A week ago Laura Dale, a video game journalist, participated in a Reddit AMA (‘Ask Me Anything’) session for the Nintendo Switch in which she claimed that the Pokémon Sun and Moon follow-up, codenamed Pokémon Stars, could feature 20 new Pokémon.
This is notable as Dale has been involved in leaking other information about the Nintendo Switch which has been proven accurate. She mentions that another gaming writer (who unceremoniously announced Pokémon Stars on the release day of Sun & Moon) didn’t think the inclusion was likely.
Where this leaves us, the fans, isn’t known, but it does raise a question: will their be Nintendo Switch exclusive Pokémon? While we have always had new forms or event legendaries for titles within the same generation, content has never been locked away on a separate console. This could make some uncomfortable if they can’t catch ’em all without ponying up what is likely to be $300 for the Switch this spring.
A Nintendo Direct focusing on the new console is just a week away, so we could see the title announced with more details then.
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Well, fuck GameFreak if they do that.
That’s very inappropriate.
Maybe, but it’s also my most honest reaction.
That’s right.
And all those new pokemon will have encounter rates between 1-10%
Ha. Ha.
as fucking if. S/M are the end of this “generation”, deal with that already.
See ya next year with gen 8 on Switch
There’s literally nothing to suggest that but okay…
exactly; literally nothing, that’s why Stars or anything else follow up to S/M won’t happen. Just pull S/M up in IDA and have a fun time seeing that S/M was planned ever since X/Y and actually, nothing else is.
Nothing except rumors from sources who have repeatedly proven their credibility. It’s not confirmed, of course, but it’s not something to just ignore.
Far from ignoring it, that’s why I had the thought of looking up things in the ROM. X/Y predicted OR/AS which then again predicted S/M by game origin values. Sadly, I can’t find the original source on that because the site was hacked, but two unused game origin values were in OR/AS and guess what, we got two more games. S/M got nothing more, they fill up those slots.
As for “Stars” to be Switch exclusive, different wireless communication make the games directly incompatible. Indirect compatibility, like Bank, would probably work, however there’s no reason they would ever do that.
By that logic then we’d never get another Pokemon game though.
They’ve only run out of numbers for the console-specific titles, that’s basically it. It’s not a perfect explanation, but gen 8 is the next step.
If stars is real, then I HIGHLY doubt we’ll see it at Switchmas. It seems to close to SM’s release to be announcing a game that’s basically an enhanced version.
sigh it will be a long time before i can buy the switch~
I’ve been saving up for a while now, but I’m just worried about it selling out.
hope you can get one before it runs out!!
Haha thanks!
Emphasis on COULD I seriously doubt that, they NEVER add any new Pokemon to a dex via remakes not once ever
Third game/sequels? They kinda kinda did with Deoxys/Giratina and they kinda did with Kyurem. Remakes? Megas are kinda equal to new mons in the game code. People argued “but they’re not new entries in the Pokedex” and yet we got new dex entries for them in S/M so that argument is dead tbh
ALL FORMS OF EXISTING POKEMON
Not full fledged Pokemon
Of course, I don’t believe any rumor the slightest.
Basing on patterns. Lol dont be silly.
piss off you know its true
I dont think anyone knows the truth yet
pssshaw
I doubt there will be 20 new POKEMON in stars. Now 20 new FORMS yeah that’s a very good possibility. Very often in Japan when we get a new form for a Pokemon the Japanese promotion will call it a “brand new Pokemon!”. In the end it’s just a form. It’s likely the same kind of semantics here. I could very well see 20 new Alolan forms or even 20 new megas. They skipped megas for Sun and Moon to fully show off Z moves, but I don’t think megas are done for. I could see Stars being the start of Alola basically integrating what the rest of the world has more wholly. At the end of SuMo they had just gotten a Pokemon league and now Mega stones are making their way more wide spread into the region.Stars is definitely a real project if you ask me and I believe this person is also a reliable source as well. People can get things wrong while still being correct so I wanna say that what she said is at least partly true. Only time will tell, but that what I think lol
I can agree to this.remember spiky ear pichu? They hype that up very seriously around that time calling a new Pokemon and everything. I like the pichu but it didn’t deserve that much marketing even if a movie was coming out at that but,but like you said Japan tends to do that lol
Watch them all be UBs.
