Dae asks: Babies

Sorry, no Mega Pokémon allowed today. I’ll keep that for when the games are actually out and all Mega Pokémon are fully revealed. No point in discussing them now, when we don’t know everything about them. Also, apologies for the server issues. We were under extremely heavy load which forced the host to shut down the site temporarily. The issue should be resolved for now. We’re also looking to upgrade the servers very soon.

As usual, we’re taking a step back from all the XY stuff and we focus on lesser discussed topics. Today is all about Baby Pokémon. Instead of evolving fully grown Pokémon, Gold and Silver introduced pre-evolutions for older Pokémon. Later generations each brought a new wave of baby Pokémon. They look way cuter and smaller than their mommy and daddy but are also less powerful. What is your take on them? Do you like the concept? Or do you think they are a waste of time and effort for Gamefreak, seeing as they take up Pokémon slots, when they aren’t actually useful at all. What’s your favorite baby Pokémon? And which older Pokémon do you think deserves a Baby?

We’ll be back tomorrow with our take on Mega Pokémon tomorrow. In the mean time, go comment on this post, or check out our other articles!

~Dae~

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158 thoughts on “Dae asks: Babies”

  1. Elekid was my favorite! I enjoyed evolving it into a Electabuzz then into a Electivire! I don’t think baby Pokemon were a waste! I really loved seeing Pokemon in there baby stage!

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  2. In my opinion baby pokemon are good because they complete the evolution cycle of a line. I think them as more design/concept based feature than being useful in gameplay although they have some moves.

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    • As I said above, Nintendo won’t ever do a Kangaskhan pre-evolution. If they use the baby design that is on Kangaskhan’s pouch, fans will complain for them being uncreative, and if they use a new design fans will complain for insulting the original design.

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      • I don’t agree.. nothing you said has even crossed mine or anyone else’s mind.. You are presenting it as fact with weak “evidence”. . . ( -_-)
        Besides a comment where someone suggested it got a good amount of likes..

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          • It just sounds like a petty complaint.. the ones GF ignores and true fans don’t care about… Just the people who love to complain about every Pokémon would well.. complain, and they already get ignored so I just don’t see those as valid points.. it may not happen but I doubt for those reasons

  3. I care little for baby Pokémon – but I feel Skarmory should get one.
    It’s known that Skarmory is very territorial, something many animals tend to be. However, they almost always are because they need to raise protect their young. If Skarmory would get a prevo, it’s territorial drift would be explained – as of now, it’s just a random trait slapped onto the design..

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  4. I like the Baby Pokemon. They help make the Pokemon World more sensible, whilst not making much sense. If I see a tough looking Pokemon come out of an egg, it doesn’t make sense, much like a gigantic Pokemon hatching from an egg that is so tiny. In a way, I see it reflect the real world, it shows how much creatures grow and become mighty (Or not so mighty.) I can see why people don’t like them, because of power and the question of, “Which came first?” but I think of Pokemon the same way as I did when I was little, and I will always stand by it.

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  5. I’d love a baby Smeargle, Lapras, Lickitung, Audino or Meowth, personally. Not particularly useful but man I love their designs…

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  6. My favourite is Munchlax. I think they are useful because they have helped to complete a lot of lines. However I prefer to capture them in the wild because hatching takes a lot of time.

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    • I like hatching them. Getting them to have the right Egg Moves, ability, gender, plus they’re so cute… in the end it gives me a sense of accomplishment and it’s all worth the wait.

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        • Well then I’m like you, all I do in is fill in the Pokédex and try to beat the game. I’ve never done a Pokémon tournament or anything of the sorts. When I plan my teams, I plan gender, ability, and moves, as part of my game strategy against my own Pokémon’s weaknesses and against rivals, gym leaders, the elite 4, and champion. But the Pokémon I choose are ones I like a lot.

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  7. It would be nice if, as some people mentioned, Pokémon were stronger (or otherwise rewarded) if you raise them from Stage 1. Would make it feel worth while maybe? More of a bond.

