Wow. . .it’s been quite a while, folks! I’ve been keeping up with the site, but I haven’t posted anything in some time. I’ve been posting more on Retry Level, so you can always look for me there. It’s been a tough balance between the two sites!
I’ve been wanting to do a new Starters Untamed for some time now. Pokémon X and Y released some of the most interesting changes to Pokémon games that we’ve seen in a very long time, so I’ve been eager to write about my thoughts and experience in the competitive play realm as they have changed drastically. With the introduction of the new fairy typing, negated resistances of the powerful steel typing, and mega evolutions have brought in so many new strategies into the mix that at first it was quite overwhelming. Because of the huge influx of new concepts brought to competitive play, there are still pieces that have yet to be fully analyzed and tested out. The analysis of this generation of starters will be purely opinionated and, as always, up for (constructive) debate.
This generation’s starters are probably the most interesting that we’ve ever seen. Each contain their complementing dual type that helps counter their opposing foe. Not only that, each starter has their own hidden ability and attacks unique to their own species (aside from Klefki). First up we have Chesnaught, the spiny armor Pokémon. This is the first time we’ve had a non-reptilian grass starter, which has received some mixed feedback (especially from its’ deceptive transition to an awkward looking final evolution). This beefy, intimidating rodent (?) is dawned with the grass/fighting typing, an interesting match up only seen in Breloom and Virizion. It’s stats cater primarily towards a physically strong Pokémon that excels in tanking and physical offense. It’s HP/ATK/DEF clock in at 88/107/122 respectively, which is nothing to take lightly. However, the remaining SpATK, SpDef, and SPD stats are relatively low, only reaching 74/75/64, which leaves Chesnaught vulnerable to the numerous special sweepers that plague competitively play. Its typing, however, acts as a double edged sword. It has plenty of resistances and types that its strong against, but it also comes with six common weaknesses, which include the new fairy typing.
What I love most about Chesnaught is its movepool. It comes with all of the best physical grass type moves like Seed Bomb and Wood Hammer, and it can also learn plenty of useful TMs like Dragon Claw, Stone Edge, Swords Dance, and Earthquake. Perhaps the most interesting thing about Chesnaught is its access to its signature move, Spiky Shield. This moves acts exactly like protect, but damages the opponent if physical contact is made. If playing a more defensive Chesnaught, this combined with Leech Seed can really throw off your opponent by maintaining health and consistent chip damage.
Overall, Chesnaught is a decent addition to the grass type starters and works well up there with the likes of Torterra as far as being a physical tank. Its typing doesn’t really do it any favors, but access to Spiky Shield and other great attacks make it a worthy addition to any team.
Next up we have Delphox, the magical fox Pokémon. Fennekin was easily the fan favorite when the starters were released. We awaited eagerly to see what its final evolution would look like, and Delphox came to us as quite a surprise. Its probably one of the most human-like Pokémon that we’ve seen, and the addition to its magical wand gives it loads of character (not to mention its cry is absolutely horrific). Unfortunately, what Delphox has in aesthetics, it lacks in its abilities as a solid Pokémon. It has the stats of a decent special sweeper, clocking in at 114/100/104 SpAtk, SpDef, and SPD respectively. Its defensive stats aren’t doing it any favors, which make Delphox quite frail if up against a strong, quick opponent. Its typing, fire/psychic, is not the greatest as it leaves it open to the common ghost and dark types, which often out-speed it. Its movepool is a bit of a mixed bag and seems to have lost its identity somewhere in its creation. Should Delphox play its role as a special sweeper? Is it more of a support attacker? It doesn’t have the speed to function well in the sweeping department, and its not defensive enough to remain a support teammate.
I’d have to say that Delphox is sadly the worst of the three starters. It doesn’t excel in any one role in competitive play, which leaves it open to plenty of counters and switch ins. It’s unfortunate as it’s such a cool Pokémon with great concepts and a great design, but it falls short in being anything offensive or anything supportive. There are simply more Pokémon out there to fill this role that can do the job much better than Delphox.
This leaves us with Greninja, the ninja Pokémon. Greninja was probably the biggest surprise for all of us; not many of us were expecting a ninja with its tongue used as a scarf. Greninja not only excels in the coolness factor, but its also a fantastic Pokémon to use. The best of the three starters, really. These are the stats that Delphox should have had; 103/122 in SpAtk and SPD, which allow Greninja to outspeed most of the standard metagame. Its attack also clocks in at 95, which make it a formidable candidate as a physical sweeper, too. Its typing, water and dark, provide far more benefits than counters, however it does leave it open to the new fairy type that plagues the battlefield. Better yet, its movepool is everything we could have hoped and dreamed for in a sweeper. Access to moves like Dark Pulse, Ice Beam, Surf, Grass Knot, U-Turn, Toxic Spikes, and Acrobatics make it difficult to see what Greninja is going to throw out at you.
