Underneath the Mask: The Mystery of Silvally

Type: Null and its evolution Silvally are odd Pokémon, and I don’t just mean their chimera-like designs. Ever since Type: Null was first released, folks speculated that it might receive an alternate Form without its mask, but I don’t think anyone expected that it would evolve. I doubt anyone was imagining such a weird way of evolving either — most Pokémon transform into a bigger, stronger and tougher-looking version of themselves when they evolve, or they just turn into more than one of themselves (no offense to Magneton, Dugtrio or Vanilluxe). When Type: Null evolves into Silvally, its head and tail turn from gray to white and it loses the helmet, and that’s about it. But there could be a different reason why this evolution happens the way it does: character development.

Even when Type: Null was first revealed, we knew it had been created by humans, joining a short list of manmade Pokémon that includes the Porygon line, Mewtwo, Genesect and Magearna. According to the Pokémon Sun and Moon Official Website, it “was constructed to synthesize the strengths of various Pokémon, enabling it to adapt to any situation.” The website also says that Type: Null was created to be “powerful enough to rival those Pokémon often spoken of in mythology” in order “to complete a certain mission.” Since Type: Null is a Normal-type that combines aspects of multiple types in its design, and because part of its mask somewhat resembles the ring around Arceus’ middle, plenty of Pokémon fans figured that this Pokémon spoken of in mythology was Arceus.

Upon evolution, Silvally gains even more similarities to Arceus. Its RKS System ability has the same effect as Arceus’ Multitype, the Memory hold items work the same way as Arceus’ plates, and the move Multi-Attack changes type in the same way Judgement does (or Techno Blast, for that matter).

But why would someone create a miniature Arceus?

According to Silvally’s page on the Official Website, it “is said to have been created in order to oppose a threat.” What in Alola is seen as a threat to humans and Pokémon? Ultra Beasts. It’s not officially revealed who made Silvally, but my money’s on the Aether Foundation. For one thing, they seem to be the only organization in Alola with the necessary knowledge and resources to create a mini-Arceus, and for another, they’re researching the Ultra Beasts. If this really is the case, somebody in the Aether Foundation must have decided that only a Pokémon with the adaptability of Arceus could prove strong enough to defeat the Ultra Beasts, but it proved impossible to find and capture an Arceus, so they decided to make their own.

However, Silvally’s wild nature made it impossible to command, so they fitted it with a mask in order to control it, and it became Type: Null. In terms of game mechanics, I suppose this would count as a devolution, similar to how some of Slowking’s Pokédex entries say that Slowking will revert back to Slowpoke if the Shellder is removed from its head. In terms of story speculation, it seems as if the ends are being used to justify the means — the Ultra Beasts must be defeated, so controlling a Pokémon with technology and treating it as a nameless, faceless weapon to use against the Ultra Beasts seems like a viable strategy.

I imagine that Gladion probably stole his Type: Null from the Aether Foundation, and it seems likely that he himself might have defected from the Aether Foundation at that time. I expect that at some point during the story of Pokémon Sun and Moon, the player will receive his or her own Type: Null from someone at the Aether Foundation. The Official Website says that Type: Null evolves into Silvally when it “gains a partner it can trust.” I’m not sure whether that means it evolves through Happiness or through the Pokémon Refresh feature like Sylveon and Pokémon Amie, but it establishes something new within the Pokémon video games: a Pokémon with a character arc. Many Pokémon in the anime have character arcs as they learn and grow with their Trainers, but in the games, that was mainly left up to the player’s imagination.

Type: Null was created to be a weapon with one purpose: to destroy the Ultra Beasts. However, a Trainer who sees beyond that and values Type: Null for itself rather than its power will be able to earn its trust. When that happens, it will tear off its mask and regain its true strength. It’s almost as if Mewtwo in the anime evolved when he turned on Team Rocket and destroyed their base, or when he realized that the gift of life has value for natural Pokémon, cloned Pokémon and humans alike. From the look of things, Sun and Moon just might have the best-written story in the series (although in my opinion, they would have to surpass Black and White in order to accomplish that), but we won’t know for certain until next month.

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432 thoughts on “Underneath the Mask: The Mystery of Silvally”

  1. Third :p

    Also, Silvally is probably the first Pokémon to interest me lore wise with the exception of legendaries, really hyped for what they’ll do with it!

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  2. I feel like maybe upon evolution we’ll see a small loss of defence but a huge increase in speed. It a,so makes sense that it gets RKS when the mask isn’t taken of, as it reveals the organ in silvallys head which allows it to change type.

