Wow. . .it’s been quite a while, folks! I’ve been keeping up with the site, but I haven’t posted anything in some time. I’ve been posting more on Retry Level, so you can always look for me there. It’s been a tough balance between the two sites!
I’ve been wanting to do a new Starters Untamed for some time now. Pokémon X and Y released some of the most interesting changes to Pokémon games that we’ve seen in a very long time, so I’ve been eager to write about my thoughts and experience in the competitive play realm as they have changed drastically. With the introduction of the new fairy typing, negated resistances of the powerful steel typing, and mega evolutions have brought in so many new strategies into the mix that at first it was quite overwhelming. Because of the huge influx of new concepts brought to competitive play, there are still pieces that have yet to be fully analyzed and tested out. The analysis of this generation of starters will be purely opinionated and, as always, up for (constructive) debate.
This generation’s starters are probably the most interesting that we’ve ever seen. Each contain their complementing dual type that helps counter their opposing foe. Not only that, each starter has their own hidden ability and attacks unique to their own species (aside from Klefki). First up we have Chesnaught, the spiny armor Pokémon. This is the first time we’ve had a non-reptilian grass starter, which has received some mixed feedback (especially from its’ deceptive transition to an awkward looking final evolution). This beefy, intimidating rodent (?) is dawned with the grass/fighting typing, an interesting match up only seen in Breloom and Virizion. It’s stats cater primarily towards a physically strong Pokémon that excels in tanking and physical offense. It’s HP/ATK/DEF clock in at 88/107/122 respectively, which is nothing to take lightly. However, the remaining SpATK, SpDef, and SPD stats are relatively low, only reaching 74/75/64, which leaves Chesnaught vulnerable to the numerous special sweepers that plague competitively play. Its typing, however, acts as a double edged sword. It has plenty of resistances and types that its strong against, but it also comes with six common weaknesses, which include the new fairy typing.
What I love most about Chesnaught is its movepool. It comes with all of the best physical grass type moves like Seed Bomb and Wood Hammer, and it can also learn plenty of useful TMs like Dragon Claw, Stone Edge, Swords Dance, and Earthquake. Perhaps the most interesting thing about Chesnaught is its access to its signature move, Spiky Shield. This moves acts exactly like protect, but damages the opponent if physical contact is made. If playing a more defensive Chesnaught, this combined with Leech Seed can really throw off your opponent by maintaining health and consistent chip damage.
Overall, Chesnaught is a decent addition to the grass type starters and works well up there with the likes of Torterra as far as being a physical tank. Its typing doesn’t really do it any favors, but access to Spiky Shield and other great attacks make it a worthy addition to any team.
Next up we have Delphox, the magical fox Pokémon. Fennekin was easily the fan favorite when the starters were released. We awaited eagerly to see what its final evolution would look like, and Delphox came to us as quite a surprise. Its probably one of the most human-like Pokémon that we’ve seen, and the addition to its magical wand gives it loads of character (not to mention its cry is absolutely horrific). Unfortunately, what Delphox has in aesthetics, it lacks in its abilities as a solid Pokémon. It has the stats of a decent special sweeper, clocking in at 114/100/104 SpAtk, SpDef, and SPD respectively. Its defensive stats aren’t doing it any favors, which make Delphox quite frail if up against a strong, quick opponent. Its typing, fire/psychic, is not the greatest as it leaves it open to the common ghost and dark types, which often out-speed it. Its movepool is a bit of a mixed bag and seems to have lost its identity somewhere in its creation. Should Delphox play its role as a special sweeper? Is it more of a support attacker? It doesn’t have the speed to function well in the sweeping department, and its not defensive enough to remain a support teammate.
I’d have to say that Delphox is sadly the worst of the three starters. It doesn’t excel in any one role in competitive play, which leaves it open to plenty of counters and switch ins. It’s unfortunate as it’s such a cool Pokémon with great concepts and a great design, but it falls short in being anything offensive or anything supportive. There are simply more Pokémon out there to fill this role that can do the job much better than Delphox.
