RUMOR: Images Show Final Froakie, Chespin Evolutions & New Pokémon

These are not necessarily real images, their authenticity has not been established. Please do NOT treat this as a news post, instead enjoy commenting & speculating. We will update you if any details come out to (dis)prove any of this.

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The pictures above purport to be from a review copy of Pokémon X. As you can see, they claim that this is the final evolution of Froakie, Greninja, and a new Flying/Fighting-type Pokémon called Hawlucha. The latter Pokémon also has a new Fighting-type attack called Flying Press.

UPD2: A new image has surfaced claiming to show the final evolution of Chespin from behind. This is from a different person than the person who posted Greninja & Hawlucha. UPD: Confirmed fake

The poster also mentioned that XP is also much easier to earn and that entire parties will get some from battles with the use of EXP Share, a key item found early in the game. He also mentioned that XY only introduce around 70 new Pokémon. He also said that there barely is any endgame, with you only being able to catch Mewtwo and the Z legendary.

UPD1: A new Pokémon has supposedly been photographed. No other details are currently known. Remember, we do not know if these Pokémon are real or fake, so please don’t consider them as either until they are proven one or the other.

UPD3: We broke the site record for most visits in one day! Also, be wary of all the ‘leaks’ out there, there are so much (blatant) fakes going around that the legit leaks may get lost in it!

Looking forward to reading your comments!

<3 PJ

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    • Well they can track the IP of person who first uploads the images, which can give them information of the country and area the uploader comes from. Not a lot of review copies go out so it wouldn’t take too long to launch a small investigation and find the offending reviewer.

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        • Correct, but even then a thorough investigation into breach of information embargo could lead to the leaker being identified through checking email accounts etc. Not many reviewers would care enough about leaking a Pokemon Starter and risk losing their job just so we can see them 12 days early.

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          • hmmmm…I don’t think, that would be risky, after all there are sd cards, rar passwords, private mails ect. it shouldn’t be that hard to do o_O

  1. I like the names Greninja and Hawlucha (not Hawklucha) but I really don’t like these… Also I did hear that the Exp. Share is back to the Exp. All which is interesting and I like it 🙂 And only 70 new Pokemon? Urghh

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  2. They said that the author admitted photoshopping them. Then again, its 4chan.

    Also, 70 new Pokemon? Even with Megalutions it lets me down.

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  3. I hope they are fake, the evolution of frogadier looks terrible and has a terrible name. That and the the that there would only be 70 new pokemon would be a terrible disappointment if its real.

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  4. WANNA KNOW WHAT I FEAR THE MOST NOW? Gamefreak releasing the other 30~50 pokémon in the “set” as DLC. I swear I will slap Masuda in the face with a table.

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    • I was just thinking this. Cause one of the codes on the website titled “Gottacatchemall” (how fitting) is called “XY738A” which IMO meants 738 total Pokemon in XY, version A. 89 new Pokemon. We will probably get another batch 60-70 batch of Pokemon in version B of XY sometime next year as DLC as you say. Or in sequel games or Hoenn remakes.

      Remember mewtwo’s source file name of “MewtwoX” and people didn’t want to believe it had two forms?

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  5. As if it’s real because I read that junuchi Masuda that that there are 600+ pokemon and closer to 700 pokemon and I really hopes it’s fake
    1. The two pokemon look crap
    2 .there should be like the biggest amount of new pokemon because x and y is one of the biggest games of pokemon
    Only time will tell

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    • Not necessarily in the past even numbered generation introduced less Pokemon. Generation 2 only brought 100 new Pokemon, and generation 4 brought 107 new Pokemon I think. Generation 6 should introduce around the same amount of Pokemon as Gen 2 and 4.

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  6. Please god be fake! Please Arceus be fake! Please if your gonna have new pokemon at least make it 110 please don’t screw-up a thing beginning to be good.

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  7. Fake.

    41 Pokemon have already been revealed excluding Mega Evolution’s. There’s just no way they can some up a new Gen with 29 more.

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    • 41 + 3 (final evo) + 1 (helioptile evo (i’m sure of it)) + 2 (swirlix/spritzee evo) + 1 (flabebe eva (could be)) + 1 (bunnelby evo) + 2 (clauncher/skrelp evo) + 1 (meowstic pre-evo (if espurr is real)) + 1 (Z legend) + 3 (if there’s a legend trio) that leaves at.. 54. I’m not really sure that there’ll be only 16 new undiscovered/unexpected Pokemon, and seeing that there’re soo many new Pokemon revelations compared to Gen IV announcement (Which are only 15ish pre-release pokemon if I remember) this is big chance gonna be a big roster

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    • Not that I want there to be only 70 new Pokemon, but something to consider is the number of Pokemon from old generations appearing as wild Pokemon in this game. To be honest, considering every Pokemon had to be redone with a new 3d model, GF might have wanted to make use of all that work by making old Pokemon appear more frequently, minimizing the need for making more new ones. It’s definitely not like Unova, in other words.

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          • That really doesn’t answer the question though. Just saying. Did Gamefreak actually confirm they used different models. If so citation. Cause to be honest they used the same variation of models between Pokemon Stadium all the way to Pokedex App adding new ones every Gen

          • I think they could possibly be the same models with a slightly lower poly count and lower res textures. It’s a waste of money to make 600+ new models when perfectly good ones already exist.

          • Touche. After a lot of comparing, it looks like the actual models are the same, and the majority or all of the poses are the same, but they’ve been reskinned with some very subtle tweaks. Subtle to the point where the tweaks may actually be just shit happening during the re-skinning process. (For instance, the spot on Bulbasaur’s left leg is in a different place)

            Of course, that’s judging just on the released screenshots we have.

  8. Lol why would GF release 30+ new Pokemon if there’s only 70 new Pokemon? And how come instead of clouds Gren has a long tongue? Don’t believe it guys

    Friendly tip: NEVER believe a leak unless an official source confirms it or the leaker provides a shot of the overworld

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  9. If there’s something I’ve learned is that if the leak is too good it’s fake, if the leak has a bad design then it’s true.. So maybe that’s froakie evolution (actually we cannot even understand its design so maybe it is not bad at all)

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      • Hey, it definitely does not make you a genwunner to not like one new pokemon… You are entitled to not have to love them all. It does look like a tongue around his neck, which is weird, but I think he’s okay myself.

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  10. These are fake because why out of nowhere Froakie/Frogadier got rid of the bubble clouds? Radical changes like that don’t happen unless it’s a chrysalis/shell evolution beforehand. Second, the tounge scarf? Was that pulled out of their ass last second or what? Hawlucha it’s physiology doesn’t scream fighter to me, now had Staraptor was being released for gen 6 I could believe it cause he has reach and the appearance to be a fighter. And finally a massive blow to these lies do you notice the status screens where their genders, names and items are listed? They are black while on confirmed demos and screenshots they are brown while the background with the pokeball insignia is a light tan, while these alleged pictures backgrounds are white.

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  11. 1. Why would gamefreak only make 70 pokemon when they KNOW people are expecting around 140-150,
    2. He’s claiming that exp is easier to gain due to the exp share… IT’S ALREADY CONFIRMED! Trying to pass off confirmed things as “Leaks”
    3. They’re bad quality, if he really was playing the game then he obviously had the time and effort to get a video or… heck… A GOOD PICTURE?

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      • No, what has been confirmed is that there will be more Pokémon available in the game than in any other Gen. What they said is that this is the first time you’ll be able to catch every Pokémon without having to transfer from previous games.

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    • My main issue is that fact that froakie v3’s typing isn’t revealed. It’s such a hot topic, you’d think he’d include it in the images, especially since he revealed that fly/fight guy.

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  12. This is slightly off topic but I since this is a speculation page maybe it isn’t too bad? I have a theory about team Flare’s ultimate goal. But first, let’s see what we know about their intentions:
    1) They are collecting money by selling Pokemon and fossils

    2) They are trying to create a beautiful world
    I’m sure we’ve all heard the saying “Beauty is in the eye of the beholder”. So what if their idea of beauty is a non-individual dystopia? I couldn’t think of the word, but where everything is the same and there is no expression. I believe this is probable because:
    1) Life and Death are a cycle of change, and could just as easily represent different fashions and preferences going out of style.
    2) As we already know, X and Y are going to feature a lot of customization, for example Character Customization and grooming Furfrou. This would be good in contrast to the evil team’s goal.

    3) If the Pokebeach rumors are correct, this team will appear on TV in the beginning of the game (and probably later). This means Team Flare is going to use propaganda to encourage people to be like them and dress like them.

    This is just my hypothesis. I have no idea whether it will happen or not. I have to apologize, I had more to write but it’s morning so my brain is mush. I’d be suprised if this even made sense. Anywho what do you guys think?

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  13. Ahah this is going to be the B/W starters all over again… Personally I think the images may be legit but the written information is questionable. Although their has been an emphasis on past pokemon in trailers/interviews along with giving past pokemon the mega treatment so I wouldn’t be surprised if there were only around 70 new pokemon in the region pokedex but along with A LOT of old pokemon too (Which would explain why the dex is split)

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  14. Hawlucha?! I know these are fake I saw “Hawlucha” around the time of the july coro-coro release and was dumb enough to believe that they were real I was looking under fan-made Fennekin evolutions and it was so odd looking. Also releasing 70 pokemon? This has to be a fraud cause not counting mega evos they’ve released 40 pokemon over half this is impossible cause they released 31 pokemon before Black and White was released and that gen had 156 new pokemon.

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  15. I honestly don’t believe any of that. 70 Pokémon is just a nope. Almost non-existent endgame? Masuda said it would be the most complete Pokémon game ever, I really don’t think he would miss something as important as the endgame. The EXP Share thing is confirmed, though, and the earning Exp more easily is too.

    Also, the screencaps are very odd. The bird has five feathers on its wings on the first screenshot (and they are pointy) and only four on the second screenshot (and they are rounded).

    Not buying this one.

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    • Not to mention Masuda also mentioned a massive endgame in an interview. I’ll try to find a source, but this pretty much points out how false the rumors are.

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    • Maybe the bird has different wings for each different Hawchula, like a Spinda type of deal.

      I think the images are real, but the text is completely bullcrap.

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    • But it could be Pokemon from different generations. And I may be wrong but wasn’t it confirmed that there will be more wild Pokemon in each area? Which I would assume means trying to have almost all the ‘mons available in the game.

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  16. With 40 pokemon already revealed, and at least 10 others being evos which we can predict happening ( starters. Espurr, helioptile, skrelp, clauncher, bunnelby, spritzer,swirlix), that leaves 20 completely unique pokemon left (including supposedly Hawlucha, which I actually like) to discover. Not happening. Gamefreak don’t actively hate the fanbase and aren’t suicidal. This person just knows how to make pokefans truly rage. Don’t entertain this troll. I mean, he even added that “no endgame” crap as a sick bonus.

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  17. Greninja looks cool. I doubt there is only 70 pokemon, they said 5th gen was going to be the shortest and they introduced more than 70. “barely is any endgame” is not believable as most pokemon games gave us alot to do post game. The bird pokemon looks fan made.

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  18. Definitely fake. There just CAN’T be only 70 Pokémon, let alone less than 100. And no endgame? You HAVE to be kidding me.

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  19. Had they gone with a bubble scarf instead of a tounge, said there was a alot to do post game, stated that there are around 113 new pokemon excluding the ones shown and their evolutions then it would have been more believable.

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  20. I know these are probably not true, but isn’t there another rumour saying that the entire pokedex will be in the game….. this would make more sense if this was true.

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  21. I hope these are fake because greninja is ugly AF. It’s head just randomly turns into a triangle. And 70 pokemon? Yeah right. There’s no stinking way there is any less than 100. I would only believe that crap if every single pokemon got megaevolutions

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  22. Geninja looks bad with the pink “tounge” thing! The bird looks weird. Also, the EXP Share changes back to the EXP All, I wonder why they didn’t use that. 70 pokemon in Kalos. Wasn’t thy a rumor before that was fake. Pokemon already said 100+ new pokemon. If it was that the Kalos would hav a small amount of pokemon. Also, I think pokemon as learned from there mistakes about the endgame of pokemon! I’m sure we’re going to have a good one! Hopefully this is all fake!

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  23. I believe this is fake too. I feel like the Sixth gen is something GameFreak worked very hard on and if they don’t give us a lot of post game content and new pokemon, then I will call GameFreak GameTroll.

    But, anyway, I’m pretty excited for the game. I’m guessing by around Oct. 4th, there will be a lot of leaks flooding into the forums, since the embargo will be lifted a little bit.

    I can’t wait! 🙂

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    • Obviously they would be your party Pokémon. In the Froakie3 image he would be the fourth Mon in your party hence hi pokeball is slightly moved to the left

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  24. I think yall should let Pokebeach handle all leaks and rumors cause this is completely false. Lol come on now Pokejungle, 70 Kalos pokemon??? Get real. I know you got pictures and all, but this is way off.

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  25. I don’t know about the images, but the written info sound ridiculous. Only 70 new pokemon? It is unlikely they will ever add less then 100 new pokemon. Now if you add that to the 40 already revealed which would make it 110, maybe. But given how nostalgic this game is and all it’s newness in design and all sorts of stuff and the increased amount of pokemon in gen 5 it seems likely we would have at least 150 or something. And I don’t know how much this reviewer h s seen pokemon, but it very unlikely that they will have so few legendaries. Unless the mega evolutions count for something? The froakies evolution looks unlikely of a direction they would go in. Now there is no way of knowing of this is real or not until the games are out unless this person admits to lying or someone discovers a way to prove they arg lying. I hope this information proves false. Leaks seem unlikely right now though at least if they are serious reviewers who want to keep their job. They only really convincing leak is the pokemon center images. It just looks right and real, but who knows.

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        • they bubbles were never “hyped”.
          What is everyone fascination with the bloody bubbles? haha i mean settle down and look at Octillery. Prevo designs mean nothing

          I dont care if the image is real or not I just hope whatever the final Froakie is it has no bubbles whatsoever just so the idiots who think “losing bubbles” i the ultimate decider on fake/real feel like idiots 😀

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          • Gastly lost his gas. Chikoritas line lost its forehead leaf.

            as alluded to earlier, in nature, bubbles are associated with nests/young frogs. In that regard the frog “growing up/evolving” and losing something associated with being younger makes total sense.

            or, equally feasible, the designers couldn’t care less about something so trivial. and it means nothing. certainly not proof that this is fae (not that I am saying its real just seems like a stupid reason to doubt it to me)

  26. Wow. This is nostalgic…
    These must be real because it feels like Black & White all over again. 80% of the comments here are complaints of people in disbelief, just like how it was with the leaks for the Black & White starters. Honestly, I don’t ever believe rumors straight on, but my instincts are telling me those picture are real, but I’m not believing the text. If I’ve learned anything so far this gen, it’s to not believe the texts. Look at the text separately from the pictures because we have no idea where these pics are originating from.

    Anyway, we’ve seem to finally have are Fighting/Flying-type Pokémon! A hawk luchador. Greninja isn’t exactly what I imagined, but it’s not bad. If this is real, @TCMets was right! It’s grenadier and not brigadier like everyone thinks it is!

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    • The bird is fake because the design is inconsistent. When in the wild it has pointy, sharp feathers. In the pokedex entry it has fewer, and rounded, feathers.
      I’m not so sure about greninja either. While Masuda did say he thinks froakies transformation is the greatest, I’m just not quite sure about this one.

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    • Remember when the final evolutions of the 5th gen starters were leaked? Everyone said they were fake because they thought GameFreak wouldn’t make pokemon like that. I’m with you in thinking the images are real, but the written information is way too obviously fake.

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          • No it doesnt at all. what is weird about it? your own deep love for bubbles? your point has no basis for anything

            Chikorita; “the leaf pokemon” kept its leaf in its first evolution, then lost it.
            Think logically dude

          • Yea, because leaves always magically turn into flowers in nature :/
            Besides the leaf was on the forehead for both primary snd secondary evolutions, then gone.

            Your argument is stupid, your opinion is stupid and clearly there is little point talking reason with you. good day sir, go have a bath or something with plenty of bubbles….I bet they disappear eventually 😉

          • As you obviously didn’t realise, I was being satirical. I think you do need to think about how you talk to people and get your point across though – go back over and re-read what you wrote and how they came across. The like-to-dislike ratio of your posts should help with your deduction.

            Goodbye.

          • haha I suppose it may have come across a little harsh :/ the “opinion is stupid” thing is actually a quote from a TV show. I apologize if any offense was caused, none was intended. The stubbornness of people just made me a little moody. Sorry again

            Though I thought the bath comment was kinda funny :p

          • haha I guess it might have come across as a little harsh. The “opinion is stupid” thing is actually a quote from a cartoon I watch. I apologize for any offense caused, It was not my intent. Just the bubble theoy and stubborness all over the internet today made me cranky, sorry to all concerned once again

            Though my bath comment was kinda funny in light of bubblegate no? :p

        • The bubbles don’t exactly matter.
          You never know if Greninja can choose to make the bubbles appear and disappear like most Pokémon can. A clear example would be Typhlosion and its flames.

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    • People are saying Greninja is real because Sammurott ended up being on all fours, unlike its previous forms. But Sammurott still had the shells, which were oshawott’s and dewott’s signature parts. But Greninja replaces Frogadier’s signature bubble scarf with a tongue? I don’t think so

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  27. I remember Musada saying there’s over 100 new pokemon in X and Y…
    “As with every new generation of games, new Pokémon are introduced. The total number of Pokémon will be brought up to over 750, meaning there will be at least 100 new Pokémon.” Source http://pokemondb.net/x-y

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  28. Uggh I can’t tell if they’re real or not! I keep comparing them to an image on Serebii, and they look the same! I don’t actually believe that a Flying/Fighting type would look like that, but it’s GameFreak, so… :/

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  29. The order of the Pokeballs isn’t the same in both pics (which isn’t impossible), but Hawlucha is battling a level 10 Doduo when it itself is level 63. I find that a bit odd.

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  30. Forget the text, I don’t believe that for a second. Anyone can find pictures and write some random BS.

    But that Froakie evolution pic, it looks so cool. I love the tongue scarf, so unique. If fake, good job. If real, good job.

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  31. I’m calling fake. It’s hard to say why, other than that they just…look…fake to me. I’ll be VERY surprised if they’re real.

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  32. Several things bug me
    1) Lack of bubbles…like where are they (unless the tongue scarf if hinding them)
    2) Why not show bottom half of 3DS?
    3) Why not show other 5 Pokemon in party?

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  33. I don’t understand what goes on in a person’s head to actually go out of their way to create a fake. What is wrong with these people? have they got nothing better to do? I feel bad for them 🙁 poor sad lonely people

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  34. Interesting that Greninja knows Extrasensory, which I see has also gotten a decrease in PP. I don’t know of any Fighting type Pokemon that can learn that move. So maybe Dark?

