A Spanish site has posted an interview with GameFreak in which they have declared Pokemon Black and White to be the last games in this iteration. Of course this declaration does not impact whether or not we get AquaSapphire and MagmaRuby, but unfortunately this looks like a no-go for Pokemon Grey (or Gray? Or why debate the spelling of a fan-guessed title for a game we now speculate may never exist?). I have my own doubts as to whether anything got lost in translation between Japanese, Spanish, and English, but this is definitely interesting news. Would definitely be ground breaking for the series not to cash in on a 3rd version.
As Serebii and I were discussing though, there is the fact that an interview with GameFreak (in Japan) had said that a third game would go deeper into N’s history and reveal his name. Tackman also points out that there are items and attacks that would seem to coordinate with the third legendary, Kyurem, that are not seen in Black or White. Is this rumor busted? Probably. But it’ll be interesting to see how it plays out.
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IT WAS A COMPLETE MISTAKE!!
There’s definitively going to be a THIRD version!
It´s not a good marketing strategy to say:
“BUY THIS GAME!… BUT THERE’S GOING TO BE A BETTER ONE SOON!”
In response to everything;
1) Pretty sure third game (Gray being the much more than obvious name here.) will be a bit more of a sequel, maybe. Another option is no third game, remakes instead thicken the s**t out of that plot.
2) The Ruby and Sapphire remakes are those games currently in progress for the 3DS, and I would personally put money on that. A LOT of money.
3) Now, correct me if I’m wrong, but back in the advance generation, didn’t they release a patch for the berry glitch in Ruby and Sapphire? Correct me if I’m wrong again, but they could end up doing stuff like that if Kyurem were to get a third form related to that God Stone, as the process would be similar. Think about it; they’re clearly not going to code in an alternate form for all to see, but they also wouldn’t have thrown coding like the God Stone in for no reason.
4) Just realized this while typing this out. N is going to either pop up in the R/S remakes, or the much further down the road D/P remakes. Remember, N disappeared and was last seen in another region “playing with dragons”. N’s either off mucking around with Rayquaza, Lati@s, or Dialga/Palkia. Totally calling it now, you read it here first.
Hope your predictions come true! I would be interesting to se N in otehr games!!
lol a game where you visit all regions…searching for N
Where in the region is carm-N and sandiego
that was a bad one
I personally don’t like N but still you could be right about him being in a cameo in another Region.
Remember when all the new pokemon were leaked by pokeexperto.com? Didnt they say the thurd legendary has three heads and drew a picture of it? That was the only pokemon they got wrong. But now think about it… Since apparently zek, resh and kyurem were all one pokemon before, according to the plot in b/w
Wouldnt it be obvious then that pokexperto actually leaked the alternate kyurem version that has three heads. One for zek, one for resh, and one for itself.
Also, all the people expecting plotwise sequels. Not gonna happen
Nope, he said that about the pseudo-legendary, Hydreigon.
About kyurem he said it was an ugly chicken noody would like
I’ve never seen the picture but That theory sounds great.
OBJECTION! it said they had no plans for future games….not that they wouldn’t make anymore….so you fail~
Maybe it is a mistranslation, and that only means no sixth gen.
Oh no! It’s way worse!!!
There IS a timeline for the Pokémon Universe.
Ash doesn’t exist here in the games.
Pokémon Red, Blue, Yellow and their remakes occur at the same time with Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald (so they can’t be sequels to BW)
Gold, Silver, Crystal, HeartGold, SoulSilver occur at the same time as Diamond, Pearl and Platinum three years after RBY/FRLG and RSE. And Black and White occur ten years after GSC and DPPt.
And the Pokémon Ranger and Colosseum series occur some tim after Gen I/Gen III and Gen II/IV.
Dont’ ask about Ash. He doesn’t exist in the games.
Sorry, but who said ash exists in the games?
B/W is 10 years after DPPt?! Wow, Cynthia looks good for her age!
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I mean, I know that GSC are sequels of RBY 3 years later, but how do you know DPPl happen at the same time and BW are 10 years later?! Specially since BW have a time traveling factor with the dragon gym city being different in both versions and the guy who talks about how one game is in a different time than the other. Also, how do you explain the presence of Cynthia or Hansom in Unova if its 10 years later but they look the same? According to your theories, BW should happen at the same timea s Platinum at the very least! And then the whole spin-off timeline I have no idea how you put those in there.
I think, strictly talking, the only ones we know for sure are RBY and MAYBE RSE (because the remakes talk about how they connect together in the Sevii Islands) happening at the same time, and GSC happening after RBY.
