Here’s information Joe has released from his secret sauce. You can take it or leave it if you’re the doubting type. It is as follows:
[spoiler]
- 153 pokemon obtainable through gameplay with 3 more legendaries that will be distributable
- #633-#635 is the psuedo-line, Dark/Dragon
- #638 Steel/Fighting Legendary (Trio 1)
- #639 Rock/Fighting Legendary (Trio 2)
- #640 Grass/Fighting Legendary (Trio 3)
- #641 Pure Flying-type Legendary
- #642 Electric/Flying Legendary
- #643 & #644 Reshiram / Zekrom
- #645 Ground/Flying Legendary
- #646 Dragon/Ice Legendary (<— I revealed)
- #647 Water/Fighting Legendary (event PKMN)
- #648 Normal/Psychic Legendary (event PKMN)
- #649 Bug/Steel Legendary (event PKMN)
- Hiun city has boats that will take you to various islands (random fact)[/spoiler]
So take this as you will. It matches up with Experto’s information if you’re curious.
<3 pokejungle
ps- TOO MANY LEGENDARIES!! *sob* And thanks Joe <3 [Wow… PokeBeach is skipping Serebii credit? I’m sure that won’t end well]
156 – 13 legendaries = 143 ‘normal’ Pokémon.
There are many, many fighting Pokémon this time. I kinde wished the wood,steel,concrete Fight Pokémon would have a different typing then just fight.
So you say you can get 153 in game!?
Wait that cant be right. What about victini, zorua and zoroark!?
On the 156 pokemon bs:
The developers confirmed that 17 guys did “about 10” each for “about 170 new pokemon.”
This means some did 9. Some did 11. Some did 10. Maybe one did 8.
Realistically, this was the breakdown.
8
9
9
9
9
9
10
10
10
10
10
10
10
10
11
11
11
166.
Much closer than PXP’s BS.
Provided nobody did 11, the number is 163. Also much closer to 170.
Provided the guy who did 8 did 9 and one of the guys who did 9 did 10, 165. Again, much closer to 170.
It’s not 156 pokemon. PXP is lying to your face and Serebii and others are eating it up and spitting it back out as fact.
I got the 156 number back in July. They said about 10 each
If 14 people did 9 and 3 did 10…bam 156
So how does this work out?
You said 156 Pokemon, 153 obtainable in game…
3 distributed legends at the end of the Dex, Victini at the beginning, and Zorua and Zoroark somewhere = 6 Pokemon,, meaning only 150 should be obtainable, right?
14 people doing 9 is not “17 people doing about 10 each”
If it was that way, they would have said “17 people doing about 9 each”
…What? :/ What makes you think there are 166? That’s such a random made up number lol..
It’s not that I believe there are actually 166, you must be twelve if you thought that.
I’m saying that 156 is unrealistic. By a long shot. This is based on the fact that the devs said “17 people doing about 10 each.” About ten means the majority did 10, some might have done less, some might have done more.
The only way 156 is obtainable is through assuming that the majority of the artists did 9 a piece. IF that were the case, they would have said “17 people did about 9 each.”
^They say ten because it’s a “nicer” number than nine.
But saying 10 implies the number is close to 170.
It could be OVER 170 for all we know.
156 is 14 away. I highly doubt they would give an estimate that was 14 away.
Wait, what? Given how easily annoyed you just got because you came up with the bizarre conclusion that there are 166, I’d say if anyone is 12 it’s you, but what a stupid way to reply to someone.. honestly you’ll get nowhere if you say someone is 12 whenever they point out one of your mistakes.
Oh, and they said ‘about 10’ because it’s a round number, the same way you’d say ‘give me 5 minutes’ when you mean more
Some awesome typings there but… where does this leave the (pre)evos of existing pokes? There was a rumour a while back that they’d come after Reshiram and Zekrom in the ‘dex, but now where are they? I want my Pinsir evo dammit!
Aha!
