A stream of Pokémon Sun & Moon (coming next month to the Nintendo 3DS) on Japanese video site NicoNico recently revealed a few small details about the pair of games, which can be found below:
- Shaking grass returns to the games, but its function may differ and there’s a new animation of the wild Pokémon jumping out
- The number of Trials has been confirmed as seven
- Ilima’s trial was previewed and featured the player finding Rattata in a cave, after which they were awarded with a Z Crystal
- Rotom Dex will show you your Pokédex completion percentage after catching a Pokémon
These small tidbits just make me want to play the games more! Not too much longer to wait…
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Only seven trials???? what??? :/ colour me unimpressed, that means there is only one left that we don’t know about. (Please be fairy)
it’s just one less than gyms, and they’re probably spread out better than some of the gyms in past games (you basically do gyms 2, 3, and 4 in succession in XY, and it’s not the only game)
plus, this game will probably have more plot bosses than usual. there’s lots of festival plazas and possibly two villainous teams.
Im aware of all of the things you said but thank you.
There’s the Kahunas as well which makes 11 main battles/trials.
considering there is only 7 trail captains I don’t think we will really get to battle them as the trial, the Kahunas yes, but the trails no, considering Hala’s crabrawler is lv 15 and if you battled all the trail captains on his island before you got to him you would probably be a higher level than that
It’s about quality and not quantity my friend. We could have no trials/gyms and the games could still be amazing. The story shouldn’t be totally dependent on the trials anyway. That’s what happened to gyms and look how boring the formula ended up. I say 7 is fine seeing as the story will likely be about much more than that.
I agree with you after your first sentence, but quality is kind of subjective. And really this wasn’t supposed to be me complaining why arent there more, but more of why did they show us almost all of them before the game came out
Yeah……ok fair enough about them showing the majority of them……I do wish that since there are fewer than people thought there would be they’d have left a bunch of them for us to find in game rather than showing them in pre release…….lol
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It appears to be Dragon
Gameplay Footage. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOLS07JT9ko
Thank youuuu
Ok so 7 trials, if the theory that you have to learn the z move poses from someone is true then i think it makes sense
-7 trials
-4 kahunas
So this makes 11 moves but where are the rest?
-Well Guzma and Plumeria were speculated to use the dark and poison z moves so they might teach it to you at some point if correct, adding two more moves bringing the total to 13, we are missing 5
-Well there is this the speculation that a certain somebody mentioned in the demo is the champion, wont mention the name to avoid spoiling those who dont know, and if there is a champion there has to be an elite 4 wich combined make the 5 that we are missing!
Haha it might be a bit of a stretch but still possible xD
I was thinking the same thing for Guzma and Plumeria, maybe you get the Ground Z move from the girl with the mudsdale
Just cause there are 18 crystals, doesn’t meant they will all come from Trial captains/Kahunas etc. I mean I’m sure that we’ll get some from other important NPCs out and about – like Lusamine and her team etc
I meant the poses you have to make, you gotta learn them somehow
That’s very true. I mean Kuiki’s studying moves, so he’s possibly another source of getting them – as in as you hit milestones of trials completed, he’ll give you some?
Oh right kukui could teach you some aswell!
The possibility of this makes me super excited because I’m hoping Plumeria plays a huge part in these games, she’s too awesome
I feel like both Team Skull and the Aether Foundation will, these games look to be heavily story driven as well as all the interviews with the developers involved saying how they want it to be more immersive & look at the connection between humans and Pokemon & nature – sounds like some good character development will happen
Plumeria was my favorite character in the demo and is by far my favorite admin of a team
Maybe it’s like mega stones. If I recall correctly some random person gives you a Gengarite, so they don’t have to be important to the story.
Valid point however I feel like they’ll try and make Z crystals more important as the whole dance/movement routine comes into play, gotta learn em from somebody, I doubt that protagonist is great at improv
But you’re implying you have to be important to know how to dance. :p
Some NPC could give you a crystal and say, “I was a trainer back in the day… Here’s something that helped me through my battles, and here’s how you activate it!”
Well we’ll find out soon enough I guess! That could be a possibility, but I hope they don’t just hand them out. It should be somin you have to earn as opposed to just finding Mega Stones scattered around the region
Seven is disappointing, but it really makes me believe there’s another huge story plot that we’re missing.
Side note: I totally called it! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/36619f51e78f81286ee0fe08f3222425da87da14920e19c6681db1133b824b93.jpg
I guess I was hoping it wouldn’t be bestiality………..lol
I legit died when I saw that and I was like, someone on here totally called it! 😛
You think there’s another plot string? Already we have:
1 – Completing the trials with Hau and Lillie
2 – Team Skull
3 – Aether Foundation
4 – Legendaries and Ultra Beasts, the latter which might tie into one or both above
We don’t need more plots imo. We just need the ones we have to be good enough. This is already more than most Pokemon games.
You still have to consider post-game too. We’re supposed to be getting a good post-game with Sun and Moon.
I’m still a little sceptical of trials replacing gyms, The one we played in the demo wasn’t particularly fun imo and 7 seems like a rather small number.
It’s a shame because every other aspect of this gen looks amazing, here’s hoping we get a real gym challenge post game(doubt it)
If the trials are like the one in the demo then they’re gonna suck
The demo trial most likely won’t even be a trial again and it’s probably suffering from ‘shoved in’ and ‘make it easy becuase it’s a demo’ syndrome.
What about about it wasn’t like a gym? It was basically a more interactive version of Gardenia’s gym challenge with the exclusion of trainers.
I feel like the two – it trials (3 if you count the old man’s weird one) were just tasters, and they won’t hold our hand like the one with Jangmo-o/Hakamo-o
seven trials are way too little, I’m a bit disappointed.
Especially when you look for a Rattata in a cave.
What’s there exactly to do in the demo? I only played the first day, did the daddy kukui trial and caught some pkm
really you just find some items and such to help you out in the main game, like the wings and the nugget
Oh, not even gonna open it again then
I mean there are some very minor almost story elements but they are not really substantial
But that’s free money to make your character look fab
Aren’t we already getting a lot of money in-game though?
Please if there’s anything like the Lumiose you’ll need every scrap of money you can get
Also more money = more clothes :p
I’ll just walk around naked then
There’s a beautiful new location that opens up – Mahalo Trail – that has great music and a creepy old dude who gives you Stardusts. 🙂
I think I’ll save it for the game haha I know where to take daddy Kiawe now though
I found it weird because gamexplain mentioned that the mahalo trail lead to some ruins but i dont see any ruins when i go there 🙁 or are ruins really a metaphore for old man?
They probably changed it to a dead end
Oh true xD
It’s an old man who loves the company of young boys. It’s the ruin of society.
For all the Team Skull fans out there <3 https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e85b7e10c940115092ba5b3fb7c0e97b04be9914fca7ff766472d8ba1d711bee.jpg
Seven Trials – please be long and interesting enough. Seems like each trial will end with a Totem Battle, which have the potential to be challenging.
Four Kahuna Battles – they will just be like Gym battles so I’m not expecting much.
Guess we have to hope for the Team Skull, Aether Foundation and Ultra Beast plot lines to be really good.
Also I’m hoping they don’t give us another non existent post game
According to an interview, they “gave it their all” for the game and post-game which is supposedly full of surprises
Well in that case I’m extremely hyped
I dont remember if the interview was from gamexplain but i do remember that it was with junichi masuda and ohmori
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One thing that did irk me a lil about the demo and when the games come out, is that battles seem to still take a bit too long to start end. I mean I feel myself definitely turning battle animations off as I progress further in the game just to speed things up a little bit
I think I read somewhere that they made battle animations longer
And looking at the length if a single Z move, I really don’t see myself using them all that much in-game
They’re nice to look at once in a while but they’re not essential for me haha
I mean I didn’t even use Megas in my runs of Gen VI but at least after you Mega’d the first time, it wouldn’t show it again. Z-moves however, I’m sure I read somewhere that it shows the damn animation every single time. Can’t be dealing with a battle that takes ages to complete haha
Yeh, I rarely used Megas as well in-game. They’re just not needed most of the time and are a waste of time with the animation.
I actually hate long winded time consuming and repetitive animations. I get annoyed with them and just wanna get on with the game.
Even on emulators on my laptop, animations are off and I speed things 2x faster, helps with grinding for a start, but the thought of doing it at the speed of the demo is gonna kill me haha
My system or arranging moves helps as I can usually tap the move to use without looking
I’m actually the exact same. I have a set location for moves on each Pokemom.
