Chinese Riddler Claims New Z-Ring Secrets to be Revealed SOON

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The mysterious Chinese leaker is at it again, teasing fans with new information that will be revealed soon about the upcoming games Pokémon Sun & Moon. Known for showing various “riddles” which showed hints at Solgaleo, Mimikyu and others, the user has built a reputation for being reliable, but ambiguous, source of information.

This time, they have posted about the Z-Ring which is crucial for pulling off powerful Z-Moves in the new game. It seems that there is something that we have not yet learned about the devices and the leaker says it may relate to a certain kanji (Chinese symbol). They have also stated that the information will come to light VERY SOON.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnbjhQBK4dg

Cresselia, the Smogon user we’ve been working with since the first set of Chinese rumors, breaks it down in her video above, but the symbol in question could be 全 (zen) which means “all” or “entire”. You can see that the shape made by the Z-Ring does resemble the kanji and in Japanese the phrase “zenryoku waza” has been used to describe Z-Moves and probably is even the reason why they are called “Z”-Moves in the first place.

The above character discussion is not something new, but could be related tangentially to what the leaker is hinting at. Hopefully they’re right about the soon part and we’ll get to see some new information about the games before next Tuesday when the next scheduled Sun & Moon trailer/site update will go live.

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484 thoughts on “Chinese Riddler Claims New Z-Ring Secrets to be Revealed SOON”

  4. Well, I guess that he teases for new information today… but at same time he maybe refer to October 4th ne bunch of information, when I really dislike – but I think – that could be an “Z Form” to certain Pokémon like the starters and Rockruff.

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    • Plot twist: There are no starter evolutions. Litten, Popplio and Rowlet’s stats increase gradually with each 10 levels to ensure they end up just as strong as regular starter evolutions.

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    • Starter evos are always a corocoro thing, so I’d expect them to be revealed there first. We’ll probably see them in a trailer mid-october.

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    • Usually we don’t see the starter evolutions until after the game releases, we might not be use to that because Pokemon hasn’t done many worldwide launches. If you recall, leakers had to reveal the starter evos in X&Y because we did not see them until after launch. In other words, we might not even see the evos until November.

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  15. I’m glad you made the distinction between what was said as far as when he meant the info was coming. Some people translated the sentence as if he meant the info was coming today and some translated it as if he just meant soon like the article says. It’s the kind of thing that could get annoying as even though the Riddler is incredibly reliable at this point if someone translates or interprets what he’s saying wrong then it could turn into a very annoying he’s Real!/he’s Fake argument. ANYWAY I do think that the Z forms we’ve all been expecting could coming very soon, whether it be on the 4th or sooner. As far as it happening sooner, the only time I think we could possibly get something interesting is during the interviews that Masuda and Ohmori are doing in London. Does anyone know anything about those? They haven’t happened yet have they?

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  20. I still like fennekin line more than frokie but the anime has made new like greninja more than I did when I first saw it, so I wouldn’t mind using a ash greninja for competitive or even on my main team (if I decide not pick poplio again)

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  22. Could the pokemon grayed out in his Alolan Pokedex leak be pokemon getting Z forms ?kind of breaks it because the Gen 6 starters aren’t on there but still. I hope its true because the Johto starters are grayed out and they need some love imo

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      • yea but if thats the case that list would be much larger. theres far more pokemon than that that haven’t appeared. Theres a reason those grayed out ones are there. then again that could be him knowing the Dex and letting us know those are all available in game but some haven’t been shown yet. but why Johto starters? i just hope the Johto starters get some love

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        • That’s kind of what I was trying to imply.
          They’re supposed to be his/her list of “these pokemon are returning but you haven’t seen them in a trailer yet” pokemon.

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  27. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/99bb3c74b70a153d03a4e6dbb0619f58d48c76bfcb308a82b807a45850bd9ca2.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/891e08d6b9691de521682146f4f9dddb332f7a63e10d7d697c7915fe68c80034.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/cc8bbb022f67f89f0fab4b1a8416f2ee9706fe134dd79a4f510b02b10be99820.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7d5de2362765ea3365036d3c70879588510f1c88f296071071affe4bc88b9fbe.jpg
    new pokemon revealed! prototype art

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  34. Seriously? So he “revealed” that a revelation is gonna be revealed soon. Really impressive. I should try this leaker thing as well…
    Ps: is it true they changed back Ash’s art style? Hope so because the new one is too many steps back from what was delivered in xyz.

