The article below contains spoilers for Pokémon Sun & Moon.
We have chosen not to publish any images obtained from the demo version and as such the information below is a text rundown of what has been uncovered. The comment section of this article will also contain spoilers.
The demo version of Pokémon Sun & Moon is currently live in some regions and some avid trainers have gotten to work uncovering everything the demo has to offer.
It seems that lessons haven’t been learned from Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire and the demo files contain information on some currently unannounced Pokémon and over information. It’s unknown if the demo contains files for all new Pokémon in the games, though at this point it seems almost definite.
Leaked Information
Alolan Forms
The demo contains files confirming the existence of many more Alolan Pokémon:
- Geodude, Graveler and Golem
- Diglett and Dugtrio
- Persian
New Pokémon & Ultra Beasts
- There are at least five new Ultra Beasts, bringing the total to 8
- The leaked Starter Pokémon evolutions are real
- Pikipek appears to evolve into a toucan Pokémon in it’s final stage
- Crabrawler, Wimpod, Morelull and Salandit all receive evolutions
- Solgaleo and Lunala both have a pre evolution/lesser form
- A new Pokémon that appears to be based on an anchor
- A new Pokémon and it’s evolution that were previously leaked by an Amazon listing for the upcoming Sun & Moon TCG expansion
- Another two Pokémon evolution line that appears to be part Bug type
- Marshadow is a real Pokémon, but doesn’t look anything like Solgaleo or Lunala
- Magearna has a form that looks more like a traditional Poké Ball
- Ash Pikachu is in the game and appears to be able to wear Ash’s hat from each region of the anime
- [NEW] The Pokémon models found within the demo are only from Pokémon found in the Alola Pokédex
[NEW] Pokémon Moves
- It seems there are a total of 719 moves in the games, by comparison Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire had 621
- 3 of these new moves appear to be taught via TM
- 29 of the new moves are Z-Moves (18 Z-Moves for each type and 11 special Z-Moves)
- HMs no longer exist and are not available as a regular TM
[NEW] Items
- There are 920 items present in the demo, 58 of which are related to Z-Moves
- A new medicinal item similar to Lava Cookie that cures all
- A new battle item with held effect (like Dire Hit)
- At least 6 new holdable items with effects
- A Key Item that is likely used to change Zygarde forms
- 3 items that are used to change forms
- Bikes and Travel Trunks (an unused key item) are not in the demo/games
- The Strange Souvenir item data appears unchanged in the games
- 1 new type of Poké Ball
- It appears the new ball cannot be bought or sold
We will update with further details if and when they come.
REMEMBER: This information is currently unannounced and has been leaked from the demo. Please respect the wishes of others and mark your spoilers correctly.
The Smogon forums aren’t very interesting to dwell in. I feel like every other person keeps bringing up old news as if it’s new or provide old opinions already considered unlikely.
Just thought of this, STAB Normal Z-Move using Explosion, I calculated that it would reach 300+ BP potentially
lol
“It’s a vending machine! … $1 million?!? what?”
http://img10.deviantart.net/44f3/i/2016/292/5/c/wimpod_evolution_by_alexalan-dalj17d.png Dayumn people work fast
Is it weird that I kind of want it to be Bug/Steel? But offensive and fast?(unlike you forretress and escavalier)
Not at all dude.
yes it is. we need a bug/water after masquerain failed us
Well its shell almost looks like Samurai armor. So it was just a thought.
I see where you are coming from.
hmmm X-scissor, swords dance, aqua jet and waterfall? Possibly crabhammer if it can learn it?
that’s scizor
Okay…but a useful one that isn’t just niche with tech builds baton pass teams 😛
uh scizor serves multiple roles. banded wall breaker, mega tanky, revenge killer, etc.
you know nothing of competitive do you
Fine I don’t like Scizor, I want a good Bug/Steel you happy :P(legit forgot he had a mega too)
My favourite set Is the Bulky Swords Dance set. Also enjoy banded one every now and then.
There’s also a defensive Defog, Roost set.
O.K if that’s what its evo looks like, I guess I’m alright with it. 😀
Amazing!
Just finished downloading my Demo. Can’t wait to play despite being totally disappointed by hackers of the ugly ass evolutions of many new Pokemon. And in addition to that, no proper Snowman or Dolphin Pokemon.
this gen is awesome!
Damn I actually blacked out from battling a trainer. I hope that’s how the actual game is cuz man these trainers were actually pretty tough
I actually couldn’t believe it.
the trainer sent out pikachu at level 42 and paralyzed my greninja and eventually knocked me out with electro ball
Yeah that happened to me too, lol. My mistake was not using super potion before starting the battle, and stupidly using aerial ace on her jangmo-o instead of going straight for night slash. Second time the win was easy, though.
