These are not necessarily real images, their authenticity has not been established. Please do NOT treat this as a news post, instead enjoy commenting & speculating. We will update you if any details come out to (dis)prove any of this.

We’ve marked the main image warning of Pokémon X & Y spoilers so we won’t be hiding images in these posts.

The pictures above purport to be from a review copy of Pokémon X. As you can see, they claim that this is the final evolution of Froakie, Greninja, and a new Flying/Fighting-type Pokémon called Hawlucha. The latter Pokémon also has a new Fighting-type attack called Flying Press.

UPD2: A new image has surfaced claiming to show the final evolution of Chespin from behind. This is from a different person than the person who posted Greninja & Hawlucha. UPD: Confirmed fake

The poster also mentioned that XP is also much easier to earn and that entire parties will get some from battles with the use of EXP Share, a key item found early in the game. He also mentioned that XY only introduce around 70 new Pokémon. He also said that there barely is any endgame, with you only being able to catch Mewtwo and the Z legendary.

UPD1: A new Pokémon has supposedly been photographed. No other details are currently known. Remember, we do not know if these Pokémon are real or fake, so please don’t consider them as either until they are proven one or the other.

UPD3: We broke the site record for most visits in one day! Also, be wary of all the ‘leaks’ out there, there are so much (blatant) fakes going around that the legit leaks may get lost in it!

Looking forward to reading your comments!

<3 PJ

Featured Thread: X/Y team From now and then by MacSkiddo

  • Magossa

    Is the scarf his tongue?

  • Shinjiru

    Hmm…why they can’t just take pictures and leak them, how GF will know who doing that?

    • J-Biz

      Well they can track the IP of person who first uploads the images, which can give them information of the country and area the uploader comes from. Not a lot of review copies go out so it wouldn’t take too long to launch a small investigation and find the offending reviewer.

      • Shinjiru

        but they can send all images to someone from different country, that person can upload them again

        • J-Biz

          Correct, but even then a thorough investigation into breach of information embargo could lead to the leaker being identified through checking email accounts etc. Not many reviewers would care enough about leaking a Pokemon Starter and risk losing their job just so we can see them 12 days early.

          • Shinjiru

            hmmmm…I don’t think, that would be risky, after all there are sd cards, rar passwords, private mails ect. it shouldn’t be that hard to do o_O

  • Believer

    These have to be real, too much detail

    • hen da man

      That is generally reason to think it is fake as well.

  • hen da man

    I like the names Greninja and Hawlucha (not Hawklucha) but I really don’t like these… Also I did hear that the Exp. Share is back to the Exp. All which is interesting and I like it 🙂 And only 70 new Pokemon? Urghh

    • Shinjiru

      this must be bullshit, because it’s like they made it for money, next gen we’ll get 50? it always been 100-150

      • hen da man

        As others have said though, there are mega evolutions as well so maybe that is why they have cut it down a bit.

        • Shinjiru

          it’s still don’t makes any sense xD they should know, that new gen is atractive when it have 100-130 new monsters, than mix of old ones evolutions

  • Yoshiya Kiryu

    They said that the author admitted photoshopping them. Then again, its 4chan.

    Also, 70 new Pokemon? Even with Megalutions it lets me down.

    • PJ

      I saw that thread but the OP never showed any sort of proof that the images were his

  • Vrdnt25

    I always imagined a Fighting/Flying type to be a Garuda of sorts.

  • Zach the Lucario

    They’re fake.

    • hen da man

      Confirmed?

      • Zach the Lucario

        Yes.

        • Digo =)

          Source?

        • Daniel

          no they weren’t. the same who said they were fake was anonymous

    • Sigurd2021

      Interested in hearing the source of that.

    • Zach the derp

      Where’s your proof? You can’t claim something based on.. because you want to

      • Starter’s don’t come in Great Balls. In the summary it clearly shows Frogadier was obtained in a great ball. Starters come in Pokeballs.

        • Sable

          Or it’s not the first Pokemon in the party. And it’s Pokeball is the one sticking out of the group.

          • I looked at the summary of the bird, and screamed laughing when I saw the move titled “Flying Press” a fighting type attack. These are horrible fakes if I’ve ever seen one.

          • MuhFugginMoose

            Or it can mean Flying Press as in the wrestling move. . .
            Cause everything with sky or Flying in their name has to be Flying type.

          • True. That move just sounds generic and fake to me. But after closer inspection and warming up to it, I actually think the Frogadier evo may be real now. I would hate for that bird to be real, but i’m liking it lol. I feel like a hypocrite. Maybe if it wasn’t such a low quality shot I wouldn’t be so angry lol

          • SadRedditor

            I looked at the summary of the bird, and screamed laughing when I saw
            the move titled “Sky Uppercut” a fighting type attack. These are
            horrible fakes if I’ve ever seen one.

          • codemonkey85

            Are you serious? http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Sky_Uppercut_(move)

            As far as I’m concerned Flying Press wouldn’t be that far out.

            EDIT: Oh wait, you’re being sarcastic. Ok.

    • CrispyAllDay

      rumors will just be rumors man. we just have to be patient and see it for ourselves in the actual game. there’s only 2 weeks left anyway. and in my country Indonesia we probably won’t get it at the exact date and have to wait for another 2 or 3 days which sucks -__-

  • belmad

    They look so fake.

  • Justin

    That final evo looks awful. I don’t think that it would be it. . .

    • cornas

      I think so too. Like why would the get rid of his main feature? Which in my opinion were the bubbles.

  • Weasle

    I hope they are fake, the evolution of frogadier looks terrible and has a terrible name. That and the the that there would only be 70 new pokemon would be a terrible disappointment if its real.

  • Digo =)

    WANNA KNOW WHAT I FEAR THE MOST NOW? Gamefreak releasing the other 30~50 pokémon in the “set” as DLC. I swear I will slap Masuda in the face with a table.

    • Shinjiru

      or maybe X and Y have pokemon differences? 70in X 70in Y? ;O this makes more sense for trades

      • Mike

        Wayyy too many exclusives for that to be possible.

    • I was just thinking this. Cause one of the codes on the website titled “Gottacatchemall” (how fitting) is called “XY738A” which IMO meants 738 total Pokemon in XY, version A. 89 new Pokemon. We will probably get another batch 60-70 batch of Pokemon in version B of XY sometime next year as DLC as you say. Or in sequel games or Hoenn remakes.

      Remember mewtwo’s source file name of “MewtwoX” and people didn’t want to believe it had two forms?

  • PokeTev

    Only 70 new pokemon? Hope this info is fake because that’s really disappointing.

    • PJ

      Sorry, it actually might be another person who said that. Authenticity of images is separate from the text rumor.

      Again, my apologies.

      • Daedardus

        No it’s not. First was the text, then came the images.

      • PokeTev

        Thanks for the clarifying, I feel better lol.

        • An article back from June says “Over 70 new Pokemon” lol uh-oh. We’re in trouble!!

          http://www.officialnintendomagazine.co.uk/52131/over-70-all-new-pokemon-x-and-y-screenshots-plus-new-details/

          • Une Lese

            Yeah I was concerned about that too but after looking some stuff up I’m fairly certain that they are referencing the number of screenshots in the article – “Over 70 all-new Pokemon X and Y screenshots”

            And what do you know. There are I think 72 screenshots there. So thankfully I don’t really think there is anything to support there being only 70 new Pokes so far.

          • seriously

            its screen shots, DUH that person showed 72 scree shots, these leaks are also fake i guarantee it, all you gullible sheep’s keep falling for this bull shyt every time a Pokemon is released. GOSH!

      • xo

        You’re really hot in that dp. I’d sit on your dick gladly

      • Mitchell McKelvey

        I hope another person is saying that bullshit because I might boycott XY if that’s the case.

      • similarity

        it seems like someone deliberately trying to downplay the games with dissatisfying rumors 😛

      • takopako

        thank you for that clarification!

    • Toshiro

      The lowest number of new Pokémon introduced in a new generation was 100 (Generation II). I certainly hope this rumor is false.

      • guest

        this can’t be real, the froakie final evo is missing the puffy white beard thing which has been getting bigger and the flying/fighting type has a camel toe….

        • Pangoro’sPal124

          Agreed! Also another leaker who claims she works for an Italian game company that is reviewing the game says Froakie’s final evolution is “Frogue”. Plus the Pokébeach leaker that said Inkay, Malamar, Meowstic and Pangoro were real, says it’s Water/Fighting type, covered in the dark blue we see on Frogadiers head, there is none of that dark blue “Greninja”!

          • Skrelpless1

            Yes but a game reviewer on neogaf said everything but three things the leaker said were false. Yet if I were to guess I would say that these were the three things that were true:
            – Reconfirmation that Meowstic has a pre-evolution named Espurr.
            – Reconfirmation that Froakie’s final evolution is Water/Fighting. It looks similar to a poison dart frog. The dark blue now takes over its body almost entirely.
            – The outfit your character wears at the start is colored to match what you’ve set as your favorite color in your 3DS settings. It can be changed easily though.
            Another thing, the leaker of the images took them down and called them fake. However people say this is just a coverup.

    • Dubb

      Are the review copies the whole game?

      • PokeTev

        Yep! The whole game bro.

        • Dubb

          Thanks

        • Strawberry_Pocky_Moose

          Lucky b*stards!

  • Pickles

    As if it’s real because I read that junuchi Masuda that that there are 600+ pokemon and closer to 700 pokemon and I really hopes it’s fake
    1. The two pokemon look crap
    2 .there should be like the biggest amount of new pokemon because x and y is one of the biggest games of pokemon
    Only time will tell

    • PokeTev

      Not necessarily in the past even numbered generation introduced less Pokemon. Generation 2 only brought 100 new Pokemon, and generation 4 brought 107 new Pokemon I think. Generation 6 should introduce around the same amount of Pokemon as Gen 2 and 4.

  • ????

    yes its the biggest because
    1. its a 3ds game
    2. its a huge 3ds game and
    3. maybe because there are almost all pokemon in this game

  • Pintar

    Thank you for the pics and info.

  • PokeTev

    What’s with the Greninja’s scarf tongue thing?

  • Titania,QueenOfFairyPokemon

    Please god be fake! Please Arceus be fake! Please if your gonna have new pokemon at least make it 110 please don’t screw-up a thing beginning to be good.

    • Shinjiru

      Arceus is and ONLY real!

  • Guest

    I think it fake
    Final stage of Froakie must have some black color like the second stage

  • EliteTrainerXeos

    Fake.

    41 Pokemon have already been revealed excluding Mega Evolution’s. There’s just no way they can some up a new Gen with 29 more.

    • Digo =)

      YOU SIR, HAVE A VERY GOOD POINT. What if the leaker meant there would be ANOTHER 70 pokémon, giving us around 110~120?

      • Pokefan

        The leaker said Xerneas is 715 in the pokedex, so he meant there are only 70 pokemon, which I believe it’s fake!

        • EliteTrainerXeos

          715-649= 66 leaving room for 3-4 of those event only Legendaires.

    • ghostycorp

      41 + 3 (final evo) + 1 (helioptile evo (i’m sure of it)) + 2 (swirlix/spritzee evo) + 1 (flabebe eva (could be)) + 1 (bunnelby evo) + 2 (clauncher/skrelp evo) + 1 (meowstic pre-evo (if espurr is real)) + 1 (Z legend) + 3 (if there’s a legend trio) that leaves at.. 54. I’m not really sure that there’ll be only 16 new undiscovered/unexpected Pokemon, and seeing that there’re soo many new Pokemon revelations compared to Gen IV announcement (Which are only 15ish pre-release pokemon if I remember) this is big chance gonna be a big roster

      • sheld999

        plus one more for fletching im sure he will have one more cause of the pokedex picture that came out few months ago

        • Quilladin394

          and orotto

    • Suicunesol

      Not that I want there to be only 70 new Pokemon, but something to consider is the number of Pokemon from old generations appearing as wild Pokemon in this game. To be honest, considering every Pokemon had to be redone with a new 3d model, GF might have wanted to make use of all that work by making old Pokemon appear more frequently, minimizing the need for making more new ones. It’s definitely not like Unova, in other words.

      • Next

        Except that they already have 3d models for pokemon from gen1-gen5, because of the 3d Pokedex app.

        • FyrenXSalamence

          I just have to ask, is it confirmed that GF is using the same models?

          • theclarinetist

            See my above comment (in case it doesn’t give you a notification) :3

          • FlyLikeAGShep

            That really doesn’t answer the question though. Just saying. Did Gamefreak actually confirm they used different models. If so citation. Cause to be honest they used the same variation of models between Pokemon Stadium all the way to Pokedex App adding new ones every Gen

        • theclarinetist

          They’re not the same models. It’s a completely different style.

          • Suicunesol

            I think they could possibly be the same models with a slightly lower poly count and lower res textures. It’s a waste of money to make 600+ new models when perfectly good ones already exist.

          • theclarinetist

            Touche. After a lot of comparing, it looks like the actual models are the same, and the majority or all of the poses are the same, but they’ve been reskinned with some very subtle tweaks. Subtle to the point where the tweaks may actually be just shit happening during the re-skinning process. (For instance, the spot on Bulbasaur’s left leg is in a different place)

            Of course, that’s judging just on the released screenshots we have.

  • Lol why would GF release 30+ new Pokemon if there’s only 70 new Pokemon? And how come instead of clouds Gren has a long tongue? Don’t believe it guys

    Friendly tip: NEVER believe a leak unless an official source confirms it or the leaker provides a shot of the overworld

  • cornas

    Since we’ve had 40 pokemon revealed and “supposedly there are only 70 does that mean will only have 30 truly new pokemon?

  • joker90

    If there’s something I’ve learned is that if the leak is too good it’s fake, if the leak has a bad design then it’s true.. So maybe that’s froakie evolution (actually we cannot even understand its design so maybe it is not bad at all)

  • Vincent Van Horn

    A blue frog with a long and pink tongue around its neck? Come on Game Freak, don’t piss me off!

    • Digo =)

      Bro, dont be a genwunner. Lickitung is a ~~thing~~ with a very big tongue and we love him.

      • zuhzoo

        Hey, it definitely does not make you a genwunner to not like one new pokemon… You are entitled to not have to love them all. It does look like a tongue around his neck, which is weird, but I think he’s okay myself.

  • QueenOfDiamonds

    These are fake because why out of nowhere Froakie/Frogadier got rid of the bubble clouds? Radical changes like that don’t happen unless it’s a chrysalis/shell evolution beforehand. Second, the tounge scarf? Was that pulled out of their ass last second or what? Hawlucha it’s physiology doesn’t scream fighter to me, now had Staraptor was being released for gen 6 I could believe it cause he has reach and the appearance to be a fighter. And finally a massive blow to these lies do you notice the status screens where their genders, names and items are listed? They are black while on confirmed demos and screenshots they are brown while the background with the pokeball insignia is a light tan, while these alleged pictures backgrounds are white.

    • blue

      You say this like Samurott didn’t happen.

      • belmad

        Somurott held the most important design element though: shells.

  • Draga32

    I think this is already confirm that this was fake!

    • PokePoke

      really?

  • PokePoke

    Really hope this is fake! I dont want Froakie to evolve into that!

  • samurottboy

    I hope its fake and it probably is because it looks horrible.
    Btw is this the same person who leaked the pokemon center?

  • Chrop

    1. Why would gamefreak only make 70 pokemon when they KNOW people are expecting around 140-150,
    2. He’s claiming that exp is easier to gain due to the exp share… IT’S ALREADY CONFIRMED! Trying to pass off confirmed things as “Leaks”
    3. They’re bad quality, if he really was playing the game then he obviously had the time and effort to get a video or… heck… A GOOD PICTURE?

    • King Phoenix

      There will be more pokemon than any other gen this has already been confirmed

      • G-SANtos

        No, what has been confirmed is that there will be more Pokémon available in the game than in any other Gen. What they said is that this is the first time you’ll be able to catch every Pokémon without having to transfer from previous games.

    • Alex Bajer

      My main issue is that fact that froakie v3’s typing isn’t revealed. It’s such a hot topic, you’d think he’d include it in the images, especially since he revealed that fly/fight guy.

  • Sceptile0998

    I don’t want this to be real, but it looks so legit especially the one with hawlucha in battle and greninja’s synopsis page.

  • Jimmone

    WHAT?!?!?! Surely if there’s 3 different pokedexes, there would be more that 70 new pokemon!!!!

    • but you have to think of all the national Pokemon though

    • zeldaoreonerd

      maybe they mean 70 new pokemon per pokedex!

  • FyrenXSalamence

    This is slightly off topic but I since this is a speculation page maybe it isn’t too bad? I have a theory about team Flare’s ultimate goal. But first, let’s see what we know about their intentions:
    1) They are collecting money by selling Pokemon and fossils

    2) They are trying to create a beautiful world
    I’m sure we’ve all heard the saying “Beauty is in the eye of the beholder”. So what if their idea of beauty is a non-individual dystopia? I couldn’t think of the word, but where everything is the same and there is no expression. I believe this is probable because:
    1) Life and Death are a cycle of change, and could just as easily represent different fashions and preferences going out of style.
    2) As we already know, X and Y are going to feature a lot of customization, for example Character Customization and grooming Furfrou. This would be good in contrast to the evil team’s goal.

    3) If the Pokebeach rumors are correct, this team will appear on TV in the beginning of the game (and probably later). This means Team Flare is going to use propaganda to encourage people to be like them and dress like them.

    This is just my hypothesis. I have no idea whether it will happen or not. I have to apologize, I had more to write but it’s morning so my brain is mush. I’d be suprised if this even made sense. Anywho what do you guys think?

    • Sceptile0998

      Those are some great ideas 🙂

      • FyrenXSalamence

        Thank You 🙂

    • Naeem M.

      Do you think they will use Inkay and Malmar

      • FennikSwirl

        I actually think they may use meowsticks since they look like fashionable Pokemon

        • FyrenXSalamence

          I could see that happening! It’d be so cool. But maybe some of the scientists or other “bosses” use them?

      • FyrenXSalamence

        If I had to guess, I’d say yes. Isn’t it part of Malamar’s description that it is often used for nefarious means? Or maybe there is another evil team??? Dun Dun Dunnn

        • Naeem M.

          Team Rocket

          • FyrenXSalamence

            YEESSSSSS!!! It would be awesome to have them come back! Then the protagonist would be stuck in the middle of a conflict like in Gen. 3!

    • djja123

      I Love it! Where do xerneas and Yyveltal come into play though?

      • FyrenXSalamence

        Thank You! To be honest, I’m still working on that part, but so far I’d say they are going to use Yveltal to wipe out the cities and fashion centers, etc. Then, the player will be asked to catch, or beg for the help of Xerneas. Then battle Yveltal as it is about to destroy uniqueness and expression! But that’s probably only for X and as I said earlier I’m still working on it. I’ll be sure to post when I’ve thought it out! Thank you again!

  • Caitlin

    Ahah this is going to be the B/W starters all over again… Personally I think the images may be legit but the written information is questionable. Although their has been an emphasis on past pokemon in trailers/interviews along with giving past pokemon the mega treatment so I wouldn’t be surprised if there were only around 70 new pokemon in the region pokedex but along with A LOT of old pokemon too (Which would explain why the dex is split)

  • GlamourousHeliotile

    Hawlucha?! I know these are fake I saw “Hawlucha” around the time of the july coro-coro release and was dumb enough to believe that they were real I was looking under fan-made Fennekin evolutions and it was so odd looking. Also releasing 70 pokemon? This has to be a fraud cause not counting mega evos they’ve released 40 pokemon over half this is impossible cause they released 31 pokemon before Black and White was released and that gen had 156 new pokemon.

  • Jimmy2495

    I honestly don’t believe any of that. 70 Pokémon is just a nope. Almost non-existent endgame? Masuda said it would be the most complete Pokémon game ever, I really don’t think he would miss something as important as the endgame. The EXP Share thing is confirmed, though, and the earning Exp more easily is too.

    Also, the screencaps are very odd. The bird has five feathers on its wings on the first screenshot (and they are pointy) and only four on the second screenshot (and they are rounded).

    Not buying this one.

    • littlegg

      Not to mention Masuda also mentioned a massive endgame in an interview. I’ll try to find a source, but this pretty much points out how false the rumors are.

      • Jason Kaus

        please find this source, i’ve been looking for it all night and can’t find it 🙁

    • whitesox23

      Maybe the bird has different wings for each different Hawchula, like a Spinda type of deal.

      I think the images are real, but the text is completely bullcrap.

  • EarthenWarrior

    Please explain it’s fakeness, I want the flaws up front so we can put this thing to rest

    • Magossa

      >removing the bubbles
      >70 new pokemon
      >no end game

      That should really be enough

  • ZoroarkPKMN

    70 new Pokemon? Let’s get serious here.

  • King Phoenix

    Masuda said at one point that there will be more pokemon in Kalos than ever before

    • FyrenXSalamence

      But it could be Pokemon from different generations. And I may be wrong but wasn’t it confirmed that there will be more wild Pokemon in each area? Which I would assume means trying to have almost all the ‘mons available in the game.

  • PokeTev

    Barely any endgame? Noooo! Please tell me this is some kind of sick joke.

    • Naeem M.

      I thought there was a guide book to the endgame.

      • PokeTev

        I know right!? I also read somewhere (can’t remember where) that there would be tons of post game content in X and Y, but it would only be in the Kalos region.

  • Nintendalek42

    With 40 pokemon already revealed, and at least 10 others being evos which we can predict happening ( starters. Espurr, helioptile, skrelp, clauncher, bunnelby, spritzer,swirlix), that leaves 20 completely unique pokemon left (including supposedly Hawlucha, which I actually like) to discover. Not happening. Gamefreak don’t actively hate the fanbase and aren’t suicidal. This person just knows how to make pokefans truly rage. Don’t entertain this troll. I mean, he even added that “no endgame” crap as a sick bonus.

  • Mike

    Greninja looks cool. I doubt there is only 70 pokemon, they said 5th gen was going to be the shortest and they introduced more than 70. “barely is any endgame” is not believable as most pokemon games gave us alot to do post game. The bird pokemon looks fan made.

  • Commander A.Cheez

    Definitely fake. There just CAN’T be only 70 Pokémon, let alone less than 100. And no endgame? You HAVE to be kidding me.

  • TheRadicalChespin

    This ‘Froakie evolution’ maybe in its shiny form and its neck thing and skin are different colours maybe?

  • Mike

    Had they gone with a bubble scarf instead of a tounge, said there was a alot to do post game, stated that there are around 113 new pokemon excluding the ones shown and their evolutions then it would have been more believable.

  • Naeem M.

    This is off topic but does anyone else think that Ash aand Serena will get a meowstick.

    • FennikSwirl

      I think ash may get the female

  • Atmosphere

    I know these are probably not true, but isn’t there another rumour saying that the entire pokedex will be in the game….. this would make more sense if this was true.

  • Atmosphere

    I think greninja looks a little to cubic for its last design, but what do I know.

  • Naeem M.

    Did you know someone tried to make a 3ds emulator

    • Atmosphere

      I guessing they didn’t succeed

      • Naeem M.

        Trust me that thing glitches alot don’t know why they would try to make one. Which means that we might not get Pokemon X and Y rom hack.