Top Left – Primary Stab
Top Right – Secondary Stab
Bottom Left – Status Move
Bottom Right – Filler.
So I can insticintly click without wasting time.
I rarely bother with status moves in game. I just arrange in terms of power, with Stab taking precedent, and always try to have 4 moves that aren’t the same type, easy peasy
Status moves are usually set up moves like Calm Mind or Bulk Up so I can steam roll Gym Leaders.
I just usually grind a lil bit beforehand so I can’t be bothered with wasting precious turns haha
I don’t mind the length, hopefully it’ll make the game seem longer, last time it was over in a matter of days.
Who’s gonna gonna blow all their cash in SuMo the moment we can customise our character
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2d40aff57ec821289178d721e1658a4f352f6357cd7e1fefc99a17a9b1be2dc2.gif
all i need is camo pants, a tan brown vest and a good hat
I’m probs gonna be changing my characters outfit every day or any time they go to a different biome (like the ice mountain) XD
my brother does that in Wow
he spends like 140g a day on stupid outfits that he comes up….high
he has this gimp suit that’s hilarious
I’m probably going to end up in the same set of clothing everwhere I go
(Just like real life! XD)
I’ll be spending my hard earned cash on TMs, Vitamins and other useful stuff
Excuse you
Cute clothes are useful uwu
I find customisation one of the most useless features in a game. Unless it actually effects gameplay, I never saw the point.
It’s a role playing game, it’s for immersion. The same reason they let you pick your name :p
Name is just so characters have something to call you by. I wouldn’t care too much if they have me a pre set name. It would make it easier to not have to give my real name when battling people online.
You have to remember you’re not the only player though, there’s tons of people who love to make themselves and their characters in the game. And for them (including me), this is an immensely useful feature.
That’s fair enough. I’m just giving my own opinion on the matter and why those features don’t matter too much to me personally 🙂
Yeah, I know, it’s just that as a whole it’s a beneficial feature because it adds choice
unless you’re a male in Kalos then your stuck with like five options:pNo hat option is awesome since I dont do hats irl usually!
ugh being a male in kalos suckeeddddddd
Thank you!
Ok, let’s remove shinies too.
Yeh, they’re pretty useless.
I once restarted a Game where I had two shinies caught cause I didn’t care about them.
I’m with you, I was glad they add appearance customization since 6th gen and are improving the feature for 7th gen, was so sick of looking like a goddamn clone when doing PVP lol
ditto, TMs, held items and move tutor outrank petty fashion
not in my books, especially considering the male protag is super awkward looking, my female play through it won’t be as important
Me!
I just need to chop all of that awful hair off of my character, and make him blonde and twinky as hell, so apparently nothing like me lol
I’m the opposite, I’ll be my character be me
for better or worseI used to do that but now I more or less make my characters their own stories so they have to have their own look, plus I wish I was a blond haired, blue eyed, adorable twink, but I have like jet black hair and a beard lol
Twinky XD
I will use the team skull attire except for the hat…maybe ill just use their shirt and necklace xD
The males still need longer hair, otherwise I’m going to be really annoyed.
Gonna try to make mine look like Ms Marvel.
Sure she’ll look marvellous
You’re my new favorite forever
Not me, FC seem easy enough to obtain.
The thing is though we only see the character with like 200 at a time and clothes are probably still gonna be expensive if you use FC instead
Looks like I’ll need to get a part time job chucking Pyukumuku then.
Depends how many friends you’ve got and how easy the festival plaza minigames are.
I’m gonna do just like in XY, where I changed my clothes everytime I arrived in a new city or anywhere I could change :v And tried to use clothes that matched the weather. I love how pokémon is turning more and more into an RPG all the time. The more customization the better
I hope they have bucket hats In the hat style options. If they do it will give me life lmao????
Well, they say that you get a lot of money early on so you should enough left for about… 5 potions
only 7 trials? hmmm maybe guzma redeems himself after helping to defeat the aether foundation and becomes the 8th?
Keep dreaming.
*Future Pokemon game in the player’s room*
Oh, it’s a Nintendo Switch that your mom bought you! Would you like to take it on your journey?
-Yes
Hmm seems to be stuck, oh well. Time to get going!
Just watch the next Pokedex and/or appliance be based off the Switch and the PC works by docking the device into a port
That would be neat!
You mean the “Rotom Switch” XD
Should I work half day when the game comes out?
No
he’s right
Take the whole day off
YOU’LL BE LEFT BEHIND
I can make up the time during the week and work 4 hours that day. Lol. I feel if I work full day I won’t have time to play all that
Don’t worry about it. Others will be playing it. You can read up on all the spoilers online.
Only if you’ve got a copy preordered and know you’ll be able to get it on the day without delay.
Hoping Europe screws up and releases it 8 DAYS before release! ?
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“Rotom Dex will show you your Pokédex completion percentage after catching a Pokémon” – This is good
“Shaking grass returns to the games, but its function may differ and there’s a new animation of the wild Pokémon jumping out” – This is interesting
“Ilima’s trial was previewed and featured the player finding Rattata in a cave, after which they were awarded with a Z Crystal” – This sounds boring
“The number of Trials has been confirmed as seven” – This is really disappointing
I do agree that ilimas trial seems boring af but i dont think that seven trials is a bad thing but well have to see
One of the trials is ‘find Rattata in a cave’ and one is ‘find ingredients on the forest floor’, that’s two down right there – I can see this getting boring pretty fast.
Im scared there won’t be enough epic battles…
If the totem battle in the demo is anything to go by, they’ll be over quicker than most trainer battles.
That cant be right though, there being only seven trials. We have 5 officially revealed trail captains but 3 unofficially revealed ones and that makes at least 8 trial captains.
What are the unofficially revealed ones?
the 3 shown at the end of the demo
We don’t know those are trial captains, some of them could be Kahunas or just regular characters.
They were likely kahunas.
Well, other than the ghost girl.
I think the ghost girl was the Kahuna and the other ones were trial captains since the ‘ghost girl’ was dressed in purple and one of the islands is ‘Poni’ (purple) island. The Kahunas tend to be dressed in the colours that match the islands they’re on.
oh true, the poni kahuna could also just be the horse girl also.
Oh those are different people?
I haven’t seen a slowed down version of the trailer yet, I’ve only seen it twice, both times directly on my 3DS 😛
But yeah, I guarantee one of them is the Kahuna of Poni island.
Seeing as they make a huge deal of Olivia being young, I’m tempted to say the other Kahunas are older than her
No, ghost girl had a trial captain emblem.
To quote what I said to Allele “I haven’t seen a slowed down version of the trailer yet, I’ve only seen it twice, both times directly on my 3DS”
I’m just pointing it out. 😛
Nah. The Ghost Girl is a Trial Captain. She use the keychain thing to make a ponytail. rf. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f497300e2948db347c4409640c2957381452342304568187f1182255afd0b3f4.png https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1c30a6c752cd30392973b0abd2322877abb31ddc1c542561d76d17287b69e287.png
Neither of those show she’s a trial captain since none feature that symbol/charm that the confirmed ones wear. It shows she wears a gold arm band, but it doesn’t look the same as what the trial captains have.
Look in her hair. Those are bad images though for it, watch the trailer.
I’m just about to, I had to wait for someone to reply to my request for a link to the trailer.
Did you not read my comment? I said she uses it to make her ponytail.
I just watched thetrailer and it’s very likely but not 100% definite because they never show a clear enough shot of it.
Here’s a better image of it. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/cad6c05957636b52884ff0d79b42a8de78ba5aceb0dd62e372d3f7d1ae973340.png
Imo Mudsdale lady just looks like she owns a ranch
Remember that Kahuna’s seems to consistently wear the colors of their island. Hala wears Yellow, Olivia wears pink, so the remaining Kahuna’s are likely wearing purple and red. While their is that young girl who wears some purple in the trailer, it seems unlikely for her to be a Kahuna given they made a point to say Olivia was young for a Kahuna. Having someone that appears to be a child kind of throws a wrench in that flavor text.
Hmm, never actually noticed that. I saw a theory that said she could be the one in charge of pokeride.
That honestly seems likely as well. We can clearly see she’s on Poni island(and has a horse on it, so good pun GF), so its a hard call. I would say she’s either a trial captain and her symbol is simply hidden off screen, or she is just a special NPC.
Aside from the girl in rags, we don’t know if they are Trial Captains.