So we have
“Serebii Legendary’s Information” vs “Experto stuff” (Instead of “Pokexperto Pokémon Information” or something like that)
And the 2 o then provided the same evidence!!
PXP is still rocking. Normal/Fight, take that.
Wow out of all these pokemon announced, there is no ghost type. There’s 16 different pokemon right now, but no ghost type.
i agree. where are my ghost types! haha, dead i guess 🙁
Or Ice? And have we seen Poison?
Oh wait, I forgot the Ice/Dragon Legendary. I mean non-legendary, to clarify.
I really want an ice/electric type.
The Freezer Pokemon! XD Come forth, giant box, and do battle with my enemies!
LOL!
I was thinking something more like a cloud. You know how very rarely it snows and lightnings at the same time.
Doesn’t this already exist in Rotom?
Shh, don’t spoil my fun. 😛 Something like a mix between Frost Rotom and Magnemite.
Maybe, cold electric pokemon. Pokemon based on an animal(choose one) and covered withThunder shaped icicles.
Niiiice. I like all of these typings. Sounds like this will be an interesting batch of legendaries.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Wco-CXToa8
Sky Arrow Bridge Animation
The Normal/Psychic has an alternate form: Normal/Fighting
Hiro, from Pokexperto
so would Zorua and Zoroark be #636 and #637?
No, #570 and #571.
I think it is so funny that my bf’s name is Hiro :B
hmm thats weird that 2 event only pokemon are in the middle of the dex.
unless you can get them in the game?
or they’re just being weird with the numbering
Old CoroCoro scans say they’re not obtainable through normal play.
I’m trying to think of a loophole as to why they would be in the middle of the dex, I came up with three possibilities.
1.A gym leader/trainer (someone like N) has a Zoroa/Zoroark in the game which allows it to go on the Pokedex.
2.obtainable in dream world.
3.This is all a hoax.
It’s a hoax. Kriffix. I’m with you on your suspicions. It’s so disgustingly obvious that PXP is completely making everything up on the fly. They might have “SOME” kind of source but there is no way in hell that they have all of the information they’re pretending to. Too many WTFs and WAITAMINUTES and discrepancies.
Don’t believe anything PXP is saying.
http://pokejungle.net/2010/09/10/experto-pt-5/comment-page-1/#comment-13557
http://pokejungle.net/2010/09/10/experto-pt-5/comment-page-1/#comment-13385
http://pokejungle.net/2010/09/10/experto-pt-5/comment-page-1/#comment-13564
http://pokejungle.net/2010/09/10/experto-pt-5/comment-page-1/#comment-13363
Joey, dude stop phoning me
You must be referring to a different Joey.
Wait.
Chillarmy ist the 78th in the Isshu Dex.
493+078=571
add one for Victini?
493 + 1 (Victini) + 78 = 572
You’re right.
Sorry for the accusation
I LOVE IT!! I’m so happy!! I love the Water/fighting :D!! Let’s hope none of this turns out to be fake!
Btw the starter evo’s are pretty much confirmed by the interview at pokebeach… if anyone did miss that… Sorry if everybody already knows it >w<
BW COME FASTER!
Hiro is going beyond the information Serebii has given.
He said the Steel/Rock/Grass + fighting trio is 4 legged (Even though they are Fighting type), and the other trio are Raijins.
He also describe de Steel/Bug Pokémon, as a robot in the shape of a weird bug. More detailed Spanish description in here:
http://www.pokexperto.net/index2.php?comm_start_from=50&archive=&subaction=showcomments&id=1284125913&ucat=2&
Don’t believe anything PXP is saying.
http://pokejungle.net/2010/09/10/experto-pt-5/comment-page-1/#comment-13557
http://pokejungle.net/2010/09/10/experto-pt-5/comment-page-1/#comment-13385
http://pokejungle.net/2010/09/10/experto-pt-5/comment-page-1/#comment-13564
http://pokejungle.net/2010/09/10/experto-pt-5/comment-page-1/#comment-13363
so finally a pseudo legendary line with no X4 weakness??Coll..and dark/dragon type!!!COOL
Metagrosss….
yeah but I usually don’t include metagross line cause I just take one from each generation..and metagross is also too much different from the others..also if it is considered a pseudo legendary
I was really hoping they’d show some restraint with the legendaries this time around… they really stop feeling special when there are so many of them.
