Hello thots. I am the (in)famous HeavyMetalFairy – mainly known for my crazy theories and gimmicky strategies. Everyone pretty much knows my Smeargle for being a nightmare – mainly because 90% of the time my opponents allow me to set up Geomancy. But when the official first ever PJN tourney was announced, I knew Junglian’s would expect me to run my Geo-Smeargle set, so I figured… why not change its move pool up a bit – and run a full on Baton Pass team. Something I always wanted to do. I’ve been battling competitively since Gen 4, running Baton Pass Ninjask to help set up good physical sweepers that needed the speed – and as time passed with new moves & niche’s I discovered my buddy Smeargle.
So for the PJN tourney I studied upon a good baton pass chain, and figured out one that I could use. A lot of people may think you have no skill for running a full baton pass(BP) team, and may think it’s cheap, but teams are subjective so to each their own. Baton Passing allows me to max out a Pokémon’s potential and exploit the limits of a Pokemon. I’ve always been drawn to that notion. I love chain-sweeping. Unfortunately, in the PJN, I didn’t get a chance to show my full potential because I broke my game (wore down the gold contacts of it) which forced me to forfeit from the tourney since my game didn’t make it back in time. Now… let’s check out the team I used:
Team Overview
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Scolipede
Ability: Speed Boost (HA)
Held Item: Mental Herb
Nature: Timid
IVS: 31/0/31/31/31/31
Moveset:
-Iron Defense
-Protect
-Substitute
-Baton Pass
Ninjask who? Scolipede, the monster, gets Ninjask’s job done much better now that it has Speed Boost (I don’t know what 5th gen was thinking giving it Quick Feet). Much better bulk, and can absorb toxic spikes if it has too. I usually lead off with Scolipede, specially when I’m expecting my opponent to lead off with Ferrothorn. There is nothing Ferro can do. Set up a substitute while it goes for the leech seed, then proceed to trying to get a +6 defense with 3 uses of Iron Defense. Someone wants to “Taunt” you? Laugh at them as Mental Herb washes the effect of Taunt away. It’s needed for all the Prankster users.
EV Spread: 240 HP / 80 Def / 188 Speed
1 protect and you will outspeed Max Jolly Garchomp.
Sylveon
Ability: Pixelate (HA)
Held Item: Leftovers
Nature: Calm
IVS: 31/0/31/31/31/31
Moveset:
-Calm Mind
-Stored Power
-Hyper Voice
-Baton Pass
The two sweepers of my team are Sylveon and Espeon. If I see a lot of Dark types or dragon types on the opponent’s team then I’m forced to try to sweep with Sylveon. You’re ruined if Shedinja is on the opponent’s team though. Apart from that, Sylveon is immensely powerful. Specially with defense & speed boosts from scolipede to make Stored Power stronger.
EV Spread: 216 HP / 208 Def / 84 Speed
At a +2 speed you will outspeed anything slower than a base 112. You don’t want to catch these Hyper Voices though. The defensive investments whilst keeping a Calm nature allows it to take hits from both physical & special dishers.
Vaporeon
Ability: Water Absorb
Held Item: Leftovers/WacanBerry/RedCard
Nature: Bold
IVS: 31/0/31/31/31/31
Moveset:
-Acid Armor
-Roar
-Substitute
-Baton Pass
Arguably Vaporeon & Scolipede are the best defense boosters in the current meta. Specially Vaporeon because it doesn’t have a 4x weakness to anything, and will eat a Gyro Ball from a Ferrothorn if you’re baton passing from Scolipede into Vaporeon. If your enemy tries to set up on you – with, per-say, Dragon Dance, Roar them away and scout them in to a Pokémon that will allow you to further set up.
EV Spread: 192 HP / 252 Def / 64 Speed
Just a monstrously bulky Pokémon. Can take on pretty much any physical hits from any Pokémon – specially couped with Defense boosts. More defense to pass = higher base power for Stored Power.
