Greetings everyone, it is time again for the Mascot Pokémon Showdown! The winner of the last showdown was Rayquaza with a whooping 54%!
With this latest round we’ve finally arrived in Sinnoh. Introducing us to Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum, Generation IV released in 2006 in Japan and to the rest of the world in 2007. Whatever your opinions of this generation, these games shook up the series and came with a lot of new features, like the physical-special split, gender differences and the Underground.
Pokémon Diamond Version
On the cover of Pokémon Diamond is Dialga, the Temporal Pokémon. A big, blue, dinosaur-like creature with lots of metal on its body, it perfectly fits its Dragon/Steel typing. Using the diamond in the center of its chest plate, Dialga has complete control over time – it can speed it up, slow it down or stop it altogether. It lives in a completely different dimension, which is why people don’t get to study it.
Dialga is the only known Pokémon that can learn Roar of Time. No Pokémon has the same type combination and it’s the tallest Pokémon introduced in this generation. Its name may derive from ‘diamond‘, ‘dial‘ and ‘dragon‘.
Pokémon Pearl Version
Palkia, the Spatial Pokémon, was featured on Pokémon Pearl’s cover. A lilac theropod-shaped Pokémon with pearls in its shoulder plates, Palkia is said to deform space and it can even create alternate realities. Like Dialga, it lives in a different dimension.
There is no other known Pokémon other than Palkia that knows Spacial Rend. Its name probably comes from ‘pāru’, meaning pearl in Japanese.
Pokémon Platinum Version
Pokémon Platinum featured Giratina, the Renegade Pokémon. With its two forms, the Altered Form and the Origin Form, it is the last member of the creation trio of Sinnoh. Giratina is able to travel through the dimensions created by Dialga and Palkia. It resides in its own world, called the Distortion World.
Giratina‘s signature move is a Ghost-type move called Shadow Force. It has the highest base stat total of all Ghost-type Pokémon and the highest HP stat of all Legendary and Dragon Pokémon. Its name comes from ‘girasol‘ (‘a red opal’), ‘guillotine‘ or ‘girare‘ (Italian for ‘to wander around’) and ‘purachina‘ (プラチナ, Japanese for ‘platinum’).
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Gotta be my boy Dialga.
Dragon/Steel
Complete control over time itself…
Looks absolutely amazing
Did I mention Dragon/Steel. If only Kommo-o got that typing.
If only it had a better ability and signature move. Really got shafted compared to Palkias Spacial Rend
Giratina forever once of the coolest Legendaries
Giratina, because I don’t know, why not?
I vote for Giratina, it has the coolest typing and design.
lol i love how collectively everyone doesn’t like Palkia.
Did anybody else have those special Diamond and Pearl DS styluses from pre-ordering the games at Target? The ones that had Dialga and Palkia as toppers? Because those were one of the coolest pre-order bonuses I ever got my hands on, but I lost them somewhere, somehow. 🙁
Lol… I was going to say the same. Palkia.. who?
And yes I got it… I remember being embarrassed picking it up..
But enjoyed it when I got home ?
No but I do have a stylus with a turtwig on the end of it.
Not really relevant but still.
I have ones with Zekrom and Reshiram
I gave my turtwig a “haircut” when I was 8 by chewing off its twig lol.
Damn. No love for Palkia. :/ I personally prefered it over Dialga. But hands down Giratina is my favorite of the trio. My thoughts are. Fuck time. Control over space means i can MAKE WORMHOLES! Well perhaps not that but i personally see the benefits of Both. Not as keen on Dialga cus… Butt crown and Pope hat head? They just looked like… weird Design Choices to me… To me… Palkia looks like a Sleek Dragon that you could SEE moving through the Water. I’ll admit its shoulder pad things look wonkey as hell but I like the rest of it.
I like Palkia but I love Dialga more
I have the dialga one! But I haven’t seen it in a while :/ I’m not sure if I lost it or have simply stored it with my figures, but I’m pretty sure it’s the latter. Hope you find yours!
I still have mine! I still use it from time to time but it sits in my pencil jar on my desk!
So… Giratina is only special because it can travel to places it didn’t even create? :/
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the only answer
Love Palkia. Awesome cry, awesome appearance, and it gets Spacial Rend.
Giratina is my favorite legend so of course im voting for it.
Did anyone REALLY think the Ghost Dragon wasn’t going to win, I mean, I went to my mom who knows NOTHING about Pokemon and when I said “Time Dragon, Space Dragon, and Ghost Dragon” she went, “Ooooooo Ghost Dragon!”
See what I mean, you can’t beat something that sounds cool like “Ghost Dragon”
That’s a unique typing right? We should get another one IMO.
Well if there ever happens to be a Dragon-Fairy or a Dragon-Ice I’m sure they’ll also get popularity.
M-Altaria and Kyurem would like a word.
Sure he meant to say “good” versions 😉
Mega Altaria was great. Last I checked it was OU…
Tell them to fall off a cliff!
Dragon-fairy
Dragon-steel
Dragon-ghost
Dragon-ice
Dragon-psychic
Dragon-bug
Dragon-rock
Dragon-grass
All need to happen ASAP!!!! Even if we already have one, we need moaaaaar!!!
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I thought that gender differences showed up in gen 2?
Genders did, not gender differences, like Lipstick mouthed female Wobuffet.
Hands down the Pokemon of Gravity is my Bae~ Gotta love Giratina. And no. Giratina is not Dark matter.
Technically it represents anti-matter
Thank you for pointing out my mistake of saying Dark Matter instead of Anti-matter.
While
that was what Cynthia said in the Game. it has been Postulated that she
doesn’t know everything about the Legendary Trio. Also if Giratina DID
actually Represent Anti-matter. The Distortion would would have exploded
when the character entered, and Giratina would have destroyed the
pokemon world when coming into contact with the air around it in the
Anime. In the Distortion world All the land masses seem to have their
own Gravity, even the Water. And yes i got this from a youtube video on
the subject and Frankly… It all makes more sense that Giratina would
be the pokemon of Gravity as opposed to Anti-matter. If Anti-matter had a
Quality known for warping Time and Space like Gravity does rather then
making Matter it comes in contact with Cease to be in a SPECTACULARLY
Destructive show of force… Then i would consider Giratina the pokemon
of Anti-matter. But as it stands it seems more likely to me that
Giratina is the pokemon of Gravity. That is my own personal theory based on evidence provided by said youtube video. Its up to you to think what you want.
Where are all mah homies at
I just hit up the NYC Nintendo Superstore
Dialga is the best in my opinion, and shiny Dialga looks really awesome.
Yet Palkia’s shiny is also pretty cool.
Its probably pretty obvious that my vote goes to Dialga given my love for steel, but honestly what clenches it for me is the fact that it was the only one of the three that ever acted friendly towards Ash in the Anime Movies. Like the other two probably tolerated Ash or ignored him, but Dialga actively knew that Ash was his side, which I always thought was kinda cool.
Who wants Gen 4 remake in 2017, anyone?
I think most of us are just expecting it at this point.
I think it would be awesome. What I really want are to have the Gen 4 starters to have something like mega evolution, if not a mega evolution, specifically because I think Turtwig is cool yet Torterra is ugly(in my opinion of course).
Hi have a disturbing feeling that they’ll only get exclusive Z-move
I wonder if there will even be z-moves in games after Pokemon Sun and Moon. I don’t know. It has a very tropical feel(I don’t think that’s the right way to put it) and that makes me think that it might be an lolan region only thing. Yet if Cynthia is the Alola region she might bring the whole idea over to Sinnoh. Who knows?
We might see Z-moves in Gen 4 remakes, since megas are not a thing anymore, and i don’t know if megas will return in Gen 4 remake
I wouldn’t be so bold to say megas are no longer a thing. The Dev’s have openly said that they benched megas this game to focus on Z-moves, but were more then open to bring them back in the future, as well as hinting that they did have Mega Flygon in the works.
FLYBOI!
Lord I just want a fire/psychic mega infernape. All of its physical power gets transferred to its mind and it becomes a mental powerhouse
Give the gem 4 starters mega evolutions in the remakes please GF, it’s only fair. Plus they need to breathe more life into Megan’s since they kinda abandoned the whole thing this time around
Yes!!
Make that 2018 and you got a deal.
Definitely want that, hopefully for the 3DS.
I can’t decide if I want it in 2017 or 2018 but I REALLY REALLY FUCKING WANT IT!!!
FINALLY GOT MY SHINY MIMEY
Good Luck 🙂
ty. probly goin back to egg hatchin for ponyta
Sense as of now Giratina has won 54% of the votes and Rayquaza won with 54% of the votes, who do you think is the better legendary? Rayquaza or Giratina.
articuno. too bad it’s shiny isn’t better. but playing by the rules I’d say the latter but only cuz I’m partial to ghosts
Dialga should win Giratina is nothing in comparison
Despite what people think about design, Giratina is probably the best of the trio competitivly…
Giratina is really cool in that it is a stop to Extreme Speed Arceus. Also one of the few Pokemon to get Defog in Ubers. However Gen 6 was not kind to it as both Xerneas and Yveltal beat it easily.
Dialga has the advantage of have an amazing defensive typing (Steel makes it neutral to Ice, Dragon and Fairy), with crazy attack potential. Also gets Rocks.