Oh well.
Yeah, but a lot of people find it fun to track them all down. ^^
Hey now. At least there are less legendaries in this generation than there were in IV. And at least there are a total of 156 Pokemon, so the ‘massive’ amount of legendaries don’t seem like they’re *that* much of a chunk. =P
I’ve heard people saying there are 13 legendaries in V… if you don’t count phione, there were 13 legendaries in IV. Though you do have a good point about it being a smaller percent of the newly introduced pokemon than it was in IV.
I probably just have the nostalgia goggles on, but it was awesome catching articuno/zapdos/moltres and especially mewtwo because you knew you had just gotten something very unique. But I understand it’s a matter of opinion – I’ve always preferred working to find that one genuinely rare or unique thing over constantly finding a bunch of semi-uncommon things.
Lol 12 legendaries, that means if this was true, 1/12 or 1/13 or so of the new pokemon would be ‘legendary’.. it’d be about time to make a new ‘legendary legendary’ brand for actual rare pokemon
13
3 – Fighting Trio
3 – New Dragon Trio
3 – Flying Trio
3 – Event Trio
1 – Victini (who oddly isn’t included int the Event section)
*Note: Just cause I grouped them into a trio, doesn’t mean they belong together.
the pure flying one makes no sense, since flying is the only exclusively secondary type. I expect that one to turn out having some primary type, or simply normal/flying. This reminds me of Chatot btw.
The dragon/ice tells me that they are starting another trio pattern, while the old one is still not finished but is running out of interesting options. Or it’s not related to the main legends, explaining the guy between them (but that seems very unlikely).
The fighting trio smells.
Following the pattern of the past 4 trios, the fifth should be a ROCK member, and the other 2 any of the left ones: Ground, Dark, Grass, Poison, Psychic (leaving out secondary types like flying bug and dragon)
The rock and grass one are a fit, but steel has no business being there, since there was 2 members in past trios (which is the max number of any type used (these being:ice, electric, fire, water, steel))
Can you check if the steel/fighting one is misinformation?
btw. still no poison legendary? ):
This is what I said.. flying and no other type doesn’t really make sense, since it’s always either normal and flying, or flying and some other type. Flying is more of a secondary feature
Yep. With the last 4 generations they showed us that there is no way there would be a pokemon of the type
Flying/something
or simply
Flying
If there wasn’t a single pokemon that could be described by the flying type as its main element, then such a pokemon is nonsense.
Be open minded and don’t follow old schemes and then pure flying type is nothing weird.
if you read, you may notice its not like “oh water/fire is weird so it wont happen” but rather a logical conclusion.
I wish I could edit my comments lol.
For now I find this list fishy for at least 3 reasons:
-trio doesnt follow pattern
-pure flying
-no psychic/fire event legendary
Victini is 000/494. they’re showing what’s at the END of the Pokedex, not the beginning.
That’s one reason down. 😛
PXP is faking information.
http://pokejungle.net/2010/09/10/experto-pt-5/comment-page-1/#comment-13557
http://pokejungle.net/2010/09/10/experto-pt-5/comment-page-1/#comment-13385
http://pokejungle.net/2010/09/10/experto-pt-5/comment-page-1/#comment-13564
http://pokejungle.net/2010/09/10/experto-pt-5/comment-page-1/#comment-13363
You do realise we’d get 157 pokemon then and not 156?
Umm, no, it’s not 157. 649(Total)-493(old)=156(new).
you need 156 to get from 493 to 649. you are saying victini is nr. 0 in natdex too, but regardless its 1 more new pokemon tehrefore 157.
