The article below contains spoilers for Pokémon Sun & Moon.
We have chosen not to publish any images obtained from the demo version and as such the information below is a text rundown of what has been uncovered. The comment section of this article will also contain spoilers.
The demo version of Pokémon Sun & Moon is currently live in some regions and some avid trainers have gotten to work uncovering everything the demo has to offer.
It seems that lessons haven’t been learned from Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire and the demo files contain information on some currently unannounced Pokémon and over information. It’s unknown if the demo contains files for all new Pokémon in the games, though at this point it seems almost definite.
Leaked Information
Alolan Forms
The demo contains files confirming the existence of many more Alolan Pokémon:
- Geodude, Graveler and Golem
- Diglett and Dugtrio
- Persian
New Pokémon & Ultra Beasts
- There are at least five new Ultra Beasts, bringing the total to 8
- The leaked Starter Pokémon evolutions are real
- Pikipek appears to evolve into a toucan Pokémon in it’s final stage
- Crabrawler, Wimpod, Morelull and Salandit all receive evolutions
- Solgaleo and Lunala both have a pre evolution/lesser form
- A new Pokémon that appears to be based on an anchor
- A new Pokémon and it’s evolution that were previously leaked by an Amazon listing for the upcoming Sun & Moon TCG expansion
- Another two Pokémon evolution line that appears to be part Bug type
- Marshadow is a real Pokémon, but doesn’t look anything like Solgaleo or Lunala
- Magearna has a form that looks more like a traditional Poké Ball
- Ash Pikachu is in the game and appears to be able to wear Ash’s hat from each region of the anime
- [NEW] The Pokémon models found within the demo are only from Pokémon found in the Alola Pokédex
[NEW] Pokémon Moves
- It seems there are a total of 719 moves in the games, by comparison Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire had 621
- 3 of these new moves appear to be taught via TM
- 29 of the new moves are Z-Moves (18 Z-Moves for each type and 11 special Z-Moves)
- HMs no longer exist and are not available as a regular TM
[NEW] Items
- There are 920 items present in the demo, 58 of which are related to Z-Moves
- A new medicinal item similar to Lava Cookie that cures all
- A new battle item with held effect (like Dire Hit)
- At least 6 new holdable items with effects
- A Key Item that is likely used to change Zygarde forms
- 3 items that are used to change forms
- Bikes and Travel Trunks (an unused key item) are not in the demo/games
- The Strange Souvenir item data appears unchanged in the games
- 1 new type of Poké Ball
- It appears the new ball cannot be bought or sold
We will update with further details if and when they come.
REMEMBER: This information is currently unannounced and has been leaked from the demo. Please respect the wishes of others and mark your spoilers correctly.
Hmmmm so here’s an intereting thing. Of the leaked Pokemon from the demo none of them were a snow man or dolphin. I wonder if we really do have more new Pokemon coming our way.
Snow man might have been the yeti crab evo for crabrawler. Dolphin may have been the purple koko that’s actually a swordfish thing.
These are both a stretch, but:
Snowman – crabrawler evo
Dolphin – tapu poni
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Yet, it seems odd, because a few credible leaks said Ice/Ghost, and Tapu Poni seems more like a swordfish to me. I do however believe we’ll get more.
I feel like those aren’t the ones talked bout. Like you said they seem more like a marlin and yeti crab doesn’t match what we’eve heard. I’d find it odd of the Chinese leaks got every other Pokemon it specifically talked about right and then those two were left out or misleading.
Plus the GamExplain stuff
So I figured something out. From what we have seen, Marshadows is #853. Volcanion is #728. That means there’s 125 difference there. Minus 8 Ultra Beasts, minus 16 Alola Forms, That equals 101. Then take out 73 (Gen 7 pokes plus complete Zygarde), that leaves you with 28. WHERE ARE THE 28 MISSING POKEMON? IN THE FINAL GAME!!!! PROBABLY POST GAME LIKE SINNOH. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a3e3faab3ec1f71fe56156b5113d093de4c925574ea94618d16e0cf13a67e8a7.gif
Where did you hear 853?
Look at the pic I posted right below my original post.
Wait, how do we know Marshadow is 853?
Hmm, where did you get this 853 from? Someone would’ve noticed this hours ago if it was true.
I could be wrong. Let’s hope I’m accurate.
Yep.
Unless Alolan Forms share numbers with their Kanto counterparts and have multiple dex entries.
Just one big problem. Volcanion is #721.
How’s that a problem?
The big problem is the source of information.
