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SOS battles are a really poorly designed mechanic. I’m trying to chain in order to find a Castform, and so I used an Adrenaline Orb and the opposing Pokemon is at 1 HP due to False Swipe. Even still, I can go 5 to 10 turns of waiting for it to call help, and it just doesn’t. And then, when it finally calls for help, nothing appears! But on the flip side, if I’m not trying to chain, and just trying to catch a Pokemon and did NOT use an Adrenaline Orb, the damn thing will call for help 5 times in a row and help will always be there!
There are some Pokemon that don’t call for help at all, like Mareanie and Sableye, so I’m guessing Castform is also one of them. I got my Castform from vulpix chaining.
I haven’t even encountered Castform yet 🙁
Just chain vulpix/sandshrew and eventually one will show up.. 😐
(eventually)
Oh good luck there, it took me 3 hours to find a castform.
It was so worth it though, they are GOLD on the GTS.
My wimpods and marenies are silver, I guess? 🙂
During story mode I ran into Cubone and wanted to catch it for the Dex. I ended up fighting more than 10 and then just ran, cos it was taking way too long.
I also don’t like the mechanic because there no way to guarantee it, or prevent it. i.e we have little to no control.
Bring back hordes!
Hordes were so simple and well implemented in my opinion.
I’m still not 100% sure how to even approach EV training this gen
* Slap on Pokerus
* Equip Power Item (each gives +8)
* Get into fight with desired EVs.
* Reduce Pokemon to 1HP
* Once SOS call starts, EV gain is doubled. (Stacks with Pokerus, now x4.)
* Faint 8 total pokemon.
* Congrats, you now have 252 EVs.
2 Questions. How much bp is it when i just use power item. How much bp if i just pokerus.
You mean EV? It depends on the Pokémon you faint.
If the pokemon is 1 point
Just power item would be 18 points if S.O.S doubles it. Just Pokérus would be 4 points on S.O.S in that case, I think.
Pokemon EV = 1
Power Item = +8 (gen 7 only, prior was only +4)
Total: 9
Pokerus Doubles EV’s = 18
SOS Doubles EV’s again = 36
SOS battles double EV gain?
The pwer item x2 it
Pokerus**
But it says it “stacks” with Pokerus, which means x2 coming from Pokerus is multiplied by x2 coming from SOS, ends up with x4.
Pokérus is now x4? That’s pretty snazzy.
What about fine tuning EVs, in case I don’t the ful 252 In a single stat?
Well that’s a bit more math involved of course.
Just note that medicines give +10 EVs each up to 100, stat reducing berries give -10 EVs, just the power item gets +8 in a non-SOS fight with a Pokemon that gives other EVs (x2 with Pokerus).
For example, my Moxie Gyarados that I just infected with Pokerus needs 200 attack EVs and 96 Defense EVs.
I take 4 protein, which takes me to 40 Attack EVs. (This is not affected by Pokerus.)
I equip a power bracer while fighting route 1 rattata (1 speed ev) on SOS, and faint 5 Rattata (8x2x2) x 5 = 160 EVs. Now I have 200 Attack EVs and 10 Speed EVs.
Then I equip the power belt, and fight 6 rattata outside of SOS. (8×2) x 6 = 96. Now I have 200 Atk/96 Def/22 Speed EVs.
Basically, Power items let you work in multiples of 16 and medicine+EV reduction berries let you adjust that 10 at a time.
You can prevent by giving the pokemon a status condition
Its typical rng. Dont want something? lets appear a lot and annoy you. Oh now you want it? Lets never appear at all.
400 pikipeks. . .
I know some people have to go into the thousands, but I was honestly expecting it to be so much easier than this…
God, seriously? I never heard of one exceeding 200
Question about Type: Null
Was Silvally ever an intended evolution by the Aether Foundation? Because they mention Type: Null was designed to destroy the UB’s (never mentioning it can evolve), but RKS doesn’t activate until evolution, and Type: Null’s BST is 534, while the UB’s is 570. However, upon evolution, Silvally becomes 570. Silvally’s dex entry then mentions that it’s Gladion who gives the evolution a real name though, so I feel like Type: Null’s whole existence within the games is super unclear.
