Wow. . .it’s been quite a while, folks! I’ve been keeping up with the site, but I haven’t posted anything in some time. I’ve been posting more on Retry Level, so you can always look for me there. It’s been a tough balance between the two sites!
I’ve been wanting to do a new Starters Untamed for some time now. Pokémon X and Y released some of the most interesting changes to Pokémon games that we’ve seen in a very long time, so I’ve been eager to write about my thoughts and experience in the competitive play realm as they have changed drastically. With the introduction of the new fairy typing, negated resistances of the powerful steel typing, and mega evolutions have brought in so many new strategies into the mix that at first it was quite overwhelming. Because of the huge influx of new concepts brought to competitive play, there are still pieces that have yet to be fully analyzed and tested out. The analysis of this generation of starters will be purely opinionated and, as always, up for (constructive) debate.
This generation’s starters are probably the most interesting that we’ve ever seen. Each contain their complementing dual type that helps counter their opposing foe. Not only that, each starter has their own hidden ability and attacks unique to their own species (aside from Klefki). First up we have Chesnaught, the spiny armor Pokémon. This is the first time we’ve had a non-reptilian grass starter, which has received some mixed feedback (especially from its’ deceptive transition to an awkward looking final evolution). This beefy, intimidating rodent (?) is dawned with the grass/fighting typing, an interesting match up only seen in Breloom and Virizion. It’s stats cater primarily towards a physically strong Pokémon that excels in tanking and physical offense. It’s HP/ATK/DEF clock in at 88/107/122 respectively, which is nothing to take lightly. However, the remaining SpATK, SpDef, and SPD stats are relatively low, only reaching 74/75/64, which leaves Chesnaught vulnerable to the numerous special sweepers that plague competitively play. Its typing, however, acts as a double edged sword. It has plenty of resistances and types that its strong against, but it also comes with six common weaknesses, which include the new fairy typing.
What I love most about Chesnaught is its movepool. It comes with all of the best physical grass type moves like Seed Bomb and Wood Hammer, and it can also learn plenty of useful TMs like Dragon Claw, Stone Edge, Swords Dance, and Earthquake. Perhaps the most interesting thing about Chesnaught is its access to its signature move, Spiky Shield. This moves acts exactly like protect, but damages the opponent if physical contact is made. If playing a more defensive Chesnaught, this combined with Leech Seed can really throw off your opponent by maintaining health and consistent chip damage.
Overall, Chesnaught is a decent addition to the grass type starters and works well up there with the likes of Torterra as far as being a physical tank. Its typing doesn’t really do it any favors, but access to Spiky Shield and other great attacks make it a worthy addition to any team.
Next up we have Delphox, the magical fox Pokémon. Fennekin was easily the fan favorite when the starters were released. We awaited eagerly to see what its final evolution would look like, and Delphox came to us as quite a surprise. Its probably one of the most human-like Pokémon that we’ve seen, and the addition to its magical wand gives it loads of character (not to mention its cry is absolutely horrific). Unfortunately, what Delphox has in aesthetics, it lacks in its abilities as a solid Pokémon. It has the stats of a decent special sweeper, clocking in at 114/100/104 SpAtk, SpDef, and SPD respectively. Its defensive stats aren’t doing it any favors, which make Delphox quite frail if up against a strong, quick opponent. Its typing, fire/psychic, is not the greatest as it leaves it open to the common ghost and dark types, which often out-speed it. Its movepool is a bit of a mixed bag and seems to have lost its identity somewhere in its creation. Should Delphox play its role as a special sweeper? Is it more of a support attacker? It doesn’t have the speed to function well in the sweeping department, and its not defensive enough to remain a support teammate.
I’d have to say that Delphox is sadly the worst of the three starters. It doesn’t excel in any one role in competitive play, which leaves it open to plenty of counters and switch ins. It’s unfortunate as it’s such a cool Pokémon with great concepts and a great design, but it falls short in being anything offensive or anything supportive. There are simply more Pokémon out there to fill this role that can do the job much better than Delphox.
