Moltres is finally available in Pokémon GO!
From now until August 7th you’ll be able to encounter and catch Moltres via Legendary Raid battles. It’s only available for a short time, so be sure to get out there, find a group of trainers, and catch it while you can!
To help you defeat this legendary Fire/Flying-Type here are the top 5 best counters to help you conquer it in battle:

Rock Throw / Stone Edge

Bite / Stone Edge

Water Gun / Hydro Pump

Dragon Tail / Hydro Pump

Rock Throw / Rock Slide
And if you’re lucky enough to catch Moltres, here’s a quick list of the top three movesets for Moltres so you can use your Fast and Charged TMs to the fullest:
- Fire Spin / Overheat
- Fire Spin / Fire Blast
- Fire Spin / Heat Wave











meme at its finest
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more like feces
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Well I’m thoroughly annoyed
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Happy August folks! By the end of this month, I will have begun to settle into community college…that’s a terrifying and exciting thought. We’ll most likely get Pokémon news this month, but with the end of the year approaching, I’m wondering when that Animal Crossing app will be revealed (as well as how). A Direct? A press release? And how long will they wait to release it?
My game is back today :^)
I’m extremely glad to hear that!…?!?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BZwivFCikI
Wait…..they’re bringing back that weird online games made by Cartoon Network? Very strange lol
YEP! but cartoonnetwork has nothing to do with it, its made by the fans, theres two verisons one thats the OG game and ones a re imaging, heres the trailer for the re imaging
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ff9nOqn6sIs
So what you’re saying is that they’re gonna get hit with copyright infringement lol
nope, already had a meeting with the head of cartoonnetwork, they are allowed to use only characters from toonami(tom only)-amazing world of gumball, anything else the game will get shut down
That seems very constricted. To basically they can throw Tom into the Amazing World of Gumball and that’s it lol
no the – means anything shows between that they can use
What does that mean then? That’s such a broad spectrum. Like anything that’s currently airing now, but nothing that’s been off the air for a specific amount of time?
Like any shows that aired and ended( also had to be in game too) between those 2 shows they can use, like Dexter, Powerpuff girls, Johnny test, Regular show, Adventure time, Flapjack,Chowder etc
ah well that’s a lot of good stuff then. I wonder what shows they’re restricted against using. I guess the most popular shows on the network seeing as CN would want to profit off of them directly.
they have a silhouette area (dont mind the larry david part it was during apirl fools and everything was changed too that)
http://www.fusionfalluniverse.com/images/Legacy/News/Devblog/Eddy/ffl_eddy_endcard.png
Hmmmmm another thing I wonder is if they’ll get the original VAs. Some of them might still be around, especially for currently/recently airing shows, but I imagine getting the much older show’s VAs will be tough.
They cant get VA, they are using voice clips from shows sadly
Ah that makes more sense I guess. I’d be willing to bet that’s a rule on CN’s list of restrictions.
yea most likely but i guess if they can make it work it will be fine
Also good luck with school my somewhat feathered friend
good luck with school! College really isn’t all that terrifying once you get into it. Just make sure to keep up with whatever work you have and you’ll do great. I’d be willing to bet we get Pokemon news sometime in the next week. With the 10th being the reveal day for that toy line I think they’ll show off whatever it is in official capacity before then.
Thank you! I’m not too concerned because the difficulty should be way less than my high school. I almost thought that they might have a USUM Direct as soon as this week. It’s definitely about time, but I still don’t understand why they’re approaching news in this way. There already isn’t that much hype because of the Switch, so they should have been aggressive with marketing from the start.
Yeah. Honestly the amount of time they’ve been silent isn’t too out of the ordinary, but the lack of excitement for the games certainly is a problem for them. Especially if they really do end up being regular 3rd versions with nothing super crazy to offer.
I’m going to respond to my own comment because I can. I can’t believe I didn’t think about this before, but I bet they’re going to use Apple’s “iPhone Pro” event next month to announce it like they did with Super Mario Run. Maybe it’s not as high-profile, but the timing does make the most sense.
it would be very cool! and whats this Iphone pro?
The rumored name of the iPhone 8 releasing this year, with a ton of new features like a screen over the entire front face (no home button/physical fingerprint scanner), double camera, etc. It’s going to be something else.
“Screen over the entire. Front face”
You mean like the s8
I need some feedback
Malisocrat
High Society PKM
Poison/Fairy
Rivalry/Poison Touch HA: Defiant
HP: 95
Atk: 110
Def: 55
SpAtk: 70
SpDef: 65
Speed: 95
BST: 490
Flatter
Swagger
Pound
Poison Mist (new low level poison attack)
Double-slap
Charm
Draining Kiss
Fake Tears
Embargo
Grudge
Feint Attack
Nasty Plot
Toxic
Poison Jab
Mean Look
Moonlight
Perish Song
Play Rough
Memento
I feel it should have a ‘t’ before the ‘o’, so it would be Malistocrat.