I thought Sillvally was the one created to fight UBs but it’s power was unstable so they designed the Helmet to dampen it’s powers. Hence Type:Null.
Like you and Zess said, it sounds plausible but it doesn’t add up for me.
This is why it being a evolution irks me slightly. It doesn’t make sense for it to be an evolution. It’s a form change.
Unless you wanna justify it by saying Type:Null must be comfortable with a trainer before removing it’s helmet becomes safe (hence the ‘evolution’ by happiness).
But that’s too much of a stretch.
I agree, as is, Silvally sort of bothers me. They could rectify it by giving Type: Null a form change that isn’t Silvally, but similar. That way Gladion still would be the one to discover Silvally by evolving Type:Null with love instead of helmet removal. They would also probably need to boost Silvally’s BST if they did this though.
I always thought that was silvally was type full but do to them being unable to control it the nerfed it down to type null and only once they figured out how to control it would they remove it’s mask
I feel like that would make sense if Silvally was a form change, but it’s not. Unless the helmet literally causes de-evolution, which is a whole huge detail they never delve into!
Well there are pokedex entry’s stating the slow brother de-evolves into slope if the shellder is removed but I agree that it would be nice for them to out right state it. But then again it’s nicely implied.
I think it would just help if they did a quest or something involving Type:Null and researching its origin and stuff like that
Yeah something like the UB’S quest because the small amount of data regarding type:null isn’t enough and plus there were three we have one Gladion has one so where is the other? Still frozen at the Foundation?
Yeah, where is the other one!!
Also in Lusamine’s main chamber she had a ton of frozen pokemon and if I remember correctly type: null was nowhere to be seen. I also wonder what happened to those pokemon? little unresolved things like this bug me
I think there was a worker who said they unfroze them all
Ok nice lol
probably in the third game we’ll see it
The poor Pyuku…
Can we go back to that room and confirm if they were rescued?
nope
No the teleporter is disabled
My guess is there will be a mystery gift event that will give out a copy of that mon and that plot point is the excuse why that gift can exist.
First Shiny of Gen VII! 😀 I was EV Training my Porygon through SOS-chaining Wingulls and came across this beauty. Good nature, ability (once it evolves), and decent IVs. I might actually use this for a rain team. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e4764f4c1175ce2026d1826b397f2b94d5927bce2ed297f3e5a86d60555d209a.jpg
Lucky…. I’m still trying to SOS chain a sandygast
I have to say I’ve been very lucky with SOS-chaining so far, which makes up for the fact that I still haven’t found a Destiny Knot with my full Pickup team…
What level are your Pickup ‘mon? Higher Level = Higher chance at rarer items.
High 40s-low50s.
Maybe you should try levelling up, I think serebii lists the thresholds for higher chances.
I don’t think serebii has updated for S/M pickup chances
Could be the same as ORAS given the items are the same.
If gen 6 is anything to go off of, you’re gonna need your pickup mon to be at least level 51 to even get the slight chance of finding a destiny knot.
Every video on YouTube I’ve watched of Sun/Moon Pickup tips, the YouTubers have used Pokémon in their 20s. Lots of people in the comments section claimed to find them with even younger Pokémon.
It must’ve changed then.
How have you guys gotten 6IV Dittos this gen?
Several human sacrifices
Only the finest virgins will suffice!
Hmm, not as easy as it was back in XY it seems
Wait, people actually have 6IV Dittos in Sun/Moon? I have a couple 4IV ones through SOS-chaining and thought that was an accomplishment…
Yep, not legal ones tho
Not legit ones. Best you can guarantee for legit ones is 4IVs which I have a couple of also.
Technically you could get a 6IV one in the wild, but the chances would be exponentially tiny.
