Pokémon Generations Episode 9: The Scoop and Episode 10: The Old Chateau have just been released on the Official Pokémon YouTube Channel!
In The Scoop, we follow ace reporter Gabby and cameraman Ty as they hack into the Mossdeep Space Center to uncover the story of a lifetime.
In The Old Chateau Cheryl and her Chansey wonder through the haunting Eterna Forest when they stumble upon an even scarier chateau.
What do you think of the latest episodes? Enjoying the Generations journey so far?
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Updated list of stuff we get to do in SM:
– Figure out Lillie’s secret
– Figure out Cosmog’s secret
– Cover legend stuff
– Take down team skull
– Discover the story of Gladion and Silvally
– Take down aether foundation
– Discover the secret of the UBs
– Help the island guardians protect Alola from the UBs
– Complete the island challenge
– Build a Pokemon league
– Figure out the secret of your father
Most of this will be interconnected, but still, there is sooo much to do in the main story (?) alone. 21 days can’t pass fast enough.
20 days 😮
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25 for me U_U
We know lillie’s secret, it’s that She has a Cosmog in her bag
Thoughts on stuff from the past few days:
I really like all the starter names, though I’ll admit decidueye is a bit unexpected and though it sounds awesome I’m not sure I feel it fits the pokémon perfectly.
Incineroar is an amazing name, sadly it would have a quadrupedal beast just as well if not better, so it’s only reminding me of how sad it is litten turns into Tony the Traitor.
Primarina works perfectly for what Primarina is… Still not a fan though :p
Decidueye’s ghost typing is a complete curveball, and a genuinely awesome one at that! Was kinda hoping for ground, but hell if any replacement is good it’s this one!
Spirit shackle is a cool idea, though it’ pretty nonsensical for Decidueye not to have a grass arrow based attack, or for Datrix to have a leaf dart one, or Popplio etc a bouncy-bubble based one (or even for Litten and co an oil-based one)… Though I guess Frubbles never got to be a battle thing so there’s a precedent for such wasted of potential. I am wondering though, would spirit shackle trap ghost types as well? It would seem only fitting, and we need at least something to trap them… (I’d made up my own fake move, spirit trap, for that very reason…)
Now I’m not even sure I’ll use nicknames (never did before VC yellow except a few competitive mons), but if I somehow do, I’ve got to decide whether it’ll be Owliver Queen, or Sterling Mallory 😀 .
I’m still not fully sold on those tapus compared to superior fake leak alternatives, but I will say the surprise typings work well (makes me like Tapu Bulu way better for some reason), and their personalities are neat. My favourite is probably Fini, mostly due to it’s awesome webbed talon-hands. If you’re still wondering if Lele is a butterfly or not, it’s name in french is Tokopiyon (Toko=tapu, piyon=papillon=butterfly).
Alolan persian is garfield, cosmog is cute and I’m intrigued and concerned about it’s nature (I don’t like them messing with things like non-evolving legendaries, though diancie/carbink was already dodgy).
The battle tree looks cool (though I’m really sad they decided to waste the giant tree on second tree-based battle facility), though I’m kinda concerned it’s just gonna be another maison with a few more cool guests… Love the Cynthia and Wally returns (no ageing is because GF is lazy AF and reusing the model, face it people :p ), same goes for Red and Blue and their awesome music, though I heavily dislike red’s new appearance, I get he aged but he really lost his charm IMO (his t-shirt is sick though). All this is boding pretty well cameo-wise, let’s hope this isn’t it…
That new trailer was pretty cool, though I thought it was completely lame how the kid won with an OP Z-move after all that “competitive” training, and was surprised at how well the douche kid took it while I was there fuming for him. TBH I’m mostly apathetic to Z-moves, but this does make me kinda lean towards wishing they simply weren’t a thing. But it’s fine, that’s just the pokémon metagame, we got OP megas and horrendously planned VGC rulesets (hello primals for a year) this gen so this is nothing too unusual.
I liked how Hoku used explosion. It was a risky but strategic move, it’s better than JUST showing winning with a Z move.
dude you need to name it sterling malory that’s genius.
