Shinies. The elusive differently coloured Pokémon that were so rare that most people thought they were hoaxes/glitches/hacks. Yet, with the internet becoming more and more widespread, soon everyone knew about them. With a 1 in 8000 chance of finding them, they were truly sought after by collectors who had to put considerable effort into getting them.
With people complaining they couldn’t get one, Gamefreak threw a bone and released several shiny Pokémon as events, in addition to making some slight tweaks to the chance of finding shinies. Sorry folks that had a shiny Raikou, your’s became so common that people didn’t care about your achievement anymore. Luckily there were only a few event Pokémon, leaving a majority still hard to catch (even when using the Pokéradar).
But XY changed even more than that. They made so many tweaks that, as evidenced by the comments here and on other sites, you could easily find three shinies a day. The Safari zone with hundreds of Pokémon available, a new egg breeding mechanic, horde battles, the Pokéradar is back and maybe even a tweak to the base chance itself! This brings my to my concern of today: is there still a point in shinies?
The major thing about shinies was not that they were differently coloured. In fact, you could say that over half of all Pokémon looks worse or almost not different at all in their shiny form. No, the thing that made them cool was the rarity of finding one, the thrill of encountering and successfully catching it. It shouldn’t be only about its looks, but also on the memory that is attached to it. But with XY the rarity is gone. People will stop caring about your feat. “Oh, you got 30 shinies? I got 60, hmpf.” The whole elusive aspect went away, and that makes shinies not that exciting for me anymore as they once were.
But that’s just me of course. What do you think? I’d love to hear your opinion in the comments, and when I got the time I will try to respond to them. Seeing as this is a discussion post, keep spam to a bare minimum. If you got something interesting to say, say it, but don’t start 200 comments threads about one battle you had, use the chat.
~Daedardus~










hey ShinyNoivern what are the polls for the Prof. Names
My friends don’t believe me
Waaiit
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Sweet mother of pokemon that is one beautiful avatar its perfect thank you so much Jordin I love it 🙂 you are awesome thank you thank you thank you xD I’m gonna annoy you with all of this lol seriously I cant get over your talent my friend
Aww, thank you 🙂 You’re most definitely welcome!
Your welcome 😀 you deserve to be praised XD I’m very happy thank you for taking the time in making me another 🙂 these are perfect couldn’t have found better
updated professor design :3
http://i.imgur.com/UxCA1Wo.png
@disqus_0yhh9bkWFP:disqus did you saw my drawing? sorry if i confuse you
Yeah i saw, nice typings. The evo reminds me of Earthen xD
why lol
http://earthenwarrior.imgur.com/all/
The hat and beard.lol
lmfao at least the turkey beard is made from FIRE
True xD
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damn i’m losing!
Actually not, someone spammed the votes for Patrice.
woohoo! my awesome name is winning!
Yes. Yes it is.
booyah
your awesome name is tacoburritochimmychonga?
Who else would come up with a name like that!
i will call her tabuchiga for short better lol
I still haven’t find shinies on the Safari.
The only way for me to get some is fishing XD
I haven’t found any by either of those methods :/
dont give up i found a shiny with a chain of 6 and 3:)
It tooks my 2 hours to get a shiny Magikarp.
Well, I guess there’s still a high random factor, and some people doesn’t have chance XD
To answer the question; no.
In fact, I still think shinies are far too rare. They really don’t HAVE a purpose. They are not that special besides being bragging rights, which isn’t always a positive thing.
I suppose this is because I see shinies are just alternate colored Pokemon. If anything, it’s a cool change, not so much OMGIHAVEASHINY. There are many Pokemon where I like the shiny coloration better than the regular, and vice versa.
Basically, I guess for people who value shinies as ‘rare bragging rights’, perhaps the value has gone down a little, but getting a shiny is still ridiculously tedious. Even with X an Y cutting the value by half, the probability is still below 1% WITH Masuda Method, which is absurd.
If the actual targeted market of Pokemon is the focus (the children) then yeah, it’s a different story because the little kids have a lot more time on their hands. The actual buyers market of Pokemon, the college student, typically have a lot of other responsibilities that don’t allow time for grinding for a different colored pixel monster that can take months and months due to the low probability.
They have no problem obliterating the meta game, why they are so stingy about color palettes is beyond me.
Still below 1% with the Masuda Method T_T
They could make it 15% and I still wouldn’t find one. xD
Video games now are suppose to encourage achievement. Shinies are just luck. FAILURE OF THE GAME DESIGNER.
finding shinies in consecutive fishing its like a achievement IMO
Because you have a sort of control over it. Same with the radar, if it wasn’t so frustrating and still pretty randomized.
Actually not a failure because strong pokemon are much more desirable than shiny pokemon.
depends on the eyes of the player people who plays a pasive game would say is viceversa
Not everyone is a competitive player.
