It’s been a long while, hasn’t it? I’m so busy nowadays, I hardly have the time to think of a good Dae asks! I hope the Summer will be a quieter period, so I can finally have some rest. In unrelated news, I ordered a Sylveon plush. It is set to arrive in three weeks and I’ll give you a picture when it arrives.
And today’s question is also about that mysterious new Eeeveelution called Sylveon. They refuse to give out its type, leaving the fans free to speculate. Some said it was Flying at first, others said it was maybe Dragon and even others said it is just the Normal evolution. But then rumours of it being a total new type started getting ground. Spirit, cosmic, sound, love,… have all been mentioned but Fairy is the one that get mentioned the most. Certain reliable leakers told us that it will indeed be Fairy, and Pokémon Smash did some weird thing where they strongly hinted that it was a new type.
The first part of today’s question is, do you think we need a new type? Is it really needed to fresh things up or are you still under the impression that ‘Red/Blue iz da best. Otherz suxx!!’? The second part is what you think the type will be named, what its weaknesses and the like will be and which Pokémon will get retyped. And for the last part, do you think there are some types that need a small overhaul to balance things out? I know many see Ice as the weakest type defensively and I strongly believe it deserves a buff, but I don’t know how they could achieve that.
And that’s it for today. I know I don’t write a lot of articles anymore, but I try to read all of your comments and make sure to reply to them! So, get commenting!
EDIT: It seems to me like the underlying reasons against Fairy type is something like this: ‘I’m not against a new type but oh no, not fairy nooezzz. I am a male teenager or adult and I don’t want this girly magic for toddlers in my games! Never mind the fact that I’m playing a game for kids anyway. Oh and also forget that fairy is a broad term that originated in old folklore and isn’t always the same like Disney portraits it. But please no fairy!’ Does anyone care to elaborate on this? I still have to see really good reason as to why they won’t do Fairy, other than the fact that ‘I just don’t like/want it’.
~Dae~
Fairy type would be interesting and if it is real then I have good reason to believe that it will be weak against steel type.
I was looking at the plot for the new Thor movie and the bad guy…*spoilers* is Malekith. He is a dark elf and can use fairy magic. However one interesting piece of trivia is:
‘Malekith has a vulnerability to iron, which disrupts or cancels his magical spells.’
This would make sense if fairy will be revealed and it also combines with the Norse mythology of the region
I think “Fey” could be a viable option as opposed to the more feminine Fairy. It’s a common
name for Fairy that fairs a more whimsical and mischievous yet still magical sounding name. Steping outside the world of pokemon, when it comes to Fairies while I do think about the small winged girls, I also think that same pixie could be trying to steal a drop of your blood to work magiks that will cause you to turn into a frog. I like to look into the deeper mythology of fairies derived from scottish folklore the Seelie and Unseelie courts.
Seelie are light hearted and playful yet still wary of humans and quick to be insulted. Most commonly associated with summer, these are the pixie types that it seems people are uncomfortable with having in pokemon. Your Tinkerbelles and the 3 fairy sisters from Sleeping beauty. But also some very cool characters:
* The Lady of the Lake: gave King Arthur his sword Excalibur is often considered a fairy like entity most likely of the Seelie court.
* Oberon, Titania and Puck: shakespeare’s Midsummer Night’s Dream. Playful yet dangerous, and tricky.
*Saint Nicholas: the Jolly old elf could easily fit into the Seelie court. (Delibird re-type perhaps? lol)
*Celty: from Durarara!!
Yet, there’s also the Unseelie court to consider, The dark and malevolent side of the fae. These fairies are more likely to kidnap a child to keep as a pet. Stories that used to be told to keep children in line. Terrible goblins and trolls guarding bridges.
* Morgan Le Fey: villain to Merlin and King Arthur.
* Maleficent: the evil fairy from sleeping beauty.
* Baba Yaga: an often evil Slavic witch.
*Krampus: a beast like creature who would steal bad children, the opposite Evil Santa Clause.
*Cait Sith: The King of Cats who is often times believed to steal souls from unburied corpses.
If you want some good examples of literature of why fairies are awesome, check out the Dresden Files, an urban fantasy series often dealing in fairies, vampires and other wizardly things. It’s the series that made me realize how awesome fairies can be.
After reading the books I opened my eyes to how broad the fairy world could be and a lot of mythology in general can be wedged into the fairy category. From Pan and fauns in greek/roman mythology to Kappa and elemental spirits in Japan. I’ve got high hopes fairy will be the next pokemon type, with a healthy dose of New Fairy pokemon and re-typing of older ones.
Isn’t it so uncreative to name all mythological things fairy type? I think this is not acceptable in Pokemon, there should be more than that. It’s not broad as you’ve mentioned, it is bounded.
The point is that typically many creatures in mythology are a type of fae, rather than just the simple Disney fairies like Tinkerbell. “Fae” typically refers to creatures of a mythical origin, yes, but they pretty much all have some similar weaknesses – cold iron, for example. Quoting the Wikipedia page on “fairies”, as opposed to common modern portrayals of fairies like Disney ones, “they originally were depicted quite differently: tall, radiant, angelic beings or short, wizened trolls being two of the commonly mentioned forms”.
They can do so much with the name Fairy, not just mythological creatures. I think bringing up only mythological creatures is limiting.