What makes Greninja so amazing is not just its diverse movepool and useful typing. Its ability, Protean, is arguably one of the most useful Pokémon abilities out there. Protean changes Greninjas type to whatever move it uses. For example, using Ice Beam will change you to a pure ice type. Next, use Grass Knot to change yourself into a pure grass type. This makes Greninja essentially impossible to counter, and it also makes every single move a stab move. This ability alone makes Greninja one of the most versatile Pokémon you can use in a competitive team.
However, Greninja is far from being in the uber tiers. Thankfully, GameFreak balanced out its stats by making it extremely frail, with its HP, Def, and SpDef clocking in at a mere 72/67/71. Also, Greninja isn’t exactly the most powerful attacker out there. It can be a bit difficult for it to 1HKO opponents that are specially defensive or physically defensive, leaving Greninja open to counter measures. Tanks like Blissey and Ferrothorn can take whatever Greninja throws at them (save for attacks not specialized in their defensive stat).
What do you guys think of this generations starters? Do you have a particular favorite? Agree or disagree with my analysis? I’m curious to see how the future generations of starters will compare to this generation. We saw a ton of changes in Pokémon X and Y, most of them necessary to keep the series alive. Hopefully we’ll continue to see more positive changes in the future!

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It’s so quiet….I feel like there’s a new article and no one is saying anything about it.
We need a new article, this one has more than 5500 comments.
We’ve been higher
I’m planning a Pokemania for tomorrow or the day after.
LOUD NOISES!!!!!!!!
You just relised that the resean looker was indruduced and based off the Doctor was because Gen 4 involves Time/space and the Doctor travels through time/space.
Why not we all brainstorm a topic for an article
Oh here’s one. It says Sinnoh confirmed. Then lots of spaces below it says: Hoenners start your rage.
I feel it should be Hoenn Related
Like Hoenn’s Hot spots
an article pertaining to various Hoenn areas that players tend to go when their not catching Pokemon
Contest halls
Battle Frontier
Secret Bases
Safari Zone
Scerect bases. Refresh
upper right corner
I’ve been researching the heck out of that feed
But in this article will ask and share their favorite spots to make our Own Secret Bases
or your favorite berry growing spots to make pokeblocks, areas in the Safari zone you like to go to, and which Slot Machine was your “lucky Spot” and your favorite Battle Frontier to challenge
Dat kinda stuff
We’ll keep that in mind! Thanks for your input!
Anytime Broham
“Meet the staff”
PJM?
PJM? poke.jungle.M? whats the M for?
Magazine. The Pokejungle magazine.
Oh thats right! I forgot about that! xD
I just remembered. XD
Okay so theory time: Maybe that black mass north of Lilycove is the new location of Sky Pillar? Maybe Rayquaza is concealing it with Black Clouds and Gamefreak just put clouds on the previous location on the map so that we wouldn’t suspect that it had been moved. I don’t know why they would move it but who knows. Just speculating. Okay there’s no way that’s Sky Pillar.
I like this idea 0_0
Extremely plausible
Thank you. I’m not sure how you would get there but maybe Rayquaza flies down and swoops you up and then drops you off before flying to the top of the tower xD Or a boat haha. Or plane.
Negating the entire point of your paragraph. I love that one 😛
Haha well the more I thought about it, the less likely it seemed but I had already typed it so I thought I might as well post it xD
I’ve done it more than once, I know exactly what you mean XD
It’s a distortion in space time, making the sky pillar appear there :3
It does look like a Distortion portal to me. Idk why it would be appearing in Hoenn but it’d still be awesome 😀
Maybe you can enter the Distortion World from there. O_O jk.
sinnoh confrimed
I have come to the consign, anything longer than 3 lines posted here i might not even read.
Replace consign with conclusion
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#TooLongForMe
This was 4 lines. You read it.
Keyword i said was MIGHT
He fell into the 25%, it seems. Lucky dude.
75% chance i won’t
W
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I hope you read this
it isnt very long at all
hurrn is love & life
A haiku.
WRONG
Team Rocket
Is Blasting
Off
Again!
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why?
What if the next Pokémon game(s) box arts don’t include the legendary mascots so we will no have idea what it will be about initially? 😮
It’d be kind of refreshing if the evil team didn’t try and utilize the power of the legendary pokemon unless it’s rrrreeeaaaallllyyyy unique.
*coughdestroyallexitencecough*
Yeah….haha.
Important Team Fortress 2 reveal in 5 minutes, for any gamers with a mixed palette.