Espeon
Ability: Magic Bounce (HA)
Held Item: Leftovers/RedCard
Nature: Calm
IVS: 31/0/31/31/31/31
Moveset:
-Calm Mind
-Stored Power
-Substitute/Shadow Ball
-Baton Pass
Espeon, one my sweepers, is a Pokémon I toyed with (EV-wise) on this team. It’s fragile physically, and at the time Aegislash & Talonflame were running wild (I see them less and less used now), so I believe for the PJN tourney I might have maxed out its defense but I’m not too sure. I would sometimes run a unique set with max HP and Defense investment, but I think for this tourney I might have run something different (check EV spread below). Esp is pretty much the poke that I try to send all the baton pass boosts over into. STAB Stored Power is amazing, and I replaced Substitute over time with Shadow Ball so I can have a way of hitting Shedinja & Aegislash. Red Card is too catch an opponent off guard and force switch them out while you set up another Calm Mind. And if I manage to set up Ingrain for recovery with Smeargle, I no longer need to fear Whirlwind or Roar from Skarmory & friends so then I’ll use Sylveon as my sweeper. If you want to run a full baton pass team, try testing these two spreads depending on what you fear the most:
EV Spread: 200 HP / 252 Def / 56 Sp Def
or
EV Spread: 200 HP / 56 Def / 252 Sp Def (I use this one more)
Smeargle
Ability: Own Tempo
Held Item: Focus Sash
Nature: Timid
IVS: 31/0/31/31/31/31
Moveset:
-Ingrain
-Quiver Dance
-Spore
-Baton Pass
Probably one of my top 5 favorite Pokémon of all time. Not only can it learn any move in the game, but it’s a fricken dog that paints with its tail. Can we get any more original than that? My more infamously known Smeargle runs Geomancy with a Power Herb, but this Smeargle I cherish as well – because it’s PERFECT for a full baton pass team. Ingrain is to make sure you can’t get roared or whirlwinded out (breaking your chain) and also for recovery. Spore your foe to sleep, set up a Quiver Dance and get the ball rolling.
EV Spread: 88 HP / 168 Def / 252 Speed
Mr. Mime
Ability: Soundproof
Held Item: Leftovers/Sitrus Berry
Nature: Calm
IVS: 31/0/31/31/31/31
Moveset:
-Calm Mind
-Encore
-Substitute
-Baton Pass
Perfect Pokemon for blocking sound moves (boom burst, roar, perish song, you name it). In the PJN tourney the first match I had was up against RioSpeedWagon, I lost miserably because I mispredicted his Mega Gengar using Perish Song (even forgot it could learn that) and trapped me with Shadow Tag ruining my chain. You have to be careful with your predictions when baton passing. 1 wrong move and you’re wrecked. I later replaced Mr. Mime with Zapdos (due to Talonflame & Pinsir) which I find works MUCH MUCH better. But I couldn’t swap out my Mime for Zapdos or else I would’ve been disqualified (we needed to keep same 6 through the whole tourney) – wish I had discovered Zapdos sooner. Mime still gets the job done, but it’s better to have another sweeper with my Sylveon & Espeon. Mime is great at locking poke’s in with Encore.
EV Spread: 252 HP / 240 Sp Def / 16 Speed
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Post-Tourney
I thought I would’ve done really well in the tourney if it wasn’t for my game having to under-go repair (which didn’t even happen at all, Nintendo sent me a completely new game). And I can’t wait until I re-build the same team again (minus mr. mime) … Just been busy with work and MM’ing and life in general. But once I get my team rolling again the community is in for some rage quits XD (mwahaha)…
Check out two battle video codes that I managed to save from the tourney to get a feel for how OP this team is:
Vs. Edgardo: G2ZG-WWWW-WWW8-NQZJ
Vs. Nathan: 3CGW-WWWW-WWW8-NR3N
The following video is not from the tourny, but is a demonstration of how great this team sweeps. 6-0 FTW! I’m surprised he didn’t rage quit:
Vs. Sergio: PYSG-WWWW-WWW9-ZTB5
Congrats to the winner of the tourney & everyone that participated. I had fun honestly. I thank you for reading this analysis of my PJN team and I hope you can face my next BP team in the future:
“The Mauville Ramen Bowl… I’m sure it will become the star of the Mauville Food Court!” So is Mauville a mall/contains a mall?
