I’ve made a YouTube video regarding the image which surfaced earlier today allegedly revealing the final evolutions of Rowlet, Litten and Popplio in Pokémon Sun & Moon. Also included is my own opinion about whether or not I believe these images are real or not.
<3 PJ
ps- spoilers: I think it’s fake
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on a side note I wonder if PSMD really is the last PMD game
I’m hoping there’s another but PSMD for lack of a better word felt final
It does feel that way, but I would love more PMD games.
As well as a Ranger game.
I could go for another ranger game
I’ve only played Shadows of Almia though :/
Shadows of Almia is the best of the three. Although the other two are good as well.
Just imagine 3D Ranger game. Yes, all the yes
now i’m wondering why we don’t have our 3d ranger game yet
I dunno either. Maybe the side company who makes it just didn’t want to do it, or Guardian Signs didn’t do so well. I dunno, it would be awesome.
I don’t know why they would do this though. I may be wrong, but I thought PMD was very successful. The first two PMD games are two of my favorite games of all time, though I dislike the most recent two. I felt like the first two had better story and were more emotional, which I love (especially explorers of time/darkness, I love those games).
Yeah it’s just I’m not sure where you have to go when the story kinda centers around the entire PokEarth
unless PMD is going into space which I am DEFINITELY BEHIND
Honestly when has PMD ever had continuity?
well I mean there’s Team Skull in PSMD and Wigglytuff and Chatot just saying
Wait really? I couldn’t punish myself to finish the game.
you do a orb quest for wigglytuff where chatot is missing and you need to rescue Chatot
when you return Wigglytuff is happy and says time for Chatot to get some Perfect Apples iirc
it was something like that but it’s pretty obvious
I hope. We need new Ranger games. Screw MD.
yeah MD has 4 games while Ranger has 3
we need to bring balance to the force
I’ve always considered MD trash. The music is good though. I just don’t understand why it’s popular. Most people I know only play for the story, but I mean they could put the MD story into a manga…
yeah but you could make that excuse for any game that has a good story about putting it into a manga or a book
but the difference is that a game is interactive which is why it’s in that format
I mean I understand your point gameplay still matters
Gameplay is awful and slow. It’s unnecessary. When you play anyway. It’s mostly dialogue
well I like the gameplay but that’s just me
although I think the dialogue and the story sell it more than the game which I can get behind
I mean nobody plays games like To The Moon for gameplay but by god it has one of best stories in all of gaming
This is somewhat of a repost of something I said earlier, but I want to add onto it to so here I go.
If these are not real, I highly believe that Rowlet will become an archer. My evidence for this claim is as follows:
1. Rowlet is the ‘Grass Quill Pokemon’. This is overall my weakest evidence, but I quills are like arrows, so there’s that.
2. Leafage is a leaf barrage, much like a barrage of arrows. Plus, the animation for Leafage looks very much like an arrowhead being vaulted at the opponent.
3. What if the ‘row’ in Rowlet is actually from the word arrow? If I remember correctly, Rowlet’s name origin is not known currently, so it could be an arrow owlet.
If you have any thoughts on this or evidence for or against please let me know. I’m pretty proud of this, as this is really the only theory I’ve ever crafted on my own, so this is exciting for me to post this.
I joked that it’s like russian Rowlet. I like this a lot though!
Thanks! It started with thinking about Leafage, and suddenly the revelations were coming to me.
That makes sense. No one knows fully what the Row part means. I always thought it was based on Rowan, since the Japanese name has wood as a part of its name.
I could see it. Not how it is in this concept art though. I think it would simply be flapping its wings and the Arrow shaped feathers would be fired from them
This actually makes sensw
This is so exciting that people actually like this! It’s not everyday that I come up with a theory this plausible, and one that I believe genuinely.
I know right?!
Oh crap, that is why it’s called Rowlet. Very interesting.
I think I’m onto something here.
This makes so much sense. I would actually be suprised if this doesn’t turn out to be true.
This makes a lot of sense good thinking. Now I really want to know more about these starters just to see if this turns out to be true.
When do we think Corocoro will leak this month?
Usually leaks between the 10th-15th so sometime around there
Sweet thanks! I know someone asks this every month and I always read that post, but sometimes the days change due to how the days fall on the calendar so I was just checking!
I think a few days before E3.
I don’t really care. As long as I get juicy news.
All right! I found a Sap Sipper Miltank! 😀
Of course, I duskballed it first.