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  3. I’m still not sold on the whole Arceus thing
    Yeah yeah the amount of similarities are there but something tells me they are just referring to Legendary Pokemon in general not specifically Arceus
    Until we see some more lore im just not sold

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  4. Guys I just thought of the most awesomely inappropriate thing ever!!!
    We are all aware that Snorlax has the fear inspiring Pulverizing Pancake Z-Move where it takes advantage of its mind boggling… “Asset”
    Now imagine the result if a Snorlax used Pulverizing Pancake ON A ALOLAN EXEGGUTOR!!!!

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  5. Why do I get the feeling this was a subtle reference to the “stop having fun guys” of the fandom.
    Although I’m probably just projecting a little after going on YouTube.

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          • Actually, they’re based on Hawaiin Gods known as Aumakua, they come on the forms of Animals, and Plants, 1 is even a Rock, so it fits you know.
            Also each of the guardians fits an Classic Element, even if they’re not that type.
            Koko Is Air
            the Dolphin seems to fit water.
            Bull one fits Fire,
            Leaving Earth for the Pink one, Sweet Potatoes grow in the earth.

          • It’s still weird to just have three Tapus be animals and then have the fourth be a sweet potato, especially when they have the option to go for a fourth animal :s

          • Yep, I think it looks more like some sea mollusc thing myself, but Sweet Potato fits the idea that they represent the 4 classical elements, speciall in a gen that seems to be inspired by Alchemy.
            Based on that I think we can come up with names for them.
            Tapu Au or Tapu Whenua The Psychic one (They both Mean Water in Moari)
            Tapu Ahi or Tapu Kanaku The Fire one (Both mean Fire in Moari)
            Tapu Katao (Earth in Moari, though it mught be Ground 1 of the 2)
            Koko meaning Air in Moari.
            OR I could be totally wrong.

          • I don’t think the Tapu second names are in Maori, seeing as that’s from New Zealand when there’s a perfectly good Hawaiian word (kokō, or chicken cackling) that makes a lot immediate sense. And I feel that if they were to represent the four elements, they’d actually be those types (Flying, Ground, Water and Fire) rather than the relatively unrelated (besides one) Electric, Psychic, Ghost and Fire. And I also feel they’d make Tapu Koko a bird more associated with the ability of flight that the primarily ground based Rooster.

          • Yeah, but you have to admit if so it does fit into the Alchemy theme that seems to exist, and even though it is Hawaii, they could take inspiration from other islands in the pacific, I mean, they do have a Koala

          • No, not really tbh. Chickens are terrible at flying, even wild ones, as they’re ground based birds that fly to either escape or get a little vertical distance. That, combined with Tapu Koko’s typing being Electric/Fairy rather than Flying/Fairy, just makes me think it’s all a big coincidence, especially if Tapu Tater turns out to be a mollusc or some other animal in its ‘totem’ form.

            The thing is though, the first part of its name is literally the Hawaiian word for ‘Sacred’, and that combined with the fact that it’s name is identical to the Hawaiian word for chicken cackling as well as the fact that it’s Japanese name, Kapu Kokeko (likely a shortening of ‘kokekokko’, or ‘Cockle-doodle-doo’), so it’s most logical that its name is pretty much ‘Sacred Chicken Noises’ in either language rather than ‘Sacred Air’.

          • Yes, however, it also means Sacred in Moari, so you can see where I made the connection.
            If anything, I think the names I made sound cool,
            If they’re not those, it makes me wonder what names they would have, would the all be based on the noises?
            Tapu Moo? Mabye Momo?
            I dunno.
            Maybe I should nickname them the names I said.

          • Yeah but the region’s literally Hawaii and with a much heavier emphasis on its IRL counterpart than past regions, it’s name is literally a corruption of a Hawaiian word and the four islands are literally Hawaiian colour names. Ergo, it’s plain obvious that Tapu Koko’s name is Hawaiian, especially when its Hawaiian name literally sums up its existence whereas the Maori name is a loose connection

            As for names (keep in mind I’m using Google translate because I’m in a hurry, so it could be hilariously wrong)

            Electric: Tapu Koko

            Psychic: Tapu Paki or Tapu Apaki

            (From the Hawaiian words for splash and splashed, presuming its a squid. Can’t see either happening tbh because it sounds awfully like a British slur for people of Pakistani origins.

