PJT’14 Report- HeavyMetalFairy

Hello thots. I am the (in)famous HeavyMetalFairy – mainly known for my crazy theories and gimmicky strategies. Everyone pretty much knows my Smeargle for being a nightmare – mainly because 90% of the time my opponents allow me to set up Geomancy. But when the official first ever PJN tourney was announced, I knew Junglian’s would expect me to run my Geo-Smeargle set, so I figured… why not change its move pool up a bit – and run a full on Baton Pass team. Something I always wanted to do. I’ve been battling competitively since Gen 4, running Baton Pass Ninjask to help set up good physical sweepers that needed the speed – and as time passed with new moves & niche’s I discovered my buddy Smeargle.

 

So for the PJN tourney I studied upon a good baton pass chain, and figured out one that I could use. A lot of people may think you have no skill for running a full baton pass(BP) team, and may think it’s cheap, but teams are subjective so to each their own. Baton Passing allows me to max out a Pokémon’s potential and exploit the limits of a Pokemon. I’ve always been drawn to that notion. I love chain-sweeping. Unfortunately, in the PJN, I didn’t get a chance to show my full potential because I broke my game (wore down the gold contacts of it) which forced me to forfeit from the tourney since my game didn’t make it back in time. Now… let’s check out the team I used:

 

scolipede sylveon vaporeon espeon smeargle mr._mime

Team Overview

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545Scolipede

 

scolipede

 

Ability: Speed Boost (HA)

Held Item: Mental Herb

Nature: Timid

IVS: 31/0/31/31/31/31

Moveset:

-Iron Defense

-Protect

-Substitute

-Baton Pass

 

 

Ninjask who? Scolipede, the monster, gets Ninjask’s job done much better now that it has Speed Boost (I don’t know what 5th gen was thinking giving it Quick Feet). Much better bulk, and can absorb toxic spikes if it has too. I usually lead off with Scolipede, specially when I’m expecting my opponent to lead off with Ferrothorn. There is nothing Ferro can do. Set up a substitute while it goes for the leech seed, then proceed to trying to get a +6 defense with 3 uses of Iron Defense. Someone wants to “Taunt” you? Laugh at them as Mental Herb washes the effect of Taunt away. It’s needed for all the Prankster users.

 

EV Spread: 240 HP / 80 Def / 188 Speed

 

1 protect and you will outspeed Max Jolly Garchomp.

700 Sylveon

 

sylveon

 

Ability: Pixelate (HA)

Held Item: Leftovers

Nature: Calm

IVS: 31/0/31/31/31/31

Moveset:

-Calm Mind

-Stored Power

-Hyper Voice

-Baton Pass

 

The two sweepers of my team are Sylveon and Espeon. If I see a lot of Dark types or dragon types on the opponent’s team then I’m forced to try to sweep with Sylveon. You’re ruined if Shedinja is on the opponent’s team though. Apart from that, Sylveon is immensely powerful. Specially with defense & speed boosts from scolipede to make Stored Power stronger.

 

 

EV Spread: 216 HP / 208 Def / 84 Speed

 

At a +2 speed you will outspeed anything slower than a base 112. You don’t want to catch these Hyper Voices though. The defensive investments whilst keeping a Calm nature allows it to take hits from both physical & special dishers.

134Vaporeon

 

vaporeon

 

Ability: Water Absorb

Held Item: Leftovers/WacanBerry/RedCard

Nature: Bold

IVS: 31/0/31/31/31/31

Moveset:

-Acid Armor

-Roar

-Substitute

-Baton Pass

 

 

Arguably Vaporeon & Scolipede are the best defense boosters in the current meta. Specially Vaporeon because it doesn’t have a 4x weakness to anything, and will eat a Gyro Ball from a Ferrothorn if you’re baton passing from Scolipede into Vaporeon. If your enemy tries to set up on you – with, per-say, Dragon Dance, Roar them away and scout them in to a Pokémon that will allow you to further set up.

 

EV Spread: 192 HP / 252 Def / 64 Speed

 

Just a monstrously bulky Pokémon. Can take on pretty much any physical hits from any Pokémon – specially couped with Defense boosts. More defense to pass = higher base power for Stored Power.