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  36. So i think they will reveal that some pokes can attain mega form (zen?, perfect form?), after the z move…. ash greninja will be one of the examples….
    And it will be revealed on the 4th

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      • No, in my bed. Ya know? Like a normal person does. Because I have a life to attend to that doesn’t require me to know every last thing about Pokemon. Just because I like to play the game doesn’t mean i’m required to dedicate my life to being informed on everything about it. Its just a videogame, not a lifestyle. So just because Pokemon is the #1 thing you’re focused on, doesn’t mean I live under a rock, tbh its probably the other way around. I don’t even really play videogames anymore, so what makes you think i’m gonna go out my way and watch anime, and look at every news feed to see what Ash Greninja is. So instead of answering the question, you’d rather say some dumb shii instead. Nice???

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    • So judging by your below reply, you dont watch the anime series?

      Ash-Greninja is a unique transformation, where Ash’s Greninja takes on the appearance of Ash and gains an immense boost in both speed and power. It actually surpasses most Mega Evolved Pokemon.

      And no, it is not a morph. Its a fusion of the mind. Both Ash and his Greninja share the same heartbeat and their minds are synchronized. So when Greninja takes damage, Ash feels that pain too

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  44. I really hope this Z move stuff doesn’t go more into depth. Maybe its just that you can mega evolve with it or something but other than that please game freak don’t give us another synchro thing or something.

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  45. I don’t know if you guys watch the theory videos online like Lockstin and Game Theory, but based on what they are saying.. Next Gen will Likely have Another new form of evolution. Not to mention the possibility of Synchro this Gen.
    They’ve all but said that this is a Dimension with Mega evolution but the Pokemon in the Dimension we started in Also have learned to Evolve in new way on their own without it.
    Hinted in the Pokemon Break cards. So I can’t wait for that! 😛
    Though part of me IS thinking this is getting to be a little much .. hehe

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        • Yeh, that’s probably not allowed either, just GF has no clue about it so it hasn’t been shut down…or it’s not as troublesome to the Pokemon brand as a fan game.

          Honestly I understand GF wanting to protect their intellectual property. They own Pokemon so can allow and disallow whatever they want. It’s how the law works, and honestly if I had created something like Pokemon you can be damned sure I would do everything in my power to protect it from being exploited.

          Just my opinion on the matter.

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          • Everyone has personal views on the matter. Some people don’t mind kids jumping into their gardens to retrieve their footballs e.t.c. Others simply won’t allow it.
            In most cases laws like this hold such that people will only be prosecuted if the company decides to press charges. So the power lies with the company itself. Sega and Valve are Ok with it, Nintendo isn’t. It’s really as simple as that.

          • Personally I don’t feel it hurts their image all that much. How many fans are their of Pokemon? and how many are aware of or have played any of the fan games?

          • laws can be weird. There this case that these people founded a coffee shop called dumb starbucks, everything on the menu was similar to starbucks but starbucks could not do anything about it because there is law that says permits them to do that

          • Yeh, there are definitely loopholes people can exploit, and some ridiculous things that I’ve heard of in the news.
            There was an article where the creators of No Mans Sky had to get to permission from Sky TV to use the word ‘Sky’ in their title.

    • I think it comes down to people not knowing how to translate what he said. He could have meant “tomorrow” or he could have just meant really soon. Hard to say, but of we don’t get something before Friday I’d say that he meant it abiut the announcement on Tuesday

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  60. I’m a little worried Ash Greninja will have great KO move but lose protean. If they handle this right.. it will likely be the most used give away Pokemon

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  61. Why is it that I feel like everyone I leave, a, how do I put this, weird conversation happens. xD
    Anyway, people here seem to post teams for their playthrough a lot, so here’s my team in SS. I just beat Morty.
    – Quilava Lv. 23
    – Slowpoke Lv. 21
    – Aipom Lv. 22
    – Golbat Lv. 23

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    • Not really. People just couldn’t get a handle on how to interpret the translations. Chinese is a difficult language and on top of that with the different versions of it,use of slang, and the Riddler being over all mysterious there was really no clear answer. What he said COULD have meant that we’d get info yesterday OR it could have just meant the info he was hinting at was coming soon. I’d bet that that he meant soon rather than a specific day. Probably on the fourth we’ll get whatever he was talking about.

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