Since the Psuedo-Legendary is probably to be something Dragon type or Dragon like (Tyranitar) lets hear those concepts you guys got/want
Dragon-Poison or Dragon-Fairy
I want a dragon for each type
I am a simple Quilava with simple wishes :3
Dragalge exists… <3
And Megaltaria exists but I guess megas don't count.
yeah sorry i forgot about that one
>_> I forgot about a lot of what little Gen 6 has sry
Well there are so many Pokemon I can’t blame anyone for forgetting one or two…
Hmm… I don’t think we have a Psychic/Dragon yet. That’d be cool to explore. And this space-themed game looks like the best time for it.
ah cmon we have the best duo for that type :3
Latias and Latios
See, point made, I forgot those existed. 😀
Goodra should’ve been Poison/Dragon imo
That is true, that would’ve really put poison in the spotlight.
I kept thinking it was Poison/Dragon when I saw the images
Why
It’s goo you unobservant sh*t
So all puddles of goo are poisonous
http://static.api6.studiobebop.net/pokemon_data/pokemon_images/Muk.png
Ditto (not pictured) isn’t poisonous in its usual form though.
that’s a good point
but I don’t know how else you’d make the copycat pokemon look like by default
Foxes or tanuki are known shapeshifters, They’d work. But yeah, less “obvious” to the kids than a shapeshifting pile of goo.
yeah huh
and tying this to an ongoing discussion why don’t we have a tanuki pokemon eitherIsn’t Bibarel (though not a shapeshifter) a combination Tanuki and Beaver?
more beaver really
not sure where the Tanuki inspiration is…
oh wait that’s why they didn’t make a tanuki pokemon
because people didn’t like bidoof
Bibarel’s tail seems more tanuki-like than beaver-like, but I guess that’s it…
you’re kinda right the tail does look like a tanuki’s
ITS A GODDAMN BEAVER ARE U FREAKING BLIND?
http://pokeunlock.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/bibarel-1.gif
the black-orange-black tail looks a bit like a tanuki’s black-orange-black tail just saying
Eh….the colors kind of match but raccoon dogs don’t have a flattened tail
That statement cannot be any more wrong
It’s a doofy beaver, with zero raccoon or tanuki
*swats you with a rolled up newspaper*
Bad Malco
Isn’t Bibarel awful?
you be quiet
Bibarel was the best slave ever
Bibarel/Tropius are the best duo
you just described zoroark
Goodra looks pretty poisonous to me.
Well then again I base all my Pokemon on origins and what they really are
Not by looks alone
damn man that’s smooth 😉
They could’ve made Goomy out of poisonous goo.
Coulda shoulda woulda
It’s better as a Dragon
It’d be better as Poison AND Dragon.
Nahhhh it’s not changing anytime soon
Never said it would lol
goodra lives in mud and wetlands. just because its dripping in “goo” doesnt mean its poisonous becuase all thing gooey are not toxic. goodra has no connections with the posion type and has more connections with water
Literally based on slugs…which I have never met a poisonous one. Drizzle some salt and we’ll….yeah
Don’t want it to be dragon type.
Maybe Rock/Something?
So maybe something along the lines of Aerodactyl?
Maybe. I think something like Rock/Ghost would be interesting.
I’ve been tinkering with a Ghost in a stone urn
Really? You should sell it to a museum.
It steals your soul if you leave it alone
A rock monster that haunts you… Hmmm, we already got one of those ;3
I see you’ve already left it alone
Dragon/ Grass- Mega Sceptile doesnt count. Sorry…
yes plz
Or make Tropius into a mega grass/dragon and I’ll be happy.
should’ve happened already tbh
yeah because everything about tropius screams dragon
It’s the bananas….a mega would contain Dragon fruit => Dragon/grass lol omg if GF did that!
fire, water, grass dragon trio that are not legendaries. i never use legendary pokes in real battles – it just seems like cheating in competitive play
The trio from the pokémon Sage pokédex fits this description, and boy are they awesome. I would give a lot for those to be real. If you haven’t seen them definitely go check them out, unless you were just thinking of them in the first place haha.
Alright something never said
Dragon/Fire
A red drake with near endless Fire power
I cannot remember a pokemon that was Dragon/Fire…
Reshiram
It just would be a hot headed fire dragon
A dragon based on chinese dragons(pure dragon type), a sea dwelling dragon(water/dragon), a loch ness monster esque pokemon(dark/dragon or ghost/dragon) and a grass/dragon type pokemon
yeah why do we not have a sea dragon? i mean i know what happened with the whole gyrados thing but they couldve surely made up for it by now
Dragon/Steel please.
when the lord of time isn’t enough jk jk
I like Dialga but we need another.