Or yeah they could all be UBs. Like I said in my post below, I doubt they’ll just be normal Pokemon. Forms are the best bet I believe lol
I would love to see that XD
i think they’ll just be new megas and maybe more alolan forms
hmm… well it would be interesting. I just hope that it’s not the exact same game but now with 20+ new pokemon(if even that it’s probs just new forms or something), some dialogue changes or extra story would be nice.
Prolly won’t be. I wanna say one of the rumors from Eurogamer stated that the story would be more or less all new. I honestly don’t have any idea where the article they said that is now tho. I don’t think it was in their first article about the game, but in a subsequent one that featured rumors about a bunch of games. I could be wrong tho lol
I would hope if i have to pay that much money for a whole to console to buy a pokemon game there would be way more than 20 pokemon
And as stated prior, Im pretty sure they’ve said new pokemon when they mean form change/ mega. And since megas and form changes have pokedex entries it could seen as a new pokemon. Still better be more than 20
I’m pretty sure Stars/Gen 4 Remakes will be on 3DS too or only on it. Unlike all you skeptics, I still believe Game Freak would neve make a generation on two separate console.
you call us skeptics, i call you false believer
I mean that’s not all they’d add I’m sure.
Battle frontier pls
Here’s to Earthen and his stalwart pokemon! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d5085108217cf61ee7a7daaa09702e7ada7bc7c154865874cddbc469e07d5919.jpg
Earthen’s Demands for Stars (if not met severe repercussions are as followed)
-a better Story: have much more fights with opponents with fuller teams that can’t be easily shot down, Ultra Beasts actually destroying and causing harm,
-Ultra Space: lets face obvious facts it sucked, they should’ve made a whole distortion world puzzle gauntlet (and give Lusamine a frigging Nihilego)
-Much better leveling options, or at least make Chansey chainable or at the least some kinda easy grind
-more customization options, like more hats and backpacks,
-make IVs passable from Hyper Training
-Move Tutors and give Bewear Drain Punch
-friend safari return or customizable summer villa that you buy plants and furniture that attract Pokemon you can battle/catch
Why do you hate Sun and moon so much????
so many flaws
In your eyes only
because i’m not a drooling mongoloid that sees it as some perfect game, it had flaws and i’m pointing them out
Those are you opinions though and I have my own opinion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77C2UBijyrw
> There’s no new “good” Ground types.
> Story takes too long to slog through.
> Grinding is too hard
> BP grinding is a drag
the dex is smaller and small dexes piss me off, i want variety, not just a series of Unique Pokemon
literally every Pokemon introduced has a gimmick
and i expect a fair amount of pokemon of each type to be honored, like Todgedemaru the only freaking Steel type that isn’t a reskin or legend
seriously you cannot honestly think that some types deserve less while others got more to work with
and the story was bleh at best, it had some interesting points but it fell apart right when things got good
Yeah, the uneven amount of types in the dex was sorta ridiculous.
i know right, like its just plain unfair
And legends and Variants do not count
I doubt 801 Pokemon can fit onto 4 tiny islands.
They could add more ice types fgs
Pff Global Warming denies your request.
General consensus is that the story is good; but it’s ok. You are entitled to thinking it is poor because of lack of “mature” elements that you may expect from Call of Duty games.
While I’ll agree with fuller teams and a more fleshed out Ulstra Space, I have to ask what is it about the story you don’t like? SuMo had an AMAZING story!!! It was so interesting, powerful, and heartwarming (I assume this is the sort you don’t like lol) and was over all well paced for the most part. A really solid game if you ask me lol
And Leech Seed being a move tutor move
Cant wait to see all of these new pokemon be in the end new alolan forms
This is so weird; not long ago, I stumbled upon a /vp/ thread that had an image of around 20 silhouettes, including potential Alola forms and fossil Pokemon. According to the posters, using reverse image search yielded no results, leading many to wonder where the image came from.
After so many curveballs were thrown at us during Sun and Moon, I’m willing to believe anything.
Would you happen to have a link? sounds intriguing
Who wants to bet that 10 of them are Ultra Beasts?
Who wants to bet that ALL of them at UBs? xD
I’d bet a small Nugget or two.
I could see that. Can’t imagine all for them will be UBs, but some for sure lol
I prefer not to bet.
Y’know, I wouldn’t mind that at all.