There’s a giveaway right now in r/breedingdittos that started an hour ago. Hop to it!
https://www.reddit.com/r/BreedingDittos/comments/5gg5wk/giveaway_gen_7_giveaway/
Thanks!
I just had a awesome battle
I was having a bit of a bummer day
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7pokebankou-489572321
So guys I need some advice
I need to run a Ground Mono for Alola but need ideas
So far Mudbray, Alolan Diglett and Sandygast…. And that’s literally it…..unless I give myself Zygarde 10% and Sivally…. Just feels like cheating……
I do have this….othe plan…
Mudsdale
Alolan Dugtrio
Alolan Golem
Alolan Marowak
Pallossand
Alolan Sandslash…
That team sounds out my ally but it’s just a mixed team then…..I have to continue my title and go through a region with native ground types
I would pick up something like Flygon/Garchomp too
Though I feel Crabominable as very Earthen-y
The second plan might sound better because you can’t find Silvally till post game, and really there’s only 5 different ground types. You can get all of them in the second option, but you would need to have Moon to get Alolan Sandslash. If you’re playing Sun, I’m more than welcome to breed one for you.
Maybe use those 3 Alolan forms and make sure each has Ground Moves?
But two of those arent ground. Why not flygon and anothrr ground
3 of them aren’t ground. Alolan Golem is rock/electric
I think Silvally/Zygarde would be better than Marowak/Sandslash. Silvally does turn into a ground type even if it’s normally normal.
I’m curious; does the increasing encounter rate of shinies in SOS battles cap eventually, or could somebody in theory get it to a point where there were shinies everywhere?
Update nobody asked for: 480 Pikipek. My calculations must have been off somewhere, because I can go maybe 100 further.
I know that feel ALL too well
I believe it actually is a flat rate for shinies the whole way through
Really? Then why do people say that as the chain goes on the ratio increases?
I have no idea
I hear it is 1/516 but I honestly want to call bullshit considering how many chains I have had and the amount of shinies I’ve gotten
Then I’ve gotten incredibly lucky before with chains.
You’ve gotten a shiny?
Zubat. Around 20 SOS encounters.
I have gone for Pikipek at least five times, several reaching an over 100 chain …. Look where that has gotten me
Sorry man, that’s really unlucky. Keep trying, you’ll get it some day. 🙁
Thanks for carin’ and I’m not gonna stop until I do!
You clearly have more dedication than I.
I BELIEVE IN MYSELF AND I BELIEVE IN YOU
😀
Good luck! you’ve got this!
😀
THANK YEWWWW
FINALLY home after such a long and draining day. I hate attending birthdays because I have to pretend I like people
yall already breeding for competitive, and there is me where I cant make my wifi connects to my 2ds and cannot battle at all:(:(
Turtonator or Salazzle which is good?
Salazzle
Not Turtonator
Salazzle for sure
For example I have another poison type in my team. Then is Turtonator any good?
Oh use Marowak instead
It’s the second worst fire type in the region
…whats the first?
What is 1st?
Not to trigger anyone, sorry for this
Incineroar.
I mean, I honestly feel like it was meant to be bad… it has FAR too much against it
Even when it gets Intimidate?
I’d say so
I mean
A defensive mon
That is only immune to psychic
Doesn’t even get sucker punch
Is weak to stealth rocks, and pretty much the three most common attacking types in the game (Fighting, water, Ground)
And Bug/Fairy hit it neutral
That weakness and neutral effect spread is NOT good
So it’s that bad?
Pretty much
Salazzle is better
Where do you even catch Turtonator?
Route 13 in Sun I believe
What game do you have?
Both
Oh
I was gonna say if you mained moon, you get the superior exclusive
Blush mountain, near the geothermal power plant
Blush Mountain in Sun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgPJ3Tf1EC8
EEEEYYYY
Sinnoh <3
Ya know its the best
The music at least <3
ok I completely forgot about this song but its amazing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJ8qO_nYG0o
Oh this! 😀
Lopunny, Gardevoir, and Medicham
I love all of these pokemon yay. And they can all mega evolve .o.