Palkia is in my opinion the weakest. It’s main use was to counter Kyogre before Kyogre got the biggest nerf ever called Primal Groudon.
Dialga it’s the best
I agree
agreed 🙂
Wait, wait…Pokemon with abilities like storm drain or water absorb are immune to Primarina water perish song…This means they could make an interesting combo.
Has it been proven they are immune?
Ghost types are not immune to the Normal Perish Song.
What’s the point of sound moves being water if there’s no water in them? So it’s like Primarina sounds becomes like bubbles and Pokemon with storm drain and water absorb can absorb them.
There is no point. it’s a terrible ability.
Like Magician on Delphox
Actually, it’s pretty good. You can make a tema with a water absorber, so you don’t have to swith it.
Lusamine woah
(i actually did this one not that steven universe one from yesterday0
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SUTA PURACHINA!
Wow Giratina is leading with a 54% right now, that stinks!
Get lost, Giratina is awesome!
I hope there’s some Pokemon college so despite it having no popularity whatsoever, Palkia wins! (reference to a recent event which makes no sense either)
Pyuku mourning train?
(technically) Seven Ultra beasts
One is named Gluttony
Anyone who believes the seven deadly sin representation theory of the beasts is gonna have fun
Don’t say that in my presence……
Okeey
Can we PLEAAASE make Ice both beat and resist water and also resist flying? IT WOULD MAKE IT SO MUCH MORE USABLE
Ice is already pretty much fine offensively. Defensively it needs the boost.
This is a tough one… they’re all unique and wonderful to me… This might take some time…
Dialga is the most Deer-like of the 3.
Ya girl/hell demon dragon/girl Giratina
I know i’m voting for girly tina over here
So my mum thought I was going to run away XD
.-.
why..??
Basically
1) I’ve been cleaning all weekend so my room looks like I’d taken things with me when they were in black bags
2) My wardrobe was nearly empty, because I’d been throwing clothes into black bags (side note: so glad I’m getting money this week to go clothes and shoe shopping)
3) I was at my cousins but forgot to take my phone charger, so when my phone ran out and she rang me to ask where I was I seemed unresponsive
I voted for Giratina
Welp… minor spoiler… Gladion is just as edgy as we all hoped/dreaded
YYYYAAAAYYYY!!!!
Yep XD https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6cd716a813bc25574d2bbd4eefb47ad9d93857017ed70ab4e7e72a8c71ea2785.jpg
JESUS THE BURNS https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/eef3a40ab62f6e94419caa15cbd128850cd16485d962b2b30d1a1cfa493e2352.jpg
So I just realised that if UB-02 had a gender it’d probably be female
Giratina > Dialga > Palkia.
All 3 are wonderful Pokemon with amazing designs, I ended up voting for Dialga though I was tempted to vote Palkia tbh the main reason is because Pearl was my first game of 4th gen and usually the mascots on the games I start with they’re normally the ones I lean towards more, doesn’t mean I like the others any less this one just speaks out to me more
I wonder how the Gen 5 Mascots will turn out with Zekrom, Reshiram, and the two Kyurem forms. I personally really like Zekrom and Dragon/Electric is such a cool typing. Out of Gen 4 I went with Giratina simply since I like its design the most and also it’s typing is neato.
What is your favorite new feature introduced in sun and moon?, mine is pokeride 🙂
I’d have to agree on that one! Not having to use an HM slave means I get to pick more of my favorites. Glad they did away with it!
all HM slaves will realize their full potential!
I’ll know properly when I play it, Pokéride seems great though.
Too many to count. I’ll list just a few, can’t really narrow it down.
– Trainer models in battle
– Battle Royale? (They look fun but it’s too early to tell, they may very well be a disaster
– QR scanner
Totem Pokemon.
Where is the Dialga love???!??!?
To the people who know everything about the games: how many hours of gameplay do we have? (not counting post-game). And is there a good post-game? (no spoileeers)
Can anyone do me a really high favour and answer any of these questions?
1) What do all the Pikachu hats do?
2) When can we use the QR to find non-Alolan Pokémon?
3) Do we have a list of QR Pokémon?
1. I don’t know.
2. Yes.
3. I believe so, but I don’t know where it is.
I don’t understand your answer to 2), I was asking when we can use it not if XD
Oh. I thought you asked IF we could lol.
I don’t know about that sorry.
It’s alright, thanks for answering anyway!
How exactly does this QR stuff work anyways? Does anyone know?
You scan any QR code, which then shows you a silhouette of a Pokemon and tells you where it is, and then you can go catch it.
It can be any Pokemon (minus Legendaries probably), even fully evolved Pokemon and starters.
But that would only really be effective in the post-game right? Because if I want, say, Jangmo-o while still on Melemele, I can’t just scan its QR and get one right?
I don’t know lol
Actually I’m pretty sure its a specific list of certain Pokémon, from different stages in their lines (Johto Starters in their first forms, Marill, Duosion)
Where did you hear that? O_o
I saw a list on Smogon but I lost it
Hmm, I guess we’ll find out lol.
I just had a thought: what Pokemon game do you think will release in 2017? I don’t think we’ll have another off year, even though it could definitely happen, but at the same time I don’t know what we’d get. As much as I’d love them, it seems a tad early for DP remakes, so my honest guess is a 3rd/3rd and 4th sequels to SM.
Emerald remake
Hype.
nah
Emerald remake without battle frontier, of course.
Why would you remake the worst Gen twice?
You’re right, they’d never remake gen 1 again.
Cos the alternative is remaking an even worse gen
You can’t get worse than worst but nice try
If it even worse than the worst then that really say something doesn’t it.
Yeah, it means the person saying it’s worse than the worst has no concept of the word ‘worst’
Dp remakes without question. Third versions are long dead now and after the failure that was BW 2 they’ll probably never touch direct squeals again.
Man, I really want an Eclipse version though
And people wanted Grey and Z, but they didn’t happen, and its not likely to happen again. Really theirs no need for a third version in an area where they can just patch the game on a whim.
It’s highly unlikely that GF will ever patch a game in that sense.
True, but I mean more for fixing things, which is what the third games largely did. Fixing little bugs or re-balancing the game to be a better experience, which they can do if they wished to.
Third version was mostly for story fix and version exclusives though
Yeah, no
You can’t just patch a while new version of the story in with Necrozma involved and you can’t just patch the other inevitable changes
Still don’t think they’ll happen though
I didn’t mean story, I meant more along the lines of fixing small mechanical issues people had with the game, like the horrific surf speed issues of DP that were fixed with Platinum.
Everyone says sequels / third versions will never happen again. I say we’re gonna get a third version and it’s a sequel!
Hmm. IMO if the next game is a DP remake then 2017 will be an off year.
I dunno, there was no gaps between Platinum and HGSS, as well as with XY and ORAS
And I feel off year/on year/off year is a bit weird
FRLG -> HGSS was 6 years.
HGSS -> ORAS was 4 years.
Anything can change but it just seems unlikely this soon.
Yeah but that’s because Gens have gotten shorter
They’re not going to just to skip out a financial year after skipping another just to satisfy a pattern when it’s obvious why it would change
That’s true. Pattern has often meant nothing with Pokemon, but I just have a feeling that they’re going to do something crazy.
After all, they’ve said they don’t like being predictable.
Watch them pull something crazy and suddenly give us Pokemon Z, or another new Kalos game. xD
My hopes in order of how I think or want it
1. D&P remake
2. Sun & Moon remake
3. Pokémon Green and Blue 3rd remake
4. No main stream game just things like Conquest2 or something
5.Gen. 8
6. X&Y remake
BW remakes would come before XY remakes would.
Yes I would rather those remakes than XY
Another thing, was ORAS the latest announcement time in a year for a game that released in the same year?
For a main-series game, off the top of my head I believe so.
Interesting.
Just noticed
Gen IV-10 Year Anniversary
Gen VII-20 Year Anniversary
If we get remakes, then it really is a double celebration of Pokémon’s history. It’s also cool as Sinnoh was the end of an era (regions in the same country, Pokémon models weren’t animated, some of Pokémon’s biggest changes happened after it) whilst Gen VII is a culmination of ideas
Also, can’t wait to hear people’s Gen IV Confirmed evidence, there’s already one huge piece called Silvally
What now?
Here’s an interesting one.
————–
XY gifted Torchic (a hoenn Pokemon) to players for the first few months.
The same generation we got hoenn remakes
SM is gifting munchlax (a sinnoh Pokemon) to players for the first few months.
I’m sure you can connect the dots.
xD
Yes Yes Sinnoh CONFIRMED!!!!!!!!!!!!
Another thing: blazikenite was event only until hoenn remakes, and snorlium z is event only for now…
I mean the most blatant piece of evidence is Masuda saying they still wanna make remakes.