Thoughts on the Generations’s episodes: Still awesome as uje, however there are a few things I’m not necessarily unhappy about, but still kinda dissapointed on how they’re playing things compared to out expectations.
Episode 9
-The battle between the legends makes for a terrific watch, it’s amazingly well scripted and animated even by good anime battle standards, and the accompanying deoxys battle music remix is awesome.
-The voice acting was pretty spot on for this one, for once there aren’t just parts it had slightly worse voice acting or script wise than the french version, there are also parts it did better!
-Happy we got a Delta episode focus, sad we got no Zinnia, or Steven Stone, or especially no Looker (there goes my common thread theory)…
-I mean who greenlit a Gabby&Ty focused episode? I don’t dislike them, they’re decent characters and I like how they’re really expanded upon in the manga, but I’m not sure they deserved the spotlight. Oh well, it makes for a refreshing perspective I guess. Not sure about the whole tackling of government censorship/information protection in Pokémon, it’s the kinda adult political concern I’d expect most main series stuff to stay away from haha.
-Loving the small touches: Gulpin keyring, Rotom shirt, it really keep up the 20th anniversary spiel well.
Episode 10
-Hell, that was Creepy AF, especially Chansey… And Cheryl, her rosy art style creeps me in some proportion to her SMILING companion. I R8 SPOOPY
-Just realised they planned this one’s release specially for halloween… Neat!
-Tbf though, I like the take on chansey, sound and behaviour wise, it’s spot on.
-Cool take on the old chateau and it’s inhabitants, though kinda sad we didn’t get an appearance from the Player, or some actual Rotom cameo rather than a reference.
-Kinda concerned my theory of them lumping all the travelling companions together in one episode hasn’t played out though… Now we know the 2 remaining episodes are going to deal with Cyrus and Giratina, and then Buck and Heatran… My idea would have made for a nice little panorama while giving us more space for more interesting characters… I’ve nothing against the travel buddies, but do they deserve 2 episodes for themselves? (Especially if they’re gonna focus on Cheryl and Buck and not the more interesting ones (IMO), like Riley and Marley)
Have you seen this: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zZqVPiY1yVk
Likely not true, but I’d love for this to be the case (post game, I’d hope).
It’s an interesting theory, but an unlikely one. However it does raise an interesting question with those platforms. They clearly so serve a purpose, but the only one we’ve scene used has been for the match against Hau.
There’s a difference between the platform you battled Hau on and the ones they are talking about though. That one has a clear purpose, to stage the Kahuna battles, but these are more like empty lots in the middle of a town, which seems odd to do that many times.
Yes and no. Yes that one clearly served a purpose, but at the same time we’ve scene the second Kahuna battle doesn’t quite use it, so we can’t assume that their something for the Kahuna’s and other special battles for the alolan challenge. But yeah the fact that they seem to be in the middle of towns or other weird places is kind of strange.
Yeah, the Akala kahuna, forget about that. Hmm, we’ll find out soon enough.
Doubt it. Ohmori already basically said there weren’t any gyms in the games. If we get a sequel then yeah sure, but not in Sun and Moon as base games
Alright I actually watched the video and now I’m still not sure. They make a lot of sense and I do really like the idea of a non linear gym quest for the post game. It would basically let people get their fill of gym style battles without the need to go to a different region. It also makes sense that those empty lots would eventually become something. If it was just one or two empty spaces then I’d say they’re just there to “fill” space so to speak, but it seems odd that there are so many of them. It would also make sense as to why we basically seem to have all the info we need on the captains so far in advance. I would have thought they’d keep most of them hidden until the games release. If they have another role however that’d mean they would have a secret for us to discover (I.E. them becoming formal gym leaders) Either way this is all very interesting and I wouldn’t be against it as it’d make the games “story” longer and more fulfilling.
On one hand, if it is, I think they should be the trial captains that become Gym leaders.
On the other hand,
If each Trial captain gives 1 Z Stone, that’s 7.
Normal, Electric, Water, Fire, Grass, Ghost, Dragon.
