Wow. . .it’s been quite a while, folks! I’ve been keeping up with the site, but I haven’t posted anything in some time. I’ve been posting more on Retry Level, so you can always look for me there. It’s been a tough balance between the two sites!
I’ve been wanting to do a new Starters Untamed for some time now. Pokémon X and Y released some of the most interesting changes to Pokémon games that we’ve seen in a very long time, so I’ve been eager to write about my thoughts and experience in the competitive play realm as they have changed drastically. With the introduction of the new fairy typing, negated resistances of the powerful steel typing, and mega evolutions have brought in so many new strategies into the mix that at first it was quite overwhelming. Because of the huge influx of new concepts brought to competitive play, there are still pieces that have yet to be fully analyzed and tested out. The analysis of this generation of starters will be purely opinionated and, as always, up for (constructive) debate.
This generation’s starters are probably the most interesting that we’ve ever seen. Each contain their complementing dual type that helps counter their opposing foe. Not only that, each starter has their own hidden ability and attacks unique to their own species (aside from Klefki). First up we have Chesnaught, the spiny armor Pokémon. This is the first time we’ve had a non-reptilian grass starter, which has received some mixed feedback (especially from its’ deceptive transition to an awkward looking final evolution). This beefy, intimidating rodent (?) is dawned with the grass/fighting typing, an interesting match up only seen in Breloom and Virizion. It’s stats cater primarily towards a physically strong Pokémon that excels in tanking and physical offense. It’s HP/ATK/DEF clock in at 88/107/122 respectively, which is nothing to take lightly. However, the remaining SpATK, SpDef, and SPD stats are relatively low, only reaching 74/75/64, which leaves Chesnaught vulnerable to the numerous special sweepers that plague competitively play. Its typing, however, acts as a double edged sword. It has plenty of resistances and types that its strong against, but it also comes with six common weaknesses, which include the new fairy typing.
What I love most about Chesnaught is its movepool. It comes with all of the best physical grass type moves like Seed Bomb and Wood Hammer, and it can also learn plenty of useful TMs like Dragon Claw, Stone Edge, Swords Dance, and Earthquake. Perhaps the most interesting thing about Chesnaught is its access to its signature move, Spiky Shield. This moves acts exactly like protect, but damages the opponent if physical contact is made. If playing a more defensive Chesnaught, this combined with Leech Seed can really throw off your opponent by maintaining health and consistent chip damage.
Overall, Chesnaught is a decent addition to the grass type starters and works well up there with the likes of Torterra as far as being a physical tank. Its typing doesn’t really do it any favors, but access to Spiky Shield and other great attacks make it a worthy addition to any team.
Next up we have Delphox, the magical fox Pokémon. Fennekin was easily the fan favorite when the starters were released. We awaited eagerly to see what its final evolution would look like, and Delphox came to us as quite a surprise. Its probably one of the most human-like Pokémon that we’ve seen, and the addition to its magical wand gives it loads of character (not to mention its cry is absolutely horrific). Unfortunately, what Delphox has in aesthetics, it lacks in its abilities as a solid Pokémon. It has the stats of a decent special sweeper, clocking in at 114/100/104 SpAtk, SpDef, and SPD respectively. Its defensive stats aren’t doing it any favors, which make Delphox quite frail if up against a strong, quick opponent. Its typing, fire/psychic, is not the greatest as it leaves it open to the common ghost and dark types, which often out-speed it. Its movepool is a bit of a mixed bag and seems to have lost its identity somewhere in its creation. Should Delphox play its role as a special sweeper? Is it more of a support attacker? It doesn’t have the speed to function well in the sweeping department, and its not defensive enough to remain a support teammate.
I’d have to say that Delphox is sadly the worst of the three starters. It doesn’t excel in any one role in competitive play, which leaves it open to plenty of counters and switch ins. It’s unfortunate as it’s such a cool Pokémon with great concepts and a great design, but it falls short in being anything offensive or anything supportive. There are simply more Pokémon out there to fill this role that can do the job much better than Delphox.