Here’s an idea. So in the run up to SuMo many of the rumors we got that actually had real stuff ended up getting some small things wrong like not having Alolan forms in the actual game. What if the leakers from those rumors actually had general info and assumed the forms would be in SuMo, but those forms were actually being held off from Stars? So in stars we could see Alolan Arcanine, Alakazam, and Dodrio. What people think?
Will we get that fighting type Arbok?
Though, I doubt we’ll get Alolan Alakazam, considering it already has a Mega and the vanilla Abra line is already in the Dex.
And the SS Anne!
That actually makes a ton of sense. I heard a rumor (I guess it’s a rumor) that GF was working simultaneously on SM and stars, and that a few months before release they stopped to focus on SM. It’s not that out of the question to think that the leakers may have had mixed info.
no more Aololan Forms, because of them i’ll never see my Mega Golem which becomes a spike boulder
and if we get more for god’s sake MAKE THEM PURELY ENVIRONMENTAL seriously the way they shoehorned BS reasons for changes
Ok so no more Alolan forms because you didn’t get what you wanted. Gotcha makes sense lol
i never said that, i’m saying make alola Forms actual environmental adaptations
so far the only ones that get a pass is Exeggutor, Ninetales and Snowslash (but i don’t agree on their secondary typing for the ice ones) and maybe Muk but only because i liked that they made it dark because of the chemical changes making its metabolism go haywire and causes it to violently eat everything in sight
but the rest are purely just reskins for lousy reasons,
Raticate living at night, Meowth being raised by royalty, Marowak becoming a Fire/Ghost type just because of Grass types (they still have water types to deal with too) and Diglett growing whiskers just to monitor above ground they’ve done that fine for years
They should have Magikarp and Gyarados covered in poison due to the water pollution.
that makes ZERO sense Magikarp live in polluted water all the time because of their severe hardiness, unless it was bathed in a pool of 1005 chemical waste then it would be a mutation
Then have the Vanish line be water types and all watery because of global warming.
they just melt back into vapor
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/e/ef/Snowless_Vanillite.png
Ok I will give you that. Better reason for the changes would be better. Most of them in my opinion are fine excuses, but I get what you’re saying. The only one I think they really got lazy about is Raichu’s excuse. They probably could have come up with a better reason than it eating pancakes lol
exactly if they made their reasons have more believable reasons i’d have no choice but to accept them, but they just stopped caring
I have to agree. I liked the idea of Regional variants when they were first announced,but they weren’t well executed at all.
Don’t forget Exeggutor unleashing its inner dragon
Alolan forms that arent based only of Kanto pokemon, i would like to see that
Agreed. I’d also like to see that. The idea of Alolan forms is so interesting. I’d love to see it spread to the other regional Pokémon
Going back to silhouette I was talking about, many assumed one of the shadows was an Alolan Gothitelle. It’s something.
I have some ideas for a few of the possible 20 new Pokemon:
1)A pokemon based off of a coconut. (Type- Grass/Fairy, Grass only, Grass/Water)
2) A thunderstorm Pokemon. (Type – Water/ELectric, Water/Flying, Electric/Flying)
3) Pokemon based off of a rainbow. (Type- Normal/Water, Water/Fairy, Fairy/Normal)
4) A Pokemon based off of a planet (gassy and rocky forms) (Type-Water/Rock, Water/Grass, Rock/Poison)
5) A Tiki Pokemon (Type – Rock/Ground, Rock/Fire)
6) Dolphin Pokemon (Type – Water/Fairy, Water, Water/Psychic)
7)Turkish Cat Pokemon (Type – Normal/Ground, Fairy/Rock, Grass/Ground, Dark/Fairy)
8) Dictator Pokemon (Type – Normal/Dark, Dark, Dark/Poison)
9) Gold Pokemon (Type – Ghost/Rock, Rock/Psychic)
10) Kimono Girl Pokemon (type – Ghost/Fairy, Ghost/Psychic)
11) Smoothie Pokemon (type – Grass/Water)
12) Hot Pepper Pokemon (type – Fire/Grass)
13) Instrument Pokemon (type – Steel/Psychic)
14) Carbink Evolution
15) Chatot Evolution
16) Buneary Pre-Evolution
17) Girafarig Evolution
18) Skarmory Pre-Evolution
19) Ghost Type Eeveelution
20) Disco Ball Pokemon (type – Steel/Ghost, Steel/Electric)
There are a few rumored Pokemon I wish came true, so here’s hoping.
We never did get that dolphin, did we?
