Spoiler & rumor alert: The contents of this article are speculative in nature (based on evidence from demo contents & official documents) and may also spoil surprises in the game. You have been warned.
Dots are being connected in what could be the biggest Pokémon crossover between the anime and games that the franchise has ever seen. Pokémon Sun & Moon could be the first titles in which Ash, the star of the Pokémon anime, makes an appearance.
Although his in-game counterpart, Red, has a storied history since debuting as the protagonist of the first Pokémon games, Ash has never actually appeared in any games of the main series. Ash-Greninja being available hinted at his existence in the game canon and the demo also made passing reference to him, but it was not widely speculated that he would actually be an opponent in the games, until now.
Recently a trademark filing by Nintendo & Game Freak for ‘Satoshi’ (Ash’s Japanese name) was discovered. This is interesting because it is obviously game-related, not simply a filing for the anime. Although Ash-Greninja will be available to players in Pokémon Sun & Moon after transferring it from the demo, there wouldn’t be much more reason that they’d need to trademark Ash’s name: after all, the anime season featuring his Greninja just wrapped up. The filing also makes no mention of a Pokémon in correlation to him either.
In addition, his Pikachu has already been confirmed by game data mined in the demo! Whether this is an event for players (probably) in addition to a Pokémon he may use on his team is still unclear. It does however point to one thing: Ash is definitely tied into Sun & Moon heavily.
This all comes together with the recent unveiling of the Battle Tree, a location in Alola that allows players to battle with and against some of the most famous trainers in Pokémon history! Sounds like a great place for Ash to make his game debut…
I’ll finish up by reminding everyone with exactly the same warning I gave going in: this is not confirmed. It is, however, definitely something that is being strongly hinted at!
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A few more hours until the spookiest day of the year…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqzBv3FYpr0
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wA3plDGGXdg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TFtAihzM3c&feature=youtu.be
Awesome! Plenty of new tidbits.
I get so sad whenever I see a Dragontie or an Arcanine now. I wanted alolan forms for them so bad
I get so sad whenever I see Komala, Minior, Pyukumuku, or the anchor thing.
Minior is so gimmicky though. They’d have to design an evolution with each color. Personally, I’m fine with Minior as it is. I’m even using one in my Sun playthrough.
I wanted a bigger minior thing with smaller orbiting miniors.
Yeah, where’s Mighteor, the OBVIOUS BLOODY PUN that Minior was clearly building up to???
Pyuku and Komala I get I’m sad for them too.
Minior was kinda a gimmick mon from day one
The Anchor is probably something decent
I was honestly dreading a Water Arcanine xD But Dragonite man, wtf. Misses out on a Mega, misses out on an Alola form. What does GF have against Dragonite!
How bout flygon?
Flygon will get a Mega one day ;~;
Woah woah woah. What’s going on there with all three trial captians? Battle Royale demostration? O.o
Well that’s one way to get a hype boner
Every time I see Komala I get angry.
Never forgive, never forget.
Komala having no evolution is a massive injustice #SaveKomala
Same for me and Pyuku
Watermelon bag I need it!
THAT PSYCHIC Z MOVE IS SO COOL
O_O
The scene that showcases the starter evolutions at the beginning is the evolution sequence, correct? It’s orange, but i could’ve sworn we’ve seen it with a blue background…
I believe so! We’ve seen the evolution screen with a green background as well I believe. I’m not sure what determines the color.
I don’t recall green, but this is a peculiar detail.
I do recall green. I think it depends on what stage you’re evolving your Pokemon to?
I think they aren’t evolution screens, but rather you just recieved them in a trade.
I’m watching this on such a low speed so that I don’t miss any details. I’m only at 0:43 so far. >.<
LOL, I honestly know what that’s like! I used to pause basically every second for every new thing I saw, but now I watch the trailer in full, and then go back to catch every detail xD
I think the music at number 7 might be the credits theme.
I can totally see that! I feel like it’ll be the music that plays after defeating a Kahuna during the speech after.
http://i.imgur.com/43sE3ey.jpg
I AM SO HYPE TO SEE WHAT THIS THING DOES IN REGARDS TO THE PLOT I LOVE COMPLETE ZYGARDE SO MUCH!!
