While many of us have enjoyed our foray back into Alola in Pokémon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon on the Nintendo 3DS which was released just days ago, not all fans have been happy with their purchase. Japanese gamers who expected more than an end-game scenario and expanded regional Pokédex have taken to Amazon to vent their feelings.
Over 50% of the games’ ratings are currently one–star with many reviewers complaining about the overt similarity between the new releases and the original titles Pokémon Sun & Moon. Games, anime and manga are often taken very seriously by Japanese fans (and not just when there are micro-transactions involved) and missteps by publishers and designers can sometimes prove disastrous. We will monitor the situation and watch if GameFreak offers commentary or an apology (the latter is a very common step to take by Japanese companies).
English-speaking players have also used Amazon to voice their frustrations, but on the US site Pokémon Ultra Sun remains fairly well rated with half of players giving it 5 out of 5 stars.
What is your rating for it so far? Tell us down below and include where you are in the game!
I havent been able to play much since i got it Friday night but I will say its already different than SM especially with how early URS is introduced to the players (am i the only one who’s a fan of their background music). The battles run smoother and I love the new battle option screen. I cant say on how much has changed but from what I have played its definitely has a better feel than SM did
I like the theme and they show up near instantly
I wasnt expecting them as early as before the festival. The beginning cut scene obviously we knew about since it was shown but i wasnt expecting them to pop up til we get around to the AF
I wanna weigh in here…
I love pokemon, I really do… But they did everything in the game to try to make me despise it, it was an uphill battle with boredom Until you get around to fighting necrozma at the peak of your respective altar, then it went from boring to ok. The ultra wormhole is honestly better after you swap controls to circle pad, gyro sucks in this use, even afterwards it’s still not easy to control… Ultra Necrozma was stupid hard, moreso than it should have been imo, and even after becoming champion, i still felt underwhelmed, and don’t even get me started on episode RR…
The point stands that they honestly put zero to minimal effort into the games and it shows, I agree B2W2 were better than this, by a long shot…
I’m a little bored too, I admit. Not hatin’, but a little bored.
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So this open world Pokemon Switch game rumor leaves me with doubts. I don’t doubt the guy may have connections and I certainly don’t doubt Nintendo is pressuring GF to make a game that is on a much grander scale to keep up with BOTW and Odyssey. Fully open world tho? I’m not sure I see it. Not yet anyway. They’re on the right track I think, but they’re not there yet. I think what’s best for Pokemon on the Switch is a Mario Odyssey style sandbox structure. They can make each area separate and manageable, but also be able to dabble in some open worldness. Odyssey while not really open world has open world qualities. Each individual world allows you to move around freely for the most part. This is what I think GF should strive for. Then maybe in gen 9 they can take what they’ve learned from gen 8 and string together the different open areas to make a full open world. By taking these steps they can make a solid game that feels complete. My one fear for an open world Pokemon game is that they sacrifice the story just to make the gameplay open world. At which point the only objective is to collect the 8 badges and then you’re done…..I think they need to practice making bigger small areas first and then can move onto creating a vast land.
That’s literally what was said, wasn’t it? Open world esque drawing similarities from Mario Odyssey?
Was it? I didn’t actually see what they said directly. Only heard that the rumor was Nintendo pressuring GF to make a full open world game more like BOTW. If it’s more like Odyssey then maybe I can see it.
” Damiani said that he heard from trusted sources that due to the success of Breath of the Wild and positive reaction to Odyssey that Gamefreak might being doing something “disruptive” like those two.”
What do they mean by “disruptive” Is there another meaning other than the typical one?
I think it means doing something new and fresh, like BotW and SMO have done for their franchises.
Hmmm I guess that makes sense. I have no doubt that the Switch game will be different in some way. I just don’t see them jumping straight into full open world. Again maybe more like Odyssey, but we shall see. Even that may be a bit over their heads.
A full scale open world Pokemon game is literally impossible unless technology makes a jump 10+ years
How do you figure that? Zelda literally had a full open world game this year. It would be the same premise only maybe no jumping and climbing. It’s more a matter of whether GF is up to the challenge.
I think it’s more because of the number of 3D models and Pokemon information the system will have to load causing it to lag hugely, which are greatly reduced between loading screens
I would assume the battles would still be turn based and how they are now. It would just be the overall gameplay that would be open world.
… no?
Yes? A full scale open world game with +800 animated 3D models is not even possible on the latest gaming PC lol
This is why you don’t load all the models at once.