Here. One of the dudes that was leaking the mons last night had it on his twitter. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e9ce248279084e7c8594fd602e3a93c6cc34915fe5b4510db80f5302d5fc01b5.png
I could’ve sworn that they said there was no dex numbers, but hmm.
Wait I’m confused. If the egg avatar person asked a question, then how do they know an answer for the courtney avatar person’s question.
Wut.
New person here. I think you are referring to the zip file that has all the pics in it. But it doesn’t have all the Pokemon and also counts the shinies.
Ok so if the mystery things are totem pokemon, why are those separate but not those Lunaala and Sogalao forms from CoroCoro?
http://pm1.narvii.com/6162/186ca92dfd6212f14724ae22dd9a81c570104cab_hq.jpg
I think this is just move animation.
These are pokedex stills, you know the 4 animations we see in the JP trailer for every new pokemon. Therefore, totems should not have pokedex stills, the difference is an orange aura.
What if this is their zmove.
They have a Zmove, solgaleo gets yellow when he uses it
Something I just discovered, don’t know if it was already pointed out. You can assign the pokemon from the poke ride to the direction buttons. For example if i push the left button tauros appears. It’s like you can assign HM
Does it just run up out of nowhere?
Yeap.
Pokeball light explodes around you and you’re on it in full ride gear, like it does anyway.
Yo guys I need your help! My 3ds can’t connect to my university’s wifi. I could create a hotspot with my phone but I don’t want to use that much data. Is there some way I can use my laptop to send out some kind of wifi signal I can use with my 3ds?
Do you have a McD’s or something nearby with free Wifi? Might be easier. Idk much about these things tbh, sorry I can’t help :/
Does any one here hate litten3 IMO it looks like guzma when he crouches and i think it will be fire/dark
I love Litten but I wish Litten3 could drown in the ocean.
I think it looks better in game than the concept art and like I said it just resembles guzma imo
Are u going to pick litten and fully evolve it or pick a different starter or everstone torracat
Gonna get Popplio
I love Litten3 XD
Does it look like guzma to u because of his pose that litten3 has and guzma to
Uhhh, hmm. I’m not sure I see that comparison
Guzma has his legs crouched in battle and litten3 has them slightly crouched
I like it. Prefer Rowlet3 though. I hope for Fire/Dark.
I think it will be fire dark because it’s meant to be a heel wrestler. Litten3 probably for sun and one of the other two for moon
If I get both I’ll use it too.
We’ve been hating it for months.
I think it looks cool probably because I like most fire starters and wrestling
More likely the latter.
‘Some’ have, I somewhat like it, not what I’d have wanted a Tiger Pokémon to be (one of my favourite animals) but not that bad.
Monkeyfuzz do u think it resembles guzmas pose in a way
Kinda, but I wouldn’t think he’d have one. Unless other major characters have the other 2 outside of what Hau gets.
I know he wouldn’t have one but I mean litten3 Sprite pose looks like guzmas in battle
Maybe it’s universal bad guy pose in Alola?
I detest it. The design is ugly enough as is, without the fact it ruined one of the best Fire starters ever.
Doesn’t mean everyone has to. Can we agree Rowlet3 is the best one?
There are a lot of people who do though.
Rowlet3 isn’t what I hoped for but it’s definately the best of the three. That seems to be almost unanimous too (http://pokejungle.net/forums/index.php?/topic/162-what-are-your-feelings-about-the-starters-leaked-final-forms-potential-spoilers/ )
A lot =/= the right to say “We’ve” as if everyone is unanimously in agreement. I admit I’m being somewhat picky here though.
What did you hope for Rowlet3?
I said “we” as in “we who dislike it”.
I didn’t say “everyone”.
Not sure, there are a few fan-made designs I like, but tbh it’s mostly the hood and the feather fingers I don’t like and I’m not too happy about the face seemingly changing species.
It’s a Pokémon, I can forgive the face change, as it isn’t that drastic compared to say, Octillery. Feather fingers are weird, I agree, I guess they thought that was the only way they could make it an archer?
I like all them but if I had to put them in order favourite to least favourite 1.Litten3 2.Rowlet3 3.Popplio3
1. Rowlet, 2.Litten, 3.Popplio for me. I don’t hate any of them, I’ll save that emotion for Alolan Fugtrio and Persian.
I actually started to really like it, simply because the starters this time around seem to be bursting with personnality =D though I’m still going with Rowlet
I’d like it if it didn’t look like every fire starter apart from delphox and if it wasn’t quadrupedal. It’s so cruel… last THREE gens they’ve started out on all 4s and then progressed to bipedal. It’s like they’re doing it on purpose…
Even though it’s actually connected to her top, it’s kinda funny how from the back it looks like Plumeria is wearing a thong.