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    • You have a good idea. Maybe 5% Increased stats on your Pokemon as a reward for raising it from Lv. 1 to Lv. 100! Your idea could be optimized quite well! ;D

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    • Are you saying if you raise a pokemon from its baby stage it has an advantage over a pokemon that was caught in its second or last stage? If so that is Exactly what I think… they should make it make more sense Power wise…I don’t see why anyone would complain, unless they are too lazy to train a Pokémon to evolve….

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  8. I always liked baby Pokemon because they always made breeding seem a lot more realistic, (as opposed to hatching a pokemon like kangaskhan). There should be more perks to raising a pokemon from a baby pokemon. Also my favorite is probably. Tyrogue for its versatile evolution and design.

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  9. Guys, this is a bit off topic, but it’s still dealing with first stage Pokemon, so I think it’ll be fine, but, I think I may know why another reason they could be promoting Mega Blaziken, and thus giving us a special Torchic right off the bat. Think about what type Blaziken is. Fire/Fighting. And then, we have our Gen VI starter, Fennekin, whom rumors state should be Fire/Psychic, had that random punch move, which we still don’t have a clue what it is, and EVERYONE DESPERATELY not wanting it to be Fire/Fighting.

    So, I think that’s it. They are giving us a Fire/Fighting starter in torchic to let us know that our regular fire type starter won’t be! And giving us a Fire/Fighting starter in the event that we miss it so much, here is one for old time’s sake. Because seriously. WHY WOULD THEY GIVE US TWO FIRE/FIGHTING STARTERS ESSENTIALLY RIGHT WHEN YOU START THE GAME. *this is my theory, and I’m sticking to it*

    Edit: And, to finish, if Fennekin WERE to be Fire/Fighting, then this would be the single largest TROLL MOMENT EVER to fans. Because Double Fire/Fighting.

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      • Like, the way I think I should’ve phrased it is that “They are letting us know they aren’t giving us a Fire/Fighting Starter by GIVING us a Fire/Fighting starter!” I just… Gamefreak literally cannot make Fennekin a Fire/Fighting starter and also be giving us the original Fire/Fighting starter at the same time, and not expect everyone’s heads to explode.

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    • To be honest, while I wasn’t a fan of Emboar or Infernape much, I don’t understand why everyone is so upset about the fire/fighting starter. Fighting is a very useful type, and fire tends to be quite powerful and burn is always a plus. I get there were three in a row but I feel like everyone is kind of…over exaggerating a bit.

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      • No, I agree with that sentiment. Fire/Fighting IS a good type. It’s just annoying. Same way that they can’t seem to make basic bird Pokemon anything but Normal/Flying, when there have been some that could have been Fighting/Flying, such as Staraptor and Braviary. One reason why, despite if Fire/Flying is a poor type, I like TalonFlame *oops* for being the basic bird yet doing something new. I mean, all the types combinations they can do, and they can’t think of a something else? While I find the pure types to be a bit annoying too, this also goes with when the other starters have been different, though pure grass was repeated, though not twice in a row. But otherwise, the Water/Ground Swampert and the unique Water/Steel Empoleon, the Grass/Ground Torterra being a new type combination. It’s just time for something different.

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  10. In the sense of making pokemon breeding more sensible, they’re good. Otherwise most of them are useless. I mean really? Who is going to breed pokemon, get a cleffa, budew, or pichu and EV train it to be fully evolved? Too much work. Fortunately for most pokemon it’s alternative and can only be done under certain measures. However: I do use a Munchlax (or have one just for the sake of it) because its cute, and probably my favorite. (My first caught shiny was a budew in Diamond, which I transferred to SoulSilver, as I did with my Groudon, but I haven’t seen either since >-<)

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    • Only thing is, if you want to train and breed for a good Pikachu/Raichu, or Clefairy, or whatever, you HAVE to get Cleffa and Pichu. Same with, and especially Togepi, as Togekiss is actually a very nice Pokemon. Because, unlike Budew, which you can skip by not having the breeding incense, breeding Pikachu, or Clefairy, or Togetic/Togekiss, they HAVE to go through the baby forms.