Can we just commemorate how much of an improvement and how amazing the battle models look? These girls are hawt. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ab2d53fd131ae1813e3857a7f076a36406c0497f531d54c47cb6368f0dc5efe4.png https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5e4cd88140f939791b0587323ee232bca8909e6258890ae268138c81653f0e73.png
Huh, the female backpacker looks almost exactly like her BW counterpart
UNOVA CONFIRMED!?!?!?
Well they are both based on places in the US
OMG female backpacker!!! Maybe that means we will finally get a male Fairy Tale Boy or a Hex maniac male!
Not necessarily, backpackers were introduced in Generation V and came in male and female varieties.
oh shiz you’re correct, I was thinking of the hiker
I still kinda want gender counterparts of every class but it seems like a pipe dream 😡
same!!
Even furisode girls? XD
yes
“Furisode are the most formal style of kimono worn by young unmarried women in Japan.”
ok… but they can still have a male counterpart, obviously I’m not saying they have to be wearing the same thing -_- why do you treat people like they are idiots
What would they wear though?
They couldn’t wear furisodes.
oh my god did you not read my comment?
They can wear whatever they want as long as they specialize in the same kind of pokemon, thats what makes them counterparts…
i’m honestly not surprised about the trial things
they game will probably do an arm and leg’s worth of stuff for the trials
all i want is a Rockruff to come from Shaking Grass
Where in the footage was seven Trial Captains confirmed? So far, we know about six Trial Captains:
Ilima
Lana
Mallow
Sophocles
Kiawe
That Ghost Girl from the Demo Trailer
I wonder where we will get the rest of the Z-Crystals.
Well, we can guess the Fightium comes from Hala and the Rockium comes from Olivia
Probably lying on the ground scattered around Alola
I doubt it tbh, unlike Mega Stones which were deliberately a hunt except the Kanto Starters and Lucario (Both likely for demonstration reasons) there seems to be an importance set on earning Z-Crystals, as eleven will be coming from trials and grand trials.
Tbh I feel some will be coming from side quests
There is also that horse girl and the pelican submarine dude. It doesn’t quite add up the number of trial captains, which is strange.
Neither of them are confirmed trial captains?
Their either just important NPCs or Kahunas. They are not Trial Captains as they do not have the keychain/badge on them.
oh true good point
They may be kahunas
Let me think about this for a second.
7 Trial Captains
4 Kahunas
1 Guzma
1 Lusamine
4 E4 equivalent
1 Champion
That’s my theory at least
I mean I guess Guzma could give us Bug or Poison, but what would Lusamine give us? Tbh I feel if she’s battleable Tsareena and Milotic are obvious choices, neither of which shares a type.
Maybe fairy since its traditionally feminine, or steel since she’s based on technology that Aether has?
Maybe Guzma and Plumeria then?
I don’t think the ghost girl is confirmed as a trial captain. It does look like she is wearing something that is yellow on her head and arm and that could be the emblem that signifies she is a trial captain but I can’t really see it that well. They do give her some screen time in the trailer so she must be important-probably is the trial captain.
Upvotes for remaining noting potential evidence but remaining sceptical.
As I posted below, here’s a better image. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/cad6c05957636b52884ff0d79b42a8de78ba5aceb0dd62e372d3f7d1ae973340.png
It seems obvious to me. I don’t understand why it’s being questioned.
you can literally see the trail captain emblem in her hair clear as day, so I agree
Because there’s still no clear shot of it, every single one is from an angle because the trailer never fully shows it, only parts of it. It can still be refuted/explained by other means.
Plus it matches the big band on her arm, which seems a bit odd.
So it’s “likely but not definite”.
The badge is essentially a quatrefoil with a thin border of a lighter color and with the North sector matching the color of the trainer’s specialty. All of this is clearly visible in the screenshot that libra posted.
Thanks, yea it is definite that she is a trial captain. Now I am curious as to where on the map she is located.
Anyone know where I can get a full video of the trailer from the demo?
(Preferably just the demo on its own, without talking or anything)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvrkhN3giKs
here you go
Annoyed because it’s gamexplain, but thank you anyway 😛
I’m curious to ask why exactly? Their effectively a gaming news channel at this point.
they’ve done nothing but above and beyond satisfactory up to date information
I don’t like any youtube channels that are trying to analyse the stuff or make their own theories, I just want the original, unadorned footage so I can make my own conclusions.
They usually put out just the video for anybody who missed it, then analyze it later on in a different video
Dunno how anyone can miss any of the trailers that are on the official channels though. This one is the only exception because it hasn’t been posted on the original channels yet.
sometimes some wads don’t even go to official sites for new info, they wait for others to post about it
Society is slowly crumbling.
When Gen8 arrives, if they post videos like they have this year, I’m going to start reposting them until I have a following and then post a couple of fake ones as a joke and see who notices
So you don’t like speculation? Alright, to each their own. Again I would mention that they generally make it clear what is analysis, a simple discussion and what is purely the trailer posted on their channel for those who are unable to easily find it, much like other news sources do. But again each their own.
I didn’t say I don’t like speculation, I just don’t like watching videos of youtube people trying to speculate.
I like the speculation here on Pokejungle, but not the youtube stuff. I don’t have the time to sit through an 8 minute video full of pauses when they could just post it as a nice block of text readable in 3 minutes.
I also don’t like them sticking their branding all over the trailers, I’d rather it were unadorned. If the demo trailer were on the official Pokemon channel I’d watch it there instead.
that’s a dumb thing to think and they rarely make theories their own but honestly its a theory its not a promise its a hypothesis
It’s still a waste of time sitting there listening to them ramble on. If they just left a transcript somewhere then I might read it, but I cba to sit though some 8 minute video of people saying something I could easily read in 2-3 minutes.
well boo on you i am a loyal supported of Gamexplain
Call me when they write articles with their analysis instead of posting videos.
This is literally plain footage though. 😛
I know, but by watching it I’m effectively supporting the channel because they get paid by the number of viewers/upvotes/whatever.
And it’s not plain, they adorned their logo on it which means their logo will be on all my screencaps.
Okay, so if you guys were in the Pokémon world, where do you think you’d live and what starter Pokémon would you get? Keep in mind it can be any reasonable Pokémon as long as it has a backstory (the traditional ‘oh professor gave it to me’ to ‘my family caught it for me’, etc).
Unova Region
maybe Nuvema Town
but as for a Starter i actually went to Kanto for my birthday to my Aunt who gave me a newborn Rhyhorn calf
Out of curiousity, would you name the Rhyhorn or nah?
nope
I would start out in a house in Johto, Ekruteak to be exact, and instead of looking to become the pokemon champion I would dream of being a pokemon researcher who specializes in the identification and classification of fairy types. I became fastinated in the type when it was first discovered by a notable pokemon researcher in Kalos a few years before my journey. The researcher held a competition in Pokemon Today Magazine that would bring someone to study under him provided they could share their own findings on what makes the fairy type truly unique. When I won I traveled to Laverre City where he presented me with my first pokemon to help me in the field as we did our research. My trusty Swirlix named Puff. We would eventually branch out and continue the researchers line of work traveling to many different regions in his stead. This fall our journey would take us to a distant and tropical region where fairies seem to be thriving.
Might as well add mine:
I’d start in Sinnoh (Celestic Town), but would’ve moved from Alola due to the rumors about Ultra Beasts before I would’ve started the island trials. I’d of gotten Popplio at that point, and then I’d head off for adventure in the Sinnoh region to try and become a Fairy-Type Gym Leader.
Maybe our characters will meet and I’ll battle your gym for research purposes! lol, oh the land of make believe is a wonderful place
We should totally collab a story for that when we both have free time e-e
that would be cool, although I work two jobs LOL
Yeah, it’d be a miracle if it happened because I have school and homework has been an absolute bugger as of late
But it’d be so worth it!
Jhoto. Not a major city or town, but out away from people.
On my way to get a proper starter I came across a Yanma that was smaller than the others I had seen.
It was a runt and could barely hover, but the way it wobbled mid-air was adorable and I became attached to him.
I befriended him with some berries and later bought a ball for him.
Undella Town in Unova. Near the sea, just like where i’d want to be.
Lapras, met it on the Beach and nursed it to health.
7 Trials.
Normal (Illima), Electric (Sophacles), Water (Lana), Grass (Mallow), Fire (Kaiwe), Ghost (Ghost Girl from Trailer), Dragon (Unknown) as shown by the 6 Totem sprites +Wishwashi school form .