True true!
(Still hoping for Marshadow to have a role in the next mystery dungeon game)
Man, I wish they kept 2D sprites instead of the 3D models. They could do like a Paper Mario style
I can see that
I guess they increased the Shiny rate. I got a shiny Mimikyu and I wasn’t even trying, I was just breeding one for trade.
.o. lucky!
Lucky, and mostly because of Masuda method. I got foreign language Ditto while I reached the Nursery during normal play by putting up version exclusive Petilil. Then I got Mimikyu from wonder trade. Then I put them in nursery. Then this happened. I’m not even at my third trial. Sometimes things happen when you don’t yearn for it.
(Smacking own head into the wall)
WHY IS EVERYONE BUT ME SO LUCKY?!
Same as XY, which was increased from gen 5.
I don’t think they have, unless breeding has an increased chance. An NPC mentions it’s still 1/4000
Wow Gen 6 looks so bad compared to Gen 7 is kinda amazing
Gen 6 looks bad compared to Gens 4 and 5 too >.<
lol omg it does
Gen 6 had great game mechanics, but other than that not much. I did enjoy ORAS though, don’t get me wrong. They could’ve gone farther with it though.
That last sentence sums up gen 6 perfectly.
Pretty much! Can’t wait to see how the next games in Gen 7 improve on S/M 🙂
It was a necessary evil though I guess since it led to the best games in the series
At least it’s in the past
Goes without saying.
Gen 6 looks bad compared to nearly any other gen, having a villianous ginger with a hair that looks like an ugly love child between a Lion and Astro Boy doesn’t help anyone
Lysandre is the worst villain everrrr
They did literally everything they could’ve gotten wrong…wrong and its just sucks
At least he died
Sorry but I disagree, I went back to ORAS the other day to get meloetta, and just seeing the little character made me all happy inside and I’m already nostalgic for it hehe
Gen 6 was the god send for competitive breeders.
How are some youtubers so lucky? I’ve seen titles such as “15 encounters shiny Rockruff” (made up example), and that’s normal for them. For them going over 100 is insane, and here I am well over 500, and maybe people here have never even found a shiny.
Well they also most likely have a charm and they play Pokemon as jobs
That’s true, but having more time on your hands doesn’t make shinies come sooner in a chain.
it took me 150 encounters for shiny dewpider (without shiny charm) and for shiny bagon (with shiny charm). I haunted for shiny mudbray but I gave up after 300.
I’m at ~550 for Pikipek right now.
I think honestly that certain game cartridges have like better odds then other I swear, back in my pokemon X game literally like everything was shiny, even the fletchling in the catching demo, but so far for sun and moon even when hunting I have come up with nothing. (I know this isn’t a legit thing but like, its so interesting that I had such intense luck with that X cartridge for shinies, even when I had Y as well it was always X that I found them in)
Just listening to Sinnoh music makes me so excited for remakes. Sucks we have to wait until 2018 most likely though since Star is coming out next year
Rival and gym leader battle themes are amazinggg
Also E4 and Champ tho obvi
My team for D/P remakes:
Torterra
Honchkrow
Floatzel
Magmortar
Lucario
Porygon-Z
I might do this though:
Torterra
Infernape
Empoleon
Honchkrow
Porygon-Z
Froslass
This is always so hard for me to choose
Mantine/Staraptor
Infernape/Empoleon
Lopunny
Gardevoir
Froslass
Luxray
Yeah it was hard cause I wanted to use Mismagius, Yanmega, Toxicroak, Drapion, Spiritomb, and Vespiquen :/
Mine
Empoleon
Honchkrow
Roserade
Garchomp Possibly
Dusknoir
Togekiss
Very noice.
Thank yewwwww
I’m never a fan of all starters on one team. It seems, wrong to me because you only pick one.
I’ve done it before in Platinum; ’twas awesome.
I’m so lost on what to to with Tsareena competitively. Its speed is too low to sweep and it cant really be utility with its defenses :/
RU god, that’s its role
.-.
