httpv://youtube.com/watch?v=wEQEEkENeb4
Enjoy this newly released X & Y Commercial! It doesn’t feature much new except one small instance where we see a horde battle against Orot. But wait, is that a Sudowoodo? Could they be somehow related to each other? Who knows?!
What do you think is the reason for this? Are they just together because they are trees, or is there something we don’t know of yet? Maybe some sort of cross-evolution thing going on? Discuss in the comments!
Mega evolution maybe?
Mega evolution galore horde battle? Somehow doubt it.
Also the different name
In the wild? Don’t think so..
But makes me wonder if Orotto is going to be rock instead of grass..
Yeah I suppose not, unless it’s the counterpart to sudowoodo
Like Magmar and electabuzz etc.
Maybe we’ll have a Tyrogue – Hitmonchan & Hitmonlee kind of thing going on… Probably there will be a common prevolution and we had the same thing with Tauros and Miltank that are also appearing together in horde battles.
You know, I’ve never seen one of this in the wild.. they are always a gift.
*Cough* *Cough* Bonsly
I think it’s probably a habitat thing and just a coincidence. They are probably in a forest area of the game.
I agree. After all, Sudowoodo’s main behaviour is to mimic trees; it would make perfect sense fr it to coexist with tree-like pokemon
Great example.
Note that the Sudowoodo is a female and all the Oorotto are male.
Weird, huh?
As much as I’d like to think this means that they gave something old a normal evolution, I believe it’s probably just because the Trainer is a lumberjack.
The Sudowoodo mix-in probably doesn’t mean much, Anybody remember the Tauros horde with a Miltank?
What this does is show us that Oorotto could be a potential rock type, as it took NVE damage.
Rock doesn’t resist Electric, but Grass does.
thank you, I was going to point that out
um, idk what kind of pokemon you play but, the one I play rock is not affected by electric type moves
Ground is immune to Electric.
Rock takes neutral damage from Electric. It doesn’t resist Electric, nor is it immune to Electric.
Grass resists Electric.
psshhh..i dont know what kinda game your playing buddy…..
Ummm rock takes neutral damage from electric (I learned this the hard way when I faced Red in Gold, my level 25 Sudowoodo against his Pikachu…Thunderbolt and dead)
Does that confirm it as a rock type then? If electric isn’t very effective against it but it didn’t resist it either, it sounds pretty rock-like to me.
FOR SOME REASON when i saw Sudowoodo and Oroto I instantly thought Megaevolution!!
Mega Evolution occurs through bonds with the trainers. Highly doubt Treerie is a Mega Evolution seeing as it’s being encountered in a Wild Pokemon Battle.
Did anyone else see the sky battle that was on a bridge, that looked really cool!
No.
Its near the end with yveltal and schorchawk
Yeah it is on a bridge.
I like the name Schorchawk better than Talonflame. Where did you get that?
I sound like a hungry wolf when saying that name.
There ya go!
Only relation is that they are both “tree”s.
One is an immitation tree, fake tree.
One is probably a haunteed tree.
Sudowoodo often lives between trees and pretend to be one of them to avoid being attacked. So we see it between Orot horde.
Now that there’s a tree Pokémon I guess Sudowoodo better get a new schtick, that’s just not going to cut it anymore now that people will be attacking trees regularly. Then again, I suppose it survived through the time when people were always Headbutting trees.
“Everyone move along, nothing to see here…just an Orotto horde”. -Sudowoodo
Pokémon has gotten us so used to the only-one-type-of-caterpillar-in-this-area trend that when we see more than one similar Pokémon living in the same route/dungeon we immediately think “omg are they related?!?!”.
I believe they are only together because they are both forest-dwelling Pokémon and the player is in a forest. That’s it. In the same way I think both Ratatta and Patrat should be able to co-exist in the same area (and Zigzagoon and Sentret), so too should Orot and Sudowoodo, Caterpie AND Wurmple AND Sewaddle, Tailow AND Pidgey AND Starly, etc. etc.
No more of this only-three-species in an area BS – having several similar Pokémon in one area only serves to enrich the world and make it more believable. We don’t only have ONE kind of small bird here in Canada for example, or only ONE type of dog, we have many from all over. Some got here naturally, some were imported or migrated from other countries, etc., but the diversity makes nature more interesting and engaging. I can count seven different types of small birds that i see daily here, and i think the same is true for many common animals. Pokémon could benefit from including characters from ALL regions in a given area, and I think this commercial shows they finally understand that. 🙂
Touché Master Marceau. Touché.