Zygarde is really cool…I hope it has a great story
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MphVmymXZ3M
It seems this trailer was advertised more towards the GO players.
so pokemon go update coming lol
I been looking for this commercial since yesterday that’s why I asked where you saw it
I told u they working on it ……wasn’t revealed yet.
Earthen bored…I think I might call it a night
Tomorrow I’m gonna rot the teeth out of my skull and maybe bang my neighbors truck in the cover of darkness
Didn’t know you were into trucks. 😛
I’m so glad I’m not the only one who read it that way.
Same. It was badly phrased lol.
The scary thing is it might not be badly phrased. 😛
Girl needs a new outfit.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a66f249fe17a0484e5a8d642ad65667058fae9152e5961e5df084ea035e7ed74.jpg
Wearing black in Hawaii. Foolish move unless you always lived there.
Same for Wally, those Pajamas better be thin as hell!
Lmaoooo
Y’know… how have we only had one grass/ground type? It’s such and obvious type!
we only had 3 fire/dark and i think that could of been a more expanded type combo
houndour, houndoom… who else?
Lol did you forget Incineroar already? 😛
Or just denial?
ohhh right, my bad, no I have no problem with it, I just forgot it
Some of us are trying to forget… like myself
WE HAVE A GRASS GROUND TYPE????
yea http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/thumb/d/df/389Torterra.png/250px-389Torterra.png
Oh idk why I thought that thing was grass/steel….. I have never used one and never will, same with the piplup line, my badd
Empoleon is the one with the steel typing water/steel lol
I know, I randomly thought they both were… but now that i think about it that doesn’t make sense, I paid zero attention to turtwigs line, I honestly cant even remember their names. I chose chimchar with those games
Such a cool design.
Why is it the only one with that type tho? It’s kinda heat!
Idk, there are some other type combos they need to bring back too
I honestly think ALL the Rotom types need more exploring
Electric fire
electric grass
electric water
and electric ghost especially
Exactly what I was thinking. Electric needs more dual combos
Yeah :3
‘specially more electric water and electric ghost
This big boy is my very favorite Pokemon ever. Torterra is the best!
From the new trailer:
Rowlet lv 16: 47 HP
Brionne lv 18: 49 HP
Rowlet must have like 110 base HP
Something weird in this generation specially for Rowlet and Litten their stat r not matched with their final evolution……I mean Incineroar didn’t look that fast and Decidueye did’t looks have good amount of HP.
But wait. Popplio at lv 16 has 42 HP and Brionne at lv 18 has 49? How is it? It’s like HP growed up of what 5 base point? It’s weird
Yeah… I’ve noticed that too
Little Komala never gets to grow 🙁
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3f50fee80a30d34309aba810751dde5e9a7ea94741cb7eb6ce78d4410c150277.png
It’s facial expression is just like: “This is my fate. I’ve accepted I will never evolve.”
I’d still use it though.
It could evolve in another region. It might not truly be native to Alola. Atleast that is my point of view and could also refer to some of the other pokemon like cutieflys evolution. I think the cutiefly line could use another evolution. Also Drampa needs a prevolution. Maybe the next region/games will have these things.
Black and White soundtrack is so good. This was my team from my original White playthrough. ^_^ Jeez I hope N shows up at the Battle Tree. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/40f66bca8dab08d5f0c13bb72246ac086d0cea4d428b3eb68e0d9a033156ea7d.jpg
Heatmor is such an odd pokemon.
It is! It doesn’t always happen, but I try to have 1 Pokémon on my team that I feel like is easily forgotten or not very popular. Heatmor seemed to fit the ticket. Haha
That’s interesting. I just try to go with my immediate favorites and then fill in the type gaps if nothing else catches my eye. I think my first team for Gen 5 was Serperior, Krookodile, Darmanitan, Unfeazant, Zebstrika, and Simipour. Kind of boring now that I look back on it. I’m not a huge fan of Unfeazant or Simipour
I love Zebstrika!!!!!
I actually really like that team. haha I love the pan/simi monkeys. And male Unfeazant is pretty darn cool looking. And Zebstrika is a super badass Pokémon. This is one of the reasons 5th gen is my favorite. I love pretty much all the Pokémon.