I’m about 99% sure Sinnoh remakes are happening, I’m just not sure when they’re happening, or even when I want them to happen. If they were announced next year for the 3DS I’d lose my shit…however that would mean they’d be on a piece of hardware that’s already seeming a bit dated, and might run the risk of being forgotten quickly when the new hardware comes up – like poor BW2. However the hungry fangirl part of me doesn’t wanna wait years for them to show up on a new console 🙁
BW2 aren’t forgotten though? They’re quite popular if you don’t count Star
I don’t mean by the fanbase, I meant by Nintendo and Gamefreak. BW2 were released to a Japanese audience during summer, and and the rest of the world got them in October. Then in January, BAM, XY announced, and all attention focused to the upcoming generation of games on the new hardware. They had roughly 6 months in the prime spotlight – that was it. Online support for BW2 also really did not last long before the older servers were taken down. They were a beautiful swan song for the DS, but a swan song nonetheless.
There was still a year between them though, just like nearly ever other Pokémon game. For example, HGSS and BW
Just realized does anyone remember the live action movie of Detective Pikachu?
It’s still coming I think?
Yeah but I looked into it production (meaning they start making it then) next year meaning knowing work they may put into it… it may come 2018 or even 2019
Here’s a list of Pokémon not in the Alola Dex that can be obtained via Island Scans
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Note:
-They’re all three staged
-It doesn’t look too much but it’s 80+ Pokémon, strongly hinting at remakes
This isn’t correct. I saw somebody get an Emboar with QR scans.
Emboar is number 5
Oh lol.
Like it’s literally right there XD
EELEKTROSS
What is an island scan?
This somewhat kills my hype for the QR scanner. I was hoping that it would help get the complete national dex. :/
That’s 381+ Pokémon from SuMo alone though
And remakes have more Pokémon than first games anyway
Gen 4 starters aren’t there…
HMM I WONDER WHY?
Oooooooh. I bet if the remakes don’t come out next year then VGC 2018 is Alola Dex + these 80-ish + Megas
Honestly I feel…
Electric needs more physical attacks
Ice needs an entire rework
Ghost needs to beat something different than what dark beats
Steel needs more special attacks
-Fairy needs more Pysical moves
-Rock needs something more to it so its less dull like some speed
-Ghost needs more advantages
-Fairy should be given a weakness to fire, or at least something else as a weakness.
-Ground and Rock should become one unified type.
-Grass should lose its weakness to Flying.
Please no
Poison was already outclassed by Fire until Gen VI, it doesn’t need to be outclassed again
Bug and ice should have resistance to fairy
….in hindsight… it should have been obvious that Z wasn’t coming but rather gen 7… there were a lot more hints than I realized…
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Its all come together !??? really GF , those are the only characters they bring compare to BW2 , I hope SM have sequel.
Who’s next to Corless and How dare you reveal that!!!!!!!!
And inbetween Wally and Cynthia???
That’s who’s inbetween Wally am Cynthia.
Next to Colress is actually Grimsley.
Oh why only him why not Shauntal? I wonder
Idk lol
Anabel
Oh Ok and in between Wally and Cynthia?
dude spoilers, mark them
Anabel <3
It’s not optimal, I know, but why can’t we try to be optimistic and look at all of the amazing things the game brought us rather than looking at one of its few flaws?
The thing is though for all the Gym Leaders and Champions sans Hoenn’s they just reused sprites
Here they’ve created all these 3D models from scratch, and seem to of polished Wally’s
Not only the challenger screen models, but in battle models as well.
At this point I’m just happy it wasn’t the maison.
Are the Tapus allowed in regular tournaments? Cause umm Alolan Raichu and Tapu Koko will destroy!!!!!!
Yea they’ll be allowed in VGC though we don’t technically know all isn’t allowed yet. But my guess is none of the following:
Solgaleo & Lunaala (confirmed)
Zygarde (confirmed?)
Psychic-type black diamond thing
Magearna (confirmed)
Marshadow
Actual freaking message I got on Tumblr:
“Are you a Bulbasaur because you’re number one!”
I think they are flirting with you
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Are you Victini? Because you’ll never amount to anything!
Are you a Pikachu? Because I want to drag you down and keep you from reaching your true potential as a person!
Am I a Raichu? Because I’m more unloved than what’s supposed to be unloved (Mimikyu).
Eh, that was weak, I just was having trouble thinking of something.
Are you a Gardevoir or Lopunny cause you seem like a total gender trap.
http://i.makeagif.com/media/2-07-2015/haoRgW.gif
What??
Wait did it offend you? If it did I’m sorry I mean no rudeness
It was just kinda weird??
I’m sorry I couldn’t think of a better one So I made one out of whatever I could think of
Lololol,
3 questions about Anabel
Y she’s no longer psychic specialist?
Y she grow up while Wally is not and both of them from Hoenn?
Y she is damin cute?
Who’s Annabel again I don’t remember?
Frontier Brain from Emerald. In the anime she pretty blatantly flirted with Ash.
Ok That’s making sense to me
She wanted the D
I hate this asshole more now.
Um…Am I the asshole? Sorry man.
I was Implying Ash.
Blame the writers of the show, not ash he is innocence
Ah. Could have been worded a bit better, but I see what you mean. Though don’t blame Ash man. A girl likes what she likes, and she saw something she liked in Ash.
Chill bro. No hatin’ in the PokéJungle
http://www.serebii.net/anime/NextOn/446-i.jpg But she is different now.
Ohhhhh
She is soo cute omg
Dazzling Requiem now presents
Sinnoh Confirmed!
1) Island Scans: Can be used to obtain the Unova and Johto Starters. Hoenn, Kalos and Kanto starters are all available easily on 3DS due to XYORAS. Alola Starters are obviously there. So, all starters sans Johto and Unova are forced on you on 3DS at some point, whereas Johto and Unova are easily accessed due to ORAS and XYORAS.
The only starters not repeated or mandatory on 3DS? Sinnoh!
Also, Sinnoh has the least Pokémon in Island Scans not counting cross Gen evos, and even with them has the least Pokémon there out of any games that can realistically be remade this Gen (basically itself and Kanto)
2) Team Skull: Use blue and pinkish/purple in their backgrounds.
3) PokéDex: Sinnoh has the least amount of Pokémon in the Alola Dex out of all realistically to be remade Gens, and the least overall all if you only count original Sinnoh lines (no cross Gen evos)
4) Silvally with its RKS System, pallets changes and type changing signature moves, and its inhibitor helmet is obviously based off of Arceus
5) Arceus got a buff to Multitype, it now works with Z-Crystals along with plates (but Crystals don’t change the type of Judgement)
Spoilers on the Null/Silvally Origin Story
6) Its creators went to Canalave City Library for research
Spoilers on Ultra Beasts
7) They’re extradimensional Pokémon, just like the Creation Trio and Arceus. Are these Pokémon also Ultra Beasts of some sort?
Huge spoilers on plot and certain characters
8) Lusamine and Cyrus are opposites. Lusamine’s love drives her to her limits, whereas Cyrus’ lack of it leads to his ambition. Lusamine is content on having a world to herself, Cyrus wants to force his world on others. Lusamine gladly goes to another world, Cyrus is forced there.
Following on from the Eighth point, so huge spoilers
9) Lusamine and Cyrus have their climactic battles in an other dimension after previously fighting them in their bases.
10) Munchlax, a Sinnoh Pokémon, is being distributed similar to Torchic last Gen (noted by Ithsme)
Point 2 is super weak. 😛
But all of the others are awesome, I hope this ends up being the case!
There was weak points in everyone’s Gen 3 confirmed theories tho :p
¯_(ツ)_/¯
So many spoilers in the comments PEOPLE REALLY. I think Dazzling Requiem is the only one who thinks about the people who haven’t watched the pokemon international videos
I’ve been doodling random stuff all day I need something to draw for real because that Lusamine wasn’t good enough
Hmm.
Draw Anabel.
omg it was so obvious this whole time
Is it true that Gens 1 – 5 and Gens 6 & 7 take place in different dimensions? Or is that just highly speculated?
Canon
No no no. The remakes and the originals are different. Gen 5 and 4 is still canon though. its weird
No, the games with Mega evolution and the games without are different universes.
The stuff with Anabel in the post game make me feel this is true.
EDIT IM SO SORRY FOR MESSING THAT UP
Wait but like, gens 1-5 still had to happen because Red and Blue, Cynthia referencing Giratina and Dawn/Lucas in Black and White, the grunt from G/S/C settling down in B/W, and Colress being referenced in Gen 6
Yes they all appeared to have happened, but likely happened with slight divergences and bigger differences such as a lack of Mega Evolution and Infinity Energy
They did happen, but in different universes. Basically the events in both universes are largely the same, but the key difference was in one universe mega evolution was created, and in another it wasn’t. This then meant that events played out largely the same, but small differences did occur. Like Archie having a mega pokemon, or team plasma researching something similar to mega evolution despite having no idea how to access its power.
It’s a bit convoluted.
Gens 1-5 still happened with the same events, but just with mega evolution.
Meaning this Red and this Blue aren’t the same as the ones in RBY/HGSS/BW2, just a counterpart where the only difference is mega evolution.
God this is so dumb
Multiverses are all the rage Star
I hate it so much.
It’s clear that the whole story of generation 6 and the “ultimate weapon” thing wasn’t planned out well.
Why couldn’t they have just added mega evolution without splitting off the timeline? They didn’t need to at all.
