Yesterday we broke a long-standing record on the site: we finally beat the highest number of views we’ve had in a single day on the site, and we hope to beat the latest record come X & Y. Admittedly we slacked a little yesterday and didn’t bring the promised continuation of The Journey to X & Y with the start of Generation II. As such we’re a little unprepared for today, the planned article isn’t finished and we don’t have any back-ups. What do we do?! We try something new…
As each new Pokémon Generation comes around there’s always a list of new features and ideas fans want to see incorporated into the games. Whether or not anything of that list can be crossed off is of course down to the dedicated team developing the games. What if you could us Dialga’s Roar of Time to turn back time and make one change? Any change you wanted. What would that change be?
You could pick something obvious to change about Generation II, but we want you to think up something big and potentially game changing, but keep it realistic. Don’t forget to think about how the change would effect the future of the series, of course time is all wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey but in some way it would alter the games as we now know them.
What are you waiting for? Get those brains ticking and turn back the clock! We should also apologise for not publishing an article as we promised yesterday, but we’re kicking off the week now even if it is with this quickly thought up article. Hopefully it’ll get our readers thinking regardless!
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The worst part of Gen 2 was how badly spaced out the new Pokemon were. When a gen starts one now expects to see a lot more new Pokemon than old, but in Johto the new Pokemon were rarer than Kanto ones.
Skarmory, for example, is so rare you can only catch it in one of the last route’s of the game, and only one trainer actually uses it. I’ve seen a lot of people confuse Skarmory and the Slugma line as being part of Gen 3 due to how common to find they were in Hoenn.
And Sneasel isn’t available until mt. silver! your rival just flaunts it in your face, clear hax
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheComputerIsACheatingBastard
How dare you link TV Tropes! It’s impossible to escape!
It’s a never-ending cycle. I know.
larvitar aswell peeps.
Actually Silver apparently stole the Sneasel from the person who gives you Shuckle in Cianwood City, at first you think he stole another Shuckle but it was apparently Sneasel.
Wow I never knew that :p
I never knew it until a few years ago lol, I always thought Silver took a different Shuckle and then just put in the PC or abandoned it cause he deemed it as weak or something. I was amazed when I found out it was a Sneasel
Me 2
excuse me but how did you know that he stole Sneasel??
By talking to the AI’s
I have never seen Slugma and Dunsparce in old generation 2 games. I have always thought they were intrıduced in Gen 3.
xD Dunsparce appeared in the first cave (the one you need to use flash before the first gym). That was actually my first encounter there.
%1 rate pretty rare
Now that makes me feel lucky.
Really? I remember running into dunsparce all the time in that cave.
I caught it and trained it because i thought it would evolve into a legendary Pokemon
Slugma was only found in daytime to the west of Fushia City in Kanto
It has %5 chance and poor me, didn’t know that this Pokemon even exists due to lack of internet.
You can image what I had to do, see as I played a japanese game, with no internet or any idea how to read japanese…..
lol good old times. they had really different taste.
I know right! Slugma and Skarmory were no were to be seen in gen 2 but all of sudden are common as heck in gen 3. And honestly I pretty sure when we think of Skarmory and Slugma we think back to playing RSE
EDIT: And Houndour, can’t forget Houndour
True, I actually caught my first Skarmory in Ruby. I was really surprised to catch one in SoulSilver, I didn’t even know they were there when I played the original Silver. Plus they are exclusive to Silver…
I always thought of Skarmory as a Gen 3 Pokemon, not necessarily Slugma, but it was a pain. I caught my first Skarmory in Ruby as well. 🙂
I was the other way around!
I know right all the new pokemon were sometimes difficult to find. I remember trying to find houndour on my Crystal Oh My GOODNESS it took me forever until my brother told me its not even in the Johto region.
Well, maybe the thought that making the newer Pokemon harder to find (and to know what they did) added to the feeling of having a new Pokemon game. Expanding the journey into the unknown.
The more I know…
Yeah, this is a big complaint of mine.
I thought Skarmory and Slugma were Gen III as well.