    Of course, this is just speculation if it’s real.

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  35. did anyone else realize in the picture of greninja it shows a masterball on the left. Wonder wat he used that for. I used my first masterball on a tailow and i wasn’t so smart back then…

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  36. There are several reasons why this is obviously fake: no bottom screens, lake of the bubbles on froakies evolution, it says hawlucha is holding an item called “Belt” not “expert belt”. Just. Belt. Also, the fact that no self respecting professional would go against nintendo’s wishes and risk their job just to leak a starter final evo. Also, there is no way it’s final evo won’t have part of its name having something to do with frogs in it

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        • well the word belt if analyse the image starts around the same pixels as the pokeball of the selected pokémon is so if you compare the positioning with froakies supposed evo it should have something written before belt

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          • Not really. If you compare Hawlucha’s pic with Greninja’s pic, you’ll see that there’s enough space to add “Black” before “belt.”

          • I thought about that but it might just be from the image that we are being disieved If you look at it Mysterious is a much bigger word than black and water starts just a little ahead of belt

    • Who said this was taken by a professional?
      Who even said they respect themselves? They’re doing this for us!
      THIS… is the knight in shining IDGAF armor we’ve all been waiting for!! >:D

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      • The only people who have the games now are professional game reviewers. Nintendo is taking this very seriously. I’m so sure that they won’t reveal the starters evos because Nintendo wants the players to feel like this is red and blue all over again. We all want the starters cuz we are used to the game coming out in japan 6 months or more before they come out internationally and by then we could plan out our entire team. We all need to just sit back and stop trying to ruin the experience of newness for ourselves. Don’t plan your team, don’t search the internet far and wide for “leaked starter evos”, don’t spoil yourselves past what has been officially revealed. You’ll enjoy the game much more. For me, I’m actually going to write my own pen and paper Pokedex for use in second and third etc. playthroughs

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    • I agree. I think someone is making these fakes just to stir up convo before release. Plus, that Froakie evo looks so terrible. I guess I can only hope

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  37. Froakie evolution seems really fake to me:

    1. Bubble Frog Pokemon loses all his bubbles.
    Yes that does sometimes happen, but it seems like a really strange design decision to replace his bubbles with a tongue. Especially with his pre- evos never even showing their tongues.

    2. The eyes changed their color from yellow iris to white iris. Why would they keep them the same for 2 evolutions only to change them?

    3. His head looks almost like a piece of origami. I don’t see how this would relate to either hi name or his typing.

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    • Hi. How long have you’ve been playing Pokimans sir/madame?
      I’ve been around since Red & Blue and know for a fact that ANYTHING
      is possible when it comes to evolution.
      Didn’t ya know? Game Freak enjoys the tears of its complainers. Oishi!

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    • For as much as it might hurt me to say I have to disagree with you because what you pointed out when it comes to pokemon evolving doesn’t mean a thing, they can stray very far from the evolution that precedes. It’s not that I don’t like the design but I was hoping for a different froagie I guess, but the images do seem very real

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      • So what are you basing your opinion on?
        It’s not that hard in this day and age to fake a screen especially in this poor quality.

        They have done some weird transitions in the last gen but usually starters have a very clear and logical progression and I can’t see that progresion in this final evolution at all.

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        • no you’re right it’s not hard but you have to agree they seem compellingly real do yes the quality of the imagery is poor, but you just have to search in the comments and several people have given examples of pokemons that lost there ‘trademark’ threw evolution. And yet I said it and I’ll repeat it, tough I don’t dislike the design I was expecting a different evo even for a ninja.

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          • It doesn’t even look like a ninja to me it looks more like an airplane pilot.

            I mean the ones during WW1 with that typical flying goggles and the scarf.

  38. I dont get it!!! 🙁 what does it mean any endgame?! It sounds stupid omg!!! Why the best game ever of pokemon doesnt have endgame!? Please i want ot to be fake!!! But could anybody tell me what does that mean?!

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    • that would make a lot of people happy. I was waiting for a game where every pokemon is obtainiable without having to trade from your gamboy to your ds to your 3ds to your 2ds to your wii to your xbox and so on

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    • Maybe pokemon is full of pokon and they can put more because they dont have a lot of memory for it!! But please pokemon need to make more pokemon :;(

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    • yeah because it said somewhere in a review that a lot of old pokemon are returning, one even claimed that all of the previous pokemon will be in the game

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    • I don’t think they would ever put the entire Pokedex in a game. Connecting to other players (starting with the cable link in gameboy) has always been an integral part of Pokemon…also it would make the PokeTransfer system pointless and we already know that there are version exclusives so we know there won’t be EVERY pokemon in-game

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      • maybe there would still be version exclusives like mawile in x and sableye in y and all of the other exclusive will be split between the two games

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  39. Okokok!!! Im out!! I need to do my homework and I can waste my time here!!!! I love read all the cooments here but time is the best gold!! Also My boyfriend wants to talk with me!!! Sooo see you guys! Thanks for everything I’ll be right back later!!

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  40. Look real to me. I’d be really disappointed if that was Froakie final evolution. But hey, they’re giving us the Kanto starter and Torchic for a reason you know.

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  41. Well actually, around 70-80 new Pokemon this Gen sounds plausible.
    Remember when someone checked the source coding of the japanese movie site and saw Mewtwo’s picture file name under “Mewtwo X” and people began thinking it would have two forms X and Y, all that turned out to be true.

    Now recently Nintendo have said they are going back to promoting the tag line “GOTTA CATCH EM ALL!” Now if you go to “Gottacatchemall.com” the website with the little pokeball prize games, one of the codes you enter is called “XY738A”

    or in other words : ” X and Y, 738 total Pokemon, Version A”. I will explain what I mean by version A. Firstly, if there was a total of 738 pokemon, that would mean X and Y are introducing to us 89 Pokemon which sounds like a good estimation to the leakers “70 new Pokemon”.

    I think X and Y will be the the (1 of 2) set of games for 6th Gen. I believe that the “A” in “XY738A” is a hint that we will be receiving a “B” half with another 50-60 Pokemon to complete 6th Gen around sometime next year dubbed as Gen 6.5.

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    • To be honest, I just think that’s random code. To date, gen 2 has released the least amount of Pokemon and that was 100. To suddenly have a gen with that much less than a 100 would be a bad move BUSINESS wise and let’s remember that at the end of the day GameFreak and Nintendo are business. Also, with an established franchise like Pokemon, there is no way a company would take risks like releasing an A version with 70 pokes and a B version with only 50 new pokes (why buy A version at all etc)

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      • I don’t think its a random code. Nintendo/Gamefreak like to link up there dates/codes to match what there doing. If you look at the ID/OT of any Pokemon event on the handheld games like Black 2, it matches the release date of the event. For example, Shiny Palkia was released on September 9, 2013. If you look at its ID, its 09093. The ID number for Torchic event that comes with Blazikenite item is 10123 (correlates to October 12, 13).

        Earlier this year, around January 1st or January 2nd, STRONG STRONG rumors were floating that a 6th Gen series was approaching and that a new Eeveelution would be revealed on January 8, 2013. That date would match up with

        01/08/13 = 1 Eevee, 8 Evolutions, 13th Main Series Games

        when that date came, it seemed like Nintendo knew what the fans were expected, so they did something different and instead revealed the Starters/Legendaries instead of a new eevulution. INSTEAD, Sylveon was postponed until a week and a half later – mid-jan.

        All I’m saying is I think XY738A means something and isn’t just a random code like the rest of the codes.

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  42. If this is like BW where you HAVE to catch the Legendary in order to proceed, I pity those who are picking up Y, especially if you use your newly caught Yveltal to fight a Xerneas with a type advantage 😛

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      • Not really…
        I mean, in 2nd gen, Ho-oh and Lugia didn’t have type advantages. There was a type advantage in 3rd gen, but Palkia and Dialga didn’t have a one-sided type advantage (since they’re both part Dragon type). And in fifth gen, Reshiram and Zekrom didn’t have a one-sided type advantage. They both shared Dragon, but Electric and Fire are both not very effective to Dragon types.
        Whereas, Xerneas is Fairy type, which has the advantage over Yveltal, who is Dark/Flying. Just judging by typing, Yveltal is at a significant disadvantage.

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  43. also I like the name “Frogue” better. “Greninja” doesn’t have a reference to the word “frog” anywhere, which really screams fake to me.

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  44. The name for Froakie’s final evolution seems very possible. It seems to be a mix of grenouille and ninja. ( grenouille means frog in French ) this makes a lot of sense because the Kalos region is based off of France.

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    • And now I know. I wasn’t sure where the “Gre” part of the name came from. But yeah, Kalos focusing on French is why I keep predicting “Poissonous” for the name of whatever Skrelp evolves into. “Poisson” (French for fish) + “poisonous”.

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  45. Im getting slowly sad because of all this speculation and rumors, and barely no post game is really a downer….but adding Super Sayians to pokemon is amazing i guess!

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  46. Only 70 New Pokemon… With 40 revealed so far, let’s do some math…

    +3 (Starter’s Evos), +2 (Spritzee and Swirlix Evos), +2 (Clauncher and Skrelp Evos), + 1 (Helioptile Evo), +1 (Noivern relation), +1 (Flebebe relations), +1 (Orotto Relation), +2 (Bunnelby and Denenne evolutions), +1 (Meowstic Relation), +1 (Furfrou Relation) = ~15 New ones based on Pokemon we already know. I’m not saying that all of these will get evolutions or babies (Noivern and Furfrou are debatable), but it’s just an estimate.

    That means that there’s only be 15 unrelated Pokemon when the game actually comes out? That’s hardly enough for 5 3-stage evolutions. And add Legendaries, that really only leaves room for roughly 3 new Pokemon lines being introduced. I’m not buying this rumor.

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    • Same. Hell, it was due to that I was thinking even 100 seemed low because that would still be about half the Pokemon revealed, so I was thinking maybe 120 sounds more reasonable. But 70? I don’t think Gamefreak EVER came close to revealing THREE FOURTHS of the Pokedex before the game came out.

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      • Exactly.I’d be fine with 100 personally, because that leaves 45 Pokemon we haven’t seen anything about yet, so ~10-14 new evolutionary lines and a few legendaries. I do agree that 120 is an ideal number to shoot for. That was roughly what DP had, and that game felt like it had a good balance between old and new.

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    • I wholeheartedly agree with you (thank you for doing the math by the way). Besides, I don’t have the source, but I remember they said that the # cap would exceed 750.

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          • no fighting types, admittedly though. But after Psychic, the second most type to have it is FIRE, so it’s not likely there is much of a pattern, things just kind of get it.

          • Not to mention, there are other Fighting-types that learn Psychic moves, and I’m not just talking Meditite, Medicham, and Gallade, either. Riolu learns Zen Headbutt. Lucario learns Psychic and Zen Headbutt. Poliwrath learns Psychic. Scraggy, Scrafty, and the legendary goats learn Zen Headbutt. Hell, Extrasensory used to be exclusive to Nuzleaf, of all things!

          • Just to be the devil’s advocate, Lucario is associated with Aura (or Pokemon’s version of The Force), Poliwrath is based on hypnotism, and Scraggy is big into headbutting things so they gave him all the headbutting moves.

            However, Nuzleaf is just weird 😛

            I will say that it seems like an odd move on Greninja. I get that ninja’s are mysterious, but its reasoning for getting a Psychic move via Level up doesn’t seem as solid as the other guys. Sure, Cyndaquil gets Extrasensory, but it’s an Egg Move and meant to be odd.

  47. I was promising myself to stay away from the leaks, but I caved in LOL.

    I don’t understand how anyone can think that image of Frogadier’s evolution is real when the summary shows it came in a Great Ball. Starters come in Pokeball’s not great balls.

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  48. The name for Froakie’s final evolution seems very possible. It seems to be a mix of grenouille and ninja. ( grenouille means frog in French ) this makes a lot of sense because the Kalos region is based off of France.

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  49. They could be fake, but i’ve been wanting a fighting/flying type for a while, and this Hawk/Luchador looks damn nice.

    The Froakie evo looks cool too.

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  50. Wasn’t there an embargo set for final starter evolutions, and that was after the games come out. I mean, if this is true, someone’s going to jail…

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        • No! Not your comment! I was commenting on the “leaker’s” decision. Is it really worth it to get into legal trouble so that you can satisfy the pokemon community’s insatiable thirst for leaks? Gamefreak really wants us to relieve the red and blue experience, so I think we should respect that. We are acting kind of entitled, you know?

          Sorry if you thought I was insulting you. There is no need to get so defensive, though. No one’s gonna bite you. It was just a small misunderstanding of words, and poor writing on my part.

          And yes, there is an embargo on final evolutions, until the 4th of october, I believe.

          So, let’s move on and keep talking about Pokemon!

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        • I don’t know what happened to my other comment, I am not insulting you, so don’t worry. I was commenting about the “leaker.” Is it really worth it to get into legal trouble in order to satisfy the pokemon community’s insatiable thirst for leaks? If Game freak wants us to relieve the red and blue days and really hype us up, then we need to respect that. They are the ones that make and provide us with these awesome games. We are being entitled and just plain being pieces of ungrateful poopies.

          Again, sorry if I insulted you. No need to get so defensive! No one’s gonna bite you. Don’t worry!

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    • Yeah because leaking ome pokemon pics will send you to jail……
      If they even get the leaker I think the worst he would face would be a Cease and Desist order and a fine.

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  51. I feel like it’s fake because it’s too pandering. Showing a starter evo and a Fighting/Flying type which everyone wants. Looking back at when the Black/White pokedex leaked, people were upset and complained b/c so much was stuff they didn’t want (ie third Fire/Fighting starter in a row)…Just my two cents

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    • Well, Tongue scarf here is garnering a lot dislike, and definitely not a direction anyone every would have guessed. Not saying that’s proof, but just pointing out. Much like Dewott to Samurott, really.

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  52. The name for Froakie’s final evolution seems very possible. It seems to be a mix of grenouille and ninja. ( grenouille means frog in French ) this makes a lot of sense because the Kalos region is based off of France.

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  53. I’ve always wanted to see a Fighting/Flying type! I sure hope this rumor is true! I would be really happy if they had a Pokémon that has an ability that allows it to ignore a foe’s immunities! Then again, it IS hard to believe that the Pokémon in one of the pictures was an official final evolution of Froakie since heavymetallamb stated that it came in a Great Ball, and starters do not come in Great Balls.

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  54. I don’t like the artwork for the Froakie evolution. It looks too cheesy. I’m not trusting this although I would love a flying/fighting type!

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    • but you know I disagree I think if it’s real than that’s the exact reason they won’t or shouldn’t take it down, that’s almost as good as they saying that it’s real…

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  55. I’m less annoyed at Froakie’s final evolution design and more annoyed that it can learn Extrasensory, hoping that the Fennekin line is the only starter this gen with a Psychic sidetype.

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  56. How come the summaries of Chespin and Torchic are a nice brown color, but these new summaries have white backgrounds?

    And you would’ve thought that someone with a review copy and access to internet etc would have a great camera to use and not uploading some blurry looking crappy fakes. I don’t care if I’m offending anyone that wants them to be real, but I’m not buying it. There fake to me. They don’t scream Sugimori designs and the alleged frogadier evolution is drastically a complete new Pokemon, it didn’t retain any of its old features.

    I’ve read two people say they have review copies of the games and cannot leak any images until after October 4th or so and have signed on NDA’s. Why leak them now at the end of Sept?

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    • The summary background looks the same to me. It’s just the quality of the picture.

      In regards to your last paragraph, it’s called being a rebel and leaking the info 😉

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    • Not that I’m saying they aren’t fake, but uh, roughly same color scheme, continuation of the spikes on the eyes, now more pronounced, similar shape and pose, and same style of feet and hands, this “Pokemon” definitely retains those features. Besides, REALLY shouldn’t say things like that, because Samurott. That obviously isn’t a problem for Gamefreak to change things heavily.

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      • Yeah I actually feel bad bashing the design’s so hard. People after closer inspection, Frogadier’s evo isn’t actually that bad and does retain the spikes on the eyes as you say. I had pulled the two pics of and compared them side by side and thought… maybe it could evolve into this. Its actually not bad at all and I think its caught in the animation of twirling its tongue around

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        • Honestly, that close side of the face, the really heavy white spike, really feels off to me. Nor why it appearently is dark blue on the other side of the spike, that as a design standpoint seems weird for this particularly design. Just, I’m waiting because the tongue thing. It seems weirdly plausible, and something that no one has done before when doing the fakes, because no one would THINK of doing that, seemingly, unless this person banked on that, and did so. That’s what leads me to believe it could be real, honestly. The Tongue.

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          • Same here. The tongue (possibly wrapped in animation) and the spikes behind the eyes is what made me start warming up to it and believing its real. I thought it was in a great ball at first but didn’t realize the summary now show all the pokeballs in a team. Pretty cool.

    • the only thing I have to point out about what you said is that those images we saw of the summaries don’t mean much as it says in every trailer and everywhere else that it’s subject to change, they could have changed the color, or it even be an option to change it…

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      • Yeah I think there still brown, I just think the pic quality is low enough to make them seem white lol. I need some HQ shots. I’m not too fond of the bird still but I actually quite like the frogadier evo

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  57. this is pure fake i mean look at greninja it doesnt even have the bubbles on the back and i heard lots of rumors that the bubbles will get longer on the back and stuff like that and i heard that he will get darker and so on and a the other one looks like it culd actualy be real so i just dont beleve greninja

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  58. Greninja is the pokeball that’s sticking out it’s obvious and there’s a masterball so it has to be either Xerneas or Yveltal or a new legendary because Greninjas level is 66

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  59. Yea… I’m pretty sure they’re not going in the direction of a overly sized tongue scarf! And the Hawk..Lucha fighter, Where’s the connection between those two things??

    I know the imaging can almost look real.. But we all know how well people have pull it off before and had been confirmed fake!

    One last thing, they added too many uncomplimentary pieces to that 2nd froakie evo!