I mean not really
Added story potential and explains why Megas weren’t in past games
Also it’d be dumb if they didn’t do it seeing as we have time and space travelling Pokémon
They could’ve just said it was recently discovered or recently made possible to use. Maybe only certain people could get ahold of it hence why Steven would have it years before
The thing is though they wanted it to be an ancient technique for story purposes
As well as the fact that there’s still the point that it allows way more creative freedom which is good for content creators
I imagine all the remakes are in a different universe
All remakes from now on Definetley are going to be since they will feature mega evolution
Two timelines
Mega Timeline (AZ fires his weapon successfully, which creates Mega Evolution and ends the war, leads to the discovery of Infinity Energy and advances technology faster)
Original Timeline (AZ doesn’t successfully fire the weapon and doesn’t create Mega Evolution or lead to the discovery of Infinity Energy)
They both follow the same rough Timeline, it seems
Kanto/Hoenn > Johto and Kanto/Sinnoh > Unova > Unova/Kalos > Alola
For example, Red and Blue in these games will of came from the Mega version of Kanto
So do we know yet if Vulpix and Ninetales are exclusive to Sun or Moon, cause I gotta work my teams out depending on what version they are on… I don’t like trades Pokémon on my team…
Pretty sure they’re in Sun
They seriously just need to pull a Zelda and create an official timeline. Regardless of the fact that, like Zelda, they were never technically made with a timeline in mind. And regardless of your feelings towards the quality of the Zelda timeline, it’s nice having it.
They made one for XY’s release, but it hasn’t been updated since.
Link?
This was tweeted out, the picture was just added.
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See to me this makes it seem like just RBY / RSE then GSC are the only games in the alternate timeline.
The equals sign means they take place at around the same time.
I’m aware. I’m saying I don’t think it’s as simple as saying Gens 1 – 5 are one universe and Gens 6 & 7 are another. To me it makes more sense that:
Universe A:
Red + Blue = RSE
GSC = DPP
BW
B2W2
Universe B:
FRLG = ORAS
HGSS = DP remakes
BW remake
B2W2 remake = XY
SuMo
FRLG and HGSS don’t have Infinity Energy and Megas
Ergo ain’t a part of that timeline
What’s infinity energy?
And if we’re pointing out shit that makes no since then ORAS has Megas in the same timeline that Kalos doesn’t discover it till 6ish years later. So why can’t Kanto and Sinnoh also just be behind the times?
Kanto & Johto****
Kalos didn’t ‘just discover’ it though, they’ve had it for thousands of years, as did Hoenn.
Infinity Energy is life force energy and its why the Mega Evolution universe can open wormholes to dispose of meteors whilst the Original universe couldn’t
You haven’t played XY recently then homie. Sure it existed, but half the plot revolves around player character confirming it’s real.
If you really think that’s what the plot is, pot kettle black.
It’s not confirming its real at all
It’s studying and getting more info on it, why would you need to prove its real when Sycamore (literally studies it) literally gives you a Mega Stone and Shalour has a whole a tower dedicated to it? It’s just that most people don’t see it first hand, but multiple characters know it exists but don’t have much knowledge on it
Hence why you’re studying it
Nope, because the divergence point is Infinity Energy and Mega Evolution
Which only two of those game pairs have
They’re just referring to the rough series of events in each timeline
Finally home from the city
What are you bungholes up to?
Discussing the timeline and likelihood of DPP remakes and third versions/sequels.
That too
Mental deterioration
drawing Anabel
From?
…Pokemon?
Brain fart like maybe a pic or wiki I’m like totally exhausted been out since 10am
It’s good fam
Oooooooh Little miss mister psychic face
I remember she had an illegal Espeon
She was introduced in Emerald though
Where Zap Cannon was no longer a TM
Some cute Sinnoh-Alola ties that are probably just coincidences for different reasons
1) Cynthia’s name refers to the moon, and Cyrus’ refers to the sun. This is only a coincidence however, as their Japanese names don’t refer them.
2) Diamond Head and Pearl Harbour are real places in Hawaii. However, they are most likely just coincidences due to them probably not picking a whole region on a small reference. Funnily enough, both are on Oahu, the basis for the starting island, Melemele (which seems to reference DH and PH through Ten Carat Hill and Hau’oli Marina)
Giratina is mah man
You are spectacular
Sorry Dialga. I like your design and typing, but you’re just not as cool as the grumpy Cthulhu beast from the messed up flipside dimension.
Just realised how similar the Lake and Island Guardians are
I smell a remake even more now
Lake guardians were meh IMO, they were way too similar to me.
Island guardians on the other hand look amazing!
They were all wanna be Mews
Think about it though
They all look similar to others of their group (Tapu look more different though)
Shared typing
defended their region from (a) Pokémon from another dimension
– Generation 1 to 5: follows and creates a plausible and fairly substantiated timeline
– Generation 6 to 7: introduce Infinity Energy, AZOTH, Ultra Beasts, Mega-Evolution, alchemy, and multi-dimensions, multi-universes, and parallel universes
– Mega Universe: OR/AS Hoenn, X/Y Kalos, Alola, and remake of Sinnoh (it’s coming)
– Original Universe: R/B/G up to B2/W2
– Parallel Universes would explain the remakes and some remakes fall under the non-Mega Evolution universe and some under the Mega Evolution universe
I have to go with Palkia
I like the design
It’s cry is very appropriate while Dialga sounds like a T. rex baby getting its tail in the car door
Also pearl was my first Pokemon game I religiously checked online sites for information
I checked Serebii everyday since
People are treating alternate timelines as if XY introduced them (but they introduced the most important timeline(s))
BW did
How so?
Black City/White Forest
Opelucid City
One guy literally asks you for a Pokémon with charge from ‘another world’
Yeah but that was fine because it was sorta accepted as both versions (Black or White) were different timelines
Yeah but like why isn’t it acceptable for a new one if it was acceptable back then?
Ok so like, you have an apple. And you cut that apple in two right? That’s fine. Then you start cutting those apple slices into tinier apples and now what do you got? A bunch of tiny apple slices all over the floor and your wife left you four years ago and haven’t really fully recovered.
Point is it just needlessly over complicates things
It’s not complicated at all lol
Timeline 1) Mega
Timeline 2) No Mega
But then where do the remakes fall in to that?
ORAS-Mega Timeline
Other emakes could easily be separate timelines just as Gold, Silver and Crystal all aredifferent timelines
In fact, one could argue every single save file is a different time line
This literally makes no sense. Can GF just retcon Mega Evolution instead?
I’m sorry but how the heck is it so hard to get
Every decision makes a different timeline, some decisions can make bigger changes between timelines (AZ firing the weapon or not)
And its better than wrecking your canon
Oh yea dur. OH OH THEORY then. White and White 2 take place in old timeline with less advanced science. And Black and Black 2 take place in Mega timeline.
We really need a comprehensive timeline. After everything that’s happened with X/Y, OR/AS, and S/M, the timeline’s been effed up.
Sorry for the onslaught of posts but I was a Sinnoh child and I’m hyped af for SuMo and potential remakes
(Spoiler, but only if you don’t know what Ultra Beasts are)
What if Arceus and the Creation Trio are Ultra Beasts or some variation?
SENO CUNFRM
I think so too and makes you wonder how many of the legends are actually not Ultra Beasts.
Depends on what qualifies as an UB. Also I’m more privy to Arceus just being god.
Tbh I do feel Arceus is the creator but I feel more that it can just create matter rather than just control all and be omnipotent and omniscient
Just too many possibilities on what makes a legend and what makes an ultra beast
But one thing is….what if there’s more….
It’s really simple though
Legendary-Extremely powerful, but from this dimension or one of its parallel timelines
Ultra Beast-From another dimension.
Ikr ,one of the best generation iam eagar for the remakes
Well, if necrozma, thought to be an ultra beast, is a legendary pokemon, then it could work the other way around.
Actually (spoilers about Necrozma, UBs and Solgaleo/Lunala
Lunala and Solgaleo are Ultra Beasts and thus Necrozma is likely also an Ultra Beast, just a different kind as it is said to come from another world and is said to be connected to them
Pokemon Hierarchy:
– Arcues = God
– Angels = Ultra Beasts
– Guardians = Legendary Pokemon
– Creations = Pokemon
Who created humans? 0_0
Bidoof of course.
99% sure the Lake Guardians created humans.
Also you forgot the 3 demi-gods. The one the poll is for right now. lol
I think they’re Ultra Beasts
Humans are just a bi product of the universe
That could be a good explanation.
Well the popular theory seems to be Nobody. Humans crossed through a portal, maybe one of Hoopas, and simply inhabited the new world they found themselves in, hence why they are capable of taming what is seen as a god with a electronic ball.
Are humans ULTRA BEASTS!?!?! xD
Or there’s no limit to our potential.
Okay, so I have to know: WonderTrade in SuMo. Is it in or not?
Yep!
YES!!
I’m so hyped that they kept the second best feature from XY!
So I kinda missed out on the whole UB-05 Gluttony
I have to say it’s one of my favorites
I like the idea of this grotesque maw constantly devouring everything in its path, and apparently nobody knows what happens to the matter it consumes
I’m sad it doesn’t have more of a story to it. It had so much potential, considering that it has a galaxy in it’s mouth, and the whole theme of this game is space.