        • Atmosphere

          meh I’ve got a 3ds already

  • Ultron

    I hope these are fake because greninja is ugly AF. It’s head just randomly turns into a triangle. And 70 pokemon? Yeah right. There’s no stinking way there is any less than 100. I would only believe that crap if every single pokemon got megaevolutions

  • The_Legend_Chespin

    If this is true. I don’t know it’s ridiculous.Why would they do this after how much hype this has been getting

  • Geninja looks bad with the pink “tounge” thing! The bird looks weird. Also, the EXP Share changes back to the EXP All, I wonder why they didn’t use that. 70 pokemon in Kalos. Wasn’t thy a rumor before that was fake. Pokemon already said 100+ new pokemon. If it was that the Kalos would hav a small amount of pokemon. Also, I think pokemon as learned from there mistakes about the endgame of pokemon! I’m sure we’re going to have a good one! Hopefully this is all fake!

  • NeuroBeam

    I believe this is fake too. I feel like the Sixth gen is something GameFreak worked very hard on and if they don’t give us a lot of post game content and new pokemon, then I will call GameFreak GameTroll.

    But, anyway, I’m pretty excited for the game. I’m guessing by around Oct. 4th, there will be a lot of leaks flooding into the forums, since the embargo will be lifted a little bit.

    I can’t wait! 🙂

    • Randomtester

      loads of leaks will come

      • djja123

        We will, no doubt, get a lot of fake leaks though

    • Nicholas Sankar

      Is October 4th the day reviews from gaming sites come out for the games and that is why leaks will be out??

      • NeuroBeam

        I believe so. They might not be able to say everything. But they can say certain things about the game.

  • Nicholas Sankar

    These pictures aren’t BAD quality per say…..The person could just be bad at taking pictures generally…….like my dad.

    • Randomtester

      no one could be that bad they were not even trying

    • djja123

      Why would they not take the picture straight on, like did this person have somewhere to be? If he already had the game, then he should feel comfortable taking pics of it

  • gfgfdff

    I hope it’s fake

  • djja123

    I would like to know what those pokeballs mean on the left side of the summary screen

    • shamose

      Obviously they would be your party Pokémon. In the Froakie3 image he would be the fourth Mon in your party hence hi pokeball is slightly moved to the left

  • Sonar

    I think yall should let Pokebeach handle all leaks and rumors cause this is completely false. Lol come on now Pokejungle, 70 Kalos pokemon??? Get real. I know you got pictures and all, but this is way off.

  • natethepipkin

    ummmmmm tongue scarf….DAFUQ?

    • Randomtester

      ikr

  • saintsghost

    I don’t know about the images, but the written info sound ridiculous. Only 70 new pokemon? It is unlikely they will ever add less then 100 new pokemon. Now if you add that to the 40 already revealed which would make it 110, maybe. But given how nostalgic this game is and all it’s newness in design and all sorts of stuff and the increased amount of pokemon in gen 5 it seems likely we would have at least 150 or something. And I don’t know how much this reviewer h s seen pokemon, but it very unlikely that they will have so few legendaries. Unless the mega evolutions count for something? The froakies evolution looks unlikely of a direction they would go in. Now there is no way of knowing of this is real or not until the games are out unless this person admits to lying or someone discovers a way to prove they arg lying. I hope this information proves false. Leaks seem unlikely right now though at least if they are serious reviewers who want to keep their job. They only really convincing leak is the pokemon center images. It just looks right and real, but who knows.

  • Randomtester

    makes know sense building up the bubbles just to remove them the hell they might as well remove braixens big tail

    • Wes

      Baby frogs sometimes have bubbles on their backs from their nests. It would make sense to lose them as it grows older.

      • Randomtester

        but why hype it so much logic aside does it make sense

        • shamose

          they bubbles were never “hyped”.
          What is everyone fascination with the bloody bubbles? haha i mean settle down and look at Octillery. Prevo designs mean nothing

          I dont care if the image is real or not I just hope whatever the final Froakie is it has no bubbles whatsoever just so the idiots who think “losing bubbles” i the ultimate decider on fake/real feel like idiots 😀

          • Randomtester

            then why ad them in the first place

          • Rykel

            Froakie and Frogadier are both know as the bubble frog pokemon. Kinda weird they’d drop the bubbles after that.

          • shamose

            Gastly lost his gas. Chikoritas line lost its forehead leaf.

            as alluded to earlier, in nature, bubbles are associated with nests/young frogs. In that regard the frog “growing up/evolving” and losing something associated with being younger makes total sense.

            or, equally feasible, the designers couldn’t care less about something so trivial. and it means nothing. certainly not proof that this is fae (not that I am saying its real just seems like a stupid reason to doubt it to me)

      • Rykel

        While that is true, if they went that route Frogadier would have less bubbles than Froakie, which isn’t the case.

  • Claus H. Luíz

    Wow. This is nostalgic…
    These must be real because it feels like Black & White all over again. 80% of the comments here are complaints of people in disbelief, just like how it was with the leaks for the Black & White starters. Honestly, I don’t ever believe rumors straight on, but my instincts are telling me those picture are real, but I’m not believing the text. If I’ve learned anything so far this gen, it’s to not believe the texts. Look at the text separately from the pictures because we have no idea where these pics are originating from.

    Anyway, we’ve seem to finally have are Fighting/Flying-type Pokémon! A hawk luchador. Greninja isn’t exactly what I imagined, but it’s not bad. If this is real, @TCMets was right! It’s grenadier and not brigadier like everyone thinks it is!

    • littlegg

      The bird is fake because the design is inconsistent. When in the wild it has pointy, sharp feathers. In the pokedex entry it has fewer, and rounded, feathers.
      I’m not so sure about greninja either. While Masuda did say he thinks froakies transformation is the greatest, I’m just not quite sure about this one.

      • Wes

        It could be that the wind is ruffling his feathers in the battle scene. It could be that we just got a badly timed shot.

        • littlegg

          Good point, I remember when we first saw Darumaka and it was missing its limbs.

          • Reff

            or gender differences. 😛

      • Sable

        Yeah, I saw someone point out in the battle, it has five feathers, and only 4 on the screenshot, but that’s easily explained by that it’s body is hiding one of the feathers. Not that it makes these real, but that’s not something to really point at.

      • xytime!

        I will also mention the pictures of swirlix – in the screenshot it seems to have two feet, and then the artwork makes it look like it’s on a stick.

    • Wes

      Remember when the final evolutions of the 5th gen starters were leaked? Everyone said they were fake because they thought GameFreak wouldn’t make pokemon like that. I’m with you in thinking the images are real, but the written information is way too obviously fake.

      • littlegg

        i honestly don’t have a problem with either if they are real, although I think Greninja sort of lost it’s frog look.

        • Randomtester

          i agree

        • Claus H. Luíz

          It hasn’t completely lost its frog look, but it has gained more of a ninja look. If this is the case, then Quilladin and Braixen will look more like a knight and a mage, respectively.
          The starters based on RPG classes was confirmed, after all.

      • ForceUpdateSani

        you have too agree it doesnt make sense that the bubble frog pkmn loses his bubbles

        • shamose

          Gastly “the gas pokemon” lost his gas. You’re reasoning is ridiculous

          • ForceUpdateSani

            true but it still seems very weird to replace it with its tongue.

          • shamose

            No it doesnt at all. what is weird about it? your own deep love for bubbles? your point has no basis for anything

            Chikorita; “the leaf pokemon” kept its leaf in its first evolution, then lost it.
            Think logically dude

          • ForceUpdateSani

            the leaf turned into a flower that makes way more sense than this.

          • shamose

            Yea, because leaves always magically turn into flowers in nature :/
            Besides the leaf was on the forehead for both primary snd secondary evolutions, then gone.

            Your argument is stupid, your opinion is stupid and clearly there is little point talking reason with you. good day sir, go have a bath or something with plenty of bubbles….I bet they disappear eventually 😉

          • ForceUpdateSani

            well that was rude i was just trying to make sense of things but oh well.

          • Alex Bajer

            autist alert.

          • Stefan

            Lern2internet. You rude person.

          • shamose

            “Lern2internet” :/ who talks like that?

          • Stefan

            As you obviously didn’t realise, I was being satirical. I think you do need to think about how you talk to people and get your point across though – go back over and re-read what you wrote and how they came across. The like-to-dislike ratio of your posts should help with your deduction.

            Goodbye.

          • shamose

            haha I suppose it may have come across a little harsh :/ the “opinion is stupid” thing is actually a quote from a TV show. I apologize if any offense was caused, none was intended. The stubbornness of people just made me a little moody. Sorry again

            Though I thought the bath comment was kinda funny :p

          • shamose

            haha I guess it might have come across as a little harsh. The “opinion is stupid” thing is actually a quote from a cartoon I watch. I apologize for any offense caused, It was not my intent. Just the bubble theoy and stubborness all over the internet today made me cranky, sorry to all concerned once again

            Though my bath comment was kinda funny in light of bubblegate no? :p

          • Suicunesol

            Gengar is still made of gas.

        • Claus H. Luíz

          The bubbles don’t exactly matter.
          You never know if Greninja can choose to make the bubbles appear and disappear like most Pokémon can. A clear example would be Typhlosion and its flames.

          • ForceUpdateSani

            true but i cant see it just poping up out of that pink thing evo is cool though

      • FyrenXSalamence

        I hope the images are real! I think Greninja looks pretty neat!

    • djja123

      People are saying Greninja is real because Sammurott ended up being on all fours, unlike its previous forms. But Sammurott still had the shells, which were oshawott’s and dewott’s signature parts. But Greninja replaces Frogadier’s signature bubble scarf with a tongue? I don’t think so

      • Claus H. Luíz

        1) Its not a tongue.
        2) You have no idea if it can make its bubbles appear at any given time.
        3) Game Freak likes our tears. You’ll get used to it.

        • Alex Bajer

          It’s pink, near its mouth, and shaped like a tongue. What else would it be?

          • MuhFugginMoose

            You really want me to answer that?

    • Alex Bajer

      I think the gre comes from grenouille (frog in french). Ties into the french theme.

      • That sounds awesome tbh. So the “gren” can be a spin-on “grenouille” (frog in french) and “grenade”.

        • Alex Bajer

          Could be. I don’t see what grenade has to do with ninjas. Maybe smoke bombs?

          • That’s what I was thinking. And they did say it was based off like a rogue, or a general in combat.

          • Xyui_

            How about Grenadier? Also probably what the latter half of Frogadier was based off of, it is a Title in the army I think

  • Skiddo

    They look fake :/
    I don’t know what else to say :/

  • Jp Lo

    I remember Musada saying there’s over 100 new pokemon in X and Y…
    “As with every new generation of games, new Pokémon are introduced. The total number of Pokémon will be brought up to over 750, meaning there will be at least 100 new Pokémon.” Source http://pokemondb.net/x-y

    • natethepipkin

      i wonder wat the 1000th pokemon will be?

      • natethepipkin

        probably a chair

      • Skiddo

        A giant 1000.

        • natethepipkin

          so true

          • Randomtester

            an infinity symbol

          • natethepipkin

            IT would called infiniteon and it would be arceus’s mega evolution

          • Randomtester

            a new type called infini type no weaknesses 4x to every type eveelution base 1000 stats

          • natethepipkin

            TOO FAR BRO.. TOO FAR…

          • Randomtester

            you never know

      • Wes

        The bag of potato chips pokemon. It will be Fire/Fighting.

        • I was (and still am) hoping for the potato chips Pokemon lol. I think it could have a cool design. Specially if its similar to Tangela, like how shes just the black face with a pair of eyes concealed in vines, this poke could be a black face/pair of eyes concealed in an aluminum bag lol. Ability: Light Metal or Weak Armor lol.

      • natethepipkin

        GAMEFREAK- THE TROLL POKEMON

  • Skiddo

    Uggh I can’t tell if they’re real or not! I keep comparing them to an image on Serebii, and they look the same! I don’t actually believe that a Flying/Fighting type would look like that, but it’s GameFreak, so… :/

    • natethepipkin

      WHAT IMAGE ON SEREBII?

      • Skiddo

        Just one of Fennekin on the summary page, I was looing to see if the moves, ect. matched up the same way….

        • natethepipkin

          oh nice work

        • Skiddo

          It looks like everything matches….

  • Aipom626

    The order of the Pokeballs isn’t the same in both pics (which isn’t impossible), but Hawlucha is battling a level 10 Doduo when it itself is level 63. I find that a bit odd.

    • natethepipkin

      nice work bro we need more people like you on the job!

    • TCMets

      Wild Pokemon?

      • Aipom626

        I thought that too, but I just figured if you’re that high of a level, wouldn’t you battle higher level Pokemon? Could be true, I’m just pointing it out

        • TCMets

          Depends on where you are.

          • Aipom626

            I know, I’m not saying that’s the end-all-be-all it’s fake, it just makes it slightly suspicious in my eyes

  • TCMets

    Forget the text, I don’t believe that for a second. Anyone can find pictures and write some random BS.

    But that Froakie evolution pic, it looks so cool. I love the tongue scarf, so unique. If fake, good job. If real, good job.

    • Claus H. Luíz

      Seems like you were right about it being grenadier and not brigadier!
      I’ve got a gut instinct that these pics are real.
      Can’t wait to see Quilladin’s awesome evolved form! 😀

      • TCMets

        Haha, maybe! We’ll find out for sure soon enough 🙂 But I have that same feeling, I think the pics are real.

        • Skiddo

          We’ll find out in, OH MY GOSH, 14 DAYS!!!! 😀 or is it 13?

          • Claus H. Luíz

            13! 😀
            Still… I wouldn’t mind finding out AHEAD of time.
            C’mon guys, keep it leakin’!

          • natethepipkin

            KEEP THE LEAK KEEP THE LEAK

          • Skiddo

            What happened to that Italian leaker that was supposed be leaking stuff (was it yesterday?) Uggh my brain’s tired :p

          • natethepipkin

            oh yeah i forgot!!

          • Claus H. Luíz

            I don’t know. The person never really came back.
            Too busy enjoying the game? 😐

  • FyrenXSalamence

    151 comments! Returning to Kanto post-game confirmed! Gamefreak you trolls.

  • Strawberry_Pocky_Moose

    I’m calling fake. It’s hard to say why, other than that they just…look…fake to me. I’ll be VERY surprised if they’re real.

  • Reece

    Several things bug me
    1) Lack of bubbles…like where are they (unless the tongue scarf if hinding them)
    2) Why not show bottom half of 3DS?
    3) Why not show other 5 Pokemon in party?

    • natethepipkin

      TRUeeeeeeeee

  • natethepipkin

    i kinda like the froakie evo, but as a pokemon of its own…

  • natethepipkin

    I WANT OFFICIAL ARTWORK NOT SCREENSHOTS… but i know im asking for too much

    • natethepipkin

      stop youre asking for too much

      • natethepipkin

        jeez sorry!!!

        • natethepipkin

          wanna fight?

          • natethepipkin

            Sure! Go yveltal

          • natethepipkin

            Oh dam!!

          • natethepipkin

            Go frogadier!

          • natethepipkin

            Frogadier is evolving
            Frogadier evolved into… MISSINGNO!!!!!

          • zeldaoreonerd

            oh my god wut

          • Atmosphere

            this is very intresting

  • Hitsokieater

    If they show a pokedex entry I will beleave I currently don’t

    • natethepipkin

      AGREED BROTHER

  • shamose

    I don’t understand what goes on in a person’s head to actually go out of their way to create a fake. What is wrong with these people? have they got nothing better to do? I feel bad for them 🙁 poor sad lonely people

    • natethepipkin

      hey thats wat my dad does for a living…TAKE IT BACK!!!!! WAAAAAAAA

      • shamose

        Well in that case I don’t believe you are real….I’ll wait for official artwork before continuing this conversation

        • natethepipkin

          Lol im just kidding no hard feelings

    • Skiddo

      Or maybe they’re trolls :p

      • shamose

        please dont use the word “troll” it is awful

        But anyway your saying going to the trouble of making these fakes just to annoy gives them pleasure? well i stand by my original post, sad pathetic people 🙁 i feel for them

        • Skiddo

          ok sorry. D: What other term is there that’s nicer?

          • natethepipkin

            Meanie head?

        • natethepipkin

          I like wat you said … I LIKE…….YOU

        • Ghoster

          The word stupid is also a word that shouldn’t be used as t is very bad and as you said regarding “troll”, awful, yet I know someone around here who used it…

          • natethepipkin

            I used it… I’m sorry

          • Ghoster

            actually I wasn’t speaking about you but that’s a very noble attitude, admitting and apologizing

          • Skiddo

            Are you talking about “troll” or “stupid”? I’m confused .-.

          • Ghoster

            I might have misunderstood, you are compltely right I might have presumed to early that natethepipkin was saying he used the word stupid, sorry

          • Skiddo

            If you’re talking about troll, I’m definitely sorry, I just don’t know another term, is people that get pleasure out of other’s misery ok?

          • natethepipkin

            no before i said that gamefreak Was a troll and i feel really bad about sayong that… im sorry

          • natethepipkin

            Thanks

          • shamose

            I didnt mean it was awful as in offensive. I just hate “internet language” the prevalence of it around these days is completely stupid!….just like a certain someone’s specious arguments

          • Ghoster

            the word in itself isn’t internet language, but I understand what you’re saying has I highly doubt they intend to call the person who released this informtian an actual troll

  • TCMets

    Interesting that Greninja knows Extrasensory, which I see has also gotten a decrease in PP. I don’t know of any Fighting type Pokemon that can learn that move. So maybe Dark?

    Of course, this is just speculation if it’s real.

    • natethepipkin

      are you real?

      • TCMets

        Well I just pinched myself, I guess so.

        • natethepipkin

          Yay then youre the best thing thats been comfirmed so far!!!

          • natethepipkin

            😉

    • Claus H. Luíz

      Greninja’s name could possibly come from grenouille as well as grenadier. Grenouille would explain Extrasensory.

      Grenouille definition: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GRENOUILLE

      • natethepipkin

        Or grenadine… you know the thing that you mix with sprite to make a surely temple?

        • Claus H. Luíz

          Lol. That has nothing to do with frogs or ninjas, but the word Grenouille is also the French word for frog, and in the culinary arts, the term Grenouilles refers to frog legs.

          • natethepipkin

            NIce youre so much better than me at this speculating thing… 🙁

          • Claus H. Luíz

            Lol, it’s alright. At least, we’re solving this together.
            The sooner the info, the better, right?

          • natethepipkin

            you know it!!!!!
            🙂

          • Skiddo

            Like the food?

          • Claus H. Luíz

            Yep, and also like the frequency-resolved optical gating (FROG). Click on the wiki link up there to find out more on this.
            I think that might be why Greninja learns Extrasensory.

      • TCMets

        French for Frog! Good researching! Kalos is based on France too so I imagine a lot of French themes.

    • True. Suicune is also a water type like Frogadier though and gets extra sensory. It must have something to do with the frog its based off of.

    • whitesox23

      Ninjas are known to meditate, and Meditation is using your inner Psychic power to calm yourself, could explain Extrasensory.

  • natethepipkin

    200+ COMMENTS!!!!! WOOHHOOOO

  • Another thing to consider is that this might not be what Greninja’s official art looks like. I mean just look at Torchic’s move set screen we got before. They are definitely adding more detailed animations. So Greninja could easily just be sticking out its tongue and wrapping around its neck in its animation.

    https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7731918336/h5FA70974/

    • natethepipkin

      good point sir

    • TCMets

      That’s right! I mean, I don’t see Torchic doing that during a battle haha. This could easily be what Greninja’s Pokemon selection screen animation is like.

      Btw, on my 3DS it says “Provisionally Registered Friend.” What’s that mean? I don’t have that for anyone else :S

      • It means I’m lazy and forgetful! haha registering you right now sorry! 🙂

      • Claus H. Luíz

        Know what, the leaker probably took the pic of Greninja during its animation to troll us. Maybe that’s why its “tongue,” if that is it,
        is sticking out and wrapping around it like a “ninja scarf?”

        • natethepipkin

          i hope that wat youre saying is the case. I like it

        • TCMets

          Hahaha, maybe! Either way, it looks awesome and I’m a big fan of the concept with that tongue scarf for a ninja frog.

      • Mike

        That means that the other person hasn’t added you yet.

    • Claus H. Luíz

      It’s sooo adorable~♥
      Um… *cough*still manly*ahem*

    • I hate that it shows an additional two pokeballs underneath the cherish ball. What are they for?

      • Daniel Rojas

        They seem to be the party. Selected one is moved to the right, the rest are the unseen pokes.

    • Lasgorndalf

      I love that animation in the summary! I think is one of the details I have liked the most so far

    • Nicholas Sankar

      I doubt its selection screen animation is it sticking its tongue out and wrapping it around its neck. That sounds weird.

    • Adamlee Spence

      I HOPE this isnt Froakie’s final evo. It looks like SHIT!

  • sebi

    I dont want froakies evolution i want chespins ! ^^

    • natethepipkin

      same

    • Skiddo

      I want Fennekin’s. But I’ll have to wait either for the game or a leaker :/

  • natethepipkin

    did anyone else realize in the picture of greninja it shows a masterball on the left. Wonder wat he used that for. I used my first masterball on a tailow and i wasn’t so smart back then…

    • Claus H. Luíz

      Only proper thing to use a Master Ball on would be a Legendary Pokémon.

      • natethepipkin

        yeah but when i was 6 i really liked tailow and didnt have any other balls. Later it took me hours to catch rayquaza

      • TCMets

        A roaming legendary* 😉

    • Motisma

      Don’t feel bad 😉 My little sister caught a spheal with a masterball in her sapphire game.

  • Hitsokieater

    Wait is this the rumored “water Phoenix” because LHS faker did a better job with the badger

    • Hitsokieater

      Curse you auto correct

  • Ira Eidle

    Well the reviewers said they can’t show the final starter evolutions so I kinda doubt this is real but it might be.

    • Skiddo

      If so, someone took a risk! 😀

      • Ira Eidle

        Yeah and I’d be a bit disappointed if the only 70 new Pokémon rumor turned out to be true but the ones they’ve shown look amazing so I wouldn’t mind only a few. It’d make it easier to use all of them. And if there’s barely any after game then the main game better be full of stuff to do.

    • Daniel Rojas

      Well… there is always an idiot that likes to take a risk.

  • Smurphy

    There are several reasons why this is obviously fake: no bottom screens, lake of the bubbles on froakies evolution, it says hawlucha is holding an item called “Belt” not “expert belt”. Just. Belt. Also, the fact that no self respecting professional would go against nintendo’s wishes and risk their job just to leak a starter final evo. Also, there is no way it’s final evo won’t have part of its name having something to do with frogs in it

    • Skiddo

      You can’t really see the whole screen or Hawlucha’s summary page… I was assuming ‘Black Belt’

      • natethepipkin

        or there could be a new item called “belt”. with all this trainer custimization, you never know!

        • Ghoster

          well the word belt if analyse the image starts around the same pixels as the pokeball of the selected pokémon is so if you compare the positioning with froakies supposed evo it should have something written before belt

          • natethepipkin

            good point Ghoster

          • Claus H. Luíz

            Not really. If you compare Hawlucha’s pic with Greninja’s pic, you’ll see that there’s enough space to add “Black” before “belt.”