196Espeon

 

espeon

 

Ability: Magic Bounce (HA)

Held Item: Leftovers/RedCard

Nature: Calm

IVS: 31/0/31/31/31/31

Moveset:

-Calm Mind

-Stored Power

-Substitute/Shadow Ball

-Baton Pass

 

Espeon, one my sweepers, is a Pokémon I toyed with (EV-wise) on this team. It’s fragile physically, and at the time Aegislash & Talonflame were running wild (I see them less and less used now), so I believe for the PJN tourney I might have maxed out its defense but I’m not too sure. I would sometimes run a unique set with max HP and Defense investment, but I think for this tourney I might have run something different (check EV spread below). Esp is pretty much the poke that I try to send all the baton pass boosts over into. STAB Stored Power is amazing, and I replaced Substitute over time with Shadow Ball so I can have a way of hitting Shedinja & Aegislash. Red Card is too catch an opponent off guard and force switch them out while you set up another Calm Mind. And if I manage to set up Ingrain for recovery with Smeargle, I no longer need to fear Whirlwind or Roar from Skarmory & friends so then I’ll use Sylveon as my sweeper. If you want to run a full baton pass team, try testing these two spreads depending on what you fear the most:

 

EV Spread: 200 HP / 252 Def / 56 Sp Def

 

or

 

EV Spread: 200 HP / 56 Def / 252 Sp Def (I use this one more)

235Smeargle

 

smeargle

 

Ability: Own Tempo

Held Item: Focus Sash

Nature: Timid

IVS: 31/0/31/31/31/31

Moveset:

-Ingrain

-Quiver Dance

-Spore

-Baton Pass

 

Probably one of my top 5 favorite Pokémon of all time. Not only can it learn any move in the game, but it’s a fricken dog that paints with its tail. Can we get any more original than that?  My more infamously known Smeargle runs Geomancy with a Power Herb, but this Smeargle I cherish as well – because it’s PERFECT for a full baton pass team. Ingrain is to make sure you can’t get roared or whirlwinded out (breaking your chain) and also for recovery. Spore your foe to sleep, set up a Quiver Dance and get the ball rolling.

 

 

EV Spread: 88 HP / 168 Def / 252 Speed

122122Mr. Mime122122

 

mr._mime

 

Ability: Soundproof

Held Item: Leftovers/Sitrus Berry

Nature: Calm

IVS: 31/0/31/31/31/31

Moveset:

-Calm Mind

-Encore

-Substitute

-Baton Pass

 

Perfect Pokemon for blocking sound moves (boom burst, roar, perish song, you name it). In the PJN tourney the first match I had was up against RioSpeedWagon, I lost miserably because I mispredicted his Mega Gengar using Perish Song (even forgot it could learn that) and trapped me with Shadow Tag ruining my chain. You have to be careful with your predictions when baton passing. 1 wrong move and you’re wrecked. I later replaced Mr. Mime with Zapdos (due to Talonflame & Pinsir) which I find works MUCH MUCH better. But I couldn’t swap out my Mime for Zapdos or else I would’ve been disqualified (we needed to keep same 6 through the whole tourney) – wish I had discovered Zapdos sooner. Mime still gets the job done, but it’s better to have another sweeper with my Sylveon & Espeon. Mime is great at locking poke’s in with Encore.

 

EV Spread: 252 HP / 240 Sp Def / 16 Speed

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Post-Tourney

 

I thought I would’ve done really well in the tourney if it wasn’t for my game having to under-go repair (which didn’t even happen at all, Nintendo sent me a completely new game). And I can’t wait until I re-build the same team again (minus mr. mime) … Just been busy with work and MM’ing and life in general. But once I get my team rolling again the community is in for some rage quits XD (mwahaha)…

 

Check out two battle video codes that I managed to save from the tourney to get a feel for how OP this team is:

 

Vs. Edgardo: G2ZG-WWWW-WWW8-NQZJ

Vs. Nathan: 3CGW-WWWW-WWW8-NR3N

 

The following video is not from the tourny, but is a demonstration of how great this team sweeps. 6-0 FTW! I’m surprised he didn’t rage quit:

 

Vs. Sergio: PYSG-WWWW-WWW9-ZTB5

 

 

Congrats to the winner of the tourney & everyone that participated. I had fun honestly. I thank you for reading this analysis of my PJN team and I hope you can face my next BP team in the future:

 

scolipede sylveon vaporeon espeon smeargle zapdos

 

 

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1,842 thoughts on “PJT’14 Report- HeavyMetalFairy”

  1. Great article Heavy. I really like the team. It’s unique with less commonly used Pokemon and the evs are thought out well.

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  2. While on the Topic of Heavy
    BATTTLLLLLELEELELELELEL
    FRROOOOOONBNNNNTITITIEIEIEIEIRIRIRIRIEIRIR
    COCOCOOOONNNNNFIRIRIRIRIRIMMMMEEEEDDDD!

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  3. To those of you who have gotten a code for the demo: Was it only in the email or did you get a message about it in the Pokemon Trainer Club?

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  4. Hey NL? Can I write a competitive article about competitive Milotic? I have proof that it works, twice actually against Earthen, he can testify. I have the battle codes and everything.

