A Spanish site has posted an interview with GameFreak in which they have declared Pokemon Black and White to be the last games in this iteration. Of course this declaration does not impact whether or not we get AquaSapphire and MagmaRuby, but unfortunately this looks like a no-go for Pokemon Grey (or Gray? Or why debate the spelling of a fan-guessed title for a game we now speculate may never exist?). I have my own doubts as to whether anything got lost in translation between Japanese, Spanish, and English, but this is definitely interesting news. Would definitely be ground breaking for the series not to cash in on a 3rd version.
As Serebii and I were discussing though, there is the fact that an interview with GameFreak (in Japan) had said that a third game would go deeper into N’s history and reveal his name. Tackman also points out that there are items and attacks that would seem to coordinate with the third legendary, Kyurem, that are not seen in Black or White. Is this rumor busted? Probably. But it’ll be interesting to see how it plays out.
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Wow i would really hate it if they didnt have a 3rd game, we have been doin this since the 90s, i know they trying to change some stuff but seriously .________.
Edit: The opening to Pokemon: BW really sucked, they skipped through all of the cool parts of the opening and even shaded in all of the pokemon’s colors, bull crap, but im glad they r bringing back the good ole “Whos That Pokemon”
Yeah that intro part kinda pissed me off but everything else about the episode was pretty good.
im glad too, but the pronounced pidove pee-…dove no joke.
In the game, you get a Light Stone in Black for Reshiram, and a Dark Stone in White for Zekrom. There is a third stone that is coded in the game but is inaccessible, the God Stone, its sprite is of grey colour. There are also two Ice-type moves that no pokémon can learn, one is Special and can burn (like Reshiram), and one is Physical and can paralyze (like Zekrom) Clearly they are moves for Kyurem. And there’s also the underwater ruins, and all this stuff about Team Plasma that clearly point at a third game (I made a first article about those mysteries months ago, but PJ hasn’t answered the three e-mails I send him…) So yeah, there will be a third game.
Yeah, I don’t believe this either. Maybe they will do something nontraditional with the third game and make it a sequel to the plot rather than another version of the same plot. Who knows at this point.
Agreed. I thought the same thing.
Whoops 😡
There It is 🙂
Exactly what I’ve been pointing out since September too XD
There is no way this would be true, since one can notice that stuff was intentionally left out or feels incomplete in BW, for the sole purpose of putting it into the third game.
Maybe not a third game….but a whole new story that can be downloaded! It’s kinda been done before. With the event pokemon you get a story. Even though it’s short, they can definately make a longer one for this. And think about it. The b/w game hinted to a SEQUEL. I don’t wanna say what happens but a pokemon sequel game would be hard because you would lose your pokemon when switching games. So I think a god stone download would create a new story for b/w.
What you wrote doesn’t make much sense, but if you are saying they could add stuff to BW via wifi-downloads, this won’t happen. They can’t add data that’s not in the game. They can only unlock what’s already on the cart, because DS games are ROMs, which means read-only-memory.
Then what happens when people cant go out and download this features, it would be a waste of a game.
Think about this.
Well when you bring up that the games have ROM based set-ups, you need to understand that there are “hidden” functions in the games. They program some parts of the game to only work when, a.You have a specific pokémon, b.You have a specific item, or c.When a flag is set, prompting it to work. It’s because of this that stuff like Team Plasma’s liberation speech only happens once. It’s also because of this, that you can walk past a point and nothing may happen, but you can walk past the same point again with a new item and be greeted by someone, or be taken somewhere new. i.e., The Old Sea Map in Emerald gave access to Mew on Faraway Island. It was a download that added to the storyline, but Faraway Island wasn’t “new”, it was just inaccessible until you had this item. So they can distribute the God Stone via wi-fi and have an add-on to the storyline, but I do doubt they could have a new forme of Kyurem either way because if so hackers who cheated to finish the pokédex would have seen it already, because as you said, it is Read-only-memory. I think the god stone is either incorporated in Gray, or a way to obtain the other dragon in ur game, ex. getting reshiram in white or zekrom in black
There are so many new things people would like to see added to this gen’s games (rematches, animated trainer sprites, etc.) I somehow doubt there won’t be a third version.
Why would Game Freak hesitate to get money?
Off topic once again but…team rockets motto was AWESOME! They got it almost exactly like the japan version.
I wanna watch it online 😐
no, trust me, you don’t.
Inb4 “OMG PJN is so bad for posting unconfirmd rumors. Serebii much better lolz, thiz site suckz”
I agree with Tacky and Ttaur, at least I hope they are both right.