            Fire:
            Tapu Makani or Tapu Upa (from the apparent Hawaiian term for bellowing, upa makani)

            Tapu Ala or Tapu Alaka (From the apparent Hawaiian terms for ‘bellowed’ (Ala ka) and ‘bellowing’ (Ala)

            And no idea for purple because it’d probably also use splash or something similar. They don’t all have to even be animal or animal related noises though.

            And I’d avoid referring to the Tapus by your nicknames, I’m not saying their bad or anything but not everyone’s seen your theories and thus may get confused.

          • I mean Nickname them in Game, but yes those are actually cool names.
            But yes I doubt the Psychic one too, perhaps they could be the exception and have it in a different language, not saying my idea, but a different close language

        • Or the very least Ground/Fighting….
          It’s freaking unfair that out of all the Fighting types not one of them paired with Ground
          That was my absolute only wish for this gen but like always it screws me over

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          • I once came up with a concept of a Pokemon which was ground fighting, it was like a humanoid creature made of sand. It slept underground and if you trod on it it would awake and punch its fist through the sand and attack at you. They say the sand it sprays in your eyes will make you enraged.

            It evolved into a Pokemon based of this guy, the sandman, ground/ fairy special attacker which would attack with huge dreams made of luminous sand and would float around….. It’s sand is used to keep its pre evo asleep so they are less ragey. It was like this awesome at peace monk dude. Thinking about it, you’d hate it if this happened wouldn’t you?…

            https://uk.pinterest.com/kailiebutler/sandy-the-sandman/

            Hoping for fire fairy bull!

  6. I hate type null but love sivally ( though it’s name is shit). GUYS IF AZs FLOETTE CAN BOND PHENOMENON THEN PIKA SHOULD BE ABLE TO. I don’t buy Ash is closer to Greninja than pika, or even Pokemon like Bayleef, totodile, charizard, infernape.

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    • AZ’s floette doesn’t use the Bond Phenomenon that’s dumb
      The deal is it was a special Floette that originally belonged to AZ’s Mother who had some connection to the Eternal Flower which it holds
      It was forced to fight in the Kalos war brought forth from AZ’s younger brother
      Then the whole Ultimate Weapon jargon which used infinity energy to end the war but also granted him and Floette eternal life but it left him because of the closedness of his heart

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      • Check ash greninja stat increase and compare it to AZ floette. Plus it looks like him with the red black patterns. And they keep talking about the bond phenomenon happening several hindered years ago, who I think is with the immortal man AZ. The kalos war happened three hundred years ago. I think that’s because AZ floette is the first bond phenomenon Pokemon it hasn’t been distributed yet.

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    • I hope the Bond Phenomenon/Synchro Evolution/Z-forms thing works on other pokemon like the Gen 7 starters, Lycanroc, Gen 6 starters, Marshadow, and Gen 2 starters (since we are not getting new megas)

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    • I didn’t like its name either until someone pointed out that it might be inspired by Silicon Valley, the region where many technological companies are based.

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  7. I wrote this a reply to someone but it felt interesting so I wanted to make it my own comment:
    Based on what we know, we can assign the 3 Known UB to planets. Spoilers for leaked UB,
    UB-01 could be seen as a messenger, and so Mercury, however, it’s also known to transform, so, despite not been classed as a planet anymore, it also fits Pluto, Pluto is the “Planet” of Transformation.
    UB-02 is easier.
    Venus represents Love, Beauty attracts all forms of life.
    Mars represents Energy and War, which very much fits Absorbtion.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7e4a9789107973542d8d1efed616541cda49acf49c736dc377d0b85146298b95.png
    We could probably assign the other Planets, minus Earth, if we knew more about the others, though based on looks I have a couple of ideas, but no evidence for them

    Now it’s also worth noting that, well they seem to go in order if you think of 01 as Mercury.
    Mercury, Venus (Skip Earth), Mars, so going by this, this is my idea going on their order in the leaked pokedex https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/de14e3a6fbb41fb1b3c2a9bf497d99129c96e188e4e4be713879f8f5d9563af7.png
    http://imgur.com/gallery/5C8ry

    Ok so this may be overthinking and probably far off, but it’s something to think about…

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        • If I can ace my midterms then I’m good. My lowest grade right now is in mathematics with a 96%, but considering I’m taking the class 2 years in advance I’m okay, thanks! Good luck with your essay!

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          • Oh goodness, if that’s your lowest then you’re doing quite well (unless I’m missing something with the different schooling systems of different places and all :s)

            Good luck with your mid-terms!

            And thanks!