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  5. To those of you who signed up for Pokemon.com account and have not received a demo code:
    Apparently the newsletters are being sent out in waves. Don’t panic if you haven’t gotten yours yet.

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  6. I went through the STRM_BGM_VS themes & found some interesting ones; here are my comments :3 Please read! Includes info on Legendaries!

    0. If anyone knows what STRM means, please say so 😛 I think it’s the theme that plays when something is shown on screen (like a picture, text on screen when encountering a pokemon, etc.) But i really don’t know…
    1. Obviously for Steven, idk what SG means
    2. For Musketeer Trio & Forces of Nature trio. Cobalion, Virizion, Terrakion, Thundurus, Tornadus, & Landorus confirmed
    3. For Deoxys, Deoxys confirmed 😀 (I always considered it an event legendary)
    4. Theme for Giratina, Giratina confirmed.
    5. Theme for Dialga/Palkia, Dialga & Palkia confirmed.
    6. For Gym leaders, again idk what SG means.
    7. Again for Gym leaders, i think 2 might mean rebattle/rematch. If not SG means that.
    8. Theme for Heatran/Regigigas. Heatran & Regigigas confirmed, probably have same theme again :C (although distinct this time from #11)
    9. No idea what HIGANA is, tried looking it up.
    10. I guess this is for Ho-oh, Ho-oh confirmed.
    11. General Legendary Battle Music.
    12. General Legendary Battle Music 2 SG?
    13. General Legendary Battle Music SG?
    14. Lugia confirmed, will again have different theme than Ho-oh.
    15. Norapoke, from what i’ve found, is the wild battle encounter. Again idk what SG is.
    16. Rival theme, again idk what SG is.
    17. Any thoughts? Maybe secret base?
    18. SHITENNO means 4 heavenly kings/Elite 4. Again idk what SG is.
    19. No idea.
    20. No idea.
    21. Legendary beast theme. Suicune, Entei, Raikou confirmed.
    22. Again idk what SG is.
    23. Legendary Pixie theme. Mespirit, Uxie, & Azelf confirmed.
    24. Legendary Tao theme. Reshiram, Zekrom, & Kyurem confirmed.

    Total legendaries: 32 (Cresellia was confirmed by other means)
    Total Legendaries in Gen 6 (including Hoopa, Diancie, & Volcanion): 49/54
    Missing: Mew, Manaphy, Arceus, Meloetta, & Genesect. So all the event legendaries, as expected 😛

    Where do you all think these 49 legendaries are going to be? They can’t fit all of them into Mirage spots right? 🙂

    1.STRM_BGM_VS_CHAMP_SG
    2.STRM_BGM_VS_COBALION
    3.STRM_BGM_VS_DEOXYS
    4.STRM_BGM_VS_DIALGA
    5.STRM_BGM_VS_GIRATINA
    6.STRM_BGM_VS_GYMLEADER_SG
    7.STRM_BGM_VS_GYMLEADER2
    8.STRM_BGM_VS_HEATRAN
    9.STRM_BGM_VS_HIGANA
    10.STRM_BGM_VS_HOUOU
    11.STRM_BGM_VS_LEGEND
    12.STRM_BGM_VS_LEGEND_02_SG
    13.STRM_BGM_VS_LEGEND_SG
    14.STRM_BGM_VS_LUGIA
    15.STRM_BGM_VS_NORAPOKE_SG
    16.STRM_BGM_VS_RIVAL_SG
    17.STRM_BGM_VS_SECRET_01
    18.STRM_BGM_VS_SHITENNO_SG
    19.STRM_BGM_VS_SPECIAL_01
    20.STRM_BGM_VS_SPECIAL_02
    21.STRM_BGM_VS_SUIKUN
    22.STRM_BGM_VS_TRAINER_SG
    23.STRM_BGM_VS_UXIE
    24.STRM_BGM_VS_ZEKROM

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  7. In a world where broken breaks broken I had ways to destroy this team. Lol. I expected as much from heavy.

    I hated facing these teams on showdown (before BatonPass was limited), but all it really take is one good turn and the team is done.

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  8. So this swimmer just said

    “I get it. I accept your feelings, both you. So I guess this is where we’ll say good-bye. I’ll swim back to Kalos on my own.”

    Is Kalos that close to Hoenn? 😮

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  9. When I scroll down and see people being hostile towards each other about a single potential feature of ORAS…..I get a little sad 🙁 *sigh*

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  10. To the ones who don’t have the demo:

    I wasted a long time waiting for the demo, and now I wish I had that time back.
    The only perks of the demo were the music, the new Mossdeep City, and the Glalie.
    Literally the most boring thing ever after the first play.
    When you get the demo, trust me, you’ll feel the same way I do.