4 Kahunas.
Fighting (Hala), Rock (Olivia), Ground (Woman with the Mudsdale in trailer), Flying (Unless they repeat Water, Guy with the Wingull)
Man it seems they’ve screwed Dark over again.
However, I feel theres a Central Person, a Champion Figure. If it’s a Royal Figure, then maybe Alolan Meowths existence points that they’re a Dark Type user, though probably not.
Small issue. The man on the restaurant ship isn’t likely a Kahuna. Not only is he on the same island as the purple girl, who isn’t likely a Kahuna as well, but he isn’t wearing any of the colors of the Kahuna’s. If he were one, he’d be dressed in Purple or Red, not blue. So that Kahuna still remains a mystery.
Also remember that one golfer mentioned in the demo. Her name is literally that of Hawaiian royalty. We have dark meowth’s that came from the Alolan royalty. If their is going to be a dark specialist, she’s are safest bet, and could be our missing trial captain.
Unless the guy with the Pelliper is the Dragon Trial Captain, then he’s either a Kahuna or maybe the Champion character, we do tend to meet them before fighting them. However if he’s the champion Character then that means the Royal Girl isn’t. So either he’s a Kahuna, or the Dragon, or Fighting tbh, Trial Captain. Though if he is a Trial Captain, why a Pelliper? Maybe cause he seems to be some sort of captain, but even then. That’s WHY I said Kahuna, though yes now I notice it, the colour thing points against that. So perhaps he’s none, and just a guy with a Pelliper.
Seeing as Hala most likely specialises in Fighting, I doubt he’d a Fighting Kahuna tbh
Yes, so the final trial would most likely be Dragon.
What makes you think it’s dragon?
I still think the guy with a Pelipper is just some random ship captain.
same
Kommo-o is a Dragon type and Fighting is already taken by Hala. Given we know that those blank spaces ARE Totem sprites despite people thinking otherwise, as shown by Raticate, the final Trial is Dragon.
How and why do we ‘know’?
Raticate has one, and the next Pokemon is Spearow, they’re right next to each other in the Pokedex, so it CAN’T be another Pokemon, and we KNOW it’s a Totem, based on that we can determine the rest, and what do you know, the ones we know are Totems already have one after them, so then we can determine the rest. Wishiwashi doesn’t have one and that’ can be explained, it’s School Form. It makes perfect sense. They also match up with the known Trial Captains.
The only Mystery is Zygardes, it’s either it’s Cell and Core, which have now been found as Items, OR it’s some sort of Boss Totem.
He clearly isn’t a fighting specialist given that Hala’s a fighting specialist. As well he’s clearly not a Kahuna given he’s not wearing the colors of a Kahuna. Could be be a dragon captain, yes maybe, but we don’t know. As for the Pelliper, maybe its just in their for effect. He’s standing up on a high place, so having a bird swoop by is good cinematography. It gives more life to the scene.
And I’ve changed it after you pointed it out.
Pelipper, not Wingull 😛
Thanks.
i feel like the woman with mudsdale is a trial captain
I feel like she’s just going to be the character that gives you the mudsdale ride feature
oh that too
From the leaks we know Theres no Ground Totem Pokemon
Did the leaks actually confirm the totem Pokemon at all?
Last I checked they didn’t find out much about the totems.
Only the Dex Sprites missing. Yes it’s odd for that but, how else do you explain the one between Raticate and Spearow. And the others we can determine that they are based on the ones we know.
So we have Raticate/Gumshoos (Confirmed), each have that space, so going by that we also have. Normal
Vikavolt (Was shown early on too) Electric
Lurantis Grass (Also was shown)
Salandit Evo Fire
Mimikyu Ghost , maybe fairy but the girl screams ghost to me tbh
Kommo-o Dragon most likely.
In addition to this Wishiwashi’s School form (Negating the need to be a Totem) was shown as one of the Trials, the Water one.
http://imgur.com/gallery/5C8ry
I think there’s got to be more than just 6 totems though. Plus there’s no water totem shown.
They literally just explained the lack of a water Totem: Wishiwashi’s school form size negates the need for a separate model, as its already big to the point it won’t need a bigger model.
Different sizes wouldn’t need different models anyway, they can just scale the regular models as required. There has to be something else that would warrant having separate Pokedex stills for Totems.
Wouldn’t scaling lead to issues with the detailed the details on the Pokémon’s body though?
Not necissarily. It might mean you need textures with more detail to prevent detail degredation if it were scaled significantly enough, but colour interpolation should be sufficient for a small upscale.
Otherwise, scaling a model is as simple as changing a few numbers.
That’s the big mystery, it’s almost a certainty those Models are Totems, I’ve already explained why, so the big question is, why?
And why does Zygarde have 2 missing between after it’s 50% 10% and before 100%, and why were they there, when other Pokemons forms weren’t?
The more I think about it the more I’m convinced the Pokedex stills were left there on purpose. There’s just too much that doesn’t add up for them to have not attempted to remove some of the data.
We’ll we’ll see if thursdays news gives us anything new or helps us figure out based on the rest of what we can determine.
I feel it might show a couple of the leaked pokemon, which is good because I really want to know typings. Typings seems an odd thing to not have been found tbh.
Yeah, I knew I was forgetting something else.
I’ve explained that already. It makes sense to me that Wishiwashi’s School form negates the need for that. We’ve seen it in one of the trailers. So adding 2+2, it’s the only thing that makes sense to me. At this point.
Regular Wishiwashi would need one though, School Form Wishiwashi turns back to normal when its health gets low.
That would mean there are three images not shown on that image: Totem Wishiwashi, Wishiwashi SF and Totem Wishiwashi SF.
It’s possible in order to make the fight harder Wishiwashi will remain in its school form throughout. It’s as simple as starting the fight as Wishiwashi School Form and give it a different ability (for example, illuminate to balance it out)
It’s possible, but that doesn’t explain why alternate forms weren’t found in the Pokedex stills for Wishiwashi or Mimikyu, yet they were for Zygarde.
It’s possible it wasn’t found. But Wishiwashi is certainly the “Missing” Totem. And so theres not really issue. Either, it’s not a Totem on account of it’s School form, or it’s Totem sprites are missing, you can think whichever till we find out in a months time.
supposedly the guy with the Pelipper is the veteran trainer class.
That’s interesting
I know it’s just hopeful thinking, but what if the last trial is to organize a sort of league by asking the other Trial Captains if they would like to act as Gym Leaders? Organizing a league was part of a certain set if leaks if I recall correctly, and it would also add another layer of plot to the games.
Yeah it was part of some leaks, that would be so cool, but it’s extremely unlikely.
but there is only 7 so why bother asking them? If there was going to be one for each type like we thought at first thats what I was thinking would happen
Well Kukui and Guzma both tried to become Captains, so maybe they’d be eligible? I don’t know- I hadn’t thought this through. :p
Maybe and maybe Plumeria could be the poison one
Thinking more about it, The five trial captains introduced can be put all the in same age range. This can also confirms the theory of ghost girl because she could fit the same age range. Meaning that the other two are either important NPC or kahunas.
I’d categorize Mudsdale girl in that age group as well, even though I doubt she a Captain.
The Pelipper man seems to be a ordinary NPC (unless he pops up in two locations) I’ve seen him before in a another trailer but i cant remember
I think the Pelipper guy is just a regular NPC (rf)
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/988cc7c16bca4b8a046e775bb939ede6a9b1b049f5256c62d6665cf5e6260ac8.png https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/495deb37270556b587f90fb6710319be7c5cdfb58659a56f0080504b521aa44a.png
Possible, or a ship captain who took you there.
hm seems more like a veteran because the same clothing colors as the woman next to him
Oh ,an Double/Tag Battles returning would be great, that’s not always a certainty
maybe the NPC explains a gameplay element
If I remember right this is near the Big Tree right?
yea
If we go on the idea that it’s based on the World Tree it’s possible it’s related to Zygarde. A Shrine?
It could be post game, he might explain theres something in there, wouldn’t it be cool if it was Xerneas or Yveltal, depending on the version, but only if you have Zygarde with you.
Ok somebody else notice that …..I said that many time but I don’t think it’s regular NPC maybe his wife is not regular too.
That’s what I was saying. I knew we’ve seen him before. He’s just an NPC and likely the Ship Captain.