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  60. I’m seriously confused… Last year I remembered being terrified emboar would be real but now I like it. There seems to be a pattern with Pokemon, amazing starters, amazing legendaries but the final evolutions of the starters change a lot. The images look really real. I was never going to pick froakie anyway, but I am disappointed. The tongue scarf is slightly creepy and perhaps a bit too creative. But apart from that, one thing really scares me about this rumour, which is the small amount of new pokemon. These games have seemed AMAZING lately, with a new type, mega evolution, 3d graphics, two great legendaries. But the small amount of new pokemon would really hinder this game. Mega evolved pokemon to me are more like half a pokemon, than a full one, so making less pokemon because the meg for it doesn’t work for me. But, it seems sense that there will be less pokemon this year, because there will be a lot of older pokemon in the regional dex, which can be inferred to mean less pokemon. As if these old pokemon are just there to fill up the empty space. And if you think about how mega evolutions are only available to pokemon from older regions, that also supports this argument. But, as people have already stated, the pictures and the text may be separate. I just hope that this was Greninjas little animation, on which it wraps itself with its tongue, concealing its bubbles, and then puts it’s tongue back in its mouth. Can’t wait for the 12 th 🙂

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  61. I really want to know will past generation pokemon get evolution eevee cant be the only pokemon to evolve someone has to leak pictures like this like an official Dunsparce evolution not mega

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  62. The word “Water” next to froakie’s water moves in official screenshot looks like a different font than the one on his so called final evolution. The official ones have more squared letters yet here the “a” is pointed. The hawk thing could be real but I don’t believe the text or the froakie evo.

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  63. T_T
    From the guy who sent me the Hawklucha pic. . .
    “ok sorry brothat was a bad joke from me
    i used photoshop and all haha sorry it was so funny
    bye”

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  64. OKAY! Now I’m CONVINCED their real. IT IS BEYOND BEAUTIFUL IN HQ. The low quality shot didn’t do this Pokemon JUSTICE AT ALL. It is def going on my team, Flying/Fighting. Its a spin on a “high flying wrestler”, a mexican one, lucha libre!! AHHH MY BODY IS READY

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  65. Look i hate the final evo but here how it can be fake and real
    how its real
    We seen this before the fianl evos of gen 5 were leaked way before it
    It kinda matches the leak Description
    How its fake
    Froakie main thing was foam bubbles around it neck losing doesn’t make him froakie EVO line
    It look photoshopped

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    • well he could have photoshoped a simple image and with the right ambient light and photo configuration, as in angle and etc he could achieve that without to much photoshop skills

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          • Well, of course.
            But he’d get the same attention if he’d left the name Quilladin.
            It just seems like it’d be pointless.

          • The whole thing is pointless i don’t get why this one tiny bit makes you question it.

            If he is editing the image anyway adding a new name isn’t much trouble at all.

          • Because no one just photoshops nicknames onto their pokemon. . . .
            That’s why it seems suspicious.
            None of the pictures he’s revealed we have seen outside of his leaks. . .
            There;s a reason why.

          • Ok believe what you want, but i don’t get your logic at all.
            So noone else photoshops the nicknames of their pokemon?
            And?^^ What is so special about that? If I photoshop a pink hat on the head of a fakemon does it have to be legit because “noone would ever do that”?

          • . . .
            Okay, your attempt to make me seem “Gullible” was quite childish. . .
            The difference between your Pink Hat and my nickname is the fact that the attention would have been given if his name was Quilladin. No one goes out of their way to add a nickname to a fake leak.

          • Why? Just because you repeat it doesn’t make it more true.
            He could have done it jut for fun and you take it as unquestionable proof that this has to be true because… noone would do that… Yeah maybe he would so now what?

          • I’m not saying what he’s shown us is absolutely proof, but I think it’d be odd to reveal pics, we’ve never seen before I might add, then come out and say it was photoshopped.
            Where did he get such a Perfect picture of “Hawklucha”?
            These are all things you’ve gotta think about. Especially this close to the reveal. We all know these people aren’t supposed to leak this info. And the way I see it is, he revealed it, FAR more people than he expected saw it, and said it was “fake”.
            They do it everytime a new game comes out.

          • The “Badger” Pokemon you just showed me isn’t even in the same 3D model as the other pokes.
            The Hawklucha he showed us was pretty good quality.
            That “badger” was horribly and quite obviously Photoshopped.

          • Ok I don’t see any difference whatsoever. The first Hawklucha pics look exactly the same quality as the badger and the new one is just a 2d drawing. How would that be hard to photosop onto a 3ds screen?

  66. I freakin’ love Hawklucha!…i mean, come on, Flying/Fighting is a new and great combination, also, it reminds me a Mexican wrestler!…A luchar, compadre! xD…love it.

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  67. I don’t really want to spam the comments with this image, but is there a possibility the person who faked both these pokemon also might’ve faked this?

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    ╚╝───╚═╝╚══╝╚══╝╚╝╚╝╚══╝ Someone tell me if it is fake or not!>

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  69. “This smells an awful lot like a hasty cover-up attempt. For what it’s worth, I checked the images with one of those jpeg compression analyzer things, and there wasn’t any kind of weird distortion around the pokemons (or anywhere else, for that matter). Our leaker here would have to be a pretty damn good photoshopper if these were indeed fake, since I can’t find any weird parts in the images and the style of the pokemon matches the official pokes’ looks’, not to mention that the blurriness of the pokes seems to match that of the background elements.”

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    • I’m not technologically advanced but some people that are are analyzing the pics and can’t seem to find any trace of it being “photoshoppped” etc.

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    • Plus, the guy’s claiming of how fake they are is… inconsistant.

      “im not a good artist i know
      i took the bird for the previous fake leak and just create something messing up with the color lol”

      Uh? WHAT Previous Fake Leak? We’ve never seen this bird before, and just messing with color?

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  70. I just woke up and immediately checked Pokejungle. Saw “X & Y SPOILERS” I couldn’t resist 🙁

    These seem to be real but WWHHY couldn’t he/she have started with Chespin!!!???

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  71. “He also mentioned that XY only introduce around 70 new Pokémon. He also said that there barely is any endgame, with you only being able to catch Mewtwo and the Z legendary.”

    That’s not so good 🙁 These games have so much potential!!!

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      • -aerodactyle will have a megaevo
        -exp.share can be activate to share exp with ALL Pokémon in the team
        -some place have 3d actually but overworld is 90% without it
        -teamflare uses a lot of houndour / zubat etc. classic Pokémon from rival team
        -circlepad=rollerskate / direction buttons=running
        -you can choose 4 obj to be used with Y
        -pokedex is 3d so be sure to slide up the 3d slider!
        -binacle is n.21 Pokémon in the coast pkdx, its like a sea creatures with two heads -anemon I think their called?- (i guess its evolution will have three…) and its rock/water

        This was the text the really convincing now proclaimed faker put out

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  72. I hope this isn’t like black and white, how the final evolutions are drastically different from the 1st and 2nd stages. When the leaked Samurott, emboar, and serperior were revealed as true I was sooo mad because I thought emboar and samurott were too ugly to be true so I didn’t want to believe it. (I still do not like samurott or emboar). I just hope this is a bad fake and froakie evolves into a BA looking frog that’s not ugly like this one is.

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      • I’m just not a fan of it’s mustache and conchshell horn. It doesn’t even look like an otter anymore. It could also be that I was really mad samurott turned out to be a pure type because I hate pure types. So maybe that made me biased against it’s design. I do like serperior though.

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  73. Really fakemon popped up every and like all the time and they can be real or fake but when the leaker says it fake it fake and if we got a leaker whos say it real im not trusting them.

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    • But we can’t trust them if they say it is fake: maybe they are trying to seem like amazing Photoshoppers and gain fans in these last two weeks.

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  74. I used to not like Froakie much. But now I’m liking him more and more 🙂 The supposed evo in this article’s picture actually looks really neat I think. But so does that other fan-made one. Arghhh can’t decide if I’d like a fighting or flying more! Even though flying is my favorite type, I was kinda hoping for fighting. But the pic almost changes my mind. Maybe it uses its “tongue scarf” to grapple onto things? I don’t know but that’d be pretty cool. Who else started off not liking
    Froakie but then changed the more you learned about him?

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  75. I think the only lie the leaker’s fed us is that they’re fake. General consensus on Pokebeach seems to be that the guy’s trying to weasel out of potential trouble with Nintendo by claiming to have faked this stuff.

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  76. Why the f**k do Froakie and Fennekin keep getting the “leaked” evolutions? We got the Froakie evolution with the dark spots (confirmed fake), the one here with the tongue scarf. We got the Fennekin evolution with the stick (confirmed fake), and one posted in the comments here with a witch hat. Gimme a Chespin final evolution people!!!

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  77. I don’t care if the pictures above are real or fake (heck, I’m all for them being real). But I know for certain the text is incorrect. I read an interview in which Masuda said there would be over 750 Pokemon total. And, don’t quote me on this but, I believe I read him saying there was a massive endgame.

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  78. Don’t know why I am not able to reply to posts, but

    @Dicie
    I don’t know what happened to my other comment, I am not insulting you, so don’t worry. I was commenting about the “leaker.” Is it really worth it to get into legal trouble in order to satisfy the pokemon community’s insatiable thirst for leaks? If Game freak wants us to relieve the red and blue days and really hype us up, then we need to respect that. They are the ones that make and provide us with these awesome games. We are being entitled and just plain being pieces of ungrateful poopies.

    Again, sorry if I insulted you. No need to get so defensive! No one’s gonna bite you. Don’t worry!

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    • Oh, well I’m sorry about that. I was in no means to offend you. Just BTW, since someone is always downvoting my comments, I try to stay away from commenting. 😐

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      • Dicie…*sigh*
        Downvotes don’t matter. Hell, even upvotes don’t matter! It’s the conversation that counts! Please, stop limiting yourself because of this!

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          • Dicie, you should have seen the amount of grieving yesterday when you left. The only thing that is happening is, you are improving people’s day!

          • I’m improving SOME people’s days, as now even more people are downvoting. For me, downvotes mean that people don’t appreciate my comments and they can do without me. I’ll be thinking about leaving again. No one can change my mind about thinking, because I feel like some people can do better without me. 😐

          • There’s a thing on the internet, Dicie. It’s called trolling. When people appreciate you on the inside, they decide to go against their heart and do EXACTLY THE WRONG THING.

          • And I feel offended by that. Why stick around and ruin others’ days and let them step on me and troll me? I don’t need that kind of cyberbullying and stress.

          • If you don’t want to take what I am saying into consideration, and I am really trying here, then I’m afraid I cannot deter you. We respect your decisions, so if you want to leave, then leave.

          • Aww. No, I don’t want you to think that. I’m just trying to get the trolls away and to give myself a clearer mind. It seems like it’s working, but it’ll most likely return. I appreciate your advice nonetheless, and I don’t want to leave, but I am a bit stressed out. I won’t leave, but that’s all thanks to your advice. 🙂

          • You can always take a breather, Dicie, and leave the site for a couple days, but you have made yourself a new identity on this website, as have I. We cannot just drop it.

          • Actually, if you are stressed then it’s okay to get off the computer for a while. But please don’t think that you are not welcome here! If something is bothering me in the internet, I do that too, but I get back on once I am feeling better. Not exactly to the same thing, but something else, something that will make me happy.

          • That is great advice. Thank you so much. You’ve lifted a lot of stress off my back knowing this. I’ll start doing things that make me happy, and no matter what, I won’t leave, because I love the community. 😀

          • You see those one or two people following you around and downvoting your comments? Think of how much time of their day they are wasting on YOUR behalf.

          • Yeah, I’ve seen them since THIS MORNING. Constant downvoting. And you do make a point. This conversation is so close to the bottom of the page and rather than participating in the PokeConversations, they think it’s worthy of their time to downvote me all day just to get me pissed and get rid of me. But you’re making me realize how f*cking stupid and time-wasting that is.

      • No worries! Don’t let the downvotes affect you, they are not THAT important! The conversation is what’s important (hint: YOUR input!)

        So let’s keep on talking about Pokemon!

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  79. My Theory is, people like to troll others, so making some amazing fakes seems to be a good idea for example my brother photo shopped a perfect looking shiny into a battle of Tauros, Just saying its easy to use photo shop if you have the skill…

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  80. This is even more fake. Remember Froakie is the Bubble Frog Pokémon. It’s evolutions should keep that trait. I doubt Froakie would lose it. Also, Masuda said there will be lots of Pokémon Also, a large post-game. So, these rumors really are fake. (The bird looks awful too).

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      • Well, it certainly makes things interesting. This person was leaking images on Pokebeach forums of things we’ve never seen before, giving a lot of credibility. When these images went viral, he backtracked and said they’re all photoshopped.

        Someone on neogafs then said: “For what it’s worth, I checked the images with one of those jpeg compression analyzer things, and there wasn’t any kind of weird distortion around the pokemons (or anywhere else, for that matter).Our leaker here would have to be a pretty damn good photoshopper if these were indeed fake, since I can’t find any weird parts in the images and the style of the pokemon matches the official pokes’ looks’, not to mention that the blurriness of the pokes seems to match that of the background elements.”

        Now this leaker has deleted all of his pictures. And WPM said his IP is from Italy.

        I think these were legit, and the leaker was afraid of getting caught by Nintendo. Gah, and just when we were so close to seeing Chespin’s final evolution.

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        • Not to mention that the person who commented on PokeBeach does not have much credibility to begin with. Why would somebody who is not already famous be posting such amazing Photoshops and expect people to believe them?

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  81. I actually really like the Luchador Hawk. The anemone thing and the froakie evolution don’t appeal to me as much and the number of new pokemon is seriously disappointing if true, but I’d be happy if the hawk were real. The only downside is that despite being a luchador, it doesn’t look quite enough like Strong Bad for me to get away with nicknaming one that.

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  82. Even though that new deep sea tube pokemon is something that I would find as a interesting pokemon, the style and basically everything is off, I’m not talking about how the designs on Emboar looked off, I’m saying one look and I’m like yup.. That’s clearly fake.
    I will admit Hawlucha’s design is similar to a normal Sugimori style.

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  83. I came back here because I heard this and my heart just sank into my stomach and tears are about to come out of my eyes: “He also mentioned that XY only introduce around 70 new Pokémon. He also said that there barely is any endgame, with you only being able to catch Mewtwo and the Z legendary.” I wanted to know what everyone else thought about this. I think the information is fake but the images are real… This is getting scary. Reviewers disobeying Nintendo. 🙁

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    • I really wish people (in general not just you) would at least try to read some comments (maybe in Best mode) to get an idea of the things that have been said as to not be so repititive, just my opinion

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  84. This community is really weird.

    New leak comes out. Everyone argues if it is real or not.

    Leaker says it was all a fake.

    “Now that confirms it is real!”

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  85. I’m baffled. 2 hours ago I was calling everything fake.

    1 hour ago better quality’s leaked and I loved them all.

    now there saying their fake and i’m gutted, I was hoping the Lucha bird turned out to be real. To me it seems like this guy is trying to cover up his dirt so he won’t get in trouble. These people sign on NDA’s.

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  86. I honestly think these are real. Back then, when the final Evolutions of the Gen V Starters were leaked, everyone called them fake. Somebody even claimed he faked them and posted pictures how he took parts from all kinds of Pokémon and what happened in the end? They were real. =P

    You never know and these screens look too real to be fakes. =/

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      • Therefore, why would he set himself up like this? I mean, he could have stayed anonymous and walked away in the first place, but he made a promise and now he is unsure.

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      • And I think he made the “it’s all fake post” look as unconvincing as possible to see everything explode the way it did.
        It’s kinda funny that all he needed to do to convince so many people that were sceptical at first was to say it was fake.

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    • I have to say, this is the weirdest set of leaks/fakes ever. Mostly because his explanation of how everything is fake didn’t really match what was posted, nor did it explain the OW screen. This will probably be a day we wont’ forget for awhile.

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  87. I’m still not convinced that the Froakie final evo isn’t fake. But I’m like 90% on Hawklucha, although I’m not getting attached either way. If Hawklucha is real, great, if not oh well

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  88. Oh god. Oh god. I can barely breathe. All of this info about barely any aftergame and just Mewtwo and the Z Legendary to be caught and only 70 Pokemon overall is upsetting. Someone is toying with our emotions! I hope the idiot comes clean!

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  89. I hope the last image at least is fake. I mean, come on, that’s the fugliest thing I have ever seen! It’ s like two potato faced french-fry anenomes emerging out a pasty.

    The other two, the Hawk and Froakster evolution are actually pretty interesting though.

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  90. no but seriously, I’m not sure why people hate this design so much, it looks cool as heck to me. (although to draw it, I had to look at the picture a lot closer and now I seriously suspect that this is a fake, since it seems to have more feathers on one wing than the other)

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    • the first LQ image of it I saw I hated it.

      then I saw the MQ image of it in-game and I loooooooved it.

      Hawlucha (portmanteau of Hawk and Lucha Libre), it has the coloring/style of a mexican wrestler. I NEED IT FOR MY TEAM. IF THIS POKE DOESNT TURN OUT TO BE TRUE I WILL RETURN MY X GAME

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  91. Who else thinks we will get Mega Evolutions for Kalos Pokemon in the sequel/remakes? Sycamore found out the secret to Mega Evolution and made Mega stones! The bad guys are after him and we have to save Sycamore! 😀

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  92. That literally looks like a pie with worms sticking out of it. WTF. I pray these are fake. Please be some horrible dream and that I wake up from it soon

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  93. Honestly, if all this is fake, which there is a good chance of, that’s fine. And I know why people release fake stuff too. But, I just don’t get why the guy would take down everything, and more importantly, why doesn’t he tell us how he did it? Someone did that for the Mink, right? I mean, show us how they photoshopped the Overworld Screenshot for image, how they made all the details.

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    • I don’t get why there are so many “leaks” that reveal nothing because of their poor quality. If you have the game physically in your hands, what is stopping you from going to the status menu and taking a few pictures until you get a nice clear one. All these small pictures and odd angles just cry fake and that someone is using the excuse of a bad picture to hide their failed attempt at a good leak.

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  94. One of these leaks are fake, because I am certain that Froakie will evolve into a water-fighting type Pokemon. That being said, I have yet to see a fighting type Pokemon with the ability to learn psychic type moves such as extrasensory.

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  95. Froakie Without Bubbles was the smoking gun… Seriously Don’t give me that “Confirmed” BS, sometimes when someone saying something is fake THEY MEAN IT!!! Plus a Large Post Game ALREADY CONFIRMED!!! *rolls eyes* I’m sorry but how gullible can you be…….

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  96. Okay. I’ve come to the conclusion. I am no longer looking at anything on these games until the release date, because the amount of fake crap that is being thrown around helps no one. I’d rather just start the games up fresh.

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  97. I pray to my lord Arceus that this info with the pictures is fake. Because seriously, ONLY 70 Pokemon introduced? Barely any aftergame? My heart sank. I remember hearing another rumor that the Kalos aftergame would be the size of G/S Kanto. And then we have this rumor saying the only things to do are catch Mewtwo and the Z Legendary! I think this guy is seriously trying to piss people off with all of this and the french fry barnacle whatever the hell it is Pokemon proves it. He made people sorta happy with the Flying/Fighting type Pokemon bird. Now he’s backfiring on us.

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    • That is likely real. I think that Italian chick posted that picture and that another person is just backing it up with fake bullshit. I really think the text and photos are unrelated.

