Pokémon Generations Episode 12: The Magma Stone

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Pokémon Generations Episode 12: The Magma Stone has just been released on the Official Pokémon YouTube Channel!

In The Magma Stone the remains of Team Galactic have awakened Heatran deep within Stark Mountain. Can Buck and Looker stop their burning ambitions from erupting into catastrophe?

What do you think of the latest episode? Enjoyed the Generations journey through the Sinnoh region? Up next is Unova!

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  1. also while I understand most of this pokemon were designed for VGC and Doubles in mind. It is kinda sad that only one has true potential to be OU in singles(other than some UB and some Tapus with I dont count because they were already set to have good stats)

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  2. Moves that are categorized as Other (status moves) can be used with Z-Moves to get a bonus affect specific to that move like Attack up, Defense up, Evasion Up, etc.. There are even some that heal 100% HP. Here’s something for the new meta: Z-Belly Drum’s Z-Power bonus affect just so happens to be one of the moves that restores HP, and it does that before deducting the 50%, so it can be used below 50% health. Whelp…

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  5. Z-Nature Power transforms into the respective Z-Move based on terrain
    (i.e. Energy Ball -> Bloom Doom, Earth Power -> Tectonic Rage). Z-Hidden Power always transforms into the Normal-type Breakneck Blitz no matter what type it is. Z-Moves bypass Protect but deal reduced damage (roughly 25% of original). It’ll say “*name* couldn’t fully protect itself!.“

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    • Question though. Do certain Z-moves count as making contact. Like Breakneck Blitz is clearly making physical contact with the pokemon, so would it also be effected by things like iron barbs or static?

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      • I think I’ve read about that before and it seems like the Z-Move will have the properties of the regular move you are choosing to power up with Z-Power. For instance, if you use Solar Beam, Bloom Doom will be a Special attack. If you use Razor Leaf, Bloom Doom will be a Physical attack, but won’t be as powerful as when you choose Solar Beam. Z-Moves have a base power of 100 but can be more powerful if you’re using a more powerful regular move.

        It seems Pokémon gain Z-Power through the Z-Ring and Z-Crystals. Once you are ready to use your Z-Move you have to choose which move you want to power up with Z-Power. Physical and Special moves become Z-Moves while Status moves will have a Z-Power bonus effect like Attack up, Defense up, Evasion Up, heal 100% HP, etc.

        This might not be 100% accurate as this is only what I’ve understood from the things I’ve read. I don’t have the game, just eyes for reading and a mind for processing and understanding.

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  6. There were rumors a few weeks back that Ash Ketchum was the Champion, and I’m so thankful that didn’t turn out to be the case! Would have made for a strange game-anime crossover.

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  7. There’s more to Z-Moves than just single-target nukes. Splash powered up by Z-Power becomes Z-Splash, which grants +3 Attack.
    Z-Destiny Bond redirects all attacks to the user. Every status move not named Nature Power, Metronome, or Assist has an additional side effect when used as a Z-Move.

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      • Yeah I thought about it as soon as I posted it because Silvally needs a bunch of items to change form which involves too much strategy as far as Ash is concerned. But I thought it made sense because its evo method is trusting its trainer enough to lose the mask.

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        • The anime doesn’t always follow that sort of thing though. I don’t know, he could rescue one along the way and maybe call on it occasionally, definitely would stay Normal type though.

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    • No way he’ll get Silvally
      Golisopod is a bit much
      And Passimion isn’t too bad but I think Crabrawler is more of Ash’s type since they are fiery combatants

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      • Wayyy late, Silvally’s a stretch, but I stick by Golisopod because it’s like Ash’s thing nowadays, taking weak pokemon and encouraging them to become op. I can see it being the Infernape/Goodra of Alola

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    • I’d say he would have Crabrawler, Lycanroc, and the last one is a complete mystery to me. But I agree with Decidueye and Toucannon.

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  12. So what does everyone think of Toucannon? I agree it’s design is super simple, but I feel like most of other regional birds have had simple designs too. I personally love it.

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    • I felt the execution was a tad forced
      They totally scrapped a decent woodpecker theme into a psycho furnace beaked tropical bird
      They should’ve done a tropical parrot into a bigger hornbill then finally toucan

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      • I can see what you mean. Woodpeckers are closely related to Toucans, but it may have been better for Pikipek to stay a woodpecker and for Toucannon to have it’s own evolution line.

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    • i dont like the eyes, but i like the design alot, but yeah I agree with a lot that it should have been a separate design and kept pikipek as a woodpecker

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    • I think it’s got more personality than most of the Normal/Flying regional birds.
      I don’t like its second form, but Pikipek and Toucannon are more appealing than Pidgeot and Unfezant.