Yeah I love creatures with a nearly infinite appetite
I need an injection of optimism, stat. Tell me the three things you’re most excited for in SM! ^_^
-Pokeride
-Region
-Music
It’s just literally too much. The whole thing is going to be incredible. But:
Kickass, weirdass story
Trainers in battles
Raichu-A
Palossand
More post-game than people are willing to give it credit for
The post game is above average for a first game of the generation. It’s nothing spectacular, but it’s definitely more than we’ve been accustomed to for this type of game.
-The New Pokemon
-Anabel
-Ultra Beasts!
-The Region
-The Music
-Trying out new Pokémon and strategies! Thinking of breeding a Dodrio now that it got a significant boost.
I think I’ve found a way to make Zangoose have a niche lol.
I am intrigued. Do tell.
Haha that’s for you to find out when the game release. 😉
– The region looks absolutely amazing. I can’t wait to see what it’s like in its full glory.
– The music (okay, I’ve spoiled all of it for myself, but it just means so much more and sounds so much better when I have memories of the game paired with it)
– (I was going to say the story, but that sounds too cliche for my already bland list) Battle royales – I can’t wait to play a bunch of battle royales here! 😀
Making and leveling my team
Writing my new story
………….Mudsdale
Now what I DON’T like
-we now entered the era of small regions and filler Pokemon
-No hordes to EV train
-Hyper Training not allowing us to make 6iv Dittos for breeding
-extremely one sided Pokemon
-Breaking Tradition
-too many fairies and water types
-poorly designed Pokemon
-Alolan Forms which was a excuse to make new Pokemon
-they’re making it hard to find HA
– they botched the stats of ALOT of pokes
-lastly, they didn’t give Mudsdale Bulk Up
How are they making hard to find HA?
The only way is to use this weird item that makes wild Pokemon call allies
1. The region is definitely not small; it’s large by pokemon standards.
2. They needed to break tradition to keep things fresh
3. Yeah there’s too many fairies and water types (but at least water types have an excuse)
But everyone’s entitled to their own opinion lol.
By region I meant Dex
But if they could have that many of one type there’s no bloody excuse that others don’t get their fair share
Oh. That’s true, but I can’t blame them for three reasons.
1. They’re getting close to 1000, which personally I don’t see a problem with, but something many people want to avoid for some odd reason.
2. I’d prefer they have smaller new pokemon numbers and add an array of new features to have fun with, which is what SM did.
3. A lot of new pokemon have more than 1 form, making them essentially more than 1 pokemon.
Just laziness
Marshadow clocks in as 802 it should’ve been 856
I thought that we were in for a large number of new pokemon generation as well, but there’s nothing I can do about it, so I prefer to just look at the bright side of things lol.
Well that only distracts you until life nips you in the testicles and reminds you how shitty things truly are
Okay but it’s the amount of characters in a Pokémon game
It’s not that important
Alolan forms only make up 10 different fully evolved Pokémon. ASSUMING they each took the place of 1 “unique” Pokémon, you really weren’t robbed of much.
-Tf is a ‘filler Pokémon’, and how is Alola small
-Hordes were already laggy with six models, try seven. Also, SOS Chains and Festival Plaza are alternatives, one being friendlier to framerate and the other giving you the boosts instantly. Also Poképelago
-If you could get 6 IV Ditto that easily whats the point of IVs in the first place
-What does one sided even mean?
-Fair enough, subjective.
-You mean a mystical region with a ton of water has a ton of mystical and watery Pokémon? Shocking.
-Subjective
-Easily could’ve been an attempt to buff up an already small Dex
-Something called a ‘Hidden Ability’ is rare? 😮
-They’re trying to make the Meta less speed based (trying being the key word)
-Probably because of how annoying it’d be for the thing to be able to boost its Defense when it already does that every time it gets hit
– They’re definitely following a trend of smaller regions and fewer new Pokémon, which does suck a little.
– Gonna miss hordes
– I don’t mind breaking tradition. Keeps things fresh 🙂
– Yeah, too many fairies and water types. Water I can understand, though, because it’s basically Hawaii.
– Disagree on the Pokémon designs. Only a small handful of them disappoint me.
– Stats aren’t everything. Movepools, abilities, typing and items also have to be taken into consideration before writing off a Pokémon as competitively useless.
Stats are everything
Anyone who doesn’t understand that is a fool
That’s my cue.
“Weak pokemon. Strong pokemon. Truly skilled trainers simply try to win with their favorites.”
– Karen, 2010
Oh right a Ledian can take out UB-05 Gluttony
Oh it’s ok it’s a bug type and it’s a dark type it should win hands down
Is that a challenge!?!? lol
Formats: PU
Overview
Ledian is totally outclassed and cannot merit a slot on any serious team, as Meowstic and Ninjask do everything that Ledian can better defensively and offensively, respectively. It has terrible offensive stats, which nullifies its large offensive movepool, and a shallow support movepool, along with poor defenses and a 4x weakness to Stealth Rock, making it absolutely worthless on any team.
It could in-game
Just saying
Or just play in game with what they like because not everyone plays the same as you 🙂
I use so many lower-tier Pokémon in OU and UU and do quite well with them. Kecleon, Sudowoodo and Electrode are just a few.
Because of their stats
Sudowoodu because of its defense
Kecleon has protein which gives more numbers to its attacks
And Electrode of its off the charts speed
So you admit that Kecleon is good because of its ability 😉 But on top of that, it also has an insane move pool to support its incredible ability, and a great item (Assault Vest) to support its already-great Special Defense.
Yes, stats are crucial. But they’re not the sole factor of a Pokémon’s competitive viability.
That’s why every number counts
Even though my brain forbids math of any kind Pokemon is literally all math
Every attack does a numerical amount of damage and it constantly weighs every factor down to the last number
So like in most scenarios it boils down to the golden rule
Biggest. Dick. Wins.
Decidueye
The story
The post-game
VGC 2017
Battle Royales
Silvally
So what battle modes are available at the Battle Tree? Is it just Singles and Multi?
Singles, Doubles, and Multi I believe.
Question: can you play multi battles with only CPUs or can you play with a friend through local/online multiplayer? O.o
Local will very likely be available. Battle Maison had it.
Yes!! I’ve never done that, but my brother is getting a lot more into pokemon so I’d love to be able to play in the battle tree with him.
If the Tree is as tough as the Maison rather than the Tree facility from W2, good luck. I had to use a CPU partner to beat Super Multi. My friend and I simply weren’t good enough together and we were using some solid Pokémon.
The AI multi ally trainers in ORAS were trash though, compared to what we could randomly get in XY (my favorite teammate was a beast: Sharpedo+Landorus).
Archie was pretty decent, but he couldn’t hold a candle to that trainer. Obviously it was harder for me to beat the Multi with Archie… but Archie was still pretty good. 😉
Steven was good though.
I didn’t think so when I used him, so I picked Archie. Ok, ok I mainly used Archie as bait. But at least both his glass cannons wreck stuff, I even get to use Follow Me and it is worth it.
Steven’s main problem is that Aerodactyl dies way too fast (even compared to the aforementioned non-mega Sharpedo for some reason) and deals lower damage than I would want, plus using Fake Out to stun one opponent doesn’t even save it some of the time… it feels like a 3 on 4 when I use Steven, even if his Metagross is such a beast. 🙂
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NO!
“I’m RU, you say?? Well all I gotta say when you tell me I’m RU I say NO WAY! NO NO FRIGGIN WAYYY!”
I’m still waiting for that bottom heavy Olivia
Or maybe that Purple Chick with the Mudsdale she looks like a Ground type user
In the book of Book of Revelation, sightings of angels, disasters, and of legends and monsters rising are all sure-tale signs of the end to come. In the movies, Arceus has stated his wish to restart the world anew without humans and Pokemon who obey humans and their wishes (I know this is NOT canon whatsoever to the games, but is just an additional thought). With Sun/Moon and the 7 Ultra Beasts, they could be a metaphorical reference to the 7 Angels who bring the last of the 7 Plagues. For the past few games, Pokemon has been delving deeper and deeper into interrogating these little nuances and slowly building upon them with each game. I don’t think Sun and Moon are the, “It all comes together” games, but rather the remakes of Diamond and Pearl. With how rich and lore-infested Sinnoh is, it wouldn’t surprise me if the awakening of the Primal deities, the events of Sun and Moon with the 7 Ultra Beasts, and OR/AS Project AZOTH and X/Y’s tap into Infinity Energy began a chain reaction ultimately ending in God’s wrath or Arceus’ wrath being put upon his creations. But hey, that’s just a theory- joking. 😛
We all know it’s you Lockstin. 😛
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This is exactly what I was worried about. So breeding 2 Kanto Pokemon will yield the Alola form of that Pokemon (assuming it has an Alola form). So there is no way to legitimately breed a Gen 7 normal variant of those Pokemon. Guess we’re going to have to wait for the Sinnoh remakes. RIP Drought Ninetales.
Wait for pokebank
It still won’t be Gen 7 native, and hence won’t be allowed in tournaments.
DPP remakes
Pretty much!
SINNOH FORMS
I want so bad
I just want Mega Gen 4 starters….as well as all the other starters xD
Gimme more Megas and gimme Sinnoh forms and gimme for Pokémon exclusive Z-Moves
Instead of remakes , it would great to have a continuation of DPP
Sequels please yes lord
What about ditto?