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    • The stones are clearly from this area here. However, whilst I think it looks great, it has made me sad because it gives more credence to the other pictures released alongside it being true – and I really don’t want them to be real.

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    • The stones are clearly from this area here. However, whilst I think it looks great, it has made me pretty sad though because it gives more credence to the other pictures released alongside it being true – and I really don’t want them to be real.

      EDIT: Sorry about posting the picture twice. My mistake.

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    • That is probably unrelated to the rest of the images on here. I think someone is photoshopping images to go along with these and claiming it is theirs just to make them more credible with the info they post with the pictures. It really bugs the crap out of me that people are this mean!

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  98. Please let the 70 Pokemon and barely any aftergame be FAKE! If it isn’t, I may seriously boycott Pokemon X and Y. The games had so much potential and Game Freak just decided to waste it with this if it’s real.

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  99. Someone posted this on 4chan a lil’ while ago because of all the random leaks
    and I found it absolutely hilarious.

    “Fuck these threads and fuck this board, why do I come here?”

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  100. Seeing that Greninja knows Aerial Ace, it got me thinking how Chespin is confirmed to know this move as well. Then I thought how hilarious it is that Quilladin will know this move. Remember, Chespin has been reported to be a really slow Pokemon, and judging by Quilladin’s appearance…it doesn’t look any faster. Yet, this thing can learn Aerial Ace, which is “an extremely speedy and unavoidable attack.” xD

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  101. Why do I even bother with information that is likely used to toy with our emotions? Lol. This almost made me cry with information that is just unimaginable and just completely ridiculous if this information was released in May or something. Lol. I HOPE TO ARCEUS that we do not have just 70 Pokemon and a HUGE aftergame. 🙁

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  102. I hope that froakie evo is fake, the whole scarf made out of its tongue thing is just nasty. Plus neither Froakie of Frogadier had any emphasis on their tongues being important, so it seems kinda silly that it would be a big deal now.

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  103. the leaker said he was a fake on pokebeach i posted this on pokebeach but i heard from 4chan that bomboad quillance and valaixen were the final evos of the starters

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  104. I forget to check pokejungle for a couple of hours and come back to see all hell breaking loose. Wow that’s quite some info to process. Here’s what I think:

    -70 new pokes only!!! Fake! The dex is divided into three parts, don’t think that’s possible with only 70.
    -Not much endgame? All interviews agreed that there is supposed to stuff to do after the game => Fake!
    -Froakie’s third evo “thing”… Not sure… I liked than fan made one more, though this does look kinda more “fight’ish”. No fight moves? Weird.
    Fly/Fight poke, interesting combo. If true, I think the stats would focus on speed and attack.

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  105. I have a question: have we seen the move Extrasensory in another Pokemon’s move page image, because if not, there is no way the Greninja is fake.

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  106. Did anyone else notice the difference in sizes of the feathers and the number of feathers on each wing from the flying/fighting pokemon?

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  107. Anyone can start rumors. Anyone can have information they claim to be real or fake and are unable to be disproven until otherwise. The internet is truly a cruel place. I think we just need to wait and see for ourselves what the games have in store. 😀

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  108. Anyone can make up rumors, it’s easy.

    Lol. In fact, here’s some rumors I made up:

    “Spritzee has an evolution called spriflamino. its type is fairy/flying, and it evolves at level 20. There’s a new battle frontier that opens up in the east of kalos when you complete the game. the elite four specialize in: fire, ground, dragon, and ice.”

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    • that’s why photographs that seem genuine are more reliable than text that seems genuine. as you’ve demonstrated, anyone can take on the IAMTHELEAKER role of making stuff up and polishing their words

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    • Yes, anyone can make up rumors. I don’t see you posting extremely believable screenshots to go along with that, and then poorly explain how your just photoshopped them.

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    • Let me try that:

      There is a new fire/ground mole pokemon with flames coming out of its nose and tail that evolves into a larger mole with beady red eyes with larger claws with two flames coming out of its back. There is also a new Pokemon with long sharp blade like arms with leaves covering its eyes and legs. The sixth gym is ice and the gym leader is female with a poofy white dress and an icicle necklace.

      What do you think of my fake rumors :D?

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      • They’re just as believable as the rumors about Trusk and whatnot. I think it should be made clear just how easy it is for anyone to randomly make up things and pass them off as possible truths

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    • oh whoops, didn’t realize that people were bombarding the comments with these, a lot happens when you leave for a few minutes to draw something.

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  109. Here is another rumour:
    There will be a water/ice pokemon that is based off a dolphin.
    Dunsparce WILL get a mega evolution and it will be normal/fairy.
    Also, the train will take you to Team Flare’s Secret Hideout.
    Jk XD.

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  110. No but in true honesty, I wish they would stop revealing these things (without significant proof) Video would have been amazing to see XD

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  111. Can we all just face it! These pics are REAL!
    Remember Black & White? It’s like every new Gen starts a war.
    Here’s some evidence. Maybe you’ll see the blatant similarities
    between the past and the future! PokéJungle•net is even in there!

    http://wottergate.tumblr.com/

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  112. Maybe the photos are real and the info/rumours are false…. Surely with the review copies only just coming out they couldn’t have finished them yet??

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  113. I personally love the Froakie evolution!, and the Eagle thing is awesome, but that barnacle pie looking mother fu****, the text is fake and there is proof to why (specifically with Junichi Masuda stating there would be over 750 pokemon after this game) and the End game would be significantly better than last time

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  114. Where did Junichi Masuda state there would be over 750 Pokemon? WHERE? I want to know. It’s probably just here say though from a denier.

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  115. This post is just exploding. I think the three screenshots in the overworld of the Pokemon Center and stuff are 100% confirmed. But the rest can easily be real or photoshopped. We may never know till October 12th.

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  116. These are my list of moves that I think will get retconned into fairy. Like in Gen 2 when “Bite” went from a Normal to a Dark type attack.

    RETCONNED FAIRY MOVES

    Lunar Dance
    Lovely Kiss
    Charm
    Attract
    Captivate
    Wish
    Sweet Kiss
    Morning Sun
    Transform
    Heal Bell
    Perish Song
    Lucky Chant
    Minimize
    Moonlight
    Softboiled
    Covet
    Healing Wish
    Teeter Dance
    Metronome
    Sing

    NEW FAIRY moves

    Baby Doll Eyes
    Moonblast
    Moon Dance
    Fairy Wind
    Fairy Dust
    Draining Kiss
    Glow Punch
    Child’s Play
    Geomancy

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  117. The hawk looks legit to me. Maybe I’m a little bias because a Garuda Pokemon would be pretty cool.

    I’m not sure about Greninja because it doesn’t take very many design cues from the previous evolutions at all. It loses the bubble scarf, a defining feature that it had as Froakie and Frogadier, and gains a giant tongue… that it uses as a scarf. Creative for sure, but it seems impractical. It also loses the white button spots on its nose. If the final evo was going to lose those in the first place, why did Froakie and Frogadier have them in the first place? It’s more like GF to have them “evolve” into something than erase them.

    The other screenshots look legit, though….

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      • Well, yeah, in design it’s cool. Maybe when I see official artwork, I’ll like it more (as usual). The pink scarf is a lot less cool than a scarf of bubbles, though.

        I’m not really looking at it from a cool standpoint, though. I’m just wondering how Frogadier evolved into this.

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    • People have noted themes change sometimes. Squirtle and Wartortle both have fluffy tails, wartortle getting fluffy ears, and they lose them. Chikorita and Bayleef both have a head leaf, which suddenly loses it to having antenna. Crazy things happen.

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      • True, which is why it could still be legit. I just feel too many defining features of the evolutionary line were left out here.

        -bubbles scarf gone
        -white nose spots gone
        -dark blue coverage completely gone

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  118. And this is my updated list of Pokemon that I think will get retconned into fairy. I’m not saying all of these will come true, its just the ones that I feel have the potential too. I know it seems like a lot of fairies but I think it makes sense as seeing that a lot should exist by now since we are on gen 6. This will cause the online competitive scene to be shaken up quite a lot, and if they introduce atleast 50 Mega’s, and about 10 new fairies in 6th gen online scene would be crazily unpredictable and fun.

    Cleffa, Clefairy, Clefable | Normal/Fairy
    Igglybuff, Jigglypuff, Wigglytuff | Normal/Fairy
    Happiny, Chansey, Blissey | Normal/Fairy
    Audino | Normal/Fairy
    Azurill | Normal/Fairy
    Marill, Azumarill | Water/Fairy
    Togepi | Normal/Fairy
    Togetic, Togekiss | Flying/Fairy
    Snubbull, Granbull | Normal/Fairy
    Skitty, Delcatty | Normal/Fairy
    Mawile | Steel/Fairy
    Dunsparce | Normal/Fairy
    Plusle & Minun | Electric/Fairy
    Castform | Normal/Fairy
    Alomomola | Water/Fairy
    Glalie | Ice/Fairy
    Bellossom | Grass/Fairy
    Politoed | Water/Fairy
    Pachirisu | Electric/Fairy
    Cherubi, Cherrim | Grass/Fairy
    Phione, Manaphy | Water/Fairy
    Cottonee, Whimsicott | Grass/Fairy
    Petilil, Lilligant | Grass/Fairy
    Azelf, Uxie, Mesprit | Psychic/Fairy
    Misdreavus, Mismagius | Ghost/Fairy
    Shuppet, Bannette | Ghost/Fairy
    Bonsly, Sudowoodo | Rock/Fairy
    Mew | Psychic/Fairy
    Mime Jr, Mr. Mime | Psychic/Fairy
    Spinda | Normal/Fairy
    Buneary, Lopunny | Normal/Fairy
    Mincinno, Cincinno | Normal/Fairy
    Gardevoir | Psychic/Fairy
    Volbeat, Illumise | Bug/Fairy
    Munna, Musharna | Psychic/Fairy
    Luvdisc | Water/Fairy
    Gothita, Gothorita, Gothitelle | Psychic/Fairy
    Finneon, Lumineon | Water/Fairy
    Milotic | Water/Fairy
    Cresselia | Psychic/Fairy
    Darkrai | Dark/Fairy
    Raichu | Electric/Fairy
    Meloetta | Fairy/Psychic, Fairy/Fighting

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  119. Ok, well I think we’ve milked this topic for all its worth. This topic has officially gone to “off-topic” land..I’m peacing out until the next rumor. Later!!

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  120. THAT MOMENT WHEN YOU REALIZE X AND Y WAS HINTED AT IN THIRD GEN YEARS AGO:

    ASH TRAVELED WITH MAY AND MAX

    ma Y and ma X

    THe only difference in there names is x and y

    HOLY MILTANK

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  121. So.. These look real to me.. Some part of me says “NO.” But a bigger part of me says “Ew.” If these are real, I’m not really a fan of the coral things popping out of a meringue pie.. Or whatever that is. ._.

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    • I believe it’s supposed to be a tubeworm? They’re not the most glamorous creatures in real life, but points to GameFreak for creativity, I suppose

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  122. So I’ve been thinking about the Dual typed moves rumor and the move Freeze Dry. Somebody earlier pointed out that Freeze Dry is probably what was meant by dual typed moves. Not a move that has two types, but a move that shouldn’t normally be effective against a certain type, but is (Freeze Dry > Water).

    So I thought about the latest CoroCoro where there was a ??? next to the moves for Geomancy and Oblivion Wing. We already know they’re a Fairy type and Dark type attack respectively. Since there were question marks though, many speculated these moves could be dual typed attacks.

    Here’s my theory: I think Geomancy and Oblivion Wing will have an effect similar to Freeze Dry, where they’re also SE against another type. I think Oblivion Wing will be SE against Fairy, to give Yveltal some form of advantage over Xerneas. And since I have a strong feeling the “Z” Legendary will be Poison, I think Geomancy will be SE against Poison.

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  123. IDEK why but the picture of the Froakie evo screams fake to me.
    For one, it doesn’t match the design of Froakie and Frogadier and it’s missing the bubble collar.

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  124. We already know that the pokedex is going to be split up into three parts. After THAT, how is possible that there are only 70 new pokemon?

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  125. I actually really dislike the fact that Emolga seems poised to be part of the Kalos Dex. Nothing was more annoying to me in Black and White than trying to find Audinos for EXP and running into an Emolga that refused to let me escape from battle. I really really hope that doesn’t happen again in X and Y…

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  126. So the text was determined fake but not the pictures? Alright I can live with that.

    The Pokemon themselves…do they look too spritey to anyone else? 3D models are pretty hard to fake, so that’s usually your first clue. That text even looks like it’s straight out of B/W. I like the Pokemon’s designs except for Froakie’s final evolution, the hawk is BADASS.

    Can anyone tell what the character is supposedly riding on?

    I’m sorry guys…it still LOOKS really fake to me. I hope new images show soon to determine any legitimacy for this stuff.

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  127. I like the thought of Flying Press. I think it’s gonna be like Freeze Dry, i.e, it’s gonna be a fighting type move but will be super-effective against flying type pokemon…

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  128. Remember, these rumors are not confirmed to be true! For all we know, there could be 150 new Pokémon and LOTS od Post Game Events. Let us wait and see whether or not this is true. You might regret cancelling your pre order.

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      • As do I. I’m giving Kalos Pokémon a chance! Half of my team (not counting Froakie because it’s a starter received as a gift) will be new Pokémon I catch in the wild!

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          • Right there with you Fen. Im almost tempted to use Bulbasaur though. Mostly because I think its been stated that Kalos pokemon wont have any mega evolutions. I think thats the only exception Ill make.

          • I agree too. I just can’t help but use Chandelure. I never used it and heard great things about it; I almost used it in Black, but changed my mind because I wanted to get more information about it. The second is Mawile because it’s my favorite, never used it because of its stats, and want to use its Mega Evolution to my advantage.

  129. Only way to say that the text is correct is if the 3 parts of the dex are treated separately and the leaker got it confused….highly unlikely tho

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    • The information could of come from multiple people and probably has. I honestly am gonna try to not believe this until the games come out. Lol.

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  130. I think these are most likely real. I mean, if these are fake, there’s just SO MUCH detail! for example, in one of the battle screens, the third from last pokemon is fainted. If these were fake, who would’ve thought of that?

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  131. According to Pokebeach, these pictures come from two different sources, but both own the hawk thing. I think one of them removed his information but they think it was a cover-up since the images are so convincing.

    The frog looks fake. The hawk though, looks pretty real, and apparently a bunch of different sources are referencing him.

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  132. People hating on the name “Greninja”, firstly, these are regional games. Secondly, as you can see in the second last scan, the name on the left side looks NOTHING like “Quilladin”, i.e both might very well be NICKNAMES (To avoid attention from GF i suppose)

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  133. The one reason why I don’t believe Greninja is because there was an embargo set for discussing starter evolutions (and officially showing them) for after the games come out. However, I still like Greninja and wouldn’t mind if it were real. I’d actually love it!

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  134. Overall. I really don’t believe the Pokemon images. As Dicie said there was a embargo on releasing the starter information. Also, the hawk (even thought it looks cool) seems fan made. Same as the weird worm thing. It looks sprited. The images of the area and Emolga looks real! I can’t wait for October 11th – October 12th!

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  135. I think the alleged Froakie evo looks entirely fake. It looks way too cartoony in my eyes, something Nintendo has never really done to a last stage starter before. The design also doesn’t make a lot of sense to me because; Frogadier turned a much darker blue upon evolution (with less white), but then with this “last evolution”, what happened to all the dark blue? It looks as if all the dark blue from Frogadier is just, gone. I don’t think that’d happen realistically (along with the return of more white). The bubble ‘scarf’ is gone, to be replaced by it’s tongue? What? Not even a good design choice, all the artist did was replace the bubbles with it’s tongue, with the same form/anatomy and everything. As a big fakemon artist myself, I consider that lazy. Not to mention, it almost doesn’t look like a frog anymore. :1

    I don’t know what to say about the bird. It looks cool, but probably fake as well as it was made by the same artist lol. It looks nice, and I would not be upset if it was real. c:

    The third Pokemon is just, no. Nope, I’m done. Don’t like it, don’t want it.

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  136. Here’s how I think it goes:

    Hawk/Garuda Pokemon- Likely real, two sources mention it but could be fake because the typing is way too good to be true. Fighting/Flying sounds like a fan dream. But then again, so did Ghost/Steel back in the days of Generation V.
    Frogadier evo- Possibly an elaborate fake used to push buttons
    Pokemon Center images, overworld matching Kalos map, and battle with Emolga: Totally real, no question about it.
    Text information- Bullshit. 70 Pokemon and no aftergame? I think not.

    To me, it seems as if multiple people are coming together to put on a huge ruse for the fandom. Only 13 days left though! We can do it! We can do it!

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  137. The reason I believe this is simple: Fake Leakers have like one or two pictures. Yet, this leaker has come up with more and more and will probably show up more. So, I am in the boat this is real. But I don’t understand why Greninja has Extrasensory O_o

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  138. So I’m now going to try and summarize all that’s been discussed in the past two hours or so.
    Initially there were rumors that there would only be 70 new Pokemon and that the endgame was very lacking. These have mostly been debunked by fans by pointing out that there will be at least 101 new Pokemon, and that the Kalos Pokedex is large enough that it must be split into three sections.
    The Froakie evolution seems the most suspicious of the Pokemon revealed here. Its design looks a bit inconsistent with its pre-evolutions and the fact that it’s only seen in one shot from one source makes it a bit suspect. Its type is unclear. The pink thing around its neck may or may not be its actual tongue.
    Hawlucha was posted by multiple sources, making it more credible than the Froakie evolution, though it may still be fake. It is the first Fighting/Flying-type.
    Binacle was posted by a single source slightly later than the other images. It’s a Rock/Water-type and is generally hideous, but it doesn’t look any more or less real than the other two revealed Pokemon.
    The images of the overworld seem genuine. Emolga may or may not be included in the Kalos Dex.

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  139. More X and Y rumors
    The final starter evolutions’ typing will be Grass/Dark, Water/Fighting, and Fire/Psychic as confirmed before.
    Dive is back in this game as HM04
    When you transfer the shiny event Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina, you open up a new area where you can find their mega stones.
    107 new pokemon and 32 mega-evolutions.
    The reason that Oblivion Wing and Geomancy were classified as unknown types in the last issue of Coro coro is because they are the only two dual-type moves.
    Gym leaders and Elite Four members can use Mega-evolutions.
    New move called Attach. It is a bug type move where the user attaches itself to the foe and absorbs 20 HP every turn for three turns.
    No Dark type gym leader yet again.
    The pokemon going around called Hawlucha (Hawk-Lucha, spanish word for fight) is a real pokemon and it is the first stage of a two-part evolution line. It can be found somewhat early in the game. It’s evolution is called Librawk (Libre, as in Lucha-libre, spanish for wrestling, and Hawk)
    DLC Clothing pieces to be announced soon.
    15 Legendaries in the game and two Trios.
    Mega-evolved Pokemon do not gain EXP points when used to win a battle.
    Berry harvesting is back.
    Gardevoir gets a Mega-evolution.
    No regions other than Kalos in the game.
    Mewtwo can be caught in a cave after the main story.