So is it always dusk in both US and UM?
No?
Why was I playing both UM and SM after 9 pm and it was dusk? Not night nor day. And then I’m playing UM right now (6:45 am) and it’s orange skies again.
UM is 12 hours removed from US. Just like SM. So when you play in the evening (in irl) US will also be evening and UM will be early morning. Dawn and dusk look very similar in some of their phases in the games I think. I was playing UM last night and as it transitioned from night to day it was similar to how it looked when turning from day to night. either that or one of your 3ds’s (if you’re using more than one at a time?) has it’s clock off.
I changed my consoles to reflect the time change. And I swear it was after 9 pm and both US and UM it wasn’t day or night in either. Maybe I’ll try again after 7 and see
I have no idea. They should display opposite times of the day.
KOMMO-OOOOOOOOOOOOO https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/045be134ce2dde9962ba9e78eacd271e725d5832a6431e4595e81146c2ea7a95.jpg
Hakamo-o fought tooth and scale to rescue the stolen Yungoos, for it knows the pain fear and sadness of being taken from its home. Rain poured heavily in the streets of Po Town and Guzma waited atop his throne watching the Scaly Pokemon obliterate grunt after grunt looking for the Yungoos. As we busted our way up the mansion he waited eagerly to fight. With his menacing ace Golisopod he attacked relentlessly, these armored warriors exchanged blow after blow neither giving an inch. Suddenly the Golisopod struck Hakamo-o with a powerful Slash attack nearly knocking him out with a crit, the impact cost him a few scales. Wounded and battered Golisopod seized the moment and clasped his claws around him and started draining his energy with leech life! Biting through his exposed flesh he shrieks in pain as he had his power drained
immobilized by the Hard Scaled Pokemon’s six arms all Hakamo-o could do was struggle and squirm. Feeling powerless and weak Hakamo-o thought this was the end. But for some reason the pain started to trigger a realization, this battle was not to prove he was stronger, but to protect those in need! That Yungoos was taken from its home and deep down in his heart he burned with righteous indignation!!!
A gleam sparked in his eyes as he glared right into Golisopod and roared as he began to evolve! The power of evolution liberated from the Leech Life and transformed into the powerful Kommo-o! His scales shined brightly as he readied himself and unleashed the full power from within Clanging Scales!!! The powerful shockwave rattled and pierced through Golisopod’s great armor weakening it to preform one final Sky Uppercut sending it flying and winning the battle.
Still ugly tbh.
Shut up
Excellent writeup of your epic tale. Congratulations, you two!
Does anyone know the levels of the Totem sized Pokemon? I want to know if I should trade over this egg I have of one of the species or if I should just wait and use the Totem Pokemon
20
25
30
35
40
50
Thanks fam that does me a great deal of help.
yw:3
Also depends if you want egg moves, a certain ball etc.
For this mon I’m not too picky honestly. It’s Araquanid
Seems it has a cult following
The new goomy?
It’s really such a good design It and it’s preevolution
Any helpful Pokémon to get me through that Poplio at the trainers school? Feel like the level is a bit high and I’d have to hit a grind already.
Poison Touch Alolan Grimer?
Heyy I replied to your reply on the other article. Anyhow, it would be great if we could do the trade now. Also you’ll have to kinda walk me through it since I’ve never traded besides wonder trade. Annnnd if you have a spare kelpsy berry that would be great. I’m planning to plant a host of ev reducing berries in pelago but I just can’t seem to get kelpsy and I accidently got a bunch of attack EVs on my Kadabra.
OR if you could put friendship cafe as your first stall in festival plaza that would be great too. Just checking though, if you can help. All I really need atm is the Alakazam.
Hey, sorry I must’ve missed that. I have planted the one Kelpsy I had so I don’t have one at the moment. FC: 0748 – 2744 – 4660 IGN: James
Mine is 3497 – 3624 – 9952
Name is Xerneas
OK, coming online now.
So do I just run around till I find you? :/
If you are online then I should see you on the link trade option. Is your character name Xerneas?
Nope it’s Kala. I initiated with you
Ignore that, it’s fine!
OK
Thanks a ton! I’m just starting to get internet on my 3DS which is why I’m so new to online features and never bred competitive Pokemon. Thanks again!
That’s OK, glad to be of help 🙂
Is the game really that much harder?
Sounds like a nice touch if so.
It’s not hard, just annoying.
