RUMOR: Pokémon Sun & Moon’s HUGE SECRET Revealed?

Spoiler & rumor alert: The contents of this article are speculative in nature (based on evidence from demo contents & official documents) and may also spoil surprises in the game. You have been warned.

ash-sun-moonDots are being connected in what could be the biggest Pokémon crossover between the anime and games that the franchise has ever seen. Pokémon Sun & Moon could be the first titles in which Ash, the star of the Pokémon anime, makes an appearance.

Although his in-game counterpart, Red, has a storied history since debuting as the protagonist of the first Pokémon games, Ash has never actually appeared in any games of the main series. Ash-Greninja being available hinted at his existence in the game canon and the demo also made passing reference to him, but it was not widely speculated that he would actually be an opponent in the games, until now.

satoshi-trademarkRecently a trademark filing by Nintendo & Game Freak for ‘Satoshi’ (Ash’s Japanese name) was discovered. This is interesting because it is obviously game-related, not simply a filing for the anime. Although Ash-Greninja will be available to players in Pokémon Sun & Moon after transferring it from the demo, there wouldn’t be much more reason that they’d need to trademark Ash’s name: after all, the anime season featuring his Greninja just wrapped up. The filing also makes no mention of a Pokémon in correlation to him either.

ashs-pikachuIn addition, his Pikachu has already been confirmed by game data mined in the demo! Whether this is an event for players (probably) in addition to a Pokémon he may use on his team is still unclear. It does however point to one thing: Ash is definitely tied into Sun & Moon heavily.

This all comes together with the recent unveiling of the Battle Tree, a location in Alola that allows players to battle with and against some of the most famous trainers in Pokémon history! Sounds like a great place for Ash to make his game debut…

I’ll finish up by reminding everyone with exactly the same warning I gave going in: this is not confirmed. It is, however, definitely something that is being strongly hinted at!

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2,212 thoughts on “RUMOR: Pokémon Sun & Moon’s HUGE SECRET Revealed?”

  1. Anyone care to list the favorite Pokémon by type?
    Grass: Lilligant
    Water: Tentacruel
    Fire: Houndoom
    Normal: Zangoose
    Flying: Staraptor
    Fighting: Machamp
    Poison: Crobat
    Electric: Galvantula
    Bug: Scizor
    Rock: Tyrantrum
    Ground: Gliscor
    Ghost: Aegislash
    Psychic: Espeon
    Ice: Weavile
    Dragon: Hydreigon
    Dark: Greninja
    Steel: Excadrill
    Fairy: Azumarill

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  2. A bit off topic but it’s something that plays a role in everyone’s life

    What’s everyone’s favourite song? Like, an actual song with lyrics.

    Right now mines has to be this version of Sweet Transvestite

    https://youtu.be/Q5_mxUuj_jw

    (Note: If anyone is confused as to why Laverne is singing she’s a Transvestite whilst she’s an obvious woman (referred to as female throughout the film) wearing what is traditionally woman’s clothing, she’s stated that it’s due to the film being set in the seventies, which sadly was a terrible period to be trans (her version of Frank is seemingly FTM) and Transvestite would probably used to refer to them. Seemingly, her character has adopted the term similar to how different minorities have adopted words that were once slurs to use as slang.)

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  3. Time to promote some discussion: do you think there will be gyms in the post game? Yay or nay? Why?

    (asking “Why?” after a question makes me feel like a teacher writing a test lol.)

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  4. Gonna kinda separate this from the below question due to being only slightly related

    If the theory of Gyms is correct, what types do you guys want? Tbh I’m just predicting seven and then they’re just the types that have been missed out so far

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  5. Ive been coming to pokebeach for months now and have been lurking on all the comments and finally decided to join in! Hello everyone!

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  6. So, it seems that we have seen all of the info we will see until release (unless we get another XY situation). At this point, where all we can do is wait for release to get more info, what are your final hopes for the games?

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  7. Did you guys see the Gamestop newsletter?
    Apparently they’re bringing the Z-ring toy westwards…
    I will be the prettiest deer with that ring~

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  8. So if you were a gym leader what type would you be? What order in the gym line up would you be in and who would your team be with what levels?