(I also thought Sudowoodo was Gen IV >.>)
How would you think that Sudowoodo is Gen 4? there was an entire subquest to get the pail in Gold and Silver so you could get past the Sudowoodo!
I never made that mistake about Skarmory or Slugma, but I did think for a long time that Lickitung was a Generation II Pokémon. Also, I kept getting confused as to whether Marill was from Gen. I or Gen. II for a while, and sometimes I forget if the Medicham line is from Gen. III or Gen. IV. And while it isn’t exactly the same as the other examples, after seeing the animé episode featuring it in Johto I looked for Kecleon in my Crystal Pokédex. I was like “Where is it? I can’t find it anywhere!”
I would 86 the night and day/time dependent function that required a battery. My favorite game, Silver no longer works because it’s battery went dry. while it was a nice novelty for the games, its not been in any other games except for the gen II and remakes.
If anything, they should have made the night and day function run on the same process Egg hatching works of. x number of steps changes the time from night to day.
Uhm every game aside from Red, Blue, Green, and yellow had used this feature… And in the GBA games or also depended on a battery
The night and day function only was in gen II and their remakes, the time function was in gen III games but not the gen I remakes, and the time function was very very limited in RSE. Also, since the birth of the DA, the games have used the DS system time, leaving them not dependent on tracking their own time with a battery that dies. Nintendo should have either waited, or made it where you could have the battery easily replaced without jeopardizing the saved game. It might have come off ugly, but they could have given GSC a AAA battery input just over the label, it there is enough room. Heck, even making the cartridge with small Philip head screws so you could remove the back panel and replace the watch battery would have been a good move on their side, and as mentioned, made sure it didn’t impede the game data in any way.
I’d definitely raise the wild Pokémon levels. Trying to get leveled up was a PAIN in Gen. II, though I understand that was improved at least slightly in HGSS.
That or a VS Seeker.. that made Pearl/Diamond for me.
Speaking of that, where the F**K did the VS seeker go!?
It was such an amazing device when it was introduced! I don’t understand why they removed it from Generation 5!
Exactly! I only really ended up having three Pokémon in HGSS: Meganium, Togetic/Furret, and Shiny Gyarados
Pokémon Silver was my first Pokémon game, given to me by a friend. If I could change anything, I don’t know what I’d do.
Everything. EVERYTHING.
Such a flawed generation. The Pokemon leveling, the Pokemon selection in Johto, the evil team (something other than Team Rocket or a Team Rocket that isn’t just basically begging to get Giovanni back), cutting out Kanto so Johto can not suck as a region, less baby Pokemon, either give Red a new team or replace him entirely with someone who isn’t a horrible boss fight, etc. etc. etc.
The only good thing was everything about Blue and how he was handled. Oh and the mechanics changes I guess. Those can stay.
Whitney not being cheap.
And Pokemon like Xatu being available earlier.
And Kanto having higher level Pokemon. Why would I want a level 4 Pikachu when I’m already level 60?
And those -fucking phone calls-.
If you’re going to call me you better have something amazing to say.
“It’s like my Rattata is in the top percentage of Rattatas.”-Youngster Joey.
Dude he levels his Rattata to like, level 60 if you keep battling him. WTF.
Doesn’t it also have the best IVs (or DVs in that gen?)?
I didn’t know it had perfect DVs….cool xD
I guess it really was the top percentage Rattata.
he evolves it around level 30-40
Did somebody mention my name?
All hail Xatu!
NO! KYU rains supreme!
I probably had my best team ever in Soul Silver:
Typhlosion
Ampharos
Red Gyarados
Ursaring
Tyranitar
Dragonite
One thing I would probably change about Gen II was obviously how they didn’t incorporate the legendary into the story line
To be honest I loved everything about the second generation! They added so many new mechanics and features, including being able to breed pokemon for the first time! And the sprites were so nice to look at that it boggled me as a child! But to make it interesting: I’d have put in new fossil pokemon, as it is the only gen that doesn’t have them! It could have made an interesting side story, potentially involving Rocket.