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    • Typing is a waste imo, after Talonflame I had hoped we’d ended the Normal/Flying regional bird every gen. I’d have preferred Dark, Steel or even Fighting (the last 2 would need a small design change.) As it is I dislike the eyes, it is not that different from the real animal at all. I don’t see much of any relation between base and final stage which isn’t great really. It could’ve done with a Flying move to abuse with Skill Link. I don’t hate it, I prefer it’s Base and Mid Forms.

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      • I totally agree about the typing. Normal/Flying should just die now. Talonflame was a step in the right direction and now they’ve stepped backwards.

        I don’t think Steel would have required a change, its beak and body look sleek enough to be metal. Think of Scizor, Jirachi, Mawile, Empoleon and Sandshrew, they aren’t obviously Steel type to look at but they make sense as Steel.

        I don’t dislike how similar it is to a real animal though, there’s a lot of pokemon like that, like Bunnelby and Rockruff, and Komala in a way.

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        • Yeah you’re right, I was thinking of a few ridges on it’s beak or something, kinda like Excadrill has on it’s head plate.
          I think the thing is for me those ‘mon are still distinctly Pokémon looking, or that’s the feeling I get. I don’t so much get that with this, perhaps because of how many variations of real tropical birds there are? I don’t know.

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  16. Generational musings #12:
    – I don’t like Charon’s voice.
    – Buck’s voice is suitable.

    – Damn, that’s an epic croagunk
    – Buck’s stone leaping reminds me of quicktime events in various game series
    – Heatran evapourated? Erm… Ok?
    – Sinnoh’s landscape reminds me of Skyrim
    – Buck is more interesting than I remember, he should make a comeback

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      • No need to scroll, if I just figure out the format the data is stored in I can write a program to turn it into a more readable format.

        Programming powers are great 😀

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          • I’m planning to scan/parse the text, then output a html page (or possibly pages) containing the move data formatted in tables, then build an index area/page that hyperlinks to the right area/page so you can navigate more easily.

            Then ideally I’d host it, but I’m not sure where to host. Might stick it on my github or something.

          • It’s more time consuming than difficult.

            Reading the data is the easy part, formatting it is the hard part because I’m not particularly good with html 😛

          • I tried, but the text file wasn’t formatted properly, several Pokemon have extra/unexplained entries and some of them have more data than others and it makes things hard to work with.

            Long story short, I’ve got it as a 111KB 7Zip or a 755KB Zip if you want it at any point. Uploading to github would take forever though, so if you want it I’ll upload to dropbox and then PM you the link through the forums to stop other people trying to grab it and stealing all my bandwidth 😛

  19. if I had to guess, that’s Bryce Papenbrook as buck. (also, red from pokemon origins, Zidane from dissidia ff) I’m not a fan of this episode, probably due to the awkward translation.
    team galactic, scared for their life, running past buck: Oh its you (like, really? wtf? this sounds so shoehorned)
    buck: yeah its me. (again it sounds so forced.)
    idk maybe I’m complaining too much, I liked it over all but the script sounds so off to me here.

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    • It’s still not as bad as the bit in The Old Chateau where they attempted to translate ‘itadakimasu’. There is no translation for ‘itadakimasu that doesn’t look forced 😛

      This is why I’m hoping they’ll release it subbed at a later date though. Or at least release the originals so we can get some fan subs.

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      • Seconded.

        I know they did the Pokemon Ranger thing for Manaphy and Pokemon Channel thing for Jirachi years back, but at least those were still console related and not forcing people to have non-console device to use the event.

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    • Well all pokémon go does is crash on my ipod, but I still think this is pretty cool :p
      No point being sour because playing a spinoff gives you special gifts, it’s nothing new, and with go’s popularity it’s nothing surprising. Seems kinda churlish complaining about a feature that rewards assiduous fans because you don’t like the spinoff. I can really empathise it being annoying to not even be able to play the game though. But honestly it’s pretty much the same as not being able to afford a gamecube back in the day. Smartphones are pretty much a given these days, especially for the fact you can get pretty dirt cheap crappy ones.

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      • It’s not the same though, a phone is not a console. Aside from which buying a gamecube gave you access to things like Pokemon Colosseum, Pokemon XD and Pokemon Channel.

        Go is the only phone-exclusive Pokemon thing, it doesn’t warrant buying a phone for.

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        • Well no, it wouldn’t warrant buying a phone for, but in this day and age people normally have phones anyway, especially those in pokémon’s target demographic. If you don’t have one you’re kind of an anomaly, moreso than not owning a gamecube, and that’s kind of on you, not on them for hitting a market that makes too much sense to ignore.

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          • I watched Gravity Falls when it was on, but I tried SU and just couldn’t get on with it.

            In fairness most of it was garbage for quite a while. Billy & Mandy/Ed, Edd n Eddy era was sort of a golden age, prior to that and after that things lapsed and fell apart.

          • Gravity Falls was a great show. I can understand how some people might not be as into Steven Universe. That being said, the show gets a LOT better as it gets towards the middle of season 1.