Hmmmm I don’t know about the physical fairy attack this thing is mostly a toxic attitude
I’m indifferent with the name
I think it flows better and makes me think of the Aristocrat part more. I kind of think Queenly Majesty might be a good ability.
I guess I mean this Pokemon thinks of itself highly and will do anything to stay atop the social food chain
Even going far as to attack its own kind with its poison soaked tentacles
I agree, Malistocrat sounds better
Fine it’s changed
Do we really need more low level Poison moves? We have Smog, Acid, Acid Spray, Clear Smog, and Sludge.
I just didn’t want sludge since it deals with clearer poisonous sweat
Clear smog, Acid or Acid Spray could work then?
Then why not Smog? It’s not liquid but it’s a vapour
Like as in the same kinda runny liquid as sweat
Fine I wanted to give every type a new attack for low leveling
If you wanted to give poison a new early move it should be physical because the rest are already special
I thought of poison sting but ehhhh
Poison Sting’s power is lower than my hopes to the future
Maybe something to do with the tentacles. Poison Fang and Poison Tail aren’t that strong.
Why is it fairy?
Because I wanted to make the allusive Fairy/Poison type and I thought of some kinda snobbish high society women with those big over the top dresses and vile and despicable sense of vanity and self importance
But how does that equate to fairies?
It will have some elements of a witch in this one but this one was the result of the idea
High society women with toxic attitude
Makes sense tbh, older bitchy women are called hags
Then shouldnt it be dark dark instead of fairy?
I mean I understand the High Society Women that attitudes, but that seems more Poison Dark than Fairy.
We will see some news within the first ten days. Get hyped! Im ready for some news.
After using Moltres a bit it has amazing strength. It OHKOs everything
They can’t stay silent much longer. I say CoroCoro at the latest, but then again I was sure that it would make an appearance at E3.
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Theory: if Eevee gets another evolution, seeing as its Z-Move is called Nine Evoli Boost and Eevee has eight evolutions, it’ll be its last.
And even then the nine could just be Eevee and its evos
YES!
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Thinking about a new move, Mercy Strike, a Ghost version of False Swipe. The Pokemon attacks with a forceful spirit but leaves its’ opponent alive, having mercy on its’ soul.
Sounds perfect for Greaper
You may use it.
Gurrrl you’ve got a Reaper mon too? Let’s hear it
Sec
Greaper is the final form of my Ghostly Pkm
Spectini Ghost
Ghostalker Ghost
Greaper Ghost/Steel
Spectini a spectral Pokemon that has a habit of wandering endlessly until it finds a person it has the exact same aura and once it’s found it it will follow you until the end of your days (some reported them following infants)
Then as it evolves its stalking habits get much more aggressive that if the person it’s following tries to outrun it it will scream and chase it down
And finally after leveling up around 45 at night it becomes the harvester of souls, it hunts Pokemon with long sickle like claws, it has a coiled head that constricts and unfurls based on somebody’s life force
Sounds cool, got the creepiness down. Generally I like it tbh, unique from Dusknoir.
Mine is a complete 180, it’s a cute little hooded ghost who’s dedicated to reaping souls, but is generally bubbly and excitable. Hence why some spirits slip though. It has the ability Soul Custody which means that when it faints an opponent, it takes their stat boosts.
I mean they mean no harm (unless you try to get away from it) they just yearn for a companion that it shares that specific wavelength, it has the ability Ethereal Body which attacks that make contact a chance to miss
And speaking of ghosts
Draghoul and Drequiem my Dragon/Ghost zombie dragons, these Pokemon are practically immortal and their bodies never heal from wounds or damage but they continue to live
Their only ability is Doom Stand where when fainted it has the ability to preform one last action for a solid turn but then faints afterwards
We need a variant that is anything but Fighting or another normal because got SOSing ghosts is dumb
Yeah, I thought Ghost would be most helpful and doesn’t completely outclass False Swipe because Normal types are immune.
We definitely need something like this. Even though Quick Balls are effective in some cases, it’s agonizing to try and catch a Shiny without having False Swipe available.
Yeah, it’s generally useful to have False Swipe for SOS and Legends too, so one that can hit different types better/at all is something I’ve been wanting.
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BTW. August is the day this amazing series happened
Oh wow can’t believe Bakugan is that old
Yeah, my favourite moment is when they said “Let it rip!!!”