This leaves us with Greninja, the ninja Pokémon. Greninja was probably the biggest surprise for all of us; not many of us were expecting a ninja with its tongue used as a scarf. Greninja not only excels in the coolness factor, but its also a fantastic Pokémon to use. The best of the three starters, really. These are the stats that Delphox should have had; 103/122 in SpAtk and SPD, which allow Greninja to outspeed most of the standard metagame. Its attack also clocks in at 95, which make it a formidable candidate as a physical sweeper, too. Its typing, water and dark, provide far more benefits than counters, however it does leave it open to the new fairy type that plagues the battlefield. Better yet, its movepool is everything we could have hoped and dreamed for in a sweeper. Access to moves like Dark Pulse, Ice Beam, Surf, Grass Knot, U-Turn, Toxic Spikes, and Acrobatics make it difficult to see what Greninja is going to throw out at you.
What makes Greninja so amazing is not just its diverse movepool and useful typing. Its ability, Protean, is arguably one of the most useful Pokémon abilities out there. Protean changes Greninjas type to whatever move it uses. For example, using Ice Beam will change you to a pure ice type. Next, use Grass Knot to change yourself into a pure grass type. This makes Greninja essentially impossible to counter, and it also makes every single move a stab move. This ability alone makes Greninja one of the most versatile Pokémon you can use in a competitive team.
However, Greninja is far from being in the uber tiers. Thankfully, GameFreak balanced out its stats by making it extremely frail, with its HP, Def, and SpDef clocking in at a mere 72/67/71. Also, Greninja isn’t exactly the most powerful attacker out there. It can be a bit difficult for it to 1HKO opponents that are specially defensive or physically defensive, leaving Greninja open to counter measures. Tanks like Blissey and Ferrothorn can take whatever Greninja throws at them (save for attacks not specialized in their defensive stat).
What do you guys think of this generations starters? Do you have a particular favorite? Agree or disagree with my analysis? I’m curious to see how the future generations of starters will compare to this generation. We saw a ton of changes in Pokémon X and Y, most of them necessary to keep the series alive. Hopefully we’ll continue to see more positive changes in the future!

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Can we agree Hilda and Hilbert were the worst Protagonists names?
That’s why I use White or Black or their Japanese names when talking about them :3
I thought they were called Blake and Whitlea?
Hilda i like
Hilbert sucks ass
I don’t believe in their names. They don’t exist!
Ugh, Hilbert is in a list of names I hate. Others include Olga, Helga, and Jeremy >.>
I hate Keith as well
They sound like strong European women 😮
As TC stated, Olga, Helga.. etc.
Hilbert sounds like an average joe kinda guy, but Hilda and Zelda are Sabrina’s aunts and you shall treat them with respect! :O
Meowth = Salem
Yeah! And Sabrina is that gym leader of the same name! 😀
Harvey = male gardevoir
Gallade? That’s….. weird…..
DID YOU JUST MAKE A FCKING SABRINA THE TEENAGE WITCH REFERENCEEE????? :OOOOO
YASSSS
Memories of the show (live-action and cartoon) are coming back! But mostly the live-action version.
The happiest place on Earth is clearly the Pokémon Center, and not Disney Land.
Disney kills animals.
D:
Like Oswald the Rabbit? RIP Oswald D:
Oswald was sold, and then bought back 😀
Oswald > Mickey
I thought of Oswald the octopus when you said that xD
But. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqskqQK-XGA
I feel bad for the animals D:
Poor Lemmings
I actually saw this video already. Also, I’m subscribed to this channel as well 😀
Rest easy poor Oswald I knew thee. Actually, I didn’t, but you get the point.
I meant like real animals 😮
Lemmings. For a film.
O__O
No. It’s the Distorion World.
It’s my hoohoo fun land
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0Og4LaB1Zc
That’s enough Internet for you today.
You should show your parents this. XD
and his brother 😮
Max will love it.