If each Kahuna gives one, that’s 4 more, making 11.
Fighting, Rock, 2 more, Possibly Ground.
If there were 7 Gyms, they should have the remaining 7 Types, and then you can get the remaining 7 typed Z Stones from them, making 18.
Meaning, we could finally Get a Dark Gym…
The Deoxys battle with Mega Rayquaza was epic,the second one was pretty creepy.Heck even Cheryl’s Chansey was giving off a creepy vibe >.>;
i just thought of something awesome. If we get FROM software’s games on the switch, that’d be awesome. I also see the as the perfect group to make a proper metroid title. inb4 “no, Zelda” well, Zelda has always been great, we need a good Metroid game, and I’m sure FROM software is talented enough to make a game based on guns rather than swords. (either Metroid or work with konami to make an awesome castlevania)
Need my drug, need Sun and Moon NOW.
me too nonhassled beans, me too 🙁
Been looking at the leaked regional dex, and I think we can figure out or at leatst speculate which Pokemon are version exclusives, though I’m not gonna speculate which version.
Alolan Rattata and Yungoose (Confirmed)
Alolan Raticate and Gumshoos (Confirmed)
Spearow and Murkrow
Fearow and Honchkrow
Alolan Vulpix and Growlithe
Alolan Ninetails and Arcanine
Elekid and Magby
Electabuzz and Magmar
Electavire and Magmortar
Ledyba and Spinarak
Ledian and Ariados
Misdreavous and Drifloon (Hinted by a past trailer though could just be a Day/Night thing as Misdreavous usually counterparts Murkrow)
Mismagius and Drifblim
Bagon and Gible
Shelgon and Gabite
Salamence and Garchomp
Cranidos and Sheildon
Ramparados and Bastiodon
Petilil and Cottonee
Liligant and Whimsicott
Tirtouga and Archen
Carracosta and Archeops
Trubbish and Alolan Grimer
Garbodor and Alolan Muk
Rufflet and Vullaby
Braviary and Mandibuzz
Lycanroc Midday and Lycanrock Midnight (Confirmed)
Fomantis and Morlull
Lurantis and Morlull Evo
Stufful and Pancham
Bewear and Pangoro
Oranguru and Passimian (Confirmed)
Sea Cucumber thing and the Baby Spider thing
Sea cucumber evo and the adult spider thing
Drampa and Tortunator
Solgaleo and Lunala
UB-02 Beauty and UB-02 Absorbtion
2 of the other UB.
Obviously not all will be, Seems a bit too many, but I think a fair few might be. We’ll have to wait and see…
There’s no way one version has an alola form/new pokemon and the other a standard old pokemon…Even yangoos and rattata are not version exclusive. They are just totem exclusive. The only new pokemon who will be version exclusive are probably Oranguru and Passimian, the Licanrock forms, Drampa and Tortunator and Alola Vulpix and Alola sandlash
Rattata and Yungoose are version exclusive catchable.
That was confirmed. In the same trailer.
No. It was not. Check on serebii. It was not clear and probably they are not. What’s the point of bringing Yangoos to counter rattata if they are not in the same region.
Honestly I think it’s silly, but that’s how it seems to be, The people who played the 2 hours of sun said they never found a wild Rattata, and vice versa.
I think it should be Day and Night myself, but then, so should Lycanroc.
And honestly don’t just rely on Serebii
Never heard about players confirming that. And the trailer does not mention them being exclusive, cause litteraly it has no sense. Consider that x/y had just spritzee and swirlix as version exclusives new pokemon. I don’t see why half of the alola dex should be made of exclusives.new pokemon
I said “Obviously not all will be, Seems a bit too many, but I think a fair few might be”, I was just listing off the possible ones and Logical ones..
For example Vulpix and Growlithe are usually version exclusive.
I’m not saying they 100% will be, because Misdreavous doesn’t seem to have it’s usual Counterpart, Murkrow, but it’s certainly a Possibility.