I thought that the heart of the cards thing was bullshit writing though.
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Best trial captain and why will it always be Mina?
Hmm let me see..
Awesome team
Awesome personality
Great potential in USUM
Great design
She’s an artist
etc…
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Acerola is just a bit better but USUM can flesh out Mina
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Hey I love Mina too
I dunno Areola just doesn’t imprint on me
Agree, don’t like her
Ilima
Cubone needs Battle Armour to Evolve into Alolan-Marowak with Lightning Rod right?
A lightning rod Cubone will evolve into a lightning rod Alowak
Oh OK, it’s Rock Head that changes.
Yep the best Marowak is Rock Head imo
I might use Lightning Rod, since it gives an immunity,
My hype levels of USUM have sunk to enormously low proportions, I’m now of the believe that the game is nothing more than a quick cashgrab ‘remaster’ and will only get information a month in.
If I wasn’t reminded of them here I’d probably forget they exist.
Same what are those Gamefreakites thinking, are they purposelessly starving us of info just to reveal something
Earthen, every game has had droughts. For XY after the first trailer we got nothing but Sylveon for months (and even then we got a huge tease with its type), and SuMo was exactly the same as USUM is now except it was more hype because new Gen.
Meh, but at least we saw good leaks about starters for SuMo, we have had no solid sounding leaks for it at all
Those good leaks came after actual news. Those leaked in June, after the two month + drought
I saw quite a few starter games tho
Like the Ram, lizard and bear were around April/May I think
Those were really obvious fakes tho?
I thought they were real
The games release in three months.
Tell that to BW2
With BW2 we at least knew what they were, they fucked up so much with USUM teaser and they aren’t taking any action at rectifying it. Seems to me like they don’t have a lot of good news to tell.
All we knew about them was that they were sequels, just like we only know that USUM are ‘another’ story.
And considering that sometimes ‘2’ might not even mean there related (see: Final Fantasy and XC) we still didn’t have that much to go on.
But what does another story mean? It’s a lot less clearer than sequel.
It literally means ‘another story’. We’re visiting Alola with a different story line. Probably not a sequel, and going off of Pokémon’s past, it’s a redo of an old one.
What’s a good Lurantis set? (I know it’s not great but I want to use it in Moon).
In game, I used Leaf Blade/Leech Life/Brick Break or Poison Jab/Swords Dance with Scope Lens. It’d actually amazing in game tbh
I need it to be useable after too because I’m breeding it shiny. I’m thinking about using a Contrary one.
Thing is tho it’s only contrary move is Leaf Storm iirc, and Lurantis has higher Attack and a better physical movepool. Here’s Smogon’s set for it
http://www.smogon.com/dex/sm/pokemon/lurantis/
Yeah they say to use it with Leaf Storm. They don’t have an expanded analysis so I’m really not sure I had thought maybe I’d use a contrary physical attacker that gets boosted by intimidate, or maybe mixed.
I am honestly relieved this thing was a total dud
The minute I saw this thing I feared that it would have chlorophyll and wreak havoc with insta Solar Blades
Mega Lurantis with Chlorophyll ?
Sun/Moon – Leaked 25th Feb, Revealed 26th Feb. No news revealed. Got info on the 10th of May. A drought of 74 days between reveal and first news, besides Magearna being revealed as Steel/Fairy.
Reveal to Release: 266 days
Ultra Sun/Moon – Revealed 6th of June, no info as of today, 1st of August 2017. The ongoing drought has been 56 days. That’s 18 less than Sun and Moon’s.
Reveal to Release: 164 days
Not only do we have shorter to wait from reveal to release, the drought still isn’t as bad SuMo’s, especially as we were way further from release.
‘But we’re unsure of what Ultr-‘ we were unsure about SuMo, a bunch of people for some reason thought it was Gen 6.5 or Kalos’ Johto. We’ve been told it’s an alternate story, and thus we’re being strongly pointed to the direction that it’s more of a retake than a continuation.
We know that it’s probably a third version or even a complete change of SuMo’s story based on the phrase ‘another/alternate story’. It could even be a sequel, however unlikely. But GameFreak knows that for most fans, the story isn’t purely what sells it to them.
The story might be amazing and make you want to get the game more or bad and make you want less, but GameFreak knows what ultimately sell is new features. Walking Pokemon, move tutors, new Alola Forms, new formes, etc.
It doesn’t matter if it’s a sequel, prequel, alternate timeline, or an in-game musical to celebrate Lillie, Queen of the Multiverse, because it’s the features that are gonna sell the game and they’re not gonna start spilling the beans when there isn’t as much beans to spill.