I just had the thought of a Mecha Dragon too
oh no way I cannot pass this up
I want a mecha dragon now
plz gamefreak
a steel dragon would be delightful!
any new typing combination would be welcomed by me
Dialga
Mega druddigon and haxprus plz
I have a concept
Not dragon ?
Lets hear it. What you got bud?
A normal/ghost pseudo
Also, if these are indeed real, I’m changing my mind and calling it that Tiger3 is part dark type.
Since every type tends to have colors (besides Flying, fighting, bug) that most pokemon fit (i.e. fire-red, water-blue) etc. and traits most exhibit (fairy-cutesy/elegant, steel- defensive/sturdy, electric- slick/fast), Tiger3 shows qualities of Dark types and colors associated more with this type as well. Now I know not every pokemon fits this pattern, but hear me out:
Tiger3 gets its red coloring from fire obviously, as well as the darker coloring associated with dark type. It is darker colored than any of the other fire/fighting type starters.
Its menacing appearance recalls that of Weavile, Mightyena, Zoroark, and Drapion.
Now, the wrestling moves featured are a great argument against this (see Hawlucha for reference…) but this isnt the first time a pokemon appears a certain way or behaves a certain way and then actually belongs to a different type- (see Flygon…Charizard, etc.)
The main reason for this post is to keep hope ALIVE for a non-fire/fighting…
Again I hate how people use color rather then what the thing is based on
Emboar has a lot of black and it’s a Fighting type
Like how Luxray isn’t part Dark since it has nothing evil about it
This fire evolution looks more dark type than Emboar.
But it’s still using wrestling and physical combat
You just can’t accept Fire/Fighting
Because it’s overused, yeah.
Fire/Dark would be more interesting, since black cats bring bad luck.
Tell that to the freaking Luchador Tiger with a champ belt made of fire
I bet the flame gets bigger with more victories
That doesn’t make Fire/Fighting not overused.
Easy for kids to get past rock gyms
fair point
But that doesnt mean its not overused and lame.
wait couldn’t you just get through rock gyms with Fire/Ground instead?
or Fire/Steel?
Or Fire/Dark as well since rock doesn’t resist it?
How does Dark beat rock
Because rock doesn’t resist it. How about reading my comment?
Why just do normal damage when you can do super effective
Why do something unoriginal over something unique?
And besides that who the hell said the first gym was going to be rock type?!
well to give credit where it’s due
Gen 1’s first gym was rock
Gen 4’s first gym was rock
if this pattern of every 3 generations wants to keep up it might be gen 7 too
although that evidence is hardly conclusive
Gen 3’s first was rock too.
ok then nevermind
Gen 3 was rock
Theory broken
so now there’s no evidence
I get the strangest feeling you don’t want to agree with me on fire/ground and you’re just looking for what you disagree with
Nope I just naturally disagree
oh ok
:/
that’s no fun
Well why do you think I call myself “The Down To Earth Trainer”
No nonsense and I value traditions and formulas
well at least you’re consistent I’ll give you that
And stubborn
stubborn sounds like more of a unfavorable word
consistency sounds better
FYI, “Down to Earth” means humble, and that you are not.
I didn’t
Roxanne Rock Combusken
Roark Rock Monferno
Granted The trio wasn’t but I can’t vouch for Gamefreak’s ways all the time it is what it is
Gen 1 Brock.
You could just give a Fire/Dark Tiger Metal Claw if the first gym was rock too…
They did that for FireRed
Just proves that they will give trainers a hand
you just gave evidence against you
they’ll give trainers a hand
so why do you need the fire/fighting when they’ll give you a hand
So did you just ague against your reasoning to make a fire/ fighting type so it’s easy for the first gym if they can just give trainers a hand with a specific move?
Well they couldn’t change Charmeleon’s typing
And this only happens in FireRed
But honestly it’s just done, those Fire/Fighting types will exist until the end of time, and if Litten ends up that brute I’ll be enjoying the shitstorm
Yeah but we don’t know if the first gym will be rock tho. We have no info on any gym leaders at all.
So why assume there will be a rock gym when gyms haven’t even been mentioned yet?
I’m not assuming I’m theorizing why the Fire/Fighting and it checks out
They’re not making the games for us it’s always the newer generation
And at those times the Fire type was stopped by the first rock gym
So they gave them fighting to semi resist the rock and then super-effective Stab Fighting moves
Right, but once again. We don’t know if we’ll get a rock gym first at all. For all we know, it could be Fairy. That’s just as likely as rock because we have nothing.