The only unconfirmed ones I am sure about are Electabuzz and Magmar, Ledyba and Spinarak and Braviary and Mandibuzz and Drampa and Turtonator tbh
And no it has no sense, I literraly just said that, but that’s how it is, the only sense to it is that they’re both early route normals. And you’re telling me Lycanroc exclusivity makes sense?
All the pokemon who were VE will be again probably. But vulpix has lost its fire type so it does not count as counterpart of Growlite, for now the only other ice “new pokemon” is sandlash.
Yes, that’s why I’m not 100% on Vulpix, but it’s still very possible. However it wasn’t even version exclusive in Gen 5 and 6 even as a fire type.
Type doesn’t always matter in exclusivity though, Oranguru and Passimian don’t share a type.
That’s all I’m saying.
Sandslash and Sandshrews counterpart is usually Ekans and Arbok, but they don’t seem to be in the regional dex, so it’s likely that they’re in both games.
So let me understand, the game who has Vulpix has both new alola form while the one who gets growlite has just sansdlash? What’s the point? They are both in both games or they are version exclusives. There’s no way imo that an old pokemon and a new one can be version exclusives. It would be not fair.
Why not?
Heracross and Pinsir became version exclusives to each other. The point is theres mroe alolan forms than just that, for all you know the Rattata could be in the seperate game from the Vulpix, technically making them counterparts too for alolan forms.
And all I’m saying is POSSIBLE, you’re just writing it off completely.
As it is though, Meowth and Mankey are usually counterparts too, I didn’t include it as Meowth seems to be in both games, but it’s possible that that’s wrong.
All I’m doing is saying what’s Possible, not what I totally 100% think will happen, you don’t have to be so dead against it
Despite the fact that in gen 2, where Heracross was introduced, they were both in both games, meaning that a new pokemon and an old one should not be VE at least not in the generation in which the new pokemon is introduced.
I keep saying again and again, it’s possible both ways, but you don’t seem to be getting that and just seem to think I’m saying “Oh it will be” instead of what I’m actually saying, which is, I repeat “IT’S POSSIBLE BOTH WAYS”
It’s entirely Possible Vulpix and Growlithe are version exclusives. And theres only one way to find out. So theres really no point in arguing about it. Just cause you don’t think so doesn’t mean it can’t be.
If they wanted to make vulpix and growlite exclusive they would have created and alola form for vulpix too, don’t you think? I can’t see it being possible and I cannot accept your point of view cause you are not giving me any clear proof to make me think that way. It has never happened, so why should happen now? Give me good proofs and I will accept the possibility.
*for growlite too
It’s still a Vulpix though despite having a different type. How can you say for sure that it isn’t possible, when you’re not giving any clear proof either?
It’s completely Possible, open your mind a bit.
My proof is that it has never happened in pokemon history that a new pokemon and an old one are version exclusive. Even Misdreavus and Murkrow got both an evolution in D/P so they could be version exclusives, so did Heracross and Pinsir with megas in x/y. If GF wanted vulpix and growlite to be version exclusives in s/m they would have given growlite an alola form. There’s no reason someone would prefer growlite on alola vulpix, cause you can bring your growlite from pokemon bank, you cannot bring an alola vulpix in the same way. This is not fair, it has never happened and in my opinion it will not. My mind is completly opened to things that MAY happen.
You know what also has never happened?
No Gyms, a Legendary that evolves, Old Pokemon recieving new forms that aren’t just a temporary form change, A Pokemon that evolves based on which game it’s in, A Legendary from a past Gen gaining significance in a new one.
Vulpix isn’t technically a new Pokemon. Just an old one with a new type, and as such it’s possible that it will be.
This is a gen where we shouldn’t really just say it has never happened so it won’t this time.
And why is your beef with that one, theres others on that list which stand a much less likely chance, the fossils for example.
Until theres 100% Proof, you can’t really say it can’t happen, not even cause you don’t think it should. I don’t think Lycanroc should look different based on which game it evolves in, instead it should be time of day but it does.