This leaves us with Greninja, the ninja Pokémon. Greninja was probably the biggest surprise for all of us; not many of us were expecting a ninja with its tongue used as a scarf. Greninja not only excels in the coolness factor, but its also a fantastic Pokémon to use. The best of the three starters, really. These are the stats that Delphox should have had; 103/122 in SpAtk and SPD, which allow Greninja to outspeed most of the standard metagame. Its attack also clocks in at 95, which make it a formidable candidate as a physical sweeper, too. Its typing, water and dark, provide far more benefits than counters, however it does leave it open to the new fairy type that plagues the battlefield. Better yet, its movepool is everything we could have hoped and dreamed for in a sweeper. Access to moves like Dark Pulse, Ice Beam, Surf, Grass Knot, U-Turn, Toxic Spikes, and Acrobatics make it difficult to see what Greninja is going to throw out at you.
What makes Greninja so amazing is not just its diverse movepool and useful typing. Its ability, Protean, is arguably one of the most useful Pokémon abilities out there. Protean changes Greninjas type to whatever move it uses. For example, using Ice Beam will change you to a pure ice type. Next, use Grass Knot to change yourself into a pure grass type. This makes Greninja essentially impossible to counter, and it also makes every single move a stab move. This ability alone makes Greninja one of the most versatile Pokémon you can use in a competitive team.
However, Greninja is far from being in the uber tiers. Thankfully, GameFreak balanced out its stats by making it extremely frail, with its HP, Def, and SpDef clocking in at a mere 72/67/71. Also, Greninja isn’t exactly the most powerful attacker out there. It can be a bit difficult for it to 1HKO opponents that are specially defensive or physically defensive, leaving Greninja open to counter measures. Tanks like Blissey and Ferrothorn can take whatever Greninja throws at them (save for attacks not specialized in their defensive stat).
What do you guys think of this generations starters? Do you have a particular favorite? Agree or disagree with my analysis? I’m curious to see how the future generations of starters will compare to this generation. We saw a ton of changes in Pokémon X and Y, most of them necessary to keep the series alive. Hopefully we’ll continue to see more positive changes in the future!

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So…how do you end a Region Wars? We start a new War! What haven’t we done in quite some time? We just has Shipping Wars recently. Chapion Wars will just build more fire to the already heated Region Wars.
I know! Type Wars? Or Mega Wars perhaps?
Shipping Wars please.
All in favor of Shipping Wars?
(you can raise your hand or say “I”)
I.
*raises arm and says I*
Shipping wars???
*raises hand* I !!!!!!!
Starter wars
Aqua vs magma wars
boutique.
There’s a lot! 😀
I’m down for Starter Wars. I don’t think Aqua vs Magma Wars would be a good idea though, seeing that we still have an Aqua Theme going on. Boutique Wars sounds fun.
Type Wars is an easy one…Steel wins every day of the week
Mega one is a tad more difficult, cos Gardevoir and Tyranitar are blatantly the best
I agree with Steel as it is my favorite Type. IDK what to say about Megas seeing that I’ve only used one Mega my whole life.
Abomasnow?
Yes. Abomasnow. XD
Type wise… Dark! Love the Pokes
Mega wise… Mega Kang 😛 Jk actually Mega Gyarados
You misspelled ‘Steel’
You misspelled “I will lose to Rio in the PJN tourney”
I never was good at spelling 🙁
😛 I’m excited to battle against you!
It’s been so long. I plan out a team, but then i’m too lazy to breed it and forget what I planned :$
You should get on that! I’ve been ready for a couple months now 🙂
Yeh. I just finished exams last Friday…time to dig out the old 3DS and get back into action
My favorite types go Dark, then Electric, then Bug (which is underrated) then maybe Water, and then everything else and then grass is last. Weakest type. I only like Grass if they’re dual types usually.
So what do you think of AshxMay?
It’s greater than all of the others.
But I like May X Drew more.
And May could do SO much better.
NO Ash will not lose to some rose eating cocky coordinator.