I know it’s not realistic, but imagine that you wanted to catch, say, a Fletchling and they’re available on the first route. If it was swarming with every bird and every rodent from every generation, you’d be there forever trying to find the one you want, unless Game Freak came up with a system in which you could “attract” a certain species… And imagine surfing, you wouldn’t want ALL the water pokémon appearing, or else it would be practically impossible to find the pokémon you wanted in the first place. But I get your point, it would be much more realistic if it were like that.
Well, at least Shiny hunters are happier now, 5 pokemon at once, 5 chances at once 😛
I would rather understand how a gang of Orots* allowed a lone Sudowoodo to join their ranks when dealing with you.. Even if they are roaming the same area, it makes more sense that they fight themselves and then you.. than to have 4 pokemon of the same species and 1 “random-area-dwelling-poke”. To me, it would make more sense to have the same species together, or just 5 random poke-friends xD Or a more male-female one, with Bulls and Cows (as we have seen and makes sense, one woman for all 4 males *shrugs* ). But yeah, I see the point.. It’s simply not logical to reach that conclusion from this.
NOTE: Also contemplate that they haven’t noticed that Sudowoodo is not one of them, haha.
And if you allow me, master Marceau.. it’s a waste of brain power to spin it further 😛
I think a good english name for oorotto would be Horroot (Horror+root)
Assuming its Grass/Ghost
or something even more simplified like “Hauntree” (Haunt + Tree), I know it sounds similar to Haunter but Pancham also sounds similar to the Pan monkeys.
Hmm..Hauntree…I think that would be too stereotypical a name for it though…..
TALONFLAME
GOGOAT
Is no one noticing the awesome building at 0:16. The increase in scale and detail in X and Y is going to be amazing.
I too like the camera angles that have been shown in X and Y!
Well i definitely think Oorotto is not an evolution of Sudowoodo… however if they are related (which i don’t think they are) then my best guess is that Oorotto is a branch evolution from Bonsly…perhaps evolved through exposure to a cursed stone or something similar. Or perhaps there is a pokemon that can influence evolutions by haunting them and Bonsly evolves into Oorotto rather than sudowoodo when this pokemon is in your party?
As a fan of Bonsly, I would not be opposed to this. <3
Yes i like Bonsly too <3… i mean this is just a theory but with the whole DNA theme going on i think its not too far a stretch to think that some mutations or alterations in pokemon forms might be taking place. I mean there is that heavy rumour that some moves might be getting dual types and that in itself is a mutation like evolution.
Haha branched
I find it very hard to believe that Sylveon could be the only REAL evolution to another Pokemon from a different Generation. Even numbered Generations have always given us something that relates older Pokemon to new things; Gen II gave us Pre-Evolutions with a few Evolutions, Gen IV gave us Evolutions with a few Pre-Evolutions, so Gen VI should give us Mega Evolutions with some Pre-Evolutions and Evolutions. As we’ve seen with Tyrogue, it is not impossible for them to link two separate Pokemon with a common Pre-Evolution, so I am a firm believer that a new Pre-Evolution may link Tauros and Miltank together. Furthermore I believe the same thing could happen to Sawk and Throh. Now, my hopes that Orott as a Sudowoodo Evolution have resurfaced. Yes, they could just be related by habitat, but I seriously hope Sudowoodo gets a proper Evolution. It would make catching them so much more worth it.
as much as i want more evolutions this gen. can u explain Wynaut and Gen III thing?
Wynaut and Azurill I’m pretty sure were just to get hype up for Gen III, as both appeared in Gen II (I think Azurill did, not real sure. I know Wynaut did, though, in the Pikachu Short for Pokemon: Heroes).
when will they leak the coro coro scans?
Next week, around the 9th – 11th.
more like you should expect them around the 11-13 unless corocoro comes out early like it has the past two months
I think it is supposed to, although I’m not sure.
i have not heard anything but cause the 15th is on a Sunday we will get the leaks before Saturday
CoroCoro Comes official at the 15th. This month it isn’t earlier, sadly ^^
that’s what i thought but since corocoro comes out on sunday we will get it before the weekend
Ah, okay. Thanks for clearing that up for me. 🙂
I’m calling it now, Sudowoodo the first Rock/Fairy!!! Oorotto the first Grass/Ghost.
When it happens look back on this comment and applaud me.
agreed. And if somehow Oorotto is Sudowoodo’s Evo at least it shoud gain either grass or ghost typing!!
Sudowoodo doesn’t even look Fairy Type, as opposed to the other Fairy Types we have so far who do.
yea but we need a fairy type that does not look Fairy Type besides xreneas
tell me… does Marril and Snubbull look fairy type to you? I rest my case. A fairy doesnt have to look pink, a fairy embodies something that deals with illusion, mimicry, supernatural powers. Sudowoodo is not a tree so what else would it be? Its def a rock fairy.