Also that makes zero sense, you don’t get evolutionary traits by just moving somewhere.
Will still yield Alola forms.
This is inspired by regional animal evolution, not human culture and skin tones so actually this makes more sense. As far as trying to apply logic to Pokémon.
It does make me curious how exactly GameFreak will handle Alola forms in future games
That is yet another mistake they made
There is zero reason a non Alolan variant of a Pokemon should yield a Alolan Variant
Also the pokemon I use for breeding is a level 17 fletchinder also lol.
What how does that even make sense??
Most likely its a programing oversight.
Pokemon could possibly have way more volatile genetics?
But tbh it’s probably a code limitation or just corner cutting
VGC 2017 has Drought Magcargo though. 🙁
At least all the weathers are represented, most especially hail. Which finally has a weather starter with no 4x weakness. :p
And it’s my favorite Ice type
Lol so basically through lazyness GF have just made local adaptation be phenotypic plasticity instead… Makes zero sense as to how foreign populations would have an unexpressed genetic toolset to generate alolan-adapted offspring, but hey it’s not like pokémon was ever that bothered about being biologically sound…
I owe this to everyone here: I respectfully admit that I was wrong about the pokedex being incomplete. I genuinely thought that there was enough evidence to confirm or suggest that the datamine of the demo was incomplete, and I was adamant about that, so I figure I might as well formally admit defeat.
It’s OK. We both believed in something, and we were met with disappointment. But Sun and Moon will still be enjoyable 🙂
Of course they will. Instead of what we expected, we got a large amount of fun features that were a surprise. xD
It’s all right, I wanted there to be more too, but less optimistic to look for it.
You guys. The entire idea behind Alola Forms is that when those Pokémon were introduced to the Alolan environments they changed to better suit said environment. Itzo facto, you introduce Kanto Ratatta to Alola and breed then, they’ll produce offspring better suited for the environment. Or would you prefer them to create 10 sub forms where the offspring slowly become more Alolan Form like?
Honestly speaking, and I don’t mean to sound rude! I don’t care about the logic behind it. I’d be perfectly fine with Kanto versions breeding Kanto versions and Alola versions breeding Alola versions. I just want availability xD
They were never going to let people use non-Alolan forms for VGC 2017 anyway.
Poopy.
It’s more that it means that people who want to breed a say normal Raichu can’t that is getting people annoyed
Except the start of every generation always has head aches like that. Just go back to XYORAS or wait for DPP remakes if you want a non-Alolan.
It’s still an annoyance though,even if it isn’t that bad
No more than not being able to get a Chimchar in Alola. :p
We could still breed those Pokemon though in the games after transferring. Here, there’s just no legit way to obtain them yet.
But that only matters for being VGC legal and they weren’t going to allow them anyway. Just like trading a Chimchar up and breeding it doesn’t mean you can use it in the VGC this year. So what’s the problem with breeding in ORAS and trading forward until DPP remakes come out? Really just seems like a none issue
I guess you are right.
Except it basically makes it phenotypic plasticity instead of local adaptation, which makes less biological sense. Frankly it does surprise me that they would choose to be this lazy/weird with it, but hey it’s game freak so it’s just another mild frustration to add to the pile.
I have just experienced hell…
What was it like?
Bad… the totem wishywashi spams growl, has a defense buff, and calls on help from allied Alomomolas with both helping hand and heal pulse, while it’s raining…
Thunder available at that point?
I wish…. the only electric types I’ve seen are Oricorio, Charjabug
And for grass: Dartrix, bounsweet and Morelull…
I would think Dartrix would do the job but then it’s a physical attacker…
Yeah… razor leaf does around 20 percent until the “fun” begins..
Also it kills everything on my team in 1-2 hits not named Dartrix
Yeah. Remember School Form has like 120-130 base stats in every stat except for hp and speed. The thing’s a monster for a reason.
Plus those stupid HEAL pulses…
Yeah I’m not looking for my Wishiwashi trial
Water is never good
Not good? I legit got PP stalled when I used Dartrix…. the alos spam helping hand heal pulse
And particularly to you, the totem spams growl to lower attack and already has a defense buff…
“Never good” means, like Stitch, he hates water. 🙂
XD oh god
Despite the real me enjoys water
I’m an extremely strong swimmer (I’m build like a walrus)
Enjoys rain, the heavier the better
I would build a dream home near a body of water
But in the world of Pokemon I spit and curse its name
For that it’s very existence is a THREAT, threat to me, my Pokemon and my chances of winning
Well….
…I must ask, since you like ground types… what are your opinions on Flygon’s BUFF?
It is a faint glimmer of hope
Dragon Dance is a start but it won’t be perfect
This is my perfect Flygon
It would gain the HA Sand Stream
And it’s Mega Evolution would have Sand Rush for an ability that would be the perfect combination
It would get an total increase to Sp attack and Defenses and since Sand Rush covers speed it allows it to bolster its lackluster stats
And I say Special attack because it can do so much more with special attacks
-Earth Power
-Draco Meteor
-Giga Drain
-Flamethrower
-Boomburst
-Bug Buzz
Flygon is a fave of mine :3
I’m hoping it becomes really good with a mega… that would work
That is good in a weird way. A challenge or two would be interesting!
It is XD
…I just don’t know how the hell im going to beat it
Sacrifice to Satan
I’m right here BTW
In all seriousness I was going to suggest status until I remembered Alo has Healer
WAIT IT DOES??!! WELP THERE GOES MY ALOLAN GRIMER STRATEGY
It’s a 30% so maybe you’ll get lucky?
…luck and me don’t go together
I got him on speed dial
Does Dartrix have Mega Drain? Otherwise you’ll have to go out of your way to get it on say, Cottonee (lv 13) or Morelull?
Nope, you get leafage and razor leaf
Magemite is on the other island, as is pichu.
Morelul is my only option besides my normal team
Oricorio doesn’t get an electric type move till level 40…
What level are you now (so I can look in the Alolan Pokemon lists to check for help)…
Thanks for your sacrifice, scout, your vigilance may save lives and hairs in the future.
24 is my highest , being Dartrix
So here’s your possible options (I’ma look for some)
1. Taunt
2. Mega/Giga Drain
3. Heal Block
4. Thunder
So I’m gonna look for things that learn those by level 24 (probably not Thunder and you are not likely to have TM for that).
That’s what I would expect
I see Magnemite (too far) morelull, or getting Crits to be my only option
Alolan Meowth/Persian available? Taunt at level 25. A possible thing that can happen is turn 1 taunt wishi, turn 2 taunt the first alolmomola that appears, then Meowth dies and you get free switch to your grass type of choice and you have 3-4 turns to win.
I have one, but the thing is this… it spawns more after they die
Plus it has a sitrus berry so it’s stupidly bulky…
Well you never know it just might work. You don’t attack the Alomomola, just hit the boss straight with all your grass attacks and hopefully it will go down before the first Alo’s taunt wears off (4 turns after Meowth faints). Also having taunted the boss means no Growl, too.
Only problem is that I ONLY have Razor leaf which hits both and kills the Alo quicker
Put in Morelull first. It is slow, but its bulk is reasonable plus it should be restoring with Mega Drain. Even if it only gets one attack it will probably have a dent on Wishiwashi then Dartrix can mop up. Also Leafage still available?
True
Nope..
I honestly think I might just Z-move spam or stall it out …
Or maybe I’ll make mudbray bulldoze it so it isn’t speedy at all..
Wishi’s speed is 30 though.
Anyway, with the Z-Move I think this is how the fight with Meowth strategy might go:
Turn 1: Taunt Wishiwashi
Turn 2: Taunt Alomomola (Wishiwashi attacks Meowth, who faints)
Turn 3: Morelull tanks 2 attacks; attacks Wishiwashi with Mega Drain
Turn 4: Morelull faints before the attack
Turn 5: Dartrix Razor Leaf until Dartrix faints
Turn ?: Crabrawler Z-Move after free switch in
You might need to reload until Wishi doesn’t get healed by an Alomomola summon. But this seems like your only hope.
Hmmm… I’ll see
(The SLOW was for alo by the way)
IMO you don’t need to kill Alomomola’s speed anymore with this strat, but if you want you can bulldoze before Morelull comes in.
True…
Actually… I just got a dumb idea that might just work
WAIT IM STUPID I CAN USE Z MOVES XD
Well I didn’t think about that either…
But do I use it on crabrawler or Dartrix being that I only have normal and fighting
Dartrix, isn’t Crabrawler quite frail?
Yeah 🙁
I only thought so cause stab
I’d try both tbh
I’ll test to see
Do we know yet if we’re able to obtain the HA Starters in-game?
I don’t think so, but if it’s any help I’m pretty sure HA Johto and Unova starters are available pre-bank! 😀
D: Now I must wait even longer to start breeding my Shiny Rowlet! Also I bred a Shiny HA Cyndaquil and Shiny HA Snivy XD Snivy also hatched with HP Fire, one of my more treasured shinies 🙂
2015 in America: Sheesh! Why are people protesting? If you don’t like the leader, why did you let him/her become the leader?
