We’ve covered various rumors which have mentioned Team Rocket returning under a new name, but we may have finally gotten official confirmation about its existence. A Japanese retail display shows what appear to be Team Rocket grunts in front of a rainbow background preparing to battle the protagonist.
Other screenshots seem to confirm that Team Rocket has set up a headquarters of sorts in Alola (or they could have taken over a certain location). We’ll bring you more as it comes! As always thanks PokéSirena for helping us keep news coming fast!
If we’re really getting a trailer in few hours-predictions?
Mine are:
Mimikyu Z-Move
Rainbow Rocket
New Alolans
One new UB
Necrozma Star Form
Maybe a Z-move for Necrozma Star Form
We will probably get it in 5 minutes lol
Slow down there. We still have like 24 days until these games drop. I would expect them to reveal this info spread over two trailers and a CoroCoro issue. At most I would expect for them to just do a slight review of what was revealed in the interviews last week, Mimikyu’s Z-move because that had been leaked for over a week, and Rainbow Rocket.
Okay okay but how cool would it be if we fought every evil team leader with a Mega Evolution
Mega Honchcrow for Cyrus
actually Weavile is his strongest so that would be the mega
But Honchcrow is top 10 Pokemon oat
But honch is his signature
That’d mean
Mega Persian (and Probably mega Alolan Persian)
Mega Honchcrow
Mega Zoroark/Hydraigon
Mega Pyroar
And Maybe
Mega Clefable
And Mega Golisopod
Or mega Bewear
Lysandre already has a Mega
It’s annoying that the pokemon he basically resembles didn’t get a mega and they instead gave him Gyarados
Actually Mega Rhyperior, Giovanni anime is the only time he has a persian, his strongest always is Rhydon (except in FRLG were for some bizarre reason his strongest was a Rhyhorn)
Mega Weavile
Hydreigon
Gyarados is his Mega duhh
And Lusamine is a wild card
AND HELL YEAH MEGA GOLISOPOD
Mega Golisopod yanno, because that overgrown insect isnt too OP already
https://www.google.com/search?q=Mega+Golisopod&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjgh_mAqonXAhVLRSYKHUGzBIIQ_AUICigB&biw=1920&bih=949#imgrc=fGJ6f27qn7L2RM:
Why doesn’t Lusamine have a Froslass
Like… that’s the Pokémon that fits her the most
Better question: Why is there no Alolan Clefable for Lusamine, like for God’s Sake why is there no f*cking Alolan Clefable
Maybe because they don’t have a reason to change?
Maybe the caves and forests suit Clefairy’s existential needs and harbors no need to physically change to suit its environment
*Alolan Raichu*
GF does not care
you can’t hide behind the worst defense forever
Also, Clefable is sort of the Counterpart to Raichu. Clefairy could have been the Pikachu of the series, they got a prevo in gen 2, they both evolve from more popular mon with a stone.
Clefairy isn’t a counterpart to Pikachu. At all. If anything it’s a counterpart to Jigglypuff
Not officially, but you can’t say there aren’t many connections
They both evolve via moon stone
Both got a pre evo
Both pink fluff balls
No??
I said sort of and I said my arguments. What are you saying ”No” to?
You are completely wrong. Like… just objectively wrong
…..you constantly give me more reasons i should have your intestine pulled out with rusty farm equipment
I’m lucky I live in a Country you never heard of
Wtf is a Poland
WHY THE HELL DOES SHE NOT HAVE A NIHILEGO SERIOUSLY SHE DOESN”T EVEN HAVE THE POKEMON SHE”S EFFING OBSESSED WITH IN HER FINAL BATTLE
Because she’s fused with it in her final battle you dummy. For her Nihilego is more than a mon to battle.
THERE ARE MULTIPLE NIHILIGO
Then forget the first part of my post
She only caught one of them and that’s the one she fused with though. She didn’t catch any of the other ones because she wasn’t planning on battling with them.
Why does she have a Bewear? I dont see the connection
Girls like that cutsy crap
I like cutsey crap…
Cutesy stuff is rad af
There’s nothing cute about Bewear
Because she tends to smother people with affection (at least in the anime) and doesn’t realize she’s hurting others
I imagine GF had this in mind
Or on the outside she doesn’t appear too dangerous, but get too close to her and she’ll smother you
True
Probably because Acerola has it and they didn’t want overlap because they already had another feminine ghost type in the game
But…
Her hair looks like snorunt
She froze those Pokémon…
Like… just swap the ghosts
I think her hair subjectively looking like a random Pokemon isn’t a good reason for that tbh
And arguably, Mismagius is more beautiful than Froslass, at least in the eyes of the people who made Lusamine’s team.