Are you mad at me? 🙁 I’ll get to your article soon.
Oh no, I’m not mad. I know you’re really busy, but forget what I said. I had two roughs weeks and was not in a good mood. it’s not your fault.
You said something like “so we’re not mad at each other” and I was like ‘uh-oh’. I just have issues with procrastination. Ask tackman ;-; He submitted an article at the end of Dec and I still haven’t gotten back to him. But I WILL. Before this weekend is over. Get back to both of you.
Oh, sorry. Now I see you’re different (in a good way) than most people I’ve dealt with. Most of them are just d-bags that ignore you to the fullest. But luckily, you’re not. My apologies
No I’m still a terrible person xD Just the unintentional kind.
We have to get a new Kyurem form, because seems like it’s weak and roughed up or it lost its strenght.
Yep. And it’s secret signature attacks hint even more towards a relation to Zekrom/Reshiram.
*BW story SPOILER below*
I’m confident we will see something along the lines of this in the third:
When the original royal dragon split into Zekrom and Reshiram, because of the fight between Unova’s 2 kings. After this process, there was something left behind of the original one dragon: Kyurem.
So somehow Kyurem will get it’s powers of flame and lightning back and become the original full-power royal dragon of Unova. I wonder how that will work without destroying Reshiram and Zekrom though.
Well Kyurem represents Wuju, the absense of Yin and Yang so its likely they do get destroyed.
they don’t have to be destroyed necessarily , maybe Kyurem consumes/absorbs them along with their powers
you know what that means? black + white = grey. Reshiram + Zecrom+ Royal Dragon. I think a 4th (OMG) game, or sequel anime / game would revolve around the royal dragon. And, http://www.pokemonamethyst.com
http://www.pokemonopal.com
they both work, and, for all of you saying OPAL WAS PLATINUM, I agree, but think: Royal, mixture of colors, it just works.
the link just goes to nintendo.com.
FIX IT NOW.
theyre supposed to go to nintendo, rite?
it means they are pending names or sumtin, rite?
@three monkeys: You are correct, sir! The sites automatically redirect to Nintendo because they have been copyrighted. 3
To be fair, there’s no need for a 3rd game. Why? Everything could be handled thru’ events and movies.
However, because logically it would not make sense, since Gamefreak wubs their money and every single new gen had three games, there probably will be one. I’ll just won’t wait for it, because I lack the patience to wait years for it. 😛
A new form for Kyurem where it doesn’t look like a beaten up frozen chicken, cannot be handled by events, because BW don’t have any data or sprites for it.
Yeah not huge on how Kyurem looks, so I wouldn’t be opposed to a new form ala Platinum’s Giratina.
They could always update the games. The wifi events could automatically add the form to the game’s data. Games do this all the time.
Nope, they don’t add data. The data is already stored on the cart, than unlocked by for example mystery gift. That’s why we know everything about unconfirmed legendaries like Genesect. If they want to do a new form, they need to create a new game, as they have done with Platinum.
I understand that Daedarus but they still COULD add data to the cart if they chose to
No they cannot add data.
Like I said above
“They can only unlock what’s already on the cart, because DS games are ROMs, which means read-only-memory.”
And even the trigger for the unlocking is already preprogrammed into the games. So for example they can give you the Secret Key on Platinum via wi-fi, but the key is already in the game, the script for opening the door to the unlocked room is already in the game, and of course the room with all the Rotom items is already in the game. No data is added to the ROM (just the save file changed), because it cannot be added.
lol frozen chicken, I was really disappointed with Kyurem’s design, I hope it gets a new form but….what would be its change in stats? Giratina’s switched offense and defense
Probably Attack and Spc. Attack boost.
Pokejungle, I would like to see this japanese interview where they talk about the possible sequel, deep plot and Ns name, please. Thanks
http://pokejungle.net/2010/12/03/bw-rumors-post-launch-edition/
This was the interview, it actually isn’t a rumor~ I posted it so early that it was considered one until the published scan came out. Do I get news too fast? Maybe 😡
wow that was fast xD Thanks again
I actually read almost every single comment on posts that I write so if I’m awake I respond pretty fast :p If I’m not awake or at school I might miss it ;-;
What is this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P6RhEeuFZQ
Just a fan made pokerap 🙂
Wow, it’s very well made, especially artworks.
I love how Jellicent sucks Remoid’s life energy, and Terrakion steps on land. And little Joltiks!!!
*Remoraid
Wow that’s a shocker…
I wonder if this means we’ll have some more surprises down the line…….maybe Game Freak will be focusing their attention on another pokemon game instead?