Zorua + something that resists water (I don’t think magnemite is available yet, so maybe wingull by Kukui’s lab). If not then you can hope Zorua will live a hit.
The strategy I used was with Zorua and Wingull. Zorua leads with it’s illusion transforming it into Wingull. Have Zorua spam leer as many times as possible. Go from there.
Zorua dies in two turns…
Even with illusion activated as a water resist?
That’s not how illusion works. It doesn’t change typing. It’s still dark Type and keeps the weaknesses and resistances
I know how illusion works. It’s to trick the AI into not using water gun
Lol… I have always noticed.. they disable the comment section under Every video on Pokemon’s official JP YouTube channel. At least under Every game related video. Has anyone else noticed this??
Dang.. the Japs are Far harder to please, and they know this.
I can’t say I blame them.. having so much be the Exact same does sound quite unacceptable.
Though I’ve yet to play.
I feel bad for the poor team of new guys who created this….. Oh well..
I guess they’ll never be trusted alone again..
That’s how that cookie crumbles ?
Oh. And this pretty much guarantees Pokemon Switch will come out sooner than expected.. not saying when.. but sooner than expected by many.
And it will likely be very good to protect the franchise… How business works
Yeah, same with the Like/Dislike counter
Yeah.. kinda sad.. can’t please their home country
It’s normal for corporate videos, comments can be really shitty and you don’t want to associate your product with them.
I understand.. still sad tho
I’ve been playing UltraSun, but I feel like I’m floundering a bit. I’m trying to get attached to my pokemon, but some of the ones I want to use I’ll catch later in the game (Togedemaru, Turtonator). I wasn’t expecting the game to be straight-up copy-pasted from Sun and Moon so far. Only difference is less Team Skull and more Daft Punk. I played through SunMoon 4 times in the past year: USUM had better get more different pretty soon.
I just got to the second island because I keep getting distracted playing with the friendly pokemon by the road, looking for stickers, catching ones to fill the dex, backtracking, and Mantine Surf. That minigame ROCKS, as does Alola Photo Club (reminds me of those goofy but fun XY PR Videos).
I *am* enjoying finding new pokedex additions without prior knowledge of them. Like the first time I used the Poke Finder camera, what appeared but a majestic specimen of my beloved Dunsparce? I freaked out: I had no idea it was in the dex. I caught a very aggressive one, and though I won’t use him for too long this playthrough. After all, I beat Sun with just a Dunsparce early this year; I want to use different ‘mons.
For my starter, I picked a Litten that I named Whiskers. I haven’t been feeling too creative lately. He’s got a gentle nature and an *abysmal* defense stat. Been using my Mantine Surf to get Irons and try to buff him up. I think he can learn Bulk Up, so whenever I find that, I’ll probably teach it to him.
Haven’t gotten special Rockruff yet, but I’m probably not going to use him this time around, or any Lycanroc. I used one 3 of the 4 times I’ve played. So he’s going in the bank. If it lets me, I can even restart UltraMoon a few times and stock up.
So… does it get significantly different after the first island, or will I continue to be sorta disappointed? Also, do we get a national dex at the end?
Man, I’m long-winded.
It will get even worse with the sameyness.
What were they thinking…
I’m guessing most time has been spent on the new games
If I’m really disappointed with US, I don’t think I’ve opened my copy of UM yet and I could probably return it.
I have bank and multiples of most Legendaries, and I can trade like a boss.
If you don’t want it and you can’t return it, I’ll gladly take it off your hands ?
Come by and give me $40 cash; it’s sealed in shrink wrap.
So glad I never finished the first games past finding the dragon Z Crystal ?
Did you by any chance choose Popplio and catch Stufful? If so you literally have all, but my one island scanned team member from Moon (Being Reuniclus)
No, I picked Litten and only just made it to 2nd island. I mean floundering in motivation and bonding with my pokemon and deciding who to use, and so on.
I’m really glad people are upset by these games. I mean not for the people playing, I’m with you, we kinda got cheated, but it means that Game Freak might learn they can stop doing this sh*t
This. I like these games individually but for what they are, they shouldn’t of existed. This is what we should’ve gotten last year, or more effort put into them even if it meant delaying release.
Or they should’ve made this a 3rd version and announce that they’re sorry this gen was kinda shorter, but they’re busy making the Switch Game
One version would’ve been sufficient. Eclipse, Stars, whatever.