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  11. I just wish they would have told us how it was going to b sent out……They basically lead everyone on thinking it would b an instantaneous release of the demo and then started releasing it in batches where we have no idea when it’ll come…..It’s less about not having played the demo and more about the fact that Nintendo treats demos like some miraculous thing and makes it really hard to play. They really should have just put it on the shop from the start.

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  12. @heavymetallamb:disqus I just got my code in my inbox literally a minute ago. I feel bad but I hope I can make up for it by dmming you the code for another giveaway!

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  13. The only fault I see with your team is the Infiltrator weakness it has. My team runs that ability as a main. So I guess it would be quite the interesting match to have ;D

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  14. To those of you with the demo: There is like 10 times where you get something new, right? Well, can you play it at all after that, or is that the limit?

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  15. I’m gonna ask this again b/c it seems a lot more people have the demo:
    For those of you who have the demo code, did you only get it in an email or did you get it in a trainer club message as well. If you don’t know, can you check? :3

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  16. I’m starting to think that I haven’t gotten my code because something wants me to focus on my tests tomorrow instead….

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  17. Oooooooooooooooothis gorgeous! The sencery is amazing! And the music is spectacular! even better with headphones!

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  18. I refuse to press A while I’m listening to the new team aqua theme! First minute of the demo beats everything xy had to offer music and graphics wise. O.O

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  19. Well, i’m not asking for a code (waiting on it though), but does anyone happen to have an extra immunity gligar? or could someone breed me one? not asking for anything special but a few perfect IVs wouldn’t hurt.

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  20. The remixis! >3 too good! and one nice touch is how if have nothing in a section in your bag, it will say “nothing”

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  21. I have finalized my decision of the N3DS. If we get the ORAS Edition, I’ll be fine with it since I hear the slightly larger screen is well balanced, if we don’t get it, I’ll get an XL.

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  22. The demo isn’t that big but it’s taking forever to download.. Goddamn. The N3DS really should be a decent upgrade to this .-.

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  23. Hey, I just opened my email and where the code is supposed to be it’s just a grey box with the word “coupon”..that happening to anyone else?

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    • Okay, on my original 3DS, SSB loads way faster than it does on the XL there.
      I do like the N3DS and will probably get one. I’m surprised at how well I’ve kept my 3DS, all the buttons work and the circle pad is intact. Do like how they moved the Start/Select buttons and reinforced the Home button (always fear I’m gonna press them too hard and it’s gonna break)

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  24. If they ran out of code, they could have sent us an email apologizing and explain that they, in fact, ran out of code; instead of sending people email saying here’s the code: nothing.

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    • The idea of them running out of codes is atrocious. It’s a file…..They can always random generate more codes, it’s no excuse at all……….I’m not mad that I can’t play yet I mad that they promised this and didn’t deliver for everyone…….

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  25. Im actually so sick i never got a code, now i know i might recieve one at a later time, as they are going in waves, but I honestly thought id have had one by now. Its a shame really :'(

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  26. Whoa I got an email for my Gmail just now… right now it’s blank and won’t load.
    If it does load and the “coupon” thing appear again, things will break and it won’t be my fault.

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  27. If the download is still not showing the code. Try clicking the view online in the corner my code appeared when I did that! I don’t know if you already tried it; yet it’s worth a shot! (Refresh.)

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  28. Games like these make you glad to be an Australian (or European but only in the case of the demo because Europe gets the main game a week after everyone else)

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  29. Я так зол сейчас . Я хочу убить Gmail для не посылает свой ​​код еще .

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  30. This is one of the only times ill say im a little disappointed in GF. There really was not a valid reason to limit the demo codes to certain people and regions. Everyone has the right to play the demo.

    It was all just a promotions boost and to generate hype. But all they did was get peoples hopes up and then annoy others by not even making the code redeemable in their country.

    I had about 5 people today asking me for codes in work, in which I one had to say, sorry its not a retail code and 2 you cant even get the code in Ireland without doing a load online signing up for Pokemon.com etc.

    Im not one for a rant but, well they disappointed alot of people today andjust limited the codes for little reason. :/

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  31. You know what’s more frustrating than receiving an E-mail without the code? Is being one of the first people to get it and later realizing you’ll never be able to use it.

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  32. The response I got from my Nintendo Rep. At least he was really nice about telling me to basically f*ck off 😛

    Dear Simon,

    Thank you for your email.

    Nintendo has no official announcement about your query at this time.

    We therefore apologise as we are unable to help you further, however you can keep updated for any further announcements or updates directly from us by signing up to our newsletter at http://www.nintendo.co.uk or by subscribing to the Official Nintendo Magazine, or alternatively by turning on your ‘Home Notifications’ on the Nintendo 3DS. Additionally you can find further information and updates using the Nintendo Wii U and Miiverse application.