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  140. We have so many many contradicting rumors!

    >Only 70 new Pokemon
    >Another rumor says 107 new Pokemon

    Wow. Just wow. This is getting ridiculous.

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  141. “OMG! HAWLUCHA CONFIRMED! KEN SUGIMORI ARTWORK!”

    This is going to be how it is the next 13 days. We need to get used to this. -_-

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  142. If we infer that the person who took a picture of Hawlucha with the blue background is the same one that took the picture of the pokedex entry, then we can see that they have a camera that takes pictures backwards, even though the image is forwards. So they likely pasted the images onto the 3ds in photoshop, and then messed up the lighting to make it seem legit.

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  143. It’s the perception of our minds as the release nears that leakers are more easy to believe because of the closeness of release in our grasps. I feel like we’re on a battlefield right now between fans until October 12th. It’s a bunch of he said, she said. You know? Makes you crazy real fast.

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  144. So, I want to tell that we spaniards, have a holiday on the 12th, so, just saying there is a possibility I could get my hands on the games on the 11th.

    So it that is true, which I’ll ask tomorrow at my shop, I will tell you everything on the 11th

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    • here, I copied it from there;

      I work for a magazine in the UK and got sent an email a couple of weeks ago with apparent Pokemon X & Y ‘facts’. The writer says they are from a European marketing team (did not mention which one).
      I don’t really think they are true, however a couple of things were right. Posting on here to see whether any had been already confirmed as true or fakes.
      I’ll post the few kinda ‘confirmed’ ones, they way they were written is not concrete which is why I doubted the rest are completely true, but at least maybe they are fun rumours to share.
      Two tv spots will be launched prior to release each with a new pokemon briefly shown to gain hype. A new normal-type unevolved pokemon (the grey one in the new uk trailer?) and a new poison-type pokemon with no evolutionary line.
      Three new evolutions of Gen VI pokemon will be released on the official facebook page prior to launch. (Doublade just released I guess?)
      The new Starter evolutions will be released. But no final evolutions until the week leading to the 12th October. (Well true so far)
      Mewtwo will have two forms, one for each game version. The second will not be announced until later on for fans to get used to the idea of mega evolutions. (This is one of the main things that made me post)
      And the rest:
      Rhyhorn will be first pokemon you get to ride in-game. You cannot ride Rhydon. The pokemon you ride in-game are not available for battles. (Guessing this means they act like the bike?)
      Main professor in the game will be female, with male professor (I’m guessing Sycamore?) as main plot driver.
      Pokemon from all previous generations will be able to be caught in-game, making it easier to complete pokedex without having to trade or use pokemon bank service. Re-emergance of ‘Gotta Catch ‘Em All” to regain Gen 1 fanbase.
      Harder to catch specific pokemon as more will be available in each route. Percentage of each pokemon appearing is lower.
      All starter pokemon will get mega evolutions and one from each generation will be obtainable throughout the game as part of male professor’s research.
      Not all legendaries are getting mega evolutions. There is no mega evolution for Mew, Cresselia and Genesect. They are confirmed to not have any.
      No Gen V pokemon will get mega evolutions. [Mod Note: Later in the comments claims he made a typo, it’s No Gen VI Pokemon]
      And this was apparently to help me?…
      The European names of new pokemon are not sent to the marketing team until 3 days prior to announce, to reduce leaks. This means any names currently ‘leaked’ are fake unless revealed within the week.

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  145. who cares wat rumours are true or not it is speculation and thats the fun part it wouldn’t be as fun if gamefreak just spoonfed us new news everyday

    Plus guys: sittin on benches is comfirmed so everyone can just relaxe…

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  146. I REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY HOPE THIS IS FAKE.
    why? well…:
    1. Hawlucha is so odd looking in that one shot with the white eyes… seriously freaking me out
    2. the froakie evo has a cool tongue and all but NO BUBBLES. why would they get rid of the awesome bubbly theme that conceals weapons right now? so much for rock pellets…
    3.the rock barnacle thing looks really bad. the faces are weird, it’s blushing (which I don’t like), and it looks like two mealworms coming out of a pie
    4. exp. share is a key item now? since when?
    5. 70 new pokemon? yeah right, then they’d be almost done revealing them by now
    6. greninja? someone explain I don’t get it
    7. Barely any endgame? Yeah right, a interview confirmed that the game would be “complete”, and have a full endgame as well (correct me if i’m wrong)
    8. they let another mewtwo loose!? why!?
    9. the z legendary? predictable and how would he know? sounds like the dude beat the game in a very short amount of time, AND notice how casually he said Z legendary… like he thought we all knew already about it.
    10. is greninja even the final evo of froakie? maybe he isn’t, it didn’t necessarily say. even if this seemed to be true, he may be a TOTALLY DIFFERENT frog pokemon. hoping because of no bubbles…
    so whatdya think? complaints? downvotes? tell me plz in the comments below

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  147. I think that the Froakie evolution is off. But that’s just me. The 70 Pokemon and no aftergame thing is likely fake to piss people off. Froakie final evolution doesn’t look like something Game Freak would do. The bubble collar was a focal point in design for Froakie and Frogadier. It’s missing. I think the hawk is real and that the leakers are covering it up with these images and info. The rest of the images such as the Pokemon Center, Emolga battle, and overworld Kalos shots are from a separate source probably and likely real too.

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  148. I haven’t thrown in my two cents in an individual comment yet, so I guess it’s time:

    I agree with everyone else that it seems odd that they’d just abandon the bubble elements in Froakie’s final evolution’s design. However, how in the world could someone create something that convincing-looking in Photoshop? It would easily be one of the greatest fakes the Pokémon fandom has ever seen. Also, at this point I think we generally agree that the bird is real, and it was first shown alongside the Froakie final evolution, further pointing towards the frog ninja being real. One final thing I’d like to mention: If you are disappointed by the lack of bubbles, don’t forget that it will eventually get a Mega Evolution.

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  149. It appears the pics are quite real……
    The info I doubt

    If that’s the final froakie evo…..it’s gonna take me a while to get used to it’s design. Why couldn’t the scarf be made of bubbles instead of his tongue?

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  150. :O Okay….
    Froakie’s final evo looks awesome, although the loss of its bubbles truly makes me wonder if its fake
    The barnacle thing I don’t care for, but it’s not the worst design.
    The bird’s typing is cool, and the design is okay.
    I’m glad the text is apparently fake, because 70 new Pokemon plus the no endgame really upset me.
    The waiting game once more continues.

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  151. The only thing that bothers me about Froakie’s evos tongue-scarf is…How would that even work? Like how would it function with it’s tongue constantly wrapped around its neck??

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  152. Greninja
    Type: Water/ Fighting or Dark
    Male Gender
    Caught with Pokeball
    Level:66
    Held Item: Mystic Water

    Hawlucha
    Type: Flying/ Fighting
    Male Gender
    Caught with Great Ball
    Level:63
    Held Item: Expert Belt

    Greninja does look real but its Bubbles have
    Dis-appeared and this kind of reminds me of
    Snivy’s Evolution lane because Snivy and Servine
    both have feet and why doesn’t Serperior.

    Binacle is freaking me out but it looks like a Pokemon
    You would find using Dive and it would be like Foongus
    and have an encounter many times in one spot

    The photo of the trainer going into a Wierd Rock area
    it looks kind of wierd but it is an area on the Kalos
    Map.

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  153. On Hawlucha Status Screen. I kind of find it weird that it is not the same model as in the PokeDex. The Status Screen, Battle, and PokeDex all seemed to have the same 3D Model. Yet, I don’t if you can change the angle you look at the Pokemon! I really can’t say much at this point!

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  154. Hawlucha and Greninja have both amazing designs, much more real, fluid and powerful than most of fans would’ve struggle to imagine. I can’t stand free hate. It blinds even the most sane judge. In any case, while the other pokemon it’s a bit odd, has a lot of personality. I really hope they’re real; if not, those are some original and fantastic fakes.

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    • Can you stop posting so much. You’re making Disqus freak out.

      I wouldn’t say a frog with a tongue wrapped around its neck and a mexican hawk are incredibly original but whatever. Not many are hating but they do look fake.

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  155. Nothing exciting right now. I’m going to go work out and I’ll check back later after I get back to my dorm. Let’s hope for some FABULOUS rumors later!

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  156. If Greninja is water/fighting and at level 66, why does it not know a single fighting move……
    Guys help me with this depression…..

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  157. Lmao, I love what Joe (Creator of Serebii) just Tweeted. “Nothing like a relaxing Sunday evening.” So much sarcasm in that post because of Poke fans all over the Internet freaking out over these pics xD

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  158. My reasons for thinking that some of this is fake, which is pure speculation:

    1. According to Pokebeach that new Pokemon Binacle is number #21 in the Kalos dex, and is in the Coastal Dex. That just makes no sense to me, because of where we know you start in the region… Why would a coastal Pokemon be found so early on that it is #21 in the dex? We already know that the starts will take up numbers #1 – #12… which only leaves eight more slots for Pokemon before that one. We also already know that Fletchling, Scatterbug, Litleo, Pikachu, and Bunnelby are all found early on… They’ll probably take up numbers well past #21.

    2. That Froakie evolution, while still looks cool… Just seems odd. Pokemon designs, ESPECIALLY the starters, have always had a continuing theme within in their evolution chain. Yes, they don’t have to always look super similar… But why would Froakie’s final evolution all the sudden ditch the overall cloud/bubbles theme to replace it with a long tongue scarf thing when a tongue has not been a theme shown at all in Froakie or Frogadier.

    3. People have already said it, but 70 new Pokemon is just weird… Based off of already revealed Pokemon and assumed evolutions (I’m assuming Helioptle, Clauncher, Skrelp, Swirlix and Spritzee, will have evolutions… Because they don’t seem complete to me.) There are around 56 Pokemon we already know about by proxy, so there’s only going to by 14 more new Pokemon? Probably at least three of those will be a legendary trio… So really that only leaves 11 new Pokemon, and if the above two are real that leaves 9. All of this is purely assumption, but I just don’t think Gamefreak would have revealed so many new Pokemon before the games release if 70 new ones were the case. (Not to mention there are types they haven’t even shown new Pokemon for yet!)

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  159. Greninja looks like this because its animation shows him licking of his bubbles with his tongue. His normal sprite would show him with his tongue retreated.
    Case solved.

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  160. All this speculation really reminds me of when the final evos were leaked back in BW; People saying how fake it is because of this and that(not that I don’t believe them). I think it’s the same thing here, but we’ll find out soon enough.

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  161. for all of you that think that greninja is fake well if you look at it the toung thing is a part of the animation and the leaker is just looking at the coments and laughing i can bet you 😛

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  162. I feel like the bubbles are a recurring theme in the froakie family so it seems strange that the final evolution lacks that. However, we’re talking about GameFreak here so everything is possible. I love its design too 🙂 I love the luchador hawk so much and really hope its real! As for the mole thing, It seems like it could be part of the Diglett family…

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  163. Oh boy this is going to be fun,Well guys we got a long wait ahead in the land of Pokemon X and Pokemon Y and we got 13 days before the big day,so Watch or Play something long to pass the time along because it going to be a long wait;)

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  164. I have never in my life “hated” a pokemon design. Even if i’m not excited or pleased i am in a way accepting …. except that pie worm bird clam THING !!! if that is real i honeslty do not know what i’m going to do… i even love the ice-cream Pokemon in comparison to this!

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  165. Personally I think this whole thing is getting out of control Nintendo do your job don’t let these fools get games then leak f u gamer imma rebel Maverick I don’t play by the rules rules play by me

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  166. 13 days left everyone

    weedle- the hairy bug pokemon

    It eats its weight in leaves every day. It fends off attackers with the needle on its head.

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  167. greninja is fake because pokemon don’t change names that drastically from frogadier to greninja makes no sense but everything else looks legit

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  168. I would like to see fanart for 13 days left.
    It should be spooky with Orot and Yveltal, since you know 13 is supposed to be a unlucky number

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  169. Of course the day that my computer decides to implode is the day when all these rumors are posted. On the bright side, I just got a new computer…

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  170. Alright, this looks pretty real. I just glanced at the pictures and decided my time is up on this site for a while. I’ll be back after the 12th. Ciiao!

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  171. Quick unrelated question, as I never really used Disqus before this site, is anyone else having issues to where if a comment is posted below it automatically jumps to the comment (or sometimes all over the screen) and won’t let me move until I view the damn comment.

    Because I’d really like it to stop. ;~;

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  172. Yeah, you know what, I might leave PokeJungle starting tomorrow and, just for these last two weeks, keep myself in the dark. It would be fantastic to actually miss the Dex leak and have things to discover!

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  173. Can’t say whether they real or not but….the pic with Quilladin and Emolga, the text for Quilladins name doesn’t look like it reads Quilladin!

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  174. With all these new ways to gain exp faster, be prepared for lvl 80 and above Elite 4 and almost lvl 90 Champion. I hope not, because that’s really taking these games up to eleven.

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  175. So I posted my ideas for Gym Leader rosters on GameFAQs, tell me what you think?

    Gym 1 (Viola):
    Surskit lv. 11
    Larvesta lv. 11
    Vivillon lv. 13

    Gym 2 (Cosmo):
    Dedenne lv. 17
    Marill lv. 18
    Malfume lv. 21 (Fairy/Poison Spritzee evolution)

    Gym 3 (Blake):
    Houndour lv. 23
    Nuzleaf lv. 24
    Honchkrow lv. 26

    Gym 4 (Korrina):
    Hawlucha lv. 30
    Breloom lv. 31
    Croagunk lv. 31
    Mienshao lv. 33

    Gym 5 (Clemont):
    Lanturn lv. 36
    Emolga lv. 37
    Dedenne lv. 37
    Heliodon lv. 39 (Electric/Dragon Helioptile evolution)

    Gym 6 (Grant):
    Graveler lv. 41
    Trusk lv. 42
    Corsola lv. 42
    Tyrantrum lv. 44

    Gym 7 (Vernon):
    Deino lv. 47
    Flygon lv. 48
    Noivern lv. 48
    Wyveon lv. 50 (Dragon Eeveelution)

    Gym 8 (Vanna):
    Arbok lv. 54
    Victreebel lv. 55
    Poissonous lv. 55 (Poison/Water Skrelp evolution)
    Nidoqueen lv. 56
    Weezing lv. 58

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    • I hope in this generation we won’t have another Water or Electric type gym leader. They are practically in every region, and we need some of other less common types. I would love to see gyms of dark, fairy, ground, ghost, poison, bug, grass and dragon.

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    • I really do like this. The names and types are very unique. Although I would say Clemont is Steel, but that’s just me.
      And I also like having Gym Leaders with more than 3 Pokemon. Creates more of a challenge! 😀
      I hope something like this does happen!

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  176. Somebody noticed the “Home” and “Select” buttons written backwards on some photos? If they are are all of the same source, shouldn’t all the photos being with text information backwards then? Seems fake, but the hawlucha picture in the 3D battle seems very convincing.

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  177. if they are fake i just cant believe somebody wuld mess with us like this ive been here since the begining and if this is fake im gona go to the guy who made this and shuve a nintendo 3ds xl into his ….

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  178. something strange: Greninja is the first Water starter to “lose” the dark blue. I mean Totodile line and Mudkip line are normal/light blue in all 3 forms. Squirtle is light blue, Wartortle is darker and Blastoise even darker. Also Piplup/Oshawott/Froakie have something dark blue in the base form which grows over with evolutions. But while Empoleon and Samurott are totally dark blue Greninja totally lost the dark blue of Froakie and Frogadier and returns to froakie light blue.I mean why does it loses the dark blue on its hands and legs and instead gains white spots? Isn’t this strange?

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    • By the way: I love ohow Game Freak sometimes releases pokemons based in traditional cultures from different countries, instead of just picking an animal and adding it some water/grass/fire details. For example, in the fifth generation we had Braviary, which had the colours of United States flag, was based in American simbolic animal, the eagle, and represented some values traditionally attached to U.S, as it is bravery. I would like to see more often cultural based pokemons. In fact, I think some of these are the best designed.

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  179. Barely any endgame?
    I might not get the game if this is true, I still haven’t completed all of the PWT in Black 2, it’s really really good.
    XY needs a Battle Frontier equivalent or I’m not geting it, Battle Factory is too much fun to give up.

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  180. Went to GameStop in hopes of getting the Shiny Palkia… They already set it t the Shiny Giratina 🙁 I missed the Palkia, The book store was closed so now I’m getting an F for reading… I’m sorry this is not Facebook…

    *Happy mood* Sooo, anything new?

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  181. I Hope everyone noticed in Hawluchas image in the pokedex, the DS’s Home Button is backwards, but the button to go back from the pokedex is facing the correct direction… this just strikes me as poor photo shop >…>

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  182. I think Hawklucha is real. But it honestly just scares me that someone has this game and has completed it and claims there to be no aftergame. I’m really scared.

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  183. Does anybody else not notice that Greninja can learn Extrasensory? Possibly Water/Fighting, and it can learn Extrasensory! *looks at Fennekin* I need to see you for a second… >_>

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  184. Apparently, the original italian lady said that there would be some phoenix that would be Water/Flying with it’s wings wet. Perhaps she mistakened it for Hawklucha?

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  185. I honestly think this is all real at this point considering review copies are already out and people are likely gonna disobey Nintendo to get popular. However, the text info likely came from another source. As Pokebeach does not have the claims about no aftergame and 70 Kalos Pokemon only. I think that he is showing Pokemon (and some good ones at that, except the barnacle one). The Froakie evo will grow on me soon enough, I hope. Cause I can’t see anyone faking these shots. I really can’t.

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  186. Fake, Probably! 70 new Pokémon, no way! How many fans GameFreak would lose have the game have no endgame and only 70 new Pokemon. Plus with all the hype and big expectations it will bad for GF to disappoint. Don’t like Greninja, it’s not like the other Froakie evolution. “Hawlucha” is cool but has a stupid name and the other Pokémon named “Binacle” as said on Pokébeach looks cool.

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  187. Every image of “Greninja” that’s been posted has it in the same stance. When will a different stance be “leaked”?

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  188. I honestly just want these damn games to come out so the rumor mill can stop! I really think it all started thanks to the mention of the embargo of reviews until the 4th of October. People got excited and starting faking information and images. Cause some of these images could be fake as I remember seeing a Shiny Fennekin from a demo that looked real but was actually fake. Do any of you guys remember?