Heck, they could do a BW thing again, with the first gym being like that.
We don’t know yet.
I actually like that BW thing it was a good way for newcomers to learn types quickly and less painlessly
Did I say that it’s a rock gym no
Gen 3 was rock they gave us Combusken
gen 4 first gym rock Monferno
I’m talking about earlier gyms
There’s other ways around it besides giving it s fighting type. Metal claw was your own example and I’m sure there are plenty more. I’m just offering a counter argument that maybe it’s fire/ dark. Why you gotta argue for an exhausted type combo that no one wants?
For one I like it
And two take it up with Gamefreak
And three the Metal Claw logic though stands I am referring to later games
Which honestly doesn’t apply anymore because they’re done, Sun and Moon might pop out another Fire/Fighting and I would support them
Personally, I don’t ever choose the fire starter so I don’t care that much. It’s a bit of a bummer that three gens all used fighting for their fire starter, but ultimately, if the design fits, I’ll take it. I was just trying to offer a point in a different direction.
There’s the whole Son Wukong and Zhul aspect
wut
What they are based on
Okay?
yeah but you already have that now
so why are you against fire/ground
I thought you liked ground
hmm im getting the strangest vibe that you may not want to agree with me
IT’S ALMOST LIKE I HAVE YOU IN BETWEEN A ROCK AND A HARD PLACE
I couldn’t resist sorry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZHvd0ks7Es
or you just don’t want to talk to me that’s fine too
I believe we call that a Ignoratio elenchi ;P
For you lazy english speakers “Missing the Point” fallacy, or changing the subject 😉
You have a point. I’m not denying the moves shown and the design point to fighting type, but I also pointed out that sometimes Pokemon don’t fit what we expect like Flygon and Charizard. I’m just trying to offer a different viewpoint based on previous patterns seen in the last six gens.
No, you don’t understand what THEY ARE
Flygon is always meant to be a Ground type
And they made Charizard a flying type so it wouldn’t be so overpowered
Flygon makes complete sense as both a ground/ dragon type and a bug/ dragon type. Tiger3 works as fire/ fighting and fire/ dark imo.
Charizard wouldn’t really be overpowered with a dragon type though.
We already have Alakazam, and besides that Charmander gets shit on by the first two gyms so dragon could justifyit’s early crappines.
I may be off by a few digits but I think there’s about 10 of those
No he’s right. I didnt once state that pokemon can be based off of their qualities too (besides color). Nor did I state there were exceptions to a rule. Nope. Never. 😛
Like I said, there are exceptions to every rule… a lot of pokemon have coloring that fits a pattern. a good percentage of poison types are purple, ground has a lot of tans, steel is well…the color of steel. There are always exceptions dude.
honestly the argument above is the dumbest thing ive ever heard, amplified with the fact that its really stupid and sad that anyone thinks these are real. do you really gamefreak is goong to let one of the most significant game reveals leak before basically anything else?? and thats only the tip of the iceberg as to why these are obviously fake. you guys gotta do better
What else should we talk about? I’m bored. It’s late. Thought I’d speculate on a fake as if it was real. And you can’t deny the color and behavior patterns for types.
Well I know these things are protected by NDAs, but (actual) leaks can happen because some rogue employee decides to be a leaker at the risk of his job; a random guy acquires a copy of Corocoro too early, etc.
here’s a question
why don’t we have a dolphin pokemon yet?
Best question ever.
Ora platypus for that matter.
isn’t dunsparce basically making fun of platypus?
What are you talking about Dunsparce is clearly the secret dolphin-wolf hybrid pokémon everyone wants.
Gen 8 Water starter 2019, calling it right now.
And it will be on the next handheld console!! Ahhhhh the future of Pokemon excites me!
maybe next generation we’ll go from 3D models to VR?
I can dream
I think it will be an HD console that resembles the 3DS in some way. HD will still be beautiful for Pokemon. I imagine Gen 8 will be a bit like Gen 6, in that they are still trying to grasp the technology, while Gen 9 will be much more visually stunning (much like Gen 7). I’m looking way too far into the future…thanks, eye #3.
Aren’t Psyduck/Goldduck basically playtpi?
I think those are just ducks
Look at all the ducks we give~
More like ducks TBH
Psy/Golduck body shape is closer to platypi than ducks though.
Compared with Ducklett, an actual duck…
I mean yeah they seem to be somewhere between platypi and ducks, but I think we all want a proper platypus. The ‘Duck like is nice as it’s own thing, but it neglects so many cool aspects of platypi it’s just not a sufficient representation for the the pokémon world.