          • Ghoster

            I thought about that but it might just be from the image that we are being disieved If you look at it Mysterious is a much bigger word than black and water starts just a little ahead of belt

    • Claus H. Luíz

      Who said this was taken by a professional?
      Who even said they respect themselves? They’re doing this for us!
      THIS… is the knight in shining IDGAF armor we’ve all been waiting for!! >:D

      • Smurphy

        The only people who have the games now are professional game reviewers. Nintendo is taking this very seriously. I’m so sure that they won’t reveal the starters evos because Nintendo wants the players to feel like this is red and blue all over again. We all want the starters cuz we are used to the game coming out in japan 6 months or more before they come out internationally and by then we could plan out our entire team. We all need to just sit back and stop trying to ruin the experience of newness for ourselves. Don’t plan your team, don’t search the internet far and wide for “leaked starter evos”, don’t spoil yourselves past what has been officially revealed. You’ll enjoy the game much more. For me, I’m actually going to write my own pen and paper Pokedex for use in second and third etc. playthroughs

        • Claus H. Luíz

          My goodness, what a peculiar wall of text that is. It was written in a way that made it quite laughable, yet irritable to read.
          Know this, wall! We all do not need to “just sit back.”
          As if you knew how I enjoy my games!

          For your info, I WANT to be spoiled. Spoiled in X & Y gloriousness! THAT is how I enjoy my game, wall!
          If there were codes made available for all items — besides key items, of course — I would USE them! For that is how I enjoy my Pokégames.

          Away with you and your Dungeons & Dragons pen and paper, you nerdus personas! I shall excuse this insolence this one time, but know this… I shan’t excuse it again. Begone!

          • zeldaoreonerd

            lol

          • Claus H. Luíz

            Fool tryna tell me how ta play my gamez?
            He must be crazy! Mm-hmm. ;P

          • zeldaoreonerd

            most definetly i want to be spoiled also!!!

          • Claus H. Luíz

            Yezzir! We’re on the Hype Train!

          • zeldaoreonerd

            CHOO- CHOO

          • Atmosphere
          • Motisma

            You don’t have to be so rude…

          • Claus H. Luíz

            *Eric Cartman voice*
            But, moooom, he started it!

    • RED

      I agree. I think someone is making these fakes just to stir up convo before release. Plus, that Froakie evo looks so terrible. I guess I can only hope

  • Alucard

    Froakie evolution seems really fake to me:

    1. Bubble Frog Pokemon loses all his bubbles.
    Yes that does sometimes happen, but it seems like a really strange design decision to replace his bubbles with a tongue. Especially with his pre- evos never even showing their tongues.

    2. The eyes changed their color from yellow iris to white iris. Why would they keep them the same for 2 evolutions only to change them?

    3. His head looks almost like a piece of origami. I don’t see how this would relate to either hi name or his typing.

    • natethepipkin

      origami is cool too

    • Claus H. Luíz

      Hi. How long have you’ve been playing Pokimans sir/madame?
      I’ve been around since Red & Blue and know for a fact that ANYTHING
      is possible when it comes to evolution.
      Didn’t ya know? Game Freak enjoys the tears of its complainers. Oishi!

      • natethepipkin

        yeah just look at magikarp and gyardos

      • Alucard

        Possible /= plausible.
        I don’t know those changes just don’t make much sense to me.

    • Ghoster

      For as much as it might hurt me to say I have to disagree with you because what you pointed out when it comes to pokemon evolving doesn’t mean a thing, they can stray very far from the evolution that precedes. It’s not that I don’t like the design but I was hoping for a different froagie I guess, but the images do seem very real

      • Alucard

        So what are you basing your opinion on?
        It’s not that hard in this day and age to fake a screen especially in this poor quality.

        They have done some weird transitions in the last gen but usually starters have a very clear and logical progression and I can’t see that progresion in this final evolution at all.

        • Ghoster

          no you’re right it’s not hard but you have to agree they seem compellingly real do yes the quality of the imagery is poor, but you just have to search in the comments and several people have given examples of pokemons that lost there ‘trademark’ threw evolution. And yet I said it and I’ll repeat it, tough I don’t dislike the design I was expecting a different evo even for a ninja.

          • Alucard

            It doesn’t even look like a ninja to me it looks more like an airplane pilot.

            I mean the ones during WW1 with that typical flying goggles and the scarf.

  • Mr.Samurott

    I dont get it!!! 🙁 what does it mean any endgame?! It sounds stupid omg!!! Why the best game ever of pokemon doesnt have endgame!? Please i want ot to be fake!!! But could anybody tell me what does that mean?!

    • Skiddo

      I think it’s stuff that happens after you beat the league and defeat the bad guys :p

      • Mr.Samurott

        Like others pokemon games?

    • Claus H. Luíz

      Don’t look at both the text and the pics as if they originated from the same source. Remember, the text could be fake, but the pics could be real!
      Just think about that Pokémon Center leak. 😉

      • zeldaoreonerd

        if only i could like your comment more than once sir… you beautiful person you

        • Claus H. Luíz

          My~♪ Thank you very much and you are very welcomed.
          😀

  • natethepipkin

    Chespin hsas just been comfirmed to evolve when eating too many poffins…jk

    • Mr.Samurott

      Abahahahaha ohhh i get it xD

  • Atmosphere

    what if the entire pokedex is in the game?, that could explain why there is not a lot of new pokemon

    • natethepipkin

      that would make a lot of people happy. I was waiting for a game where every pokemon is obtainiable without having to trade from your gamboy to your ds to your 3ds to your 2ds to your wii to your xbox and so on

    • Mr.Samurott

      Maybe pokemon is full of pokon and they can put more because they dont have a lot of memory for it!! But please pokemon need to make more pokemon :;(

      • natethepipkin

        i quote you on that one:

        “Pokemon need to make more Pokemon”
        -Mr. Samurott

        • Claus H. Luíz

          Add “forever and ever, and ever, and ever…”

    • Atmosphere

      yeah because it said somewhere in a review that a lot of old pokemon are returning, one even claimed that all of the previous pokemon will be in the game

    • MasterMime

      I don’t think they would ever put the entire Pokedex in a game. Connecting to other players (starting with the cable link in gameboy) has always been an integral part of Pokemon…also it would make the PokeTransfer system pointless and we already know that there are version exclusives so we know there won’t be EVERY pokemon in-game

      • Atmosphere

        maybe there would still be version exclusives like mawile in x and sableye in y and all of the other exclusive will be split between the two games

    • thekyletan

      If every Pokemon are to be in the game, then I don’t see how they would remake ruby and sapphire.

      • Atmosphere

        maybe they won’t

  • Mr.Samurott

    Okokok!!! Im out!! I need to do my homework and I can waste my time here!!!! I love read all the cooments here but time is the best gold!! Also My boyfriend wants to talk with me!!! Sooo see you guys! Thanks for everything I’ll be right back later!!

  • thekyletan

    Look real to me. I’d be really disappointed if that was Froakie final evolution. But hey, they’re giving us the Kanto starter and Torchic for a reason you know.

  • Well actually, around 70-80 new Pokemon this Gen sounds plausible.
    Remember when someone checked the source coding of the japanese movie site and saw Mewtwo’s picture file name under “Mewtwo X” and people began thinking it would have two forms X and Y, all that turned out to be true.

    Now recently Nintendo have said they are going back to promoting the tag line “GOTTA CATCH EM ALL!” Now if you go to “Gottacatchemall.com” the website with the little pokeball prize games, one of the codes you enter is called “XY738A”

    or in other words : ” X and Y, 738 total Pokemon, Version A”. I will explain what I mean by version A. Firstly, if there was a total of 738 pokemon, that would mean X and Y are introducing to us 89 Pokemon which sounds like a good estimation to the leakers “70 new Pokemon”.

    I think X and Y will be the the (1 of 2) set of games for 6th Gen. I believe that the “A” in “XY738A” is a hint that we will be receiving a “B” half with another 50-60 Pokemon to complete 6th Gen around sometime next year dubbed as Gen 6.5.

    • MasterMime

      To be honest, I just think that’s random code. To date, gen 2 has released the least amount of Pokemon and that was 100. To suddenly have a gen with that much less than a 100 would be a bad move BUSINESS wise and let’s remember that at the end of the day GameFreak and Nintendo are business. Also, with an established franchise like Pokemon, there is no way a company would take risks like releasing an A version with 70 pokes and a B version with only 50 new pokes (why buy A version at all etc)

      • I don’t think its a random code. Nintendo/Gamefreak like to link up there dates/codes to match what there doing. If you look at the ID/OT of any Pokemon event on the handheld games like Black 2, it matches the release date of the event. For example, Shiny Palkia was released on September 9, 2013. If you look at its ID, its 09093. The ID number for Torchic event that comes with Blazikenite item is 10123 (correlates to October 12, 13).

        Earlier this year, around January 1st or January 2nd, STRONG STRONG rumors were floating that a 6th Gen series was approaching and that a new Eeveelution would be revealed on January 8, 2013. That date would match up with

        01/08/13 = 1 Eevee, 8 Evolutions, 13th Main Series Games

        when that date came, it seemed like Nintendo knew what the fans were expected, so they did something different and instead revealed the Starters/Legendaries instead of a new eevulution. INSTEAD, Sylveon was postponed until a week and a half later – mid-jan.

        All I’m saying is I think XY738A means something and isn’t just a random code like the rest of the codes.

        • Ghoster

          Well but going with that theory the other codes should also mean something…

          • Yeah the other codes are random, but the code that gives you free entry into the perfectly titled “Gotta catch em all” is the XY738″ one and the only one that starts with “XY”

          • Ghoster

            oh ok didn’t know that as I’m not searching or interested in the codes after all it’s again one of those only for certain regions things, but if it stands out like that could be

        • Mike

          Half life 3 confirmed.

    • Atmosphere

      wow great job

  • Syaoran

    If this is like BW where you HAVE to catch the Legendary in order to proceed, I pity those who are picking up Y, especially if you use your newly caught Yveltal to fight a Xerneas with a type advantage 😛

    • Atmosphere

      there will always be a type advantage with legendries

      • Syaoran

        Not really…
        I mean, in 2nd gen, Ho-oh and Lugia didn’t have type advantages. There was a type advantage in 3rd gen, but Palkia and Dialga didn’t have a one-sided type advantage (since they’re both part Dragon type). And in fifth gen, Reshiram and Zekrom didn’t have a one-sided type advantage. They both shared Dragon, but Electric and Fire are both not very effective to Dragon types.
        Whereas, Xerneas is Fairy type, which has the advantage over Yveltal, who is Dark/Flying. Just judging by typing, Yveltal is at a significant disadvantage.

        • Syaoran

          Xerneas has the advantage* My bad

  • Satori Komeiji

    barely any endgame? definitely fake!

  • Satori Komeiji

    also I like the name “Frogue” better. “Greninja” doesn’t have a reference to the word “frog” anywhere, which really screams fake to me.

    • TCMets

      Grenouille is French for Frog.

    • zeldaoreonerd

      actually there is

  • ShinyXatu

    If these are fakes, they are some of the best fakes ever created.

    • Atmosphere

      …………….. I’ve seen better

      • ShinyXatu

        I mean, they are most likely fake, but you can see lots of detail.

    • Alucard

      Lol I’ve seen far better.
      In fact that Badger pokemon from yesterday looked more convincing and turned out to be fake.

      • Ghoster

        what badger, I believe I missed that fake

  • Skiddo

    I’m going to need some more proof to believe this….

    • ShinyXatu

      Once again, I don’t know what to believe, but the speculation will be rampant once more Junglers come around!

  • Redwing19

    The name for Froakie’s final evolution seems very possible. It seems to be a mix of grenouille and ninja. ( grenouille means frog in French ) this makes a lot of sense because the Kalos region is based off of France.

    • belmad

      Yes, but anyone can come up with any name. Froakie’s French name is Grenousse after all.

    • Missingno. Master

      And now I know. I wasn’t sure where the “Gre” part of the name came from. But yeah, Kalos focusing on French is why I keep predicting “Poissonous” for the name of whatever Skrelp evolves into. “Poisson” (French for fish) + “poisonous”.

      • belmad

        Skrelp evo’s French name is Kravarech apparently .

        Official french site listed it mistakenly this way.

  • MErfth

    Im getting slowly sad because of all this speculation and rumors, and barely no post game is really a downer….but adding Super Sayians to pokemon is amazing i guess!

  • BulbaSword

    Only 70 New Pokemon… With 40 revealed so far, let’s do some math…

    +3 (Starter’s Evos), +2 (Spritzee and Swirlix Evos), +2 (Clauncher and Skrelp Evos), + 1 (Helioptile Evo), +1 (Noivern relation), +1 (Flebebe relations), +1 (Orotto Relation), +2 (Bunnelby and Denenne evolutions), +1 (Meowstic Relation), +1 (Furfrou Relation) = ~15 New ones based on Pokemon we already know. I’m not saying that all of these will get evolutions or babies (Noivern and Furfrou are debatable), but it’s just an estimate.

    That means that there’s only be 15 unrelated Pokemon when the game actually comes out? That’s hardly enough for 5 3-stage evolutions. And add Legendaries, that really only leaves room for roughly 3 new Pokemon lines being introduced. I’m not buying this rumor.

    • Sable

      Same. Hell, it was due to that I was thinking even 100 seemed low because that would still be about half the Pokemon revealed, so I was thinking maybe 120 sounds more reasonable. But 70? I don’t think Gamefreak EVER came close to revealing THREE FOURTHS of the Pokedex before the game came out.

      • BulbaSword

        Exactly.I’d be fine with 100 personally, because that leaves 45 Pokemon we haven’t seen anything about yet, so ~10-14 new evolutionary lines and a few legendaries. I do agree that 120 is an ideal number to shoot for. That was roughly what DP had, and that game felt like it had a good balance between old and new.

    • Syaoran

      I wholeheartedly agree with you (thank you for doing the math by the way). Besides, I don’t have the source, but I remember they said that the # cap would exceed 750.

      • Dicie

        Therefore, roughly 101 Pokemon would be revealed at max.

        • Syaoran

          He said “exceed.” Which is a synonym of “surpass.” Which means MORE than 750 total.

      • BulbaSword

        I’ve been meaning to do that math for a while now, just to get a look at what it could mean. I’ll be fine with whatever GF does, but I’ll be a little put out if somehow they defy my logic and have around 70.

  • ShinyXatu

    Wouldn’t that be a slap in the face if it was Water/Psychic, Fire/Fighting and Grass/Dark?

    • MErfth

      HA!

      • ShinyXatu

        “Greninja” has Extrasensory in that image, so it would be hilarious!

        • Kyudeci

          alot of non psychic types have extrasensory

          • Sable

            no fighting types, admittedly though. But after Psychic, the second most type to have it is FIRE, so it’s not likely there is much of a pattern, things just kind of get it.

          • Missingno. Master

            Not to mention, there are other Fighting-types that learn Psychic moves, and I’m not just talking Meditite, Medicham, and Gallade, either. Riolu learns Zen Headbutt. Lucario learns Psychic and Zen Headbutt. Poliwrath learns Psychic. Scraggy, Scrafty, and the legendary goats learn Zen Headbutt. Hell, Extrasensory used to be exclusive to Nuzleaf, of all things!

          • BulbaSword

            Just to be the devil’s advocate, Lucario is associated with Aura (or Pokemon’s version of The Force), Poliwrath is based on hypnotism, and Scraggy is big into headbutting things so they gave him all the headbutting moves.

            However, Nuzleaf is just weird 😛

            I will say that it seems like an odd move on Greninja. I get that ninja’s are mysterious, but its reasoning for getting a Psychic move via Level up doesn’t seem as solid as the other guys. Sure, Cyndaquil gets Extrasensory, but it’s an Egg Move and meant to be odd.

  • Spetsnaz

    i don’t know if anybody had asked this yet, but what is the thing around Greninja’s neck?

    • ShinyXatu

      Umbilical cord XD

      • zeldaoreonerd

        eww

        • ShinyXatu

          If you say so…

        • Dicie

          See kinda why I left yesterday? People who can’t take a freaking joke…

          • zeldaoreonerd

            I can take a joke. I was playing along with it. jeez

          • Dicie

            Oh. Well, I like people like you who can play along and just have fun. Others… Not so much. But you have a nice sense of humor yourself– I was just testing you. 😀

          • zeldaoreonerd

            and i passed? YES!!!!!

          • Dicie

            Lol, you passed the Dedennytest! 😀

          • ShinyXatu

            Dicie, take your Dedennymeds and relax!

    • zeldaoreonerd

      a tongue

    • nb97

      It’s tongue.

    • BulbaSword

      If that’s a tongue, that’s pretty gross. I’m hoping that it’s either that sack that frogs have on their throats or that we can dress up Pokemon too and his owner decided to give him a fabulous pink scarf.

  • I was promising myself to stay away from the leaks, but I caved in LOL.

    I don’t understand how anyone can think that image of Frogadier’s evolution is real when the summary shows it came in a Great Ball. Starters come in Pokeball’s not great balls.

    • zeldaoreonerd

      actually i think the pokeball sticking out is the pokeball the pokemon is in

    • Missingno. Master

      Actually, it shows six Poké Balls off to the side, which I think represents the party as a whole. One of them, a regular Poké Ball, is a little more to the right, like Chespin’s in this: http://www.pokemonxy.com/_ui/img/_en/screenshots/may_p5_4.jpg

    • thekyletan

      Its Pokeball is the fourth one.

    • Syaoran

      I don’t believe the picture, but actually, if you take another look at the image, notice how a Pokeball, just one, is inwards more than the others, indicating that this is the Pokemon that’s currently selected. After all, why would just one be inwards when the others aren’t. Regardless, I don’t believe this.

      • Yeah someone else had pointed that out for me I feel like a jack ass

  • RedWing19

    The name for Froakie’s final evolution seems very possible. It seems to be a mix of grenouille and ninja. ( grenouille means frog in French ) this makes a lot of sense because the Kalos region is based off of France.

  • Sazando

    They could be fake, but i’ve been wanting a fighting/flying type for a while, and this Hawk/Luchador looks damn nice.

    The Froakie evo looks cool too.

  • Atmosphere

    http://25.media.tumblr.com/6b2a356f299b10a71c2dcc211716bf43/tumblr_mifyo8Dtby1qd87hlo1_500.gif
    I can just imagine people at gamefreak seeing the fakes and laughing at our confusion. they are such troll ducks

  • Dicie

    Wasn’t there an embargo set for final starter evolutions, and that was after the games come out. I mean, if this is true, someone’s going to jail…

    • Motisma

      Oops, lol. Was it really worth it?

      • Dicie

        What, my comment? If you don’t have anything nice to say then just screw off. Lol.

        • Motisma

          No! Not your comment! I was commenting on the “leaker’s” decision. Is it really worth it to get into legal trouble so that you can satisfy the pokemon community’s insatiable thirst for leaks? Gamefreak really wants us to relieve the red and blue experience, so I think we should respect that. We are acting kind of entitled, you know?

          Sorry if you thought I was insulting you. There is no need to get so defensive, though. No one’s gonna bite you. It was just a small misunderstanding of words, and poor writing on my part.

          And yes, there is an embargo on final evolutions, until the 4th of october, I believe.

          So, let’s move on and keep talking about Pokemon!

        • Motisma

          I don’t know what happened to my other comment, I am not insulting you, so don’t worry. I was commenting about the “leaker.” Is it really worth it to get into legal trouble in order to satisfy the pokemon community’s insatiable thirst for leaks? If Game freak wants us to relieve the red and blue days and really hype us up, then we need to respect that. They are the ones that make and provide us with these awesome games. We are being entitled and just plain being pieces of ungrateful poopies.

          Again, sorry if I insulted you. No need to get so defensive! No one’s gonna bite you. Don’t worry!

    • MErfth

      what u mean

    • RED

      And I won’t choose Froakie considering it looks awful lol. This is the only image I have seen and hope it is fake

    • ShinyXatu

      Their jail time would be for our benefit!

    • TCMets

      It’s only illegal if you get caught.

    • Alucard

      Yeah because leaking ome pokemon pics will send you to jail……
      If they even get the leaker I think the worst he would face would be a Cease and Desist order and a fine.

  • MasterMime

    I feel like it’s fake because it’s too pandering. Showing a starter evo and a Fighting/Flying type which everyone wants. Looking back at when the Black/White pokedex leaked, people were upset and complained b/c so much was stuff they didn’t want (ie third Fire/Fighting starter in a row)…Just my two cents

    • Sable

      Well, Tongue scarf here is garnering a lot dislike, and definitely not a direction anyone every would have guessed. Not saying that’s proof, but just pointing out. Much like Dewott to Samurott, really.

  • Dolbertini

    FAAAAAAKE!!!(plz…)

  • Dicie

    Well, I’m leaving for the morning. I’ll be back next Saturday.

  • RedWing19

    The name for Froakie’s final evolution seems very possible. It seems to be a mix of grenouille and ninja. ( grenouille means frog in French ) this makes a lot of sense because the Kalos region is based off of France.

    • zuhzoo

      People are already thinking that, saw your other comment too 🙂 Yep, would make sense, will have to wait and see…!

      • RedWing19

        Yup not too much longer but the suspense is killing me!!!

  • Trusk

    I’ve always wanted to see a Fighting/Flying type! I sure hope this rumor is true! I would be really happy if they had a Pokémon that has an ability that allows it to ignore a foe’s immunities! Then again, it IS hard to believe that the Pokémon in one of the pictures was an official final evolution of Froakie since heavymetallamb stated that it came in a Great Ball, and starters do not come in Great Balls.

  • defensivebastiodon

    I don’t like the artwork for the Froakie evolution. It looks too cheesy. I’m not trusting this although I would love a flying/fighting type!

  • Wes

    Does the rumor state Greninja’s type anywhere?

    • TCMets

      Sadly no. Though if it turned out Water/Fighting, it’d be the first time a Fighting type knows the move Extrasensory.

      Still hoping for Water/Dark.

      • BulbaSword

        Water/Dark would match Extrasensory, considering that it used to be Shiftry’s signature move.

        • Sable

          Only one other Dark type can even learn it though, which is through egg moves, so that seems more like species weirdness.

    • defensivebastiodon

      It’s not on the screenshot…

  • thekyletan

    If this was real, it should’ve already been taken down. It’s fake.

    • Ghoster

      but you know I disagree I think if it’s real than that’s the exact reason they won’t or shouldn’t take it down, that’s almost as good as they saying that it’s real…

  • Atmosphere
    • ShinyXatu

      Why the hate? It looks just fine to me.

      • Randomtester

        i see an oshawott

        • ShinyXatu

          No, I’m referring to the “leaks” and how nobody seems to like them.

          • Randomtester

            the link is just a gif of oshawott

          • ShinyXatu

            I know, you know what nevermind XD

          • Randomtester

            what

          • BulbaSword

            The leak that’s most unnerving is the fact that there are only 70 new Pokemon, which means only ~15 Pokemon unrelated to the ones we’ve already seen.

          • Alucard

            They just don’t look all that great to me.

            Greninja really grosses me out and the bird looks like flying pinata.
            Would be really dissappointed if they were real.

          • ShinyXatu

            I’ll leave you to your opinion, but I actually really like them.

          • Alucard

            To each their own, but for me there are already more than enough tongue pokemon in this game. XD

            I hate Lickitung with a burning passion.

            Also the more I look at that bird the more it looks like Sigilyph.
            Well the color sheme at least.

  • MErfth

    Best i have Seen So Far!

    • King Phoenix

      Seriously I believe this could possibly be another pokemon in the game but not frogadiers evo

    • MErfth

      And it macthes the rumors that were released black spots and blue taking over body what ever the thing is at top it dosent macth.

      • TCMets

        That pic is already confirmed fake.

        In addition, those latest Pokebeach rumors were debunked by a credible reviewer on neogafs. Said everything was false in the latest rumors.