If you follow this pattern, please pick up my boi Minun!
Or maybe Lumineon ;3
I plan on re-purchasing an Emerald for GBA and I’m gonna use both Plusle and Minun lol I’m gonna use Lumineon on my Pearl playthrough.
I love em :3
I’m using Heatmor for my Omega Ruby playthrough 🙂
THIS! N ABSOLUTELY NEEDS TO RETURN I MISS HIM
Yeah seriously! Fuck ash! I rather battle N again
Jelicent is so big and ugly
:O
Seriously male Jellicent is one of my favs ever <3 Plus it's typing? Get outta town! It's the bomb.
http://i.4cdn.org/vp/1477880916343.jpg
So apparently a hat isn’t the only thing we don’t need to wear. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/78902de0f5fcaf7e31b676615d644414b85351032011907ed7c78d79cb7c60e7.jpg
Oh, I can wear swimmies. Yay
Tight speedos ftw
Just gonna put this out there.
It makes a lot of sense that Salandit’s evo is a Raptor. The word raptor is derived from a Latin word that means “to take something by force or without permission”
If they are staying with the idea of a lizard-ish thing that’s a crook, then yeah. The perfect name WOULD be Krookodile, but….
Raptor, as in velociraptor?
…Doesn’t really look like one to me. Actual velociraptors were feathered and had talons.
I’m gonna leave the sad news here:
In the last trailer Rowlet has 47 HP at level 16 and in a different screenshot it has 50 at level 15 (consider that Tepix max HP at level 15 are 49). Now assuming it has something like 67 base HP (if 50 is the max it can reach at level 16) in pokemon history when a starter has a stat over 60 in its base form, that stat is never below 100 in its last stage. Now assuming that Decidueye HP will be somthing like 105-115, I’m sorry to announce that that looking at the speed chart of all pokemon, excluding Legends, Mega and Slaking (which all have a lot of base stats), there is not a single pokemon with base HP over 100 and a base speed over 90 (only Darmaritan has 105 base Hp and 95 base speed). So. in my opinion the best speed Decidueye can reach is 90.
This said, here are my new stat prediction for Decidueye:
110-120-60-80-70-90 at best
110-100-65-90-85-80 at worst (This will be the end of the owl competitivle cause is not a sweeper and not a wall, just a neutral).
Torchic was a thing
what do you mean? The only stats torchic has more then 60 are attack and special attack and both are over 100 on Blaziken.
It’s stats are a bit strange, considering it’s speed was its lowest in two evolutions
Besides, what if the stats become something entirely random? Would that REALLY be the weirdest thing done in sun and moon so far?
Yeah I think it would be really weird. The only possibility is that it will normal HP when it become a ghost. The problem is that Drifblim exists and this means also ghosts can have high HP. Probably Rowlet has 50 base speed, this also explain why it seems Incineroar cannot be that fast, cause probably it is not. We always assumed Litten was fast just because it was faster then Rowlet, which looked like a fast pokemon. Probably Incineroar will ends up with 100 base speed like most fire starter, which is good but not in the Greninja way. I think GF is tired of all this speed and Priority in competitive. This is why probably all this new ability/moves preventing priority are in s/m.
True, though I see Rowlet pulling extremely Greninja or Infernape like stats in my honest opinion. Spirt Shackle is such a good move too…
A move that actually doen’t fit a sweeper. Think about it. Sweepers are sweeper cause they are able to kill the target in 1-2 turns. What’s the point for Decidueye to lose a turn preveting the target to switch? I think this means it can take a few hits, maybe at cost of some attack and speed.
I know that much… But honestly, you never know with GF, they pull random stuff sometimes
(If it was a sweeper with that move, I could see some nice switch play strats
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Plot Twist: Ash is Sun’s father.
It could be a possibility. I could be interesting seeing Ash in Alola.
He will build his own league with blackjack and hookers!
Plot twist: Mallow is the same voice as Celosia! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e2d72d3da70be2b8e8dbe2f8d62c33da6af560ef64f90c59721c6dd566e82ec5.jpg