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    • Yeah, there was that one person that went on a shiny rampage and randomly started editing tons of models to look shiny. That was kind of exciting, but it got unbelievable real fast 😛

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      • Yeah, the problem with this is, there’s nothing to disprove it. I think the images are perfect in every way possible. I just hate how people are like “The hawk pokemon looks like a bird with human torso and legs attached!” It actually looks really good, even if it is a fake design.

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  189. I call binacle fake, look at the way the horns overlap with the box above it, an awful programming mistake. It also has no shadows and the buttons on the bottom are different compared to the ones in hawlucha picture.

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  190. My motto is: “If it’s ugly and people don’t like it, then it’s real.”
    So yeah, I think all three of the new Pokemon are real. We have to get used to them. Everyone seems to be fangirling over Hawlucha and some people are hating it. And the Froakie evo just looks too hideous for words. I’m gonna, honestly have to pick a Kanto starter in favor of this ugly mess. It’s seriously gonna be hell for the next 13 days!

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  191. Have the new Pokebeach rumors been proven false? Cause I don’t see a lot of people arguing that Froakie’s supposed evo looks nothing like the evo described by the leaker. I had a feeling it was fake and someone was just trying to send in fake leaks to destroy Pokebeach’s reputation.

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  192. my gamestop is having a midnight realse of x and y saying it had the most pre orders of any pokemon game and it has more pre orders then ghost

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  193. Hey guys. Good news. Hiro said something about the 70 Pokemon new to Kalos thing being a ruse and that it wouldn’t make sense for them to leave a little less than 20 Pokemon left for us to uncover when we already know and assume about 50 or more of them.

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  194. I’m sorry guys for not getting over the 70 Pokemon only in Kalos thing being fake. It’s just that I am a huge worrywart when it comes to rumors and honestly should of stayed off of this in the first place because it’s driving me nuts to the point where I can’t even think straight. This image just worries me: http://imgur.com/rrPO4E3

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  195. -Start Rant here-

    I might actually pick Fennekin or Chespin as my starter instead of Froakie. The Froakie evolution just does NOT apply to me. It’s hideous. A bulbous tongue sticking out of it’s mouth wrapped around like a stupid scarf? It doesn’t look anything like it’s pre-evolutions either! It’s like Game Freak completely abandoned the design! I hate it!

    -End Rant here-

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    • I hope in a more nuanced way. Right now, it does appear very witch-like with the pointy nose and dress. Subtle always wins in design so long as the motif is clear.

      And I agree, even though a mage would be coo’, a witch would be ‘wicked’.

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  196. I am both baffled and amused that we’ve been allowed to run amok and off-topic in this comments section for this length of time with no intervention from any of the moderators. I mean seriously, these conversations are going everywhere.

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  197. I am confused, are these real or not? or is it still unknown? I’m hoping these are not real, I dont like Greninja’s design at all

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  198. I don’t do teams…ever. But if I had to make a “team” for X/Y with new Pokemon: Chespin, Helioptile, MegaAmpharos, Pyroar (female), Malamar and MegaMawile

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  199. Here’s my team so far for Pokemon X:

    Froakie
    Talonflame
    Tyrantrum (will teach it Iron Tail so I can destroy Fairies and Ice Fang for other Dragon and Ground types if it can learn that!)
    Hawklucha (if it is real, might have to pick Chespin instead and get another Fire type like Pyroar so that Hawlucha will not coincide with Talonflame. Haha.)

    Team if Hawklucha is real:

    Froakie
    Pyroar
    Tyrantrum
    Hawklucha

    What do you guys think?

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  200. After beating the game I’m going to replay it only using diglett and that Binacle thing and then my binacle and diglett army SHALL RULE THE WORLD!

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  201. So since it seems that we’ve successfully beaten this bunch of rumors to death, I think I’m going to head out. I might poke my head back into these comments later, but I kind of doubt anything’s going to come up that would change the fact that we basically don’t know anything about any of their validity 😛

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  202. I was on 4Chan last night when these were posted, and though two of the new Pokemon look legit, and the overworld pictures were not posted at the same time, the person that posted the pictures of the Pokemon confirmed that they were fake.

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  203. 5th gen revealed 55/156 pokemon before release while 4th revealed 30/108. I highly doubt that nintendo would reveal 40/70 of them before release

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  204. Greninja looks cool, the tongue is weird though. If it’s real, I would want to see it’s full animation before I make my full first impression. Hawlucha is also cool, but in the screenshot, it’s level 63, does that mean it doesn’t evolve? I would have to see a better picture of the pie with wacky arm waving inflatable tube men coming out of it.

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  205. Dudes i know off-topic stuff get’s you assassinated round’ here but i just came up with the most awesome Fakemon today
    Jaquire! Electric/Dark
    a Super-electrically-charged Jaguar with jagged lightning shaped whiskers and wire-y volt tail and conductor spots that build up electricity as it runs!

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  206. – Professor Patrice is a second (female) professor, who is based on research and sends your friends the Kalos starters.
    – Frogadier evolves into Amphegade, a Water/Fighting type. It focuses on stealthy combat. Amphegade uses makeshift “bubble bombs” to thwart its opponents. It has a darker appearance: It wears a hood, which is derived from Frogadier’s eye-horns. The bubbles are transformed into a necklace of bubble bombs.
    – Braixen evolves into Fire/Psychic Zorsearer, what I assume is a play on “sorcerer”. It’s gender ratio is still primarily male, as Zorsearer is more gender neutral than Braixen. It’s fur is shaped into a witch’s hat, while it also wears a cloak or caplet of sorts. Its tail and ear fur flow in a more beautiful way, resembling smoke or intense heat. It carries a wooden wand that it can ignite on command, and casts devious tricks on it’s opponents. It is still bipedal.
    – Quilladin evolves into Chestlamane, another word play based on Charlamagne, Grass/Dark. It’s a little more sleek than Quilladin. The chestnut shell broke into what resembles a knight’s armor. There are some spikes that cover its armor plates. Its chest has a simple leafy pattern that resembles gothic/medieval art (not sure how to explain the origin, but think of Serperior).
    – There is about new 130 Pokemon. There are 6 evolutions of previous Pokemon, including Swalot. So far, there has been a good number of new Fire and Poison types.
    – A new ability, Cautious Step, ignores entry hazards. It is used by Hawlucha.
    – Helioptile evolves into another Electric/Normal type that references solar panels. It’s final stage evolves via Sun Stone.
    – Houndoom, Camerupt, Druddigon and Zoroark will get Mega Evolutions.

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  207. Pokebeach said that there supposedly is a new Aerodactyl Mega Evolution and Froakie’s Final Evolution was CONFIRMED to be Water/Fighting, but how is none of Greninja’s Moves Fighting, but Flying, Psychic and Water? Oh and there is no way there will be only 70 pokemon being released as there are 3 pokedexs in the Kalos Region, the 1st being the Main Kalos Pokedex, the second Coastal Kalos, and the third being the Mountains. The new rocky two headed pokemon shown in image #5 is called Binacle, which is No.21 in the Coastal Kalos Pokedex, also stated by Pokebeach from the leaker, whose IP traced back to Italy, where most of the recent leaks were coming from.

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    • The text was already confirmed fake. Now that I think about it, the pictures and text were from the same dude, so why are we still puzzled over if the pictures he posted are true? Makes no sense to make up a bunch of text to go with real pictures…

      IP proxies are not hard.

      If it’s real, he doesn’t have to have a fighting type move if he doesn’t want to…

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    • Well as for Froakie’s evolution, the person doesn’t need to use fighting type moves. It’s a little weird, but it could be possible that the leaker just didn’t feel the need.

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  208. I don’t believe any of it…. Too many ‘sources’ claiming the same info (info we already knew about)… It’s just some dudes causing mayhem trying to get ‘hits’ for their site/page…. If it was a true leak why stop with only a couple of pics…. Why not reveal all the starters…. All the types… Etc

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  209. I forgot where i heard this from but the 3 starters are going to be ebased on a witch/sorceris or however you spell, a knight, and a robber aka ninja type of thing

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  210. I found this, it’s a Swirlix evo based on candycane, mint fur along with whip cream tufts and cotton candy ears. It was made before Furfrou. XD

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  211. Can someone please post a link to where Mr. Masuda said stuff about the aftergame and amount of Pokemon? I’m really curious to see that interview and put this 70 Kalos Pokemon nightmare to bed.

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  212. So for everyone that went to Pokebeach to look up this stuff the person who leaked them SAID THEY WERE FAKE !!! usually that means they are fake … Of course he could be trying to cover his tracks but why would he risk it in the first place? These aren’t really the ground breaking details we’re begging for.

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  213. u know what woulb be cool if we had dark time gym leader who is a happily bubbly girl but quickly became dark and evil when in battle

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  214. Fashion type gym- Trainers use Cottonee and Spider pokemon because they make fabric, along with bug types like caterpie, wurmple, and scatterbug.

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  215. The thing that really makes me think that “Greninja” is fake is that it learns Extrasensory. If the information we’ve been given before (by a very reliable source) about Froakie’s final evolution being Water/Fighting is true, why the hell would it learn Extrasensory?

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  216. Ah, it’s really interesting watching everyone arguing over whether or not the leaks and pictures are real or not. I love this community!
    These leaks are making me really excited for the game, I seriously can’t wait!

    By the way, is there anything in particular that you guys are looking forward to in X and Y?
    For me it’s bonding with my rivals, and character customization!

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  217. I’m staying away from Pokémon Websites in order to protect myself from any spoilers and from being disappointing about leaked rumors being proven to be fake. I will return one day when the world has calmed down from X and Y (mid November). I have been given enough information to remain patient until the games are released. Oh how I wished GF would have revealed Mega Sableye and a Bug/Dragon Pokémon before. No matter, I will be occupied during the time I wait. Besides college life and social events, I will also have Breaking Bad’s Finale, Legend of Korra, Code Geass R2, and a few video games to pass the time. I will also be playing White 2 to my heart’s content because once this new generation begins, I won’t play my old Pokémon games as often as I did. Good bye my friends. I will see you again in November!

    13 DAYS LEFT!!!!!!!!

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  218. I’m probably not going to go onto pokejungle after today to avoid spoilers. I want a little mystery saved for the game, you know? And the waiting won’t be too bad after the remake of legend of zelda windwaker comes out for the wii U. Bye, Everyone! See ya on October 13th!

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  219. You guys know those koala looking things in the trailer? Supposedly it matches up with a rumor about Koaldy thats a fairy type.

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  220. what’s everyone’s thoughts on gym line up this time round? I don’t want to see another water type gym, let other type shine mainly dark

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    • Pretty much from what one Italian review has said, Bug, Fairy, Electric, Fighting, Steel.

      The Bug and Electric are correct. Viola is the bug leaders and Clemont is the Electric one. Grant is mostly likely either Rock, Ground, or Steel (leaning towards rock myself). I hope there is a Fairy Gym but I would rather have it and Dark be later in the lineup to showcase their true prowess

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  221. There is no way Gamefreak would over hype this game just to only make 70 new Pokemon.The lowest amount was Johto with 100. That being said they’ve release about 40 pokemon in the press release. I highly double that they would release over half the dex. The 70 rumor is beyond fake

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    • I doubt there’s just 70 Pokemon, I mean the new Pokemon is one of the core things of each new generation it’s one of the things people look foreword to the most each time around. It would just seem off and disappointing if Gamefreak have add all this new stuff and cut us cheap on one of the main points of the game.

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  222. Quite frankly, until someone posts something showing the exact process by which they created their fake images, I think we can’t discredit any of the things that got posted initially. There are a variety of reasons someone could backtrack and say that they were lying all along; to be honest, most fake leakers don’t actually confess, they just watch as their creations get more and more popular. So yeah, unless I see some sort of step-by-step example of how these images were faked, they can’t be ruled out.

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  223. Alright, let’s do something different. What Pokemon are you most looking forward to petting/playing with in Pokemon-Amie? It’s Leafeon and Mightyena for me. XP

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  224. Okay, I for one think Hawlucha is real due to the facts that it has been leaked no once, but twice. Anyone agree? I think the others are fake.

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    • 150.

      It’s because of the change in art style. In older gens, someone could “leak” a sprite and nobody would know the difference because spriting is easier than these 3D models and changing a sprite battle’s background is much easier. Back then, people would see a leak, use caution, and just keep going, since every “leak” had a similar quality.

      Now with the 3D models, people are trying to guess what GF’s style is, leading to both less spectacular leaks and the occasional leak that seems to go either way, since we’re all trying to guess what GF will and won’t do with designs.

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          • I think that back before May, leaks were easy to tell if they were fake. But as GF showed more stuff, the fakes got better. I wouldn’t be surprised if some of these artists were the same ones that faked those batches of CoroCoro scans back in the February-April time period. Remember?

          • Right, good point. To be honest, if we saw Doublade back in May or even July, most of us would think it was some person’s awful attempt at a Honedge evolution. Then GF shocks us with his reveal and people are lost trying to figure out what GF’s design limits are. These artists are now pushing these limits and riding the fine line between realistic and nuts, and we’re falling for it hook-line-and-sinker.

  225. Well, that’s enough Pokemoning for today. Off to watch the series Finale of Breaking Bad, then go to bed and go to my 9-5 grown up job which I love because it helps time fly. It’ll be October 11 before I know it!! See you all later!

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  226. Does anyone think because red and blue are the colours for his gen as with the originals.. That’s we’ll have pokemon “z” in yellow? Or green.. If that makes sense.
    I don’t know how to word it..

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  227. ok quick question. I preordered the game from EB Games (GameStop canadian subsidiary) but since the twelfth is a saturday idk when i’m gonna get it? Mail isn’t delivered on saturdays, is it?? and then idk if we have to wait until then just for them to ship. help from someone with experience preordering?

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  228. Well if Greninja turns out to be true we can find a positive note:

    Extrasensory (x2 on Poison)
    Bounce (x2 on Fighting, Grass, Bug)
    Hydro Pump; (x2 on Fire, Rock, Ground)
    Close Combat/Hi Jump Kick; (x2 on Normal, Dark, Ice, Steel)
    Ice Beam (x2 on Dragon; Flying)

    It is already SE against [SIZE=5][B]13[/B][/SIZE] types and it will have great attack stats and great speed.

    If they give him earthquake and a dark move (add x2 electric, ghost and psychic to the above) It will destroy everything (It could maybe have a poison move against Fairy being a frog and grass Knot for water pokemon)

    P.s. I know it’s weal but it can also learn lick (X2 ghost, psychic)

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  229. extrasensory’s pp is wrong, isn’t it 30 now. or was it once 30 and now 20, i never kept up with that move. I am choosinfg fennekin anyway, froakies final does not effect me.

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  230. I beleive these rumors are fake. Why would GF reveal over half of the Pokemon before the games come out, also 70 is too damn low of a number. 2nd if you look at Binacle and Greninja, they don’t look Sugimori style. The Bird one is the only one that resembles the Sugimori art style so the leaks with him may be true. Also the leaker said something about using Exp Share but Mutsuda stated in a recent interveiw it was replaced with Exp All from the Gen 1 games, did he get the names mixed up or something?

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  231. I really think the Chespin evolution was added by someone that is watching the reactions of fans and spent a few hours working on it, but that’s just me.

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  232. Guys, think about it. Knights tend to have high defense, right? Armor doesnt effect health, it effects how safe you are and how many hits you can take. The deal a lot of damage too. I’ve said this quite alot. I think he is used to attack after status infliction and that he is slow due to the armor. Think about it, guys. Think about it.

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  233. :O
    I kinda wanted that Chespin evo to be true.
    It looked awesome, and it was what I expected.
    Coming up, a fake Fennekin evo that will make me cry about the fact that it isn’t real D:

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  234. Come back to see if there’s anything new…Sees Chespin evolution…FREAKS OUT! Then finds out it’s fake…

    Is there any fellow Revenge fan here? SEASON 3 PREMIERE is starting right now OMG :DD

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  235. Soooo quick follow-up about the Chespin evolution:
    It seems Vivillon is generally portrayed as not having a shadow? Which I hadn’t noticed before, but I guess that’s consistent. However, that being said, the grass it’s standing in is also not from any official release, the background perfectly matches http://www.serebii.net/xy/chespinfletchling2.jpg and the HP is insanely low.

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  236. It’s so Blatant it’s weird, but what if these obvious mistakes weren’t an oversight but something the leaker made just to stray TPCi off, they will view it as a fake that looks quite similar to their final product….

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  237. I believe this is the most comments we’ve gotten on an article since the reveal of Mega Evolutions! This is truly a day where history (may) be made! With the top number of comments and some believeable leaks (some more than others), today truly is a record-breaking day!

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  238. Yeah. I say fake too for Chespin evo. It has 89 HP at Level 33 in the other shot.

    It has 94 HP in this shot, no way that can be right. Pokemon gain enormous amounts of HP when they evolve usually.

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  239. Guys Chespin’s looks bad ass! (excuse my language but thats how I can describe it!) and im glad to see that its not from the same leaker, since Froakie’s doesebt look good at all. I really hope Chespin’s is real

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  240. Can people please stop saying that it’s real or fake and say that we think it’s real or fake? I’m getting confused, and none of us know for sure except for the person that leaked it.

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  241. On the Chespin evolution part is really weird. Not looks or anything like that, but stat wise. It has 94 HP, but with the photos of Quiladin that somebody posted, it was lv 33 and had 89 HP. While these could completely be different Chespin evolutions (which they probably are,) the stat difference is weird in terms of HP. One had to have low EV’s on HP. I mean it is ridiculous.

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  242. From Wulava on serebii forums:

    The HP bar says 67/94, wherein it should say 69/ 94.
    There should be a space for another digit after the backslash.

    The EXP bar should also be dark blue with gradient. This one has a solid sky blue.

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  243. one thing is i actually like the deisign it two barancles broken off the sea floor and went through some radioactive waste and became alive

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  244. Okay, so we’ve come down to an agreement. Well most of us. We’ve agreed that Quilladins evolution is fake, but the theories we have might be true. He must have a little more health, but he has a good chance of being a good defensive and offensive pokemon. Couldn’t of done it without help from you guys. So we merged theories! 😀

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  245. “There is barely any endgame”

    I believe this happens to many original games of the series. Like R/B, G/S, R/S, D/P, B/W…. these have much fewer things to do compared to their remake counterparts.

    But hey, 70 Pokemon? Most likely it’s fake because we already have 30 +/- revealed. If that’s really the case, the company would try to hide from us a lot of Pokemon that have already been revealed

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  246. Wow, that fake quilladin evolution is gross. It doesn’t have beautiful shading like everything else, it looks very 2D and how could this thing have the potential to have less HP than Chespin itself.