        • Sable

          Well, what he actually said was on the Pokebeach rumors, three things on the rumors were 50% true. Which three things, he didn’t. say.

          • TCMets

            True, he later said that looking back, it was probably even less. He attributed it to lucky guesses.

    • Daniel Rojas

      It is the best (comparing to that new one), but it’s fake.

  • Dennis Lougharn

    I’m less annoyed at Froakie’s final evolution design and more annoyed that it can learn Extrasensory, hoping that the Fennekin line is the only starter this gen with a Psychic sidetype.

  • Randomtester
  • defensivebastiodon

    From what I recalled, there would be over 100 new pokemon in Kalos.

    • ShinyXatu

      I believe that the part of the leak talking about 70 new Pokemon and no endgame is absolutely fake.

      • defensivebastiodon

        It would have to be. There is pretty always after game content.

  • Atmosphere
    • MasterMime

      People always bring up how In Diamond/Pearl, Ash was well poised to win but then he had to face that guy who had Darkrai and Latios…It almost seems the writers of the show DON’T want him to win

      • ShinyXatu

        The bias in the director’s room is TOO DAMN HIGH!

    • Atmosphere

      the gif for this weeks god dammit ash

    • defensivebastiodon

      Yep… That’s our future pokemon master…

  • How come the summaries of Chespin and Torchic are a nice brown color, but these new summaries have white backgrounds?

    And you would’ve thought that someone with a review copy and access to internet etc would have a great camera to use and not uploading some blurry looking crappy fakes. I don’t care if I’m offending anyone that wants them to be real, but I’m not buying it. There fake to me. They don’t scream Sugimori designs and the alleged frogadier evolution is drastically a complete new Pokemon, it didn’t retain any of its old features.

    I’ve read two people say they have review copies of the games and cannot leak any images until after October 4th or so and have signed on NDA’s. Why leak them now at the end of Sept?

    • Randomtester

      agree with you prob fake

    • Atmosphere

      wait, so does that mean there will be major leaks on October the 4th?

      • presumably so

      • TCMets

        The reviewers can talk about the game starting October 4th. But even then, there’s a super strict embargo about everything that hasn’t been shown from now til the 12th of October.

        • Atmosphere

          but I’ve seen some reviews already

          • TCMets

            Post them.

    • TCMets

      The summary background looks the same to me. It’s just the quality of the picture.

      In regards to your last paragraph, it’s called being a rebel and leaking the info 😉

      • Lmao ahh I see.

        I wish the images were more HQ. I’ve been warming up to the frogadier evo I actually quite like it after standing it side by side next to a pic of frogadier

    • Sable

      Not that I’m saying they aren’t fake, but uh, roughly same color scheme, continuation of the spikes on the eyes, now more pronounced, similar shape and pose, and same style of feet and hands, this “Pokemon” definitely retains those features. Besides, REALLY shouldn’t say things like that, because Samurott. That obviously isn’t a problem for Gamefreak to change things heavily.

      • Yeah I actually feel bad bashing the design’s so hard. People after closer inspection, Frogadier’s evo isn’t actually that bad and does retain the spikes on the eyes as you say. I had pulled the two pics of and compared them side by side and thought… maybe it could evolve into this. Its actually not bad at all and I think its caught in the animation of twirling its tongue around

        • Sable

          Honestly, that close side of the face, the really heavy white spike, really feels off to me. Nor why it appearently is dark blue on the other side of the spike, that as a design standpoint seems weird for this particularly design. Just, I’m waiting because the tongue thing. It seems weirdly plausible, and something that no one has done before when doing the fakes, because no one would THINK of doing that, seemingly, unless this person banked on that, and did so. That’s what leads me to believe it could be real, honestly. The Tongue.

          • Same here. The tongue (possibly wrapped in animation) and the spikes behind the eyes is what made me start warming up to it and believing its real. I thought it was in a great ball at first but didn’t realize the summary now show all the pokeballs in a team. Pretty cool.

    • Ghoster

      the only thing I have to point out about what you said is that those images we saw of the summaries don’t mean much as it says in every trailer and everywhere else that it’s subject to change, they could have changed the color, or it even be an option to change it…

      • Yeah I think there still brown, I just think the pic quality is low enough to make them seem white lol. I need some HQ shots. I’m not too fond of the bird still but I actually quite like the frogadier evo

  • Dennis Lougharn

    has this been proven fake yet?

    • ShinyXatu

      It looks pretty bad tbh

      • Dennis Lougharn

        bad as in it looks fake or bad as in it looks ugly?

        • ShinyXatu

          Both, in my opinion; it looks kind of ‘two-dimensional’ and has an uninspired design.

          • PokePoke

            Reminds me of Honchcrow

          • ShinyXatu

            Oh yeah, with the witch’s hat and black color scheme. I never used Honchkrow on my team…maybe one day.

          • Dennis Lougharn

            well to each his own I guess, I expected a witch-like design and if this is real I’m ok with it and unless this new Froakie final evo is fake or Chespin’s final evo looks cool enough I’ll probably pick Fennekin

          • ShinyXatu

            I mean, I will be fine with whatever Gamefreak decides to do; eventually, we warm up to the badly-designed Pokemon and see them as popular topics in the future.

          • Dennis Lougharn

            of course, we obviously don’t see as much criticisms towards the gen 5 starters now then we did then

          • King Phoenix

            I believe this over greninja

    • Reece

      Starter’s evos, starter’s evos everywhere!

    • Atmosphere

      I think it looks great

    • Mike

      I don’t like the fur coming outta the ear but it looks awesome without it.

    • LaReinadeMordor

      Is this confirmed?

      What the hell???? I want to see the rest of her body to see how it looks like…

  • MErfth

    I think Hawlucha has gender diffence but that dosent change the fact that i hate it

    • Randomtester

      there was this fakemon called tomehawk it looked so dope

  • Well there you have a bad story line 🙁

  • zak

    Fake because its supposed to show the shadow of the pokemon behind their sprite

    • Skiddo

      it does…

      • MErfth

        but barely….oh well im waiting for someone to give a legit reason why this is fake please….i dont want this to be real

        • Skiddo

          I don’t mind the Froakie evo… I just don’t like how the Fighting/Flying thing looks…. Mienshao should’ve been Fighting/Flying or something…

  • ShinyXatu

    Maybe the guy meant that he SAW 70 new Pokemon and barely experienced the endgame?

    • Skiddo

      Hopefully

      • ShinyXatu

        I’m only trying to think positively, because that’s all I will ever do XD

    • Alucard

      Maybe the guy is currently laughing his ass off at all this wild speculation his photoshop work produced? XD

      • MErfth

        LOL

        • Alucard

          Well I know I would do that if my fakemons would be taken for real.

      • ShinyXatu

        I hope he appreciates it, because we are starving fans!

  • 555wali555

    this is pure fake i mean look at greninja it doesnt even have the bubbles on the back and i heard lots of rumors that the bubbles will get longer on the back and stuff like that and i heard that he will get darker and so on and a the other one looks like it culd actualy be real so i just dont beleve greninja

    • PokeMaster96

      Hawklucha has to be real the name could be changed though but I like it I want it to evolve into a badass pokemon

  • Ben

    I swear I heard somewhere that there will be at least 100 new Pokemon. I find these screenshots believable, but not the info…

  • PokeMaster96

    Greninja is the pokeball that’s sticking out it’s obvious and there’s a masterball so it has to be either Xerneas or Yveltal or a new legendary because Greninjas level is 66

  • MuhFugginMoose

    I’ve gotta say the Hawklucha is real. We hav another picture of it from a different poster.
    http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/attachment.php?aid=7140

    • Skiddo

      Apparently I do not have permission to view the page :p

    • Ghoster

      you shouldn’t post it like that people who don’t have an account on that forum can’t see, though it seems a like it

    • Skiddo

      Can you screenshot it?

  • MasterMime

    Guys, I think this is real. Not sure if we’re allowed to post stuff from other Pokemon fan sites. But this is too good NOT to share.

    http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/attachment.php?aid=7140

    • Alucard

      Can’t see anything without an account…..

  • TCMets
    • ShinyXatu

      Ohmigosh that looks very legitimate!

    • ShinyXatu

      Look at that Quilladin: it’s level 33! It will evolve soon! 😀

      • Caitlin

        YES! Why oh why didn’t they evolve it then show it :O

        • ShinyXatu

          It probably evolves after he defeats that Emolga XD

        • Cerpint

          People were begging him. He said he’d post another once it evolved.

      • TCMets

        The person apparently said he will reveal the evolution when he gets it up a few levels.

        • Skiddo

          Someone should do it for Fennekin…

        • Missingno. Master

          You mean I’ll finally get to see what Chespin will ultimately become? Yes!!

        • Claus H. Luíz

          YEEESSSSS!!
          We’re almost there! To the horizon!

        • ChaosRevanLord

          So its been 4 hours now…

    • Skiddo

      I LOVE it! The first one…. Can’t wait to go there!! 😀

      • Ghoster

        I can’t see the first one

    • Dicie

      WHOA! Dat place look leik Stonehenge and DAT CHESPIN!!!

    • Mike

      This is real. Check to kalos map to find similar stones.

    • Mike

      What’s behind him in the first image?

    • BulbaSword

      This one is not too revealing, which makes it more believable.

  • ToughnWise

    Yea… I’m pretty sure they’re not going in the direction of a overly sized tongue scarf! And the Hawk..Lucha fighter, Where’s the connection between those two things??

    I know the imaging can almost look real.. But we all know how well people have pull it off before and had been confirmed fake!

    One last thing, they added too many uncomplimentary pieces to that 2nd froakie evo!

  • Guest

    I’m seriously confused… Last year I remembered being terrified emboar would be real but now I like it. There seems to be a pattern with Pokemon, amazing starters, amazing legendaries but the final evolutions of the starters change a lot. The images look really real. I was never going to pick froakie anyway, but I am disappointed. The tongue scarf is slightly creepy and perhaps a bit too creative. But apart from that, one thing really scares me about this rumour, which is the small amount of new pokemon. These games have seemed AMAZING lately, with a new type, mega evolution, 3d graphics, two great legendaries. But the small amount of new pokemon would really hinder this game. Mega evolved pokemon to me are more like half a pokemon, than a full one, so making less pokemon because the meg for it doesn’t work for me. But, it seems sense that there will be less pokemon this year, because there will be a lot of older pokemon in the regional dex, which can be inferred to mean less pokemon. As if these old pokemon are just there to fill up the empty space. And if you think about how mega evolutions are only available to pokemon from older regions, that also supports this argument. But, as people have already stated, the pictures and the text may be separate. I just hope that this was Greninjas little animation, on which it wraps itself with its tongue, concealing its bubbles, and then puts it’s tongue back in its mouth. Can’t wait for the 12 th 🙂

  • brayan

    the evo of froakie looks like a whole new pokemon

    • ShinyXatu

      Not really…not at all. They are both blue and white frogs.

  • MasterMime
    • ShinyXatu

      Where are you finding these things! I want to search as well!

    • MasterMime

      I’m now convinced…Which is disappointing cuz I don’t like Froakies Evo but I’ll have to wait to get a better look at it

    • Skiddo

      Wow…. The proof I was waiting for has come…. But why are the 3DS’s Home and Select mirrored???

      • ShinyXatu

        Sometimes pictures are taken mirrored for whatever reason.

        • Ghoster

          I believe it’s so that they can’t press charges on copyright as easily at least a youtuber said it was something of the sorts once

          • ShinyXatu

            That would only make the pictures more legitimate 😀

    • Alucard

      Hate to be that guy, but those feathers make it look like he has balls XD
      ok I have a dirty mind I know….

      Still don’t like the design and still don’t think it is legit.

      • ShinyXatu

        Sounds like you are in denial 😉

        • Alucard

          Maybe I am.
          I just don’t get the assymetrical number of feathers.
          Plus it looks like a fakemon I saw on deviantart.

          • Ghoster

            One father is most likely behind the torso

    • Atmosphere

      wow that looks a lot cooler then the other screen shots

    • Ghoster

      not only does that look legit to me but in better quality I actually think it’s a good design, could be worse at least

    • Claus H. Luíz

      Oooh~♪ I’m liking this bird a lot more!
      Wonder what its pre-evo looks like.

      • Dominic

        or it’s evolution, it doesn’t look fully evolved to me

        • Claus H. Luíz

          But, it is… It’s Lv63.

          • Dominic

            It could be a stone evolution … or a trade evolution, and he just can’t evolve it for the obvious reasons. The Pokémon games are not that hard so s/he could very well have played through with a first stage poke.

          • Claus H. Luíz

            Welp, if that’s what it takes to make you feel better,
            go ahead and keep believing that. ʕ •́؈•̀)

          • Dominic

            That’s just rude and unnecessary. It’s because of people like you that there are ban announcements.

          • Claus H. Luíz

            lmao! I guess! Wow, didn’t know you were so sensitive.
            My apologies.

    • Dicie

      Dedenny likey.

    • hen da man

      Now, look at the way everything is facing in this pic. The Home button and Select button are backwards, right? Now look at which way the bird is facing, to the right. Now in the other pictures, the bird is also facing to the right and the picture is the right way. I think this potentially proves it is fake.

    • Ultron

      I would like it more if it had clawed feet. Not too bad of a design though. Although I always wanted the first flying/fighting type to be a chicken 🙁

      • Claus H. Luíz

        I agree with the clawed-feet part.
        Actually, that would’ve look like a harpy brawler, which is a good thing!

      • Dominic

        we already have blaziken though. the blazing fighting chicken

        • Ultron

          O yeah…well a bluejay could be flying/fighting!

    • Deoxys911

      I like that design, I would train one, but it doesn’t seem like a design that GF would come up with to me. However, if it turns out to be real, I’ll be OK with that for sure.

    • OMFG ITS BEAUTIFUL IN HQ

    • belmad

      It looks pretty good design to be honest. They’re mixing hawk with a luchadore and yet it looks like native american warriors. Reminded me this:

      http://dma.wtw-x.net/DMA/DigimonStands/Bandai/Garudamon.jpg

      • FyrenXSalamence

        :’) Crying tears of nostalgia now.

    • FyrenXSalamence

      Flying/Fighting finally! Bird fans rejoice!

  • Dennis Lougharn

    If that rumored image of Fennekin’s final evo I commented is real, I’m nicknaming my Fennekin, Ashley

    • Skiddo

      I haven’t seen it!!!! Link?

      • Dennis Lougharn

        this

        • Skiddo

          Wow….

        • Mr.Samurott

          I dont like it D: what wrong with pokemon OMG!!

          • Atmosphere

            don’t be a negative nelly

          • Mr.Samurott

            okokok but!! I prefer another desing dude

          • Atmosphere

            DON’T CALL ME A DUDE! I am a dudette and expect to be treated like one 😀

          • Mr.Samurott

            HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH!!!! Im sorry dudette!!!! bbut yeah why not?

        • Missingno. Master

          WHOA. Me like.

        • Dicie

          WHOA. MAGE CONFIRMED. EPIC!

        • Alucard

          Can’t see anything where is the link Oo

  • Skiddo

    So is it safe to call these real?

    • ShinyXatu

      I will, I don’t know about the rest of you XD

    • Missingno. Master

      We can’t say either way definitively just yet.

    • TCMets

      Yes.

      • TCMets

        The pictures that is. The text, meh, I doubt it.

    • PokeMaster96

      I think so I believe them I would call them real until more info is revealed

    • Dennis Lougharn

      not really, that badger pokemon recently was discredited and it had a 3d model

      • ShinyXatu

        But now we have striking evidence of Hawlucha, which means that all connected information must be real as well.

        • Dennis Lougharn

          really? actually, I still feel pretty meh about both of these pokemon so I don’t really care if they’re real or not

        • PokeMaster96

          Hawlucha has to be real look at the lens flare someone took this picture and you can see a ceiling light in the background why would someone want to fake this if this person faked this person has no life

        • Alucard

          Unless someone just took the screenshots and added the text.
          Happended with the fake Pokebeach rumor site before.

  • MasterMime

    Apparently the two-headed Pokemon that has been mentioned places:

    http://i42.tinypic.com/2e207k4.jpg

    • CrispyAllDay

      are those pies!!?

      • Skiddo

        First thought it was a cupcake with two arms

        • CrispyAllDay

          well, it’s still just rumors on the net. i have to see it in the actual game to believe it. but if it was real then i’m really wondering what kinda typing it has

    • ShinyXatu

      Oh god…oh god. OH GOD WHAT THE HELL!

      • defensivebastiodon

        They look like… Underwater barnacle plants… I can’t remember what they’re called. I kinda like it.

    • Skiddo

      What is that???? Barnacles? Underwater Flowers?? If it is, it makes sense since Dive is returning… or at least I think it is…

    • Alucard

      Ok now that one cant POSSIBLY be real… Are you kidding me now?^^

      I can draw something better on the spot XD

      • ShinyXatu

        I’m with you on this one; it’s freaking terrible.

        • Sable

          It looks to be in the same area as the Luchawk down below, and the buttons are completely different…

          • ShinyXatu

            I would say that this one is fake, although I am unsure whether these images and the ones above are from the same person.

          • Cerpint

            The guy who posted this posted this posted one of hawlucha

      • MasterMime

        I’m pretty sure “Vanilluxe” and “Garbodor” couldn’t be real either, not every Pokemon is pretty

        • Alucard

          They had questionable design decisions, but they were still drwan with the same style as every other pokemon.
          This looks like something I doodle during higher mathematics….

          • MasterMime

            What about Stunfisk? 😛

          • Alucard

            I like stunfisk he has that evil look on his face in the animation XD

            Seriously put both images side by side stunfisk drawing style is a lot different

          • Ghoster

            how that you get that little fish in the discussion if the poor thing hears you comparing him to this he’ll suicide, god help us… tell us what’s true, or someone, anyone really

          • LMFAO

        • While I agree to this, that two headed Poke just looks like a contender for ugliest Poke possible. It legit looks like Dugtrio, Vanillish and a pile of dung all churned out an egg at the daycare center and produced this two headed pie thing.

          • Daniel Rojas

            Another Water/Rock? Oh God… I wanted it to be more water bug 🙁

    • Missingno. Master

      Ooh, that’s pretty interesting.

    • Wes

      It looks like coral growing on a rock…

      • Daniel Rojas

        Bug/Water?

    • natethepipkin

      what in arceus’ name?

    • Ghoster

      Please no, get it in a closet and lock it now!!!!

    • thekyletan

      Game Freak literally revealed the best design first..

    • sebi

      Looks like a waterflower xD

    • Mr.Samurott

      wtf is that? ajaaahahah I was expecting the sushi pokemon not the pie pokemon

    • TCMets

      Get those worms out of my pie!!

    • Skiddo

      Where are you getting these from??? What are you searching???

      • TCMets

        Leaker on Pokebeach forums. Said he’s going to reveal Chespin’s final evolution when he evolves it.

        • Skiddo

          Ohhh ok can’t wait!!!!!!!

        • MasterMime

          But then he said he has to leave for now….suspicious

          • TCMets

            Well he was getting a lot of attention. His pics were going viral around Poke sites. Nintendo would be on him like stink on s**t.

          • Sable

            ITS BECAUSE WE ARE POSTING EVERYTHING IN THE OPEN. GUYS WE MUST GO EMAIL.

        • zeldaoreonerd

          i cant wait for it!! but wont he get in serious trouble?

          • TCMets

            If Nintendo finds out who he is, yes.

    • Dicie

      WTF is this? And who’s evolving Chespin’s final? WHEN IS THIS?

      • ShinyXatu

        It’s happening in five minutes! Get the popcorn!

        • Missingno. Master

          FIVE MINUTES?! ARE YOU SERIOUS?! F*** YES!!!!

          • ShinyXatu

            No, I am absolutely positively not serious.

        • thekyletan

          I should be sleeping now but I suppose I could wait awhile more. Lol.

        • Skiddo

          Someone’s being really nice to do all this for us 🙂

        • MasterMime

          Where did you get 5 minutes from? The “leaker” said this pic was his last. So no way to know if he’ll post again

          • ShinyXatu

            It was a joke, which you guys seemed to latch onto XD sorry about that.

        • Dicie

          WHO SAID FIVE MINS? And who’s downvoting all of my comments?

          • ShinyXatu

            I DID AND I LIED!

    • Kyle

      It’s Kyle How am i exposed to play with this in amie?

    • Wes

      Apparently it’s name is Binacle.

    • BulbaSword

      So is it Dugduo or Dugtrio(2/3)?

  • defensivebastiodon

    If there were any scarves on the Froakie evo, it would probably be bubbles, not a tongue.

    • Missingno. Master

      If there was anything sticking out of the Bayleef evo’s head, it would probably be leaves, not weird antennae. Just saying…

      • belmad

        Do you know plant life cycle right?

      • defensivebastiodon

        It’s a plant.

      • defensivebastiodon

        They represent plants. Bayleef is based of a literal bay leaf, but meganium is based of a flower, probably a germanium… The antenna aren’t antenna, it’s the flower’s filaments and stigmas

  • Mr.Samurott

    I like froakie design but please I dont like the stuff about endgame and the 70 pokemon 🙁 the bird ist bad!!

  • rickys

    I don’t think it is only going to be 70 pokemons. Maybe he is only talking about Central Kalos.

    • ShinyXatu

      But that would leave a very small number of Pokemon for Coastal Kalos…

      • Dicie

        And Mountain Kalos as well.

        • ShinyXatu

          Yes, that was the name! Thanks Dedennyden.

      • rickys

        yea. center is always the big part anyway.

  • thekyletan

    It could be real. It’s possible these are taken with a low quality camera.

    • PokeMaster96

      thats what i was thinking to

  • PokeMaster96

    I really want to know will past generation pokemon get evolution eevee cant be the only pokemon to evolve someone has to leak pictures like this like an official Dunsparce evolution not mega

    • ShinyXatu

      I was talking about this yesterday; Gamefreak may have put an embargo on that kind of evolution in secret.

      • Mr.Samurott

        yeah!! Im agree with you!! Im expecting a list of pokemon with mega evolution

        • ShinyXatu

          Well that, and traditional evolutions like Eevee to Sylveon.

      • PokeMaster96

        I agree to cause I was thinking they want to surprise us like in 4th gen I REALLY REALLY HOPE Dunsparce evolves I like mega evoltions but but Dunsparce really needs the evolution then a mega

        • ShinyXatu

          Agreed.

      • Ghoster

        they could have very well embargoed certain parts of the embargo… oh what did I just say

        • ShinyXatu

          Something that sounds like a paradox wrapped up in a riddle.

  • belmad

    Two headed disgusting thing is this:

    http://www.marinebio.net/marinescience/03ecology/flimg/03506gos7066.jpg

    so don’t hate it it is disgusting in real life too.

    • Skiddo

      It looks like an elephant’s foot upside-down :p

    • MasterMime

      I don’t know why people are hating it, just like not ALL animals in real life are cute, not ALL pokemon are cute. I love Stunfisk but it’s not cute, neither is Muk lol

    • ShinyXatu

      Who the hell arrived at Gamefreak one day and said “Hey beeches, we need ze Pokemon based on ze peeny rock!”

      That’s what they sound like, right?

    • it looks like a deformed penis

  • Bruce

    The word “Water” next to froakie’s water moves in official screenshot looks like a different font than the one on his so called final evolution. The official ones have more squared letters yet here the “a” is pointed. The hawk thing could be real but I don’t believe the text or the froakie evo.

    • Sable

      Yeah, good catch. Font is completely different.