The only reason DPPt could be thought as happening at the same time as GSC is because of the remakes and the presence of the gym leader, but then this theory gets messed up because Jasmine is there to decide if she wants to be a gym leader or something like that, and then leaves to be one.
So I don’t think there is an official timeline, but something that is somewhat hinted. Until BW come out in english we probably wont be able to try to figure out when it happens.
Pokémon is a kids game. If they changed an iconic character to be 10 years older, how many kids stil know it’s her.
In the Pokémon world, nobody ages. You’re born young or old and stay so.
I’m sorry, I don’t mean to put you on the spot light, but that is a ridiculous comment.
a) Pokémon isn’t “a game for kids” like so many people like to say. Pokémon is a game. Period. Is not as intense as other games in other platforms like PS3 or Xbox360, but that’s mostly Nintendo’s choice.
b) Even if kids were the main target audience (which they’re not, as blatantly proven by BW), kids aren’t idiots. OK, let me stress that: KIDS AREN’T IDIOTS. For some reason, the most popular explanation when talking about anything pokémon is “well, you know, it’s a game for kids”. SO WHAT? I work for the entertainment industry and do a lot of work for kids. Kids today are very smart, and even if this was a 10-year-old target audience exclusive game, I’m pretty sure their brains would be able to process people aging.
So, no. I’m sorry but your comment makes no sense.
Oh, sorry, I’m tired, and I didn’t want to explain it to its fullest in my previous post, so I went with the lazy comment. :p
Perhaps we have a diferent perception of what a ‘kids game’ is. You say it’s not because there are many adults that play it, but for me Pokémon still target kids in a way of not showing blood, sex references, ….
But what I tried to say is that Pokémon is… wel just Pokémon. There’s no other explanation for it. You can say it’s a kids game, it’s just simple, but know they won’t change their roots.
While I disagree with you in that I don’t think a game for adults needs to have blood or sex references, I do agree that Pokémon sometimes has a way of pissing people off by not wanting to change those roots.
However, I still don’t understand this “10 year” thing, the lack of aging, and I haven’t seen any proof of that (the bulbapedia link doesn’t count, while I like that site quite a bit, they dont provide the reader with any examples to prove their statements).
Makes sense, after all, Caitlin was in the Battle Frontier on D,P,Plt,HG,and SS and she wouldn’t have gotten as good, or as grown up as the kid she was if about 10 years never passed.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
That’s silly. A 3rd version should exists. That is why they kept the triple and rotationa battles for.
I was always wish there would be a third game just not in isshu. like all the 5th gen pokemon could inhabit another region besides isshu.
Hey pkjn while doing some research in the B/W rom I managed to find the Royal Unova ship music… But apparently the song is called SEQ_BGM_PLEASURE_BOAT … Maybe this is the english name? I guess it is! Plz reply
Doesn’t seem likely. That name is used by Gamefreak, beacause they didn’t know from the beginning how they would name it. And it is TPCi that chooses Englisgh names.
meh
if there is a third game i probably won’t buy it
even though i got Yellow, Crystal, Emerald, and Platinum.
i just don’t have the money to spend anymore ;_;
oh well.
that’s what emulators are for i guess ;;
We know that BW happen 10 years after DPP because Cynthia and a member of Team Rocket said that in the games .
And look at Caitlin she looks older than in Pltinum and HG SS .
Look here for more informations :
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/History_of_the_Pok%C3%A9mon_world
Yeah this is great work, but most of this is speculation.
The Team rocket member that stole the part from the power plant in Kanto is also in Black and White.
Correct me If I’m wrong but, He has a family now and I think he’s located in Icirrus City.
Apparently the character is in the game in Castelia (team rocket theme sounds when you talk to him). Unfortunately I don’t read japanese well enough to be able to tell you accurately if the whole family thing is true.
This doesn’t really mean that it’s been 10 years though. It could’ve been 3 as far as we know.
And there’s still the whole “time traveling” concept of the Dragon Gym town (keep forgetting it’s name) with the guy who wants the pokémon “from the past/future” meaning the other version.
Yes the tr grunt lives in Iccirus City in a house only accessible during winter.
Lemme just say a few things here that apparently need some clarifying.
1. There will be a third version. It doesn’t make sense for there not to be. GameFreak really does like to profit on anything they can manage to, so instead of hyping fans up by saying “there will be a third game” and making them impatient for it, they’re saying “there won’t be a third game” and making it all the more exciting when it finally does get revealed. And it will get revealed, believe me. It’s only a matter of time.