Haha I also noticed that! Totally not E for everyone lol
What if marshadow is what is underneath a Mimikyu?
It’s not
HE has to have a full form. Just like the puñalada and sol have the baby form.
Well Komala doesnt evolve so
Yeah. But marshadows is part of the whole mascot team. They all normally fit the same theme (birds, beasts, weather, etc )
YES IT DOES, LET ME HAVE MY DREAMS
No it totally does evolve, it just hasn’t been leaked yet.
Didn’t notice him before, but there’s a guy next to the Pokemon Center that says he’ll give us something tomorrow and only tomorrow.
This pokedex isn’t complete, Komala can’t be a stand-alone pokemon :c he deserves to evolve.
Neither does Minior, Pyukumuku, and some other pokemon that I’m forgetting.
Plus the credible leaks, some stuff is missing.
Plus the gamexplain stuff.
Plus something else I’m forgetting.
Wow I’m really forgetful right now.
Woo, new avatar. Don’t know if I’ll keep it or not, it seems kinda blurry.
Looks good to me!
It doesn’t look as blurry and pixelly as I expected it to, great!
Yeah it looks cool, I like it 🙂
Thanks!
I’m leaving for a bit, see ya!
There are not anymore Pokemon. Sorry it just isn’t happening. I know it’s disappointing, but just get over it and learn to like these guys. The Chinese leaks could have been mistranslated. Snowman could have easily been referring to a yeti as in a yeti crab as in Crabrawler’s evo. And that Tapu is a dolphin. There are other types of Dolphin than just bottlenose ones. A Rugby monkey isn’t exactly what Passimian is either, but you don’t have people screaming out that that leak hasn’t come to fruition. Based on Hakomo-o’s pokedex number that was extracted with his base stats there is exactly the right number of Pokemon between Kommo-o and Volcanion that have been extracted. we have them all. It’s a done deal. There will likely be more in the third game/sinnoh remakes.
What were hakkamos base stats
Just found this on 4chan. Idk if it’s true or not. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c5c521f1b875a317fe6e37319c8b204d6390006cf74b719a9a819a48a1c57f83.png
Spoiler tags plus a mention of what the potential spoiler may contain would be nice, such as “Potential story spoiler”.
this is a bunch of sloppy crock
but i will give him a single credit that Marshadow’s unique typing is NO typing that would be unique
Lies.
If Wimpod’s evo is named Champod it’ll be the one pokemon I’ll never nickname.
Someone else already predicted ‘Champod’ so it’s probably fake.
That doesn’t mean it’s fake. Just what they thought it could be called.
It’s still possible. Unlikely, but possible.
It implies it’s fake because someone else is reusing something already suggested in a fake leak.
I predict most of these….but not UB 6 and UB7 I thought they Dark-steel and Ground -ghost respectively.
Are we going to be able to transfer the pokemon we catch in the demo? And also does anybody know if it’s shiny locked?
You don’t catch any.
But I can catch some by carat hill a guy gave me pokeballs. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/64ff25b127fe0c04dcb5527d4c586506addc601311d1f9833c0e4a3bdb0dfac7.jpg
Once you try to leave he force says you to release the
You don’t keep them.
You can’t keep the ones you catch. You release them as soon as you leave the area.
Aww?
Ewww torracat ….
Gasp! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e92eb92a859288444d5083ea75cc863d08304b37666140265d65fec2afcdede1.gif
I can’t forgive it for what it becomes. Torracat itself is good, still not as good as litten though
Torracat is ok, its evolved form is hideous.
You can watch Marshadow upside down and it still does look like a pokemon 🙂
Mahalo trail has some decent music lol
Ten carat hill’s music is gorgeous.
Am I the only one who has ZERO problems with all of the things that have been introduced into Sun/Moon? I swear, people are so picky about these games. I’m just glad GF is trying something new, and while some of their decisions may not have been the best I can still respect the effort that they have put into these games.
This has me 100% hyped. Anything else at this point is just icing on the delicious cake that is Sun and Moon! Plus, I think trials will be pretty fun!
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1654d9ceac84a06c7474c82750b731aab2f262760fa9611855ae740d686e15ce.png
You probably are the only one.
As for new things, some of us were happy with the old stuff.
Alolan Fugtrio = 0.32% effort
I was expecting Alolan diglett and Dugtrio to be above the surface if they were given an Alola form. I was very wrong. Lol
That would have been cool
Would at least have made them a bit better, even if they kept the hair.
Mhm..
Tbh I don’t mind it too much. That’s probably because I wasn’t expecting it to magically become Ice type or anything like a lot of people have been.