Dead serious, that thing will be a scary low-tier annihilator
Maybe it can do some good on a Trick Room team?
A bit too fast for that IMO
Honestly? Two generations ago this thing would be godlike, stopping plenty of scary mons.
Now it’s good and all, but it’s a bit outclassed
Plus, Lunge exists
It’s probably too high for that.
Tip for Araquanid users
Run a defogger/Rapied Spinner at all costs! Araquanid does not take rocks well at all and it is really terrifying for it, even more so than most bugs
What’s everyone’s teams?
Moon (Cosimo):
Torracat
Crabrawler
Trumbeak
Rockruff (one level away from becoming Lycanroc Midnight)
Fomantis
Wishiwashi
Sun (Jeff):
Dartrix
Crabrawler
Trumbeak
Rockruff
Bounsweet
Egg (Eevee)
On my Moon version my Eevee egg hatched and then at level 8 it evolved into Sylveon. I thought it would evolve into Umbreon since it was night but it ended up being Sylveon. But I go ugh too it was pretty cool how quick it evolved.
My main team ended up being
Incineroar
Toucannon
Vikavolt
Mudsdale
Toxapex
A. Ninetails
Gotta admit this team is probably one of my favorite teams to date. Maybe it’s due to the story of Sun and Moon, but I feel really good about the time I’ve spent on them and am really happy with how they turned out. lol
Which did you find more useful, Mudsdale or Alolan Ninetales?
Well to be fair they both had their own uses so it’s kind of hard to say. Also I had Mudsdale most of my game and Ninetails really only for ending part more so (at least until it’s available anyway), but I guess in a way Mudsdale is more useful. Having ground, fighting and a Steel type move available to it is pretty useful. That said in the right battle Ninetails is super useful. Both are great is what i’m saying lol
Litten line is the best!
Anyone else think that Golisopod is Genesect?
Nah, they dont look too similary, Kabutops makes more sense
I prefer this over Kabutops TBH.
This is it. I’m out of PP items, and I have exactly 20 more chances to get the Pikipek. If not, I wasted 8 hours on chaining 700 Pikipek for nothing.
I’m so scared right now. ;_;
I am amazed it is taking this long seriously
So am I. I thought 100 max.
Omg…..
Yeah.
I hope it works!
Thanks!
I hope it does too. xD
Yw!
How’s it going?
7 left. Not well.
Oh god
you can do it.
Thanks. 15 more chances…
I wish you luck
Thank you!
Makes me think I’ll stick to Masuda Method. Good luck!
It’s usually MUCH better than this. :/
How many shinies have you gotten by S.O.S?
1, but this is only my second time chaining.
……I’ve chained about 20 times and gotten zero shinies
That’s just some bad luck, keep at it!
I’ll try
Keep in mind, my luck is unnaturally bad
99% of the time this method is way faster I am stunned how long it is taking seriously. Like it shouldnt take more than 512 or hell even 100
Well I am nearing 1000 eggs on my female shiny Ralts hunt :/
The most I’ve ever done is 2500 eggs.
I did 3000+ without hatch powers or shiny charm for my perfect IV spread Shiny Swablu.
Ah, I had charm on 2500.
3000 is seriously dedication.
It was mindless while I watched box sets. I may or may not have been driven further insane.
I know that feeling. xD
Can’t complain too much, I did recently get that perfect HP Ice Shiny Electrike after all.
10 left…
2 left…
NUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Choice Spec Primarina is a goddess
Just purchased Super Mario Galaxy 2 on Wii U since I sold most of my physical games a while back to pleasantly find out the Wii U uses my Wii data and my 100% file is still there ^_^
Surprised that works actually.
Same lol I’m very happy it does.
I was goona buy SMG2 but went with Paper Mario since I still haven’t beaten Mario 64
Already got it got it on my Wii U haha But I only got to the 4th star and then took a break and never picked it back up. I’ll need to get on that after finishing Wind Waker. My poor Wii U needs some more loving before Switch comes out.