2. The game won’t be on the 3DS. Did people really think it would be? You’re forgetting something big here: THE 3DS IS NOT A 3D VERSION OF THE DS. It’s a completely-new system. To release the third version on the 3DS would be like releasing Emerald on the DS, or Crystal on the GBA. That doesn’t happen. The format for a generation doesn’t change midway through. Nintendo is likely using the Pokemon franchise to stretch out the sales of DS games during the 3DS’s early years. With Pokemon still being released on the DS, sales for it will be stretched out as far as they can be.
they’re “faking their death” so people don’t bug them about it. Or they’re serious…
btw- you’re welcome pjn
The 3DS comment does make sense in the “stretch the DS games as far as possible” concept. You are, however, forgetting that Gold and Silver originally came out for GB with GB colour enhancements, but Crystal was a GBC exclusive. And it applies to this example, since there was backwards compatibility, it was basically the same system but with enhancements (color/3D) etc. This doesn’t mean I disagree, though. I think while it might be a DSi game, it may come with 3DS enhancements.
But something seems off to me, because i heard a while back that Game Freak (the company that makes pokemon) was heavily involved into the development of the 3DS. I was thinking that the games would have 3D when used on the 3DS or some other kind of feauture, but since that’s been deconfirmed, maybe they already have the next row of games in development. If that was the remakes of ruby and sapphire, there would be some great ways to integrate the SpotPass (or whatever its called) feauture. remember the secret base things??? well what if spot pass exchanges data about that automatically and there would be different trainers all over your map?? that’d be kinda awesome xD
i personally would be happy if there was no third game and they would move on in development faster. It would also show that they aren’t just trying to milk it some more
Well when the DS came out, Game Freak worked heavily with it, too, but didn’t release Diamond and Pearl for a little while. The first thing they released on it was a Rescue Team game. Actually, I think it was Dash. Either way, just because they’re working with new software does not, by any means, mean they’ll be ready to release a main series game on it any time soon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUGbYr9yTBI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lx1XfKo0VA&feature=related
epic 8-bit…ness(?)…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTbwcfjy8g8&feature=related
hope it’s in a remake.
does this also mean there won’t be generation 6 pokemon anymore? 🙁
wait if there is gonna be gray is it gonna be like gray suburb or sumtin?
lol i only just realised what you were trying to say there. good point!
I just did a quick check on google translate and found some interesting news. Even though it is not the exact quote, I put “There will not be a 3rd pokemon game on the 3ds” in google translate from english to spanish. After I got that, I changed it from spanish to japanese. Finally, I changed the translator from japanese to english, and the end result was quote, “There will be a third 3ds pokemon game”. Whether or not this has relevance, I’m not sure, but I thought it might help.
I would like a link to the interview about “future titles” that talks about N.
The one in the topic only links to a summary, I want to see exactly what they said.
http://raim2005.blog18.fc2.com/blog-entry-947.html There you are!
…It would seem that nobody has mentioned the Dark Trinity at all… .o.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kI42rQXPLws
there WILL be a third version
Yeah I think we all knew that it was just a translation error xD
That’s why I even posted the news with ‘Doubtful’ in the title :p
yeah im just glad it wasnt true. this game seems like it actually has some potential to be an actual sequel and not just a remake. i think it’ll be like pokemon mystery dungeon sky where, after you beat the game, you play a new story. hopefully you get to play as young n and present time n. and then afterwards they can go back to your characters story to figure out the story of kyurem and figure out what getis does next.
“What you wrote doesn’t make much sense, but if you are saying they could add stuff to BW via wifi-downloads, this won’t happen. They can’t add data that’s not in the game. They can only unlock what’s already on the cart, because DS games are ROMs, which means read-only-memory.”
Ok I just want to point out they use flags to run memory in pokémon games. Sometimes the flags only work in reaction to the presence of an item, so it isn’t technically adding new data to the game, just like the Old Sea Map in Emerald. Faraway Island wasn’t a new map, it was just inaccessible until you had the item. They could make the story go much further with built in scripts like that. If you take a Meloetta to the café in Castelia you can teach it a new move; but that’s not new programming that’s just an event that only works when you have that pokémon
I’m sure there will be a third game, but not as a downloadable content. I’m also pretty sure that the third game will be a sequel instead of just a remake, because black-white actually has got a quite good storyline. This sequel will probabely be playing the black-white game again, but with other trainers maybe or something like that. They won’t make a complete new map, because that wouldn’t be in the spirit of third games.
I also think it is better to make this sequel than to make a complete new generation, because actually, every game has the same ‘layout’ and i’m getting sick of all these new, extremely uncreative new pokemon. To make a fourth game after BW would also be a nice idea, because if the story is good enough, it won’t be boring and the same.
Also I really hope they’re making a remake of ruby and sapphire soon, because I really LOVE that generation! I’m now playing sapphire nuzlocke style and the awesomeness is beyond reality.