Thank you!
Too bad he would in a battle….let’s be real
His Sinnoh team would reck though.
Trueeee. Loved that team.
Yeah I like May and Drew. They both like competitions so all is good
contests**
Should have happened. Drew can go crawl in a hole. But now that Serena’s in the picture, that’s more than likely to happen now.
nah! May X Drew <3
^This
Yes.
How is MayxArchie?
Too far?
…I ship this…And ArchieXShelly <3 <3 <3
BrockXNurse Joy is the best shipping ever!
BrockxLucy
I second this.
Brock does not deserve any of the Nurse Joy. He’s annoying AF
Which one?
It’s the Unova one isn’t it?
Moving X Shelly
NoLettuceQuesadilla (NLQue) X Lettuce
YES!
HoennXSinnoh
This is the second time seeing so,eome post this. What does that mean?
The “X” ?
No XD the whole thing with NL?
RubyxSapphire anyone? or RedxYellow?
RedXBlue
I think it’s BluexSilver. I wanted BluexRed though.
Looks like we’re moving to Shipping Wars!
Begin!
*slams gavel despite the fact that everyone’s started already*
Don’t mess with those OTPs. 😉
“Disqus is dumb” by DrBigD
I will find this DrBigD.
DrBigD is Maple. Maple is DrBigD
Aka mr. If yu don’t agree with me then yu are wrong
Ok. Who here is a Trevor and named Disqus “Big D”?
MaxXBonnie is where it’s at xD
Max X Vivi
Max x Bonnie x Vivi Triangle Confirmed!
I forget who is vivi
SernenaXclemont
Why??
I would say Ash and Misty, but I think Misty could do better honestly…she hot. Steven and Cynthia though
*golf claps*
Good show Sir. I do like this pairing indeed. Both are very serious about archaeology and would make a great couple!
Aw yeahhh. Plus they’re probably the two most powerful Champions. And they’re both very intellectual! And they seem to be similar in age as well
Never liked Misty.
Neither did I! 😀
Ash would’ve had Togekiss!
I know! And a lot less unnecessary bruises.
Ash doesn’t use Evo Stones though.
She sassy and don’t put up with Ash and Brocks shyt. Plus Starmie used to be one of my favorite pokemon :3
YES!!! I’M NOT THE ONLY ONE!!! AG Misty’s a different story though.
Diantha x Serena
Lyra X Silver
Yes, this is my true OTP. Seriously.
This is one of my OTPs too!
OTP? I have heard this. One true pair?
Lyra x that one guy with the glasses who had a Totadile.
Anabel x Ash?
Anabel X PercyEspeon
Say what now? :O D:
You look like a match 😉
I don’t like girls D:
Anabel the frontier brain.
Ash couldn’t even tell she was a Girl…
But anabel had feelings for him.
Ash has Aura, Anabel has powers like that.
Anabel x Ash.
*nods head in agreement*
BrendanXSteven.. I ship this so hard
http://www.wiinintendo.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/pokemon-generation-zero.jpg
Sometimes i wish this was real q.q
Can we sit on benches?
I know that photo ;-; I really want this ;-;
Hey it’s professor oak.
And Agatha <3
This would be amazing for the 20th anniversary xD
Agreed. It also adds to the lore 😀
Why LyraXSilver and not BlueXSIlver?
Because.
That Radio Tower stripping scene.
Plus, you made Silver respect Pokemon.
And plus, have you seen fanart.and fanfics of this couple. It is so adorable.
too adorable <3 I need to go to tumblr a.k.a. Shipping Hell
Shipping? xD Stripping 😉
PercyEspeon and GentlemanOfSinnoh strippin ;D XD
xD Sure 😉
Nono GoldxCrystal. (Does it matter if I use Lyra or Crystal?)
Both are two different people. IT is specified that way.
I ship that. Especially if Gold is a perv and Crystal just smacks him for it :3
Are you talking about the anime? She just switches clothes in the manga.
No game-wise. All my ships are based on game, because I don’t watch the anime and read the manga.