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-462462737 @PrinceFae:disqus team is honestly iconic. People really underestimate girafarig
ICONIC lol https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4f7c024402f71ab72c314bc5dae24efc7fbf9e0a1437980c10e3a6324e7e37b3.gif
i love fraud and robbery
i still don’t believe that stupid long neck managed to hit so hard
max attack choice band, plus people do not know about sap sipper so i get that extra attack boost
never in a million years I would thought that a girafarig (one of my fav pokemon) would come through on my team,
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-462462737
you literally just posted this fight
oops, it didnt copy http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-462468805
its one of my favs too, it can be really awesome to use
is an amazing counter to serperior.
There might be trial captains for other types in the post game.
Well, in real life Hawaii does have more than 4 islands, and the file size double X/Yish must mean something right?
A lot of it is probably traceable to the graphics upgrade, but post game islands definitely wouldn’t be completely unfounded imo
But if Masuda says they’ve put a lot of time and effort in the post-game, its not just the graphics update.
A good post game could easily just be on the five islands (four plus Aether Paradise) with a different narrative(s), though
And what about the demo leaks only having maps for four islands?
You said it yourself, it’s possible not everything is there.
True. I’m not anticipating more than two unknown islands.
And then there’s that question of the fifth island.
Gameplay Footage [Part 2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Mi-f8J_WLg
These japanese guys are annoying yaaaaaaoooh yaaaa aaaaawww ooooooohhh
To befair I find them more bearable than most the the Americans that commentate their playthroughs of games.
Both are annoying.
Anyone who exaggerates with his reactions is crazy or stupid
Culture difference hun.
Just curious, does anyone know what move Litten learned after Alola Raticate was defeated?
Edited: because autocorrect changed was to aaa for some reason.
Tell me a timepoint and I’ll translate.
Thanks. It was at 23:20, Litten was learning a fire move with 15 pp-at least that is what I think based on the format (4 moves and a fifth move which is a little bit stretched to the left at the bottom).
It’s Fire fang (ほのおのキバ honoo no kiba).
The 4 other moves:
-Ember (ひのこ hinoko)
-Growl (なきごえ nakigoe)
-Lick (したでなめる shita de nameru)
-Leer (にらみつける niramitsukeru)
P.S. being able to read Katakana and Hiragana is really handy 😀
Thanks for the rest, are the moves written in both Katakana and Hiragana?
In this case they’re all hiragana (with the exception of Fire Fang where ‘kiba’ is in katakana), but there are moves written in katakana.
Katakana tends to be easier becuase it’s usually used for moves that are basically just English words.
I hope I will reach this level soon.
This is the book I used to memorise them:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/15-Minute-Japanese-Minutes-Eyewitness-Language/dp/1405315180
There’s a full katakana and hiragana table in the back, as well as a menu and a glossary.
Fire fang …maybe.
To erase any further doubt: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5f4e0c282231b74dcff2ae5f82f9e67db35d841777b041b3597bd79e1735a43f.png
certain people will still not believe you, some people are stubborn
Yea I may have came off as one of those people, but I didn’t see the image Libra posted earlier on and was going off of Gamexplain’s demo trailer. I should have scrolled down a bit and caught up with the conversation before giving my input. Nevertheless, thanks for the helpful image.
I didn’t mean you, its all good, I just meant in general, everyone should be at least a little skeptical
Exactly. Even with proof, we’ll always have non-believers.
so you thinks theres more? or just 7 im lost
Its basically been confirmed that its 7, unless their some sort of post game trials.
speaking of Z-moves, to use a z move does the pokemon needs to hold the z-crystal?
Yes. They need to hold it,
bless. I dont think they going to make a huge impact in competitive then.
Yeah. Especially if we find out that they can’t break through protect. At that point their all but useless since using one effectively requires some cleaver mindgames that most players won’t invest in.
I’m 70% convinced the demo leaks don’t cover everything.
-No map of Aether Paradise
-No ‘Pokedex stills’ of alt-forms (except Zygarde)
-Pokedex stills but no models or textures (unless the hackers have been holding out on us)
I just expect post game map and a little left Alolan.
Imagine thinking the dataminers got everything
They’ve had plenty of time to find these things if they’re there, 5 days is a long time 😛
@Evil Cilan:disqus Just reminded me there were also no stats or typings for Pokemon (presumably other than those featured in the game).
So either GF have definately tried to trim stuff out or the hackers haven’t been forthcoming with everything they found.
not to mention in the supposed leaked alola dex there isn’t even enough poison types for Plumeria to have a poison based full team, there are only like 5 lines (not that this really means anything I’m just mad) but like still I expected her to at least get a Scolipede
6 Lines.
1)Zubat Line,
2)Tentacool,
3)Grimer,
4)Ghastly,
5)Trubbish,
6)Salandit.
That’s enough for a full Poison team though limited on Pokemon I admit.
I literally skipped right over trubbish and Tentacool, thanks
GF removed Kalos from the demo
Guys, were the HA abilities for the Kalos starters released with the game or afterwards like Gen 5 and 3???
yes, post game via friend safari
The moment the game was hacked 😀
The Plumeria dream team:
Salandit2
Alolan Muk
Crobat
Scolipede
Dustox
Ariados (although Guzma has one so maybe not)
Replace Ariados with Beedrill maybe
Emphasis on “dream”. We may be past the days where it is possible for an admin to have a full team of 6 Pokémon. I think we might be lucky if Guzma even has 6 Pokémon in the final battle with him (or 5 Pokémon and an Ultra Beast).
Oh yeah deff meant literally a dream team… curious though as to why you think trainers would have Ultra Beasts? I dont think they can really be tamed by anyone or willing to do the bidding of anyone
I find it to be a stretch as well but considering how Guzma is the leader of Team Skull I would expect him to have a strong team. Considering how few new Pokémon there are, there is strong speculation that Kommo-o (the likely pseudo-legendary at this point) is a totem Pokémon, and that Gamefreak might want to give him a unique strong Pokémon. They could always give him an old Pokémon as his main one (like Garchomp) but I feel that would be a bit repitive since that is already Cynthia’s main. My guess is that he may have stolen one of those special Pokeballs that catch Ultra Beasts and then used it to catch one.
I just noticed Slowpoke! It just dawned on me! Slowking!!!! <3
……um what? 😛
😛 Random excitement. I love Slowpoke.
:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
ME TOOO!!!!
😀 Yesssss!
Slowking is also my fav of the two evos I used to be like obsessed with it back in the day but never knew how to get it in pokemon Silver (way back before the internet was popular)
Slowking is tied at 1st for my favorite Pokémon. (Sableye being the other.)
Slowpoke in general is one of my fav non-fairy pokemon. I so wish they would bring back split evolutions they were some of the best, Politoad, slowking, the tyrouge line, clampearl. When they revealed fairy type I was secretly hoping slowpoke would get a fairy branch that was like a manatee like this design here https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/871162ae9028223203fddb06fe5541d97187686e70667207afd7367fd6e39b8e.png
Well, the thing is Slowpoke is theorized to be so intelligent he can’t process it. So losing it’s psychic typing would be kind of disappointing. How about when pokemon adds third types to the game? XD
I don’t want to see the day they add 3 typings, seems like it would be way too confusing
😛 I know, but I feel it’s going to happen one day.
it technically already happened in the manga with the legendary bird trio fusing
Wait… what!? O.o
Nvm it doesn’t specifically say they are triple typing
*Realizes he must read pokemon manga*
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Thu-Fi-Zer
My litten 3 dream stats
95 HP
115 Atk
85 Def
75 Spa
75 Spd
90 Spe
Total 535
HA Sheer Force
Would be my all time favourite pokemon
kinda mediocre Infernape is basically the same stat build
It’s a realistic dream I guess
Try this link torch://player/1477189836455.webm
Not working shady
copy the link.
torch://player/1477189836455.webm Not working :/
Dam, still working for me u don’t have torch browser right?
I’m using my iPhone
Isn’t that a deep-web link?
Unfortunately it looks kinda mixer with good speed ….not that bad though look at these stats. http://is.4chan.org/vp/1477232392097.jpg
That’s only litten, wait till it evolves
Usually evolution not break the pattern.
True, but there is still hope it turns out like the Emboar Tepig Situation he suddenly gained sp atk
Actually I need different fire starter pattern.
You know, I’m really impressed with how GF is handling Trial Captains this generation. For the first time ever, they might actually play a significant role in the plot, since they can be seen meeting the trainer before their initial battle (Mallow, Olivia, Ilima). It also seems that we finally have a villainous team that follows through the entire game, as well as another potential team, Ultra Beasts, the Zygarde quests, the Tapu legendaries and Solgaleo/Lunala… these games are gonna have one hell of a plot.