Could also be feedback to people bitching about how much the game was spoiled for them :v
Heh, I remember the SM drought
And it was torture because CoroCoro kept teasing us with crap like this
http://media.pocketmonsters.net/news/2549/corocoroapril1.jpg
That was the most irritating thing for me
Having the whitout effect
What you left out is that the game comes out in 3 1/2 months. When we first got real SM info, launch was still a good 6 months away. They could wait longer because they had more of a time cushion. While it’s true that there’s less to reveal this time around, it’s not smart from a marketing perspective for the company to keep tight lips on the games after the reveal provoked some negative response. Of course they don’t have to reveal anything, heck, they could technically stay silent until release, but that doesn’t seem logical from their standpoint, at least to me.
As for that last statement, neither of the two poles is a good choice. On the SM hand, they ruined what they value most, surprise. On the USUM hand, keeping silent for this long has given ample time for people to form negative assumptions based on a rough first impression of the games. Just scroll a few comments down and you’ll see what I mean.
I did mention time to reveal for each of them to illustrate that USUM is coming out. In fact, my whole point is we’ve had less of a drought that SuMo and we have shorter to wait.
And it’s fairly obvious that the reason that USUM has been silent is because they won’t have as much to reveal. They probably revealed it without the info because they know how restless their fandom is, especially coming off of a 1 year break.
If they go for a SuMo style schedule, 3 1/2 months will be ample time to release info for a third version. It’s no reason to panic and boycott the game because they’re now used to being spoiled.
BW2 were also revealed closer to release than normal, also had a fairly similar drought, and probably, to be honest, brought similar doubts. However, despite having worse sales, they’re regarded as great games full of content.
The fanbase can be quite impatient, myself included. I’ll give you that. And of course it’s plenty of time to reveal enough information. They could do it with a day until release. But my point isn’t that they can’t, it’s that they shouldn’t. You don’t exactly have to go on a magical quest to find that a large chunk of consumers are frustrated with the game as it stands and are jumping to unfair conclusions about USUM. However, much of that is derived from mass confusion. Let’s see here, they announce a pokemon direct that’s six minutes long, and tack on a new game “reveal” at the end of a 3 minute trailer for a game that’s been out for over a year. They proceed to talk about the game for twenty seconds with ambiguous wording about nearly every point, then say “stay tuned!” and go silent for two months. My point is, the drought itself isn’t the problem. The problem comes when a two month drought proceeds and rough announcement that left everyone confused.
Maybe I’m just looking for a place to project my impatience onto, but from a marketing perspective, it’s a terrible decision. First impressions matter.
I do agree the actual reveal could’ve been a million times better. That teaser should’ve been by itself if they were going to do a teaser at all. But it’s still more info than we got for other game reveals such as BW2 and SuMo, which had very large draughts. At least they gave more info than they usually do, because we rarely get jack and shit. We’ve had tiny nuggets to speculate off of rather than nothing – which has lead to really cool theories like the Broken Akala theory, which would’ve been impossible with the standard ‘dump the titles and fuck off’ approach.
Yes, this is subpar marketing. But people are severely overestimating what this means. BW2 sold shit for Pokemon games, but are extremely well received. And it still sold well and is a Pokemon game, so its not like a bad sale will cause the franchise to fail or decline in quality.
I completely agree with you on that last paragraph.
I know we got some footage and all, but it’s all of the variables compounded together that make it a bad decision. But by that last paragraph, it seems we’ve already agreed on that.
Yup, defo agree it’s shitty marketing and GameFreak needs to wise up, but I’m pretty much doing damage control like this fandom does every time because I know that unless GameFreak becomes totally fucking incompetent at least some people are gonna like USUM regardless of what they said before
Uhh no. We knew what Sun and Moon was at least better than USUM
It was pretty obvious that Sun and Moon was a new generation because of how they revealed it. 20 years of Pokémon, all the games, concept art. But with Ultra Sun and Moon, it could be a platinum version, sequels, alternate universe or something else entirely. It’s so infuriating
Take yourself to online Web forums like Serebii and Bulbagarden, dig back to 2016, see all the arguments over whether SuMo was related to XY at all or not, and whether it was a ‘.5’ Gen or a completely new Gen. At least we know USUM is connected to SuMo.
If it was a sequel, they would’ve said sequel. I might be wrong but to me the phrase ‘another’ and clips of things not in SuMo make it seem like it’s going to be an alternate take, not a sequel.
Sun and Moon being related to Kalos is vastly different.
Sun and Moon was: It’s probably a new gen but it could be a Kalos sequel
USUM is: It could be a third version, sequel, or alternate universe.
And again, that’s all up to interpretation. The new flowers could mean a sequel in a more developed Alola, or it could be a third version like how Platinum vastly changed many areas making them prettier.