          • The grading is 50% tests, quizzes, exams, etc… and the other 50% is homework, in-class work/participation, and what ever the teacher wants to add. If you do great in-class, but are failing or getting B’s to C’s in your tests, your final grade is already a given unless you somehow pass midterms and finals.

  8. Kokomo is barely 5 ft whereas type null is 6 and silvally 7 almost 8!! I don’t understand… they’re all different sizes to what I miahkmged. I thought silvally was the size of ninetales.

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  9. i tried to figure out the number of new pokemon for each type. I didn’t count UBs and I made a bit of speculations on unrevealed pokemon:

    NORMAL: Komala, Pikipeck (possibly + 2), Yangoos, Gumshoos, Drampa, Stuffle, Beware, Oranguru, Type: Null, Silvally (possibly Marshadow). Total: 10 (13 at best).

    GRASS: Rowlet, Dartrix, Robinroot, Bounsweet, Steenee, Tsareena, Fomantis, Lurantis, Morelull, Moremorelull, (possibly the sea urchin +2). Total: 10 (12 at best).

    FIRE: Litten, Torracat, Beltigre, Salandit, Slutandit, Oricorio, Tortunator, Tapu Bull (possibly Marshadow). Total: 8 (9 at best).

    WATER: Popplio, Brionne, Poppmaid, Bruxish, Wimpod, Wimpod2, Wishiwashi, Pyukumuku (possibly sea urchins, spiders and anchor). Total: 8 (13 at best).

    ELECTRIC: Charjabug, Vikavolt, Togedemaru, Oricorio, Tapu Koko, (possibly the spider line +2). Total: 5 (7 at best).

    BUG: Grubbin, Charjabug, Vikavolt, Cutiefly, Ribombee, Wimpod, Wimpod2, (possibly the spider line + 2). Total: 7 (9 at best).

    GROUND: Mudbray, Mudsdale, Sandygast, Palossand. Total: 4.

    FLYING: Rowlet, Dartrix, Robinroot, Pikipeck + 2 evos, Oricorio, Minior. Total: 8.

    ICE: (possibly Crabrawler evo). Total: 0 (1 at best).

    FIGHTING: Stuffle, Beware, Crabrawler, Crabrawler2, Passimian, Hakkamo-0, Kommo-o (possibly Betigre). Total: 7 (8 at best).

    PSYCHIC: Bruxish, Oricorio, Oranguru, Tapu Squid, Solgaleo, Lunala, (possibly legends pre evos and Marshadow). Total: 6 (9 at best).

    GHOST: Mimimkyu, Sandygast, Palossand, Lunala, Oricorio, Tapu Dolphin (possibly the anchor and Marshadow). Total: 6 (8 at best).

    DARK: (possibly Beltigre, Pikipeck2-3, Sea Urchins, Spiders, Marshadow). Total: 0 (8 at best).

    STEEL: Togedemaru, Solgaleo, Magearna (possibly sea urchins and anchor). Total: 3 (6 at best).

    ROCK: Rockruff, Licanrock, Minior, (possibly the anchor). Total: 3 (4 at best).

    POISON: Salandit, Slutandit, (possibly Sea urchins, spiders and Marshadow). Total: 2 (7 at best).

    DRAGON: Drampa, Tortunator, Jagmo-o, Hakkamo-0, Kommo-0. Total: 5.

    FAIRY: Cutiefly, Ribombee, Mimikyu, Confey, Morelull, Moremorelull, Tapu x4, Magearna (possibly Poppmaid and Marshadow). Total: 11 (13 at best).

    Synthesis:

    FAIRY: 11-13
    NORMAL: 10-13
    GRASS: 10-12
    WATER: 8-13
    FIRE: 8-9
    FLYING: 8
    BUG: 7-9
    FIGHTING: 7-8
    PSYCHIC: 6-9
    GHOST: 6-8
    ELECTRIC: 5-7
    DRAGON: 5.
    GROUND: 4
    STEEL: 3-6
    ROCK: 3-4
    POISON: 2-7
    DARK: 0-8
    ICE: 0-1

    Ice is the new ground, while fairies rule again.

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    • Dark type for pikipek’s evos seems a bit out of the left field…
      Greay list otherwise, thanks!
      Disgusted by fairy favouritism, I understand the amount of legendaries like Tapus is distorting the total in such a small generation, but it’s ridiculous the elusive, mystical type might be the most common. Sort your sh*t out GF, ffs.

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      • I agree. They need to introduce that level of mysticism into the designs. Fairies are supposed to be dragon counterpart.