Wes?!?!?!?! I didn’t knownur back
Yup, I’m back! For now anyway. The hype for ORAS brought me back.
My tea boiling
Oh hey Ur back too ;/
Nope still on break. No flex zone
oh ok…. i was in the worst mood last night and i tired to talk to u and u made it even worse :/
I’m sorry. But you know about the issues I’m going through.
Plus my kik doesn’t make a noise when I get a message
well makes sense and sorry for what ur going through but im really pissed last night and right now 🙁
sometimes i wish if i had a problem u would be my person that doesn’t judge me
I really want to find some of these NPCs people are finding, like the Cardinal sister. I also want to get this secret mission!!! SO much stuff in this demo! I can’t wait for the games release!!!!!!
The cardinal sister was actually on one of the islands with the side missions. She didn’t have to be battled; she was only standing there.
She’ll probably be on Island 5 when I finally reach it. I know it’s random, which NPCs you get but I really want to meet them all!!
Are all the gym leaders meetable in the demo? I’ve found Liza&Tate, Roxanna, Brawly, and Flannery.
Wattson is somewhere
Awesome. I’ll keep my eyes peeled for him. I really want to see Winona and Wallace though.
they wouldnt be the in demo
Wattson is usually by the lookout cliff near the space center when I’ve found him
Spike Chunsoft recently filed a new trademark for Mystery Dungeon in Japan. New Mystery Dungeon confirmed?
WANT
Sorry for not being here as much as i used too… this website doesn’t really mix with my real life problems hope i get better one day 🙁
I found more confirmation of Sea Mauville if you guys are interested. A scientist says “I was sent to survey Sea Mauville at the request of Captain Stern. And I searched and searched but somehow ended up on this island! But the Scanner… I’ve got to find that Scanner…” So presumably Sea Mauville is not attached to Mauville City(Mall?) at all and possibly a seperate island or other place altogether.
Where are you guys finding these things? Do more people and things appear if you replay the demo?
yea
Isn’t Sea Mauville, Old Mauville? The place where Wattson asks you to go and shut down the generator?
It could be a whole city now though. At least thats what i thought it was,
That was New Mauville.
Sea Mauville is a new area.
The new “run” button is bothering me with it being asymmetrical and leaning to far to the right. :/
i tested its. its still square just the shape isnt
FULL CIRCLES!
whatever….
i like to button mash B and make Orlando run funny :3
did u just :3…. did i miss something?
i’m kinda on a sugar rush so bare with me
I like to use the creeping feture to do thriller.
I don’t know if i made a really smart choice or a really stupid one. I just bought a full set of the Bionicle Inika Toa and now i dont have money for smash u XD Xd
Legos. Meh. I could never finish the Bionicle sets.
How much did that cost? o.o
cost me 80 bucks. they come in there original boxes, all pieces(encludeing the spheres), the instruction manual, and were kept in mint contition.
MenacingCascoon is ready to Finish his MM 30
Will Houndour take as long as last time?
Find out on the Next Pokejungle Z!
no just no
Too late Already done
*spends two episodes watching the hatched shiny houndour before moving onto the next*
*more like 20*
Who would i be…..
i really don’t know any DBZ
Hmmmm…Nobody really suits you
At the try least Vegeta and thats because you both are always angry
very*
I’m only angry when something pisses me off
hes more a broly
Yes!
This works!!!!
I like This!!1
Earthen you are Broly
who or what is broly
Earthen this you
http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100710143957/dragonball/images/d/d1/DragonballZ-Movie08_1074.jpeg
Hey good looking
but my pecs are smaller……
Get what u get and u dont get upset
I believe it goes
“You get what you get, and you don’t throw a fit.”
my school taught me that
for earthen
“You get what you get, and you dont break a wall”
Yesterday the demo took me about 2 hours to compete ten times.