            Foster’s Home For Imaginary Friends will always be my favorite CN show of all time.

          • SU just didn’t have anything that appealed to me.

            I almost forgot about Foster’s. It had some truly legendary characters. Yeah, definitely the golden age 😛

      • The show is adorable, but there’s more to it than what it seems. Aside from what’s listed here, it also brilliantly satirizes millienial culture. Especially with the show taking place in San Francisco.

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          • Heavy usage of social media, alternative health styles rising in popularity (veganism and vegetarianism), buying local, going green, etc. I guess a lot of that is more poking fun at “hipster” culture, but social media and internet usage has a large presence in the show.

          • I must not count as a millenial based on that list.

            I wouldn’t have said buying local was a millenial thing, I think that’s just the modern era as a whole – a sort of backlash from the globalisation thing big businesses keep pushing.

            As for going green, I think that’s partly the school curriculum’s fault, I remember having healthy eating and recycling rammed down my neck since before I knew what a fraction was.

  24. For everyone who’s played sun and moon early or watched gameplay, does the game still FEEL like a Pokémon game? It seems so different and I don’t mind change but if it doesn’t feel like a Pokémon game idk if I’ll enjoy it.

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    • I’d say the actual gameplay, graphics and music feel very much the same and at the same time like an evolution, but I think the plot has diverged somewhat. They’re creeping further away from the naturalistic G3/G4 style plots and creeping into the scifi realms even more so than G5/G6. It’s not too far gone yet but I hope they reign it in a bit next time. That said, the dialogue was very good, even if the themes are detouring.

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      • Then again, there isn’t too many naturalistic ideas they could still do though, so going into different storylines/themes is a good thing, I feel.

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        • Depends on what they choose to do.
          I’m ok with the island trials and that side of things, but I really don’t like the UBs. I’d rather they’d brought back Shadow Pokemon or something, the UBs just don’t sit right.

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          • I see nothing wrong with it, especially when I feel they are doing a nature vs science theme. And I’m absolutely certain that is what they are going for. Why else mention so many times how the people of Alola are one with nature and respect? Why else have, in contrast, a super high-tech, science-forward Aether Foundation that at certain times deviate/change from what the local’s stand for? It’s just too much to say they aren’t going for that. One cannot demonize the other, however, because they both rely on each other.
            (Just in case this is a spoiler for some people) But aren’t UBs technically Pokemon, but from another dimension? So therefore, in the world they are originally from, they are nature. They just look odd/scifi to us because that’s not the Pokemon world/real world nature that we’re used to.

          • Nature vs Science is a fine theme, but I don’t think the UBs are a good way to serve that theme. Cases like Mewtwo and Genesect utilised that theme much better.

            They are lifeforms like Pokemon, but so far there is no point in the dialogue where a character acknolwedges them as being Pokemon, they are always treated differently. The fact they cannot be caught with regular Pokeballs already indicates some underlying major difference.

          • In my opinion, the UB’s are a PERFECT idea… just…. they were implemented kinda poorly into the story….

          • I thought Mewtwo and Genesect didn’t do it nearly the same level as I feel it will be applied here, but I honestly haven’t seen all the story and experienced it myself, so I can’t say for certain. I just feel this plot addresses this theme better than any previous Pokemon story.

          • Well, I’ve seen from the climax to the end credits. Parts of the plot are good like Lusamine’s corruption but I still think they could have done better without the UBs.

            I tend to think of Mewtwo’s storyline as the one from the film, which is what I think they wanted to do but couldn’t because of hardware limitations.

            Genesect didn’t get enough coverage, but the non-mascot legendaries rarely do in-game. Until ORAS, Deoxys had very little lore and until HGSS Celebi had almost no coverage. Jirachi and Victini still have practically nothing, as I expect will be the case with Marshadow.

          • A lot of decent legendaries have suffered because they leave their plots to films instead of showing them in-game.

          • I actually like the UB’s because they ooze with potential for the third game XD
            And I love nearly all of them

          • I only like UB01 and UB02B.

            The giant mosquito, the bamboo, the heap of wires, the origami man and the giant mouth I really dislike.

          • The oragami one I don’t see much appeal in…
            The green rocket one is a favorite of mine, I just LOVE it
            I actually didn’t like Expansion until I saw its animation in refresh
            the giant mouth annoys me too..

          • I completed 1 and 2.
            They were a fair attempt at a Pokemon-like game and I think they deserve to coexist.
            I enjoyed them more than I enjoyed the Yokai Watch demo in terms of gameplay and possibly story.

    • While I haven’t gotten to far, it still feels like a pokemon game. The theme is definetly a good bit different but it still has that…. “Pokemon” touch… Just a little different

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  25. I’m not listening to much of the SM music cause I want to experience most of it in-game, but I’m just over here obsessively listening to Lusamine’s Battle Theme (not the UB Lusamine one)

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