The freezing is the main reason why
There’s plenty of people who share personality traits with Pokemon and don’t get it. I don’t see why it’s a big deal if she doesn’t have Froslass
It just feels like a missed opportunity
This game is gonna be insane… and I thought Odyssey had me hyped!
Tis going to be a very worthwhile gaming season
My only fear is our own eagerness will burn out our expectations and blow through the game in a week
Qwilfish and Mareanie are basically counter parts
Both are difficult to find
Both are poison/water
Both are spiky
But only one has an evolution. Am I sensing Gen 2 Discrimination?
No you’re sensing sarcasm
Weird one, Araquanid and Masquerain are considered counterparts for some weird reason
Bulbapedia says it i think
Because they’re day/night exclusive and have the same BST
Oops misread
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Thanks for this
It really is the best reaction for this
What is this from?
Boku no Hero Academia
Watch it.
The community as of now.
Somebody screwed up! That is AWESOME, whatever it is.
They’re the official download cards for USUM so I doubt they’re a mistake
I wouldn’t be surprised if they made one single new Alolan form and stopped there.
If they really see gen 7 as a celebration of 20 years of Pokemon, they should add at least 1 Alolan form from every generation imo
More like a celebration of gen 1
Real shame because the announcement trailer for SM was a dedication to all games, not just R/B/Y. I dont hate gen 1 at all, but the pampering has gone way too far
You okay there SUmo critical? :p
I was complaining about the gen 1 pandering the moment I realized that all the Alolan forms that were revealed were only from gen 1. Before SuMo was even out.
Wut
I was just making a joke about how cynical your comment was, I wasn’t talking about pandering or anything
I was just following up by saying I’ve had this complaint since before SuMo
But like
I was talking about your comment on only one new alolans, not anything about what the alolans are
The formatting in the comments is weird so it showed up under the gen 1 pandering thing oops
That would just be weird, but I guess I wouldn’t be super surprised
Everyone is thinking Oddish will get an Alolan form. But I am here hoping Victreebel gets one. It would be cool to see a Grass/Water Victreebel. Also it would be nice to see other UB’s evolve like Cosmog does. Maybe a Ground or Water type one.
It’s going to be Victreebell because they’re not going to make two evolutions for Alolan oddish
I hope so too, I always liked Victreebel better.
As a fellow Sunny, I share your sentiments on Alola Victreebell.
Ah, there are more of my kind on this world. Greetings fellow Sunny. And yeah, if they are sticking to Gen 1, then I’d love a Water/Fairy Rapidash. But low key, every gen had a different pattern Arbok. What if this Gen didn’t get a pattern, but an Alolan form!
Again!? Ok they better be good atleast this time -_- they’ve already appeared in like 4 games and looks like that wasn’t enough, just hoping the admins aren’t bland this time.
But really tho, why would they bring them back? Team Skull is basically a much better Rocket and they have a lot of things in common so I don’t think they’re gonna play a major role both at the same time, maybe Rocket is just Post-game and you could fight more evil teams as well.
So… yeah, I kinda feel that this is more pandering than anything, Gen 1 already got Alolan forms and now this.
Gen 6 and 7 are like 50% pandering
Maybe they are post game. From the looks of it, it seems the Rocket Hideout is in some odd Rainbow Dimension.
I hope too, that’d add a lot of life to the post game :0
Every Gen but the 5th Gen can be accused of Gen 1 pandering.
Gen 7 so far is a much bigger case for me atleast
Well yeah
Only Kanto Alolans
Red/Blue are back
Alolan Oak
Like 5 Kanto pokemon get exclusive z moves
We literally came from Kanto
because it had 150 Pokémon
Wow
Yeah really pandering in the one game where you can’t catch Pikachu
*but the 5th Gen
Read
I missed one word I’m sorry. I’m at school so I’m not paying the closest attention
Sorry, I wasn’t clear. I meant to say that the 5th Gen was the exception to 1st Gen pandering rule. At least until the 5th Gen remakes come out.
Well a lot of decisions these days boil down to Gen 1 pandering. It’s a sad truth.