  • MuhFugginMoose

    T_T
    From the guy who sent me the Hawklucha pic. . .
    “ok sorry brothat was a bad joke from me
    i used photoshop and all haha sorry it was so funny
    bye”

    • ShinyXatu

      Link please?

      • Cerpint
        • MasterMime

          Don’t link. People who don’t have account can’t see and I don’t think we should be linking to other poke-sites on here anyway. (I got too excited to share the pic and realize I shouldn’t have tried to do that either)

          • ShinyXatu

            Sorry, that was all my fault. I didn’t even know it was from Pokebeach.

          • Sable

            Actually, that one opened up just fine for me. The earlier link didn’t though.

          • Cerpint

            gottcha. I understand it’s just hard to have an informed conversation without supporting links. (I’d take it down but I can’t see how)

    • TCMets

      Ohhhhhhhh well.

    • Mr.Samurott

      Ohhh!! well he really knows how to use photoshop

    • MasterMime

      Yea, the leaker all of a sudden said that. I’m not buying it. Those pics are too well done to be photoshop. They’re not Based on anything else (ie the badger background being based on Helipotiles background)…I think he’s worried about getting in trouble.

      • ShinyXatu

        Maybe he’s trying to get out of the embargo!

      • Alucard

        That doesn’t make much sense.
        If those screens are real he is in big trouble regardless of what he says now. Why would he lie now of all times?

        I think it was a really well made hoax.

      • TCMets

        I agree. Those Pokedex screens look way too legitimate. Not something we’ve seen before (I don’t think?)

    • Dennis Lougharn

      any proof, link, anything?

    • Dicie

      Aww. At least we had something to discuss over the morning. More leaks to come!

    • Skiddo

      T_T wut did he do that for T_T

      • MuhFugginMoose

        I have a feeling he may be lying to make it seem like he Photoshopped it.

  • OKAY! Now I’m CONVINCED their real. IT IS BEYOND BEAUTIFUL IN HQ. The low quality shot didn’t do this Pokemon JUSTICE AT ALL. It is def going on my team, Flying/Fighting. Its a spin on a “high flying wrestler”, a mexican one, lucha libre!! AHHH MY BODY IS READY

    • Dicie

      Despite the fact that it looks stunning, I think it was already confirmed fake. But I love it anyways! 😀

      • Ultron

        Here’s an upvote 🙂

        • Dicie

          Thank you. Same for you. 😀

      • ShinyXatu

        Don’t let it get to you. People are stupid sometimes.

        • Dicie

          And here we continue with more downvotes. ARGHH. It makes me feel like not posting any more comments. ;|

          • Skiddo

            NO!!! KEEP POSTING! You say some good stuff 🙂

          • Dicie

            One man’s opinion doesn’t mean anything. And I mean REALLY, every comment of mine. I just feel like leaving.

          • Mr.Samurott

            hater gonna hate forever

          • ShinyXatu

            DICIE STOP WORRYING ABOUT WHAT OTHER PEOPLE DO!

          • Mr.Samurott

            yeah1!! I learned it yesterday

    • MacSkiddo

      now i like it since it more clear and not just head is shown

  • MacSkiddo

    Look i hate the final evo but here how it can be fake and real
    how its real
    We seen this before the fianl evos of gen 5 were leaked way before it
    It kinda matches the leak Description
    How its fake
    Froakie main thing was foam bubbles around it neck losing doesn’t make him froakie EVO line
    It look photoshopped

  • Micah
    • MasterMime

      People can’t see if they don’t have an account and I don’t think we should link to other poke-sites on here. I for one still thinking he just said that to get heat off of him

      • Alucard

        Actually that page can be accessed by anyone

    • Dennis Lougharn

      both of these pokemon?

      • Micah

        Supposedly. He even Photoshopped a third Pokemon called Binacle. He claims they were all his doing.

    • thekyletan

      A sigh of relief. Thank you.

  • MacSkiddo

    ok we have a downvoter on the site dont we

    • ShinyXatu

      SSSSSHHHHH don’t say it! We don’t have to acknowledge them!

      • MacSkiddo

        I understand (Downvoter disappears from view)

      • Mr.Samurott

        AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!!!

  • Everybd abandon ship if you don’t want to be spoiled

    THE. LEAKS. ARE. REAL

    • Dicie

      O.O

      • Atmosphere

        says who?

        • Dicie

          I dunno. But it looks pretty nice.

          • MacSkiddo

            I cant trust it still we seen some good fakes

    • Mr.Samurott

      How do you know?

      • Same guy who leaked Froakie’s final evo just leaked this. I’m outta here, the internet isn’t safe anymore

        • Dennis Lougharn

          leaked what? hawlucha?

        • Atmosphere

          *gives a wooden sword* here take this with you

    • Dicie

      I love this picture so much. Reminds me of the hikers in R/B.

    • Skiddo

      wut??????? O.O People have to stop confusing me :/

      • Skiddo

        Didn’t see the pic ya I love the looks of that place!

    • CrispyAllDay

      links?

    • ShinyXatu

      Are you a wizard Harry?

    • Alucard

      Except for those who just turned out to be fake XD

    • TCMets

      Posted this before. It’s why I agree with MasterMime. These are way too legit and of things we haven’t seen before.

    • Bruce

      They are not real. The font does not match the font of official screenshots we’ve seen of the starters in their summary.

  • thekyletan

    Never been so deceived before.

  • X

    its fake.;… 100%%%

  • MacSkiddo

    my brain hurt so is it real or is fake one guy says it fake one guy says it real im going to explode

    • MasterMime

      I at least believe Hawklucha is real…but we’ll see eventually

      • MacSkiddo

        Fraokie final Evo has to be fake it needs it Foam on its neck and epic smug

  • MuhFugginMoose

    One problem I’ve seen with this apparent fake leaker. . . and it’s in this Pic.
    http://oi40.tinypic.com/2v9k3.jpg

    If it’s photoshopped. it’d be damn difficult do give it a nickname like Dr.Mundo. . .

    • Ghoster

      well he could have photoshoped a simple image and with the right ambient light and photo configuration, as in angle and etc he could achieve that without to much photoshop skills

      • MuhFugginMoose

        Why would he go through the trouble when it’s much easier to leave it as Quilladin?

        • Alucard

          Fun? To make it look more believable?
          Why would anyone go through all the trouble of creating fake images in the first place?

          • MuhFugginMoose

            Well, of course.
            But he’d get the same attention if he’d left the name Quilladin.
            It just seems like it’d be pointless.

          • Alucard

            The whole thing is pointless i don’t get why this one tiny bit makes you question it.

            If he is editing the image anyway adding a new name isn’t much trouble at all.

          • MuhFugginMoose

            Because no one just photoshops nicknames onto their pokemon. . . .
            That’s why it seems suspicious.
            None of the pictures he’s revealed we have seen outside of his leaks. . .
            There;s a reason why.

          • Alucard

            Ok believe what you want, but i don’t get your logic at all.
            So noone else photoshops the nicknames of their pokemon?
            And?^^ What is so special about that? If I photoshop a pink hat on the head of a fakemon does it have to be legit because “noone would ever do that”?

          • MuhFugginMoose

            . . .
            Okay, your attempt to make me seem “Gullible” was quite childish. . .
            The difference between your Pink Hat and my nickname is the fact that the attention would have been given if his name was Quilladin. No one goes out of their way to add a nickname to a fake leak.

          • Alucard

            Why? Just because you repeat it doesn’t make it more true.
            He could have done it jut for fun and you take it as unquestionable proof that this has to be true because… noone would do that… Yeah maybe he would so now what?

          • MuhFugginMoose

            I’m not saying what he’s shown us is absolutely proof, but I think it’d be odd to reveal pics, we’ve never seen before I might add, then come out and say it was photoshopped.
            Where did he get such a Perfect picture of “Hawklucha”?
            These are all things you’ve gotta think about. Especially this close to the reveal. We all know these people aren’t supposed to leak this info. And the way I see it is, he revealed it, FAR more people than he expected saw it, and said it was “fake”.
            They do it everytime a new game comes out.

          • Alucard

            http://pokemon-xy-news.tumblr.com/image/62528165846

            That one has been revealed to be fake as well and it was about the same quality as hawklucha.

          • MuhFugginMoose

            The “Badger” Pokemon you just showed me isn’t even in the same 3D model as the other pokes.
            The Hawklucha he showed us was pretty good quality.
            That “badger” was horribly and quite obviously Photoshopped.

          • Alucard

            Ok I don’t see any difference whatsoever. The first Hawklucha pics look exactly the same quality as the badger and the new one is just a 2d drawing. How would that be hard to photosop onto a 3ds screen?

          • MuhFugginMoose

            Then you’re not looking at the same picture I’m looking at. . .

  • ShinyXatu

    Next time on Real or Fake, Pokemon fans get revenge on the FAKE LEAKER!

  • Mr.Samurott

    (ಠ益ಠ) OMG SOMEONE IS SAYING: ITS FAKE AND ANOTHER PERSON IS SAYING: NOONONONO ITS TRUE!! OMG IM DUNNO!!

  • David Nixon

    Looks like we got a Froakie Case on our hands,So whats the scoop?

  • PhoenixRa

    I freakin’ love Hawklucha!…i mean, come on, Flying/Fighting is a new and great combination, also, it reminds me a Mexican wrestler!…A luchar, compadre! xD…love it.

  • Kyudeci

    See you guys October 12th I’ve had enough of this!

    • Skiddo

      Bye Kyu!

    • ShinyXatu

      Okaaaaay…bye.

      • Kyudeci

        Your in charge while I’m gone!

    • FyrenXSalamence

      To leave or not to leave!

  • Igneel’sGrandson566

    On Pokebeach the leaker confirmed these are fakes a minute ago.

    • MuhFugginMoose

      That’s a different leaker.

  • Dennis Lougharn

    I don’t really want to spam the comments with this image, but is there a possibility the person who faked both these pokemon also might’ve faked this?

    • Skiddo

      Definitely a possibility :p

  • Atmosphere

    http://legacy-cdn.smosh.com/smosh-pit/112010/pika-pwned.gif IF SOMONE DOSENT COME CLEAN RIGHT NOW IM GOING TO KEEP HITTING THIS PIKACHU

    • ShinyXatu

      PIKABUSE!

  • Mr.Samurott

    ╔═══╗╔╗
    ║╔═╗║║║
    ║╚═╝║║║─╔══╗╔══╗╔══╗╔══╗
    ║╔══╝║║─║║═╣║══╣║╔╗║║║═╣
    ║║───║╚╗║║═╣╠══║║╔╗║║║═╣
    ╚╝───╚═╝╚══╝╚══╝╚╝╚╝╚══╝ Someone tell me if it is fake or not!>

    • andibad

      fake

      • Dicie

        Stop posting assumptions. It was never confirmed that these rumors are fake or real, so stop assuming.

        • Mr.Samurott

          OHH THANKS :d

        • andibad

          so, … why still asking these pic are real or not?

    • hen da man

      Please*

  • MasterMime

    “This smells an awful lot like a hasty cover-up attempt. For what it’s worth, I checked the images with one of those jpeg compression analyzer things, and there wasn’t any kind of weird distortion around the pokemons (or anywhere else, for that matter). Our leaker here would have to be a pretty damn good photoshopper if these were indeed fake, since I can’t find any weird parts in the images and the style of the pokemon matches the official pokes’ looks’, not to mention that the blurriness of the pokes seems to match that of the background elements.”

    • MasterMime

      I’m not technologically advanced but some people that are are analyzing the pics and can’t seem to find any trace of it being “photoshoppped” etc.

      • Claus H. Luíz

        He kinda disobeyed Game Freak. Maybe he’s feeling the effects of the fear they can induce? Lol

    • Sable

      Plus, the guy’s claiming of how fake they are is… inconsistant.

      “im not a good artist i know
      i took the bird for the previous fake leak and just create something messing up with the color lol”

      Uh? WHAT Previous Fake Leak? We’ve never seen this bird before, and just messing with color?

  • Guest

    ◣◢)┌∩┐ LAKKKEERRRR!!

    • ShinyXatu

      (image)

  • paipr
    • Skiddo

      About 5,000,000 and a half people have posted this now :p

    • Mr.Samurott

      LOOK AT THE BOTTOM .-.

  • MacSkiddo

    This can also be real remember when this popped up

    • ShinyXatu

      Yep, I remember that day. I am still very convinced that these are not fake.

    • MasterMime

      I didn’t see this but if I had, I would’ve been like FAKE FAKE FAKE. Especially with Samurott lol

    • Caitlin

      Fake. These are clearly just edited versions of existing pokemon.

      • MacSkiddo

        that what they said back then o i ger it

      • belmad

        Tsutarja evo is based on Milotic, Pokabu evo has same arms and the same posture with Ryhperior and Mijumaru one is clearly Dialga.

  • Jordin

    I just woke up and immediately checked Pokejungle. Saw “X & Y SPOILERS” I couldn’t resist 🙁

    These seem to be real but WWHHY couldn’t he/she have started with Chespin!!!???

    • Skiddo

      They said they’d post it

      • Jordin

        THEY DID!!!??? :DD MY LIFE IS COMPLETE!

        • MacSkiddo

          Jordin could u make me icon with Skiddo and Gogoat?

          • MacSkiddo

            oh ya with a M

          • Ghoster

            but your’s already fits what you’re asking and it seems like it’s jordin’s well known and liked style

        • MasterMime

          Don’t get too excited, Jordin. The guy said he’d post that but then said he had to go. Then came back saying this is fake (which I don’t buy)

          • Claus H. Luíz

            Neither do I. Someone else on the PB forums said he uses Photoshop as a profession and told the leaker he’s never seen photoshopping skills THAT good. Someone else said after he said he was leaving, the leaker was still online. He was even still online after he said they were fake and that his photoshop skills need more work. He must be scared of the exposure.

        • Ghoster

          Jordin would you be so kind ad to make me a icon of yours with a haunter and the letter M, thank you if you can good sir…

          • Jordin

            Sure 🙂

          • Ghoster

            Thanks so much

          • Jordin

            Here you go 🙂

          • Ghoster

            Thanks it’s so cool

    • TCMets

      http://oi42.tinypic.com/2hxra12.jpg

      http://oi40.tinypic.com/2v9k3.jpg

      Here’s a couple pictures you missed while asleep. From some leaker on Pokebeach who is now trying to say he photoshopped everything.

      I agree with MasterMime, he’s really trying to cover his tracks because these went viral and can get him in serious trouble if caught.

      • Jordin

        Thank you!! 😀 Only a few more levels until evolution~

    • Mr.Samurott

      ╔╦╦╦╦╦╦╦╦╦╦╦╦╗
      ╠╬╬╬╬╬╬╬╬╬╬╬╬╣
      ╠╬╬╬╬╬╬╬╬╬╬╬╬╣
      ╠╬╬█╬╬╬╬╬╬█╬╬╣
      ╠╬╬╬╬╬╬╬╬╬╬╬╬╣
      ╠╬╬╬╬╬╬╬╬╬╬╬╬╣
      ╠╬█╬╬╬╬╬╬╬╬█╬╣
      ╠╬██████████╬╣
      ╠╬╬╬╬╬╬╬╬╬╬╬╬╣
      ╚╩╩╩╩╩╩╩╩╩╩╩╩╝ I think chespin has the best evolution design therfore hey dont post it

  • thekyletan

    Maybe that dude was sent by game freak to leak every single shit.

    • ShinyXatu

      And the conspiracy theories start…now.

      • Dicie

        XD

        • ShinyXatu

          “Maybe…Gamefreak is really sent by the Japanese government to spy on the American government.”

  • Kyle

    wheres chespins evo? This is Kyle again!!!

    • thekyletan

      I’m Kyle.

      • ShinyXatu

        You mindf***ers.

      • Kyle

        Im Kyle Kottenbrook! I’m at my girlfriends housee it’s our 4 year anniversary today

        • ShinyXatu

          • Kyle

            yesss?? you know I do not lie I am a man of my word shiny xatu

          • ShinyXatu

            No, it’s just funny seeing the three Kyles fight over their name 😛

          • Kyle

            Actually I was the first one also sorry about the confusion lol

        • thekyletan

          Good for you! Happy 4 years anniversary!

          • Kyle

            Thank you i appreciate it

        • Claus H. Luíz

          A-are you using your Onix against her Cloyster?
          …I mean, congrats on 4 years!

          • Jordin

            Hahaha

          • Claus H. Luíz

            I’m giggling like a lil’ kid.

          • ShinyXatu

            …That was both funny and uncalled for at the same time XD

          • Kyle

            more like a steelix and a shellder ;D….. and thank you it’s mch appreciated

          • Claus H. Luíz

            MY GOODNESS! That’s OP. Take it easy…
            …I mean, you’re welcome!

  • Jordin

    “He also mentioned that XY only introduce around 70 new Pokémon. He also said that there barely is any endgame, with you only being able to catch Mewtwo and the Z legendary.”

    That’s not so good 🙁 These games have so much potential!!!

    • TCMets

      Don’t believe the text. Not associated with the pictures I believe.

      • Jordin

        Wheeww what a relief!

      • Cerpint

        -aerodactyle will have a megaevo
        -exp.share can be activate to share exp with ALL Pokémon in the team
        -some place have 3d actually but overworld is 90% without it
        -teamflare uses a lot of houndour / zubat etc. classic Pokémon from rival team
        -circlepad=rollerskate / direction buttons=running
        -you can choose 4 obj to be used with Y
        -pokedex is 3d so be sure to slide up the 3d slider!
        -binacle is n.21 Pokémon in the coast pkdx, its like a sea creatures with two heads -anemon I think their called?- (i guess its evolution will have three…) and its rock/water

        This was the text the really convincing now proclaimed faker put out

        • ShinyXatu

          Half of those are things we proved months ago.

          • Cerpint

            agreed. But i had issue. I thought it was confirmed that exp.share was changing back to exp.all. I see a lot of “leakers” mention exp.share.

        • TCMets

          Not the text I’m referring to.

    • Mr.Samurott

      EXACLYYY D;

  • Ultron

    I hope this isn’t like black and white, how the final evolutions are drastically different from the 1st and 2nd stages. When the leaked Samurott, emboar, and serperior were revealed as true I was sooo mad because I thought emboar and samurott were too ugly to be true so I didn’t want to believe it. (I still do not like samurott or emboar). I just hope this is a bad fake and froakie evolves into a BA looking frog that’s not ugly like this one is.

    • ShinyXatu

      I don’t really care for Serperior or Emboar, but I really like Samurott.

      • MasterMime

        I love all 3 of them, first gen is the only gen where I don’t love all 3. I’m neutral to Charizard and Blastoise

        • Ultron

          mmm the only region where I like all of the starters final evos would be 4th gen and maybe the 3rd gen

      • Ultron

        I’m just not a fan of it’s mustache and conchshell horn. It doesn’t even look like an otter anymore. It could also be that I was really mad samurott turned out to be a pure type because I hate pure types. So maybe that made me biased against it’s design. I do like serperior though.

  • Dennis Lougharn
    • ShinyXatu

      That’s what I am doing right as we speak XD

      • MacSkiddo

        Shinyxatu did u see my picture of my new pokemon

        • ShinyXatu

          Yeah I saw it last night, that was awesome 😀

          • MacSkiddo

            I named after a god like person

          • ShinyXatu

            Awwwwwwwwwww……..
            THANKS!

  • MacSkiddo

    Really fakemon popped up every and like all the time and they can be real or fake but when the leaker says it fake it fake and if we got a leaker whos say it real im not trusting them.

    • ShinyXatu

      But we can’t trust them if they say it is fake: maybe they are trying to seem like amazing Photoshoppers and gain fans in these last two weeks.

  • David Nixon

    Yo calm down guys,So whats the problem and whats the scoop?

  • thekyletan

    Who else is waiting for chespin final evo to be leaked. Though we all or prolly most of us know it’s fake. But whatever.

  • FyrenXSalamence

    I used to not like Froakie much. But now I’m liking him more and more 🙂 The supposed evo in this article’s picture actually looks really neat I think. But so does that other fan-made one. Arghhh can’t decide if I’d like a fighting or flying more! Even though flying is my favorite type, I was kinda hoping for fighting. But the pic almost changes my mind. Maybe it uses its “tongue scarf” to grapple onto things? I don’t know but that’d be pretty cool. Who else started off not liking
    Froakie but then changed the more you learned about him?

  • Missingno. Master

    I think the only lie the leaker’s fed us is that they’re fake. General consensus on Pokebeach seems to be that the guy’s trying to weasel out of potential trouble with Nintendo by claiming to have faked this stuff.

    • Sable

      Yeah, his claim on how he faked them doesn’t really hold up. Especially as he said he photoshopped a previously fake leak bird. On top of that, all he said he did was mess with the colors…. uuuum what?

    • Or that it is actually… fake. What a concept.

      • Missingno. Master

        I dunno, if they’re fake, then they’e some damn good fakes, even by damn good fake standards.

        • I am still not going to trust them. Until we have solid proof they are real, I will consider them fake.

    • Alucard

      That wouldnt actually work.
      He already broke the NDA regardless of what he does now.
      unless he is really dumb I don’t see why he would try something like that.

  • MacSkiddo

    still waiting on my bowl, spoon,fork, knife pokemon

    • ShinyXatu

      That’ll be saved for the Utensila region!

      • Missingno. Master

        A region based entirely on utensils?

        That’s forked up.

        • ShinyXatu

          XD That joke needs to be spoon-fed some improvement!

          • hen da man

            NO MORE PUNS PLEASE NOT AGAIN

          • ShinyXatu

            …Someone’s getting a bit Shiftry XD
            Okay, I’m done.

  • TCMets

    Why the f**k do Froakie and Fennekin keep getting the “leaked” evolutions? We got the Froakie evolution with the dark spots (confirmed fake), the one here with the tongue scarf. We got the Fennekin evolution with the stick (confirmed fake), and one posted in the comments here with a witch hat. Gimme a Chespin final evolution people!!!

    • FyrenXSalamence

      Yeah I wanna see how it turns out too!

    • MasterMime

      I think because Quilladin was so much different than people were expecting, people don’t even know how to go about making a fake final evo

      • TCMets

        Well that’s true haha.

    • Even fatter and happier. Still green and brown.

    • Dennis Lougharn

      quilladin didn’t get fakevolutions because he wanted chibi art of him instead

  • Syaoran

    I don’t care if the pictures above are real or fake (heck, I’m all for them being real). But I know for certain the text is incorrect. I read an interview in which Masuda said there would be over 750 Pokemon total. And, don’t quote me on this but, I believe I read him saying there was a massive endgame.

    • The text could be a coverup after she realised that there was an embargo.

  • Agustinlobos123

    I’m having mixed emotions 🙁 What a tongue as a scarf. Barley worked up and saw this.

  • Growlithe

    This makes me worry a little

    • ShinyXatu

      Don’t worry, be happy now.

  • TalesOtaku21

    Fake. Masuda already said there is a large post game. Those models are also in the wrong style. kinda poorly done honestly.

  • Motisma

    Don’t know why I am not able to reply to posts, but

    @Dicie
    I don’t know what happened to my other comment, I am not insulting you, so don’t worry. I was commenting about the “leaker.” Is it really worth it to get into legal trouble in order to satisfy the pokemon community’s insatiable thirst for leaks? If Game freak wants us to relieve the red and blue days and really hype us up, then we need to respect that. They are the ones that make and provide us with these awesome games. We are being entitled and just plain being pieces of ungrateful poopies.