    We hope this information helps you out, and we wish you a happy gaming experience. If you have any further questions or queries, please do not hesitate to contact us.

    Kind regards,

    Lester Paul

    Your Nintendo UK Team

    0345 60 50 247

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  33. Not sure if i should be sad that i haven’t gotten the code email yet or happy that i haven’t gotten an email w/o the code…

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  34. Seeing the sprite and 3D model TC posted that really brings forth fond memories, Steven was such a pain in the butt to defeat and it was the toughest battle for me out of every game not even Red could compare to him imo.His battle stuck with me more so then others because I remember all of the times spent grinding for levels and re battling as he knocked my Pokémon out 1 by 1. This was the first game out of the series that really motivated me into trying harder to get past all of those obstacles and putting so much effort into my Pokemon. He is one character truly deserving of the word champion and I couldn’t be happier to see him coming back with a 3D model and how they got his movements down. So I’m positive this next battle with him will bring back all of those good memories as well as new ones ^-^

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  35. GUYS!
    I just checked my email again to see the code for the TCG sleeves, and it disappeared along with the demo code! I’m lucky I entered it earlier!
    This means that everyone who received the email without the code had the code earlier, but for some reason it disappeared.

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  36. Just played the first four parts of the demo. These game will be beautiful! Everything just seems amazing!
    The evolution screen is breath taking
    I love how walking around doesnt seem like a grid with diagnal movement
    Everything!
    I love the wild encounters
    3D battles dont lag
    And (have not tested this fully) I think you can skip regular trainers by sneaking, not sure though.

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  37. Ugghhh. I’ve got two emails (one code for me, one for my brother) and neither of them actually have the demo codes one them. This is infuriating. Has anyone emailed PoA?

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  38. It has come to our attention that some users have not yet received their copy of the newsletter, and that some who have are reporting that the code for the Alpha Ruby/Omega Sapphire Demo is not appearing properly in the message.

    Because of the large volume of newsletters sent, there could be some delays as they make their wayhrough the various internet providers and networks, leading to some users receiving their newsletters before other users.

    We’re working closely with our service partner to resolve tWe’re working closely with our service partner to resolve the issue of non-displaying codes and hope to see the issue resolved shortly. This should not require us to re-send the message as once the error is corrected users will then see the code appear in their original newsletter email.

    We will update this article as we receive information, and we encourage you to click the subscribe link so that you are notified as we update this issue.

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  39. @Pokemon tweeted this: “Our team is investigating the Pokémon Omega Ruby and Pokémon Alpha Sapphire special demo code issues. Stay tuned: bit.ly/1rbmOb4 “

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  40. Interesting. I checked the email with the code I sent heavy, and there are blank spaces where codes should be. The reason I checked is to see whether or not the email I got disappeared.

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  41. * i finally got the code but i got a question mark where the code should be

    my luck keeps getting worse and worse today I really wanna cry right now

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  42. I hope the issue with the codes get resolved soon. :3 I’m glad they are looking into it.
    PS No, I still haven’t got the email. Always tomorrow. Or the next day. I can be patient, despite my posts earlier about me being impatient.

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  43. The funny thing is that I didn’t even get my code through the newsletter.
    I got it from a website.
    You had to like and follow the page, and then they gave me a code.
    When I put it in, the demo started downloading.
    😀

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  44. Sorry for lading out today, I had a rough day at chool where bad luck struck constantly and at home it escalated and then this code shit was the cherry at top

    The things I did was wrong and i lashed out in the wrong way so I apologize. Sometimes we have those days :/

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  45. Congrats to all that got them! 😀 I’m so glad you guys finally got them :3
    Still waiting for mine….wish me luck!

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  46. @Pokemon just tweeted this: “Had trouble viewing the Pokémon Omega Ruby and Pokémon Alpha Sapphire special demo codes? Try this: bit.ly/1rbmOb4 “

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  47. I’m hoping ORAS will rekindle my passion for Pokemon. XY was so boring I don’t even feel like sitting through the game anymore. I know ORAS won’t be boring, because the demo really does have more to do than XY, but it’s still boring. We’ll see November 21. :/

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  48. hi demo’s people ;P , i know the most people her r american , so did any body know if James turner has any Online account for contact with the fan ??

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  49. OMG I GOT MY EMAIL HOLY YES HOLY YES *holds back squeals due to my roommate sleeping*
    …But I need a 3DS connection to download it D: And sadly, my connection won’t work for 3DS’ D:
    At least I got it, it’s all that matters now.