I wanna play it but my computer runs linex….
TF2 is Linux-compatible.
Really?! I was told it could not! YAY! 😀
Ugh. Dang it. I forgot. What was the name to the sinnoh route with REALLY good music? I should know this! ugh! I’m the Freakin Gentleman of Sinnoh for goodness sake’s!
Route 227.
Thank! 😀
All of them
I applad you good sir.
Route 216.
Your going to have to be more specific
was is lively
calming and soothing
tense
WE NEED SOMETHING TO GO BY!!!!!!!!!
All of the above.
THAT ANSWERS NOTHING!!!
If it answered nothing, it answered something.
Nothing is something.
The route where the volume was muted.
Die.
Rude.
good.
Both of you were rude. Now kiss.
Ok. :X
You can’t tell me what to do. I’m a grown man. You kiss him.
I already told you to do something, therefore I could tell you to do something. Will you do it or not, that is the question. And no.
You did NOT just go there.
Yes I did girl. Oh, yes I did.
The sass. Unbelievable.
(refresh)
*sigh* Here we go agian. I’ll go rally the troops…
So they can agree with him
Hey all pokemon music is good music. Don’t discriminate ;-;
Damn.
Damn.
Damn.
OMG
I’m laughing so hard XD
Ily Chico
LOL. <3
I wrote you a love post.
Your right. Its why i played through emerald with the sound muted and listening to sinnoh music on my computer.
Sound muted on my SP.
Funny how you automatically assumed I was taking a shot at Sinnoh, which I wasn’t.
Funney how’ve insulted sinnoh so many times in the past where its just natural to see that it was a shot toward sinnoh
Maybe you shouldn’t jump to conclusions babe, lol.
Funny how you always start fights about Sinnoh. Seriously dude, this isn’t gentleman behavior.
im not starting a fight.
Pretty sure you are by calling out Chico when he was making a harmless joke. Stopping here so I don’t get involved.
if he was not talking about sinnoh it would have helped if that was clearified.Since it WAS a sinnoh related comment he replyed to.
Im not trying to start a fight. Im sorry. I do have a bit of a problem with acting before thinking. im sorry.
Not funny Chico’s was the best xD
Whereabouts? In the Fight Area?
Nrmd i found it.
Um… None
If the one’s currently typing are going to insult sinnoh plaee dont. I dont want region wars agian. But i will fight back if another does insult it.
Well.
Friends left.
Now it’s time for me to do stuff.
Any suggestions?
What is this “friends”??
This word is foreign to me :3
I didn’t even know there was such word!
It’s amazing what you learn 😀
You imply I have no friends?
I don’t know the word?
Ah.
Well.
Its kinda like family.
But its not.
So you can call a bunch of Dedennes in a group friends 😀
Pokemon.
LOL
Eat.
Food is delicious.
Good idea.
Fried Dedenne tail sounds good about now.
O_o Cannibal!
:O You canible!
Is that… Dedenne cannibalism?
Not cannibalism.
Strategy.
And besides.
It was confirmed a long time ago I wasn’t really a pure Dedenne.
My mother’s a Dedenne, but my father is a Pikachu.
And my brother’s a Pachirisu.
And my sister an Emolga.
We have a seriously f***ed up family tree. XD
Your Pika father sure got around. xD
XDD
So, SS Part 1 Final went very well.
Next stop: English.
Good! I ate english. Its my worst subject.
Was it delicious?
And I can tell…
Sounds yummy.
its why i ate it. To make *twitc* semrtrrrr
Clear Body Megagross isn’t bad
Was it not clear it was good before?
Was that a pun or were u bein rude? XD
Pun.
Good 😉
i almost had 2 fite u irl 1v1
I AM LEGIT DEAD
FAVORITE CHICO MOMENT///// >>>>>
Gentleman of SinHoe:
“Ugh. Dang it. I forgot. What was the name to the sinnoh route with REALLY good music? I should know this! ugh! I’m the Freakin Gentleman of Sinnoh for goodness sake’s!”
Chico:
“The one where the volume’s muted”
>DEAD
Chico bear ily <3
Rued.
LMFAO. Thanks, but we should stop it here. xD
You made my day <3
Thankkssssss! 😉 😀
Nope, not touching that with a 39 and half foot pole
That was a really clever reference. I love the original How The Grinch Stole Christmas <3
Who doesn’t!
I can easily manipulate my larynx to a deep voice and i love to sing that song
Now you’ve got me listening to it xD
MY INFLUENCE IS SPREADING
Someone needs some Burn Heal. >___>
That was soooo funny I laughed soooo hard.
Gtfo fatty 😉
How discourteous.