Yeah. That’s true
How do I put a spoiler tag? I need to say something
blah blah blah
remove the spaces between the <, Spoiler, and /
There are actually 7 UBs. Well yeah there are 8, but one if version exclusive, so 7 per game. IT ALL COMES TOGETHER. And those pre-evos for Lunala/Solgaleo are not actually pre-evos, but most likely ”unreleased, or ”uncomplete” forms like the Zygarde cells. Same with Marshadow.
don’t jump to conclusions. for all we know, any number of these could be version exclusive, there could be less than 7. they are switching up the formula so much this gen, who’s to say they aren’t pre evo’s of solgaleo and lunala? Silvally is basically another form, but its considered an evolution.
Which would mean that we are missing marshadows full form. Plus the new, celebi, diancie of this generation.
That would most likely be Magearna.
I always saw Diancie as part of a trio…. I do miss the days we used to get those tiny adorable mew/ celebi/ jirachi/ shaymin/ victini of the Gen
There’s so much in these games to look forwards to! Beautiful region, different challenge in the form of trials, alolan forms, much better designs in my opinion than kalos and maybe even unova, upgraded character customisation.
Yes, there are some issues which we were hoping would be resolved such as another bipedal fighting type looking fire starter, a smaller number of new Pokemon, some of our favourite Pokemon from the reveals not getting evolutions, and for me personally not enough legendary Pokemon ( I like Sinnoh and unova :/). But still hyped and much better than Kalos! Hopefully the story is amazing and the game isnt as easy as XY! HYPED 😀
Considering that it’s been reported you get the exp share early on though…
Look at my comment below
Sorry
Wut don’t be sorry. I’m saying my comment might answer what you said above
Thought you were referring to spoiler tagging
Oh nah man.
Love the profile pic
Thanks!
Well we can turn it off! What annoyed me about XY was that some gym leader Pokemon only knew 3 moves, they were under Leveled and that there were 2-3 for gym leaders when I’d love the challenge of 3-5. I’d also like it if you were forced to pick the same number of Pokemon as the gym leaders. But it’s aimed at kids after all.
in x, I couldn’t find many of my wanted team members until later, so chesnaught and vivillon were lv. 40 when I got my 2nd badge lol.
We don’t have gym leaders anymore so I think 3-5 and 2-3 won’t be happening this gen. But maybe kahunas?
Hey guys, so to get it clear…
this image of the new pokemon with the question marks in it, i hope you know which one im talkiing about, someone already posted it.
The dots mean possibly more new pokemon ? and
Is this the correct datamined order of the mons in the dex?
thx
can you link this picture?
how can i link it without showing the image here? because when i copy the link, the image is shown here, i dont wanna spoil
put the image in a spoiler tag then.
How do you do a spoiler tag thing? Or the shading text?
Just show it. This article clearly warns about spoilers in the comments section 😛
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvDFzp_WIAAr5i2. jpg
delete the space between . and jpg
im an idiot…click the link + type .jpg after the link
those would be all standalone pokemon (except maybe for a mimikyu evo). This would mean 20 non legend standalone on 70, which is even crazier
Hi…. which image?
Someone pointed this out earlier on, they think it’s the totem pokemon.
Ooh, 3 stardust can be sent to the full game once you have Taurus and clear a quick minigame. Also, Mahalo trail has incredible music, very reminiscent of mystery dungeon.
Where can I find the other two? I got one from beating the trainer with the lv42 Pikachu
Dude outside the pokecenter gives 1.
Sorry, I wouldn’t know yet, still just discovering stuff myself.
Credit to Dragonith on Deviantart:
http://orig10.deviantart.net/eeca/f/2016/292/4/7/pokemon___scrubbed__til_shiny_by_dragonith-dalifm6.png
Hahahahahahahahahaha ???
well hakamo-o is slow as molasses on a cold winter day going upward…. in space. I just got scary faced twice and I still outsped it, with Pikachu.
It used Autotamize twice in front of Ash-Greninja and still was hella slow
Here’s hoping Kommo-O gets a bigger speed boost. I’d hate for them to waste an opportunity on an awesome looking pokemon with unique typing.
… slow pokemon doesn’t automatically make it bad. I was just pointing out its speed for people who are into that sort of thing.
Correct, but with a 4x weakness to fairy it is going to need some help.
However, if it has decent speed, its atk stat looks like it is through the freaking roof, so it will still be great. fingers crossed that it can learn cross chop.
I’m hoping for more of a physical goodra, fantastic def, good enough atk to hit things decently, good hp.
ugh this again.
hydreigon, scizor, heatran, salamence, garchomp, and heracross are just a few examples of pokemon with a 4x weakness that are very common in the metagame. some of these aren’t even particularly fast.