This leaves us with Greninja, the ninja Pokémon. Greninja was probably the biggest surprise for all of us; not many of us were expecting a ninja with its tongue used as a scarf. Greninja not only excels in the coolness factor, but its also a fantastic Pokémon to use. The best of the three starters, really. These are the stats that Delphox should have had; 103/122 in SpAtk and SPD, which allow Greninja to outspeed most of the standard metagame. Its attack also clocks in at 95, which make it a formidable candidate as a physical sweeper, too. Its typing, water and dark, provide far more benefits than counters, however it does leave it open to the new fairy type that plagues the battlefield. Better yet, its movepool is everything we could have hoped and dreamed for in a sweeper. Access to moves like Dark Pulse, Ice Beam, Surf, Grass Knot, U-Turn, Toxic Spikes, and Acrobatics make it difficult to see what Greninja is going to throw out at you.
What makes Greninja so amazing is not just its diverse movepool and useful typing. Its ability, Protean, is arguably one of the most useful Pokémon abilities out there. Protean changes Greninjas type to whatever move it uses. For example, using Ice Beam will change you to a pure ice type. Next, use Grass Knot to change yourself into a pure grass type. This makes Greninja essentially impossible to counter, and it also makes every single move a stab move. This ability alone makes Greninja one of the most versatile Pokémon you can use in a competitive team.
However, Greninja is far from being in the uber tiers. Thankfully, GameFreak balanced out its stats by making it extremely frail, with its HP, Def, and SpDef clocking in at a mere 72/67/71. Also, Greninja isn’t exactly the most powerful attacker out there. It can be a bit difficult for it to 1HKO opponents that are specially defensive or physically defensive, leaving Greninja open to counter measures. Tanks like Blissey and Ferrothorn can take whatever Greninja throws at them (save for attacks not specialized in their defensive stat).
What do you guys think of this generations starters? Do you have a particular favorite? Agree or disagree with my analysis? I’m curious to see how the future generations of starters will compare to this generation. We saw a ton of changes in Pokémon X and Y, most of them necessary to keep the series alive. Hopefully we’ll continue to see more positive changes in the future!

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Person: ” Hoenn isn’t amazing”
Me: http://i.imgur.com/NSgTkAE.jpg
It looks like Brandon on May.
Hoenn.
Confirmed.
xD
Or smack them with a trumpet
Person ” I hate Hoenn”
Me: “No.”
Person after I’m done with them:
http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/074/f/d/patrick_plus_trumpet_equals____by_skimkimchi-d4sufkv.jpg
You scare me
http://bubbawheat.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/hancock-jail.jpg?w=604
two hoenn haters.
(This is from Hancock btw. The movie where will smith is a superhero)
http://i.imgur.com/xitS1md.jpg
Quadripedal final evo for Pyram. Design one :3
The plus marks on the cloud collar indicate a Positive charge.
Rings around the hooves circulate electricity and spread it through the clouds and horns.
It’s shooting electricity between horns ready to whoops some cans of hoenn haters because Pyram loves hoenn 😮
Gonna do a few more designs such one more minotaur like one and a centaur like one if possible xD
shiny ;o
wut?
cool
LOVE IT!
That looks pretty cool. However I feel it needs something unique to make it stand out….but I can’t think what…
Cutie mark
Color? xD I left it like this cause i didn’t want to overdesign it.
Lol. Possibly, I dunno. It may look better once coloured in.
I love it! Unique and cool concept too.
Thanks :3
Loving it and that second to last paragraph tho 😉
Tanks 😮
http://wikimon.net/images/thumb/f/fe/Tankmon2.jpg/200px-Tankmon2.jpg
is that a new pokemon
Yes. Tankmon is the best of the ‘mons 😮
Are those bandages?
“The plus marks on the cloud collar indicate a Positive charge.”