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      • I like Fairy type. The problem is that 6 and 7 gens together introduced only 7 steel pokemon and 4 poison pokemon (for what we know for sure). What’s the point to create a new type to balance the power of dragons and them make that type overpowered like Dragon was?

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  10. So if we assume if there are 7 trials that means 7 trail Captains; we may possibly know all of them. We have the 5 officially revealed, Iilma Mallow, Lana, Sophocles, Kiawe.
    We then have the girl in the demo trailer who has the captain badge thing in her hair, the ghostly looking girl. Then we possibly have Kahili, the character the NPC mentions in the demo, who is said to be great at golf and off concurring the world. I mean I maybe wrong about the last one but gamexplain seems to think she could be one to so, what are everyone’s thoughts?

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    • I don’t know about Kahili yet, but don’t cite gamexplain as your reasoning. If you’ll recall, they were sure there would be 14 Trial Captains and 4 Kahunas. 😉

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      • I wasn’t really citing them, more they had a similar idea to what idea to what I did. I don’t think I ever believed we were going to get 14 Trail Captains. Clearly as evidence suggests about its most probably dragon. Maybe Kahili is the champion?

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      • Presumably Wishiwashi is a Totem. They just made it’s School form the Totem and didn’t give it a bigger version since it’s already so big. lol

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          • Well technically the blank spaces in the dex we got aren’t “classified” as anything. People are just putting two and two together I believe. The reasoning is still there tho lol

          • I’m interested to see if Zygardes are Totem forms, because it’s likely they’re Cell and Core, but those were found as items in the datamine. It would be an interesting Boss Battle

          • It’s definitely a head scratcher. Maybe the other spots are for blue core Zygarde’s forms or something. I don’t think it’ll be anything like the Totems. So it’s either really well hidden forms or they really are just the Core and Cell for whatever reason lol

          • Maybe it doesn’t call anything but changes form part way through, but it would be pretty bad ass if it called a Garchomp in.

          • From what we’ve seen theres not one after 100%, but there is possibly one for 50% and 10%. Probably getting ahead of ourselves and it is Core and Cell tbh

          • most probably. Just whilst we’re on the topic of the whole trail thing. Where do you think all the trails are based. I’m thinking just Ilima on the first island. Then Mallow, Lana and Kiawe on the second. Maybe Sophocles and Ghost girl third island and Dragon on the last.
            I some how don’t see the second island having 4 and the rest just one

          • I’m a bit disappointed that out of the big island we’re only getting a maximum of 2 trails on there, I would’ve thought there would’ve been more but ow well.

          • Probably means theres something else big there, a big plot element, though an 8th trial wouldn’t have hurt, specially as it seems Dark is screwed over again

          • I feel she’s the champion character. And I’m certain if she’s Royalty she will be dark, as hinted at by our friend Meowth, but that’s not the same as a Trial Captain/Gym Leader.
            Though Raticate being Part Dark means in Moon Illima can be the dark one, but it’s normal too so.

          • quiet possibly, shes definitely something but it seems strange that if shes a Kahuna and specialists in golf why is she not located on the second island where the golf course is? As we already know Olivia is the Kahuna there

  11. I just thought of something: I could name a Rockruff “GoodPoi” or even “WhosAGoodPoi”. Except for punctuation it sounds pretty cool. xD

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  12. Maybe the “Baby forms” are just forms of the legendaries trapped or whatever? And then maybe you have to do a ritual to release their power. Wait. ALL THREE LEGENDS HAVE THREE FORMS. Zygarde 10%, 50%, and 100%. Lunala and Solgaleo both have the minis, themselves, and their Full moon/ Radiant sun forms.

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  13. If you could have 1 Pokemon from each gen (Only 1 Starter, 1 Legendary and 1 Mythical Allowed but you don’t need to have them except the starter), which 6 would you choose, out of the 721 we have now?

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  14. So I’ve decide my next little project in the run up to Sun and Moon is to complete a living dex. I already have the majority of gen 1 and gen 2 done. Gonna start working on gen 3 next. It’ll be more about organization rather than actually completing the dex as I’ve already completed the National dex technically. I’ll only have to breed a little here and evolve there. should be more tedious that actually hard lol

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    • I need to complete the pokedex. I’m not so sure about a living dex, but catching all the pokemon and having all their data in the dex would be great. I would also like mythicals in there, but I haven’t participated in the distribution this year. I just don’t have the patience for a living dex. Poke’tuber aDrive is trying to complete a shiny living dex.