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  50. The one complain I have with the OR/AS demo so far are the random backgrounds.
    For example, the very first battle with the Team Magma Grunts is simply a recycled Kiloude City background. But the music makes up for it.
    I will be posting a review (on my website) on the demo as soon as I play enough of it, since I’ve only played it for less than 5 minutes. Be expecting that soon.

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  51. Won my first 2s4u battle against Rocket! Oh boy, was it close. 2-1 victory. Too bad Rocket got a bad case of hax in all 3 battle D:

    Onto the topic: The demo is pretty sweet! It’s fairly short though as expected. I FREAKING love the Grunt music! It may beat Team Flare’s as best battle theme. Now I just need ORAS in my hands for real

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  52. OMG I HAVE MY DEMO YES YES YES YES YES
    I DON’T CARE HOW BORING IT IS, I CAN EXPERIENCE IT FOR MYSELF AND ITS MUSIC
    THANK YOU CHICO FOR SHOWING ME THE WAYS OF THE VIRTUAL ROUTER.
    *ahem* I must go play now, bai.

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  53. Lol. I never gave my opinion on the Gameboy Pokemon TCG Eshop announcement.

    “Well…that’s cool I guess.”

    That’s my opinion.

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  54. OH MY GOSH!!!
    “It’s a Critical Hit” IS IN YELLOW LETTERS!!!
    THAT’S INSANE!!!
    I LOVE IT!!!
    WITH THE DEMO ALONE, I ALREADY AWARD ORAS A 9.5/10!!!

    I’m still not a fan of the menu. Sorry. It’s too blocky for me. :

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  55. Lol they kinda talked about Duck Hint in today’s pic of the day….

    Looks like we know who’s going to be be revealed tomorrow.

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  56. v Uhh, we know you stop getting stuff after 10 playthroughs, and we know about the keckleon. The demo has been out for 1.5 weeks, and that stuff is basic knowledge by now. But if you find any obscure or rare thing that has happened that you believe hasnt been addressed yet online, we might like to hear that.

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    • It’s all right. Nothing spectacular. There’s a mini-storyline, after that, replays will let you test 1 feature of ORAS at a time. At the same time, various different NPCs show up at Mossdeep. Three playthroughs is probably the most optimal for item hunters.

      IMO it’s better to spend time playing X&Y to amass BP and items from the Maison, than playing on after three plays of the demo. Unless you’re curious about the NPCs that show up in Mossdeep.

      So far I’ve seen Flannery, Gabby and Ty, and Team Magma grunts.

      Finally, if you don’t have the demo, you can just trade Glalitite and Steelixite from other people. That’s probably the only most important item to get from the demo.

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  57. Virtual router freezes easily but it works…. However my game won’t connect to the school Internet anymore. I’m scared they blocked it….

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  58. Oh My God, I’m so hyped right now. I just won a dutch demo code. Finally some demo action for me. PS. if there still someone in the us who doesn’t have a code i still have a US demo code O_O

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  59. Does anyone have a spare code ? I just didn’t get one 🙁 If anyone can help me please let me know and I’ll send u my email. 🙁

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  60. You know how we can change the backround battle theme in XY?
    Do you think we’ll be able to do it again in ORAS?
    Do you think we’ll also be able to change the design?

    I really don’t like ORAS’s blocky texture. It just feels weird and well…that’s all I’ll say. I’m doing my best to not think about it, but…WHY DID THEY ADD THAT SILLY MINECRAFT ARROW?!?! It’s really distracting.

    Still like ORAS though. So far, that’s one of my only complaints.

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  61. I’m going to get going.
    BLOCKS.
    That’s always going to be on my mind now.
    Thanks ORAS.
    Not that blocks are a bad thing.
    It’s just that in some things, they’re not used right.
    ORAS is one of those things.
    I’m not going to let the battle menu bring me down, because ORAS really are fantastic! Obviously, in my eyes, not perfect, but fantastic.

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  62. I was so used to the office mac’s crummy screen everything on my Laptop seems super bright and lightly colored
    not bold or thick…..
    also the stupid power cord they gave me doesn’t even work!
    thank god i have the original

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  63. I got my code… But I accidentally deleted it from my email… now I will never get my Code WHY! WHY! I was looking so forward to it…

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    • If anyone has a code that they can spare, you would help me out a lot! I plan on recording it on my channel and would be more then happy to give you a shoutout or something of the matter

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    • If i get an email for mine (i signed up for it but i haven’t gotten it yet, so idk if i’m even getting another one), i’ll give it to you :3
      Just keep checking back every now and again, i’m usually on from 3:00-8:30 weekdays & all day on weekends c:

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  64. Hate to be negative but I just got done talking with PLDH.net. Gym Leader Rematches VERY unlikely. Data in Demo likely final. Why leave out Gym Leader Rematches but include the Elite Four and Wally with Rematches. It should of been in there. Level 5 Zigzagoon placeholders likely just to show unfinished Trainer data. All Trainers and matches in Data. Just not all teams have been fully programmed.