Lol I think this is fake, didn’t they already say there would be a third? One that tells us more about N?
Also, I may be wrong but aren’t the following pokemon sprites in the B/W coding? I could have sworn I saw someone somewhere that was ripping sprites and found them, the same ones from HGSS. I guess they could have just put them in for fun… XD
Ah well, it’s up to them in the end, but I do hope they make a third game.
-Spoilers!-
I hate to be left hanging with N flying away and then never getting to see him again… ;_; I love N! He better not leave for real!
…imagine how much of a twist it would be if you could battle him in the R/S remakes. Kind of like Red, on some mountain somewhere. Or in those falls whose name I can’t remember – kind of like Steven.
Or a double battle against Steven and N…! Or.. -is on a tangent of things that likely will not happen.-
I read that spoiler and I’m not sure I’ll ever forgive you. :<
Hey! That’s why I wrote “spoiler!” >^< Some people don't even write that.. -cry-
Wasn’t their speculation sometime about the third game being for the 3DS? I wonder if this interview meant to say something about that… Like, “The third game won’t be on the DS,” instead of the third game not existing at all.
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No, they specifically said no 3DS 3rd version according to this interview.
LOL, let’s really mix stuff up and make the third storyline game on the WII! 😛 The new BR-type game is secretly for the 3DS….
There are plenty of changes that could be made to BW like pokemon following you, battle frontier, pokethalon, etc.,
They could also make the games hard past the 2nd gym haha
There were also many things that pointed to a 3rd game like all the sages, underwater ruins, Kyurem etc.,
If I’m not wrong, do you remember that they said a long time ago that in BW no character from past games will appear? but voila, Caitlin, Looker, Cynthia…. Maybe they’ll make a similar surprise. Here’s what I think:
1. There IS a third version. They’re just talking like that to tense us up. (like the characters)
2. Expanded storyline to be downloaded by wi-fi.
3. A parallel sequel that introduces another region but same pokemon lineup and connecting plot. Although this is so boring
4. MagmaRuby and AquaSapphire to be the sequel of BW. Although this will break remakes tradition of not changing the main plot..
5. The new 3DS Pokemon game will have connections with the plot of BW
Please, I really want a third version!!! C’mon Game Freak!!
I’m wondering if the pokemon universe have a timeline?
Yes, sort of.
Gen I and III run at the same time.
Gen II and IV 3 years after that.
Gen V unknown time after Gen II and Gen IV.
They should tell the gap between gen V and gen II & IV.. It’s hard to tell.. Cynthia looks same like it’s a few years (or months) after gen IV, but the team rocket guy already has children with him like it’s been a long time..
Maybe she has eternal youth?
I always thought that II and III happened at the same time, considering that you just moved from Johto in III, and everyone acts as if you’re new to Johto in II. yet II is 3 years after I. hmmm… Also, Red is ageless. in r/b/g/y he is 10, in g/s/c he’s 13, in fr/lg he is 11, in the manga he is 19 in hg/ss but in the game he’s thirteen, but it’s a sequel to a remake, fr/lg, so he’s 14. Yeahhhh…
You have to keep in mind that the PC from Gold is not the same as the one from Ruby.
oh, true. Didn’t think of that Dar!
ps- can I call you Dar? Yeah, I didn’t think so.
Totally off topic, im just realizing something about axew lines name
Axew- AxYOU
Fraxure-FraxYOUR
Haxorus-HaxorUS
Weird huh lol
Good.
Google translate is optimistic. Read the title when you use google translate XD
Nintendo: “There will be a ‘Pokémon Grey’ in 3DS
Anyway in all seriousness, there WILL be a third one.
If there was a third installment It would compliment both games. To be honest I’m really exsited about the VI generation which could be a fully developed 3D pokemon stadium style games. A sad yet exsiting departure from the style we all grow up on. I really hope they expariment with the graphics and add more exclusive features, to the point that both versions are almost entirely different.
I’m pretty confident that they will stick to sprites.
In an interview they stated they would not want to replace 2d sprites with 3d models. I’ll try to find it.
I personally hope they really stick to sprites, because sprites have something about them that makes you like them much easier than a fully defined 3d model. They leave some imagination, which is absent with 3d.
No, Iwate didn’t say there would be no 3D images. He said that 3D doesn’t need to be a major part in Pokémon, probaly refering to no 3D movement.
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/3979/the_art_of_balance_pokmons_.php?page=2
Thanks! 🙂
I’d like a brownie brown style pkmn game, like mother 3. Yeah, that’ll happen.