Yes, they do to look like Fairy Types. I will admit that Marill was a surprise, but it makes sense for it to be Fairy so they can fix Azurill going from Normal to Water upon evolution. Azurill will probably be Normal/Fairy, so when it evolves it becomes Water/Fairy. And we have no idea if Snubbull is Fairy Type. Yes, it’s the Fairy Pokemon, but that doesn’t mean it’s Fairy Type. Not to mention that the Fairy Type doesn’t necessarily have to do with fairies from Fairy Tales. Moon Blast is a Fairy Type move that harnesses power from the moon to create a powerful blast of energy. Fairy can represent extraterrestrial powers just as much as it can supernatural powers.
I’m on board with this; it might give this under appreciated pokemon a few resistances!
Sudowoodo will not be related to Oorotto. It’s evident.
Oorotto is obviously a real tree, a haunted one, but a real tree with real grass sprouting from its body.
Sudowoodo is a rock Pokemon that imitates a tree, it is not actually a tree, but a creature that mimics one. Which leads me to believe Sudowoodo will be dual typed Rock/Fairy this gen. The green balls on its hands are just its round little fingers/nubs, and not actually grass.
We’ve only seen glimpses of Orott so far. We have no idea if it has actual grass or not, they could just be spiked green balls like Sudowoodo and Bonsly have.
They are both as real trees as Pokémon is real.
If a team opens up with Drought Mega Charizard, its a wrap TBH
If Mega Meganium gets “Flower Gift” the online double team scene will be crazy.
as long as mega serperior has contrary i will be happy
I want Mega Serperior to be Grass/Dragon but after what happened with Mega Charizard…
to be honest I’m happy Charizard didn’t get dragon typing, they obviously want him to resist Fairies still.
Gens 1 through 4 people thought Charizard was overrated (cause truly he was), he sucked in the games, but had an amazing design and was awesome on the anime. Now Gen 5 he increased in popularity due to DW ability, and now he’s increasing in even more popularity. The fact that he’s a dragon that can take out both dragons and fairies is amazing and unparalleled.
I want contrary serperior to learn V-create,Close Combat,Super Power,Overheat and Draco Meteor lol
If it was to become Grass/Dragon, I can totally see Draco Meteor being a tutor move for it.
Leaf Storm, Draco Meteor, Hidden Power Fairy, it will have a plethora of good attacks to use
How can it learn Draco Meteor if it only Mega Evolves in battle?
I doubt any Pokemon who gain Dragon type through Mega Evolution will be able to learn Draco Meteor since they’ll only be Dragon Type in battle.
has contrary been released yet for serperior?
nope any you have seen have been hacked
maybe they’re saving it for its mega evolution
i hope with upped speed and special attack
this is the Mega’s of the starters and the types I would like to see:
Charizard – Fire/Flying – Drought
Venasaur – Grass/Poison – Thick Fat
Blastoise – Water – Mega Launcher
Meganium – Grass/Fairy – Flower Gift
Feraligatr – Water/Dragon – Sheer Force
Typhlosion – Fire/Electric – Flame Body
Blaziken – Fire/Fighting – Speed Boost
Swampert – Water/Ground – Water Absorb
Sceptile – Grass/Dragon – Mold Breaker
Infernape – Fire/Fighting – Iron Fist
Torterra – Grass/Ground – Rock Head
Empoleon – Water/Steel – Moxie
Emboar – Fire/Fighting – No Guard
Serperior – Grass/Dragon – Contrary
Samurott – Water/Ice – Ice Body
They should also add “Shell Smash” to the movepools of Blastoise and Samurott.
Fire/Electric Typhlosion? HECK YES.
The world is not ready for Grass/Dragon Sceptile.
I’m in the minority most likely, but I’d prefer if they left the Johto starters mono-typed. The whole theme of Johto was purity.
i am with you, i think they should keep them mono-type as well
Same, and I think they should really exaggerate a volcano on typhlosions back to make the design a bit more interesting than the original- not to say I don’t love him
Yeah But Meganium gets a big pretty pink flower around its head, and most of its moves are healing “fairy” moves. Mega forms aren’t purity that have nothing to do with region or its poke. But I do get your point.
don’t think we need two grass dragon mega pokemon
Yeah I don’t think they will overdo the type addition thing. Secptile seems to be the more logical choice cause other hoenn starter were dual typed plus he learns almost as much moved as charizard that are dragon. Not to mention dragon egg group
Maybe one can be Grass/Rock (Sceptile) or Grass/Electric (Serperior) Serperior WAS supposed to be Grass/Dragon, but they scrapped the idea for having a Dragon-type so early in the game, or something like that.