Those Lycanrock and Mimikyu things could be cutscenes, Z-Moves or Trials and if it’s new trials it could be a sequel or an AU
No one knows what the hell the games are. Sun and Moon were pretty obvious. They weren’t up to debate as much
SuMo were not obvious at all lol. The debates were worse than SuMo was, because people didn’t know what the region was based on, what the mascots would be (I even heard people suggest the Mega Charizards as mascots!!!) and we just came off of a full Gen with tons of insane unanswered questions.
Whereas we know that USUM is probably an alternate take on the story of USUM (alternate universe and third version are pretty much the same concept, just different in how drastic they are)
Speaking of unanswered questions in SM, I better get some context here GF.
What really is Type: Null?
What’s the deal with Necrozma? (This one’s a given)
Why are there so many unused locations?
Why is Tapu Village in ruins?
What happened to Poni island?
and please, for the love of arceus,
EXPLAIN THE ULTRA BEASTS
Oh, and also explore tapu lore some more.
Tapu Village and Type: Null are answered in SuMo :v
Wait really? (the tapu village stuff I mean. I know Type: Null is an ultra beast killer but it wasn’t fleshed out well. What is it a fusion of? Who created it? Why is there one in sinnoh? RKS system?)
Tapu Village: they put a supermarket in sacred land, Bulu destroyed the whole village in retaliation.
Fusion: Cells. The documents at the Aether Foundation say that it’s cells used to give it access to all types, so it’s probably just an artifically made organic body or a chimera of body parts or like cells implanted into an embryo or something. (which GameFreak probably wouldn’t of wanted to mention in case peeps get angry over frankenstein mon)
Sinnoh:??? There was never one in Sinnoh. They went to Sinnoh to research the myths on Arceus to work on inspiration of type changing.
RKS: the memories probably activate the different type cells in Silvally, hence the name ‘memory’. It was most likely installed to be able to adapt to fighting Beasts any time.
Creator: Faba. It’s all in secret Lab A in Aether Paradise.
To support your point, even Serebii labelled them under “6.5?” for a few days.
Though, in retrospect it was pretty clear, since they went through all the generations in the reveal trailer.
Even then tho, that could’ve been taken as a thing for the anniversary rather than for. A totally new Gen.
People thought that SM was a related to Gen 6? Didn’t we saw in the reveal trailer a Pokecenter that was completely different from Kalos’, thus suggesting that is a different gen? lol
People thought the region would take us back to Kalos.
So they thought it was a new region plus Kalos?
but
New region: new gen
Poké fans are weird lol. People thought the region was Southern France and it’d just be southern Kalos. I did mention other people thought it was like Johto, as in a new region with an old region taped on for sales in a new gen
Omg the games are Called Sun and Moon and not Triangular X and hardy Y or XYZ or something like that lol
Gold and Silver weren’t called Metallic Red and Blue
Ok yeah, but I was arguing about the people who thought that SM was XY sequel. I already mentioned the two region argument in a previous comment :p
XY had a lot of references to the Sun. Sundial, Parfum Garden, Lysandre. NPC asked if a moondial exists, another mentions a group of people who weren’t team skull interested in the legendaries.
Kalos doesn’t include much of southern France so people thought the new ‘region’ was just part of Kalos.
The logic for the name connection was that you can use XYZ to place celestial bodies’ positions and shit, I never believed tbh
Ah. But I doubt they’d change the name just for a few references here and there. And the southern part… since when the regions had to include the whole Country/Area/State
Well I battled Lucia in a 15 person raid
Lost about 20 Pokémon and got it down to red before time ran out 🙁
Weird how my 768 Umbreon survived longer than my 1892 Rhydon
Sorry Lugia
“. . .featuring pokemon that didn’t appear in the original versions.”
– Masuda, during the June direct
Pretty sure this just means old pokemon not in the SM alola dex, as I don’t want to get my hopes up. However, technically all 802 pokemon can appear in SM, an the wording is quite suspicious.
Oops, didn’t finish.
At this point do most people agree, or are you still holding out hope?
Holding hope
And that Mantine will appear
I want to believe, but hope about the Alola dex has betrayed me once before.
Still haven’t given up after the demo I see ;p
Haha, never. 😛
I wanted to believe the latter, but since they haven’t revealed anything yet, it probably means the former. Maybe just worded that way for hype points.
I’m still thinking it’s just new alolan forms
That would still be pretty neat. Maybe we’ll see the rumored water arcanine and fighting alakazam?