When ORAS releases
http://www.relationship-economy.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/gates-to-heaven.jpg
relationship wat?
wat
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=71174&stc=1&d=1395216293
xD
http://www.serebii.net/anime/pictures/houen/349/AG61.jpg lol wut
Yes
And then Europe will be there! …A week later.
Just order it online XDDD
Oh Ash, in honor of ORAS XD
http://i.imgur.com/Wgm3F09.png
“Motherfcking Sauce last name” XDDDD
LHH
Does anyone have an OC 😛
Just my D&D Personas
I want to play D&D ;o;
http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/126/c/9/fire_type_starters_pokemon_by_darknessumbreon1997-d3fqo2i.png
This is what happens to your vision when you deny Hoenn 😮
And
http://d-serious.pl/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/pikaglitch.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/TDFijW0.jpg
You need a warning nextime D:
Jigglylove 😮
*crai*
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. You should not fear it because you find it unappealing 😮
-LesTalkWithSON
xD
I think it is cool it took me by Astonish
http://www.quickmeme.com/img/bc/bc984df112bc3c4b615c03ae8695e2da09687dbde7c88e386276bf472003f872.jpg
http://walyou.com/wp-content/uploads//2012/04/Jesus-Pokemon.png
Hahaha
wat
Djja you like?
http://i.imgur.com/Qp1bDKr.jpg
why mudkip hurt May ;~;
Mudkip so cute though.
Shoulda chosen Treecko 😉
I agree.
Treecko is a water type too!
No he’s a fire type!
He is fire/water!
EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
Should’ve stuck with Mudkip
Take. That. Back. xD
You guys wanna play this new game?
READY….SET……GO!
http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2014/006/5/b/gen_memeky_by_ky_nim-d717pnl.png
Nidoking
Quagsire
Flygon
Hippowdon
Excadrill
Diggersby
Still keeping the ground type but with a twist!
Its what i do best
Arcanine, Espeon, Sceptile, Empoleon, Scrafty, Chesnaught
Charizard
Espeon
Sableye/Marshtomp
Staraptor
Chandelure
Any Kalos Pokemon
Nidoking
Tyranitar
Gardevoir
Luxray
Coffagrigus
Noivern
I didn’t think you were going to pick Noivern.
He’s the fastest dragon 😮
Excluding Mega Sceptile.
Alakazam
Kingdra
Swampert
Gallade
Hydreigon
Aegislash
Okay,
What are your top three favorite types?
Dragon
Fire
Electric
Mine are…
Water
Dark
Ground
Dark
Ghost
Idunno for the last one .-.
*whisper* Dragon
*Wispers* EA Games… Challange everything…
*whisper** It’s challenge*…
I’m your 2 fav types o3o
Ground
Fighting
Rock
Water
Dragon
Steel
Grass
Dragon
Steel
Ice. Dragon. Water.
The same as me!
I had Ice not Steel. XD
Steel ( Metagross)
Psychic (Gardevoir)
Bug ( Scizor)
http://www.pinterest.com/pin/285134220131365065/
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Just letting you all know that ash was right.
Ewwww.
So, in any Pokemon games what have you named your mewtwo(s)?
mewtwo
Mr. Hugglebug
frieza
Mewtuu
Mitmei
Jk I made random ones just now
I once named a Metapod from Red Mewtwo
xD I named a Horsea DODUO
All day everyday!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DkqMjfqqPc
http://38.media.tumblr.com/28c57aba432301addda37b46810af5c5/tumblr_n7abhcdsYx1ttlx7ao1_500.png
You know it’s true. (refresh)
http://38.media.tumblr.com/5921b388e314fb4653bac0cb6bfaab8a/tumblr_n7a6587dDp1smhnavo7_250.jpg
http://31.media.tumblr.com/a38050ba93d639605e1c0852dac9df0f/tumblr_n7a6587dDp1smhnavo3_250.png
The original Ruby and Sapphire had some weird stuff.
(refresh)
XD Adult Anime!