In my opinion
Damn RNG =/ I’ve hatched around 1,000 eggs. 2 Shiny Chespins, one with Overgrow and the other with Bulletproof. I need to find one more with Bulletproof T_T
Would be interesting if the tipping trick actually turns out to be true. Then players could have some actual control of the shiny rate.
I’ve tipped just about everyone (except the beginning of the game), even doing the restaurants all perfect and unlocking being able to tip $10,000.
Hard to tell if it actually helps though. =( Because could just be coincidence.
i dont think tips helps i found a shiny in a chain of 3 and 6 and i only have tiped twice or thrice
Not tipping doesn’t do anything negative to you. It means you just got lucky. That doesn’t prove anything.
In the end, it’s still a RNG =/
That’s why shinies are cool, they’re bagging rights
In the world of not 12, rarities you obviously had to waste far too much time on are not qualified bragging rights.
i found a new method of consecutive fishing, if the chain passes above 10 give up and begin again surprisely it worked for me
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And sorry everyone that maybe did want one but I can’t make anymore because this is causing spam :
I AM HERE! 😀 TIME TO LOOK! 😀
I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!! 😀
THANKS! 😀
You’re welcome 🙂
So Skiddo I see you rockin a wicked new avatar ^.^
I DID! 😀 AND YOU DID TOO! 😀
xD we have beautiful avatars if I do say and there are others with amazing pics as well 😀
I must agree with that statement! 😀
Tis the season n.n
To be Jolly natured! 😀
flalala lol XD
Looks pretty cool, I was fooling with my avatar to give Rhyperior a Santa hat and beard
Just need the ears for my avatar ^-^
The problem is the purpose of shinies was wrong. Them being things that are so far beyond control that you have to give them huge amounts of value is wrong.
They should be just opportunities to have something different. I miss Gen1 Stadium. Each of the 150 Pokemon had a variety of color pallets depending on the nickname they had. I remember trading my Pokemon back and forth changing its nickname to see the variety of colors and then picking a nickname that gave me something I liked.
I completely agree with you. I loved how nicknaming pokemon in gen1 and 2 made them have different colors in Stadium/Stadium2 depending on the nickname!
Really!? I never nicknamed any of my pokemon in gen 1 or 2 so I never noticed.
I didn’t either until I finally noticing it. Then I started nicknaming to see what they would look like in Stadium 2. I remember that I had a dark green Scyther. Stadium 2, was basically my battle frontier before RS/Crystal came out. The amount of hours I put into that game…ah good times xD. I learned about competitive battling from Stadium 2, and loved it ever since.
Can we battle later? I need to check the Speed IVs on this Shiny Chespin from last night. Omg, what if this thing is just about perfect? Omg! It could also end up like my Shiny Flygon with basically no Speed IVs xD
Use battle institute. Save before hand, enter with chespin…auto levels to 50, plug in stats to damage calculator and viola, IVs figured out.
I’ll do that!
Ok, Shiny Chespin’s speed at Lv 50 is 57. Time to check.
It could be off by 1~2 IVs
……………………….
It…it has 30 IVs in Speed….to go along with perfect HP, Attack, Defense, and Special Defense….I want to cry.
WOW!!!!!! 😀 But is that the one with bulletproof?
Yes.
Oh my! Please, Please have that on your team xD
I can’t T_T I told Jordin I would give this to him for his Birthday, and I need to stick by that! I realize now what happened last night was probably the luckiest night for me in Pokemon. I bred practically a legit, PERFECT SHINY POKEMON, something I’ll most likely never do again.
Of course! 😀 It doesn’t ever get better than this!!! Btw what were your parents IVs? Is one of them japanese?
The male Chespin is the perfect one you traded me, the Japanese Ditto only has perfect HP.
And you got a shiny flawless one out of that????? WOW!!! Do you realize that your chances are like lower than 1/5000 for achieving that!!!! CONGRATZ!!!
I want to cry now :'( That’ll never happen again to me.
I want to cry because I couldn’t even get a flawless froakie after 1000+ eggs having 5 IVs max for both parents. *Sigh*
At least I have Arcanine as my only fully flawless pokemon.
And none of those Froakie’s were Shiny lol (I know it wasn’t Masuda Method). Took me nearly 1,000 eggs to breed that Chespin last night…
Perfect…Shiny…Chespin…*cries*
Screw Shiny, I couldn’t even get one with sp.def higher than 25. But what I usually say is If I don’t find perfection/shiny, then that pokemon is not in my destiny. So that makes Cleffa and Arcanine. And Chespin for you ^_^
Selfish thoughts are coming into my head now…I’m a terrible terrible person.
Meh…I’ve already accepted that about myself xD
I wanna keep this so much and treasure it forever, a perfect Shiny Pokemon of my favorite!!! But I can’t!