Tapu Fini but not really, so nope we didn’t. I hope they also add a few more evolutions and pre-evolutions to older Pokemon, I loved when Game Freak did that.
Wasn’t Tapu Fini more of a marlin?
Also, I think the reason Game Freak moved away from evos/pre-evos was because of Gen 4.
Isn’t Lanturn a dolphin?
no? why would anyone think its a dolphin its clearly a fish
Dictator Pokemon tho. 😮
Leader Pokemon, Dictator Pokemon, anything around that.
But what would it look like?
Blond hair, a white-blue-red shirt, speaks in French.
Never mind that concept..
Dont we have enough with yungoose?
Yungoos evolves into a hard boiled detective. It won’t stop until it gets perp/dinner.
Forget my ida of the dictator getting to confusing now.
No, see, I’m steering away from anything politics related. That’s I’m reminding people that Gumshoos was based on the general idea of a detective, not a political figure that Game Freak could care less about.
Unless the sun sets
i have a coconut pokemon already and its way better
Cocojoe and Cocomando
Solider PKM
Grass/Fire
Skill Link/Sniper
a tiny wooden coconut Pokemon with a funnel like mouth and a coconut half on its heat with a tiny palm tree sprouting out, tiny cup like feet and no hands and their bodies have a camouflage pattern
“their bodies are filled with combustable gasses, by absorbing sunlight they can ignite their gasses and spit pellets over 60ft away’
then it evolves into Cocomando
Cocomando
The Mortar PKM
Grass/Fire
Skill Link/Sniper
a bigger more humanoid Pokemon with a large coconut for a face with a long tube on for a mouth, their helmet palm leaves get bigger and now have a bushy shoulderpads that they use to conceal themselves, they grow mitten like hands and their feet are still peg like cups
“tactical and precise, they lob hard shelled pellets at opponents that can explode, by igniting their internal gasses they spit fiery pellets strong enough to blow apart a train”
you could also have said that normally, without insulting someone’s ideas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2kbmUyBaM4
maybe she was talking aout mega evolutions.
We thought the same would happen with gen6, but it didn’t. And it won’t happen this time either
You need to belieeeeeeeeve
I stg if these are all UB’s that we just randomly catch out in the wild I will not be pleased, however I will accept new ultra beasts but I want them to have a story
What about Tapus
if they introduce another island down in the bottom left corner (like I have a hunch they will, there are too many clouds there) then I can see that, maybe a dark/fairy one with a similar colouring to their shinies, based on a bat
Or a Normal/Fairy based on a dove
I love that too
There’s only 4 islands.
If there’s going to be any new Pokemon, I would rather them be cross-gen evolutions
People are supposedly sick of cross gen evolutions.
Remember all the complaints about Gen 4?
I hate gen 4 but that was one of the things they did right in my eyes, the pokemon are top notch
Gen 4 will always have a special place in my heart and I am looking towards the inevitable remakes.
Im looking forward to a remake too, maybe they will fix most of the things I disliked about it, like a pacing and stuff
Didn’t Platinum fix a lot of the mistakes D & P made?
no
???? What? Yes it did. More fire types in the dex, better region design, better story, battle frontier, great post game, better pacing, new forms, like there was so much there that improved upon DP. Platinum is great
I love cross-gen evolutions! To this day, I still hope for a Carbink evolution that’ll link it with Diancie (not literally, just design-wise).
O_O
Yes
You and me are in the same corner my friend. I found DP such a drag…..It’s such a grind to get through (it took me a whole year to beat) and I found the rewards at the end less than worth it. I know people say Platinum is better, but DP already ruined it for me. I love the Pokemon and region in general, but the lack of diversity and slowness of the game made me hate it…lol
Gen 4 is the best gen imo even has my favorite starter(infernape) and I love ryphirior
In a perfect world: 5 New, 5 Evos, 5 Mega Evos, 5 Alolans.
No More Alolans. All of them except Ninetales,Sandslash and Exeggutor are terrible.
And I don’t see the new Alolans Pokémon getting evos.
Most of them already have high enough stats
They should just make a Mr Mime Alolan Form which is a woman.
How bout no
Ehh, I’ve made my feelings in the Starts rumors enough so I won’t bog people down with that. All I’ll throw in this time is that their have been some questions of Laura Kate Dales credibility with her leaks, given she has back peddled on some of her initial claims when information that contradicted her claims came out. We’ll see sooner or later what stars is, if it even is a thing, though honestly I can’t see GF really thinking its a good idea to gate 20 pokemon behind a roughly $300-500 dollar price wall, and on hardware that hasn’t proven successful over the 3DS which has.