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      • Oh god a shiny living dex……….I can’t even imagine…..I have to admit the aspect of shiny hunting has lost its……..shine………*sigh* After a year and a half of shiny hunting and getting a reasonable amount I think I’ve worn myself out. I don’t have the patience anymore and I feel like I’ve gotten bored. I still like the idea, but my mindset won’t let me get into it anymore…..I think I just need a long break. Maybe after I beat Sun/Moon I’ll get back into it and have a new found energy to do it lol

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          • Nah I like what they’ve got now. Dexnav is what really got me into Shiny hunting. lol If it weren’t for it I would only have the one Quagsire I randomly ran into in X as a prize. Well that and the shiny Pokemon they give out as events, but I don’t count them really lol

          • but there’s no more of that jolt, shock, and awe at finding a shiny anymore. when you rant into a legit one before, this feeling of panic and desire came up, you weren’t prepared, you have to do everything in your power to capture it. that’s all lost now that they are pretty much guaranteed.

          • heck yeah a completely random one is still pretty valuable. that’s a 1/2000ish chance, way more unlikely than the 1/200 ish ones otherwise, or the promised ones from chain fishing.

          • finding shinies still take time tho. I still get excited and surprised when I find one. Even if it’s one that I’ve been hunting for lol

  15. here’s a thought: what if the threat Silvally was created to combat was Zygarde? if it was created by Aether Foundation (speculation) and they did something evil that would awaken Zygarde’s wrath (speculation), then maybe they anticipated Zygarde’s interference?

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    • I could see that. Aether would want to use Silvally as a weapon to protect themselves and then Gladion basically saved it from them and decided to fight for its rights. lol

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        • I could see it as Gladion’s being the original and then after your defeat AF, Hala/Kukui go through AF’s labs and find out there was another. They would then give it to you as you’d be the most responsible person they know lol

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          • I can’t really see Gladion giving his away. I mean, he has a great trust bond with it, plus he has a Silvally, so if he gave it away there would be no way to register Type: Null into the dex (unless you can breed it).

          • Right so that would mean there’s another. Like I said, maybe after everything is said and done the main characters find out AF had another one just in case and the player character is given it since they’re the hero? lol

          • Yeah exactly. That way we’d be able to have Type: Null ourselves and Gladion could keep it’s close bond with his.

  16. The Biggest Null/Silvally mystery is… What Pokemon is it made from?
    I used to think the starters, Rowlett Feet, Litten Body, Popplio Tail, but they look nothing alike the evos we know of…

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  17. I’ve gotta say, I’m WAY more excited for the 27th than all the recent announcements. This release has potentional to debunk the idea that the leaks are the complete dex, or not. Maybe they just want to mess with us a little longer so they won’t reveal anything just yet (or maybe they won’t reveal anything else at all, maybe it’ll be a secret, either way I still 100% believe that it isn’t complete. :P)

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  18. Didn’t the chinese leaker say that there was a cat that could change it’s type base on it’s parent? while sivally is vaguely cat-like it doesn’t change it’s type based on it’s parent. So maybe there are more pokemon to be revealed.

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  19. So this is gonna sound a bit weird and out of the blue, but does anyone remember that in the first trailer there was a part where there was a Pokemon image under a piece of paper, and there was a bunch of buzz on what that was. Did we ever find out? O_o I feel like people sorta forgot about it entirely.

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  20. According to a thread on 4chan explaining why we may have more Pokemon to be revealed, someone quoted a “pink long eared Pokemon” that was supposedly in a trailer. Can anyone confirm or deny this?

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  21. I think this gen’s deck could have easily been larger just with evos and pre evos, not end new lines. I mean just look at this:
    1. Rowlet
    2. Dartrix
    3. Rowlet3