    Again, sorry if I insulted you. No need to get so defensive! No one’s gonna bite you. Don’t worry!

    • Skiddo

      Why would ANYONE bite Dicie?!?!?!

    • Dicie

      Oh, well I’m sorry about that. I was in no means to offend you. Just BTW, since someone is always downvoting my comments, I try to stay away from commenting. 😐

      • ShinyXatu

        Dicie…*sigh*
        Downvotes don’t matter. Hell, even upvotes don’t matter! It’s the conversation that counts! Please, stop limiting yourself because of this!

        • Dicie

          Well, okay. I just feel worthless when that happens. Like I’m ruining someone’s day by commenting. I don’t wanna do that.

          • ShinyXatu

            Dicie, you should have seen the amount of grieving yesterday when you left. The only thing that is happening is, you are improving people’s day!

          • Dicie

            I’m improving SOME people’s days, as now even more people are downvoting. For me, downvotes mean that people don’t appreciate my comments and they can do without me. I’ll be thinking about leaving again. No one can change my mind about thinking, because I feel like some people can do better without me. 😐

          • ShinyXatu

            There’s a thing on the internet, Dicie. It’s called trolling. When people appreciate you on the inside, they decide to go against their heart and do EXACTLY THE WRONG THING.

          • Dicie

            And I feel offended by that. Why stick around and ruin others’ days and let them step on me and troll me? I don’t need that kind of cyberbullying and stress.

          • ShinyXatu

            If you don’t want to take what I am saying into consideration, and I am really trying here, then I’m afraid I cannot deter you. We respect your decisions, so if you want to leave, then leave.

          • Dicie

            Aww. No, I don’t want you to think that. I’m just trying to get the trolls away and to give myself a clearer mind. It seems like it’s working, but it’ll most likely return. I appreciate your advice nonetheless, and I don’t want to leave, but I am a bit stressed out. I won’t leave, but that’s all thanks to your advice. 🙂

          • ShinyXatu

            You can always take a breather, Dicie, and leave the site for a couple days, but you have made yourself a new identity on this website, as have I. We cannot just drop it.

          • Dicie

            I agree. 😀

          • Motisma

            Actually, if you are stressed then it’s okay to get off the computer for a while. But please don’t think that you are not welcome here! If something is bothering me in the internet, I do that too, but I get back on once I am feeling better. Not exactly to the same thing, but something else, something that will make me happy.

          • Dicie

            That is great advice. Thank you so much. You’ve lifted a lot of stress off my back knowing this. I’ll start doing things that make me happy, and no matter what, I won’t leave, because I love the community. 😀

          • ShinyXatu

            You see those one or two people following you around and downvoting your comments? Think of how much time of their day they are wasting on YOUR behalf.

          • Dicie

            Yeah, I’ve seen them since THIS MORNING. Constant downvoting. And you do make a point. This conversation is so close to the bottom of the page and rather than participating in the PokeConversations, they think it’s worthy of their time to downvote me all day just to get me pissed and get rid of me. But you’re making me realize how f*cking stupid and time-wasting that is.

          • Motisma

            NO! Dicie, please don’t think that!!!

      • Motisma

        No worries! Don’t let the downvotes affect you, they are not THAT important! The conversation is what’s important (hint: YOUR input!)

        So let’s keep on talking about Pokemon!

      • Motisma

        OK, WHO IS DOWNVOTING?!!!!

  • hen da man

    So many contrasting opinions…. It hurts….

  • ShinyXatu

    So…REAL OR FAKE? Tell meh!

    • hen da man

      Yeeeeeeeeeeeeah about that… No one actually knows.

    • Dennis Lougharn

      well in my opinion http://i.imgur.com/t8IHP.gif

      • ShinyXatu

        That gif is glorious.

      • hen da man

        Unfortunately it isn’t true, have you not read the comments? 😛

        But great gif btw 😛

        • Dennis Lougharn

          I know but that’s just my opinion on the matter of fake or not

  • Growlithe

    My Theory is, people like to troll others, so making some amazing fakes seems to be a good idea for example my brother photo shopped a perfect looking shiny into a battle of Tauros, Just saying its easy to use photo shop if you have the skill…

  • TCMets

    Pokebeach just woke up, said the leaker’s IP is from Italy…

    • Skiddo

      The Italian Lady!!!! 😀

    • ShinyXatu

      OOOHHHH what a plot twist!

  • This is even more fake. Remember Froakie is the Bubble Frog Pokémon. It’s evolutions should keep that trait. I doubt Froakie would lose it. Also, Masuda said there will be lots of Pokémon Also, a large post-game. So, these rumors really are fake. (The bird looks awful too).

    • FyrenXSalamence

      What if his tongue scarf is actually foam? I just thought of this :/ I like the bird and I hate it at the same time. Neat idea, but the art… ouch it hurts.

    • First time i’ve ever downvoted you Afarr.

  • Sable

    Interestingly, WPM just woke up, and did say this person’s IP was from Italy…

    • Dicie

      #ItalianLadyStrikesBack?

      • ShinyXatu

        #RevengeOfTheFreak

        • MacSkiddo

          #Hashtag

          • hen da man

            Brilliant video btw 😛

          • FyrenXSalamence

            OMG We’re like bros!

          • Dennis Lougharn

            #NoRedundancy

          • MacSkiddo

            Hashtag#

      • Dennis Lougharn

        #WhatAShocker

        • Dicie

          XD

  • TCMets

    And that same leaker went through the Pokebeach thread and edited out all of his pics.

    • Jordin

      “And the plot thickens…”

    • Skiddo

      WUUUTTTTTTT?????????

    • thekyletan

      Can we see the edited version?

    • ShinyXatu

      Is this a good thing, or a bad thing?

      • MasterMime

        Good, because if it was just fake photoshop why bother removing them?

      • TCMets

        Well, it certainly makes things interesting. This person was leaking images on Pokebeach forums of things we’ve never seen before, giving a lot of credibility. When these images went viral, he backtracked and said they’re all photoshopped.

        Someone on neogafs then said: “For what it’s worth, I checked the images with one of those jpeg compression analyzer things, and there wasn’t any kind of weird distortion around the pokemons (or anywhere else, for that matter).Our leaker here would have to be a pretty damn good photoshopper if these were indeed fake, since I can’t find any weird parts in the images and the style of the pokemon matches the official pokes’ looks’, not to mention that the blurriness of the pokes seems to match that of the background elements.”

        Now this leaker has deleted all of his pictures. And WPM said his IP is from Italy.

        I think these were legit, and the leaker was afraid of getting caught by Nintendo. Gah, and just when we were so close to seeing Chespin’s final evolution.

        • ShinyXatu

          Not to mention that the person who commented on PokeBeach does not have much credibility to begin with. Why would somebody who is not already famous be posting such amazing Photoshops and expect people to believe them?

    • FyrenXSalamence

      Epic battles are going on in the comments and elsewhere. There’s so much excitement people might die from it.

    • hen da man

      Her*

    • Sable

      They also seemed to replace all the text with lots of weird nonsense.

  • MacSkiddo

    How pokemon leaks work

    • MasterMime

      1) Someone gets an advance copy of the game (either review etc) 2) That someone decides to leak information, mostly for attention 3) That’s it 😀

    • Skiddo

      haha that’s so true

  • MacSkiddo

    if only company get the game to review should they be fired for leaking

  • Dialasong

    I actually really like the Luchador Hawk. The anemone thing and the froakie evolution don’t appeal to me as much and the number of new pokemon is seriously disappointing if true, but I’d be happy if the hawk were real. The only downside is that despite being a luchador, it doesn’t look quite enough like Strong Bad for me to get away with nicknaming one that.

  • thekyletan

    A clearer look at the bird pokemon. http://images.4chan.org/vp/src/1380468417005.jpg

    • Skiddo

      where?

  • Jordin

    People think the Pokemon fan-base is dumb. -_- They delete the pictures and think we aren’t going to suspect a thing!

    • MacSkiddo

      Leaker: They wont suspect a thing(
      Us: We save the pictures smart 1
      Leaker:Well played

    • MasterMime

      I think they just don’t want someone official like from Nintendo or GameFreak to be able to see that they posted there, they’re trying to be able to deny it

    • Dennis Lougharn

      they didn’t consider the possibility that we’d be smart enough to save the images?

  • hen da man

    Does anyone else think the latest pics look like the Pokemon are too high up?

  • ToughnWise

    Even though that new deep sea tube pokemon is something that I would find as a interesting pokemon, the style and basically everything is off, I’m not talking about how the designs on Emboar looked off, I’m saying one look and I’m like yup.. That’s clearly fake.
    I will admit Hawlucha’s design is similar to a normal Sugimori style.

    • Jordin

      Love your avatar! …

      • ShinyXatu

        I see what you did there XD

        • Jordin

          What? 0.o I really love Chespin’s look in his/her avatar xD

    • MasterMime

      I actually like the Sea Tube Pokemon…guess I’m crazy

      • ToughnWise

        I do too, it’s just that it just feels off when you look at the face area. And it just doesn’t appear stylized in the same way as Sugimori style.
        I’m not claiming I know Sugimori art exactly, I’m just saying it looks nothing like it!

        …those cheek circles/dimples!

    • Motisma

      Yeah, bionicle (cough I MEAN binacle) doesn’t look right. The shading is off and it looks like a flat illustration.

  • Mitchell McKelvey

    I came back here because I heard this and my heart just sank into my stomach and tears are about to come out of my eyes: “He also mentioned that XY only introduce around 70 new Pokémon. He also said that there barely is any endgame, with you only being able to catch Mewtwo and the Z legendary.” I wanted to know what everyone else thought about this. I think the information is fake but the images are real… This is getting scary. Reviewers disobeying Nintendo. 🙁

    • MasterMime

      I really wish people (in general not just you) would at least try to read some comments (maybe in Best mode) to get an idea of the things that have been said as to not be so repititive, just my opinion

      • Mitchell McKelvey

        I read some but I’m like so scared I can cry. Is this real or fake?

  • Alucard

    This community is really weird.

    New leak comes out. Everyone argues if it is real or not.

    Leaker says it was all a fake.

    “Now that confirms it is real!”

  • littlegg

    haha fake

    • hen da man

      That A does look different..

    • Mr.Samurott

      GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODONE

    • Fen

      I love you.

    • ShinyXatu

      lol limewire

    • Commander A.Cheez

      Nice catch dude! 😀

    • zeldaoreonerd

      yeah but that was before… they could have made some changes in the few months after that was revealed

      • Daedardus

        Don’t ruin it!

        • Mr.Samurott

          lol!!1 HAHAHAH

        • zeldaoreonerd

          im trying to make a case for both sides… its just too hard when they both have convincing points!!! XD

          • Daedardus

            But, you are both making way too much sense. I should ban you all!!!!
            (joking 😉 )

          • Dicie

            Not me, I just got back from retirement. XD

          • Daedardus

            Oh, yeah, I forgot to delete all your comments. Give me a minute.

          • Dicie

            XD

          • zeldaoreonerd

            lol

      • Atmosphere

        but why something like that

        • Mr.Samurott

          Yeah!! the could change another stuff more important

      • littlegg

        Yeah, what Atmosphere said. Why adjust something like the slight font of one letter?

    • David Nixon

      Good case solving dude:D

    • Jordin

      Us Pokemon fans decipher EVERYTHING! 😀

      • Mr.Samurott

        If we love something we’ll do everything for that

    • This is probably the most compelling argument as to why they’re fake. Kudos to you, dude.

      That being said, making small changes like the text is totally plausible. Especially since that picture is from so early in the XY era. And I remember in pre-BW they showed a trailer a week or two before the release of the game that had stuff that was completely changed when the game actually came out.

      • Sable

        Yeah, I remember that Excadrill was actually an outright different color in trailers than it was in the final game.

        • Exactly. Another one I remember is that the female protag in BW was wearing a big wintercoat when she was shown walking around in the snow.
          Oh, and that the male protag’s VS sprite was COMPLETELY different.

    • ShinyXatu

      WAIT WHOA…you are a genius.

    • Missingno. Master

      Hmm… This is pretty damning evidence, but things have been known to change over the months. This was a pretty early screenshot. Remember how the first Platinum screenshot had a completely different Giratina sprite to what was in the final version?

    • J-Biz

      Sorry, but the ‘A’ WAS changed, perhaps because it resembled the R too much, but it was different in the later Torchic Distribution screenshots.

      • littlegg

        shit

      • Stefan

        Well fuck.

  • I’m baffled. 2 hours ago I was calling everything fake.

    1 hour ago better quality’s leaked and I loved them all.

    now there saying their fake and i’m gutted, I was hoping the Lucha bird turned out to be real. To me it seems like this guy is trying to cover up his dirt so he won’t get in trouble. These people sign on NDA’s.

  • Jordin

    So that means no more leaks!!? No more leaks=No Quilladin evolution=Sad Jordin, TCMets, and zeldaoreonerd 🙁

    • zeldaoreonerd

      and zeldaoreonerd!!

      • Jordin

        Edited*

    • Mitchell McKelvey

      Okay. Can we safely confirm that the 70 Pokemon and barely no aftergame thing is a fake? That’s all I ask. When I read it, my heart sank into stomach. Why the **** would Game Freak do that? It almost made me cry.

      • Jordin

        Mines too! 🙁

      • MasterMime

        No we can’t confirm that and most people have come to the conclusion that the images are real but the text is fake

        • Mitchell McKelvey

          I have a feeling the text is fake. Like the text that came with the Italian lady’s review pictures about the honey badger and all that…

      • Motisma

        The text is definitely fake, so don’t worry.

    • Kyle

      And Kyle!! D:

    • Dennis Lougharn

      don’t worry, here’s an oshawott to cheer you up http://images.wikia.com/sonicfanon/images/7/77/Oshawott.gif

      • Mr.Samurott

        UYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY SOO SWEETTTT <3.<#

  • Morrison

    I honestly think these are real. Back then, when the final Evolutions of the Gen V Starters were leaked, everyone called them fake. Somebody even claimed he faked them and posted pictures how he took parts from all kinds of Pokémon and what happened in the end? They were real. =P

    You never know and these screens look too real to be fakes. =/

  • ShinyXatu

    That leaker must be some jerk if he trolls us with a supposed “future reveal” of Quilladin’s evolution xD

    • MasterMime

      I think he was going to show it when his Quilladin evolved but got scared away by all the attention before that happened

      • ShinyXatu

        Therefore, why would he set himself up like this? I mean, he could have stayed anonymous and walked away in the first place, but he made a promise and now he is unsure.

      • Alucard

        And I think he made the “it’s all fake post” look as unconvincing as possible to see everything explode the way it did.
        It’s kinda funny that all he needed to do to convince so many people that were sceptical at first was to say it was fake.

    • Sable

      I have to say, this is the weirdest set of leaks/fakes ever. Mostly because his explanation of how everything is fake didn’t really match what was posted, nor did it explain the OW screen. This will probably be a day we wont’ forget for awhile.

    • Dennis Lougharn

      oh dear imagine if someone found him/her http://i.imgur.com/Nj3Xa.gif

  • MasterMime

    I’m still not convinced that the Froakie final evo isn’t fake. But I’m like 90% on Hawklucha, although I’m not getting attached either way. If Hawklucha is real, great, if not oh well

  • Mike

    Change of opinion.
    I feel like the images are real but the info given is fake to throw us off.

    • Mitchell McKelvey

      I think the text is fake and that the images are 100% real. Who can fake that stuff? I sadly think that someone is disobeying Nintendo and taking pictures they should not have.

    • zeldaoreonerd

      it seems someone wants us to doubt ourselves while trying to solve this case…

    • David Nixon

      Yeah case closed:)

  • Ghoster

    I out, cya later. Iwould have to be a ghost type for my heart to be able to undure such confusion and war

  • littlegg

    we won’t know until we get the games i guess

    • zeldaoreonerd

      exactly

  • Mitchell McKelvey

    Oh god. Oh god. I can barely breathe. All of this info about barely any aftergame and just Mewtwo and the Z Legendary to be caught and only 70 Pokemon overall is upsetting. Someone is toying with our emotions! I hope the idiot comes clean!

    • ShinyXatu

      IT MUST BE FAKE!

    • zeldaoreonerd

      calm down… we think that the images are real but the text is fake

  • Armyofoneix

    pretty sure those images are real if they arnt *round of applause

    • Jordin

      I made your Doublade avatar check your replies/My Disqus. 🙂

      • ShinyXatu

        Oh god, I cannot check that feed anymore because of how many replies I get XD It’s been at 99 for months.

        • Jordin

          I clear out all of my replies before I go to bed checking if there are any from another article.

          #OCD

  • Jordin

    http://pokemondb.net/x-y

    “As with every new generation of games, new Pokémon are introduced. The total number of Pokémon will be brought up to over 750, meaning there will be at least 100 new Pokémon.”

    The text is fake! 😀

    • Mr.Samurott

      jordiiii thanks alot omg i love you

    • Sable

      GIVE A ROUND OF APPLAUSE TO JORDIN. *stands up*

    • Daedardus

      No real confirmation sadly, that is just a (rather nice) fan site

    • Mitchell McKelvey

      Oh god. Might just be speculation on the fan site’s part. 🙁

  • Mr.Samurott

    i JUST WANT THE PLAY ON MY HAND AND THEN i’LL TELL YOU IF ITS TRUE OR NOT

  • David Nixon

    only 14 days to go ^0^/

    • Mr.Samurott

      shut ou!! omg im so excited o//////////////// the countdown 12,11,10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1 HOLY CRAP WE ARE HERE

    • zeldaoreonerd

      i thought it was 13.

      • David Nixon

        today is the sep 29th and the games come out on oct 12th which means we only got 14 days to go till the games come out ^0^/

      • Kyle

        if you get it at midnight then yes!

  • Atmosphere
    • Dicie

      *Quilladin XD

      • squidd

        people like you are annoying lol

        • Atmosphere

          me or him?

          • squidd

            him

          • Dicie

            How am I annoying? For making a joke? If anyone’s annoying here, you are.

          • Jordin

            Oh no…Dicie don’t stress over it!

          • Dicie

            I’ll try.

          • Jordin

            Just scroll up and forget this~

          • Dicie

            Got it.

          • Benedict

            You are being quite annoying though Dicie, I don’t mean to negative, but you’re spamming the comment section a lot and you seem to almost always be swearing or insulting someone or being crazily over-sensitive… and you appear to be the one that cannot take a joke- And ShinyXatu, I’m pretty sure Dicie is the one whos the troll.

          • Kyle

            Sir the troll right now is the one that has just spoken If Dicie’s a troll we are all trolls

          • Dicie

            You’re spamming with your stupid negativity, and my sensitivity is for me to deal with, not you. I never asked you for your opinion, and I don’t care about what you think. So what, I swear for a cause, when someone gets me mad, I don’t let anyone step on me. And you’re the troll here, with your stupid comments, probably downvoting every one of my comments and upvoting your own like a pussy just because my opinion is different than yours. If anyone’s a troll, you are, and you gotta keep your negativity to yourself.

          • Benedict

            I hardly think that one post qualifies as spamming, and ok its yours to deal with but perhaps seeing as this is a website that younger gamers visit you could refrain from swearing and could be less antagonistic to anyone who has a different opinion from yours too. Also just randomly assuming I’m downvoting your comments (which I can’t do as I’m only a guest user here) and calling me a pussy simply makes your argument appear invalid. If you need to resort to insults then clearly you realise that my argument carries more weight than yours. How about we just live and let live? We’re all fans of Pokémon here, no need to swear at people. 🙂

          • Dicie

            But I wasn’t talking to you or against you. This comment was a reply to Benedict’s, not you.

          • Benedict

            I know, and I’ve realised that my first comment to you was far more negative and aggressive than I intended, I’m sorry. I guess anticipation and hype and everything for X and Y is making us all a bit crazy lol. I think we can all agree that these games look amazing 😀

          • Dicie

            No problem, I understand. I guess we all are crazy in a way XD

            .
            .
            .
            .

            I take no offense, we are still good friends. 😀

          • Benedict

            Agreed, I know I’m certainly crazy at times lol, I’m glad 😀 and sorry again.

          • ShinyXatu

            Dicie, it’s a TROLL! Stop taking it so SERIOUSLY!

          • squidd

            i dont know whats going on i was just talking about how correcting someones type can be annoying i didnt mean to start anything

        • Dicie

          (unamused)
          And people like you who can’t take a fucking joke get on my nerves REAL fast. I may seem nice and sweet, but TRY me.

          • zeldaoreonerd

            yes lets see where this goes… more rage!!! lol

          • MasterMime

            I just find it amusing that Dicie complains about people who can’t take jokes, yet is the most sensitive person online I’ve ever come across. Chill out, buddy, relax! 😀

          • Dicie

            Ah, I love people like you! 😀 <3

        • ShinyXatu

          F*ck you buddy, Dicie is having emotional stress.

        • FyrenXSalamence

          Just chill! We all have problems in our life! Don’t argue or swear at others! Who knows maybe someone is on the edge of committing suicide? So just ignore rude comments.

          • Dicie

            So true. I actually felt like that yesterday and partially today.

          • FyrenXSalamence

            I know how you feel. But you were given a life to live because you can make it. At times you may feel weak, but those who are sometimes the weakest, are sometimes the strongest.

          • Dicie

            Your words touched my heart. After all, “What Doesn’t Kill You Makes You Stronger.”

    • Skiddo

      oh my gosh that’s funny. Pikachu’s even smiling 🙂

      • BulbaSword

        Isn’t that being played backwards and Ash is catching Pikachu?

        • zuhzoo

          Yep but still hilarious hahaa!

    • FyrenXSalamence

      OK everybody. Please let us try to be mature and not fight. We all came here for our love of Pokemon not to argue. Now let’s talk about our similarities and understand our differences. Please.

  • FyrenXSalamence

    Poor Lickylicky had it’s tongue stolen 🙁

  • Fen

    I hope the last image at least is fake. I mean, come on, that’s the fugliest thing I have ever seen! It’ s like two potato faced french-fry anenomes emerging out a pasty.

    The other two, the Hawk and Froakster evolution are actually pretty interesting though.

    • Mitchell McKelvey

      Wait a minute, Potato chip Pokemon! Remember that rumor about the potato chips and sushi Pokemon from Dookieshed?!

      • Daedardus

        Maybe it was a combined potato chip and sushi Pokémon?

        • Fen

          They will be like combined food orders, any food pokemon can cross evolve. :p

        • ShinyXatu

          I thought Dookieshed deleted that video of the rumors?

          • Mitchell McKelvey

            I think it’s still up…

          • ShinyXatu

            I looked at his channel yesterday and I could not find the video…maybe I am just an idiot XD

      • Fen

        Yeah I know! I thought of that, but it just can’t be true! 🙁
        Potato chip evolves into french fry demon squid.

  • Dialasong

    no but seriously, I’m not sure why people hate this design so much, it looks cool as heck to me. (although to draw it, I had to look at the picture a lot closer and now I seriously suspect that this is a fake, since it seems to have more feathers on one wing than the other)

    • Deoxys911

      Nice fanart. Looks like Pokémon meets Wind Waker to me.

    • the first LQ image of it I saw I hated it.

      then I saw the MQ image of it in-game and I loooooooved it.

      Hawlucha (portmanteau of Hawk and Lucha Libre), it has the coloring/style of a mexican wrestler. I NEED IT FOR MY TEAM. IF THIS POKE DOESNT TURN OUT TO BE TRUE I WILL RETURN MY X GAME

  • ShinyXatu

    Well, this has been an exciting morning! I wasn’t expecting for there to be so many rumors!