I hope so, these two are the forms I wanted the most to see 😡
THIS IS MY POINT
THEY WORDED IT SO VAGUELY
THAT CAN MEAN LIKE 7 DIFFERENT THINGS
Yep. Then, while their fans are confused and slightly angry, they go silent for two months. And people wonder where the impatience comes from. Simple confirmation of a few points isn’t that hard.
Noooooo!!!! I don’t want a mess like Pokémon SMD
??
Way too many to many to hold down
And Quite a few will be too easy to catch or find
What was wrong with super mystery Dungeon
Other than the fact that if you don’t have revived seeds you can get stuck at the final boss
They added all 721 Pokemon and made them way to easy to befriend
In the originals you must battle foe’s that you have a chance to befriend, but it’s not guaranteed capture
In SMD you just have to grab an item, escourt someone, save someone, or the rare chance of a boss battle you just get it
Worse they give quite a few legends foe free and powerful helpers like giving Alkazam, Tyrantar and Charizard to you by just beating like 10 quests
I’m pretty sure it’ll just be new forms and old Pokemon not in SM
Pokémon BW2
Revealed: 26 Feb 2012
Released: 23 Jun 2012
Reveal to Release: 118 Days (over a month less than USUM)
Reveal to First Big News*: 48 days (only 10 less days than USUM’s current drought)
FBN to Release: 70 Days
BW2 got their first big news town months and a third before their release. Granted BW2’s reveal and release were closer, but if anything that’s worse because it gives you less time to prepare for them and have GameFreak less promotion time.
*We were told about Black and White Kyurem, but that’s it. We didn’t even get a release date revealed for BW2 for the first few months.
I don’t know if the reactions are similar to USUM or what, but just because they made a similar decision a few years ago doesn’t mean it’s a good choice in their current market. Stop trying to justify their marketing incompetence.
Games still sold relatively well and got great reviews lol
Oh absolutely, I’m not saying that their marketing equates to the quality of the actual games (if it didn’t we’d be in trouble).
Yeah I think people are freaking out about the lack of news for no reason. I’m more concerned about the nature of the games rather than how much pre-released info we get.
I think the fear mostly comes from them being silent. Like, the games are not so good so they try to hide that fact and prepare for a very short advertising cycle so the negativity does not completely burn the game out. But seems like it might be backfiring whether the games are good or not.
If the game was total trash, why would they even release it when they’ve been working on PokeSwitch? They’ve taken gaps before and if they were really shitting themselves about it being bad they could’ve just made a third version with a battle facilities or something and the fandom would coo over it
Nobody knows how these things are negotiated. Maybe Nintendo wanted some 3DS games still the ride out the console and ordered GF to produce some new games on a tight budget and time schedule.
Then why wouldn’t they just jazz up Sun and Moon and slap on some post game stuff rather than going for the ‘alternate story’ thing that means they appear to be changing up more (like us having an Ula’ula Z-Ring and the cutscenes with multiple Pokemon)
Inb4 USUM are just what I described lol
The more I think about it, the more I realize that USUM will probably sell terribly.
– Third Versions always sell less
– Tiny tiny window to get people hyped (Sun and Moon had 8 months, USUM has 5 months. Or actually 4 since they wasted a month)
– Many people will just wait until Pokémon Switch instead of buying an extremely similar game for an outdated system
They will probably take the crown for worst-selling main games, taking over from BW2.
Technically 3 and a half months for USUM lol
For a pokemon game? Yeah. For a game in general though? Nope, they’re pokemon games. They’ll sell like hotcakes, even if GF makes Pokemon Yes and No, marks them up to 100 bucks a piece, and releases them on the GBA.
Having “Pokemon” in the title is a huge cushion for them.
However on a more positive note, sales aren’t really what we care about. Emerald and Platinum didn’t sell that well yet they’re considered to be some of the best games. BW2 is widely considered better and sold worse than BW.
Tbh, why do people here care so much about the sales? Pokemon always sells millions, so it’s not like the franchise is going to crash and burn if they dip a bit. It’s the quality that matters imo.
Black 2 and White 2 had a shorter timeframe to hype, didn’t have any new gimmicks like Megas, Alolans or Z-Moves they could adf mid Gen, and didn’t come out straight after Pokemon GO and other anniversary promotion that put Pokemon back into the limelight.
It’s the precedent. Video Game industry people are very stupid when it comes to figuring out why games don’t sell.
Notice how much content was packed into B2W2? Then it selled trash. So they figured no one cares about crazy post game stuff which isn’t true
And then we got X&Y with practically 0 post game
Gold and Silver sold amazing with a large post game but less than Red and Blue then we got Ruby and Sapphire which had trash post game.
You can apply that to any dip in the franchise.
Was there even a post game in R/S? I never even thought about it
Pretty much just catching a few legends, so arguably worse than XY depending on your opinion.