The best option would be Pokemon Prism, in Alchemy (Which Gen 7 is heavilly influenced by) Sun, Moon and Prism together can create god-like powers
Something I thought was hilarious when I found the Flyinium Z: You go grab it and I’m thinking “A totem’s going to attack, oh man!” but out of the cave pops Kahili. She’s like “Let me show you the dance of my people!” does the Z-move poses and disappears back into the nowhere she came from.
This struck me as lazy honestly
It would’ve been better with a totem battle, but what happened was just so absurd I started laughing.
Flyinium Z – Totem Trumbeak
Psychium Z – Totem Oranguru
Icium Z – Totem Alotails/Aloslash (depending on version)
They definitley needed more totems. I know we get the Groundium Z from Hapu (iirc), but i for one would have welcomed Totem Mudsdale or Pallosand.
I really thought that was such a throw away thing. Seems wholly unnecessary haha
Why wasnt ten carret hill a flying totem trial with kahili?? Or the golf course..?
Gotta go: I have to be at church in twenty minutes. I’ll talk to you later, my PokeJungle friends / acquaintances and also Earthen.
How would you feel if Pokémon totally reworked their battle system? Just a hypothetical
I’ve no idea how that would work, but it sounds interesting
Depends on what you mean by rework. How much would it change? What would be different and what would be the same/similar? Any examples?
Imagine xenoblade but with Pokémon kinda
Hmmmm that could be interesting I suppose. More of an mmo style of battling I guess? It would certainly change things dramatically. I also think it’d be something that people would need to get used to. Turn based battling is super easy to latch onto and is far easier to comprehend than the Xenoblade battle style
It would just need to be simplified and given a good tutorial and god knows game freak loves tutorials
This…..is true….they do love their tutorials. And for once it would warrant a tutorial. I’d actually want to watch it as opposed to the tutorial on how to catch Pokemon in UM where I basically put my 3ds down and went to the bathroom as it played out hahaha
I would welcome it, so long as it doesn’t devolve into basic button mashing.
I like the turn based system which is the mainstay of the core series, are you suggesting this be replaced in the core series, or for something separate?
I had the funniest thing happen deers…
Get this: I went to Mcdonalds today to get a mcgriddle, cuz they’re super yummy as a rare treat. I open my bag, and I found Nebby in there:
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How’d you get in there?!
Nebby got in the bag. Are you all happy now?
I love that McDonald’s has my favorite toys again
I only have Solgaleo, Lunala and Pikachu so far
Is there no way to get into the trailer at Pikachu Valley?
Nope
Lame
This day is pretty much ruined
My beloved cherish gazebo whom I’ve spent my summers in relaxing in my own personal area, playing my DS, watching movies on my iPad and even dragged a TV extension cord and Wii out there and played Super Paper Mario from start to finish was destroyed in a windstorm
This I blame entirely on myself for not dismantling it earlier by the end of summer
Oh, that has to be a bummer
I’m sorry about that my friend 🙁
Is there a chance it could be rebuilt or buy a new one? I know how much it meant to you and am really sorry
It’s bent and snapped, and in the world of metalworking snapped metal is dead metal
My dad is pissed off and my mom is gonna try to save it but my last shred of happiness is pretty much gone
Man… being in the exact same spot as I am in Sun in Ultra Moon is kind of surreal. It’s almost weird for some reason lol
What are you guys talking about? the togedemaru totem was so easy. I just leach seeded Toge and Skarmory and had constant health then switched to Salazzle to finish them off
I thought it was kinda tough
How did you have trouble with Ilima the first time, he’s super easy
Underleveled
Why did I try to go to my store on Sunday… It’s a madhouse on the weekends normally but this is the last few shopping days before thanksgiving
Your game store?
Oh right I finished my Stippling and Rythm Design project
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They are Rhino Beetles
Started October 12- finished Today November 19
My thoughts and initial early reactions to USUM will be posted as soon as I get a little deeper into Melemele.
So far so good but I haven’t played enough to give a solid opinion. Will post later on.
Can Super Fang KO me? Only if I have one HP?
Umm……………… I am not 100% sure honestly let me check
Of what I read on Bulbapedia no it rounds up at 1 hp so you’ll survive
YES
I finally beat Sophocles’ Trial! The Totem Battle was soooo hard!
I just took Kiawe’s trial…I was sufficiently challenged to say the least. Totem Marowak and ally Salazzle caught me off guard and Dartrix and Eevee were the only ones who survived. Everyone else fainted in one turn O_O