There is a decent sized group who always wait for the third version before making a purchase. If that doesn’t happen, then those sales are either completely gone, or they’d most likely be buying Black/ White used.
Seeing as how the production of a third game is editing an already-completed game as opposed to making one from scratch, I can only assume they’d notice a profit loss with no third version.
It’s either a mistranslation or a scare tactic to force people into buying Black and White as soon as possible, rather than waiting.
If *that* is a scare tactic, I’m scared. Very.
The reason is I’m one of them who tends to play *only* the third game(except the RBY series), as they’re generally much better if not superior than the pair that comes before it.
If they’re not into it, I can wait for DarkBlack and LightWhite versions 10 years from now. Let’s face it. We’re doomed to settle for remakes!
This is random but yellow was the first pokemon game I ever played. However in Japan Blue version was actually the third installment.
Perhaps they want to repeat this strategy.
Oh yeah! DarkBlack and LightWhite! can’t freaking wait.
They just created entire “new” region,over 150 new pokemon,i think this generation deserves the third game.
gamefreak better make a third game,or some people are going to get kicked in the balls!
btw,i know its off-topic,but the new pokemon episodes from today rocked! one of those great things was the opening sequence,and the return of “who’s that pokemon”.its been too long of a wait for the new season,but im very pleased with it 🙂
At what time did it air? I wanted to watch it!! :'(
it aired at like 9 am this morning.sry u missed it
however…..the first episode will air again tommorow,at 7:00 am,so if u want to see it,u may want to go to sleep early
LOL, it is ok, i just finished watching the episode on Youtube. There was only one episode today right?
the first two eps aired today
Btw, IF the third is called Gray, it will be spelled gray, not grey. Why? Because pokemongray.com is registered and pokemongrey.com is not.
And for the love of god, don’t reply telling me they’ve also registered brown, pink, topaz, and crimson. I KNOW. I’m just saying that IF it is Gray, that would be the spelling.
I’ve got my money on Gray as well. How anyone thinks that the third game will be named “Crimson” is beyond me lol
I still think Gray is the most unattractive name they could ever think of.
Since Sapphire, when I started playing Pokemon, I have always picked up sequels/remakes, Emerald, FireRed&Leafgreen, Platinum & SoulSilver, but I won’t touch Gray version even if it is as big an improvement as Platinum was. Don’t say “Platinum is Gray” because Platinum is a metal.
However, everyone knows GameFreak loves their money, and many people might overlook the abhorrent title of the game because they love new content.
Gray just seems to be the most practical. I get what you mean regarding titles, but they also have to follow the theme, instead of, “zomg that name would sound so kewl” lol And yes, Platinum is indeed a metal. Fully aware :p
As I’ve been saying to my staff and such, there must be a serious movement of the loss of creativity in the world if they make “Gray Version”. I mean come on, its so basic and it is SO unattractive to gain interest in (Platinum was the same for me cuz it seemed dull; it was good gameplay nonetheless).
And I may be extremely wrong here, but Ruby and Sapphire really arent that old in truth. I have a feeling Yellow, or a Blue will be the next remake version because if it was, then that would finish off the update of the 1st Gen; and then it would make sense to move on to Gen 3 because all of GEn 1 and 2 would be finished as a whole for the time being.
The English games use American English, so by default it would be Gray. 😛
I think what’s going on is that the third installment will be a sequel, as opposed to a remake. Also, I don’t think ruby and sapphire will come out any time soon. Maybe with the next generation, on 3DS. Its not really worth having RS on normal DS graphics (also, HGSS came out in the 10 aniv of the games, so we probably would have to wait that long).
Anyway, just saw Best Wishes in english. WHAT IS UP with the song!!!! It’s terrible!!!! Everything else was fine, but MY GOD the editing on the clips is awful and the song itself is so dull! Def not as good as the Galactic Battles theme.
*hi-fives you* finally! someone who isn’t going MagmaRuby and AquaSapphire are coming out this gen! now, about RoughDiamond and SoftPearl…
I completely agree about the waiting period for the R and S remakes. Which is why, as every Gen since the 3rd has included remakes, it would make sense if Yellow or a version of Blue was remade instead; after all it would finish off Gen 1 for the time being.
What happened is very likely mistranslation.
I guess they asked if the third version would be on the 3DS, to which they replied “obviously not rofl”.
Of course it will. And it will be “Chrome” 😉
If not, then this’ll be the first time I’ve ever skipped a generation since I started with Blue.
chrome is great!
Chrome is too similar to Platinum in color. I wish Gamefreak decided to go back to being creative with the Titles…