I fear what might happen if USUM is similar. Great games (yay), but bad sales (boo). We already know GF is very fragile when it comes to extra content. If games that go above and beyond sell poorly, it might be the nail in the coffin.
Share- and stakeholders in a company decide otherwise though. It’s all about relative performance, and if something underperforms you can be sure there will be people fired or replaced at top positions.
I fuckin said this the other day and everyone shit on me
It’s a never ending cycle.
Person A: I want USUM news.
Person B: Don’t be so impatient.
Person B: I want USUM news.
And the cycle continues.
Literally this
My main hope for USUM is that it’s actually worth buying. Since it’s reveal I’ve been concerned that it’s just SM with a new coat of paint. If it has a decent story change up and has a bunch of features that SM didn’t have then maybe it’ll be worth it, but if it’s just SM with Necrozma shoehorned idk about that……
Yeah no one wants third versions ever since they did B2W2 so hopefully they’re in touch with their fanbase. But who am I kidding? They never fucking are
Oh come on, it’s pokemon. All of us here will buy it no matter what. Even the “re-skins” are considered fantastic games.
That being said, since we know virtually nothing, I fear that USUM may have been an afterthought to pad the 3DS’ line-up as well as calm the fans until Pokemon SW.
The problem is that the other 3rd versions weren’t released a year after their original games. If USUM is just SM but with minor changes then what was the point of playing SM in the first place? It made sense for the others as there was enough time between the games that it felt ok to release an updated version of the games. This time it’s just feel like a middle finger to the face
And this here is EXACTLY my point. You’re confused about what the games are, which has provoked a negative reaction and assumptions about the game. I rest my case.
(Sorry for using you as evidence, but I saw my chance. xD)
It’s…….Fine……….listen I understand my confusion. I’m willing to keep an open mind until we actually get info, but what the actual games end up being is a huge deal. It could make or brake them
Sorry if my response was a bit out of the blue. It’s nothing against you, I know a lot of fans are confused (heck, I am too. It’s fair to say we all are), but when false assumptions start to emerge, that’s when their “strategy” backfires.
And I totally get what you’re saying. Since they haven’t revealed anything, it does raise the question of whether or not they have that much to reveal.
It’s fine no offense taken. Anyway again I’d say it’s the impression they gave us in the first trailer that’s more concerning than the lack of news. BW2 had basically 2 maybe 3 months max of actual news before it came out. So saying that we won’t get a lot in the game because of such a small pre-release period a bit silly.
Yeah really the issue lies with Gamefreak NOT communicating what we should be expecting. Speculation is only fun when we have something to go on
If I had to guess, I would say that USUM is just padding until they can put out the Switch version. So I’m gonna guess that they may not even be that updated :/
I’m not sure they need padding like that tho. It’s not like they’ve never taken a year off before. They can do whatever they like honestly. If you concider every non first game of each gen as padding then there’s no point in having them at all. They all have their own places for better or worse. That’s just my opinion tho lol
‘Wow Platinum is so good’
‘GameFreak give us another third version and I’m boycotting’
We arent living in 2010 anymore
Idk I’d think so with the way some of you are acting ¯_(ツ)_/ ¯
Still doesn’t change the fact Platinum was a third version and amazing
Oh lordy lordy i’m exhausted…..
Sleep my friend. Afternoon nap :).
Bitch the one time you’re not here for an argument XD
and those morons lost me my part-timeness
So are you out of a job or did you have like side jobs?
Or are you speaking about something else entirely and I’m just assuming the worst?
Salmon Run
Earthen I thought you lost your job, you need to classify XD
Do you guys think the starters will get anything new at all in USUM? Like even just new animations like the starters in BW2?
I think it’s possible that
we’ll finally find out what rockruff and the starters have in commonthey get new forms.I get emails through my phone of what people commented (so much regret) and the strikethrough wasn’t there and I was triggered boi
Same tbh, at least I hope so because I’ve used every starter at least once
You know you can deactivate the e-mails, no? :p
No because I’m too much of a nosy bitch
Settings > Email notifications
Yep, same (well, not Incineroar, but I have standards, you know). As it stands, I think I’ll use an early game mon as my pseudo-starter.
Inci is amazing, but I wouldn’t expect a Deci fan boy to understand
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5b21b99d7279463abcbee81b013a97e9eb855cd93b5998d07aa42c5bf9da4ac8.gif
:p
Pssh, no way Incineroar could do that with hands bigger than its head.
Real talk, all three Gen 7 starters have disgusting hands
Fair enough, but they’re comically large. It seems like more of an oversight than a design aspect to me (but then again I’m not sure how you couldn’t catch something like that).