2016 in America: BREAKING 10,000 people march in NYC in protest against Donald Trump
Sometimes ignorance is bliss.
American politics at are a mess
I don’t know what our standards are anymore. Millions upon millions of Koreans are protesting against their President for sharing confidential information with close friends and might resign her post… and we fail to have TWO respectable, noteworthy, reputable, and sensible candidates. It was either: choose a liar or choose a degrader. Lesser of two evils to be frank.
That first argument doesn’t even make sense though. The people protesting obviously weren’t the ones who voted for Trump
It’s called American politics. If it doesn’t make sense, don’t fix it or try to think about it. Since it’s been in our system since the 1700s, it obviously must be right and should be withheld upon till the last days of our country. -_-
No, it means that they were telling people to suck it up and accept the people’s choice but the exact same people are now protesting
so you stand on “nothing we can do, give him a chance”?
just wondering not trying to spark anything
Somewhat: I believe that we should give Trump a chance, but tackle issues such as the Electoral Votes, his policies, LGBT+ rights, abortions, planned parenthood, gun laws, borders, trade, taxes, corporate control, etc. Democracy means having a voice and HAVING your voice heard. Democracy means the right to peacefully protest against laws you deem unfit and inhumane. I believe that we should give Trump a chance, but if he proves himself to be possess no credentials to lead the country then we should act, not before he has not taken office. I do give credence to my fellow countrymen and women in that the whole Election as a whole has been underwhelming, disappointing, and saddening, but we mustn’t abort ship and assume, we must let things carry on, hold our heads high, and act when NECESSARY.
yea One thing i say that is the Trump won we have to give him a chance the guy did even get into office and not even 12 hours after his speech people were burning the american flag
> LGBT+ rights
https://www.reddit.com/r/lgbt/comments/5cnpt2/a_long_but_nonexhausive_list_of_how_trump_is/
Don’t hold your breath on that
That’s what I said: tackle those issues and act.
Oh by the way I found out another disappointment
I finally saw the Animation for Earthquake and it is the worst
At least the Ground Z Move looks good
Twinkle Tackle is a bigger state than Texas
Twinkle Tackle….BAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHH
can you post a vid of it?
I risk spoiling a total match but if you truly want it
https://youtu.be/wQfItQD43UQ
i cant view it
Why not
idk i refreshed it wont come
https://youtu.be/wQfItQD43UQ
just delete it in like a few minutes
ok i saw it
Just an appalling animation
its not as good as gen 6’s
I…Actually kind of like it. Its more reserved. It looks more like a proper earthquake.
I cant view it, can you send a link?
I haven’t been on in a while but I’ve been talking to my friends and they’ve haven’t a seen any of the leaks of the game just the corocoro ones and they’ve asked me if anyone thories that the ultra beast are based on the seven deadly sins and idk how they got that cause they don’t know how many there are and I haven’t told them but that’s a pretty cool that speculated that
i was thinking they do,
That someone did theories it
i mean i thought they were but i wanna see more in-game before i go on telling people
I’ve heard the name of one of the Ultra Beasts put in the latest CoroCore referred to as Gluttony. I don’t know how long they’ve been thinking that but they could’ve put it together when they saw the name. Not to mention that pretty much everyone has theorised that Type:Null was an attempt to recreate Arceus, the Pokemon God, so having the Deadly Sins to fight against that would certainly go together.
No they had stated that before the corocoro and that when they saw Gluttony is what sealed the deal
Also this confirms that Golisopod’s signature attack
First Impression has increased Priority
But it’s like fake out and only works turn one…
It still deals a ton of damage, perfect for revenge KO’s…
True… but there is no reason to run it over… lunge
So it’s half past one in the morning on a school day and I just got out of bed to use an amiibo to stop a giant bee from killing a pink void of eternal hunger
And i died anyway
Fml.
Alright iPad is dying so I’ll be back in a hour
Can somebody confirm if Sina is an ice type user? The first time I fought her she had Delibird and GLACEON, and I’m curious if it stays that way
Well, Dexio stays a Psychic user so Sina probably stays an Ice user
Also, what Z-Crystals do you have? 😮
Normal and Fighting is all I have XD
Thank you! I was wondering where you get the auxiliary Z-Crystals
I know some
HES THAT TYPE?! WHY?!
I dunno, feels quite random but I do like how they’re putting in more type specialists
So that means there is
Normal
Electric
Steel
Fire
Water
Grass
Ground
Fighting
Fairy
Dark
Ghost
Poison
Bug
Flying
Rock
Psychic
Ice….
…….there’s no dragon user….
There’s a post game character with Dragons! 😀
Oh yeah! Isn’t it that guy with the turtonator?
Yup!
Oh yeah!
I just wish they had six mons, not five
nnnnnn so jealous
Honestly I’m gonna stop playing once I reach island 3
Yknow, I gave morelul a lotta flak, but I’m growing to like it…
But its evo is literally Satan
is it growing on you?…cause it’s a mushroom…no, okay bye
You seem like a fungi
I can appreciate that joke
I don’t know. It always came off more as a toad to me.
Guys, I don’t know if there’s mushroom for anymore puns
There’s always room for more, lol
It is XD
XD
Wooo! Ok she is awesome hope she gets alot of time in Sun and Moon
http://starstorm295.tumblr.com/post/153151922340/omg-she-is-awesome-i-need-these-games
http://65.media.tumblr.com/00907f2b3c9ed3aa4f614493e5949b0a/tumblr_oglzz3Jpaz1rks5v8o1_500.png
Just character spoilers, no major story stuff
I still love your style.
:3 thank you! I’m trying to shape it up a bit but ye
can you draw me like one of those french girls yet
Like, for real?
The eyes stare deep within my soul.
I’ve been drawing stuff all day and I keep getting super frustrated with creepy bug eyes 😛
Keep praticing and you’ll get better!
I have absolutely no authority to say this based on my skill, but it’s pretty much the canned answer to any skill at this point. 😛
You are a great artist!
Thank you so much!
Game spoilers! Don’t click if you don’t want to see!
There’s a type specialist for every type!
Trial Captains
Normal-Ilima
Water-Lana
Fire-Kiawe
Grass-Mallow
Electric-Sophocles
Ghost-Acerola
Fairy-Mina
Kahunas
Fighting-Hala
Rock-Olivia
Dark-Nanu
Ground-Hapu
Other
Flying-Kahili
Ice-Sina
Psychic-Faba and Dexio
Dragon-Ryuki
Bug-Guzma
Poison-Plumeria
Steel-Sophocles’ Assistant
is mayonnaise a trail captain
Pls stop
all u had to say was
“no patrick mayonnaise isn’t a trail captain”
Please let the meme die
Joe Biden?
u broke my heart
The real question: can we battle all of them?
ik the answer *zips mouth shut*
TELL ME
yes you can
Great! (I had to put this in a spoiler because my reaction would’ve implyed the answer lol)
yea i think after each trail is complete you can battle the captains i think, idk im guessing
Interesting.
yea i’ve seen every mugshot for trainers, they are there all of them
Debating on what i should eat, toast with jam or sneak a popscicle
Toast. Popsicles really aren’t that great
okay toast it is
I’m glad
never mind i do not have bread, popsicles it is
…Jelly Popsicles?
No, strawberry lemonade, i wonder what jelly pops would taste like
*insert why not both meme here*
am I the only one who is a bit sad chain fishing is gone but happy we got a new cool shiny method that works with every mon
I never used that method anyway, it was super limited on what you could get.
Plus I’m a huge stickler for nature and IVs.
the new method called call for help does ivs,evs,HA and shiny chances
Nature is the only issue at this point, because of hyper training.
What is the new shiny method o.o
Ally battles, a wild poke calls for another poke
??
Adrenaline chaining. Encounter the Pokémon you want, use an Adrenaline orb to let it call for help, kill the original once it does, repeat. its like how totems call for help but you can force wild pokemon to do it too
is the orb consumable? Or is it like the PokeFlute in gen 1 where you can just use it whenever?
consumable, we will learn more when the right people have the games, it just makes me jelly that i see people with shinies and the games aren’t out
how early do you gain access to it? how do you get it? Or do we just not know yet?
fairly early as people arent off the first island yet
so….. shiny ribombee hunting is viable?
yep and you dont even need to the National dex for the shiny charm anymore only the Alola dex
OMG SERIOUSLY, AAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!
yes im more serious then red seeing a snow mountain
lol
OMG YES SHINY RIBOMBABY AND MIMKYU!!!!
any incentives for completing the nation dex though?
there is no national dex, its part of bank now
You actually completed the objective of the game? :p
I’m not sad, it was pretty broken.
Full list of contacts lense and lipstick colours
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/55f73408f71296a553ca313e57c2739c4c963b043bdc181536e4f7b1a52098a7.png
Do you have a list for clothing?
Coral Orange? No Coral Blue No.5??
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/BRck2zkwPx4/hqdefault.jpg
Ok for real I’m so excited that we are getting make up stuff
It’s..It’s BEAUTIFUL
Do you have a list for clothes?