    I think mine would be a Fairy type gym. Fourth or fifth in the line up.
    I’d have
    -Comfey lv 31
    -Togetic lv 29
    -Sylveon lv 32
    -Alolan Ninetales lv 34

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  9. Seeing as questions are propping up, here’s a more restricted one to promote compromise and thought

    You’re an Elite 4, every member of your team must be holding an item, and one must hold a Z-Crystal of your type or Mega Stone-not allowing both in one team. Pokémon that Mega Evolve into your type are okay. You also have to have your team layed out with these specific levels and number of members

    Lv. 52
    Lv. 53
    Lv. 53
    Lv.53
    Lv.55

    With no underleveled mons and your Mega /Z-Move Pokémon must be the highest level.

    Note: Extreme Evoboost (if anyone would actually use it) and Pulverising Pancake count for Normal, and Stoked Sparksurfer and Catastropika court for Electric.

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    • Copy and pasting this since I’d want the same team anyway lol

      Fairy type, 7th gym (or elite 4 member hehe) and since I’m from Hawaii irl, I’d want to be based in Alola!

      Primarina lv.55 & Shiny Lopunny lv.53 my main Pokémon)
      Alolan Ninetales lv.53
      Sylveon lv.53
      Togekiss lv.53
      Wigglytuff lv.52

      Oh, skipping items and obviously I’d mega evolve lopunny. I know she isn’t fairy… but please let me have her!!!! Lol

      rf for pic
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3a9dfb921752d7a9ee0745bae34fd82c9b9d0f40088af671be541d16a88ebcda.jpg

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        • Very true.

          Btw, I’m Tevis. It feels weird to finally be talking to you… because I lurk PJ 24/7 and feel like I know all of you already

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          • Well then, welcome!

            It’s not unusual to lurk for a while and then join, actually helps quite a lot because you know what people speak about to get the best conversation and avoid arguments

    • Here’s mine: Electric.

      Lv. 52-Galvantula (Focus Sash-Compound Eyes-Sticky Web/Thunder/Giga Drain/Bug Buzz)

      Lv. 53-Rotom Wash (Choice Scarf-Levitate-Volt Switch/Hydro Pump/Trick/Will-o-Wisp)

      Lv. 53-Emolga (Flying Gem-Motor Drive-Nuzzle/Wild Charge/Acrobatics/Return)

      Lv. 53 Heliolisk (Air Balloon-Dry Skin-Electric Terrain/Volt Switch/Surf/Dark Pulse)

      Lv. 55 Alolan Raichu (Electrium Z or ‘Raichium Z’* – Surge Surfer-Thunderbolt (Gigavolt Havoc, Stoked Sparksurfer*), Psyshock Surf**, Nasty Plot)

      *Raichium and Stoked Sparksurfer if it doesn’t require a physical electric move on Raichu

      **If it learns it, Grass Knot otherwise

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      • I would be the first Normal type elite 4 member!

        Chansey lv 52
        Porygon-Z lv 53
        Slaking lv 53
        Silvally lv 54
        Mega Pidgeot lv 54
        (They’re both 54 cause they’re both my mains, kinda like how Lorelei had jynx and Lapras at the same levels)

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    • – Gardevoir, Lv. 55 w/ Gardevoirite (Hyper Voice, Moonblast, Psychic, and Shadow Ball)
      – Sylveon, Lv. 53 w/ Choice Specs (Hyper Voice, Moonblast, Wish, and Hidden Power)
      – Clefable, Lv. 53 w/ Leftovers (Moonblast, Calm Mind, Cosmic Power, and Baton Pass)
      – Sigilyph, Lv. 53 w/ Flame Orb (Calm Mind, Psychoshift, Roost, and Stored Power)
      – Whimsicott, Lv. 52 w/ Leftovers (Moon-Blast, Leech Seed, U-Turn, and Encore)

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    • alright werk: Psychic

      lv. 52 – Jynx (Sash- Dry Skin – Lovely Kiss, Nasty Plot, Ice Beam, Focus Blast)
      lv. 53 – Girafarig (Band – Sap Sipper – Return, Earthquake, Crunch, Zen Headbutt)
      lv. 53 – Gallade(Life Orb – Justified – Bulk Up, Drain Punch, Knock Off, Zen Headbutt)
      lv. 53 – Beeheyem (Leftovers – Analytic – Calm Mind, Recover, Psychic, Shadow Ball)
      lv 55 – Slowbro (Slowbronite – Regenerator – Calm Mind, Rest, Scald, Sleep Talk)

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  10. I’m so bored, this is going to be the longest 19 days of my life, isn’t it? -_-

    Side note: is bulbapedia acting sorta virusy for anyone else? If I stay on it for more than a minute or so it take me to a “you’ve been selected for a free 1000 dollar gift card” thing.

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