    • Alucard

      Too bad they turned out to be fake.
      Even bad reveals are better than this unquenchable thirst for new pokemon XD

      • Missingno. Master

        We don’t know they’re fake.

        • Alucard

          it seems more like everyone is in denial.
          Well for the moment i’ll believe they are fake and if they turn out to be true i’ll actualy be suprised again.

      • ShinyXatu

        We are still not sure…or we are the ones in denial.

    • Fen

      I think the next 13 days will be exactly the same. Except we might get massive substantiated leaks more and more as the final two weeks progress.

      • Jordin

        “And the plot thickens…”

  • n00bcake

    It is a shiny look at the first it have a blue star

    • Skiddo

      It’s supposed to be blue… Check other pre-release images…

  • Mr.Samurott

    I think we’ll get the other parto of french in pokemon Z xD who knows( refresh)

  • Pachirisu

    omg i just refreshed!! what is that pie pokemon with moleman hands sticking out!!?

    • Missingno. Master

      Some sort of barnacle Pokémon. I personally like it.

      • Pachirisu

        barnacle? fitting that i’m watching spongebob right now, lol. me though, idk… i need to see it better to make a judgement

    • zeldaoreonerd

      according to some of the stuff on pokebeachs forums, its name is binacle

  • shamose

    Apparently the leaker just confessed he faked all of this

  • Jordin

    Who else thinks we will get Mega Evolutions for Kalos Pokemon in the sequel/remakes? Sycamore found out the secret to Mega Evolution and made Mega stones! The bad guys are after him and we have to save Sycamore! 😀

    • Fen

      I would be fine only if they are in a sequel or remake. It’s nice that they won’t have mega’s for this version so we can experience them as we did every other generation, and leave some surprises later on.

      • TCMets

        Completely agree. Let us experience the charm these Pokemon have, before we go and improve them.

    • I think we will as well.

      Generation 5 introduced Dream World Abilities and none of the Gen 5 Pokemon got Dream World Abilities until Gen 5.5. (B2W2).

    • Pachirisu

      maybe in pokemon “z”, hopefully thats true though

  • shamose
    • Missingno. Master

      Someone also confessed to faking the Generation V starter final evolutions that Serebii had posted. The ones that turned out to be real. We can’t take confessions of fakery at face value.

      • shamose

        Yea hopefully he realized he might get in trouble and has pretended he faked them to get out of trouble. He deleted all the images he posted as well so that adds to that theory

      • Alucard

        But this is the guy that posted the Hawlucha screens in the first place.

      • Mitchell McKelvey

        Don’t ruin it. xD

    • Sable

      He admitted he photoshopped by saying all he did was modify some colors of an existing fake bird leak.

    • Armyofoneix

      i think he is just saying that

  • MaysJedi

    Quilladin at lv 33….OoO
    Will he show us dah evo?!??!

    • natethepipkin

      i dont think he will show us anything i think we hav all been played

      • Mitchell McKelvey

        I hope so. Cause something about a Fighting/Flying type was WAY TOO GOOD to be true, IMO.

    • Mr.Samurott

      the game has broken when quilladin evolved into his final evolution

  • Mr.Samurott

    -13 thanks Dialga( refresh it)

    • zeldaoreonerd

      i knew it was thirteen days

    • Skiddo

      Oh my gosh I will have the game in my hands in less than two weeks!! 😀

    • BulbaSword

      I love how it’s an epic stance and you can see the anticipation in everyone’s eyes…

      And then Vivillon starts giggling.

  • Ultron

    That literally looks like a pie with worms sticking out of it. WTF. I pray these are fake. Please be some horrible dream and that I wake up from it soon

    • Missingno. Master

      Or, you know, like barnacles on a rock?

      • Ultron

        No those do not look like barnacles. It looks like 2 worms with poop on their face sticking out of a little pie.

        • Mitchell McKelvey

          Another reason not to believe the image. This guy obviously wants to pull some strings! And he is succeeding.

    • Fen

      They are baked potatoe french fry worms coming out of a pasty pie.
      Mmm, I am so hungry now.

      • Mitchell McKelvey

        Looks like some Pokemon threw it up. Lol.

        • Fen

          Or threw it up, along with it’s worm-like intestines.

          • ShinyXatu

            Great mental images, Fen.

          • Fen

            Okay, this is a maggot-filled pie with a puss-like gravy filling. Some of the maggots grew larger after feeding upon the other maggots excrement and began to protrude out of the maggot-pie. The other maggots, in jealous, layed eggs in these larger maggots heads, and then as these two protruded to where they currently are new baby maggots feeding on their brains began to grow. There, no vomit or intestines!

          • Ultron

            mmmm tasty.

      • Jordin

        So are “Genwunners!” If this is real I can see them complaining now…

        • Pachirisu

          they complain about everything without giving it a chance, they’re the 12 year old COD players of the pokemon fandom

        • Ultron

          Yeah this would probably be at the top of why the later generations suck list

        • Fen

          Genwunners and non-genwunners alike should complain if that crap is real! haha

      • Ultron

        Eww hahaha but I can see what you mean

      • FOOD TYPE CONFIRMED.

        Vanillite, Cherrim, Exeggcute will all be retconned Food type.

        • Ultron

          Hahaha I think I would become a genwunthroughfiver if that were real

    • Daedardus

      It’s some sort of sea anome, let me find a good pic

    • djja123

      I know it for a fact they are fake, these people just want attention. After they get all of the attention they were going after, they admit it as fake. (which he has) http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/thread-rumors-speculation-and-potential-spoilers?pid=2532702#pid2532702 (Shamos already posted this link)

      • Missingno. Master

        We can’t take confessions of fakery at face value anymore. The Unova starters proved that.

        • djja123

          Except this is way less likely. Someone should email these pics to Masuda, and have him decide.

          • Deoxys911

            Right, I’ll get right on that, Masuda and I are tight ever since we became penpals.

          • Email to Nintendo of America.

          • ShinyXatu

            Hell, I’ll text Reggie Fils-Aime.

          • Jordin

            I hope your body is Reggie for some suing!

          • djja123

            Does Reggie even own a cell phone?

          • ShinyXatu

            He only uses Wii U Chat XD

          • Ill Instagram Satoshi Tajari!

          • ShinyXatu

            Have you gone out to the movies with him recently?

  • n00bcake

    Yes because if you think about it it cool look away from it past line evolution

  • Sable

    Honestly, if all this is fake, which there is a good chance of, that’s fine. And I know why people release fake stuff too. But, I just don’t get why the guy would take down everything, and more importantly, why doesn’t he tell us how he did it? Someone did that for the Mink, right? I mean, show us how they photoshopped the Overworld Screenshot for image, how they made all the details.

    • BulbaSword

      I don’t get why there are so many “leaks” that reveal nothing because of their poor quality. If you have the game physically in your hands, what is stopping you from going to the status menu and taking a few pictures until you get a nice clear one. All these small pictures and odd angles just cry fake and that someone is using the excuse of a bad picture to hide their failed attempt at a good leak.

    • Airederu

      The mink was proven fake. Someone on deviantArt created it.

  • jizanthapus

    One of these leaks are fake, because I am certain that Froakie will evolve into a water-fighting type Pokemon. That being said, I have yet to see a fighting type Pokemon with the ability to learn psychic type moves such as extrasensory.

    • ShinyXatu

      Do you have some kind of authority to go with this claim?

    • DuskSharkEX

      Meditite and Medicham say hi.

      • Fen

        no it doesn’t

      • djja123

        They are fighting AND psychic type

        • Fen

          And neither of them can learn extrasensory. No fighting type pokemon, even including these psychic/fighting types can learn extrasensory.

          • djja123

            I can’t believe I forgot that!

    • Sable

      Well, no Fighting type can learn Extrasensory. But Fighting types are known to learn psychic moves. Poliwrath can learn Psychic, for instance.

      • BulbaSword

        But it is a Pokemon that seems to have its focus on hypnosis, a psychic technique. Greninja doesn’t seem to have the same claim.

        • Missingno. Master

          Extrasensory was initially the signature move of Nuzleaf. By no means is it exclusive to Psychic-types, or even Pokémon associated with psychic power.

      • I was doing research on the “Dart Frog” which seems Frogadier is based off of, and lots of articles on this frog having keen senses on detecting when predator’s are approaching it. They instantly know when to start storing up their poison as well. I think this is probably the inspiration on Frogadier being able to learn “Extra Sensory”.

        If anything, they should’ve made Frogadier evolve into a Water/Poison type but I guess that would have been too cliche.

    • MuhFugginMoose

      Lucario would like to speak with you.

      • BulbaSword

        Aura seems to be a psychic-like phenomenon, so it makes sense that he can learn it. Why would a frog ninja know it though?

        • MuhFugginMoose

          He learns Psychic, along with Poliwrath.
          The point is, Psychic isn’t a Psychic only move.

          • Deoxys911

            Irony.

          • BulbaSword

            But Poliwrath is a Pokemon based on the theme of hypnosis. Just like Lucario has Psychic moves because of his relation to Aura, Poliwrath gets free pass to Psychic moves because of his hypnosis theme. I’m not saying that Psychic is a Psychic type specific move, but most Pokemon have a reason for knowing moves or you’d see Samurott running Psychic too.

          • MuhFugginMoose

            Then what’s Budew and Stantlers reason?
            The logic you’re basing this claim on is very thin. . .

          • coocookachu

            pokemon logic

          • Missingno. Master

            Remember- in the Pokémon world, common sense is optional, and the laws of physics are more like guidelines.

          • BulbaSword

            Stantler is known for hypnosis too…

            Egg moves usually take the Pokemon out of its normal usage and give it odd moves from the parent. Budew inherits it from the king of Extrasensory too.

          • MuhFugginMoose

            Reshiram? Tornadus? Landorus?
            How about the legendary beasts?
            Are they known for Hypnosis too?

          • BulbaSword

            I’m not focusing on just hypnosis- I just used that for the sake of Poliwrath and Stantler. Legendaries are known having magical powers- do they really need an explanation for Psychic moves?

            I’m not saying Extrasensory can’t be an Egg Move, but if it’s his starter Pokemon, it just seems odd.

          • MuhFugginMoose

            So now you’re not focusing on Hypnosis. . ?
            Okay. . .
            Well, that was pointless.

          • BulbaSword

            Ha ha ha, what I’m saying was that each Pokemon has a reason for knowing certain moves. Poliwrath’s and Stantler’s were hypnosis, Lucario’s was Aura, Legendaries are mystical, and Egg Move Pokemon are just naturally unusual.

          • MuhFugginMoose

            Yea, cause logic is so clear when it comes to Pokemon learning moves. . .
            Says Ice punch Wooper. . .

          • Missingno. Master

            OH DON’T GET ME STARTED. Iron Tail Alakazam. Steel Wing Dodrio. Mega Kick Dusknoir. Mega Punch Torchic. These are all possible things!

          • BulbaSword

            Torchic can use Mega Punch? What?

          • Missingno. Master
          • BulbaSword

            Shaking my head… Well, funnily enough that’s probably the only way that Torchic Tosses them, by grabbing with its beak and shaking viciously.

          • BulbaSword

            lol, that one’s pretty odd, but it is a Move Tutor move and not a Lv Up one, so there’s that. Most Woopers don’t know how to throw a good punch.

          • Missingno. Master

            And if you still want to talk Fighting-types that learn Psychic moves, the legendary goats learn Zen Headbutt.

    • jizanthapus

      Well all i’m saying is that if Froakie’s final can learn psychic type moves why go for Fennekin since Fennekin’s final form will be a fire-psychic type.

  • Mr.Samurott

    for those people who love and want to see beach pokemons in X and Y!! look at this picture here( refresh it)

    • Jordin

      We saw a real beach in the Pokemon Smash gameplay xD

      • Mr.Samurott

        HAHAHAHA I know but here its a beautifull imagene

  • TheRece25

    Froakie Without Bubbles was the smoking gun… Seriously Don’t give me that “Confirmed” BS, sometimes when someone saying something is fake THEY MEAN IT!!! Plus a Large Post Game ALREADY CONFIRMED!!! *rolls eyes* I’m sorry but how gullible can you be…….

    • ShinyXatu

      Not dropping my belief until stated by another source.

    • Mitchell McKelvey

      You sir, deserve a medal or something. I just realized that Kalos would be of been super tiny if what the guy was saying was true…

      • zeldaoreonerd

        hmmm.

    • MuhFugginMoose

      The original PokeBeach Rumors had bits of Fake information in it. . . Must be fake!

    • zeldaoreonerd

      i totally agree and i dont think that the images are real now either

    • moving

      Thing is, jut because it loses foam means nothing. There are lots of Pokémon that seemingly have a theme going, then it just gets dropped. Similarly there are Pokémon that drop a theme and pick up a new one.

  • Hitsokieater

    OMX the Pokemon fan base has spontaneously combusted colossally

  • King Phoenix

    This should be a wake up to gamefreak tho like hey lets show three new ones and say if these are fake or not(ik high hopes)

  • Stefan

    Okay. I’ve come to the conclusion. I am no longer looking at anything on these games until the release date, because the amount of fake crap that is being thrown around helps no one. I’d rather just start the games up fresh.

    • Pachirisu

      thats what i said a week ago, but look where i’m at now!!! its futile to try, you’ll eventually be pulled back in just like me, then come release day you’ll cry because you know 90% of the game D,: happens every gen to me…

    • Alucard

      All I want to see are the starters final evos.
      I want to be sure there isn’t a weird one like in unova before i choose my starters.

    • Missingno. Master

      You’ll never make it. You’ll crack. They all do.

    • Daniel Rojas

      Worst part is, no Froakie evolution will replace the previous fake. I should really stop looking at things and see only the original.. 🙁

  • Dennis Lougharn

    someone commented on my post with fennekin’s rumored final evo that they couldn’t see it and that they wanted a link, ere’ ya go https://twitter.com/ThaChampRed/status/384172555273515008/photo/1

    • djja123

      It kind of looks fake

    • Alucard

      EWWWWWWWWW
      Ok now I really need to see the true final evos before I play because if this is true I’ll stay faaaaaar away from fennekin…..

    • Fen

      I think it is great, up until the red hair. There is just something not right about it.

    • Ultron

      I guess the black is supposed to be like a witches hat? Kinda random to add it in..but okay. Idk..I need to see a full body shot of it

  • Mitchell McKelvey

    I pray to my lord Arceus that this info with the pictures is fake. Because seriously, ONLY 70 Pokemon introduced? Barely any aftergame? My heart sank. I remember hearing another rumor that the Kalos aftergame would be the size of G/S Kanto. And then we have this rumor saying the only things to do are catch Mewtwo and the Z Legendary! I think this guy is seriously trying to piss people off with all of this and the french fry barnacle whatever the hell it is Pokemon proves it. He made people sorta happy with the Flying/Fighting type Pokemon bird. Now he’s backfiring on us.

    • ShinyXatu

      The pictures and the text are not necessarily tied to one “real or fake” decision.

    • Missingno. Master

      Wouldn’t be the first time someone used real pics to back up Tauros shit info.

      • Mitchell McKelvey

        True. I think the pictures are real, sadly.

        • Missingno. Master

          Sadly? Greninja is awesome! And that barnacle thing is pretty cool, too.

  • Skiddo

    The one thing that has me somewhat believing it is the picture of the new route. I want that to be real!!! 😀

    • ShinyXatu

      You have to be some kind of Photoshopping genius to pull something like that off.

    • Mitchell McKelvey

      That is likely real. I think that Italian chick posted that picture and that another person is just backing it up with fake bullshit. I really think the text and photos are unrelated.

    • Guest

      The stones are clearly from this area here. However, whilst I think it looks great, it has made me sad because it gives more credence to the other pictures released alongside it being true – and I really don’t want them to be real.

    • Stefan

      The stones are clearly from this area here. However, whilst I think it looks great, it has made me pretty sad though because it gives more credence to the other pictures released alongside it being true – and I really don’t want them to be real.

      EDIT: Sorry about posting the picture twice. My mistake.

  • Armyofoneix

    i quit

    • ShinyXatu

      I’m a banana.

      • Fen

        Wait?? You are?

        • ShinyXatu

          No.

          • Fen

            🙁

    • BulbaSword

      Good, because smoking is bad for you. If you need any help, there are several stop-smoking hotlines that I’m sure you could call for help.

      • Armyofoneix

        ha the day i smoke pigs will fly. but i really dont know what to believe anymore

        • BulbaSword

          Emboar should have been a Fire/Flying pig instead. The rage that would have happened right then would be beautiful.

          • Armyofoneix

            omg the image that popped in my head lmfaooo

          • ShinyXatu

            BUT that would have meant…no Fire/Fighting evolution!

          • BulbaSword

            2 Fire/Flyings and 2 Fire/Fightings… And Typhlosion

          • ShinyXatu

            And then the random Fire/Psychic fox strolls up XD

          • BulbaSword

            I think that Fennekin’s line was a blatant attempt at winning back fans that raged at the previous Fire starters.

    • Jordin

      http://imgur.com/Y7C16y7 Here you go 🙂

      • Armyofoneix

        why thanks agan

  • Jordin

    So we get that barnacle thing, but no Quilladin evo? If the barnacle is real, someone who lives in a pineapple under the sea is happy…

    • Missingno. Master

      Absorbent and yellow and porous is he!

  • The overworld/route picture is definitely the most convincing. The exact same area can be seen from the Kalos map.

    • Mitchell McKelvey

      That is probably unrelated to the rest of the images on here. I think someone is photoshopping images to go along with these and claiming it is theirs just to make them more credible with the info they post with the pictures. It really bugs the crap out of me that people are this mean!

      • Sable

        Then, the question is where did they get the Overworld image then?

      • Caitlin

        Hmm, well they were all consequently posted by the same person on 4chan and they also posted an unseen battle of Chespin evo vs Emogla

  • ShinyXatu

    If Hawlucha is real…AAAARIBA!

    • if he turns out to be real, I will nickname mine Aaariba

    • Pachirisu

      yo as a mexican, thats pretty racist, just like when ludicolo came out

      • ShinyXatu

        …sorry ’bout that. O_O

        • Pachirisu

          its okay i don’t mind, but others may

        • MuhFugginMoose

          Yea man, I’m beaner as hell, I take offense to that. . .

          (No I don’t o 3o)

          • ShinyXatu

            XD I thought so.

      • Stefan

        Dude, gtfo… -_-

      • Claus H. Luíz

        That is NOT racist. People tend to throw around that word way too damn easily. Racism is derived from hate.
        What Hawlucha and Ludicolo represent are stereotypes, and like all stereotypes they originate from truth. Calmate, mijo. It’s all good.

        • Dialasong

          Uh, stereotypes can definitely be racist. They aren’t always, but they definitely can be.

          • Claus H. Luíz

            Racism – the belief that all members of
            each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races. Prejudice and discrimination are synonyms.

            Stereotypes can be used in a racist manner, but they themselves are not racist. Differentiate between them.

          • Dialasong

            Alright, I think I agree with this, this is about what I intended to say but worded much better, thank you.

          • Claus H. Luíz

            It’s all goody-goody.
            I just wish people could really see the difference and stop being so sensitive about it. Not every is hateful.
            L♥ve & Pe☮ce!

    • Fen

      I would name mine NACHOOO!!!

      • ShinyXatu

        Or LIIIIBRE!

    • Daniel Rojas

      Arriba* 😛

  • Mitchell McKelvey

    Please let the 70 Pokemon and barely any aftergame be FAKE! If it isn’t, I may seriously boycott Pokemon X and Y. The games had so much potential and Game Freak just decided to waste it with this if it’s real.

    • IntimidatingWurmple

      I thought GameFreak said there is a lot of aftergame

      • Mitchell McKelvey

        Did they?

        • Milotic4Ever

          Yeah, so it doesn’t matter if you do the extra features or not in game, there is guaranteed hours and hours of gameplay, even post game.

          • Mitchell McKelvey

            Kalos is huge regardless.

    • Missingno. Master

      The text and the pics were never related.

      • Claus H. Luíz

        Thank you!
        I wish PJ would just put this up there so people can know.
        Pics and text are not related!

        • Mitchell McKelvey

          They’re not related? *Wipes tears off of face*

    • Pachirisu

      just stay calm, has any gen introduced any less than 100?

      • Mitchell McKelvey

        Johto introduced 100. Hoenn introduced 135. Sinnoh introduced 107, and Unova introduced the total of 156 bring our current grand total up to 649.

        • Fen

          Kalos = 105-125 new pokemon

    • ShinyXatu

      Here, you can borrow my Rampardos to knock their doors down.

  • MacSkiddo

    so this picture can kinda hint we will see chespin final form soon

    • Jordin

      That was from a pretty long time ago though :

      • MacSkiddo

        but still we can see it

  • Atmosphere
    • belmad

      I can relate it to the subject.

  • Milotic4Ever

    I call bullshmuck on the info. The pics look real though, and I’m not surprised if they are.

    • ShinyXatu

      Is Bullschmuck the evolution of Bouffalant?

  • natethepipkin

    1234 comments cool

    • hallo

      By me it is 1213

      • natethepipkin

        no as cool 🙁

  • Pokemon xy monster

    1235 comments now

    • ShinyXatu

      Thanks for sharing…

    • natethepipkin

      nice

    • BulbaSword

      Killing it.

    • Bombeiro

      How ’bout 1249?

  • Pokemon xy monster

    So that’s how it’s gonna be

  • Pokemon xy monster

    Never mind

    • ShinyXatu

      HAVE A NICE DAY

      • Fen

        HAVE A NICE DAE!

        • Stefan

          What you did there… I see it 😉

        • ShinyXatu

          That comment made bad things happen 🙁

          • Fen

            Bad Shmad :p

  • Pokemon xy monster

    I hope these are not real

    • Stefan

      Dude… Stop flooding the posts with irrelevant shit.

  • Pokemon xy monster

    What starter are you guys picking

    • Skiddo

      Fennekin

      • Atmosphere

        froakie

    • ShinyXatu

      …Froaks.

    • Stefan

      Probably the Prawn Cocktail.

      • ShinyXatu

        HAHAHA

    • Missingno. Master

      Chespin.

    • Morrison

      Chespin! =P

    • Dicie

      If I get both, then maybe Fennekin and Froakie, Chespin only if it has a nice final. 😀

    • Milotic4Ever

      Fennekin in X, Froakie/Chespin in Y (I’m at crossroads.)

    • Fen

      First three run throughs:
      1. Fennekin
      2. Chespin
      3. Froakie.

      They all deserve a chance.

  • Stefan

    Dae… Where are you, my ovaries are exploding. This guy forgot how to internet.

    • ShinyXatu

      I won’t help you clean that up.

    • zeldaoreonerd

      umm.. what?

    • Deoxys911

      That typically happens when Dae is around.

    • Skiddo

      That’s fascinating. Thanks for sharing.

  • Dicie

    What happened?

    • Mitchell McKelvey

      Wat?

    • Deoxys911

      In the butt?

      • Atmosphere

        WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Atmosphere

        IN A HUT

      • Dicie

        XD

  • ShinyXatu

    Please, stop commenting so much. Normally it’s not noticeable, but you need to stop.

    • Dicie

      I agree. These comments aren’t just irrelevant, but they are worthless and taking up space (not to be rude).

      • ShinyXatu

        Especially when he comments the same thing multiple times.

        • Dicie

          Yeah. Dae would get a workout with his BanHammer if he was here right now.