Pokecenter’s are creepy. “We hope to see you again”… So you mean to tellme Nurse Joy, that you’re looking forward to us coming to you with badly injured Pokemon -_-
LOL good point…
Plot Twist: She has a crush on the protagonist. Even the female ones.
ROTLMMFAOOO UBER!!!
Brock would be soooooo jealous tho.
I think I love the Distortion World a little bit too much.
http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/189/d/e/extracard_14___distortion_world_by_bt_ygo-d56g0do.png
Unova confirmed
Primal Kyurem
Dragon/Normal
Absolute Zero (grants Ice type immunity to the user)
Signature Move: Trigonic Laser (Hella Powerful Version of Tri Attack)
BST: 760
Confirmed!
I just realised that I said I was going to bed like 30 minutes ago but I’m still here XD
PJN’s PokéMagnet Ability prevents you from fleeing! >:D
I have levitate :3
I have Magnet Rise.
Give or take 5 months until Move Tutors come back.
Well, it got silent pretty quickly… I’m out. Peace!
Peace!
https://soundcloud.com/scraftybro/turn-down-for-krikettune
Turn down for Krikettune.
Ignore the thumbnail image, it’s a sound. Ok bye.
LOL. I remember this! I posted it on one our articles when I missed the Kricketune Topic!
Wat. xD
Not always going to plow every time we meet 😮 Relax.
So uh. Hi! Whoever’s on ._. Reception’s not great here. And Noivs, could I see the possible Pyram evos?
Design One: http://i.imgur.com/xitS1md.jpg
Design Two : http://i.imgur.com/rjaWqZk.jpg
(Note: I erased the plus symbol on the abdomen of the second one )
Both are Fire/Electric
And i don’t think a lot of people are on anymore. They were driven off by the off topic ness and nicholas cage take over xD
LOL SO RANDOM TOPICS TODAY xD And yeah, I know. But I thought we were going two legged? :/ With lightning bolf horns anda more stormy mane?
It’s not decided so I could still do that :3
The first one looks amazing :OO
Good evening Master!
Hello! 😀
N? Okay, tomorrow then. Or maybe my phone is just lagging even more than usual.And I’m exhausted, so I’ll prolly head out.
Oh wait. So I was being a magical cousin and playing with my 3 year old female cousin, right? So, of course, they all love Frozen and watxhed Iit once or twice while we were here so far, and soo we were playing with a plasic baseball and bat and stand and she started swinging her bat around. She went, “Hi everyone, I’m Elsa and I’m wearing a sweatshirt. This is my sword.” XD It was adorable! Then she told me it was my turn and I had to be Elsa xD
LOL And anyone know the song Wiggle by Jason Derulo? It came on in the car while I was with my 33 and 5 year old male cousins, and one was like, “What did that say?:. And then the other said, “Yeah, did that juat say big fat butt?. And my aunt said, “No, it said big fat bug. Like the giant mosquitoes.” LOL And the rest of the aftrtnoon, the 5 year old kept singing big fat bug over and over again.
*3 not 33.
My mom’s side of the family has so many young, entertaining kids, but the 5 year old I mentioned and a couple others can be annoying cause they idolize me and want to play nonstop and hold my hands everywhere.
They wanna lift and mege like you 😮
This isn’t even my final forme!
I know. It’s one of them. 😀
Lol it’s scary to know that I may’ve passed you sometime Iin my life or very recently.
I’m always watching
<..>
*Runs*
Um. *hears footsteps on driveway*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBs21CFBALI
Thanks for reading my stories lol. There are tons more, but I really should get some sleep in a few and I don’y know how much you all want to hear lol. So, I’ll be going for now. Night! Oh, and tell Dicie sorry I haven’t/can’t publish until next Saturday or so. Like, a week and a hald away. Well, I may be able to. Idk. I’ll check later.
I want to read Harry Potter next
Spoilers…
…
Harry’s a wizard.
The Titanic sinks
Spoilers…
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There’s a protagonist.
Spoilers!