Taking back claims and such doesn’t negate credibility IMO.
For me it does given she defended the point for so long and only verified her claim with a single source according to her, which seems a bit questionable.
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Well whether She is credible or not the rumors about Stars don’t originate from her so it really doesn’t matter. Imo stars is in fact a real project and will likely be announced by May of this year. And Like I’ve said I think the new Pokemon will likely just be new forms/megas. they’ve done game exclusive forms before and there isn’t anything stopping them from doing ti againlol
True they have done exclusive form before, though I think its just a bit excessive in this case. Demanding that people buy the newest pokemon game to have the new forms is fairly reasonable, but demanding people buy a new console along with a new game and any other things that they’ll need is a bit of an extreme jump in my eyes. Then again I’m the person who doesn’t think that stars, if real, would be a main series game, so who knows really.
They have to move onto the system at some point. There is no difference between them putting a new gen on the Switch and putting up a new gen 7 game. From what we’ve heard Stars will be a new story. That coupled with the possible new Pokemon/forms/megas is more than enough. The idea that people shouldn’t have to buy a new system in order to play a game is not a new idea, but it certainly is a silly one. Eventually everyone will have to buy a Switch if they want to play the newest games. That’s how this industry works. lol
Well yes,your right in one sense. If the switch is going to be the 3DS successor, then yes it has to be moved eventually, but the thing is Gamefreaks not usually the fastest to abandon old tech. Remember that gen five could have easily launched on the 3DS if they delayed the game in Japan, but they didn’t given the DS had far to many sales to take the gamble on some new tech that people might not buy into right away. The same can be said here. Before the holiday season the 3DS was sitting at about 60 million units sold, and that’s a pretty big market to cut out and assuming that everyone’s going to buy a switch at launch, and even then sales would still probably be less then putting it on the 3DS. What makes more sense is for them to eventually put it on the switch, but in a couple of years, after any shortages are taken care of, theirs a bulky enough library to justify the machine as more then a pokemon box, and Nintendo can meet the sudden demand, but again those are my opinions.
I will agree that GF is not typically one to jump to the next system right form the get go. I would say that’s partially due to their laziness tho. Back when they were developing gen 5 Iwata was making a push for them to develop a 3D game, but they basically said they wanted to stick to pixels as they were comfortable with them and didn’t want to do 3D. Iwata’s word obviously pushed them ultimately as gen 6 was in 3D. I would say that as times change they’re delay to the next system will become lesser and it’s very possible this time they are making the jump almost right away. As for staying on the 3DS I’d say that it’s over stayed it’s welcome at this point. I like the 3DS very much, but its tech is so outdated now. SuMo have pushed it to its limits and another game would be a waste on it. Each installment needs to offer something of an improvement, even just slightly. The 3DS really has nothing more to offer other than just being readily available.
True, and if you were only speaking on the OG 3DS, I’d agree, but we can’t denying there is that pretty big elephant in the room that is the New 3DS. The tech from that is still pretty good, and because of it you could see them getting another couple years out of the devise, at least in my mind, and because of it being a 1.5 device, their’s no need to not put it on the regular 3ds. it might run like crap on it, but as long as you allow it to and put a little tag on it saying best on the new 3ds, people really wouldn’t care.
But again time will tell with what we’ll see. Like I said I don’t think that Stars is going to be a main series game, much less a third version since they haven’t done one since Platinum. But we’ll see. Here’s to hoping what ever GF come up with turns out to be something successful.
but wouldn’t that be smart on their part? pokemon is going to sell no matter what and that will help push the console even more. I mean you don’t have to buy it, but nothing in life is free
In a sense, yes, but you could also say that Mario sells no matter what, which it does to a degree. The problem in my eyes is that Nintendo just made a huge push with the 3DS this last year, still has a strong lineup of games on the horizon, and trying to release a main series game at a new consoles launch might leave people feeling burned, more so if it turns out that the switch really doesn’t work well as a handheld device, or worse, isn’t intended to be Nintendo’s main handheld device, but that’s getting into a whole different debate.
Generally for me it just feels like a lot of this is things that people want to hear and thus believe, but when looking to GF and how they’ve handled pokemon, it leaves me skeptical.