    4. Litten
    5. Torracat
    6. Litten3

    7. Popplio
    8. Brionne
    9. Popplio3

    10. Rockruff
    11. Lycanroc

    12. Komala
    13. Komala2

    14. Pikipek
    15. Pikipek2
    16. Pikipek3

    17. Yungoos
    18. Gumshoos

    19. Grubbin
    20. Charjabug
    21. Vikavolt

    22. Drampa Pre
    23. Drampa

    24. Bruxish

    25. Cutiefly
    26. Ribombee
    27. Cutiefly3

    28. Salandit
    29. Salandit2

    30. Stufful
    31. Bewear

    32. Mimikyu

    33. Wimpod
    34. Wimpod2
    35. Wimpod3

    36. Bounsweet
    37. Steenee
    38. Tsareena

    39. Comfey

    40. Mudsbray
    41. Mudsdale

    42. Minior
    43. Minior2

    44. Fomantis
    45. Lurantis

    46. Oricorio

    47. Sandygast
    48. Palossand

    49. Wishiwashi

    50. Pyukumuku
    51. Pyukumuku2
    52. Pyukumuku3

    53. Morelull
    54. Morelull2

    55. Turtonator Pre
    56. Turtonator

    57. Crabrawler
    58. Crabrawler2

    59. Passimian Pre
    60. Passimian

    61. Oranguru Pre
    62. Oranguru

    63. Urchin
    64. Urchin2

    65. Anchor

    66. Spider
    67. Spider2

    68. Jangmo-o
    69. Hakamo-o
    70. Kommo-o

    71. Type:Null
    72. Silvally

    73. Ghost Tapu

    74. Tapu Koko

    75. Psychic Tapu

    76. Fire Tapu

    77. Lunala Pre
    78. Lunala

    79. Solgaleo Pre
    80. Solgaleo

    81. Marshadow Pre
    82. Marshadow

    83. Magearna

    84. Alolan Raichu

    85. Alolan Sandshrew
    86. Alolan Sandslash

    87. Alolan Vulpix
    88. Alolan Ninetails

    89. Alolan Cubone
    90. Alolan Marowak

    91. Alolan Grimer
    92. Alolan Muk

    93. Alolan Exeggute
    94. Alolan Exeggutor

    95. Alolan Meowth
    96. Alolan Marowak

    97. Alolan Ratata
    98. Alolan Ratticate

    99. Alolan Geodude
    100. Alolan Graveler
    101. Alolan Golem

    102. UB-01
    103. UB-02-Beauty
    104. UB-02-Absorption
    105. UB-03
    106. UB-04
    107. UB-05
    108. UN-06
    109. UB-07

    The End

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  22. Am I only one who thinks that the people who thinks there’s more new Pokemon are just in denial. You’re just preparing yourself to be hurt even more, rather than just accepting the facts.

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    • I think you are right. I have a feeling that due to the nature of the recent gens, they simply need to add fewer pokemon than they used to. but as long as pokemon keeps going, I couldn’t be happier. I’m sure that eventually, with enough negative reaction to the amount of new creatures, they will listen and add more new ones when another gen comes around.

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    • I’ve learned after the ORAS datamine, I was totally in denial that the Battle Frontier wouldn’t come. But alas, it never did so… I’m 100% sure that these are all the new mons. Kinda odd that Magearna is the only Mythical Pokemon this gen tho.

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  23. If Magearna is the only Mythical, and we can obtain it early, then how will they keep players coming back to Sun and Moon in the period before the next games? In the past Mythicals have been spaced out between the games’ release and the next generation to keep us interested, but without that incentive it makes me wonder what they’re planning.

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    • Oh who gives a shit, the stupid thing is probably going to be an absolute annoyance once it goes live,
      And if they let it have Stealth Rock I’m gonna be pissed but the last thing I need is yet another bulky mythical sitting around doing nothing while it somehow absorbs every blow and wins
      Just get rid of all the legends

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      • I guess I somewhat agree. I’ve begun to dislike Mythicals because they give them no backstory or explanation as to why they’re being given to a 10 year old. My point is what can they do differently when all they’ve done in the past is give us these legendaries on silver platters?

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        • It’s so god damn morbid that they just shovel out op legends
          Do you know how annoying it is to wake up every morning and get a Psychic mono which consists only of legends and Slowbro? Or the ever annoying Dragon mono which always the same thing lati, gar, Dragonite, black Kyurem and Hydregion all broken and overpowered
          Flying monos who only use the genies and bulky Zapdos
          Then comes the Steel who abuse Heatran to no end AND THAT FUCKING BROKEN JIRACHI SPAMMING IRON HEAD
          Just too many overpowered legends and nobody will ever stop using them

          Just once I want a whole year of Legends on Lockdown, nobody can’t use them, that way people can’t just fill up a team with cookie cutter teammates

          But in the end I’m just pathetically wasting my breath because it’s only going to get worse and worse because nobody will stop unless forced which can’t be done

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  24. My friend just said that playing Mercy is ‘only pressing two buttons’

    In the meanwhile he probably says Symmetra is a bad character and Bastion is broken

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  25. Am I the only one who kinda likes Alolan Persian and Dugtrio? The games have never taken themselves seriously and they both have character, unlike ‘generic cat’ and ‘let’s just put three whack-a-moles together’

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    • I like them for comedic sake but like I still kinda wish Persian was more proportionate, but hey I will still probs use one of each at some point

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    • I don’t hate them, but I don’t love them. Although I’ve never been a fan of them to begin with. The only Alola version I love is Vulpix and Ninetales because I’ve forever wanted an ice fox, and Vulpix was my very first favorite Pokémon ever.