???
Victini is 000 in the REGIONAL dex, 494 in the National dex. It’s the first of the Isshu Pokemon. It’s not in the dex twice.
Hiro has explained some things.
-The Raijin Trio are like the Djinns of the Lampares riding in clouds.
-The Fighting Trio are like horses.
-The Water/Fighting is a little horse (Trio master?)
-The Normal/Psychic (and Normal/Fighting) is a girl with a hat and long hair.
-The Bug/Steel is a bug robot with a huge cannon in the back.
“-The Normal/Psychic (and Normal/Fighting) is a girl with a hat and long hair.”
what the hell? would make for one hell of a weird Pokemon.
It’s SABRINA! Someone finally captured her!
and forgive me lack of knowledge, but what are “Djinns of the Lampares”?
An incredibly funny traslation error xDDDDDDDDDDD
hahaha, so what is it suppose to translate to? 😮
I’m assuming it translates to Genie of the Lamp.
I’m confused too, there’s only one trio in that list. There’s no raijin trio :S I don’t think he meant the horse trio either because he mentioned them later.
Might be talking about the Dragon trio? lol that’s the only other “trio” I see.
these sound pretty odd
and who are the raijin trio?
The flying ones
I see only 2 flying legends in the list, so that makes no sense.
If you are including the apparently pure flying one, it makes even less sense.
water horsie X3 teehee maybe it’ll look like those horse fish creatures from greek mythology hippocampus I believe they’re called or something like……..
and bipolar mind crushing, bone crushing girl DO WANT *if real Xp*
Ground/Flying? o.ô
whats the problem?
Gligar.
And you didn’t notice the freakin pure flying pokemon? xDDD
So if this Melkor guy has had the game for a week or so now, why has he only been posting descriptions of the pokemon one by one over such long periods? Wouldn’t you just hack the game and post a list describing all of the pokemon, or better yet just take a video? I guess he needs extra time to think this stuff up..
Don’t believe what PXP is saying. There may be truth to some of what he’s releasing but he does not have the game and he doesn’t have a special source. It’s all bullshit.
http://pokejungle.net/2010/09/10/experto-pt-5/comment-page-1/#comment-13557
http://pokejungle.net/2010/09/10/experto-pt-5/comment-page-1/#comment-13385
http://pokejungle.net/2010/09/10/experto-pt-5/comment-page-1/#comment-13564
http://pokejungle.net/2010/09/10/experto-pt-5/comment-page-1/#comment-13363
i think most people kinda figured out by now that melkor doesnt have the game and is just bluffing bout the whole thing he may got a source but i highly doubt he has the game not even pre-ordered people got there game yet he couldnt even get the game imported yet
pokejungle there is strong proof now that the starters evolutions are real, on pokebeach. its very dissapointing but ill try and try and try to like pokabus! ;( so u may want to post that
no they not in a interview with Sugimori he said he made mijumaru line to be like a “water/fighting line where there shells on there stomach can be used as a sword(katana)” that thing they had on that picture looked nothing like what Sugimori is describing in his interview.
yes but in that same interview he stated how the last evo of the water starter ended up being closer to a sealion which it’s the last evo does resemble
in the interview translation i read on bulba he stated that he combined a sea otter and line together in the evolutions
First Bug Legendary! 😀
and another water/fighting!……and a pure flying! 😀 Sounds good if it’s true, many type matches that haven’t happened before.
So what pokemon are #636 and #637? :/
Bug/Fire Type Pokémon and evo.
That sounds kick ass.
Hhahaha! I was just gonna write that you wrote that in a response over st PxP XD
Hiro, please, when does Appears Shikijika on the dex ? At the end ?
I hope it’s a scarab!
I made a fakemon once that was Fire/Bug and it was a scarab. It just seems to fit, maybe because many images I’ve seen of Scarabs they look red/fiery. It would fit with the desert to have scarab type pokemon.