While I was very impressed with the character models and Hoenn’s 3D revamp, I was slightly disappointed at the recycled backgrounds from XY at times, and some noticeable in-battle lag even when the 3D was off. This was most frequent when I had a Mega Evolution in battle.
new 3ds will improve that most likely
Yeah,probably.
They felt like new backgrounds to me….
and it didn’t feel laggy to me, and I had 3D on. I noticed it in XY, in this demo I didn’t.
I hate Little Mac.
in the air he is A+S+S Tier tho….
I can’t even get him in the air because of his multiple counter moves.
If I do get him in the air though, I have a combo that send him straight down.
*people trade over 6IV fully EV trained shinies to ORAS*
“OMG THAT GAME WAS WAY TOO EASY!”
I see this too much
thats why i like doing the old fasion way of catching my team instead of making them
pitiful
I feel sorry for scudwads who have the nerve to bring 6IV Shiny Pokemon to a brand new game
it ruins the fun
Heavy be like
Hence why i don’t IV breed shiny pokemon (or any pokemon for that matter) 😛
Also because i don’t competitive
So i found some stuff about the demo. The exp you gain resets every time as well as any level(s) gained. max level is 40. And after your first playthrough the starter you chosen says “Met at level. 36” instead of level 35 like it should.
I know. That sucks. I really wanted to train my Glalie before I transferred it.
I am glad the shiny rate is back from X and Y 😀
Even though I don’t plan to MM that much in this game
I hope my Luck is Same or increased from X and Y
and heavys goes down :3
Personally, I don’t find anything wrong with Brendan’s run in OR/AS. I’m actually happy that the rollerskates don’t return.
However, the demo did not live up to the hype. I was expecting more intense battles, more experience grinding, a trial of the MultiNav…I guess my expectations were too high. The demo did get annoying after the 5th time, but I have completed it fully.
i felt they didnt need to play the trailer everytime when u beat it
Yes, this was a point I forgot to bring up.
It annoyed me every time they did that.
And the auto-save feature wasn’t great too.
You’re kinda forced to do a mission and then it will save.
I just wanna freely save, lol.
I think there was also a hit-and-miss, because they had a perfect opportunity to show off the Soar aspect of the games, but just had Steven do it was very annoying.
My favorite mission was the first one, TBH.
The ones after that were…eh.
It killed my hype for the main game
Well, I’m not going to go as far to say that it killed my hype entirely, but they definitely made a mistake with the overall demo. They really should’ve showcased some of the games’ most anticipated aspects, like the MultiNav.
…
Then again, if they did that, what would there be to look forward too? Nintendo are not idiots, so I’m sure they made the demo the way they did for a reason. They probably want us to experience the full game in its full glory, and by putting too much into a demo, maybe they think that takes away.
Well its not all dead…. I find the smash 4 demo way better
The smash 4 demo was garbage
Well i enjoyed it more then the ORAS demo
That’s because ur a skrublord
ORAS>SSB Wii U
dont call me that please…. we all have opinions
Well I enjoyed it more than the the SSB demo
I respect u for it…. doesn’t mean i have to agree with u
Yes it does…. And If you don’t ur officially not cool XD
🙁 well i rather not be cool then agree with someone i dont want to…
D00d ur not being cool
Ur not being cool saying im not cool? i never said i hated the demo
but that’s not cool
I don’t think it’s really appropriate to compare a demo of a fighting game to more of an RPG game.
But, we all have opinions, so I won’t judge.
I give up on trying to find the secret mission lmao
I’ll just go back to practicing trying to beat Little Macs in smash.
Little Mac is OP
I need to grab quicker when I battle him.
Grabs counter his counters and charges.
I seem to be able to beat Little mac all the time with zero suit
Little mac isn’t that good.