Game-wise it is specified they are two different people.
Oh I see then yea, I agree. You should read it though it’s actually good.
Awwwwwwwww…..SO ADORABLE! I SHIP IT <3
I used to think glacia was old XD
Because she did in ruby and sapphire XD
Now that I see her official art, I realized she’s like 20! 😀
Wait, she’s not? This is genuinely news for me xD
There’s ORAS Art of her?!?!
I love Glacia <3 My 2nd fav elite 4 (my fav 4 is Phoebe)
BTW From Hoenn 😉
Jessie x Astin
I ship LyraxSilver (OTP!)
RosaxHugh
NxWhite
WhitexCheren
CherenxBianca
LeafxGreen
Dawn(game)xBarry
SerenaxCalem.
Yeah all game ships.
We’ll need to take this to UPS and ship it like no one’s ever shipped before!
😀
I have so many ships, I can make a sea army 😉
Don’t play Battleship with them. Can’t risk having them sink.
I know, no sinking for my pretty ships D:
I’m a weirdo…I have a list of “couples” that I ship….
Where’s Phoebe X Sidney :OOOOOO BTW I ship all of them XD
The E4 ship I ship is ShauntalxGrimsley. I entertained the idea for a bit xD
I ship GrimsleyXCaitlin cause’ Shauntal is mine <3 <3 <3
I can see why. Book writer, she would be my friend :3
That’s why I don’t ship Lucian with anyone. He is my Pokecrush. Uses a Espeon in Platinum, bookreader. Looks hecka amazing.
Just mine <3
Ikr Shauntal is perf!
Lucian is perf too.
Oh! And his glasses.
Just be real, Lucian, please. And Shauntal. So she can be my best friend for lifes.
THE BEST GROUP OF FRIENDS :Me,You,Lucian,Shauntal, Mawile
YESSSS
And I’d be dating Lucian. Cause let’s be honest, he can’t resist me 😉
And I’d be dating Shauntal ;D and Mawile…someone.
We’ll play matchmaker :3
LucianxPercyEspeon and TheHipsterLizaxShauntal.
OTPs.
I don’t know Danny. Three’s a crowd. You take Shauntal. With Djja’s permission, I’ll take Anabel.
Forget the permission. Ima use Thief!
Yay 😀 LucianxPercyEspeon and TheHipsterLizaxShauntal and UberMawileXAnabel
Oh and Cynthia and Lance. Dunno why, but I read this really cute fanfic about it :3
Is it incorrect to assume Brock leaving for good was one of the best things for the anime? Seriously we had to put up with like 12 seasons (or however many) of his annoying objectification of women. Well usually. Even though he was replaced by Cilan who used an excessive amount of connoisseur terminology to the point where I wanted to hit him in the head.
Bonnie’s gag is way better.
I have yet to watch X&Y anime. I have no idea when it’s on
You can stream it on the Internet. Can’t link you though because it’s against Da Rules.
It’s okay. I’ll find it!
Bonnie is the Brock he could never be in terms of gag humor.
I don’t mind it anymore, but I hated Cilan. Bonnie and Clemont are a lot better than Brock in my opinion.
But poor brock was lonely q.q
He should’ve dated that Ghastly who was disguised as a woman from season 1
I like to pretend that Lucy and Brock got together off scree.
Hey haven’t been able to get online in a while, I’m just saying a quick hello 🙂 Hope everyone’s Good 🙂
We’re good. And welcome back!
Who would you ship Caitlin with? Durach?
Yes. She and Durach is a must!
Grimsley <3
Who should Benga be paired with? Does anyone even care about Benga? Do you even know who Benga is?!?!
….Nobody….
Benga x Benga?
^^^^ Is already a canon 😉
Ship it via UPS and call it a day. 🙂
Maybe Liza!
NEVER NEVER NEVER
I care about him. Maybe him and Iris
What about my girl Flannery? Is she that Irrelevant?
Flannery x Morty xD
Flannery and Flint!
OMG YES!!! Fire x Fire collide!