I think it’s frivolous like alolan Exeggcutor and makes an otherwise boring Pokemon a bit less boring.
I didn’t want it going Ice type too, I just think it’s lazy, completely ridiculous(seriously how will they explain it?) and still boring.
They’ve given up on explaining things as of Raichu.
And my money is still on it pretending to be Yungoos to scare off other pokemon.
God forbid we each have our own opinions.
I never said you couldn’t? I just stated the obvious that some people are picky. I can understand the viewpoints of most people’s problems with the games, but some people flat out just complain about every single thing.
If we just all sat here and agreed on everything the world would be a pretty boring place.
I never said everyone had to agree? As I said, I can see the points people make about certain things (Litten being bipedal, Alolan Formes, etc.) and why it upsets them. I personally, just haven’t been adversely affected by any of the things revealed/added.
“People are so picky” sounds like an attack IMO.
I don’t see how, but okay.
I think most people are happy overall,but there are some things which they could have easily resolved. I think it’s okay if people express dissapoinment though, some points are quite valid ( another bipedal fire starter, small Dex etc.)
You don’t have a problem with the fact that two types were completely neglected other than reskinned Gen 1 Pokemon.
I dunno. There’s plenty to not to be too fond of, but I guess there’s also plenty to keep most people happy.
I will agree my favorite type (Dark) got shafted this gen. :/
I think that’s actually my biggest pet peeve. No balance to the Pokemon types.
I didn’t even get any Steel Types bar 2 legends and Pika Clone.
And an alolan.
Whoop de doo
GF were hoping everyone would embrace the alolan Pokemon as if they were new Pokemon.
And that’s what’s really getting to me. People will always quickly point out the Alolans as soon as I let my grievance be known.
I mean, at least a Pokémon I like(Muk) became a Dark type so it’s not too horrible.
But still pretty bad. :/
It was a decent idea that was wasted. Even if it was limited to Kanto, there were plenty of options to reinvent and give relevancy to Pokemon but instead we got re-colouring of Pokemon.
Tbh if they weren’t just recolourings with a bit of difference they might as well be new pokemon entirely.
I wouldn’t have minded a more vibrant colored Abra line who became a Dark type and the spoons changed to knives. Lol! But, perhaps that’s a bit too dark for kids. XD
That’s what I’ve come to realise. Instead of 18 lazy designs of old Pokemon, we could have received brand new Pokemon of their typings. Then we wouldn’t be upset about the lack of new Pokemon and in particular the absence of dark and ice types.
I feel like I need to give up on ice ever getting fair treatment.
I have a problem with Alolan Dugtrio. Besides that I’m happy with everything they’ve included, even though I’m still processing these designs.
Anyone else like the Alola Geodude line?
i want to know typing and just more about it in general, but designs look cool
The general consensus is electric/rock so far.
I like the magnetite/ lodestone inspiration, as for design, that’s another story.
anybody else trying to get somebody to evolve in the demo? i figure 30’s is high enough level for atleast one of them to evolve by level up…3/4 of the way up a level on pikipek
It won’t work, there’s a cap.
Apparently hakkamos base stats were revealed ? What are they? I reallly want to know as I can’t see how they’ll make this guy strong offensively and defensively
Somewhere in here: https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/581sas/updated_info_on_data_mining/?st=iug1umy7&sh=08b441fb#spoiler
I just realized something that 100% convinces me we don’t have all the pokemon: we don’t have the strange souvenir pokemon/the pokemon on the tikis on Mahalo trail. Sure, they were never really confirmed to be pokemon, but if they’re everywhere then there has to be some significance to them.
So apparently Jangmo-o dex number was found to be 782. If you put all the pokemon within it and Volcanion the number fits perfectly:
722 Rowlet
723 Dartrix
724 Rowlet3
725 Litten
726 Torracat
727 TonyTiger
728 Popplio
729 Brionne
730 Poppulosity
731 Pikipek
732 Piki2
733 Piki3
734 Yungoos
735 Gumshoos
736 Grubbin
737 Charjabug
738 Vikavolt
739 Crabrawler
740 YetiCrab
741 Oricorio
742 Cutiefly
743 Ribombee
744 Rockruff
745 Lycanroc
746 Wishiwashi
747 Sea Urchin
748 Urchin2
749 Mudbray
750 Mudsdale
751 BubbleSpider
752 BubbleSpider2
753 Fomantis
754 Lurantis
755 Morelull
756 Moremorelull
757 Salandit
758 Slutandit
759 Stufful
760 Bewear
761 Bounsweet
762 Steenee
763 Tsareena
764 Comfey
765 Oranguru
766 Passimian
767 Wimpod
768 MegaWimpod
769 Sandygast
770 Palossand
771 Pyukumuku
772 Type:Null
773 Silvally
774 Minior
775 Komala
776 Turtonator
777 Togedemaru
778 Mimikyu
779 Bruxish
780 Drampa
781 Stangeanchorthing
782 Jangmo-o
783 Hakamo-o
784 Kommo-o
785 Tapu Koko
786 Tapu 2
787 Tapu 3
788 Tapu 4
789 Baby Solgaleo
790 Baby Lunala
791 Solgaleo
792 Lunala
793 UB-01
794 UB-02
795 UB-02
796 Ultra4
797 Ultra5
798 Ultra6
799 Ultra7
800 Ultra8
801 Magearna
802 Marshadow
Yay, at least we barely broke 800!