He’s predictable.
He’s predictable though it’s hard to get a hit with certain characters when he’s repreatedly punching you into the air and charging an up a.
use up air smash. It reks him
I have a combo with my main that a few friends taught me that kicks the character into the air then uses a move that sends them straight down if you land it right.
just edge wall him.
Have to time it right.
Then I see Little Mac’s who edge hog their counters so it stops air recoveries.
Almost every little mac user does that.
That’s why we
jump
lower a bit to fake the counter out
then recover
Some recoveries are just plain shit lmao
The trailer at the end of the demo is one of my favorite parts. Steven’s entrance gets me every time XD as well as the underwater swimming! the whole thing is beautiful :3 ORAS you here yet? ;~;
ORAS = best pokemon games
Get ready for Hoenn! :’)
that cuteness <3 my fav part
https://38.media.tumblr.com/90dc3a0c9d0a166594f7ec07dd2bfcfc/tumblr_ndhwrm3c2b1thvqgmo1_400.gif
Agreed.
Completely adorable 🙂 these games are going to be amazing ^-^
I hope Nintendo never releases a Pokemon demo again. People are so damn ungrateful. It’s okay to have an opinion, but it’s not okay to not be soo damn greedy. What did you honestly expect from a demo, the ability to level your Pokemon to 100 and catch a Hoopa? GTFO.
i never said anything about nothing good in it…. i just didn’t enjoy it
Well I’m glad I didn’t give out my codes here…
What i cant have a opinion?
Not shitty one’s.
How is it shitty that i didnt enjoy something u didnt? Really the demo wasn’t that fun IMO i went in there with no exceptions and my did come out low.
Personally, I expected more features of the MultiNav and Soaring.
I didn’t expect a full-fledged training session and legends.
I went into the demo with no expectations, maybe that’s why I love it so much.
You can’t honestly have expected amazing features like that in a demo.
I guess the pictures on Pokebeach threw me off, when the MultiNav was revealed, and then a ton of pictures were leaked.
I expected that to be the demo.
This is the most true statement, alongside ‘The games aren’t out yet, stop assuming these leaks are all true and this is everything’
…But the Pastebin leaks are true.
There’s no way somebody could leak such accurate information.
And soo much
unless he has all the time in the world
But there could still be stuff not in there that is in the final game.
Like I doubt the Pokedex is just the old Hoenn dex with added Gen 4 evolutions.
I heard that it was gonna be a similar size to XY’s, and why go to a small dex after that game?
Oh yeah, definitely.
There will definitely be more.
It’s too early to draw conclusions from demo data.
Exactly. People just need to chill and realize that, while this is true, it’s not everything. Wait until the games come out in order to complain that a certain feature is not in the game.
the pastebin leaks are basically the ERSB Smash 4 leaks of ORAS
I’m more saying ‘Stop saying this is it, there could be more, we don’t know, wait until the game come out’
There’s a difference between leakers and hackers.
Leakers leak mostly fake information that they think would be cool, while Hackers hack the game and the coding to tell us EXACTLY what is in the game.
These were hackers. Everything’s legit.
I know, my words are all wrong, I meant more in the lines of ‘There could be more, this is from the demo, not the actual game. THere could be more features in the game that is not in the demo code’
OMG SERIOUSLY!
I GOT THE DEMO AND EXPECTED TO BEAT THE WHOLE GAME
NEVER AGAIN/10
Not buying the game
LMAO Menacing!!
This gave me a good laugh.
This is the perfect imitation of a few ppl here tbh.
Good thing I didn’t get the Demo.
Waiting until the day I get then my insides will explode once I hear it
and/or see it
It only gave us a feel for Mossdeep. It didn’t spoil anything really. But it’s cool that you skipped out though, I’ll be skipping corocoro !
Me as well
I am kinda sad to skip CoroCoro I want to see the new megas so I can MM them
But I guess it is for the better
It is for the better.