Riversong says that
Lol wait one moee related to H.P. My aunt was reading this website about fails in Harry Potter. One was, “Why, if you can’t cast a spell on Harry, just kill him some other way, like throw him out the window?” XD
His scare travels across his head
His enemies should have bonded with their weapons better so they could use Bankai.
Oh. Wrong franchise.
Next time, I’ll add more more ellipses to Spoiler Comments so you can click “Show More” to see the spoiler.
These screen shots of ORAS sound amazing <3
Oh and
This song though:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhToHc55Ugk
Hoenn possibly has the best music of the whole franchise <3
it's just so…
whole hearted and sweet
and they all tell a story
I never knew a song could paint such a picture with notes.
*with notes XD
Paint with all the coloes of the notes…
And wind.
and gas
Mother of Arceus!! I can’t stop whistling to the rhythm of this song!!!
oh gosh im in love:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXLQBORchxE
Go to PM.
PM?
Poking Men
OK?
I apologize for not responding earlier. My internet crashed right as I tried to send it. It mean Private messaging.
It’s all good. Thanks.
No problem 🙂
I promise you. I will play the HELL out of ORAS! Unfortunately, I don’t replay Pokémon Games because I fear of losing my team. I know there’s the Bank, but there’s also achievements I can’t risk losing.
The problem with Bank imo is that it can’t carry items. I like to collect Mega Stones, and it with it not carrying items, it bugs me. I have to trade them to get them over.
Until the next generation arrives and we can’t give each other any items at all, unless we are given a Time Capsule again.
Oh My Arceus!!!!! That electro and dubstep remix sounds like a rave for pokefans!!! I AM IN LOVE TOO!!!
Okay, now I should really go. Midnight here. Get to bed, Ignis! So night everone! I hope I can speak better tomorrow.
But I must drawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
I am now going to sleep ;o;
Why does o one pay attention to how sad the Blue/red rescue team endings were…
I mean
It was FREAKING SAD!!!! D:
It was ;~;
y no one love it ;~;
(Probably because it was so hard no one got to the end) XD
but srsly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfoFwgkbQCQ
D,:
I made it to the end twice >:D I did cry a little
It’s sad, in all honesty. Can’t believe how emotional these games can get.
I cried at that ending and the explorers ending.
But not for GTI. I haven’t gotten to the exact end yet.
I found it even more heartbreaking.
That’s a lie
That music is from the rainbow stone ship part In pokemon mystery dungeon explorers of T/D/S
I finally got time to play the Mystery Dungeon series and, even though the gameplay is repetitive, they are awesome games! The plot is very good, the characters are memorable and the soundtrack is incredible!
Play all the games! 😀 :3
Did you play all of them or just one? :3
I just made a new region so I could have an Asylum in it XD
Arkham Style?
@Big_Ol_Booty:disqus You need to make a chatroom for us to conversate privately. Dunno why Chatango is like this 🙁
@Big_Ol_Booty:disqus @kingepic2200:disqus
I finished coloring each of your megas!!!
Torterra <3 Omg these are amazing!
Thanks, I love the Cherry Blossom Tree on Torterra’s shell! It drive my nuts in the good way!!! Ha ha
You ALWAYS impress me!!! You are so amazing at drawing!
Thanks Luigi!!! XD
both are immensely beautiful. I can see you getting picked up by gamefreak soon lol! Don’t forget about us!! XD
also!! Torterra is great, but I couldn’t help but post this lol. The spikes on it reminded me of an open potato ^_^
http://www.cooktimewithremmi.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Baked-Potato1.jpg
You remind me of an open potato lol 😉
I ain’t goin’ anywhere and if I did, I still look at this site like everyday. Call me crazy haha
Ability Potato Farm confirmed!!! Lol
Hoenn Confirmed :,) I love it :xxxxx
My bby walrein lookin fierce :,DDDDDD
I love it <3
Djja did u see his dewgong? i was actually suprise! and i know u will hate it because u hate dewgong 😀
I saw it.