I just hope Galactic is back, I’d love to hear their theme remixed
Maybe my theory is right and each gen after gen 6 will be a celebration of each gen from 1 to 6. So Maybe gen 2 regionals, a Rainbow Neo Rocket and Gen 2 protags in Gen 8, gen 3 regionals, Rainbow Magma and Aqua and Gen 3 Protags in Gen 9 and so on
So they already planned another 6 gens? o_o that seems a little far fetched imo
I guess so, but you never know in modern times how much is planned in franchises
*cough* Marvel *cough*
Thinks back to the announcement of the Detective Pikachu film…the PCU has already begun!
no
I feel like I’m the only person who really couldn’t care less about pandering
It’s not going to kill anyone and using your most popular iteration is what is gonna get you more attention
I can tell you now that if you randomly asked people on the street a decent amount of people will know what a Team Rocket is and like maybe one or two will know what a Team Plasma is
When it’s a 20 year celebration it is most certainly a problem. On Zelda’s 25th you didn’t see pandering to Ocarina of Time. The official art literally had every incarnation of Link. They celebrated all of the amazing games that people loved.
Gen 7 is nothing but gen 1 love for no reason other than it gets 90s kids who haven’t touched pokemon since gold/silver to notice when they see Alolan exeggutor on the trending page on YouTube
I’m really, just tired of the amount of attention that they’re giving to one gen and how they’re almost ignoring the others, like this has been like that for gens and gens, just leave Kanto alone, it has their time to shine and shone well.
And for the popularity thing, yes there are more people who know Gen 1 more than 5, but what about the 15+ million sales that BW got compared to the 10+ Million the FRLG got and is not that BW was despised considering it got a 8.1 rating on metacritic. And it’s almost like, a good chunk of people buying these games are already familiar with other games.
And yes, I know it’s because of GO, but I just hate when they care for one gen in particular while limiting the other gens in one or two cameos.
Doesn’t the Rainbow Rocket Headquarters look a lot like the Shady House? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/dcddd2ea994b9fea67e0c4e5872961609e03684080d828948c791ff87fb05660.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c43cef0d9a7daa9e91e516f7156894b003f1ea458ce674cc249e8659abb1ecae.png
Or am I just crazy?
Its the Aether Paradise mansion, look at the front door.
Oh yeah, it is. Well, never mind what I said before.
Why tho
KAHOOT IS IN SPOOKY MODE
I feel like GameFreak is constantly holding itself back.
Removing features fans love, obsessing over the days where pokemon was everyware and pandering to gen 1 and fans that are 20+ now and if they don’t play Pokémon now they probably won’t because Santalune forest is a 3D viridian forest, and just taking such little risks in the gameplay.
I feel there’s two ways to look at it.
1. Gamefreak should take risks especially now that we’re approaching gen 8 and I think they will take some on the switch
2. Many people like myself appreciate the references to gen 1 but I don’t think it’s the be all end all, just GF giving fans some nostalgia
Except the gen 1 pandering is going so far that it is seeping into every aspect of the games
Alolan Forms
Z Moves
Team Rocket for no reason
Alolan Oak also for no reason just as a cheap joke
The gen one pandering is annoying and has no place in games that are meant to celebrate the whole series.
Sonic games celebrate their history better. How sad is that
Yeah it can only go so far. I hope they don’t continue it to gen 8 and we get a fresh BW like start however the points you’ve mentioned above I don’t see them to be that big a deal tbh
– Alolan forms are a interesting concept and even of you disliked it we only got like 10 mons not the entire kanto dex
– Not sure how Z moves relates to gen 1? Maybe I’m overlooking something
– Time will tell what purpose TR holds in USUM. There must be a reason
– Pokemon characters do have relatives too you know. It’s just continuity I guess
You missed my points
– The idea of Alolan forms are fine. There is no reason why they should be gen 1 only.
– most of the exclusive z moves in SuMo were gen 1 pokemon
– Oh please we know already how this is going to work. Team Skull is Rocket but better in every way. They have no reason to be in this game. GS just crowding up the game.
– I don’t know about you but my cousin doesn’t have my exact face
Fair enough with the first 2 points ✌
As for Team Rocket’s return as of now we don’t have enough information and no we don’t know it’s actually rather surprising that they are returning and if it wasn’t for the rumours prior it would have shocked us even further soo we don’t know what role they will play exactly.
Perhaps a post game delta like plot.
And lastly yeah big deal it’s just one character star :]
It’s the principle of it though. There is no logic or sense to throwing them in. In any situation. Like…. they are only there for genwunners who won’t buy the game anyways.
And Alolan Oak is still a waste of time that is once again only there as a cheap joke for gen wunners
The whole joke of Samson Oak is that he’s the alolan for of Professor Oak
The issue that Star has is that there is no Alola Elm, or an Alola Birch.
Because all professors between Oak and Sycamore were terrible ?