Story is always what makes or breaks the games tbh
Was going so well until ‘Ultra Beasts’, then I had to take 5 minutes to gently weep. 😛
The possibility of there being “wormholes” and alternate dimensions as a result of these Ultra Beasts might be interesting, kinda like the Distortion World in D/P/Pt. It’ll be interesting to see how they play out.
I dunno, I think that’s going a bit too far into scifi territory. Go too far with that and soon we’ll be having spaghetti timelines and genesis wave style retcons.
Well thanks to OR/AS confirming alternate timelines, which were obvious if you think about it, only way to make everything canon, plus every game card is a seperate universe following the same basic structure.
I feel it’s related to Infinity Energy, remember that, in OR/AS we were told it was powerful enough to blast holes to other dimensions/Universes.
The whole UB thing screams of creatures coming to our world by some mean then been tricked into doing someones bidding while that someone plays innocent.
It wouldn’t have been the only way to make everything cannon. Most things would have fit into a single timeline until ORAS did the whole ‘Meteor not volcano’ thing to Sootopolis.
Not every game is a separate universe, some explicitly state they follow each other, like B2W2 being set a few years after BW.
Think of it like this.
Seperate Universes, that follow the same basic timeline and story with minor to major differences. And that is every Game Card as well as every game.
That way contradictions in later games can just be explained away, and both versions can be Canon.
I’m not sure how to explain it more clearly.
If they’re writing things properly there shouldn’t be any contradictions, they should be able to just explain all the changes to the regions from remakes etc via the passage of time or by things happening concurrently.
The biggest Contradictions would be new types. That’s one thing you can’t explain away properly even with good writing.
But makes sense if you consider it a different universe.
So in some Universes Clefairy is a Normal type, and others, it’s Fairy
I mean you can still explain that too, they probably didn’t know how to define a fairy until then, same with the pokemon that got steel type in generation 2
Even then I was thinking more about type Matchups. Specially when normal types that became fairy used to be weak to fighting but are now super effective against it, that’s not as easily explained, at least a satisfying one
ok but you cant omit the steel types to this, thats my problem people seem to single out the fairy type forgetting it wasn’t the first type to retcon pokemon
It’s the most recent. That’s why I used it as an example. But yes Magnemite and Magneton fits this too.
That’s slightly different, but it’s the only thing that’s really required a retcon. They shouldn’t have waited until Gen6 to add Fairy though tbh
Aside from that pretty much everything else could have been side by side or linear (up until ORAS).
Yeah, I like to think about this alot though. Like 2 versions of the same game certainly aren’t exactly the same, not because of the story, but because of the player and their actions. I think too deeply into things that weren’t meant to be.
Two versions of the same game can be rationalised as the same thing. Details like exclusive Pokemon don’t change the plot, and games like Emerald and Platinum show how two versions can be rationalised into one lore.
I’d say too literally rather than too deeply.
In the end as theres no confirmation 1 way or the other we can think of it how we like tbh.
what if a while after the dataminers started decrypting the demo GF contacted them and instead of cease and desist, they bribed them to cut short the exposition?
I don’t think GF would do bribes they have been pretty intimidating to the leakers in the past
A cease and desist on the other hand would just result in a hundred more hackers working harder than ever as the demo became public
I would have thought they’d reach for a cease and desist order first.
I was kinda hoping that other Gen Pokemon would get Alolan forms. I mean, it’s about celebrating 20 years not just Gen 1. I know the reasons before people tell me, but I feel it’s one big missed opportunity.
For example, Johto Starters, in a Similair way to Kalos had the Kanto Starters. Like, nothing radical just, their types being switched with each other or being given another trio of types that effect each other.
But what’s very sad is Gen 5 didn’t get much Mega Love either, just Audino and even then I feel that’s cause they forgot to give it Fairy normally. So Alolan forms were certainly their chance, though Gen 5 Pokemon seem more thought out tbh, I can’t think of any that would suit a Alolan form tbh.
Honestly Mega audino could have just as easily been an evolution, it looks way better than the original
Most of us had, but by the third or fourth Pokemon it was obvious that’s what they were doing.
I’m not disappointed about megas though, I’m glad they’re abandonning those in favour of Z moves.
I was going to abandon my side project of trying to identify the locations on the map, but the trailer from the demo just proved that there definately is more to that mansion than I thought there would be and I can pinpoint that ranch town so I’m going to be updating my map analysis 😛
Remember in OR/AS Delta Episode we learnt the Infinity Energy could be used to transport things to other Dimensions?
Doesn’t that seem related to UB’s to anyone?
Pretty sure the Infinity Energy backstory isn’t finished with, specially if Z Stones are related too.
illuminati confirmed
Seriously though very clever I would have never thought this
This thought just popped up in my noggin’. How would the move Hidden Power work with Z-moves? Would only the normal one work with it, or would all of the general 18 types of Z-moves?
oh i SWEAR if they let that go i’m boycotting Z-Moves
Isn’t it considered a normal move in its natural state? I feel that it will stay that way, but who knows?
Only Normal, if at all.
Technically it’s a Normal type move capable of doing individually typed damage.
Has anyone brought up the map in the Police Station? It shows five islands, indicating that the small far-west one has some significance at least. I wonder what will be there. Maybe some post-game Battle Frontier or League?
The one at the back of the room?
Yeah. It shows the four main island in green, and the fifth in brown.
Pretty sure that’s not an island, it’s probably a logo.
It’s small, so I could be wrong, but I think it’s the island shown in the official map art. It appears to be accessable at the very least because there is a dock-like protrusion on the official art.
It’s too large for the small islet in the official map.
I’m pretty sure it’s part of the south west island but imgur is currently playing up so I can’t check the images I’ve got stored there.
Imgur decided to work, so I found it.
I was right.
http://i.imgur.com/tKdeAKp.jpg
Could be the Poke Pelago though
That’s the top right, not the bottom left.
We know where the Pokepelago is because of the big sprout from Isle Abeens.
I could wait till december for the S M
But what I dying to know about is base stats, abilities, types, new moves and their powers
I hope we get a base stat boost like XY (Primeape)
Somebody shoot this fool
December? that’s excessively long!!!
I found out that I am more excited for the gen 7 showdown update
….o.k this validates a legal certificate of cold blood murder
the last thing i want is regular competitive just reclaiming its already repetitive uninspired stakes not for at least 2 months
because i rather see people come up with new strategies not just use the same stuff over and over again
Life orb Sheer force, anyone??
that’s barely news
i’m talking about the same 15 things everyone’s been overusing for the last…..2-3 years now
I don’t mind any of that I just want to sweep Uber teams with my Dragon dancing, life orb, sheer force, baton passing teams over and over again but this time using new pokemon x)
so my demo decided it wanted to work properly and start counting down again, not that there are any more rewards or things to do lol.
Today’s event was disappointing.
Disappointing is an understatement.
when she comes back she says the beach was great, like is she the chick that lets you see Alolan dug trio? were we supposed to follow her??
I have no idea! O.o
all of the remaining events are disappointing.
What do you mean? A Pikachu party is the best thing I could ask for.
https://m.popkey.co/e5a4e6/jw4Oo.gif?c=popkey-web&p=popkey&i=happybirthday-events&l=direct&f=.gif
Really? Is there any battles at least?
no, all of them are little scenes that don’t lead to anything. I think the last event gives you a comet shard, but there’s no more gameplay
Ew.
The Oras demo was the same though wasn’t it?
I’m not sure, I didn’t keep up with the ORAS demo after the first event.
If there are items, they aren’t disappointing. If there aren’t items, they are.
Gameplay>a few bucks on the main game
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/178e24271439c28f70ee98851f15ac531c31bba8095859c5153e6716165b108c.gif
It’s a demo, you can’t expect that much gameplay tbh
I agree, I think the events should have been there for lil extras for people who are dedicated to the franchise and follow the demo. But just little scenes of… fluff(?) seems kind of superfluous.
Tbh I get the impression they probably put less effort in this time because too many people complained about the ORAS demo.
I do remember the demo for ORAS being… unremarkable.
I remember the ORAS demo as having great music if nothing else. I see that part carried over to this demo at least.
It let us visit loads of the small islands and I’m pretty sure you could continually battle trainers. There was probably a fair bit of effort that went in to putting it together and Steven had a fair bit of dialogue.
With the backlash, GF probably decided to cut back on the effort in anticipation of yet more people complaining about what was missing instead of appreciating what was there.