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  247. I better go now too. I have homework that needs to get done. I must say totally was one hell of a loop with emotions. I almost cried and my heart almost sank at the 70 Kalos Pokemon and no aftergame. Then I fell in love with Hawlucha. And now we have more “leaks” on the horizon. This is starting to get way out of hand. I will try to avoid here as much as possible because I don’t want to get spoiled if this is all real info. So, see you guys later, hopefully after two weeks when everyone has beat the game and we can talk about how awesome everything is. xD

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  248. I hope the Chespin evo and Froakie evo are fake….I wouldn’t mind if Greninja or whatever was a separate Pokemon. I just don’t think it’s starter Pokemon worthy.

    Then again, look what they did with Dewott -> Samurott last gen. Completey shat on my dreams of a magestic otter, he because a horse dog with shells.

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  249. Seems like someone is trolling Bulbapedia w/ possible fake information. In the past few minutes, it was said that Korrina specializes in Fighting-types, and that she is the 6th gym leader. #SUSPICEROUS

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  250. I think I am giving up on All “leaked” information…the Pokebeach leaks made me gullible but I quickly snapped out from that to see not everyone is right. I can wait a few days… this weak nonsense is a waste of time Seriously..

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          • Yeah, I like your point of view, I just don’t want people saying they are real as if confirmed, they need to point flaws and strengths.. In the end its no big deal, i got caught up in this like I tell everyone else not to,haha. My opinion is they are fake.. that is all

  251. Alright, this is starting to devolve into a series of arguments over who has the more convincing evidence that certain pieces are or are not fake. We should try to put a rest to all these quarrels for our own good.

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    • A series of arguments that has led this article to be more than it was intended to, I mean REALLY? 4577 comments? Crazy. And over a bunch of rumors too.

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  252. I think all of yall should wait til the end of this week because someone will definitely leak the Kalos pokedex. The Kalos dex have about 130 pokemon, no less than 109.

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    • That might be a bit much to hope for, I don’t think anything nearing that level of leaking will be tolerated this go around. At least we should be getting a New Pokemon this week from Gamefreak, and maybe a few things, based on reviews at the end of the week. Btw, does anyone know when Corocoro is supposed to be released this upcoming month? Another early one, or just regular time.

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  253. That is it. I am leaving pokejungle for a while because I don’t want to be spoiled. I will return once I find out what the real quilladin evolution is for my own, or once I beat the game.

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    • Yeah, no concrete info, but the (apparent) source behind the first handful of images made a post on 4chan saying they gained access to a closed doors, invite-only event in Montreal where he took the pictures and scattered them online to various sites. He had some help with some of the pokemon: Greninja and that undersea sushi/bug thing are fakes he had help with, but he claims Hawklucha is real, and was his favourite. He put some fake images among the real ones so he wouldn’t be found out. His story seems legit, but i don’t understand why GF would have an invite-only pokemon event in Montreal of all places, and why he would disclose his motives now.

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  254. I think it’s time for me to go… I’ll try my best to stay away… If I can 😐 Goodbye all! See you all in 12 days, 2 hours, 52 minutes, and 30 seconds! I’m going to avoid every Pokemon related thing from now until release and yes including this site 🙁 I want to find out what Chespin evolves into myself which will really make the wait pay off! This is Jordin,

    Signing off~

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  255. I’m going to leave now, and then I’m going to use a Chrome extension I downloaded to block this website so that I don’t spoil myself. Sorry to leave you all but it had to be done! See you on the 12th!

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  256. Welp, goodnight everyone. Gotta get back to HW and then get to sleep. It was nice to finally get a “leaked” Chespin final evolution after Froakie and Fennekin have been getting all the attention. Too bad the design turned out to be fake, but also thankfully it did because dat HP, ugh.

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  257. I would be disappointed with only 70 unless the regional dex was bigger than b/w2. More than 300 pokes pre national would be an okay compensation. Anyways I’m not buying the pictures till they get clearer and more of the screens in higher quality lol

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    • lol kinda went over that hours ago. The problem is that they’ve release about 40 (give or take) Pokemon in official press release. That means that they have already revealed half their next. Thats not include the probably alternate stages of the pokemon released. (Which increases the total to almost 50 (again give or take) There is no way Nintendo would release almost 3/4s of the Kalos dex throughout all of these. And Kalos being without an endgame portion is quite sad. (Being that the lasts generations (IV and V) have had end game content. So this is most likely fake

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      • I feel like for gen 4 and 5 they released no more than 10% of their pokédex pre game release. Of course they also normally revealed more than one eevee normally….

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  258. I’m new to this whole discussion board thing but it’s really cool.. I can be a poke-nerd without judgement.. (Zigzagoon is awesome, just saying)

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  259. The thing that makes me think these new “supporting” pics of Greninja are fake is that they’re all in the same EXACT pose that we’ve seen…Isn’t that a bit odd?? Anyway, good night for realz this time

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    • The close image would of had to be redrawn for it to fit, the proportions are actually quite different from the fan art. But, the full screen shot image is almost certainly that fan art, it fits near perfectly, the close one, not as much, and the colors are a bit different. But… Yeah, actually, I just realized the eye is a lot smaller on that close image, if you compare it to the original screenshot, it’s eye is a lot larger on the head and closer to the head spine.

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  260. I dont believe the Greninja and Chespin ones,but Hawlucha seems kinda legit….but then again,there’s so many photoshop masters out there..

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  261. I honestly want some Pokemon Fusions thrown in here somewhere…Honestly just think about how amazing some of the fusions would be if GameFreak took some of the fan art that’s been made of some of them and put them in there as experiments that Team Flare uses and would be able to catch and train…….

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  262. I would like to see how Fairy was discovered. IMO I made a theory that professors like Oak discovered fairy as an enhanced version of the Normal type, and was evolved from regular non-Fairy Pokemon who required defense from the Fighting types, Dark types, and due to explicit use against dragon types (ie using them in battles). This knowledge lead them to develop a strength and change itself in a form of self defense and learn to make themselves strong towards dragons, and ultimately resisting them all together by process of research.

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    • It would be nice to see if they actually added that discovery into the story. However, that didn’t really happened in Gen II with Dark and Steel. Yet, the stories in Pokemon are now more detailed.

      According to Masuda, apparently from what people have been saying, the storyline in X&Y is more detailed. Don’t Quote me on this lol

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  263. I heard no information could leak until the 4th when the contract between the two parties is over.. So at this point everything is just speculation.

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  264. I’m expecting it to get a 10/10 on IGN.
    And I hope it sells well.
    Maybe I’ll finally stop hearing news on gtav aka ( the most over hyped game of all time )

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  265. i just came back, i was here before update 1 and left, so can anybody tell me if they’ve been confirmed? and the Chespin evo… is it real? and can someone give me the name (i can’t read it for the life of me)

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    • Eh, not really, we know it’s meant to be ninjay, and that’s kind of a classic ninja pose, and the sharing of poses across Pokemon lines isn’t uncommon. There are other reasons to be suspicious of Graninja.

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  266. What is the likelihood of the game only having 70 new Pokemon being true? Because if that’s the case, this generation would have the fewest new Pokemon out of all of them ‘-_-

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  267. What I’m really curious about, though, is how many unique move animations will each Pokemon have since the game is in 3D now? Will Charmander do Mega Kick differently than Hitmonlee? If you think about it, the possibilities seem endless 😮

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    • I think each Pokemon will have separate animations for physical moves and special moves. Blaziken, for instance, kicked when it performed Blaze Kick. And when it performed Overheat, it kinda stuck its claws out and roared. There’ll probably be one more animation for the status screen. That’s probably, me thinks.

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  268. Here is what is bound to happen-
    (3 Pokemon leaks and more in one day)
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    (10 Pokemon revealed the next day)
    The more they assume. the more real leaks will appear, and the happier the community will get! I hate leaving and coming back and seeing 450 NEW COMMENTS when it is just gibberish and random conversations and has nothing to do w/ leaks XD

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  269. I love what Watch the Birdie from Neogaf has to say about these leaks:

    “Greninja, Hawlucha, and Binacle, along with the overworld shot and the
    picture of Quilladin and Emolga, were posted by one dude on PokeBeach
    Forums in a short span of time. That’s why I think they’re authentic.

    Usually leaks are one or two shots, and they’re usually just Pokemon in a
    battle seen from the front or behind. We have multiple shots, such as
    in a Status Screen, an overworld shot, and an overhead shot of two
    existing Pokemon that’s not from an official source as far as I know.

    All these people on /vp/ are taking advantage of a likely legitimate
    leak and creating their own Fakemon (notice they never post more than
    just a back/front shot of them in battle), or trying to play a reverse
    con and convince everyone these were fake by faking more screenshots
    using the originals as base.

    It’s what happened with the Starter Evolutions in Gen V, we had people
    claiming they made them…but in every situation, they never posted the
    original images they photoshopped because they didn’t exist.

    I’ve got a good eye for legitimate Pokemon I’d say, I was one of the few
    championing Mewtwo Y when it leaked, and I think Greninja, Binacle, and
    Hawlucha are authentic.”

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  270. I’m not sure if this has been mentioned or talked about, but will we see animations for Abilities at all? Like when Blaze activates a Pokemon’s flame gets bigger or something.

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  271. I have a question. Will Pokemon that we get from the GTS website for Black/White Black 2/White 2 be considered ‘hacked’ Pokemon or will I be able to trade them from my games to X & Y? I don’t know if they’d be legit =/ I didn’t give them moves that they couldn’t learn, though.

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  272. I’m starting to like these pokemon. Although I hope the Greninja is fake; mainly because I want the final forms to be a surprise. And as a heads up, I will not be on here (I’ll try not to anyway) on the 12th. Too many spoilers and I won’t have my copy yet.

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  273. Hmmmm, I looked at Greninja more closely and it just looks off. The symmetry on his little head horn things is messed up (can’t see the white one on the other side, and it’s not even because of foreshortening.) Also, where is his torso? It’s barely noticeable because his thigh is more pronounced, not to mention way bigger than the other one. To finish, his stance is just plain awkward (and the foreshortening, again, is very poor) and his feet/hands are not consistently touching the floor (they are uneven in position.) This could be possible if the original artist wanted a dynamic pose that used foreshortening, but it wasn’t executed well.

    Also, Hawlucha’s number of feathers in each wing is completely inconsistent. The left wing has 6 feathers, while the other one has 4. And the Chespin 3rd evo has been confirmed fake by Serebii.

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  274. So…When I wake up tomorrow will the final Fennekin form be released…. or? Do I just kind of not need to wake up lol. No school, so I don’t need to and yeah.

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    • “Pokemon’s for kids. It’s not a real series.”

      Then take a look at the results of polls like this. Seriously, Pokemon is a force to be reckoned with. Did you see it in the character battle? I think Pokemon characters dominated the semifinals (Pikachu, Mewtwo, Pokemon Trainer, Squirtle, Charizard… I think it was 5/9 that were Pokemon characters, leaving just Samus, Snake, Megaman, and Draven).

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      • My dad was shocked to find out most Pokemon players are 17 – 21, no offence to people who are younger or older! That was just an average!

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        • Most general gamers are averaged in their middle aged years. Just to disprove people who seem to think people grow out of video games.

          Honestly Pokemon is targeted at kids, but it is still enjoyable for all ages. Kind of like Disney and pretty much..anything. I hate this kind of discrimination…the anime is made very childish, which ruins people’s impersonation of what Pokemon is due to stereotyping.

          And.

          http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f278/katietiedrich/comic146.png

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          • Also, anyone who grew up on the anime and phased it out as they got older still had the games to fall back on. When I was ~15 years old and Pokemon games weren’t holding me like they used to with me just being happy with anything, I discovered the intricate world of EV training and battling without 4 STAB moves on my starter. It rekindled my love for Pokemon, and its various aspects are great for people of any age. I never would have dreamed of completing the Pokedex when I was 10, but now that I’m almost 20, I just took it as another challenge.

          • I love Pokemon, but they are just games too. I got really bored, I couldn’t even finish Plat and White. I did finish White 2 but not much post game stuff. The magic just…faded. X and Y is making me feel confident that it’ll bring back that magic that I felt as a kid.

          • lol at that comic. That was what it was like for me with Middle School being their High and my High being their college. When I got to high school, I realized that people just didn’t care what you played and it was okay to be yourself.

        • My dad plays Pokemon 😛

          He’s funny, because he’d steal my DS to play Yugioh games on it, so we bought him his own DS Lite and got him Pokemon Black when it came out. He complained that it was a kid’s game, but that didn’t stop him from docking over 500 hours between that and Black 2!

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  275. So I love Dae and all the banning he’s been doing So i drew him so pictures to let everyone know Dae means business but still loves us all! what do y’all think?

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  276. Just saying why doesn’t everyone just wait for the big day
    But I think that they could actually pull off the big reveal of pokemon before the release and still get to about 110 to150 of new pokemon because that new show instead of pokemon smash starts on Saturday and that is said to be big and then we won’t find out a couple of pokemon until the day because of event only pokemon

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  277. I think this year has gone so fast I thought waiting for x and y would seem like a life time but I only seem to have blinked and it’s just round the corner!! :O
    With all the leaks and info being released it’s going to be a SLOW few days.

    At this moment in time I feel like a level 19 magicarp ready evolve and destroy all.

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  278. 5000+ comments in 24 hours, the fact that the site keeps making safari close….October 12th is gonna be hell
    (Side note, I’ve just realised that Disqus is supposed to sounds like discuss, my mind is now blown)

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    • It’s actually been brought up before…and it was confirmed fake. It was said to be almost a replica of a fan art of the original image, just flipped and resized

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      • Ah, thanks! I figured as much. I think I’m just going to say everything’s fake until the official website has it, it pops up on Pokémon Direct/Smash, or GF themselves say so lol

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  279. Then again… A person trying to create a rumour would never give a fighting type a psychic type move, because it would become unbelievable. But the fact that extra sensory is there, kind of makes me feel it’s real.

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    • Let’s hypothetically say that Greninja will be like Poliwrath (for simplicity – though I hope not!). Poliwrath can learn Psychic and Hypnosis and it’s Water/Fighting. So, maybe Game Freak is letting that type of setting follow through (again assuming Greninja is real and it follows Poliwrath’s moveset scheme).

      http://pokemondb.net/pokedex/poliwrath

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    • As much as I would absolutely love that to be true, it screams fake ( closed doors event in Montreal… Yeah, No, I dont think so). It’s just wishful thinking. If only it were true… I love Hawlucha but am dissapointed by the others.

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  280. Actually the photo of Greninja is not real. The font on the moves is different than the legit image of Froakies moves. Also the artwork doesn’t look like its been made by Ken Sugimori for Greninja and Hawlucha, sorry to burst your bubble pokefans!

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    • i hate to say it, but i actually don’t think the font /is/ different. i just looked at the screenies on serebii and it looks the same. i still hope to gosh that this thing is a fake, though. the tongue-scarf thing is stupid as heck. how does the poor thing eat?! its tongue is way too thick to probably fit in its mouth without choking! imagine having to wrap your tongue around your neck… i wouldn’t be surprised if it drooled everywhere??

      i don’t know, i don’t like any of these “leaks”. hope they’re ALL fake. especially that weird barnacle thing.

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  281. Look at the top 3 pic hte one of Greninja and hte 2 of Hawlucha look at the pokeballs, in the Greninja pic there are 3 pokeballs (one containing greninja) a greatball and ultraball and a masterball ok in the Hawlucha pic in the middle there 6 pokeballs all normal pokeballs, and the last pic (top right) of Hawlucha there 3 pokeballs and one greatball (containing Hawlucha) but in the middle pic there is no greatball yet there is Hawlucha, I’m gonna call fake on this one.

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    • When in battle, they always show poke balls, never what kind of ball they’re in. As for the lack of poke balls the picture is cut off

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  282. More than 5000 comments! This is more than when Corocoro leaked in August! That time we got 4000 comments, if you remember. Imagine PJN on October 12th!

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  283. The Chespin evo was easily fake! Looks at the image. The HP Bar and EXP Bar are fake. There are no shadows on the Pokemon! Also, it’s evo has some off shading! It was easy to find it fake!

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  284. Hey! I won’t say who I am but I’ll let you in on some new info about the upcoming games ‘Pokemon X and Pokemon Y’ that I received from a fellow NZ Pokemon fan, he has sent this e-mail to a couple of other people judging from the e-mail contacts.

    He claims to have played the new games through his ‘friend’ that works at EB games who got a copy of the games for his ‘in-store’ review. I’m not sure if it’s real or not but who knows!

    He says:

    “- There are over 100 Pokemon, I won’t go into the exact number but it is more than 100 and a less then the 156 Pokemon of the previous games ‘Pokemon Black and Pokemon White’
    It’s a good substantial amount of Pokemon that I’m highly sure that everyone will be happy with.
    I won’t reveal the names of these Pokemon in case I get in trouble so I’ll just describe them!

    – There are a lot of unique typing’s that haven’t been seen before! the best in my opinion being a Electric/Fire type!

    – The Starters final evolved forms are of that, that has been rumored, Grass/Dark, Fire/Psychic and Water/Fighting.

    – Chespin’s final evolution – Grass/Dark is very round and spiky, lots of spikes all over it’s body, its spikes are a sort of armor and it also holds a giant spike like a sword.

    – Fennekin’s final evolution – Fire/Psychic is very majestic looking, it now holds the stick it use to have as a Braixen and the flame on it is a lot bigger, it’s tail is longer and more sleek, it’s ears are very pointy and the fur in it’s ears is longer with puffs at the end of it, it’s fur is longer too, almost looking like a dress/gown of sorts.

    – Froakie’s final evolution – Water/Fighting is a lot more sleek and looks fast! it’s almost completely dark blue and has black coloured spots on it’s face, it has some white markings still but not many, the bubbles around it’s neck is also longer.

    – Swirlix can be found after the first gym it evolves into a pure Fairy Type, it looks more like a dog now and has a bigger tongue and drool dripping from it’s mouth, it’s paws/ears are larger and it has a swirl of ‘fur’ on it’s had now and it’s tail looks like a lollypop.

    – Spritzee evolves into a Fairy/Dark type, it looks like a cross between a Flamingo and a human, it’s quiet creepy actually…it has wings like Lugia’s as in they’re not shaped like wings but more like arms, it’s beak is bigger with a black marking on the tip of it, it’s eyes are more evil looking too. It has White feathers for a tail. It’s now a dull Pink colour.

    – A new Wolf Pokemon that is Ice/Normal type, it’s soooooooooo cute! it’s a little puppy with white fur and big bight blue eyes, it has 2 black marks on it’s back and 2 black spots above it’s eyes and a little black puffy tail, it evolves into a Ice/Dark type Wolf, much larger and more menacing, it still has it’s bright blue eyes, it has dark gray fur and 2 white spots above it’s eyes now, it’s 2 black marks on it’s back become spikes of fur with white tips, it’s tail is bigger with a white tip also, it has 2 long fangs sticking out of it’s mouth also.