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    • Look on the bright side, Elite four has EPIC REMATCHES and the battle frontier is confirmed to return!, as well as some potential for some Primals and new MEgas. don’t be negative, always look to the future

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    • I doubt the Pokedex would just be the old Hoenn dex plus Gen 4 evolutions of old Pokemon in the old Hoenn dex.
      I mean, why go from a whole lot of available Pokemon in XY to this?
      Plus, didn’t GF say it would have a lot of Pokemon choices like XY?
      I’m saying that the demo dumps give us an idea of what to expect but there is still things that are left out for the final game.

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      • I’m taking whatever’s been leaked as consideration of what might or might not be in the game and what to expect. I’m not saying anything is confirmed or not confirmed until the official games are out and I see it for myself.
        There are chances for everything.

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  65. I hope Gym Leader Rematches are in the game. If not, I will be VERY pissed off! Especially because the programmers went to all the trouble to give Wally and the Elite Four upgraded teams. Sadly, I think this is all the data. Game Freak are lazy asses that forgot to take out all the data because they think their fans are too incapable to find it. Think again! They also just forgot to finish some of the trainers at the time of this build and left them with Level 5 Zigzagoons. So yes, this is an early build of the game. But it is very well into development. Sorry but Gym Leader Rematches deconfirmed.

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  66. I’m just an angry sailor at the moment. PLDH.net basically believes the demo data is the final game’s data or very close to it and that Gym Leader rematches are very unlikely. He’s the one that made me very angry and upset today. I took his story to heart and now seeing all of you again, I realize: It’s just a damn demo.

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  67. Can I say something else?
    The Pokedex didn’t have non-Hoenn Pokemon that get Megas in ORAS, like Lopunny and Audno.
    That means it ain’t final.
    So therefore, it means any information isn’t final yet and is just info on what to expect.
    Wait until the actual game to effing complain about what is or isn’t in the game.
    Peace.

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  68. I think it’s best if I head out now. Got myself and everyone else worked up just because of something PLDH.net believes: “Gym Leaders Rematches unlikely”. I trust him & took his opinion as fact but he doesn’t have answers. No one does.

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  69. As much As I love the Hoenn Battle frontier I hope they update date the rules to recent rules of Battle Maison/Sinnoh Frontier

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  70. I think Mauville may have had a bigger remodel than we thought. I found a trainer in the demo who says “I am one of the four cardinal sisters. We lead the way for any tourists who get lost in Mauville, Hoenn’s greatest city…” (The rest is irrelevant). If you guys want I’ll post some more interesting things I find in the demo.

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  71. “The Mauville Ramen Bowl… I’m sure it will become the star of the Mauville Food Court!” So is Mauville a mall/contains a mall?

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  72. I really want to find some of these NPCs people are finding, like the Cardinal sister. I also want to get this secret mission!!! SO much stuff in this demo! I can’t wait for the games release!!!!!!

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    • The cardinal sister was actually on one of the islands with the side missions. She didn’t have to be battled; she was only standing there.

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      • She’ll probably be on Island 5 when I finally reach it. I know it’s random, which NPCs you get but I really want to meet them all!!

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  73. I found more confirmation of Sea Mauville if you guys are interested. A scientist says “I was sent to survey Sea Mauville at the request of Captain Stern. And I searched and searched but somehow ended up on this island! But the Scanner… I’ve got to find that Scanner…” So presumably Sea Mauville is not attached to Mauville City(Mall?) at all and possibly a seperate island or other place altogether.

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  74. I don’t know if i made a really smart choice or a really stupid one. I just bought a full set of the Bionicle Inika Toa and now i dont have money for smash u XD Xd

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  75. MenacingCascoon is ready to Finish his MM 30
    Will Houndour take as long as last time?
    Find out on the Next Pokejungle Z!

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  76. Yesterday the demo took me about 2 hours to compete ten times.
    While I was very impressed with the character models and Hoenn’s 3D revamp, I was slightly disappointed at the recycled backgrounds from XY at times, and some noticeable in-battle lag even when the 3D was off. This was most frequent when I had a Mega Evolution in battle.

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  77. So i found some stuff about the demo. The exp you gain resets every time as well as any level(s) gained. max level is 40. And after your first playthrough the starter you chosen says “Met at level. 36” instead of level 35 like it should.

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  78. Personally, I don’t find anything wrong with Brendan’s run in OR/AS. I’m actually happy that the rollerskates don’t return.