Yes, but 4x weakness to a commonly played type, those of which tend to be above average speed is a no go. Hell, 3 of the ones you mentioned are really fast, and Heracross has above average.
earthquake is the most commonly used move in the game, heatran doesn’t complain.
Yea but Heatran has enough bulk to live through it 😛 Going off reddit Hakkamo-O’s sp. def ain’t super great. At least it means it can fend off Azumarill and M-Mawile though.
The BSTs might be lowered to make the demo easier.
That too
no shade, but if they left all the shinies in the pokedex the least thing they gonna do is modificate the BST
Nah, they really do alter that stuff for the demo. And also Jangmo-o and Hakamo-o can only have Bulletproof in the demo, but we know it can also have Soundproof, so there’s more proof of altering.
There’s an explanation for that, all the scales slow them down.
I’m not complaining, I’m just pointing it out for the competitive battlers here.
rip thats sad
why the hell does minior (and komala) doesnt have an evolution
if I had to wager I guess, i’d say its because gamefreak didn’t make them.
I don’t know how to do a spoiler, so I’ll be vague. I’m thinking there are more because we’re missing a few certain leaked Pokemon.
they better cause if not i will be so dissapointed
Have there ever been new Pokemon that didn’t show up in their respective regional dexes?
Yes, in Gen 4 new evos and some of the legends weren’t in the regional Dex, at least in D/P, in Plt most were added, some remain region dexless.
If you are talking about the snowman and dolphin, they’re there. They just not what you expected.
we don’t have a sprite for cubone
We don’t have the sprite for any old Gen pokemon with no alolan form
We do, check PokéLoot on Twitter.
I meant new ones, but thankyou.
Cubone is it’s normal typing.
Do we KNOW it has its normal typing? Seems weird for a ground type to evolve into Ghost/Fire.
We’ve seen it in evolve from a Cubone.
Ah okay then. Seems weird that most of the alolan forms are for the entire evo line, but not for those three.
In a trailer they showed cubone, pikachu and exeggcute evolving into their Alolan evolutions.
The snowman was supposed to be an ice/ghost type.
I think Fairy explained this is that the Chinese word for yeti and snowman are similar or the same so thats where the confusion came in.
I feel like Minior will have useable, but not godly stats, maybe all 80s, and I see it as the Spinda of the region, I never really saw it as something that would evolve.
does anybody know which Pokemon you can catch with the Catching Challenge? So far I got Rockruff, Pikipek, Yungoos and Pikachu.
Hi. How do you do that spoiler tag/ letter stuff?
your comment remove the spaces between < and spoiler
to close a spoiler,
Anyone else notice that the awesome sitting mechanic has been completely removed? ;n;
Yeah?
such a groundbreaking mechanic taken away
I know! How else am I supposed to enjoy my goddamn malasada?! >:U
RIGHT, this games are not realistic at all now
youre…. being sarcastic, right?
no, by sitting I could break the ground
What do you think?
with the way people have so far been complaining for no reason, it wouldn’t surprise me.
No, sitting is a vital necessity in life. No sit, no rest, no energy, no chance of becoming a Pokémon master!
GF always removes the best features
not the first time GF introduce something awesome then take it away, sadly
*nothing’s following me intensifies*
lol yeah, that’s the big one we all miss 😡
Yup just noticed
Battles with more than 2 Pokemon on screen runs pretty horribly on the old 3DS..
XL or regular?
XL
dont think this is everything the rumor of 143 new pokemon is still up the dataminers said they couldnt find some sprites there is also a possibility that they just didnt show everything so that there is still a suprise factor
I want to believe GF left some behind but scrubbed a lot so that we’d get what we deserve for spoiling ourselves lol.
exactly they did delete some things from the demo
Le sigh… I shouldn’t of looked at the leaked Demo files.
Komala confirmed to have no evolution. It had so much potential.
So… 1) Does anyone think Kalos is in the game? Something was posted last night but I don’t remember. And 2) What type do you think the creepy spider alien is?
I will continue to believe Kalos is in the game until they release and prove otherwise.
No, Kalos was one of the locations they found, but that’s because in Greninja info it is stated that it comes from Kalos
Then why so much extra space in the game
Improved graphics, cutscenes, and the fact that Alola appears bigger than Kalos.
I get all the new features. But I don’t think it’s so much stuff that it takes up all that space. Something is still missing
1. No, probably just labeled for Kalos Pokemon plus one NPC says alola is very far from other regions.
2. I think it may be like dark and bug, electric and bug? I have no clue hinestly
It sort of has an air bubble around it (like those diving spiders), but by the colors it could be electric/bug, maybe electric/water. I would like an Bug/Psychic, even though it wouldn’t match with the colors, but who cares.