Seriously though, wtf happened to the sunken ship? That’s like my biggest mystery from the new map. Sorry I keep obsessing over it. I love maps, like Bilbo
the offical Smash 4 Wii U box art has been leaked. (the other was fake) https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BqSil7qCQAAKMbH.jpg
It’s all ogre now.
Expected that from Archeops and got happy when I saw that he didn’t post it. Then i saw you posted and I was too late q.q
Shrek is love. Shrek is life. 😉
Gentleman is in my swamp 🙁
Tony the Tiger? I’m ok with that.
And is that Joffrey in the corner?
Franklin is all I need.
I heard he was the next meta Knight. ya know, banned in TOURNAMENTS
OMFG THE HAPPY MEAL BOX I AM DEAD
I really wish Banjo & Kazooie and Conker had more series
And when i say B&K and Conker i mean the good ol Rareware Charm
Microsoft isn’t even using Rare! I wish Nintendo bought 100% of Rare!
Banjo and Kazooie touched my heart as a child
Eww…
HEY
I grew up with the Bear and Bird and i’ll die with the Bear and Bird
They put conker in the project spark trailer! they’re totally using rare to it’s fullest potential!
But Banjo and Kazooie did continue…. with NUTS & BOLTS MWAHAHAHAHAHA
I could never hate Banjo and Kazooie but i will smack you if you say that ever again
Nuts & Bolts made even JonTron cry. XD
AND IIIIII WILLL ALWAYS LOVE YOU! HOW COULD YOU DO THIS TO ME?!
Have you seen JonTron’s newest video? omfg I laughed so hard at the end.
California Games! XD That was funny!
California Games 2 is like the most depressing thing ever.
Yeah. I assure you California is nothing like that.
are you sure people don’t die for no reason or use “swood” as a word?
Yes, I am sure. I live in a ghetto part of So. Cal, and nobody uses that.
Franklin! (I think that’s the turtle’s name).
I like how even though I haven’t play Sinnoh in so long, I still remember the rest of a song when I hear the first couple of notes and whistle along. 🙂
Yep, Sinnoh had a great soundtrack 😀
I constantly hum this tune
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXNKog7Tik0
and this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsW_BCoeQZA
^^^ especially this one XD
Trumpets are so easy to hum along to.
Love the frontier
Route 111 is the stuff. IDK about the Frontier Brain. Not something I want to hum too. It gets me pumped! XD
:13 in the frontier is like the start of something great
It should’ve been used in the anime ;~;
I can pretty much do that with all regions and routes. I’m good with music 😀
Anyone want to have a random battle on showdown with me now?
I do! But gimme a minute, it’s not loading right for me.
I’ll battle again!
OK!
What lobby are you in?
Lobby
What’s your name on Pokemon Showdown!
“Connection to ladder server failed with error: Error: socket hang up; please try again later”
Any idea?
Uh…. No… But normally when that happens i can still challenge you
That happened to me too.
I sense another Great Region War starting again.
If people stop mentioning it, there won’t be. Lol.
I sense u cooking me dinner
Please bro. No. I’ve already got caried away tonight.
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2013/05/tecmo_koei_hints_at_a_pokemon_conquest_sequel
me too 😮
We already knew about this. XD #2013
I know xD But that was what came into my head when he mentioned another great region war 😮
Pokemon Conquest is my favorite spin-off! Then Pokemon Ranger! ;D
I have found love
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGdifpwEnWo
Hey guys so for my slyeon what should the EV’s be? I already maxed out Sp.att what next?
HP. Then add Assault Vest.
Malamar’s returning!!!
… joking 😀
That’s not very Swood at all.
Reference to California Games, I like it.
Hey Afarr wanna join me and Chico battle
You can battle winner
Sure!
Imagine this in 3ds sounfont:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DNfeA4LEcE
This + 3d steven cutscene = love and life
Yes. 😉 This is one of my favorite champion encounters!
Reading an article on Malamar from X and Y and I just remembered Hunter J! :c She died far too young!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_JUKEQvYv8
Dead.
She was a bad lady. I happy she ded
But what about that huge lake pollution? D:
It’s ok, Poison types like Tentacool probably live there anyway
1. Engine explodes, goes underwater, explodes again… nobody deserves that! :C
She did, she was cruel ;~;
Aura Sphere Riolu
why i loved the sinnoh anime
http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/269/7/b/somnignon__fake_by_a_pinnari-d6nxfxa.png
Remember when people thought it was real?
I wish it was real q.q
I’ve never, ever seen this fakemon
Then you have never truly lived life.
Really? O________________o
Put it in Jungle Jade and save it from becoming irrelevant.
That is thievery q.q
Unless someone were to alter it, but kept the basic concepts of its design and claim it as ours…
Bingo 😮
ask for permission.