I think the Z-moves is because a couple Kanto Pokémon got exclusive Z-moves. While the problem with Alola Oak is that his impressions of Pokémon are quite horrible. In fact if they increased such interactions in USUM then the games will probably get a 7.8/10 because there is too much Alola Oak.
Yeah but having a bunch of “nostalgia” in literally every gen kinda takes away the feeling of it
I don’t even feel nostalgia for Pokémon anymore with how much it has been abused
Exactly
True but honestly I don’t feel the nostalgia references we got in SM where deal breaking.
Cameo red and blue was basically a cameo. Alolan mons where what 10 of them and as for USUM we will have to see.
On the scale of the game they are just small minor references rather than major parts that overshadow the entire game.
X and Y only had Gen 6 and Gen 1 legendaries, megas for the Kanto starters and not even the Kalos starters, SANTALUNE FOREST WAS LITERALLY VIRIDIAN. Look at the lay outs
This sh*t had been going on for two gens now
Ehhh yeah you do have a point ?
Also ash greninja
Anyone else think Rainbow Rocket is inevitably going to be Necrozma related? Their colours are black and rainbow, just like everyone’s favorite parasitic prism
Of course I get a Marill with Aqua Jet bred onto it, but not with Knock-Off smh.
Seriously? Team Rocket? What is this the anime? I don’t want team rocket back team skull does their Job but way better and funny. Are we ever gonna stop going back to gen 1 things? This is just super tedious. It doesn’t even sound right! Team Rocket in Alola. I’ll give it a chance.
Giovanni better NOT be the leader. They have specifically said in multiple places he has quit team rocket.
Also if all this is just to send a radio signal for giovanni I’m quitting mid game.
Rumor says Ghetsis ends up leading them all
THAT MAKES EVEN LESS SENSE
Rumor says that StarStorm will be so infuriated at the senseless nature of the antagonists in these games, such that, StarStorm jumps into the game-and here is the plot twist- becomes an actual Star Pokémon revealing that StarStorm was the mysterious Pokémon on both covers all along.
I’ll pull an Asriel and you’ll have to battle me to stop me from deleting the game
It does make sense as far as his character goes. I can imagine him manipulating all the team leaders.
I highly doubt it would happen tho I mean he isnt a gen 1 character why would he get the spolight? Lmao
Its Ash
It all comes together!
So the guy whose one of his team grunt, criticized team rocket for its incompetence, is now leading them….
Woahh take it easy. I dont get this we’ve had TR in four seperate games cry.
Yeah just give it a chance for all we know we might get the other evil teams and this won’t be the same TR with GF’s better plot and story telling you can expect some fireworks
So on closer look at Burst’s image we fight it near a cove possibly on Wela
Wait scratch that i totally missed Hala https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/fd927ce5255db7ed1a65cb95ed081dcf80bbadfadbe41d08079177cbd3a94a71.png
That pose
Burst making miss Tyra Banks weep in her six inch heels ?
Mmmmmm 6inch heels
Oh god… 6 inch heels
Anyone else who doesn’t like trails? I mean they give you no feeling of accomplishment when beaten and some of them just feel like chores. They just kinda feel pointless and doesn’t prove anything as a trainer to me
Life skills gained
Because they threw them in last minute
Fantastic idea
Terrible execution
I mean I appreciate them trying something new but yeah they could be a lot better
I hope they change them but I’m so doubtful
I hope trials are better this time
In school, nobody cares
Anyone else in school?
Yep…
Yep
I’m dying :3
Me too
Developmental Neuroscience for the win!
So apparently a lot of the younger devs are working on Pokémon USUM while the older veterens are working on Pokémon Switch
Thats a good thing
They just consider it practice for the younger devs, which is annoying.But, they at least seem to be doing a good job so far, and they have some veterans working on it too
Yeah
Makes sense. The infrastructure is already there for USUM so they can play around and learn without having to worry about making the game from the ground up. Meanwhile the senior members are busy building the foundations of gen 8
The design I hope looks better
USUM has be giga hyped
This annoucnment
I just wanna know what a Cyrus and Ghetsis who have succeeded are like :3
Badass
Did the leak say the leaders succeeded? I just assumed they were generally just in the game and it wouldn’t mention for certain if they did or didn’t
I think TyranitarTube did a video on it
I believe so
Hmmmm I don’t remember seeing it. I’ll have to look around again.
Kayy
Succeeded? Cyrus wanted to destroy the universe and create another one for a reason not really well explained, and Ghetsis wanted to conquer the world.
So the more interesting question would be how’s a world where they’ve succeeded gonna look like :0
I mean … destroyed for Cyrus at least
Will they be god status?