When you cannot bring it from a past gen it’s a new pokemon. Vulpix may have the same name and the same specie but competitivly speaking it’s a completly new pokemon. So just because Alola has no gym I’m forced to believe that Arceus is going to have a Mega Evolution? Cause there’s no proof of it, but hey tell me that’s not possible! Everything is possible but history is a teacher of life and until a little tiny proof I don’t believe anything.
Electabuzz and Magmar got both a preevo and a evo, Pinsir and Heracross, Mawile and Sableye, Tyranitar and Aggron got both a mega, Misdreavus and Murkrow got bot an evolution.
I have history on my side, you have nothing, so stop telling me how to behave.
That’s completely possible, just unlikely. I’m saying Possible, not Likely.
If theres one thing this gen has taught us, it’s to not rely as much on what history has taught us. Chill.
Just accept that I don’t agree that it won’t happen and move on.
So you agree on the fact the you have no proof to support your theory except from the “everything is possible” stuff. Ok, I see your point. We can stop this.
And you agree that all your proof is “I don’t think it will so it won’t” I see your point, yes we can stop this, I didn’t even start it.
“In my opinion it will not happen”, as you can see I said in my opinion and it’s not because I wake up this morning like that, but because history tells me that, that’s a proof that can support my theory. At least I have something that support my argumentation, you have none, so what?
It’s probably cause I suck at arguing, always tripping over my own points even if they’re Legitimate.
This seems to be boiling down to this
You think it’s not likely because you’re seeing it as a new Pokemon and not accepting that it could be due to past games.
And I think it’s possible because it’s still a Vulpix in the end and this Gen has shown that we can’t really rely on thing from past games.
I’m seeing you as Stubborn.
And you’re seeing me as stupid.
Lets just agree to end it without insulting each other just because we don’t agree. We’ll find out in under a months time, not that long to wait.
It is like a new pokemon. It has a unique type, a completly new movepoll, completly new abilities and a new design. It’s an old pokemon just because it’s called vulpix? Why you should give one version the possbility to use it and Growlite (from pokemon bank) and the other just growlite. It’s not fair, this is why old and new pokemon have never been VE.
P.s. I have never insulted you in anyway. If saying that I don’t agree with your point cause imo has no basis it’s an insult, then it’s your problem. Never said you are stupid but I’m the stubborn apparently.
Scuse me for butting in but I’ve read all of this and you’re both being pretty stubborn IMHO. It’s pretty laughable. It looks so childish. Grow up the pair of you an accept that you don’t fucking agree.
Thanks for your opinion. We will keep it in mind. People usually talk and confront even with different points of view, you know. This is how you grow up.
It’s just a childrens game ffs, you both looking too deep into it
Pokémon. Is. Not. Just. For. Children.
It’s a game for kids that anyone can play. It’s never gonna be anything more.
I do suck at Arguing
Dude they aren’t version exclusives they are time exclusive it states Alolan Rattata’s only come out out night and they played Sun where it’s normal time so when playing in the afternoon or morning you won’t find Rattata you will find Yungoos and vice versa
We better, because it would be pretty annoying if not. I’m just prepared for that to be the case based on Lycanroc.
Oh I want night and Day cause then I need to efface my Gumshoos of my portrait knowing it’s Moon version
Why have version exclusives at alllll?
Because they do
Day/Night exclusive not Version exclusives
http://is.4chan.org/vp/1477695352820.jpg
God if that’s beautiful. Most majestic starter ever.
Looks like shit
I wonder where is the pink spot in her eyes?
If you loook closely it’s riiiiight there https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b7db35c2135146a15983ac2f13118d796b6cc93a8a944fd2aa290524c6bd6350.png
I try as much I can …………..but wat did this spot mean? I still can’t understand it.
Damned if I know, Aesthetic?
Yeah I know …..I can understand it in design it’s to balance the colors but many artist do that in other art but wat did it mean?
Zoinks! Now I don’t blame Gardenia for being afraid of the Old Chateau anymore.
Episode 9 was the best ever and Episode 10 was very good, giving Halloween tease. I can’t wait for Generation 5 shorts.
Next week will probably be 1 Sinnoh one.
Unova will probably be Episode 13.
These mini episodes are kinda lame tbh
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