Inci and Prim have yaoi hands
Deci either has thin wide feathered fingers or prehensile feathers and both disgust me
Hopefully what they get in USUM is better hands
What if they just get human hands.
GF: We’ve heard your complaints about hands now shut up about it
They all get featured in the ARMS prequel: HANDS
i dunno i liked Dartrix’s feathery fingers maybe if they didn’t look like planks it would be better
Dartrix’s look better because they don’t have to handle a bow and arrow, Deci’s fingers are a necessary evil
Primarina and deci dont have hands
Who cares tho?
Primarina has flippers, that’s what I was referring to. They’re still hideous.
Deci has fingers that it uses to operate their bows and arrows. Still hideous.
Prima’s hands aren’t bad ?
Yaoi flippers
Bad thing it is?
Yes, they’re ridiculous and clash with the elegant design
All imo
Why you said imo? Now I can’t make a counterargument due to the subjective manner of the matter ::::(((
I enjoy making you all. Suffer >:)
Eeeeeeeviiiiil
Don’t knock it till you try it
I found that unlikely tbh, I probably think that they’re just focusing on the “new” mons, the new storyline, the legendaries and a few new features here and there
Nope, and I plan on skipping them
Saaame, Deci is boring asf I’ve used Inci twice and I’ve used two fairies in most of my SuMo playthroughs so I’d like to avoid using one unless it’s new
I just get burned out on the starters real quick…
There’s some I can use forever and some that I just wanna toss immediately (*cough Jolly Primarina cough*)
yeah some just don’t do it for me
sometimes i just want to just grab a Sandshrew or a Cubone off the streets and just use that
Just do it
Breed a Kantonian Sandshrew and trade it over
As much as i want to the rules are the first playthrough of any mainseries game must be from the local region’s national dex
but i’m really considering the Jangmo-o
Omg no do Jang its cute
*do it
but it feels like cheating i mean it’s just too cliche to give yourself a Pseudo Legend baby at the start of the game
but Jangmo-o learns shit and will have to rely on TMs unless i give it Dragon Breath
Really? I’ve never heard of anyone doing it and tbh it’s not like you’re going to make the game that much easier than it would be already
well i hear so many stories of people sending over practically all their entire team in the beginning of the games and often all shiny
i try not to be so frivolous since i prefer starting from the ground up (no pun intended)
but this Jangmo-o thing really ticked me off
I’d just do it, it’s just one Jangmo-o. It evolves relatively late anyway so it’d be a challenge raising your little warrior into a mighty paladin, and it’s not like it’s a 6IV shiny with all egg moves. It’s just a lil cutie to be your starter
Alright fine but it will be
Male
Soundproof
either Timid or Modest
in a Heavy Ball or Level Ball
and will know Dragon Breath
IVs whatever and no EV investments
Do ett
i was gonna send an egg but i don’t want to risk it being female
Save the game, hatch the egg, reset. Egg values are based on when you get it, not when it hatches. If you trade it, it’ll stay male.
Prolly new Z moves. I’d say new animations a mixed bag now in this day of 3d models. It’s hard to say
They’ll have Ultra forms. Haven’t you been watching the trailers on YouTube?
Sadly
I’m really debating if i like that idea or not
first of all these Ultra Forms could just be a load of hoo-ha and just be ginormous cocktease just for box legends
and wasn’t there a tweet saying that these forms weren’t exactly Solgaleo and Lunala
there’s just such a painful lack of what exactly is going on
That is what I think. I was just making a reference to the trailers jokingly.
i doubt we’ll get anything fancy since they wouldn’t bother making new animation when its cheaper and lazier to re-use them
but that being said i want them to fix Incineroar’s idle animation so he doesn’t have his arms out like a weirdo and haves them crossed
https://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/pokemon/images/b/b6/Incineroar_SM.gif/revision/latest?cb=20161127205226
https://i.makeagif.com/media/10-28-2016/wtDdBU.gif
This guy slaps your girls ass at the PWT wud?
My Vespiquen stings its feet to match those meat grabbers
I remember back when there were like 10 pokemon revealed and everyone had already planned their team. I waited until the dex leaks, but even then, I only used 1/3 of my planned team in the real game.
I was gonna use everything and then just chucked it all and went sooo off course tbh XD
I can never plan, I just find it boring to follow it and I can never follow it anyway :p
For me there was only one big change up for my team during the run and it was one fueled by rage.
Pray tell? :0
Mimikyu decidedly became my favorite Pokémon and still is now. So when it took me two hours to see my first wild Mimikyu, only for my Araquanid to critical hit it to death. I was quite frustrated to the point that I boxed Araquanid…forever.