Because we want a dolphin pokemon
GF hates dolphins.
https://youtu.be/JGepBtBCuTY
A better question is why we have Sigilyph and not a good koala or dolphin.
omg that too
why no koalas?
GF hates dolphins and Australia
bwahahahahahahaha
Hey I used to think Siglyph was strange, but since it’s actually a hummingbird (so we do have one hahaha)… A Nazca hummingbird… I think it’s pretty damn cool that it’s a thing (despite how much I hate fighting them on showdown). I do want a real Hummingbird, but don’t go dissing Sigilyph. Go diss Audino or the sage monkeys, the real pokedex space wasters…
I don’t know but now would be the perfect opportunity because of the Alola region and since GF has made special overworld surfing sprites for Wailmer, Lapras, Kyogre and Sharpedo, I think it’d be a great opportunity for the dolphin Pokemon to exist and make surfing really cool in Alola.
Surfing sprites have always been Wailmer really
My Wishlist:
Koala
Peacock
Dolphin
Manatee
Tiger (fingers crossed on this one for crying out loud)
Flamingo (Damn you, Spritzee potential…)
Hummingbird
Llama
Raccoon
Humpback Whale
Armadillo
Red Panda
Arctic Wolf
Pretty generic but oh well…
I was excited for Spritzee but then it turned into Aromatisse.
Also Ice/Dark Wolf yes please
I want a grass hummingbird with a bright lily flower for a beak that looks like it’s playing a brass instrument with the petals forming the bell of the ‘instrument.’ I’ll call it: Trumpetal.
I want the Koala, Peacock, and Arctic Wolf
Technically Spinda is a red Panda (though it’s about as satisfying a representation as Psyduck and Golduck would be of Platypi), and Zigzagoon seems to be at some sweet spot between racoon and tanuki. That being said more pokémon from these inspirations would be highly welcome, and awesome list!
I was gonna try and finish Leafgreen tonight, but got distracted by my bae EarthenWarrior <3
Gonna grind a bit more and then sleep. Bye!
PS: Love how Earthen says he's no nonsense but thinks HM's are a good idea heh
And I enjoy watching what happens with my bowl of popcorn. *eats popcorn*
Yeah, because he’s a bit old-fashioned. He doesn’t like changing up any formulas he sees.
However, just because it’s the way it’s been done before doesn’t mean it’s efficient or the best way to go.
I really wish that we had an Unown Pokedex instead of a Rotom Pokedex. I think it would match the tribal Hawaiian theme a little better, and I just think Unown is better. I don’t know the purpose of this post anymore.
I think Unown isn’t popular enough for that. Guess that’s their reason (and of course Rotom using all these objects already).
Finally beat Cynthia in Diamond after ~20 hours! This game truly is dead easy, even with Torterra. Either way, I still love Sinnoh for its music, its Pokemon, and its atmosphere. Onto SoulSilver sometime in the future!
Well, I think it’s a lot harder than the other regions.
I just created two gym leaders as to what I hope for in Sun and Moon. The male surfer is the gym leader that specializes in Water-Types and owns an aquarium/rock pools and his staff recieves admission fees from customer to enter his gym/aquarium/Rock pools and battle him. The female mechanic is the gym leader that specializes in Steel-Types and owns a automobile repair shop as the Alola region features more cars now. She has a tomboy feature and don’t mind getting messy. I chose water and steel be chase they’re both my favorite types!
Okay guys we need to figure out this Generation 7 gave us the new starter Pokemon but the final evolution has us in a stump we need to find out more clues clues that can definitely help us the connection between these new starter evolutions so anybody got any good ideas because E3 is around the bend and we need to figure out what does the final evolution for these gen 7 starters because these guys now are based on the circus and the movies but we still need more clues the more interesting these Evolutions are there more further we can definitely see what Pokemon sun and moon will give us next.
Do you ever use commas, semicolons and question marks?
yes.
Lmfao
I actually never get your comments
Well in short we need more clues final evolution of the new starter Pokemon.
Are these fake yet?
Also, I might make a reaction video
Sadly, not yet.
Probably not for a while. I mean, Serebii thinks they’re fake as well, but we can only know for sure when the real ones are revealed, when the games come out. Blaziken is the only fully evolved starter to be revealed prerelease, none of the Gen 4-6 starters were.
Wow these suck
still team litten, i wish there was fan art of that last evolution
I think it’s real. This reminds me a lot of Samurott.
Yes please! Popplio finalf form is gorgeous *v*