The only thing I can think of is stopping mom from buying this random stuff with money u win…..so annoying
That was actually optional. She asks if you want her to save some money or not
Good point! I was referencing how she does it when u ask her to save it
Makes me think of this every time.
http://www.halolz.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/halolz-dot-com-pokemon-heartgold-soulsilver-momspendingmoneycomic.jpg
I would change how Lances team is set up. 3 Dragonites!?!?!? That’s wayy too overpowered.
Ice beam = no problem
and this is a team tha don’t fits to a champion, champion’s team should have different pokemon!
The phone calls, those stupid random phone calls. I feel the poke swarms could have been incorporated into the Radio instead of having trainers call you.
I don’t want reductive Dialga to use Roar of Time. I mean we have Gen 2 Pokemon Serebii for that.
Celebi doesn’t have a good move for the title. Plus Dialga is clearly more bad-ass, and why would we use a rival sites name? 😉
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I love GSC, though I agree with others that the levels of the wild pokemon should be upped, and the introduction of new pokemon such as houndour, misdreavus, sneasle, smeargle, among others, should have been obtainable, at least within the Johto region, before heading off to the Kanto League.
Now for a substantial change…maybe scrap the battle tower or completely revamp it. Add more rewards than vitamins.
Add new battle modes and tournaments.
Add a gym leader tournament, or a monotype tournament.
I just skipped over the battle tower, though it could have easily been a fun feature.
I would have really loved it if Jasmine had been a more difficult trainer… but with only 4/5 steel-types to choose from my substantial change wish would be for there to be more steel (and dark) type pokemon released, since there were so few of each compared to ~200 pokemon.
How Amazing Feraligatr Is 😀
The addition of Fossil Pokemon native to Johto. Rock/Dark and Rock/Steel.
I do wish to know everyone’s team through Johto mine was:
Typholsion
Noctowl
Ampharos
Ursaring
Umbreon
Politoed
I do admit my team was pretty bad
My team:
Typhlosion
Furret (HM slave)
Pidgey (HM slave)
That’s it.
Meganium
Arcanine
Kingdra
Ampharos
Miltank
Piloswine
Feraligatr
Probably Pidgeot
Maybe Butterfree
Red Gyarados
…
Wow, I have no idea. I can’t remember it at all. I may have transferred over all my old ones from Red and swept with them. I’m ashamed to think that I did, but I was only about 9. I probably used Mewtwo, Raichu, and Venusaur. Either that or I swept them with a super-over-leveled Feraligatr.
Meganium, Furret/Togetic, and Shiny Gyarados
Doctor Who reference… Love it. Fossils would’ve been nice, along with an easier way to obtain Celebi.
The major problem with GSC was the level-scaling. Wild Pokemon go up from lvl2 to 25 at a reasonable pace, and then it plateaus in the 30’s. Even the final area doesn’t have any Pokemon above lvl 50 or so, making leveling to beat Red an obnoxious grind. Oddly, Heart Gold and Soul Silver did not really do much to fix that, although they mostly fixed the other big issue, that Kanto seemed like an empty wasteland.
One mistake I don’t think they’ll ever make again is having some new Pokemon unavailable until after beating the Elite Four, like Slugma, Houndour, Murkrow, Larvitar, and Sneasel. Also, Kanto Pokemon were largely the stars of the game, aside from the starters. Most of the new Pokemon that were available pre E4 were rare. And a lot of the Johto Pokemon were…terrible. Not design-wise so much as in terms of stats and movepool.
Ahh GSC…the last pokemon game I played with absolutely ZERO spoilers, because I didn’t have a computer at the time. Plus my first game was a japanese gold version, so I got the game 1 year before it’s english release. I remember all of my friends would come over to my house to watch me play. Since I couldn’t read japanese, there were no strategy guide, it was the hardest pokemon game I ever played as of today. I beat the whole game, but you could imagine my reaction when I realized you can go to kanto and you can battle red. When I got english silver version a year later, I realized how easy the game was if you can actually read stuff properly.
This was my 2nd favorite generation.