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      • I find them to be hard to train without the exp share, not that they’re normally seen competitively (Clefable and Raichu). I went through I don’t know how many pichus trying to get the right one, and when I did, it took forever. But I do understand with the likes of Togepi, it’s more of a first stage in my opinion, I just wish all of them were just optional. They’re fun to get to complete the dex, but the stats are terrible for most.

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  11. Like most of the people have already mentioned, I like the prevolutions for the simple fact of not having an adult Pokémon in a low level or when hatching a egg, it looks weird… Like Kangaskhan, it hatches as a big Pokémon already with a kid, they could just make the kid a new pokémon (hopefully they will, since they had to make the 3D “sprite” of the kid for mega Kangaskhan…). Not all families need baby Pokémon and they don’t all have to be “baby” Pokémon in that sense of the word. Like the starter Pokémon, their first stage is acceptable for a first stage, however they’re not that “baby-looking”… You got the point, right? They don’t have to make all the prevolutions look so “baby-like”, they can just make smaller and simpler versions of some Pokémon… In another note, I also hope that they still make normal evolutions for older Pokémon, despite this new “mega” system, but I’m not that confident about that, since Mawile and Absol got mega evolutions instead of normal ones… Ok, I get that three-staged families can’t evolve more by Pokémon’s normal standards therefore needing this new system to be enhanced (design-wise and stats-wise), but did they have to turn perfect candidates for new evolutions into mega Pokémon as well?

    Sorry for this off-topic bit, but regarding the current poll, I can’t vote! 😡 I don’t hate the mega evolutions themselves, I just hate the concept of mega evolution, but like some of the designs! I mean, Ampharos’ sucks and I prefer normal Lucario than the mega evolved one, but Mawile’s mega evolution is simply epic! It makes me angry that it isn’t a normal evolution! Blaziken’s is also very cool! I kind of hate Blaziken, it’s my all-time least favourite starter (don’t judge me, please! we can’t all like the same things! :D) and they made it look a lot cooler and make me not hate it anymore. As for Mewtwo’s, I have the same opinion as I did for Lucario. Absol’s could also be a normal evolution, instead of a mega one and could be more inovative (if it were to normally evolve, for a mega evolution it’s awesome the way it is). I still don’t see the point of creating these mega evolutions, they could’ve just added Mawile and Absol’s as normal ones and make formes for the remaining Pokémon that they thought needed some new twists. Also, don’t forget that Sableye is probaby “just” getting a mega evolution, instead of a normal one like it was rumoured, not sure about Stantler’s situation though, but Sableye’s “counterpartery” with Mawile dictates it’s probably getting a mega evolution as well. Shoot, forgot to talk about Kangaskhan’s… I got the point and all, but they could’ve just added a few design twists as well, to reinforce the “mega” state.

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    • I think the reason why they are being classified as Evolutions instead of forme changes is because these Pokemon are being said to have their stats boosted. A forme change doesn’t boost stats, it rearranges them for different purposes, with very few exceptions, and those exceptions come from combining Pokemon with an item, or a very specific ability *Kyurem, Rotom, and Darmantian* On the other hand, Mega Evolutions seem to be working on the basis they ARE stronger than the regular state, likely a significant amount so, and that is more evolution territory. And, this is just speculation, but I bet the idea behind their purpose in battle is to help shift the momentum of a fight, especially as it’s being suggested we can only have one. It’s a trump card, and if it turns out they only evolve when they are the final Pokemon in the party, then kind they are also a last ditch effort and boost to try and help turn the battle around. But, at this point, we just don’t KNOW anything. Just that stats will be boosted, elements added or changed, abilities changed, and they at least have to hold an item. At this point, we just need to see what Gamefreak’s full official explanation for them are.