Thanks 😀
It looks like we might finally be getting a few decent bug pokemon, rather than the horrendously weak ones we’ve had so far.
hey im diging the dark/dragon line im definietly gonna use that if its real the fighting trio is a little weird and also PJ you should check this out too i found on Bulbapedia. Sugimori actually talks bout the designs of the starters and how he developed the evolutions of them mijumaru last form sounds pretty badass i thought it would be interesting to show you if you didnt kno bout it already lol
http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_Pia_information_begins_to_surface
If you read a few comments above you, you’d see that we’ve known about the interview for quite a while.
oh my bad
Not really related to this but noone’s gonna read the comments on an older post so here goes:
http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/bwpia_draw06.jpg
Every Pokémon has its own card, even Minezumi and Miruhoggu. The “evolution” is actually probably just Shikijika. I have no idea how though, maybe it’s got special “blooming” forms in addition to the different season forms?
It’s all bullshit. DO NOT BELIEVE PXP.
http://pokejungle.net/2010/09/10/experto-pt-5/comment-page-1/#comment-13557
http://pokejungle.net/2010/09/10/experto-pt-5/comment-page-1/#comment-13385
http://pokejungle.net/2010/09/10/experto-pt-5/comment-page-1/#comment-13564
http://pokejungle.net/2010/09/10/experto-pt-5/comment-page-1/#comment-13363
This has nothing to do with PxP, it’s an observation I made entirely by myself.
PXP said that the Pokemonpia magazine doesn’t have a Shikijika evo.
He’s saying Shiki’s evo doesn’t look like that.
Serebii is saying the “shiki evo” might be a Tsutaaja evo.
Instantly proves that they’re both making shit up because it’s OBVIOUSLY Shikijika’s evolution.
You’re so anti-PxP it’s kinda silly. As I said, this hasn’t got anything to do with him, and for the record I thought he was wrong about this until right now when I noticed it might actually just be Shikijika.
Can we wait until we can see more than just a tiny corner of the evo/whatever before we start hating?
How many times r u going 2 post this (¬_¬)
anyone looking at the picture and saying its not an evo of the season changing normal/grass pokemon we know as shikijika, I declare freaking blind.
But why would they break the pattern like that?
There’s Shiki’s four forms on the top, and bottom left is likely Shiki from the back, so why would they randomly throw in an evo in the bottom right instead of another pose or something like on the other ones?
I don’t know why. It makes sense, but there is nothing on Shikijika that looks like this.
Add that its of a darker colour, while all the other pokemon have simply different poses and always the same colours and shading.
Really stop doing this its annoying no 1 cares,and the way you spam the posts
im guessing your like 10
That could well be a generic ‘Grass pokemon’ page. The left one under Shikijika looks like Tsutarja’s mid-evo, and the right one looks like Yanappu’s evo. It’d be an odd way of doing things, and its odd considering the others are all single pokemon sheets only, but it’s possible. It should also be noted that we can’t seen the whole of quite a few, and that no other evos are on the same sheet as their pre-evolutions.
On that note, it could similarly be another, as yet unknown pokemon, who also has seasonal forms, going from the left form to the right form. That would make that page not ‘Shikijika’s page’ but a seasonal or alternate form page.
Well, Serebii said that there are 153 Pokemon obtainable in game, of a total of 156
156 – 3 = 153
Making only 3 event Pokemon, and that includes Victini
thus, Zorua, Zoroark, and the Water/Fighting legendary are all obtainable in game…..
Pokexperto, who said that there were 5 event Pokemon, just got PWNED!!!!!
no, there are 156 Pokemon and out of that 3 are event legendaries (#647, #648,#649) + other event only Pokemon like Zorua and Zoroark
You do realise, since Zorua and Zoroark evolve into one-another, he may be counting them as a single 1 of those 5 right? You don’t need both events to get both of them, so they could effectively count singularly.