theres still hiddens one tho
There are?
i think so, i think 7?
What do you mean by that though? Why aren’t they in the demo?
http://i.imgur.com/VA9IrsN.jpg
People say totems, I don’t believe they are however.
i can’t either why would mimikyu have two next to it while the rest has 1
People say it’s because it has the pikachu form and then disguise lowered form. But there’s just too much evidence for this to be the full dex IMO.
A lot of those positions look like evolutions or pre-evolutions, but that one after Kommo-o could be some super-powerful pseudo.
Then explain Raticate and Zygarde https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e2d501397f2a31a550fc577624512125663d6923ca56df0e8e03874e716e83fb.png https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a892e91ada552811055122417e9bc9555da70ab31ac4a81ed9c4ab78468a0c8c.jpg
If you refer to the question marks, those are quite surely totem pokemon models, as there’s one between Raticate and Spearow and we know there’s no one between them in the pokedex
But still there are two behind Mimikyu and none behind Wishiwashi?
Mimikyu has 2 models.
Cause Mimikyu has two normal models, one with the head on and one with the head down when it activates its ability. Porbably wishiwashi school form is already considered as a totem pokemon, calling allys to create it
Then why isn’t the Gumshoos we’ve seen considered a totem? Literally all a “totem” is is orange aura.
I meant that Wishiwashi school form is actually a wishiwashi calling allys to create it which is what a totem pokemon does. Gumshoos is a normal pokemon, it does not call allys to create a new form so it gets the orange light
But Wishiwashi School Form is a completely new sprite, while Gumshoos only gets the orange aura? It doesn’t add up and we’ll see soon enough.
Plus there’s only 6 here and we know of at least 7 trial captains.
I’m glad someone gets me. I believe we have two scenarios:
1) They are new Pokémon;
2) The data miners fooled us.
Scenario 1 is most likely. We have more than 1 datamined I think, and that’d be hard to pull off.
could u go on discord?
in like few minutes
Sure.
How would you explain the question mark between Raticate and Spearow where we know for sure there’s nothing?Those are for totems, sorry
I can’t. And you can’t explain the Wishiwashi. We’ll just see.
Actually I could. None of the other Totem have forms. Wishiwashi has a form where It call other wishiwashi to help and actually create a totem form. Wishiwashi school form is already more powerful than normal wishiwashi like all totem are stronger then their normal form
No god that’s stretching it too much. Ulgh I can’t with you anymore, sorry.
Also consider that people who played the game said that not all trials involve fighting pokemon, so the water starters could be just to discover that wishiwashi is in the sea and has a school form.
water trial, sorry
And before anyone accuses me of miscounting, Mimikyu’s 2 are just 1.
Lurantis, Gumshoos/Raticate/ Salandit2, Jangmo-o3, Mimikyu, Vikavolt, Wishiwashi school form
I would assume all totems get the orange light, that makes zero sense if they don’t.
so why wouldnt wishiwashi have a question mark if it has two forms?
and fun fact Mimikyu, down form is actually in the files as its shiny so why would it not be for its regular https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b242719b47b4e0c4a7c50c98e09339c3d660556fc309c90ed9e0f2732929f4ce.png
The wishiwashi thing is a good point.
You know what? I just thought of something. Mimikyu is obviously a Totem, but what had me confused was why it had two ? next to it. It just hit me! The second one would be for the drooping version of it’s model lol
we saw the the drooping verison in files already though so it’s not the gap 😛
Source of the number?
A member of Serebii staff on forum.
I mean where did they get it? From what I’ve heard dataminers say that dex numbers are scrubbed.
Can’t say I’m surprised. Many of the leaks and rumors we got were saying that there were more, but by much in terms of Pokemon when compared to XY. Seems about right to me.
How do you hide text with the grey box thing?
Text here no spaces
oh ok lol