I don’t know if Kalos is in the games, but I do know that even if the games come out and Kalos isn’t in them, a certain group of hardcore fans will continue to believe we will return to it at some point through some kind of gen 7.5 DLC update, despite how GF have said they don’t want to do DLC and probably never will 😛
People just really don’t want to believe Kalos is over, haha.
I’m in the group of people believing Kalos is in, but if it isn’t in, it is not coming at a later point for Sun and Moon and I’ll admit, even with everything Sun and Moon have to offer, I’m going to be a bit disappointed that Kalos was one and done.
We have no third legend, we have no Fossils, we have just 6 lines of 3 stages (3 of which are the starters). Instead we have 14 standalone pokemon and maybe other 6 to come. God, didn’t think Gen 7 would have beaten Gen 6 poor dex. At least I like almost all new pokemon.
true. I hate how many standalones are
It’s sad but I really feel like there might be a little bit more. Maybe one or two evos for the standalone Pokemon and maybe a couple legends/mystical Pokemon.
can we start already to talk about a generation 7.5 for next games? XD
I remember Masuda saying to the girl of Pokenki that there would have been around 100 new pokemon. Did I dream it?
81 is around 100
-.- 98 is around 100
He said there will be more than 10 new Pokemon as a joke.
tbh I feel like Marshadow is the 3rd legendary and it isn’t gonna stay as that cute little ghost critter. I wonder if it has an alternate form to make it impressive, big and scary.
Think of it like, if we’d seen Zygarde core before its normal form. maybe 😛
No, I think Marshadow is the Mew clone of this gen. It could get another form but Hoopa had too. Usually the third legend has around the same size of the main legends.
I’d agree with you, but usually the legendaries don’t get prevos and they have this time around. I wonder if Marshadow is something similar…just reversed.
Perhaps mini-cover legendary will be related to the Zygarde plot line, since that also looks like a powering up legendary style thing. Post-game? Or it could just be like Xerneas in it’s pre-battle, blue forme.
And usually legendaries don’t evolve and we have gym battles.
Also, Let me remind everyone of celebi, Ho-oh and Lugia’s third legendary, but also the only mythical, also not similar to lugia and ho-oh’s theme. Marshadow could be the same.
I love pikipek evolution line, it would stay normal/flying tho.i think crabrawler evo, the spider pokemon is one of my fave, salandit evo is basically heliolisk 2.0 it looks incomplete, i hate that there are so many standalones especially for pokemon that needed an evolution, the wimpod evo is cool but i aint a big fan, and i am dissapointed with the anchor pokemon, they could have done better
I’m really, really surprised that komala doesn’t appear to have an evo. That’s my no.1 reason I hope there’s more to be discovered. That little dude does not seem complete on his own.
I hope Pikipek stays Normal/Flying, if it turns into Water/Flying I will be VERY angry! Because that will clash with my team. I want Popplio, so yeah.
water/flying is not even a good competititve typing either.
I agree so much, the spider is perfect
It’s perfect, really torn between Vikavolt and alien spider now, since it seems like they’d likely have the same typing.
I had some ideas on typing.
1) Bug/Electric
2) Bug/Water
3) Electric/Water
4) Bug/Dark
5) Electric/Dark
6) Bug/Psychic
7) Electric/Psychic
8) Dark/Psychic
9) Water/Dark
Ahh, I love this mystery, I’d be happy with anything/water, then, I’d have more team spaces for all these cool new ‘mon, Rowlet and Alolan Vulpix are in for sure.
Exactly what i was thinking About the heliolisk part
I don’t feel like the Salandit evo looks incomplete, it’s a slim (probably female only?) lizard so it doesn’t have to be huge or anything. Heliolisk did look imcomplete though
I wonder if all our money from the demo will be transferred to the real game…
Doubt it, but you can transfer 3 Stardusts, a Starpiece and a Nugget
Probably not
What is going on with those Alola forms
Wasted opportunity.
Wasn’t it said though that they didn’t data mine everything? Maybe there are still new Pokemon?
Nah.. i think we just should accept this. no reason to give uourzelf false hope
Zero fossil pokemon seems unlikely.
Gen 2 had no fossils
Gen 2 was basically a continuation of Kanto though
If kalos is postgame, u Can count this as a continuation of kalos?! Idk
IF it is (but the two regions are not even close to each other. Johto and Kanto are only separated by a mountain)
I thought it was datamined though?
Why? It’s happened before. Also Hawaii doesn’t have much in terms of fossil records.
I’m not trying to give myself false hope. It just seems like like a lot of people are too quick to jump the gun
We Will see, i just accepted it, its a decent bunch of new pokemon
exactly what i have been saying
Thats actually what I think. I think they purposely put some unrevealed data in the demo to datamine.