Cute little fakemon I found on Reddit
https://i.reddituploads.com/2eb2027876e44adc997104ba2f8c7c7e?fit=max&h=1536&w=1536&s=b0d551e22689fbf30c6c26779d2a6f69
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/58y3r4/pok%C3%A9mon_i_made_on_mii_verse_a_long_time_ago/
Not too bad.
Making the bead necklace say ‘water’ though is a bit excessive.
It loooks like my mom’s evil dog. ?
Tank top based on Lycanroc midnight form. I WANT IT BADLY!! (rf) https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c4e24114e436e57479d0132a7838510aab19824c76a47b60b701eb2de54bd152.png
What is this from? I haven’t seen it.
Ehm it was on my Twitter TL. Somebody RTed a Japanese account
I’m just hyped over this Gothitelle shirt
http://i.imgur.com/k5vUwDo.png
I’m most excited for the shirt with the Pikachu surfing on a rainbow.
oh wow look at Gothita tee and them girafarig print sneakers #fashion
So many fashion choices it seems. I’m so hyped!
Steal his Look:
Carrera Sunglasses – $250
Pokemon x Fear of God Tank Top – $300
rag and bone Distressed Jeans – $180
Oh my gosh he looks fierce, fresh and ready to fight
https://twitter.com/RealShigeruM/status/790215814095966211
https://twitter.com/RealShigeruM/status/790216548866719749
It bugs me to no end that Pikachu says its name. What if your pet walked up to you one day and just screamed “DOG”
Pikachu is cute tho
So is my dog
But can your dog shoot electricity from its cheeks?
Yes.
I’ve met a parrot that can say “I’m a parrot”
…
ok good point
Parrots imitate, don’t they? Say Pikachu is only imitating humans who call it Pikachu. Why then can’t Raichu say its name (or Pikachu for that matter)?
(It did in the anime to be fair.)
For in game rationalisation: Pikachu’s cry was changed later, so it’s plausible they learnt to say their name but when they evolve to Raichu they can’t manipulate their voice box in the same way because they aren’t used to the changes.
That or it just looses that ability upon evolution because of random changes to its voicebox as a result of the evolution. After all, if a Pokemon’s voice box didn’t change after evolution then their cries wouldn’t change either.
In the anime, Raichu says “Lai lai”
It’s ‘rai’, that’s just how the Japanese pronounce their Rs 😛
(And they can say it in full.)
Lol. I was kidding
It’s hard to tell somedays, there are some crazy people out there 😛
I actually would laugh my ass off, not gonna lie that would be amazing
But I don’t like that pikachu does that
It would be weird because my pet’s not a dog.
EXACTLY
Maybe its name came from the sound it makes?
TBH pikachu saying it’s name is one of the rare examples I can tolerate, though I prefer the squeaky version we got in generations. It actually sounds like something an animal-like creature can fathomably say. I’m really happy that pokémon saying their names is something confined to the anime canon though (as confirmed by Masuda in one of those interviews they did recently), because it’s just moronic and cringy, and exactly the sort of thing that makes you understand why people would call pokémon childish. It’s kinda annoying in-game dialogue confusingly expresses pokémon cries as their names, but I guess you can rationalise it as the cries sounding somewhat vaguely similar to the names in-universe.
https://twitter.com/RealShigeruM/status/790206159198224384
https://twitter.com/RealShigeruM/status/790258997840392192
Purposely left that one for you to do 😛
I can’t resist posting Steven Universe whenever I can
Sorry Pharap I’m stealing your game here
https://twitter.com/RealShigeruM/status/790228798776217600
http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/80/590x/Grumpy-Cat-on-bed-544409.jpg
Nice job on your new avatar. Especially the hands…. Like.. hands are so hard to draw. Great job with those.
Thank you! Drawing hands is just a matter of luck. Did it turn out good? No? Undo and try again. Do they look good now? Ok good now copy, paste and flip that shit because you are not going to be able to do that again.
Exactly! (Unless it’s an art project and you’re drawing someone)
In that case you are just doomed 😛
https://mobile.twitter.com/RealShigeruM/status/790266547562541057/photo/1
Slowly updating my analyses of the map based on the demo trailer and a more hi-res version of the map. https://disqus.com/home/channel/thepokemonlab/discussion/channel-thepokemonlab/northeast_island/
I found an absolutely massive version of the official map, it’s about 14000×10000.
I’m glad you haven’t quit working on this. I enjoy perusing the maps and analyses that you have in such an organized manner. I’ve yet to see anyone else accomplish this so well.
Thanks.
I try as much as I can to stick to existing evidence and to not make too many assumptions (e.g. I haven’t gone into any of the theories about the large tree on the south west island).
If there’s more stuff in the next trailer I might as well add that in if there are definately still people who visit.
Have you updated Melemele with locations revealed in the demo itself?
Not yet. So far I’ve only done the NorthEast island, I’m currently doing the SouthEast island, so I’ll do Melemele after that.
Wow, this is great! Makes me even more excited about what is to come, and it really goes to show that the region isn’t as small as some speculated.
people thought it was small? O_O
Well people thought that Mele Mele was the only island at first so
That’s precisely why I started this side project.
People got so focused on the Pokemon and the story that much of the region itself has been forgotten about.
If my little side project has made just one person appreciate just how little we know about the region, that’s good enough for me 😛
so i and many others were right about the amount of trails?
My guess for the trials (including givens) (Not in order)
Normal, Water, Grass, Fire, Electric, Fairy and Dragon?
Don’t forget Ghost.
Fairy might be a Kahuna, but I doubt at this point its a trial, considering ghost chick
Here: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5f4e0c282231b74dcff2ae5f82f9e67db35d841777b041b3597bd79e1735a43f.png
Normal, Electric, Grass, Fire, Water, GHOST and Dragon.
Only seven trials, and most of them will involve some stupid task like finding rattata. I was excited when I heard gyms were gone, but this is really disappointing to hear.
You dont even know what the trials are going to be. Tears
Ilima’s trial has you finding Rattata in a cave.
Kiawe mentioned something about a dance.
There is one where you have to find ingredients.
I like that they seem varied, but they all seem uninteresting and pretty short. Let’s hope I’m wrong about that though
Pretty sure the ingredients one is Mallow’s. It fits her role as a cook.
http://i.imgur.com/pPxhlTy.png
We know two of them.
-Hunting Rattata
-Searching for ingredients
I also seem to recall suggestions of Sophocles doing a quiz/trivia based trial but I could be wrong.
Kiawe’s trial is basically spot the difference:
https://b8bd7827b7f212bb53a8-b2cc59e0ef85511aa5ed3ad88986348d.ssl.cf1.rackcdn.com/34824/kiawe_trial_1__large.png
http://previews.123rf.com/images/wavebreakmediamicro/wavebreakmediamicro1302/wavebreakmediamicro130206444/18125222-Old-man-suffering-with-heart-pain-on-a-sofa-Stock-Photo.jpg
That’s the lung with the disease, do I get my
gym badgetrial charm now?But consider the fact that we have a plethora of other things to do. We have the Kahunas, we have the Zygarde quests, we have Ultra Beasts, we have Team Skull and the Aether Foundation to deal with, and a postgame that has to have SOME potential considering this is a 20th anniversary game. I’m fairly certain I’m not the only one getting tired of the recurring gym formula.
While I’m not disagreeing with the other stuff being there, I still feel like pointing out there are some of us who liked the gym forula and weren’t tired of it (me being one of them).
I’m staying as optimistic as possible about these trials, and hopefully they require more effort than gyms, otherwise it’s just a waste of a new mechanic.
Effort and fun aren’t the same thing though.
Even if chasing rats through holes or wandering through a forest looking for a particular ingredient is difficult, it may not necissarily be fun.
I’m hoping that there are details we’re not aware of yet. Perhaps Mallow has asked some strong trainers to stand guard over the ingredients, making it a bit more challenging than simply picking them up.
Maybe, but then what’s the difference between that and having trainers dotted around a gym?
That’s my point. The only difference is location, really, so it’s not too alien to us. But that’s assuming we can battle Mallow as well, which I’m sure we can since she’s given a type specialty.
If we can then they might as well have just called them gyms.
I was still waiting for a dark gym..
LOL, finding a rattata in a cave sounds so lame.
It’s already confirmed 100% – enjoy the lameness 😀
Hey, it it could be worse
You mean like them just handing us the badge/charm, no questions asked?