I agree. Id like to see some mythical references in the new pokes, but however they choose to do it is ok with me
I’m kind of confused by your post. Do you think fairy should be limited to only the stereotypical fairy or be boundless and all consuming? By limiting a new fairy-type to only Pixie style fairies would be far too binding. While the game is designed around categorizing creatures based on stylistic and physical attributes, strengths and weaknesses that they share with one another, but it’s not always limited by that. Prime example is the old Charizard who is Fire/Flying and not dragon although he looks very much like a dragon.
At the same time I don’t think every mythical creature should be a fairy type or the game would be over run with them. There are tons of pokemon based on mythological creatures, just off hand I can think of at least 4 from gen 1 alone: Ninetails is a Japanese Kyuubi, Rapidash is a unicorn, and Lapras is commonly related to the Loch Ness Monster. And of course the obvious Clefairy.
If it were too broad it would end up being a type for every pokemon. Dragons are mythical creatures, they shouldn’t be fairy-type (although a Dragon/Fairy would be pretty awesome.) Fey envelop many different roles in folklore. Undead like a Banshee, who’s name roots to “fairy woman”. Also Elemental based fairies like sylphs which are spirits of air (as in Slypheon) and lots more.
I have faith that nintendo and gamefreak can manage this in a responsible way, and hopefully do some balancing actions along the way to bring back some old favorites and introduce some new ones.They handled steel and dark well (though I still think dark is a little underwhelming but thats just a personal opinion.) I imagine they can do the same with Fairy.
Mythology is simply a gateway to get a basis for the type in the most direct way. I’d be surprised see not them bend the stereotype to fit the type into something different as well. Like The Great Prophet said the point of my original post was to broaden the idea of fairy, not constrict it. But theres got to be limits there as well.
“They can do so much with the name Fairy, not just mythological
creatures. I think bringing up only mythological creatures is limiting.” that’s what I meant.
Oh yeah I love those books. But this isn’t a book fan club, so ill talk about pokemon. I really agree with all u said, and I don’t really care what new type we get as long as we get one. I also only really care that poison gets boosted a little, so I can use my skuntank and crobat More often.
Fairy Type
Weaknesses: Poison, Steel, Fire, and Psychic.
Strong against: Ice, Dark, Fighting,and Dragon
Average Stats Overall:
HP: 90.32
Attack: 63.33
Sp. Attack: 99.00
Defense: 75.00
Sp. Defense: 35.05
Speed: 100.05
Total: 462.75
Average Stats Fully Evolved:
HP: 120.00
Attack: 70.55
Sp. Attack: 130.55
Defense: 90.00
Sp. Defense: 55.35
Speed: 150.85
Total: 617.3
Average stat of above 600 fully evolved? Only the pseudo-legendaries get to have a base stat of 600 and legendary are only slightly above that.
That’s true but their fully evolved stats should go no lower than 550 because Dragon types are beasts when it comes to Attack, and Sp. Attack. I would think somewhere on the line of Fairy types excelling act Attack, Sp. Attack, Speed, and Defense XD.
PS: Still too much?
In the basic yore of Mythology, and folklore, fairies tend to be finicky and naughty creatures depicting that Sylveon fits any of those categories. Fairies also possess a plethora of magical abilities let be illusions, controlling an object or a person, telekinesis, and etc. Fairies are also have quite the defense for such little creatures unless the fairy possess the ability to grow to an immeasurable size.
Many new moves could be made out of the plethora of magical abilities fairies can do.
– A move that let’s you control an opponents Pokemon for a certain amount of turns
– A move where you cast illusions
– A move that stimulates your opponent from letting their Pokemon attack
– A move that morphs the Fairy type Pokemon to any Pokemon
– A move that casts ribbons around the opponent binding them so that they can’t attack while still damaging them
– A move that heals your party every turn
– A move that casts celestial bodies to attack the opponent (stars, meteorites, etc.)
– A move where you change the weather, battlefield, or even teleports you somewhere else
See the possibilities? Now for the one Pokemon design I really want
– Athena based Pokemon, three staged , Fairy/Steel
A human shaped Pokemon with six wings, and a helmet like a knights with an arrow in the middle going all the way from the Pokemon head to neck. A long, white robe with golden markings and a long, golden staff emitting from the Pokemon hands.
http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2009/354/3/a/Carlot_the_Angel_by_RenePolumorfous.jpg (Like this)
You have just described Angemon, but I wouldn’t mind that for a Pokemon design. 🙂
I guess so 😀
Just a small thing I had just thought of before I even got to the article which supports the new type, Fairy or otherwise: Gen V was like a new beginning to the series in a way. Obviously not like a complete overhaul, but in many ways treated as a fresh start, like Gen I 2.0. So Gen VI would be a sort of second Gen II, where we did get two new types. So this kind of restart to the cycle might be another strong backing to us getting a new type. Fairy might be good, or perhaps something like Mythical to settle those unnerved by Fairy even though it would be the same thing. I dunno, just my thoughts.
(Good chance this has been brought up before, maybe even in an earlier comment here. I don’t feel like checking, so whatever.)
As long as I get my fairy armadillo and star-nosed mole (fairy-type), I’ll be happy with the typing!
they should call it light the opposite of dark that would make the most sense
I can’t wait until this is disproving.