Positives:
Pokemon Variety, Red/Blue, Kanto, Holding Items, Dark/Steel, Team Rocket, Shiny pokemon, Day/Night, Transferability with RBY, Connectivity with Pokemon Stadium 2, Roaming Legendaries,
Negatives:
Very low leveled battles, Environment is bland (buildings, forests, and caves)
Playing a japanese game? New level of difficulty.
Tell me about it….god I had no idea the the house next to whitney had the squritbottle…..you have no idea how long it took me to find that out…..and the number of things I tried to get past sudowoodo…..all of which failed
Crystal was my first game, and it will always be my favorite. If I could change anything, it would be the lack of available/total new pokemon, especially fossil pokemon.
I remember hearing about Crystal having animated sprites and girl option. That was pretty new that time and I was dreaming of how animations would be. I have never had a chance playing it though.
Crystal was my first game too.
Gotta say gen II legendaries were awesome, and from my group of friends I was the only with a Suicune, since they had gold and silver.
But yes, new fossils or the availability of the older ones would have been awesome, since is near Kanto.
For me it was perfect since it was my first game, but gotta say that iwhatever failed in gen II was pretty much fixed on gen III and the remakes
Probably something that should have made its way to at least gen 3, was once you beat the game you have the option to start a new game with diffuclity modes like hard and export modes which I hope they introduce in x and y.
I really wish gym leaders use new pokemon of the region such as:
Faulkner-Hoothoot
Bugsy-Pineco
Morty-Misdrevaus
Chuck-Hitmontop
I totally agree with you,
Gym Leaders should try use Pokemon native to their respected regions.
Like using Pokemon native to its region when starting a new journey
I could have seen Faulkner with Hoothoot or Murkrow, and Bugsy with Pineco or Ledian. Pryce I can understand though since the only Ice-types introduced were Sneasel, Swinub, Piloswine, and Delibird and well it would have been a joke to give him Delibird.
but imagine how hilarious it would of been if he used present and you got healed.
I Kinda wonder about The The gen 6 gym leaders.
I love Johto. I played and loved Red, but Silver was the first game I poured hours and hours on end into. Finding something to change would be pretty tough. I could say to make more Johto Pokemon available earlier, but I think Johto gets away with mixing in more Kanto ones because it was only the second generation and some people hadn’t played Red/Blue/Yellow.
I guess I’ll go with the cop-out answer of sorts and say they should have expanded Kanto. However, I don’t think that Kanto was bland- in fact, I think that it was completely appropriate to limit Kanto since it made the game almost twice the original’s size. Where I wanted it expanded was on its story. Kanto was basically just a challenge area that really didn’t progress much of the plot. I would have liked to have either continued battling more of Team Rocket or to have something about Red prevalent in the plot. I wish that they could have given us the Kanto starters too, just for travelling to Kanto.
I disliked the babies completely.. Would change those for “useful” pokes anyday.
You know what I really liked? The sprites!! Just look at Cloyster or Gengar! They looked a million times better.. the roundness and those shadows! So sexy.
http://publishingdigitalmatters.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/pokemon-gold.gif
They should have kept the shadow like appearance of Gengar.
Haunter’s Teeth from Gen 1.. looked SO much evil and cooler.
If you compare the quality of sprite animations in crystal to sprite animations in Emerald or even Platinum….you realize how lazy gamefreak got after crystal version
I wouldn’t call it lazy, I feel like it’s more likely that they didn’t have time or space in the game to animate all of the sprites so nicely and thought it would be a better use of that time and space to focus on other aspects of those later games.
I started in Emerald so I never had the chance to play this generation or the first (excluding Stadium). Boy, to me the color scheme looks off, but I think that’s due to handheld color limitations.
Comparatively, yeah, they were awesome. I remember being a kid and wondering what in the world Venusaur’s back sprite was. I knew the Pokemon from the show and the book, but so many Pokemon looked garishly distorted in the RBY sprites. Gen II had the first nicely colored sprites and their designs were pretty close to the Pokemon themselves.