WILL THEY HAVE LEGENDARIES!?
I think
If they succeeded the world would be destroyed by Cyrus -.-
alternate universes
I’d imagine he’d be like a god of the broken world
This is another reason I hate this alternate universe idea
They can just make up sh*t without committing to what they did before
They can still commit to what they did before
If rocket is post game
Callin it now the rocket stuff is the big post game story
Thatd be nice
Idk. With lusamije seemingly being chill it would leave room for another evil entity to take the AFs place. No Team Skull doesn’t count either……hahaha
RECON
I don’t think they’ll be evil straight up. They’ve already done the “they’re good! Jk they’re bad” with the AF and I don’t think they’ll do it again
It seems like it really
so is this true yet
https://archive-media-0.nyafuu.org/vp/image/1505/22/1505223065653.jpg
Essentially
Except for the part about Hau wearing better clothing…wait he is wearing cashmere now. I guess I stand corrected.
what if he changes mid through 😛
Better clothing and pulls a Blue…so halfway through the game he skins Blue and wears his skin.
R E D
Crying this dude was leaking details in March and nobody took it seriously for months.
Sorry but I still think he just got lucky because they expanded the camera sh*t and they haven’t shown any new Pokémon. Just UBs.
The guy’s username is USUM for crying out loud…
but he said RR? which is Rainbow Rocket
There’s people who have pointed out Camera fixes
If there’s even a single new pokemon besides a UB, this is true
Well I mean
UBs are Pokemon, and forms are often treated as new Pokémon
And just because a leak gets one or two things wrong doesn’t mean it’s automatically a guess lol
Game Freak treats them as separate and the leak separated them too
I believe GF 100% confirmed they are Pokemon now
> SuMo direct
> Captioned ‘New Pokémon’
> Shows UB Burst
You’re forgetting the possibility that GF may have added a new Mythical in these games for next year’s movie.
Why would he want Lusamine to take a chill pill? Her being crazy af made her one of the best villains in Pokemon really
He hasn’t gotten anything wrong yet and his points are also backed up by the Chinese Riddler. That or he is astronomically lucky. Occam’s Razor says that his wishlist is true.
He did, the Hau changing clothes but this is a wish list more than anything really
You’re saying this about a game that comes after two games were main characters had significant costume changes during the game
A costume change is not even that much of an issue for me. I want a different Hau though, he was so boring in SM & didn’t act as a rival at all. If he pulls a Blue, i’d be very satisfied.
He’s honestly going to be fleshed out a fair bit here
The DP’s overexcited rival didn’t have any considerable change at all and Cheren and Bianca had them because BW2 was a sequel and they’ve grown up.
And we’ve seen Hau with the same clothes already
Lillie and Iris. That’s what I’m meaning. Both changed clothes halfway through the story. This literally happened last year. Nothing is preventing Hau from changing clothes in the story. – _-
They both had a reason. The only reason I can find Hau changes clothes if he had a sudden personality change like the “””leak””” seems to be hinting at.
Hau already has a huge personality change in SuMo. He goes from trying to become stronger to surpass and impress other people before becoming stronger for himself.
And yeah. If the accurate so far leak is right, a costume change isn’t out of order.
^^^
Yeah, I forgot about that “huge” personality change, I hope that the costume change makes it a little better developed or something like that but can’t ask much for GF ¯_(ツ)_/¯
If you don’t think a character’s motivations completely changing isn’t huge I think you need to find a dictionary
adjective, huger, hugest.
1.
extraordinarily large in bulk, quantity, or extent:
a huge ship; a huge portion of ice cream.
2.
of unbounded extent, scope, or character; limitless:
the huge genius of Mozart.
3.
Slang. very important, successful, popular, etc.:
The show is huge in Britain.
Do you think a character change that was not very well conveyed is one of those things?
Important is a more fitting word that works way better. And I’m the one supposed to find a dictionary :3
As someone mentioned before, that can happen mid game or it could mean something else. Also wishlist is just a name he gave to the thread because he wanted to be subtle for some reason.
Uh, why’d it happen mid game? There’s not much reason and if that’d been the case, they’d probably have already shown us how he looks like
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand this totally isn’t any sort of leak don’t screen cap let’s wait for the game to be announced
Why did you cite the last comment?
I just find it really funny
How?
If they’re gonna pretend it’s not a leak, they did it in a obvious way
I mean they were saying it’s a leak but they knew nobody at the time would believe it
I feel like had credence once USUM was announced and had the same initials
Some things have come true but other stuff clearly hasn’t.