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      • Thank you! That was very enlighting in a way… But I have to reiterate that “ok, mega evolutions are KIND OF acceptable in three-staged families then and if it is as you say, I kind of don’t dislike them as much (still not a fan, still not liking them, but you made them look “less bad” for me), but I still don’t get the point of mega evolving perfect candidates for normal evolutions… C’mon, Mawile’s mega evolution is really really awesome and I didn’t like Mawile that much, but now I love it (the mega one, obviously)! I bet Sableye’s is also gonna be awesome… Mega Absol with a few twitches would also be a great normal evoltution, so what gives?

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        • *shrugs* I really don’t know. I mean, I guess I’m mostly fine with it is because I wanted them to do something with Absol finally, and they are, so I’m not going to complain. I guess I’m kind of happily taking certainty to the possibility it would never get a traditional evolution officially. But, it is something I probably would have liked an evolution for, definitely. But, it’s out of our hands, so I try not to worry about it. Just, at Absol’s base power level, I know I can speculate on if it could get a Pre-evo at about the 300 BST level or so, so at the least I can keep myself busy with that.

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        • this 🙁 poor mawile no real evolution, and apparently dunsparce and bannette get megas too. WTF???

          this proves we can no longer predict anything with pokemon. it wont shock me if we get triple types in gen 7

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        • Up voting everything is spamming just as much as down voting is. The votes allow you to agree/disagree and like/dislike what people say. They aren’t there for a likes war. You up voting everything is just feeding the troll. If we ignore the troll, they’ll stop.

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          • If you upvote something, you can’t downvote that same thing. So we know it’s not you if you upvote everything.
            But like it matters. They are just some imaginary numbers that serve no purpose all together. Receiving one tiny downvote doesn’t change a thing at all about your opinion. It stays as legit as ever, no matter how many votes you have.

  12. I hate baby pokemon because I just think they are a waste. I like the concept but they just suck. Especially the ones that have to evolve with love. If I choose to have a pikachu, I am going to get a pikachu, not start out with a pichu and evolve it into one. I like some babies, like elekid and magby, because they can actually be decent but ones like pichu or budew, no thank you.

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  13. I like baby pokemon because they allow their evolutions access to new moves that they normally couldn’t learn.

    I also love their adorableness! :3

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    • Also, in BW2 GF used babies to allow access early on to Pokemon that are usually mid to late game without the baby form- Elekid, Magby, and Riolu(if it can even be counted). This is THE only benefit I can see for baby Pokemon.

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  14. I love baby pokemon there so cute & I don’t feel there useless They give your old pokemon new moves they can’t learn naturally My favorite is Pichu without Pichu Pikachu wouldn’t have Volt Tackle. Yea there a bit on the frail side but there not weak I’ve used a Pichu before w/out evolving it held up pretty darn well it has actually saved me many battles I cannot wait to see what baby Pokemon they introduce in 6th gen I’ll probably love them all~!♥ (^w^)

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  15. To me baby Pokemon were cool and all when I was younger but now they seem like a waste being weak and all. Yes Pokemon that are breeded and raised from the ground have more benefits than wild Pokemon but l really don’t have time to do that.

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    • Seems like a normal human cycle to me.
      When 8 years old: I want to be 13, those are really cool kids
      When 13: F yeah! I’m 13, I can do whatever I want!
      When 20: Ugh, I hate 13 year olds
      When 50: I hate kids

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  16. I agree that baby pokemon are weak compared to other pokemon but i think it’s a little unfair to call them “useless” based on the fact that they do not contribute to competitive battling Yes, competitive battling is a huge part of pokemon but it’s not all about competitive battling. Some (like me) love pokemon simply because of the world and the story we get to explore. I like to battle but it’s not the only thing i care about when choosing and raising my pokemon. I believe baby pokemon were not meant to be used in competitive battling anyway. I see it as a way to make the Pokemon World more natural and “realistic.” I think raising a pokemon from its baby stage actually creates a stronger bond. 🙂 I also enjoy watching the pre-evos and see what creative things GF comes up with!

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  17. Now I can accept MEGA evolution, but I think it can become Mawile MEGA Mawile completely normal evolution, this way, Mawile probably not normal evolution, I feel a little disappointed because MEGA Mawile is not an entirely new Pokemon. GameFreak you want to limit the total number of Pokemon? : P

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