I would not use Mega Empoleon if Moxie became its Mega ability too.
yeah i agree since its a special attacker
yea that’s why it’s hidden ability is defiant
Defiant raises attack by two stages when one other is lowered.
which makes perfect since Empoleon is a special attacker
I’m not understanding your logic…. Lol. Do you mean when using it as an attacker? If it is I understand.
my first comment was meant has sarcasm ‘yea that’s why it’s hidden ability is defiant’ cause giving mega empoleon moxie does not make snice cause it’s highest attack is it’s Sp-attack even though it’s hidden ability is defiant
Lol. Okay. I’m not good with sarcasm. I usually, if not always, take it literally. Sorry.
it’s ok, it’s easy to misunderstand over the internet
Mega Empoleon needs to have the storm drain ability
I could see that.
yea give it an ability that’s helps it
Hm… I like that ability, however unless you really foresee the opponents next move, its somewhat difficult to use. I use Empoleon a lot so I am not opposed to that.
unless you pair it with Gliscor a pokemon that is only weak to water and ice
Or a fire type. I did that with my Torkoal and Arcanine and pissed a friend off! Omg! We need Mega Torkoal! Fire and Rock type!
Why mole breaker on sceptile? It seems like a pretty weak ability compared to the other Megas
should give it ether poison heal or technician
Technician would be lovely! Would definately work with Sceptile.
Would like to see Multiscale or speed boost. Sceptile my fav starter needs the boost
Especially with fury cutter
Swampert should get Sap Sipper – no weaknesses!
GOD THAT WOULD BE AMAZING
I think Samurott should be Water/Fighting, water/ice seems a bit random but hey that’s just my thinking process of it 😛
I see Typhlosion as either as Fire/Dark or Fire/Ground with a new ability or Filter and Feraligator as Water/Dark.
fire dark for typhlosion
Meganium – Grass – Regenerator
Feraligatr – Water – Sheer Force
Typhlosion – Fire – Shadow Tag
Blaziken – Fire/Fighting – Speed Boost
Swampert – Water/Ground – Sip Sapper
Sceptile – Grass/Dragon – Adaptability
Infernape – Fire/Fighting – Technician
Torterra – Grass/Ground – Solid Rock
Empoleon – Water/Steel – Analytic
Emboar – Fire/Fighting – Rock Head
Serperior – Grass/Dragon – Contrary
Samurott – Water – Multiscale
I rather see a Moxie Sceptile.. giving it a possible dual set.
Flower Gift Meganium just opened my mind to awesomeness..
Does anybody already know about Masuda’s appearance for this week’s Pokémon Smash?
Wow. They show Oorotto again! Reveal him already Nintendo!
Could be in corocoro, but the way news has been released this gen, I wouldn’t put my money on it
And also that alpaca pokemon. I’m in despair from not knowing anything about them!
I bet that’s that pokemon we saw in the preview of Pokémon X and Y anime, when Ash steps out of the plane.
This will sound incredibly farfetched but the thought just occurred to me, what if Orot has only been “revealed” in Japanese materials thus far because it’s a Japan-exclusive Pokemon? Think about it: If the games are released globally on the same day and they’re making a huge deal about the online trading element, the only logical way to make the region-locked games have a bit of exclusivity would be to have specific Pokemon available only in the real world region the game is being played in.
I will admit that this is extraordinarily unlikely but they seem to be squeezing the 3DS for every bit of functionality they can. The gyroscopic evolution of Inkay, the 3D effects and other elements are already known to be implemented. Would it really be that strange to utilize the region-lock as part of gameplay?
i idea is really out there and it has yet to be confirmed if inkay does gyroscopic evolution
I don’t really see that happening, it’d be interesting but for Pokedex compeletionists like myself I wouldn’t like that too much :/
I like the idea, but I really don’t see it happening. A more realistic (yet still not too likely) thing they could do is put region-specific differences on a few Pokémon, which would also be fun. A Western hemisphere Shellos, yayz!
I think that’s the same case of Tauros’ horde… There is a Miltank in it. They’re not related trough evolution lines, but relate by the fact that both are “cows”!
Wow they’re small, thanks to having Sudowoodo there we can tell they’re not giants like I thought they’d be.
I figured that they would be mistaken as real trees with the roots being the legs, similar to the way with Sudowoodo was caught. Maybe they can be found in the wild as well as being mistaken like foongus and Amoongus.
And they do look like those trees you have to chop down in the earlier games lol.