Baby Walrein is all grown up now! They grow up so fast! Lol
Will you marry me?
Yeah!!! ha ha
Is anyone here? I’ve got an idea with how they can do prequels for X and Y.
Tell me :O
Hey guys ^-^ Haven’t been here in like 5 months x) can you guys check out my video? I recreated the Oldale Town theme for ORAS 😀 Let me know what you think!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOyrzqg6Q28
^^^ I love this guy.
And I love you
I love itttttt ;~;
Can you do more??? :DDDDDDD
Thank you 🙂 of course 😀
I woke up today feeling Mega Milotic in my veins. I’m trying to imagine the most beautiful Pokemon become even more beautiful. And the perfect combination of the light blue and gold on her shiny form… I wanna cry.
And I thought of a cool design maybe! I can’t remember the name of them, but you know those girls that cover their mouths with those fans? And somehow they are related to beauty? Maybe Milotic will mega evolve and her pose will be her fan-like tail over her mouth. And she fans herself because she’s too hot for everyone as her standby pose. I’M HYPE.
Tessenjutsu, the martial art of the Japanese war fan. I love this idea and actually was going to make a fake scan of Mega Milotic a while ago using this same design xD her tail could wield a collapsable war fan, which would spring open and be used to attack, or open up to fan herself when idle. Beautiful, yet deadly.
YES! THIS! I love it! 😡
“I’m trying to imagine the most beautiful Pokémon become even more beautiful” IKR how dare they give Diancie a mega ^_^
” of “
What if her mega form makes her look more like feebas? :ooo
OMG I’d cry laughing so hard.
I hope if dragonite gets a mega it looks more like dragonair ;~;
I hope so too. Or they give Dragonair it’s own mega..
http://s30.postimg.org/5ffhgwj29/unnamed_1.jpg
True! I always wonder why or how does a serpent like creature like dragonair goes to a dragonite! They look nothing alike but same goes for trapinch and flygon or bagon and shelgon haha
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m780liPky31qah5qq.png
I just fell out of my chair laughing
“Help me”
I’m done with my exams and sixth form, I’ve waited for this day for so long and I am finally free.
Time to start MMing for Honedge, Noibat and Flabèbè
@jmblaq:disqus ahhh im so late i picture mega dewgong like that 😀
Hey Skiddo u wouldn’t have competitively bred a Gogoat in the past and have a few extra eggs?
i could do it now
Well i don’t wanna strain you
i was just wondering
well i have nothing better to do and i could MM
I did lol. Shame I have no eggs leftover. This was back in like December
Damn
Oh well i guess might as well pick one up at the Safari
I have a perfect 5iv shiny one with ALL of its egg moves ^_^
Didn’t it only have like Defense Curl and Rollout or something?
I’ll double check.
***oo just checked, its 6IV LMAO
…. (refresh)
Thats cool, bro! I hoped you like it! If you want, I can even add color to match its concept art too!
go head!
J.mblaq If pheobe mega evolves her walrein and it looks anything near that I’d cry from happiness ;~;
Glacia
Oops XD
y i mix them up they’re my favorite e4 ;~; XDD
Yeah too bad they didn’t get much (or any) Screen time
I think Drake Got to battle ash!
He did
but no mention of anyone else
Oh my Arceus! I would cry too!!! What if every elite four members had a mega!!!!
2 op.
4 u
Yeah but I love a challenge. I mean I don’t think it was just me but is every generation getting more easier and less challenging?
After sinnoh it starts getting easier
Sinnoh was EXTREMELY easy if you picked empoleon.
I chose infernape 🙁
lel
Empoleon was my bae for that gen and I hate how Dawn didnt evolve her piplup. I mean may was a better coordinator because she evolved her baby torchic to a Blaziken, for Arceus sake! Lol
I LOVE may.
She was definitely ash’s best female companion at battling.
She actually LEARNED from her mistakes.
And the way she took down ariados with squirtle is too beautiful <3
Kalos can be pretty challenging if you turn off the EXP share