The first one is probably a scooby doo spoof
Parts of me want to try making a Successful MonoDragon team since so many are listing them as a fav type
Ice will just freeze that team. That’s not smart! XD Unless your talking about in-game. Not meta-game!
It was just a thought
And i already deal with ice types on a regular basis
Kingdra and Zard X dont give a monkeys about ICE
I could only use Kingdra
Charizard wouldn’t count since its not born of Dragon’s Blood
Horsea is a pure Water type…
T_T….
He means Zard only gains Dragon through mega evolution, not regular line evo.
My faries would love that
Faster Dragons, Ice-Types, and Fairies will eat the team! XD
http://www.pinterest.com/pin/329818372681524648/
Expression indeed
Got to love the sizes. It’s like GameFreak just randomly assign numbers…
GF: Ditto is like 1.3 Kilometers tall
Me: *Smack*
CHALLENGES!
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I already did that
:O I was going to go it but forgot xP
i’ve done it at least 5 times now
Sadly Kalos only has Diggs or it would be 6
You have time XD
But that means i would have to solely beat the Kalos League with Diggersby alone
No other Ground Types
There are Dugtrio in the Powerplant area
No, When Earthen does a Mono Journey he has to only use Native Ground Types
That’s the rule of Mono-Journeys (or at least my rule)
Oh okay
http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/15/78/9d/15789da74ab40a5ef43cadb9af14af14.jpg
I did that
I won’t say it oh no its to cliche I won’t say~
I didn’t, but I’d probably choose the Fire Nation.
I would do Water C:
Water Nation!
LOL NUMBER 3
Fire or Air for me :3 Why must Psychic be separated like this D:
Kingdra and Draglage on the same team 😮
http://37.media.tumblr.com/2fbd844696fbc4e52a7df6d372095654/tumblr_mvmytkmdVG1r7akouo1_1280.jpg
We still need Dragon/Normal, Dragon/Fighting, and Dragon/Bug. ;^;
Need more dragons!
a Dragon/Fighting Gargoyle
and the oh so iconic Dragonfly
I want that future Dragon/Fighting to be as buff as Mega Swampert or better, and has wings.
I just see a Gruff, Dragon Dog faced Brute with a massive upper body, rocky dark gray skin, and tiny Dragonite wings
and it would have Red Tattoo markings and maybe a earring
Dragalge doesn’t scare me
But i’m terrified of Kingdra, always have
Because of the all mighty powerful water type!
Kingdra have always been a pain in everyone’s asses since nothing but Dragons could scratch em
but now Fairy has evened this conundrum out
Fairy type does cripple it. 😛
That’s cause you haven’t met Queendra 😉
GF Board Room
‘OK, next we have Avalugg’
‘Five’
‘Two’
‘Nine Hundred and fourth five’
‘OK, so that’s 945′ 5″ and 2 lbs. Next…’
LOL
Hey guys!!!
Hai Luigi :3
Hey noivern!! Only two more tests and I am done!!! Thursday and Tuesday!!
Awesome 😀 *Been out for like two weeks*
So jealous! XD but lucky you 🙂
:/ We’re bot supposed to say his or byes without something on topic attached.
Good point but I don’t think they would ban me 🙂 and just like to greet fellow junglers
We are attached so I think we’re good cx
anyone want any leftover Tirtouga? all of them are Jolly
http://static.zerochan.net/Pok%C3%A9mon.full.1612791.jpg
*starts crying*
I can still see Blastoise being punched in the face
Favoritism at its finest.
VS 2014: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-cMxmCW7Gz4w/Uo23dNOrDlI/AAAAAAAACIY/98RxhfGyXcE/s1600/Untitled+139.jpg
@pokemaster4488:disqus
@shinyxatu:disqus and anyone else who has a Ps3. LBP 3 is coming out for the PS3 too 😮
YESYESYES *cries*
Comes out november.
*Wallet starts crying because of ORAS and LBP3 *