Nope
awww, *sigh*
Hair and hair colours
Girls only have two more styles and bang options. Not too bad tbh, seeing as IRL longer hair is easier to do more with and thus more can be done with the hair in-game
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/64b72a06a3986a098c284bd8d43db8ce5f3da62f134e831c37ed6d45521a784c.png
some of the weird ones are: romantic tuck, long and straight, wine red and pink brown
Do we not have pictures?
I wish
-.-
Aw, come on no purple 🙁
I mean not really
Long and straight is literally just straight, long hair
Romantic tuck seems to be this hairstyle:
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2c3f9c93ff1e3b2ae1837d57be7608b63a729bf15ed5f775616fbbac9f8d050c.png
And dying ones hair wine red isn’t terribly uncommon, it’s a good colour
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/103d7019351c3d0e470c3638ed58c09c18bde97944eb004337d7a5c0fb1d45c7.png
Finally, I can have my real eye colour, ‘No Lipstick’.
Not sure if it’s been stated already, but for those of you that were intending to Hyper Train a Ditto to make it 6 IV. Don’t do it, it will not help in breeding. Hyper Training only sets flags on the Pokemons stats to make them act like they are 31 IV, but it doesn’t actually modify the stat to BE 31 IV. So say you caught a 2 IV Ditto, and Hyper Trained it to be 6 IV…if you use that Ditto to breed, it will still act like a 2 IV Ditto.
I knew this, but it sucks.
I’m going to have to breed the hard way for a while until bank releases lol.
Hopefully by the time Bank updates, we will get the HA Starters as a reward. Then I can transfer my 6 IV Japanese Ditto and start shiny breeding HA Rowlet! 😀
inb4 HA gen 4 starters
or someone somehow gives away 6iv shiny japan dittos with 10 boxses of them.
not really, this is actually a very good thing. it means you can use different hidden power types other than dark with perfect stats.
Night y’all, hope you enjoyed the customisation dumps below
Sucks for clothes though, still haven’t found a good list for those
Also, question
Where do we get the lens case?
We got it in the PR studio in X and Y so idk
Lillie gives it to us in the beginning part of the game
Good night 🙂
HAYAO MIYAZAKI IS OUT OF RETIRMENT AHHHHHHHHHHHHH
http://screenrant.com/studio-ghibli-hayao-miyazaki-out-of-retirement/
YAAAAAAAAS
??
omg omg
ok like, he is the guy behind Studio Ghibli, a studio that has created some of the best anime movies of all time. Like all of their movies are super amazing and memorable. They made movies like Spirited Away, My Neighbor Totoro and Kiki’s Delivery Service (my favorite :3 ) and he is just amazing and great and he retired for a bit but not anymore!!!!!!!!!
Eh, not a fan lol.
Have you seen any of the films?
No, so I guess I don’t have any real opinion, but I’ve heard about them, so my opinion is based on other’s opinions I guess.
I would highly recommend you check them out. At least Spirited Away. I’m not even really an anime fan but its really a master peice. Idk, iz cool tho
if your opinion is based on others opinions, then you’d be treating him like a god, ive never seen a single person criticize any of his work (even if he does deserve it sometimes ponyo…)
I think the appropriate response to that is: “Again?”
Retirement is supposed to be forever. If they weren’t serious, they should’ve just called it a vacation or hiatus…
as long as he’s happy. he’s been at this for awhile, but he’s a master of his craft. “When Marnie Was There” is a movie by the studio without his input, and its my favorite by them, so if he does finally retire, its not like they cant handle themselves.
anyone think minior will be the hardest shiny to realizes it shiny lol
definitely
im totally not gonna ally chain it
IMAGINE IF SOMEONE TO MM FOR IT
I’m so excited to take a break and hunt for Ribombee before the first freaking trail
you gotta beat the first trail since after thats what triggers the ally events in wild
-.-
Well then thats cool
Shiny hunting on the first run is a horrible idea IMO.
I wouldn’t want to be waiting even a week to continue with the game.
Shiny ribombee is amazing though!
ally chaining is like chain fishing its quick
I’m hoping there’s an ability like suction cups to guarantee an enounter then.
theres a item, it forces the summoner to summon a ally you must keep killing the ally
How do you obtain it??
shops
Hmm. Thanks.
price? how many you will need?
i have no idea
How do we know so much but details like this are just seemingly unknowable?
4chan
How long would you estimate? A couple hours?
I know you didn’t ask me, but my estimate is honestly around 4-6 hours if it’s like chain fishing.
chain fishing for me is like a hour
I could never accurately pull the rod back, so I never got anything from it.
I’ve actually never done it
yes
Never too fond with Giratina’s design. But if I had to choose among these 3, a gigantic creature from distortion world easily comes on top!
If only Darkrai is on the list ?
GOOD JOB DARTRIX!!! YOU DID IT!!! THAT WAS AN AMAZING Z MOVE https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/bb9651146a4358f0569f1df2e7926adbf79b3a7f73b49e0d57dd40df9bf6268a.jpg
is this supposed to be a gif?
Oh nevermind it’s a joke lol
Nope XD
Look how little it did…
Yeah I just realized lol.
I thought Z moves were OP but I’m glad to see they arent.
That’s becasue it’s Wishiwashi School Forme that is OP…
Pretty much…
Yep
Well…you’re f*cked
XD
How long have you been fighting Wishiwashi? I’m pretty glad that these totems are tough battles
This is attempt five
oooooooh, this makes me so hyped! I’ve missed losing in new pokemon games without self-implemented difficulty!
XD well, a lot is due to stall
If you play a nuzlocke or don’t have a good grass type… well… have fun
I’m nuzlocking moon, my second playthrough.
I’m getting the tissues ready.
Be glad your first totem is stupidly easy
It should be good to build up the defenses a little lol
XD
Alola raticate is actual trash
What level is dartrix? O.o
24
Even better! >:D
XD yep
This will make the children cry, for sure!
Yep! Fun fact, before the fight, the lapras you are riding is trembling… you can see why
I wonder if they actually playtested this fight with actual children…
(I doubt it though, since children don’t care about NDA’s…)
Really?? Was it that difficult??
XD Wow,Wishywashy School form is bulky or got a boost in its defenses since it’s a totom pokemon
damn, people playing nuzlocke will never pass the water trial
Yo I heard talk about customization
Did that include clothing and if so I demands to see it
No clothing dump sadly.
BALLOCKS
WHY ON EARTH ARE THERE SOOO MANY PLOT SPOILERS AND NO CLOTHING SPOILERS!?!?!
I can tell you there’s a wishiwashi shirt… hehe… hehe… I’m wearing it rn… hehe… (crying)
Might as well ask you two things.
1. Are the clothing stores as small/limited as XY?
2. Are there clothing stores in every city?
Every city? I dunno…
Limited? Still a little but not as bad
Good to know. Thanks!
Yw :3
You can buy shorts!
:O
😀
I’ve heard totem battles are quite difficult. Can anyone with the game tell me their opinion on them?
they are extremely bulky
Woo
I have to leave now bye 🙂 <3
See ya!
Gotta go do the homework I’ve been dreading all day. Bye!
Good luck with that!
As much as I like Dialga since I chose Diamond,I’m going for Giratina.Platinum is the first third main game I ever picked up plus it fixed up a lot of issues that Diamond and Pearl had.Also,Giratina has a cool design and typing.
I FINALLY DID IT!!! I BEAT IT!!! FINALLY
hoping that thing doesnt end my 20 year streak of never losing an battle during the story mode of pokemon. I’m sure I will be fine.
still waiting on that physical hidden power gamefreak lol.
ALL -ate abilities have been nerfed. Now the power of moves increase is just x1.2
10% isn’t too much, I’m sure they will still be good.
Well neither that small. Consider that hyper voice goes from 117 to 108 (less then a hydropump)
I’m not understanding what you are trying to say (not trying to be rude, I’m guessing English isn’t your 1st language, please forgive me if I’m coming off as disrespectful)
in gen 6, I know -ate abilities boosted the power 30% (x1.3), so yes, hyper voice would be boosted to, with an only 20% increase, 108, as you said. however, moves often used with these -ate abilities are often far more accurate. (therefore reliable, and this is all before factoring in STAB. hydro pump is only a 2 power difference at 110 with unreliable accuracy)
What I’m saying is that a stab 117 bp is better then a stab 108 bp, which is actually a nerfed stab Hydro pump. Still strong but the change is not that small.
The references are real m8 https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7ff99e0fadf346cfb971dc5cac9f3c89f7742bec1342a631c11bef67afcb8049.jpg
chain fishing….
Oh yeah
can u explain to me if u are using citra how did u get past the first cutscene and how did u fix the speed
Yes, I am using citra
For the first cutscene… I honestly don’t know.. I guess by laptop was just lucky?
And for the speed, sometimes it’s okay, and others it’s godawful
and are u using citra?
i voted for dialga but all of them are legends
Sylveon or Florges?
competitve? sylveon design? florges
shiny roselia woop. was trying for hoppip or psyduck tho lol
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This entire generation of Pokemon was PHENOMENAL. Gen 3 was hard to top but they blew it out of the water with these games. My only huge complaint is… Why the fuck is palkia a water/dragon -__- wouldn’t dragon/psychic make so much more sense ?
Aahhh game freak
I voted for Dialga. Gen IV is the only gen I haven’t played yet.
I think Giratina looks scary.