          • ShinyXatu

            Why can’t we just have a 1-800-CALL-DAE?

          • belmad

            What you guys are doing is not helping I think.

          • ShinyXatu

            Sorry boss, just having a bit of fun.

          • Randomtester

            nowadays pokejungle has a lot of comments

          • ShinyXatu

            We get new members all the time, as of late.

          • belmad

            It’s not primarly because of new members commenting though.

    • Fen

      To clarify, NEW posts!

  • Stefan

    Oh Dear God please stop…

  • ShinyXatu

    -_- All hope for humanity is lost.

    • Deoxys911

      You should have seen it coming.

      • ShinyXatu

        I saw it coming before I was even born.

        • Stefan

          The perks of being the almighty Xatu I guess.

          • ShinyXatu

            Very true.

  • zeldaoreonerd

    guys lets just ignore him. the gym leaders will deal with him probably

  • MacSkiddo

    ok guys what i think of the Barnacle pokemon

    • Fen

      An abomination.

    • Milotic4Ever

      “Why?” UNLESS it has good ash defenses…

    • Pachirisu

      what do you think?

    • Skiddo

      Makes me think of Clampearl :p

      • Fen

        That is rude. You hurt Clampearl feelings. :p

        • Skiddo

          I love Clampearl, it just reminds me of it.. I actually kind of like the barnacle thing…

    • ShinyXatu

      I think of puke. It’s just not good.

  • Claus H. Luíz

    Someone posted this on 4chan a lil’ while ago because of all the random leaks
    and I found it absolutely hilarious.

    “Fuck these threads and fuck this board, why do I come here?”

    • Stefan

      I saw this too! Hahahahahahahaha.

  • MacSkiddo

    I messed up everyone

    • ShinyXatu

      Do you need help cleaning up?

      • MacSkiddo

        yes i made a gif but it didnt go through

        so here http://makeagif.com/ROQ7Dd

        • ShinyXatu

          Oh okay XD that’s a good one.

          • MacSkiddo

            do u know how to add gifs

          • ShinyXatu

            No, I’ve only done images, which you can do on the lower left hand corner.

          • MacSkiddo

            Tested failed (EDIT)

          • ShinyXatu

            It’s a link, I don’t know if that’s your intention.

          • MacSkiddo

            now it worked lol

          • ShinyXatu

            Yep, good job! 😀

          • MacSkiddo

            so i just copy the image url

  • TCMets

    Seeing that Greninja knows Aerial Ace, it got me thinking how Chespin is confirmed to know this move as well. Then I thought how hilarious it is that Quilladin will know this move. Remember, Chespin has been reported to be a really slow Pokemon, and judging by Quilladin’s appearance…it doesn’t look any faster. Yet, this thing can learn Aerial Ace, which is “an extremely speedy and unavoidable attack.” xD

    • Deoxys911

      You’re right; it’s nuts!

    • BulbaSword

      Aerial Ace is based off a Japanese sword technique, so in reality, it’s a fast slicing attack, not a motion like Quick Attack.

    • Sable

      Well, to be fair, a lot of Pokemon can learn Aerial Ace. TYRANITAR can learn Aerial Ace, and it’s not the picture of speed.

      • TCMets

        Lol, yeah, you’re right. Just something that popped into my head 🙂

        • Sable

          Let’s just put this in perspective. SLOWBRO. CAN LEARN AERIAL ACE.

          I rest my case.

          • TCMets

            LOL

      • BulbaSword

        Bisharp, a slow Steel Type, can too, but that’s because of it being a sword technique.

  • IntimidatingWurmple

    I’m surprised the leaker hasn’t leaked anything about the rivals

    • Armyofoneix

      and i hope they keep it that way

      • Morrison

        Yeah, or they should release some fake info. I really liked the rumor back then of Bel/Bianca being the Champion of Unova before Gen V-1 came out. =P

  • Mitchell McKelvey

    Why do I even bother with information that is likely used to toy with our emotions? Lol. This almost made me cry with information that is just unimaginable and just completely ridiculous if this information was released in May or something. Lol. I HOPE TO ARCEUS that we do not have just 70 Pokemon and a HUGE aftergame. 🙁

  • Dennis Lougharn

    It’d be hilarious if the ugly pie pokemon that was leaked is actually some really deep part of Japanese folklore

  • SunnyChespin

    I hope that froakie evo is fake, the whole scarf made out of its tongue thing is just nasty. Plus neither Froakie of Frogadier had any emphasis on their tongues being important, so it seems kinda silly that it would be a big deal now.

    • ShinyXatu

      Concepts can change, I hope you know that.

  • Randomtester

    the leaker said he was a fake on pokebeach i posted this on pokebeach but i heard from 4chan that bomboad quillance and valaixen were the final evos of the starters

    • ShinyXatu

      Bomboad? Is that supposed to be a play on bombard?

      • Sable

        And it’s probably *probably fake* going off of the Grenadier possible being the origin of Forgadier’s name. … Imagine, Froakie learns Explosion!

    • Mitchell McKelvey

      Never trust 4chan at times like these.

    • Sable

      For sake of discussion… Valaixen. Where does the Vala come from?

  • Randomtester

    i searched valai igot something bout india

  • Atmosphere

    I on the hyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyype train!!! I I cant wait another 13 days http://31.media.tumblr.com/0e334451d41da1524c9420bd28be5be7/tumblr_mibhyyaLyq1rown8vo1_500.gif

  • natethepipkin

    OK ENOUGH ENOUGH I STARTED ON THIS THING WHEN THERE WAS 50 COMMENTS AND NOW THERE IS 1300+
    JUST SHOW ME SOME REAL NEWS!!!!!!!!

    • Missingno. Master

      I’ll give you the short version- general consensus is that the pics are real and the info is fake.

      • natethepipkin

        thanks bro

  • natethepipkin

    AHHHHHHHHHH

    • ShinyXatu

      Oooooooohhh…why is this helping?

  • shamose

    So based on this, its probably safe to say that Froakie3 is (unfortunately) fake

    http://images.4chan.org/vp/src/1380473256375.png

    • Missingno. Master

      Already disproven. Read through the comments to find exactly where. The Froakie screenshot was an early screenshot and the A’s changed since then.

    • IntimidatingWurmple

      Is this the 100% truth

    • natethepipkin

      good call

      • Missingno. Master

        It would be, except a Torchic distribution screenshot proved the As have changed since that early Froakie screenshot.

    • MuhFugginMoose
      • Skiddo

        O: There’s hope 😀

        • MuhFugginMoose

          That there is. 🙂

    • Morrison

      Is it really that unlikely, that GameFreak polished some of the Sprites before the final version?
      That Froakie Screen is pretty old, too. =/

    • whitesox23

      Yes but after looking through it people having found out that the A’s have changed since then.

  • TotallytrustworthNOA

    No!!! You’re all wrong!!! Froakie’s final evo is ninjafroggy fennikin’s is tadafox and chezpin’s is fathog jk

    • ShinyXatu

      I totally believe you.

    • Dennis Lougharn

      this is fake cause fennekin’s final evo name doesn’t have the -ixen suffix

  • Scammel

    I don’t the thing people are calling a pie, is a pie. I think it’s supposed to be a Lileep-esque sea-tube-creature-thing.

  • whitesox23

    I feel like the pictures are real, but the other information is utter bullcrap.

  • Dude-e

    I forget to check pokejungle for a couple of hours and come back to see all hell breaking loose. Wow that’s quite some info to process. Here’s what I think:

    -70 new pokes only!!! Fake! The dex is divided into three parts, don’t think that’s possible with only 70.
    -Not much endgame? All interviews agreed that there is supposed to stuff to do after the game => Fake!
    -Froakie’s third evo “thing”… Not sure… I liked than fan made one more, though this does look kinda more “fight’ish”. No fight moves? Weird.
    Fly/Fight poke, interesting combo. If true, I think the stats would focus on speed and attack.

    • Missingno. Master

      Yeah, we’re thinking the pics are real and the text is Tauros shit. The two were never even connected in the first place, anyway.

    • whitesox23

      I’m guessing he does learn fighting moves, but since the dude has Hawchula, he just used Greninja as a Water type attacker.

  • ShinyXatu

    I have a question: have we seen the move Extrasensory in another Pokemon’s move page image, because if not, there is no way the Greninja is fake.

    • Skiddo

      Like for a new one? I don’t think so

    • Missingno. Master

      The only other move page images we’ve seen were Chespin, Fennekin, Froakie, and Torchic so far.

      • ShinyXatu

        There is no way someone could make such a Psychic icon from scratch.

        • Dennis Lougharn

          weren’t multiple type icons shown during the presentation of pokemon bank?

          • ShinyXatu

            That’s what I am wondering: if there is no identical Psychic (or Fighting, for that matter) icon available right now, this picture must be legit.

    • Mitchell McKelvey

      I think Meowstic was seen using Extrasensory in a battle!

      • Missingno. Master

        Yeah, but we don’t see its move page.

        • Mitchell McKelvey

          There was text for the word I believe. Someone could of ripped it from that.

    • Dennis Lougharn

      hmm..come to think of it, no

  • Archeops127

    Even if it fake, Froakie’s final evolution seems natural, and reminds me heavily of Sceptile. 😀

  • Llehv4123

    Did anyone else notice the difference in sizes of the feathers and the number of feathers on each wing from the flying/fighting pokemon?

    • Skiddo

      No.. maybe it’s a gender difference thing?

    • Sable

      That’s been discussed, it was decided that the number of the feathers was easily explained by that the one screenshot from the side was blocking the view of the other feathers with it’s body.

  • Randomtester

    have a rumor from 4chan AGAIN there is a pokemon called sourite some sort of stone mouse

    • natethepipkin

      stop looking at 4chan at times like these they r unreliable

  • comixbro615

    I really like Greninja and Hawlucho, although im feeling iffy on that weird pie thingy.

  • MacSkiddo

    Froakie the biggest controversy in Pokemon history

    • ShinyXatu

      *looks at Oorotto again*

      • Randomtester

        wynaut wynaut he is creepy

        • MacSkiddo

          wynaut has nothing hes just regular

        • ShinyXatu

          It’s missing the controversy.

    • Randomtester

      nope jynx

      • MacSkiddo

        jynx is long dead nobody cares anymore

        • Randomtester

          in africa where i live people care

          • natethepipkin

            u live in africa thats cool

          • natethepipkin

            so im guessing you like the SAFARI zone? :))

          • Randomtester

            good one

          • Randomtester

            ghana to be precise i get pokemon games for christmas when people visit

          • MacSkiddo

            yea but nobody cares anymore since shes purple

          • Randomtester

            still ya know

          • MacSkiddo

            but the thing jynx was based on was a little Indian boy

          • Randomtester

            i kno rite

    • MacSkiddo

      froakie also looks like a certain american https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6957684480/hB055B283/

  • Atmosphere

    wow all hell is breaking lose, if these are fake I bet the leaker would look like this

    http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3n26boKOp1r7beslo1_500.gif

    • Skiddo

      No, I think that’s us :p

      • Atmosphere

        look at woopers smile and tell me that’s not evil

        • Skiddo

          oh ok 🙂

      • MasterMime

        I think he means the leakers face would be wooper’s face

    • TCMets

      Whooper…always smiling. No arms, yet always happy. Disaster? Still happy.

  • MasterMime

    This is completely unrelated, sorry, but I’m curious to what the average age on THIS site is…Just a random curiosity

    • Archeops127

      About 17-ish? It really shouldn’t matter, though. I’m 13 for Arceus sake~

      • MasterMime

        It doesn’t matter. I was just curious. I get the feeling this site is generally younger crowd than other Pokemon sites, but it’s just my theory

      • Jordin

        I believe Dae said PG-13 so we are good! 😀

        • Agustinlobos123

          So I’m the youngest!

    • natethepipkin

      im 15

    • Jordin

      PG-13

      • Daedardus

        That’s the guideline, not the average age 😉

        • Randomtester

          yay dae is back or maybe he never left

          • ShinyXatu

            He’s a master spy.

          • Daedardus

            Latter

        • Jordin

          Oooh so what is the average age?

          • Randomtester

            i am 12

    • ShinyXatu

      37.5 years of age, according to the 2010 consensus.

    • Missingno. Master

      23

    • Skiddo

      5,000,000 and a half 😉

    • Caitlin

      I’m 17

    • TCMets

      I don’t have an age.

    • Daedardus

      Staff: 20+
      Commenters: 14 (?)

      • ShinyXatu

        I am 14…I’ll go sit in the corner now.

      • MasterMime

        Thanks, Dae. That’s the feeling I’ve been getting from the site. I just was curious to see if my hunch had any basis. Thanks

    • BulbaSword

      I’m 19

    • Agustinlobos123

      12 turning 13 in November 🙂

    • Claus H. Luíz

      24.
      …Don’t you judge me!

      • Archeops127

        Why the heck would we judge?!?!

      • MasterMime

        25 here…I’d have no room to judge lol ;P

        • IntimidatingWurmple

          Love your avatar!!! Who made it?

          • Archeops127

            Who do you think?

          • MasterMime

            Jordin, who else? 😀

          • IntimidatingWurmple

            Jordin is absolutely amazing at art! He gets a 5 stars from me.

          • Skiddo

            10/5 from me 🙂

          • IntimidatingWurmple

            I should of put that 😀

      • zuhzoo

        21 here 🙂

    • EliteTrainerXeos

      I’m 17.

  • Mr.Samurott

    its me or the name of the picture with quilladin is different? .-. it doesnt says: qullandin

    • Missingno. Master

      It’s been nicknamed.

    • MasterMime

      Nickname. Dr.something apparently relevant joke

    • Sable

      It’s a nickname, it says Mr. Mundo or something like that.

      • Mr.Samurott

        ohhh thanks!! and what happend if Hawlucha is a nickname?

        • Sable

          Difference there is we saw it in the status area, and we probably would have seen if it had a nickname there or not with it’s regular name, both are shown on the same screen generally speaking in the menu.

  • Jordin

    When I first saw the Froakie final I thought it was robo dog, lol.

    • ShinyXatu

      Goddard, is that you? XD

  • MacSkiddo

    the pie looking pokemon is telling us what grows on it when u leave pie out for a long time

  • Claus H. Luíz

    Sooo… Do you like Pokémon cries? Not boo-hoo cry, but squeek-roar cry?
    Then watch this video! Pokémon X & Y footage that wasn’t on the official site!
    You’re welcome and I love you, too. ;D
    Also, use headphones for a better experience.

  • I’m gonna start a rumor of my own and hope it comes into fruition lol.

    Luvdisc is a Water/Fairy type now and learns “Draining Kiss”.

    • Milotic4Ever

      Actually sounds plausible.

    • Mr.Samurott

      I want to know why Alomomola is not the evolution of luvdisc

  • Milotic4Ever

    Is this Flying/Fighting type based on like a Condor and some other bird? We need a Condor Pokemon.

    • ShinyXatu

      Should have been called Condolibre.

      • Randomtester

        or look like this

      • Dennis Lougharn

        that is a pretty cool and plausible name

        • ShinyXatu

          Assuming that it is based off of Mexico.

  • YoshEE

    Greninja? Didn’t see that coming

  • Mitchell McKelvey

    Anyone can start rumors. Anyone can have information they claim to be real or fake and are unable to be disproven until otherwise. The internet is truly a cruel place. I think we just need to wait and see for ourselves what the games have in store. 😀

    • Jordin

      Furfrou changes type based on the groom and Staraptor will get a Mega Evolution. There you go now discuss!

      • Archeops127

        Staraptor deserves one!

        • Sable

          and type change to Fighting/Flying while in Mega Form.

      • Randomtester

        mega banhammer 2x effective against trolls

      • Prince Azulon

        Staraptor deserves one. Best regional bird in history.

      • Mitchell McKelvey

        Oh, Jordin, you make me laugh. xD

      • MasterMime

        Not only will MegaEvolution be introduced but we’ll also get DNAEvolution (from Kyurem’s Splicers), where you can DNA mix and match Pokemon…Mix Latias and Latios and you get Laties!!

      • BulbaSword

        Don’t forget that the Champion is Tierno and when he wins he kills you and dances over your corpse.

      • Milotic4Ever

        I actually speculated the Furfrou bit for a while, except it gains and changes it secondary type.

      • Jordin

        Wait wait! My rumors are fake! I photo shopped them! I confess! Now discuss some more!

  • Prince Azulon

    Greninja looks awesome. I just hope the 70 part isn’t true.

    • Missingno. Master

      The text and the pics were never connected. We’re thinking the pics are real and the text is BS.

      • Archeops127

        Text better be BS.

    • Stefan

      I hope the official artwork of Greninja (if it is real) makes it look better than that bad screenshot.

  • natethepipkin

    i skipped work today to read all these comments. Hope it was worth it

    • ShinyXatu

      You’re not a penny richer, that’s all I have to say.

    • Sable

      It would make for a nice case study of the mental collapse of a pocket of humanity.

    • Randy

      wow you are stupiddd

      • Archeops127

        Okay, rude. Reading these comments is really fun. And you spelled stupid wrong. -.-

      • ShinyXatu

        Randy Jackson, is that you?

  • notapokemonblog

    In Emolga battle, I read ‘PS’. Maybe an Italian screenshot?

    • Blueyestarling

      PS is for HP, in italian version of Pokémon games.

  • similarity

    If Hawlucha is real, then the Flying-type has officially been paired with every other type… except Fairy, I guess?

    • natethepipkin

      flying ghost?

      • Dominic

        drifblim

        • natethepipkin

          oh

      • Sable

        Drifloon and Drifblim.

      • MasterMime

        Drifloon/Drifblm

    • MasterMime

      I’d be VERY surprised if there isn’t a Fairy/Flying Pokemon

      • Skiddo

        umm…. Spritzee…

        • Skiddo

          Nevermind… it’s not..

      • Archeops127

        Spritzee should evolve into one.

      • Dominic

        Yes… I’ m predicting togekiss

    • shamose

      Is the flamingo thing not fairy/flying? (why can I never remember that dudes name? its so awesome)

      • similarity

        Spritzee. And no, surprisingly, it’s not part Flying-type, even though it has wings and is clearly floating

        • Atmosphere

          proberly when it evovles

  • Guest

    i cant get enough of this yu gi oh news. is thge new digimon a mega pokemon beyblade naruto air bender?

    • ShinyXatu

      Uh…where have you been?

    • Deoxys911

      Obviously.

    • Guest

      We have top Cryptologists working righting right now to figure out what you just said.

  • Atmosphere
  • CharizardKing

    Spritzee’s evo is probably going to be fairy/flying

    • natethepipkin

      or fairy fairy

      • CharizardKing

        yeah. that too…

  • natethepipkin

    Helioptile Evolution speculation:

    Helioptile evolves into magikarp than in gyardos

    • ShinyXatu

      Nope, Helioptile evolves into Mawile and then Mega Mawile.

      • natethepipkin

        that also…

  • Mitchell McKelvey

    Anyone can make up rumors, it’s easy.

    Lol. In fact, here’s some rumors I made up:

    “Spritzee has an evolution called spriflamino. its type is fairy/flying, and it evolves at level 20. There’s a new battle frontier that opens up in the east of kalos when you complete the game. the elite four specialize in: fire, ground, dragon, and ice.”

    • Skiddo

      Never heard any of those…

    • similarity

      that’s why photographs that seem genuine are more reliable than text that seems genuine. as you’ve demonstrated, anyone can take on the IAMTHELEAKER role of making stuff up and polishing their words

    • ShinyXatu

      The thing is, you don’t have blurry images to back it up.

    • Sable

      Yes, anyone can make up rumors. I don’t see you posting extremely believable screenshots to go along with that, and then poorly explain how your just photoshopped them.

    • Dennis Lougharn

      can we make a game out of this and see who makes the most believable rumor?

    • comixbro615

      Let me try that:

      There is a new fire/ground mole pokemon with flames coming out of its nose and tail that evolves into a larger mole with beady red eyes with larger claws with two flames coming out of its back. There is also a new Pokemon with long sharp blade like arms with leaves covering its eyes and legs. The sixth gym is ice and the gym leader is female with a poofy white dress and an icicle necklace.

      What do you think of my fake rumors :D?

      • similarity

        They’re just as believable as the rumors about Trusk and whatnot. I think it should be made clear just how easy it is for anyone to randomly make up things and pass them off as possible truths

  • natethepipkin

    heres a rumour:

    Mega groudon is ground/water and learns the new move geyser which is a dual typed fire/water attack

    • Archeops127

      Enough with these rumors, people!

    • ShinyXatu

      Not even a good rumor, at that XD

      • natethepipkin

        sorry
        i suk at life

        • ShinyXatu

          LIFE OVER. Continue?
          9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2…

    • similarity

      Dual-typed attacks don’t seem to work in the same way people thought they did when they were first rumored about. It seems that rather than certain attacks having two types, they just do different damage to certain other types. So I’d have to discredit this rumor here…

  • natethepipkin

    guys i just checked serebii and the 6 gen starters were announced:
    Chespin
    Froakie
    Fennekin

    • Atmosphere

      *slowpoke*

      • natethepipkin

        yeah i am slow until a shelder bites my ass then watch out BRO

    • ShinyXatu

      OMG GEN 6 I CAN’T WAIT UNTIL OCTOBER!

    • Growlithe

      OMG! They just revealed their 2nd Evolutions, Quiladdin, Braixen, and Frogadier! OMG!

      • Archeops127

        Did you guys hear? Ninfia is awesome!

        • similarity

          do you think it’s Normal-type? it must be, right?

        • Skiddo

          I heard it’s a Flying-type

        • ShinyXatu

          I think it’ll be Flying type.

          • Archeops127

            There are people saying it’s a”Fairy type” What’s a Fairy type? Soooo gay!

          • similarity

            Fairy? No, if they’re doing a new type, it’ll be Light-type for sure

          • natethepipkin

            light and sound

      • natethepipkin

        really?

    • IntimidatingWurmple

      And the last Ponyta finishes the race.

    • Skiddo

      oh my gosh really no way

  • similarity

    Anyone taken a good look at the nameless new Pokemon? It’s some kind of tubeworm… a Water-type, maybe? Water/Rock?

    • natethepipkin

      lilleep spinoff

      • similarity

        It almost looks like something you’d find on the ocean floor. Hint hint.

        • IntimidatingWurmple

          HM dive returns HOENN REMAKE CONFIRMED

    • EarthenWarrior

      Tubeworm?
      I thought it was demonic muffin pie with evil brownies with long necks wearing rubber gloves on its head

      • similarity

        that’s what a tubeworm is, really

        • EarthenWarrior

          well now I look more clearly…Fake?

          • similarity

            I don’t think it’s fake, it’s just an unusual design inspired by a rather ugly animal

  • Randomtester

    gone for 5 minutes 34 comments

  • Mitchell McKelvey

    Guys! Pokebeach posted the new leaked Pokemon! 😮

    • EarthenWarrior

      Thanks for the heads up!

    • Jordin

      A little late to the party XD

      • Mitchell McKelvey

        I am. But he didn’t post the info about 70 Pokemon only and no aftergame. THANK GOD! I think we can establish that is fake.

        • Jordin

          No I meant Pokebeach is a little late xD

  • Growlithe

    Guys!!! They revealed a new type of pokemon the Fairy type, I wonder what its good against!

    • natethepipkin

      i think ninfia will be flying and female only

      • ShinyXatu

        Guys, please stop this.

        • Growlithe

          Coming from a huge troll I think not ^(talking about you)

          • ShinyXatu