    However, the demo did not live up to the hype. I was expecting more intense battles, more experience grinding, a trial of the MultiNav…I guess my expectations were too high. The demo did get annoying after the 5th time, but I have completed it fully.

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  79. I give up on trying to find the secret mission lmao
    I’ll just go back to practicing trying to beat Little Macs in smash.

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  80. The trailer at the end of the demo is one of my favorite parts. Steven’s entrance gets me every time XD as well as the underwater swimming! the whole thing is beautiful :3 ORAS you here yet? ;~;

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  81. I hope Nintendo never releases a Pokemon demo again. People are so damn ungrateful. It’s okay to have an opinion, but it’s not okay to not be soo damn greedy. What did you honestly expect from a demo, the ability to level your Pokemon to 100 and catch a Hoopa? GTFO.

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  82. while i was playing pokemon showdown i notice u can use mega evolution and primal evolution in the same team. is that real or just a glitch?

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  83. does anybody have a spare european demo code for my friend? he’s dying, i already have mine but mine’s the US one.. any spare european oras demo codes?

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    • Just thought Of that Gif of Velma saying “you stop that.”
      I literally know exactly all the words in that scene and what happens

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  84. My fellow Junglers. These demos are just teasers for the real games. Let them not define the full versions. They only exist to give you a sneak peak of what ORAS will be like. However, it doesn’t mean it’ll be exactly like that. It’ll most likely be better.For demos, yes, they may be boring after the first 5 trials or so, but at least they can be played an infinite number of times, and they have replay value. Sure, it may not be the best, but for what we got, I think it’s worth it. I’m not going to lie. There are some things I don’t like about ORAS so far, but those are just nitpicks. Overall, I think I’ll enjoy them greatly, and I hope you do too. :’)

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  85. so i was researching the Mario Kart 8 DLC for a release date…sadly nothing but i took a which racer am i quiz…
    “You’re most like Bowser and his zany troop of Koopalings. You’re a fierce competitor and tough as nails, but you have a bit of a bratty side. Take what’s rightfully yours, 1st place in the race!”

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    • so do it
      i’ve been trying to hatch the Perfect Aron…..which i kinda stopped doing since i put Wow on the Office Mac…..

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    • I have so many tricks up my sleeve, it’s not even funny. I want to continue the completion of the dex and competitive breeding, but alas, college first.

      My ideal goal is to create unique UU, RU, and NU teams for Singles, Doubles, and Triples. I was currently working on a mixed-tier (RU, UU, and BL) Triple Battle team, and it was going good in the Battle Maison, but I never applied it to an actual battle, so the strategy is still under construction until further notice.

      TL; DR, I want to competitively breed again and I have various strategies planned, namely a Triple Battle team.

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  86. ehhhh i’m gonna turn in early
    but a quick question
    Which Pokemon are you most eager to catch on your new journey?
    Mine would have to be a real Aron from Granite Cave

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  87. Seeing as Smash Bros. is a universal franchise, I’d like to see some things not directly relating to Smash Bros. in tomorrow’s Direct. I know the chances are low, but I always have high hopes. I need more Splatoon information right now! ;_;

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  88. So, if anybody wants to collaborate with me on an OR/AS demo review…you don’t have to be working for my website.
    Maximum of 3 people (myself included).

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  89. Trying to get a U.S. demo code for my friend, I recieved mine but my friend still has yet to receive hers she may have accidentally not Opt’d in. I’ve read some of you have extra codes, could any of you email me a code and use your disqus name so I can let others now I recieved one from you and they can given there’s to others.
    My E-mail is [email protected]! Please help me help my friend 🙂

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    • Or if that email doesn’t work for some reason another you can reach me at is: [email protected]

      The reason I ask to be emailed the code is I wanna make sure to securely get it instead of having it posted while I’m away and having another person snag it lol

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  90. I am about to cry!! I want the demo so badly but I can’t get it now because I miss typed ONE LETTER in my email >…> FML!! I was going to make a video on my youtube!

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    • Just woke up. Got to have breakfast and study soon. We’ve never met, but I know that you just returned from a long break. I read the most recent comments last night but didn’t reply because I was on my phone.

      How is your day going?

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      • well my day is going great. just finished a project for law school and my driving lesson also went amazingly well. but you said you just had breakfast and that gives me a little mindfuck because it’s dark outside where i llive and i know that there are different time zones and stuff but I also think it’s funny but I’m babbling. what are you studying?

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  91. sorry to be a pain but can anybody get me a US shiny mega gengar code ?
    I heard they’re free but I don’t live in the US… but I’d rather get a Diancie code than a shiny mega gengar code when the event is launched…
    thanks

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