As the Pokémon Sun and Moon datamine continues, miners have made a list of allowed Pokémon for the upcoming 2016/2017 VGC season.
| Allowed Pokémon | Banned Pokémon |
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**Additionally, mega stones will not be permitted in the 2016/2017 season.
What do you think about this meta? How many of your Pokémon will be illegible? Let us know in the comments!
This is gonna be a good VGC.
No Aegislash, Landorus, Amoongus, Heatran…and a bunch more.
But those UBs though…
No CHALK. No Primals. No Ubers. No Mega Mawile. No Mega Mence. No Mega Kanga (still a beast at 1.25x.) Thunder Wave and Paralysis nerfed. Talonflame nerfed to hell…
Those UBs yeah. Also we may need to wear sunglasses watching/playing VGC because of all the terrains!
I wish the Dex was at at least 400-450, 300 seems way too less. But it should work.
No Ludocolo and Kingdra for rain abuse either.
Yeh, I imagine most strategies will revolve around the Tapus and their terrains.
We’ll see. Kalos Dex was diverse enough, almost any Pokemon can do well.
I think hail, or at least Alolan Ninetales, will have a presence here.
Hail+Aurora Veil+Tapu Lele to protect A. Nintetales from Bullet Punch might be happening.
Rain Teams might be a thing though! Politoed is available, Araquanid and Toxapex and Scizor might appear. Tapu Fini to cancel Psychic Terrain so Scizor can Bullet Punch people left and right. Lanturn for Thunder.
I’m betting that Drizzle Pelipper with access to U-Turn, Hurricane, and Roost are more popular than Politoed.
Possible… but Politoed doesn’t have a 4x weakness. And this is the gen where staying on the ground might be a positive this time.
Still, Pelipper might be a not half bad option to consider for a non-terrain rain team and if not using Mantine. Or even both on a team since there’s a chance rain needs to be reset. (Opponent switches in Ninetales to remove rain, but Pelipper U-Turns to Politoed who puts the rain back.)
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I’m wondering, when it says things like “Rattata” does it mean both kinds?
As in Alolan forms and Regular Forms?
You can’t obtain Regular Rattata in the game at all, and iirc it needs to come from a copy of Sun and Moon so most likely you won’t be able to use Regulars
Ok but, consider when Bank is useable. If you transfer a Rattata and then Breed it, the egg will Hatch in Alola. Will THAT be Legal?
Obviously regular Raichu, Exeggutor and Marowak will be unobtainable.
Well as you’ve shown in the above method, regular (“Kanto”) formes can be bred in Alola now. I now wonder about the legality of that, because I can see competitive uses for non-Alolan Raichu.
Well yeah but the response was made before we knew that was a thing
And its still possible to ban Non Alolans, but I doubt it
I doubt they will make a complex ban like that, so I expect to see non-Alolans if they might perform better in teams (e.g. Drought Ninetales, post-bank)
Breeding a Non-Alolan with an Everstone will result in a Non-Alolan
https://twitter.com/KazoWAR/status/798036010764353536
Guess it stops both kinds of evolution, Darwinian and Pokémon.
I was just about to make a comment about this. Very happy about this! Now if only there is a way to obtain normal Raichu, Exeggutor, and Marowak.
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I’m not a competitive player so… meh
What?… What!… No no no no no
UB’s
Tapu’s
Should not be allowed
Yet then again Yes, No M-Kangaskahn and such
Why not. Most legendary pokemon are legal since their stats aren’t brokenly high. It was kind of assumed they would be legal once we knew their stats.
You actually are right IMO now I love this format
Actually, this gen is pretty balanced TBH.
The only real “quickban worthy” mons are Kartana and Pheramosa
The rest are either fair or already banned
Honestly I would probably knock Pheramosa off the ban worthy list as well given his terrible defensive stats. It might be strong and fast, but it seems all but guaranteed to be OHKO’ed by nearly anything in competitive play, and honestly given this generation’s favoring bulk over speed, it might honestly struggle in VGC.
I only listed Phero cause… well.., why does the damn thing get Quicer Dance
I’m also guessing Baton Pass Xurkitree will be banned too (or at least I REALLY hope so)
Karatana is a rough type match up for my tentative team. It single handedly is causing me to consider running Nature’s Madness / Tapu-Z on my Tapu Koko. Well that and Metagross.
Actually after taking another peak at Kartana’s SpDef… lol Yea that won’t be a problem.
What?! Azumaril and Diancie aren’t allowed?! How dare you GF! I wish you to lose your freedom of speech as a result, you cant’ be kidding! What censoring hogs.
I’m actually really glad Diancie isn’t… considering it’s recent buffs mega diancie would… well… be absolutely terrifying
Wait is this for the tournament r for the actual games? Please tell me it’s for a tournament because if it’s for the actual Sun/Moon I’m going to die.
Why would it be for SuMo. These are 2017 VGC rules
You won’t be able to get Diancie in SuMo until Bank is available anyway
Oh, ok. I thought this was for the actual game but then I realized “wait a second, the mascot legendaries are BANNED?!”
Good fucking riddance
This is supposed to be a new region
Not just use old stuff because it works region for wusses
The thing is though
A) It actually allows the Pokémon in the game to shine (Alola Dex, Alola Forms and Alolan Pokémon)
B) I’d argue Diancie and Azumarill are more censoring than GameFreak ever are
Oh never mind I thought it was for the actual game, not the VGC tournament.
Mythicals have never been legal in VGC anyway? So Diancie was never in the cards. And when Azumaril wasn’t in the Alolan Dex that was sorta the nail in that coffin.
What about the National Dex?
What about it?
So if we bring in Pokemon thats not included in th Alola dex…..what happens?
Nothing? GF, as they always do at the start of new generations, is making the regional dex the format for VGC. It effects no one other than people who want to play VGC. You can transfer over Diancie and Azumaril to SuMo when Bank opens. That has nothing to do with VGC.
National Dex doesn’t exist in this game, I know, weird.
Uh oh…
Does anyone know when you get an Adrenaline Orb in the game?
First Island.
Not sure when you can buy it, but I got it as an item in the overworld
Fun Fact.
Adrenaline Orb raises the speed of a pokemon if it’s intimadated.
I do like how it’s two functions in one rather than cluttering the bag with more items
EDIT: Also, thanks!
I saw one on the second island route 4
https://youtu.be/xguGMeEWhhs
New Trailer.
Umm those Diglett and Dugtrio’s pictures looked fake to me
I have a few questions about Trainer Customization for those who got the *ahem* “early access” game.
Is it possible for a male trainer to be shirtless? I personally prefer being shirtless myself, and when I saw the male trainer battling the Trial Wishiwashi school form in one of the trailers, I noticed he was shirtless but had the pokeride vest on for surfing and I couldn’t help but be hopeful. I was also wondering, are sandals or flip flops possible? And, finally, can I cosplay as Team Skull?
Anyone going to the VGC in London 9th-11th December?
UBs and Tapus are gonna dominate the meta I’m guessing. People might build their teams around Terrains sort of like Trick Room or Weather teams.
aww they let the UBs be in the tournaments……damn lol
their base stats are pretty high
Their BSTs aren’t that high but the distributions on some of them are insane.
So what about Island Scan pokemon? They are caught legally in Alola…