You know….Jordin did give you an option, to pick which one you want to give him. I’m sure he will understand! xD
I gave him the option, he chose this Bulletproof one. I don’t know how to approach this T_T Do you think if I found another Bulletproof Shiny Chespin, he’d accept that? Ugh, I feel terrible -_- I told him I’d give him this, the whole meaning of this Shiny search was as a gift for him 🙁
Just get another one. I don’t think he’d even tell the difference, or care since you are already doing him a huge favor.
This.
Yeah agree with TalesOtaku21, get another one….but take a break once in a while….xD
Of course I will 🙂
*couldn’t
I don’t see why they even have to be rare, they are literally just palette swaps. :/
Exactly. I wish they would drop the concept of rare shinies, and create a handful more of pallet swaps for all Pokemon, and either let them be random in wild, or make a place in game you can go to get them changed.
I want a customized avatar lol of my old one
Actually just put a Christmas hat on this new one if be really happy
Where are you guys getting these customized avatars???
Jordinite. Or…yourself, use Photoshop.
I’ll ask Jordinite lol I’m too lazy
Everyone changed their avatars and i’m confused
Everyone used Confuse Ray/Swagger/Flatter. Pokemaniacmy is now confused!
I’ll use Flatter.
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hi
…hi
Introduce yourself ScroogeOff! Sorry Pokemaniacmy, he’s new here 😉
He’s just meh. He’s no Ithsme or anything
in a few days he commented 7090 times?
Sure…
He’s a spammer, like I said he’s just meh.
JORDINITE CAN I HAVE A NEW AVATAR
I kinda said I won’t be doing anymore for today sorry! : It was causing spam and Dae’s not going to be happy.
Okie dokie
New Avatar :3 Feels good.
congrats
Thanks. Took like half an hour to make but i forgot to add the ball at the top of the hat D:
I’m trying to decide my Christmas Avatar
Santa Rhyperior
Santa Mamoswine
or Christmas Tree Torterra
Torterra.
my new avatar would be a santa honchkrow cause who doesnt like a mafioso santa
I wonder what the moderators would think when they see everyone with a Christmas (or Holiday) avatar. XD
I think Dae will be jealous of yours xD
He will be Jellybelly that it’s shiny XD
It’s not even Thanksgiving yet.
Yeah well… I got nothing.
Oh wait, time zones 😛
…Awkward silence…
ohaidere
well that was an…interesting battle XD
I see what you did with your name…
MARGGHH
How bout that Black Friday >D C’mon kids let’s go shopping!
yeah and kill everyone that’s in our way cause materialism 😀
http://blackfridaydeathcount.com/
wtf, this is why I don’t like black friday, we make death counters of it
It’s actually made to get people to STFU about deaths around Black Friday because it’s actually incredibly rare.
still, seeing those photos of shoppers rampaging over each other, it just makes me sick to my stomach
Would you like to battle?
sho’
Double Battle? Okay then, wait one second 😛
okey doke
Ready!
JEASUS
Screw Sp. Defense ivs! They’re still outstanding! Time to level up Pinsess!
They are really important believe it or not. Special Defense not being perfect could mean the difference between a KO or it taking the hit and KO the opposing Pokemon. 😛
True… But they refuse to take Sp. Defense!
Try breeding with a Ditto or a Pokemon in the same Egg Group that has Special Defense IVs and make sure they don’t have an IV in a stat you don’t need. (e.g. Alakazam doesn’t need Attack IVs)
It’s been makin babies with a Scyther named JesusSaves that I got over Wonder Trade. Ironically it has perfect Sp. Defense IVs.
Archeops just shouted out Bullpoo on PSS XD what have we done Chandelure?
I overreact on purpose, don’t worry XD
ok then .3.
I said “Love ya!” XD
lol back atcha
Lol I said nice
Floop him.
I love how I overreact to everything.
Uncle Scrooge!
I don’t think that’s a prideful trait.
On purpose 😀
That redeems a little.
I only do if for the lolz
Welcome to PokéJungle! Enjoy yourself! If you see NoArcheops tell him he’s crazy and then disappear for me!
I shall now post both of the Multi battles between me, @ScroogeOff:disqus, @542f8a265a4fded4a9b5073943208eac:disqus, and Luigi!
First one, me and Luigi vs. ScroogeOff and Fairly Psychic!
CA3W-WWWW-WWW3-BK6L
Second one, me and Fairly Psychic vs. ScroogeOff and Luigi!
KY8G-WWWW-WWW3-BK73
Fell free to watch both! 😀
or don’t
No, please do! XD
You people are so random on PSS.
I’m crazy, you’re crazy, we’re all crazy
I just see random shoutouts on the bottom screen and I laugh hysterically
Mainly me.
I’M A GOOFY GOOBER YEAH, YOU’RE A GOOFY GOOBER YEAH, WE’RE ALL GOOFY GOOBERS YEAH, GOOFY GOOFY GOOBER GOOBERS YEAH!
no
Yes
Ok…
wat