    – A new Fire/Rock type that looks like a little walking Volcano, has a similar appearance to Snorunt as in body shape, it evolves twice.

    – A new Moth Pokemon, it’s a Bug/Psychic type, it’s little and cute, it has a white body with long yellow antennas and black wings with a yellow crescent on each wing, it evolves.

    – You get given a Pokemon Egg from the daycare upon arriving, the man says that a trainer left their Pokemon there and when he came back he didn’t want the Pokemon egg so you take it. It hatches into one of any of the pre-evolved Pokemon (Pichu, Elekid, Magby, Happiny, Togepi, Whynaut, Munchlax etc…)

    – There are a total of 11 Legendary Pokemon.

    3 Game Mascots, 5 Side Legend, 2 Event Legends and 1 Pixie Legend.

    – The 3 Main Mascots have to do with Life/Peace and Death/Destruction and the 3rd being responsible for keeping things moving forward in the world (I’m not sure how to word that but things like beginning’s and endings I think?).

    – The 5 Side Legends have their own legend, 4 of them are ‘brothers’ and the other one is their ‘noble steed’

    – The 2 Event Legends have to do with the Past and Future, the Past one accidentally falls through time to present time and the Future one has something to do with coming from the future to stop an event that will destroy the Kalos Region.

    – The 1 Pixie Legend has to do with bringing luck.

    – Pokemon that become Fairy type are Marill, Azumaril, Mawlie, Jigglypuff, Wigglytuff, Cleffa, Clefairy, Clefable (All become pure Fairy type) Togepi, Togetic, Togekiss (All become Fairy/Flying minus Togepi) Dunsparce, Gardevior and the Chansey line.

    – Some attacks that become Fairy Type are Sweet Kiss, Metronome, Moonlight, Swift, Charm and Wish.

    – There ARE Pre-evolutions and Evolutions of past generation Pokemon, there’s not as many as Generation 4 though. I won’t say which Pokemon have them but there are a couple of fan favorites getting Evolutions which actually look really cool!

    – All the previous generations starters get Mega-Evolutions, but a couple more Pokemon getting Mega-Evolutions are Raichu, Farfetch’d, Tauros, Dragonite, Steelix, Heracross, Miltank, Camerupt, Sharpedo, Tropius, Floatzel, Cherrim, Togekiss, Haxorus, there are a few others too.

    – Not all starters mega-evolutions, mega-stones can be found in the game, this is probably to do with special giveaway events.

    The Gym’s types are Bug, Fairy, Electric, Fighting, Rock, Grass, Dark and Fire
    The Elite Four’s types are Normal, Flying, Water and Steel
    The Champion uses mix types/the types left over (Ground, Poison, Ghost, Ice, Psychic, Dragon)

    – ‘Spike Barrage’ is a Grass type attack that attacks the foe with spikes 1-5 times, it raises the users Attack and Defense but lowers it’s speed.

    – ‘Belch’ is a Poison Type attack, it causes damage and has a high chance of Poisoning the foe.

    – ‘Aqua Blade’ is a Water Type attack, it slashes the foe with blades of water, it raises the Attack and Special of the user.

    – ‘Glow Punch’ is a Fairy Type attack, it punches the foe with a fist of burning light, it can also cause confusion or can burn the foe.

    – ‘Fire Pulse’ is a Fire Type attack, the user releases a blast of fire from it’s body, it causes damage to all those on the field (Good for Horde battles) even the user gets damage, it however raises Attack and Special Attack of the user, it can also Burn the user and foes.”

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  285. Pokejungle, you YOURSELF confirmed that the Chespin evo was fake, and you still keep it up on your website? I’ll be over at the beach from now on

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  286. a Nintendo direct is going to be on tomorrow morning at 7 focusing on 3ds and wii u games according to Serebii’s official twitter account

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  287. Y’know what kind of Pokemon would be awesome? A Fire/Poison type. I had this idea about a Flaming Roach Pokemon called Flaroach, or even a Bombardier Beetle that could be Fire/Poison type.

    Other animals for Pokemon I had in mind are:

    1.) Peacock
    2.) Quetzal
    3.) Killer Whale
    4.) Kirin
    5.) Anaconda
    6.) Stegosaurus
    7.) Aye Aye
    8.) Leopard Seal
    9.) Cockatoo
    10.) Mosquito
    11.) Flea
    12.) House Fly
    13.) Tarantula
    14.) Honey Badger
    15.) Egret
    16.) Lamprey
    17.) Pheasant
    18.) Kangaroo Rat

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  288. The reason I think this is fake is that Frogadier’s evo loses the bubble scarf/cape. Why would a Pokémon lose its most prominent feature?

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    • im thinking there all fake..with all the talk on this thread weve basically picked apart all the images and all of them have factors making them seem fake. as for the guy leaking below…im not sure about that i mean the leaks sound legit but i see no evidence to support it so im kinda on the line about that

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          • if you think about it. i think it will be either Froakie or Chespin. First, we will get torchic so if we get Fennekin it will be kind of redundant. So I am choosing Froakie. Then Bulbasaur. 🙂

          • Well, Torchic is limited time, so we will eventually not get it. Besides, Fennekin is shaping up to be a Fire/Psychic, so that gives it something Torchic doesn’t have.

          • But Torchic can mega evolve. Fennekin cant. I think that this generation though has a lot of good psychic pokemon so I am not that worried. Fennekin is so cute though.

          • Fair enough. But no Kalos Pokemon can, but I don’t think that should be the deciding factor. Sure, I like Mega Evolutions for the most part, but Im not going to build my team for playing the game around it.

    • Normally I went Grass too, but I’m a dog lover so fennekin will most likely be my pick, but Froakie is the first good water starter since Totodile

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    • I am defenatly going to pick Froakie because he looks strong and may finally be a fast water starter, hes is also very chill! But honestly I also like the other two a lot.

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      • At first i was going to choose Fennekin due to my long history of fire starters but Chespin grew on me so much and i felt a connection
        So Chespin and me will be best buds on my birthday!

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    • I’m picking Fennekin because A) I think it’s adorable, I love the tufts of fur coming out of its ears, B) I never really choose the fire starter and I wanna switch it up, and C) I love playing the Mage in RPGs, and Fennekins evolutions seem to be heading in that direction 🙂

      … Plus my boyfriend is choosing Chespin, and fire beats grass 😛

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    • I really want Fennekin and Charmander (Drought combo w/mega charizard, Fennekin evo, Talonflame & Pyroar… **drooling**) so there better be good new grass pokes to balance out my team.

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  289. What are some unique type combinations that you guys are hoping to see? I want to see:

    1.) Fire/Steel
    2.) Fire/Ice
    3.) Dragon/Ice
    4.) Psychic/Dark
    5.) Ghost/Dragon
    6.) Steel/Dark
    7.) Fairy/Dragon
    8.) Bug/Dragon
    9.) Psychic/Electric
    10.) Ground/Flying

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  290. I don’t mind the new Pokemon, I just really don’t want the text that said only 70 new Pokemon to be true. That’d be really upsetting to me

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    • It is highly unlikely that it is true. Each new generation introduces 100+ Pokemon, and I also believe that Mega Evolutions don’t count as ‘New’ Pokemon if we’re speaking about the Pokedex, so I’m sure we’ll be getting 100+ this time around, too. It doesn’t seem like GameFreak to do a complete 180 and shorten the roster, especially with a new generation and location.

      Then again, this is the era of DLC content, so I have no idea what to think anymore T_T

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  291. So I got my hands on a copy of Pokemon Y today, I can’t tell you how though because I’m afraid of getting caught. Anyways, here’s a picture of a new Pokemon I just encountered. I apologize for the blurry picture, I was just so excited to share this with you all that I couldn’t keep the camera still. And please excuse the bottom screen, it broke when I dropped my 3DS.

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  292. for the pie pokemon thing there has been more info and its name is Binacle, is #21 in the Coastal Kalos Pokedex. Aerodactyl supposedly has a Mega Evolution as well. Hawlucha’s color scheme appears to vary going by the two sets of photos below.

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  293. If Gen VI disappoints me, then I demand Gen VII with at least 5 cross-gen évolutions and Rubber-type Pokemon. I also want the version mascots to be legendary Bug-types. Here’s what’s on my mind:

    Pokemon Quatz: Legendary Bug/Fire, huge and scarab-like, brought the gift of the Sun

    Pokemon Granite: Legendary Bug/Psychic, huge and moth-like, brought the gift of the moon

    Pokemon Limestone: Legendary Bug/Dragon, classified as the Twilight Pokemon, huge and darner-like

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    • Gen 7 they should hold o contest to where they take ffan art in for testing and then not reveal whos art they had chosen but in the credits they out the persons name!

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    • That legendary bug/fire sun deity you described is basically volcarona…and cresselia and darkrai are the lunar pokemon…yeah not gonna happen sorry

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  294. I have no job and my life has no meaning I know I’m going to edit some screen shots and pretend I leaked new pokemon but then make an elaborate plan and make everyone who thought they were real believe there fake.. Or are they? #Evil

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  295. These leaks are all curious. I believe the Hawlucha thing COULD be real, but we won’t know until more information is released. Chances are Binacle is fake, although I could be wrong. Greninja however maybe true, and if it is then it is a good design. Not long now guys! 🙂

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  296. I actually have the X & Y version already & too captures my self on my instagram, i jus dont want to get in trouble for leaking shit

    Instagram: Dimpzilla

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  297. I’m guessing in the Nintendo Direct tomorrow we’ll get some news about X and Y. They’ll probably discuss about the launch, and maybe an official reveal of Oorotto.

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  298. You know what I want to know? How can a Pokemon as small as Flabebe take on other Pokemon? It must have some pretty incredible powers, because it looks so frail! Hell, one Ember from a Charmander would take it out.

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  299. The lack of leaks suggest to me that the first batch were all fake…. I mean if I was a leaker I’d get as much out as soon as I could before I got shut down…. There’s no difference In leaking 1 or 101 they’ll still get caught…. Might as well go out with a bang!!

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      • Well the guy spreading the pictures to Pokebeach apparently ran off after the news got viral, but there’s no proof that he was the original leaker even, because the original leak was on 4chan…plus, all the text was bullshit, so why believe the pictures are legit?

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  300. I think the first batch is fake judging by the fact that there were no more leaks today. I think the three overworld shots of the rock garden and Pokemon Center were real and that the rest was made in hype of those leaks. We haven’t seen a Fennekin evo and the Chespin one was proven fake as well last night, it makes me think that this is all by the same person and they took their time making each one and releasing it when the time fit. Flood gates open on October 4th though!

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  301. So how is paying for the Pokemon Bank going to work? Do we have to use a credit card or something? And is it a monthly price or is it yearly? I read somewhere that it’d only be $5 a year.

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      • Ah! That’s great! Not bad at all. I’ll definitely be needing that so I can get all of my Pokemon from Black 2/White 2 to X & Y.

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        • Actually, If you download in December when it releases, it’s free until January. Meaning if you’re only gonna use it for transfer, you don’t need to pay.

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          • Wait a minute…The Pokemon Bank and transfer don’t come with the launch of the game? We have to wait 2 months for it?

          • Exactly. It will keep the first Wifi XY tourneys free of RNGd and meticulously bred older Pokemon. Although 2 months is more than enough time to breed a nice team for Wifi. Plus the program routes out hacks, so hacked mons from the phone app, Pokegen etc will not be transferable. Which is very very awesome.

          • Does Pokegts count as a Pokegen? I don’t think it is. It sends me Pokemon through the GTS. I choose choose what moves and level it is and what items or abilities it has, but other than that the Pokemon have original trainers.

          • Well, the fact that PokeGTS is a false GTS and that Gamefreak are probably well aware of it doesn’t bode well for that possibility. Plus, PokeGTS Pokemon are all marked with a special ribbon that shows they are copied, which Im not sure if the ribbon is obtainable through normal in game means- so its highly possible that they can just block all Pokemon that have ribbons such as that.

          • I checked my Pokemon I got from the PokeGTS and none of them actually have the ribbon, and I was also able to deposit my Pokemon for trading on the PokeGTS. So it would seem that they are being treated as ‘legit’.

          • It depends on how you use Pokegen. I highly doubt the system would be able to pick out Pokegenerated Pokemon so long as the Pokemon is as legit as possible. This isn’t a new system…it’s basically the bad egg but less game breaking.

          • Very true, but my concern is mainly the hacked up garbage with broken EVs or movesets. Those are going to be stopped at the door for sure. If someone took the time to find legitimate PIDs with IVs to match, and the mon is totally legit otherwise, I could care less, since my RNGd mons can stand on equal footing with hacks stat wise anyways.

    • You can use a credit card…if you want. It’s easier to just buy a Nintendo prepaid card. My brother got me a $50 one for my birthday…SET.

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    • Fake it would make sense to release 3/4ths of the Dex before release. They would be no reason to purchase the game. The Main focus of a new generation is the New Pokemon. So far there have been probably about 41 released Pokemon (not counting Megas) some of them have other evolutionary stages so it would be about 50 at the most that has been revealed/expected (give or take). It would be extremely stupid of GameFreak to do so.

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    • Pokemon has never had a midnight release. You might get better answers asking if the store will open earlier, as many have in the past due to an excess of preorders.

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      • Actually, someone was just saying about a week ago how their local GameStop was doing a midnight release for X & Y, so assuming they weren’t lying it’s possible that any given store may be doing one, too.

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        • I recall them asking or hoping that there would be one.

          There IS one in New York City from 8 PM – 1 AM on the 11th. Nintendo World holding a special.

          Other than that, managers would have to be persuaded and there would have to be a ton of preorders for that store. Also, since the targeted market are kids, it’s unlikely they would promote midnight releases.

          …really considering the stupid NY thing. -__- (lives in Jersey)

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          • I would definitely go if I were you, for the experience of a big fan event if nothing else. Plus, think of all of the StreetPasses you’d get! Start off X/Y with a nice, full PSS list.

          • Well here at my college they said they might be doing one at our on campus gamestop, but they weren’t sure. It would make sense because a lot of college kids play pokemon and I would definitely would be at the front of that line. Plus it’d only be fair seeing as how Japan is still going to be getting it before the rest of us because of the time difference. I just really hope they have a midnight release. It’d only make sense. Aren’t they already going to have the copies in the store anyway? Might as well give them to the people who are willing to go at 12 am

  302. I think it’s all fake even Hawlucha since in the second image there’s a bright light above the “3DS” and yet you can’t see the 3DS camera. That’s all I got.

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      • True but I still think you’d be able to see the camera…then again I looked at my own 3DS in a somewhat dim room and could barely see the camera…

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    • Of ALL the pictures the leaker could have taken he had to take the most blurry/whited out pictures as possible. You’d think if leakers had the guts to breach contracts they’d invest in capture cards at the least.

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      • It doesn’t have to be fake, but it doesn’t seem right. However, since they made so many Mega Pokémon, I do have a bad feeling that we may get fewer new monsters than we’d like.

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        • But the Mega Pokemon aren’t even ‘New’ Pokemon. I don’t even think they’ll be in the Pokedex, or if they are they’ll just be shown as an alternate form. It’s not like the Mega Pokemon take up a numbered slot.

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          • They still take time to design and program, which would take away from the time they would otherwise be using to make new Pokémon.

          • Unless they already had new or unused Pokemon designs in the works. I think people are worrying too much about it.

          • Exactly! I’m sure that we’ll be getting a very hefty amount of new Pokemon, especially since this is a brand new generation and also a new region. 70 new Pokemon seems way too small of a number to put in an entire new region.

          • They are including a very large number of old Pokemon as well though. So who knows. I highly doubt it…at least 90 at the least.

          • But the old Pokemon have nothing to do with the new Pokemon. I really think that people are taking things out of context instead of waiting to see what the real truth is. These leakers are probably just trying to start chaos because it gets their rocks off, and they’re succeeding because people are buying it and overreacting.

          • I think I read in an interview somewhere that they have actually been working on X and Y since Diamond and Pearl’s release since they wanted to release it worldwide at the same time. I don’t know if it’s true, but with all the work going into these games, it sounds plausible to me.

          • For the region. They could have started working on the actual Pokemon a lot earlier, especially if they wanted to get the MegaEvolutions thing worked out.

          • Except that he took a one month vacation after the production of Black and White and since he’s the director there’s no way he could do that in the middle of production.

  303. Look at the image on serebii about the new pokemon smash type show. In the background at the top left is what looks like chespins final evolution or at least a new pokemon. Check it out and you’ll see.

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  304. I found a pic of fennikin’s and froakie’s final evolvement that leeks real it’s drawn profesinaly every website i saw that had it weren’t there the next day here’s a pic i shot of them tell me your opinion

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    • Saw this a bit ago as well. Personally I see nothing that makes it more believable than any of the other photos we’ve seen recently.

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  305. 3 new screen shots showing our dear friend braixen evolving
    If you look closely around the bottom of the image you can see what looks to be a broomstick shape..

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  306. I’m gonna post my teams so far:
    X: Quilladin,Talonflame,Dedenne,Tyrantrum,Clauncher,Meowstic
    Y:Braixen,Hawklucha,Aurorus,Helioptile,Meowstic(unless braixen evo is psy.),Skrelp
    Comment what you think on these teams.
    I would be annoyed if Hawklucha is fake because i would have to find another flying besides noivern and vivillion. I dont really like the Froakie evo line I will probbably just use it for my second playthrough on X(which will be my main). My two favorite Pokemon in the new generation are Clauncher and Meowstic.
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    Mr.Meowstic

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  307. pokemon speculations and conspiracy time 😀

    Pokemon are alien life forms from the planet Zenon, one day in another parallel world pokemon have landed on earth, we befriend them, learn the ways they interact, study their native habitat, as well watch them mate in their own environment. Others use them as weapons of war. Poke world was once a peaceful place…everything changed when Team Flare attack. Only the pokemon master can master all 6 mega evolutions, he has a lot to learn, but i believe Ash can save the world!

    To sum it all up my conspiracy, fairytales and pokemon are real!

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  308. Does nobody notice that hawlucha (Dear God I hope that is not a real thing) is facing the correct direction in that screenshot, but the console image is reversed? For comparison, look at the tubeworm one which is distinctly facing the opposite direction with the console still reversed. At least one of them is fake, possibly the whole batch.

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  309. This final of Chespin, though already confirmed fake, is sooo much better looking than chesnaught. :/ so sad! And Greninja looks really awkward. It has too much line edges and it looks too skinny.

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  310. that armadillo like pkmn intended to be chespin evolution looks way, miles, no light years better than crappy chesnaught…
    very dissapointing 3rd stage evolution for the starters, except greninja, he’s ok, not very good, but ok.

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