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        • No it’s not
          It should’ve been pure Ice or the very least Ice/Ghost or Psychic but then that would clash with Marowak which should’ve been Ground/Fire like a savage warrior but nope

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          • You’ll never know more about something than the creator did as they created it

            That goes for everyone, not just you

          • That’s only because I can’t get a say in the process
            If I could talk business with the creation team then we could see different outcomes

          • While you’re at it, demand better treatment for Ash. Since I recently found out that Masuda does have a say in the anime plot.

          • The whole point is that you don’t know anything because you’re not an employe! And even then, you’d still never know as much as the person who decided that Alolan Ninetales was Fairy in the first place as the choice was in their mind, something you’ll never be able to directly access.

            And maybe if you were on the team you’d see why they made such a choice, because they’re professionals in the field who know better than every single person on this site combined tbh

          • Tbh I feel it could be the other way round, quick add ons to pan out the paltry Pokedex they’d given as, as well as to cheat the fact that they’re approaching 1000 Pokémon

          • You just said they don’t make sense and then went ahead and explained why they make sense… Nobody cares what you guys think anyway

          • Of course you would still think that, you completely disregarded the argument rather than either tackle it or just agree to disagree.

            You aren’t as good as professionals in the field, and a lot of your argument is based on subjectivity because of course you’re going to think your idea is better, despite others showing opinions that are quite the contrary. Simple as.

          • Have to agree with Earthen on this. They’re exploiting Fairies now. There’s no legitimate reason to give Alolan Ninetales Fairy typing.

          • Well if you actually understood what ninetails is based on, you would understand why fairy typing makes perfect sense

          • I think it makes sense to be Fairy, yes Psychic and Ghost also make a lot of good sense and I’d love to see that but they didn’t die when they came to Alola…so that rules ghost out. As for psychic no justification besides the very fine line between psychic and fairy designs. I think they chose fairy to give it some back up resistances to balance the newly adapted Pokemon to their surroundings.

          • Ghost/fire is clearly more interesting than the overly used ground and fire typing combination. And there’s really nothing wrong with ice/fairy ninetails either but ice/ghost or ice/psychic would have sufficed as well. I mean to each it’s own but it’s just weird because you say your opinion as if they’re hard facts

    • I don’t really care one way or the other. I think they both look goofy and I do like that, but I can’t see myself using them necessarily lol

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    • I wanted an epic Egyptian themed blue cat…. slender and beautiful, with dramatic eyes and maybe even striped pharaoh hair and a beard, with more jewels etc. So I loathe alolan Persian. It’s truly a mess.

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        • Actually it did
          Everyone forgot they were raised by royalty for quite some time which caused them to be spoiled snobbish and prideful

          Persian of regular descent aren’t always pampered so they had to prowl and hunt for food so thus earning their lean physique but Alolan Persian were probably spoiled to death, and those Royal types probably bred them constantly until they looked the way they wanted them to

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          • Just because the thing’s spoiled doesn’t mean it’s going to become Egyptian royalty specifically

            And I didn’t ‘forget’, I just didn’t think a smug, bland looking cat which has regional differences based on its treatment from a Hawaiian based region would end up Egyptian. I fully expected the thing to be a ‘beautiful Persian cat’ or a ‘fatcat’

          • i never said Egyptian Royal I was giving a in depth speech about the ramifications of selective breeding

          • Then what you said was pretty much irrelevant to what I said because I mentioned how it wasn’t going to become Egyptian royalty specifically as almost every Pokémon will have some sort of set up, arguably the only ones without it is the Clamperl line.

  26. Dude. It’s like you’re treating your idea as fact. When it’s not. No sources have stated that sylvally was created to fight the ultra beast, yet most of this article is written like you know for fact that that is what happened. Now I see why poke jungle gets so much shit. Lol you wrote that like a 12 year old fan boy just putting together his first post on Reddit outlining everything wants to see in the game without underlining the fact that this is in fact not facts and just wants.

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  27. Technically Genesect was already existing before humans, just that it was modified by team Plasma. I know that’s not about Silvally and Type: Null but I just had to put it out there.

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