Last time, beating Tyranitar in the ST modules and figuring out it could mega evolve on my own without seeing any spoilers was sooo much fun
I think I decided to not come back to Pokejungle
UNTIL I BEAT THE GAME 😛
#ScaredYa
I want to see everything new and I don’t want to see the new avis of the new megas
Not 100% decided yet dough
It’s like when someone complains about breeding a shiny with great IVs and the wrong ability.
Like shut up.
Perfect comparison. That annoys me as well.
Great minds think alike.
What I don’t understand is why people are complaining about it in the first place. There’s a reason this is a DEMO and not the real games. It’s going to be limited regardless of what it’s a demo of, and besides, ORAS comes out in a month anyway. Some people just can’t enjoy the sneak peak we got of AWESOME games. Their loss.
I really cant see why people cant accept that some people didn’t like the demo…..
But you guys can praise Super Trash Bros as the second coming of jesus.. I’m weak.
Excuse me bish?
ur basically doing that with the ORAS demo……
I’m basically telling you your opinion is invalid.
Goodbye & goodnight
I dont see why is should be…. ur being really bias right now heavy
If you didn’t like the demo, that’s fine with me. What I don’t get is people complaining about something that wasn’t gonna have a ton of detail to it to begin with. I’m not singling you or anybody else out, just an observation.
What type of Tea did you have while observing?
I agree with u…. im not going to go into detail about a demo thats limited features of the main game just to give a taste of whats to come but that taste was just boring
I don’t think people understand what a demo is XD
Well, you probably could level your pokemon to level 100, only to have wasted hours of your time.
But yeah really.
This New Color almost matches my avi
while i was playing pokemon showdown i notice u can use mega evolution and primal evolution in the same team. is that real or just a glitch?
I think it is real (real scary)
But you can actually do that
scary ?
It’s OP.
does anybody have a spare european demo code for my friend? he’s dying, i already have mine but mine’s the US one.. any spare european oras demo codes?
they might have some in the forums
which forums? could u give me the link pls that would be great thanks 🙂
http://mountmoon.net/
thanks is it in the bulletin board
IGN has them
link? thanks 🙂
I am pretty much addicted to Scooby doo
Just thought Of that Gif of Velma saying “you stop that.”
I literally know exactly all the words in that scene and what happens
I like the millions of gifs when Velma drops her glasses at the dumbest times.
The appropriate ones at least.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8pj9EwjNjw
best
Opening
Evar
You stop that
Jk Hoenn on
I got SOOO much goosebumps from this
i prefer japanese version
Wait which voice should i listen too?
ehh it don’t matter they’re all practically deranged….
I think the Hoenn seasons were the high point for the anime’s intros. DP was weird bc they went too different with them and then BW was just……..well……..u know……..
I think Hoenn series was just the High point for anime in general
Idk I really liked the Sinnoh series. It had a good amount of ash being what he should b…..competent…….lol
Sinnoh’s anime was K but it had a lot of filter, and I would forgive it if it was good filter, but most of it was cringe worthy.
Only its ending was notable.
My fellow Junglers. These demos are just teasers for the real games. Let them not define the full versions. They only exist to give you a sneak peak of what ORAS will be like. However, it doesn’t mean it’ll be exactly like that. It’ll most likely be better.For demos, yes, they may be boring after the first 5 trials or so, but at least they can be played an infinite number of times, and they have replay value. Sure, it may not be the best, but for what we got, I think it’s worth it. I’m not going to lie. There are some things I don’t like about ORAS so far, but those are just nitpicks. Overall, I think I’ll enjoy them greatly, and I hope you do too. :’)
i just found it boring and i get hate for it 🙁
High expectations maybe.
I did no such thing
so i was researching the Mario Kart 8 DLC for a release date…sadly nothing but i took a which racer am i quiz…
“You’re most like Bowser and his zany troop of Koopalings. You’re a fierce competitor and tough as nails, but you have a bit of a bratty side. Take what’s rightfully yours, 1st place in the race!”