I hope Totem pokemon will be tough. I want them with like, max IVs, good EVs and nature, Super powerful moves, higher stats than regular forms of that pokemon and I want the little minions they summon to be really strong. Like I want my team to be wrecked by these things
yeah tough luck with that, they’re gonna be dumbed down for the snot faced younger players
because add a stat buff and helpers an inexperienced player would have his team thoroughly assaulted
Purely going on the battle in the demo, I’m going to say they’ll be way too easy for all us veterans.
https://67.media.tumblr.com/8b39b995bd10c15af481e54573910029/tumblr_ofcenvei9J1vu8cs7o1_540.png
Artist: https://twitter.com/rysk_art
Imagine thinking they’re not connected
I’m still very sceptical about them being related 😛
Same here, sorta. I mean it seems pretty clear that they aren’t one in the same, but it does seem likely to have some sort of story connection.
Yeah, though UB01’s connection to Lillie seems much clearer than the other supposed connections between the other UBs and other characters.
Yeah. People are really starting to reach with some of the new one’s. Like the wire one is Guzma because the spark it has as a head is white, and the one with a mouth belly is clearly Hala because its fat. Genius!
Really at this point it seems people are just trying to see pattern’s where none exist. If anything I fully expect that the UB’s are pokemon of another universe, hence why we can catch them and in reality their designed to resemble specific pokemon of the past. Like UB 02 likely are just alternate versions of Solgaleo and Lunala, since it would be the easiest reason to explain why their version exclusive.
Speaking of the one with a mouth stomach, I’m still awaiting Disney suing Nintendo:
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spectrobes/images/7/79/Naguzoro.jpg
I must admit, that Solgaleo/Lunala counterpart makes more sense. UB02A looks red like the Sun and UB02B looks silvery like the Moon.
The Guzma connection is pretty spot on, same colors, and the same pose. So you’re an idiot.
Oh the irony.
I actually can see the Guzma one… Imo the Hala one is WAAAAY too far of a stretch
This is non-Pokemon related, but has anyone ever had a bang on Twitter? Amazing experience lol
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bang
Lol
If that’s what you were doing, that’s really tacky 😛
No a bang on Twitter means your tweet got at least 150+ RTs and likes lol
I think the best I’ve got is like 11.
I have a couple that got 150+ and one I think 2000-ish lol
You so popular
Lol nah, but if you’re on Football Twitter, its easy to farm RTs tbh
Tell them to invent a new term, that one’s taken twice over 😛
~Tacky~
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zq7Eki5EZ8o
TEARSSSSSSS is that Eric Stonestreet? I have a huge crush on him. Such a hottie
No idea, I only know (in ascending order) Jack Black, Kristen Schaal and Weird Al Yankovic himself. I had to look up the others and forgot their names right afterwards 😛
The guy in the green pants and pink jacket is Eric Stonestreet, he plays in Modern Family.
Explains why I’ve never heard of him 😛
Its a very funny show, one of my favourites and a proud fan since the pilot episode (its in its 8th season now) but I initially started watching it because of him lol. Makes me drool tbf 😛
A) I’m pretty sure it doesn’t air in Britain
B) I don’t get what’s supposed to make him attractive, he just looks like some random old man 😛
I’m pretty sure Netflix has it, at least mine has the first 6 seasons but I don’t know if Netflix UK and Netflix NL share the same library.
As for the attractiveness, he looks odd in this video tbh. I like him more in Modern Family, this doesn’t look like his fashion style at all.
Don’t have Netflix anyway.
Shame, I liked the pink and green.
People told you who he was last time you posted this video…
Wait, if there are only 7, doesnt that only fill 7/8 slots on the four leaf clover thingy??
Not necessarily. We don’t know what they give us for completing their trials. It is more or less some sort of badge, but it doesn’t seem connected to that d-pad thing. If anything, those things are simply the badge that all trial captains have to wear.
Hm. I was kinda hoping it’d be a cool pin we could wear or something for completing them
Anyone got idea where on the map this place is?
http://i.imgur.com/XnsfmFH.png
I thought it might be that place Guzma stands outside, but I’m not sure:
http://i.imgur.com/pYOs0iU.png
The demo trailer is quite interesting 😛
It looks like the big building on the Aether Paradise island
The top one is Aether Paradise, isn’t it? I’ll try to find evidence if I can.
Yep, that’s why I couldn’t place it.
http://i.imgur.com/LPZ0bwT.png
But that also means I could be wrong about where I had placed the second one since it looks like it’s the same building.
It likely won’t help at all, but from one of the Japanese videos you can see there are torches behind Guzma in the building from the second image.
I’m sure there’s footage of Plumeria at the same building in another one but I can’t remember which one.
I think it was the one me and (forgot name again) were translating.
Actually, I’ve just solved something.
That image of Guzma is definately Aether Paradise because of what I found in another video 😛
https://youtu.be/8oO_P4GX_RA
Skip to around 1:15 for the building with Guzma.
Oh wait, I just realized that’s the video your screenshot is from. My bad! I assumed both were from the demo. :/
I went through every single video and screencapped everything of signifance 😛
Wait a second it just hit me
No gyms? No Elite four then champion? No victory road? Find Ratatta? Take stupid pictures?
On the other side: Ultra Beasts, Kahunas and totem pokemon.
So far It’s not looking excellent for Sun and Moon
Also a thought I just had, what if the 8 UBs replace the 8 Gym leaders??
7 Ultra Beasts, UB-02s are version exclusive, so there’s 7 per game.
Asuming none of the others are version exclusive ofc
I forgot about that… well that’s even worse
As well, we do know that their is a champion in Alola. It was mentioned back in X&Y
Bit pessimistic there eh?
“Take stupid pictures?”
Most players nowadays will never remember the joy that was Pokémon Snap.
Difference being that people buying Pokemon Snap were expecting Pokemon Snap.
And what’s wrong with Snap existing as a fun mini game in a main title?
I wouldn’t mind a new snap title, but I hardly see how it’s important in the main series. Unless it unlocks something, I don’t see many people getting much out of it.
gurl imma be using it all the time
If there’s a Slowpoke spot I know where I’ll be. Lol
Because it’s not snap, snap had more elements than just taking photos, and the time spent making that feature could have been spent doing other things (like more new Pokemon, or making an 8th trial).
We have a champion, team skull, aether, UBs, kahunas, etc.
The thought of Splatoon having non ranked Splatzones (and all other modes) and non rotating modes on Switch makes me happy inside
Tell me about it. I’ve been floating in s rank for awhile, i’d like to get some practice in without the pressure of de ranking.
i haven’t splatooned in forever…last time was the Red and Blue Splatfest
This was posted below but this is my favorite trailer for any game ever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oO_P4GX_RA
I second this
Also imagine if this was the reveal trailer! We would be soooo confused and soooo hyped at the same time.
My favorite was the one for HGSS with the three beasts at the beginning
Four down, one to go:
– https://disqus.com/home/channel/thepokemonlab/discussion/channel-thepokemonlab/aether_paradise/
– https://disqus.com/home/channel/thepokemonlab/discussion/channel-thepokemonlab/northwest_island_melemele_yellow/
– https://disqus.com/home/channel/thepokemonlab/discussion/channel-thepokemonlab/northeast_island/
– https://disqus.com/home/channel/thepokemonlab/discussion/channel-thepokemonlab/southeast_island/
Has anyone else noticed the abundance of Machamp in the demo? At first it didn’t really seem intentional, but the NPC that sprained her ankle, or something like that, encounter sort of drew attention to it.
It’s probably hinting at some annoying wrestling minigame that’s going to be in the game.
I’m expecting a Litten3 vs Machamp fight.
I think there’s some significance tied to the empty lot. Machoke and Machamp are often used for heavy moving/lifting, so maybe there’ll be some construction there.
I think it’s just a hint to that machamp smoothing out an area of land in Kanto tbh
They’ve been going Kanto-crazy this time.
Surfing Raichu = Surfing Pikachu
Alolan Forms = All Kanto Pokemon
Trainer is from Kanto
etc
It’s been a looooong time since I’ve seen Bottlecaps mentioned, so are there any new theories regarding how they’ll be obtained? Festival Coins? Rewards for good photos of Pokemon?
My theory is that they give you bottle caps for chugging the most drinks at special alolan bars, thus fuelling my… I mean the characters alcoholic tendencies
Hmm, something makes me think that won’t be incorporated, but I can’t quite pinpoint why. /s
BP 200 for silver and 500 for gold
i want them to be hard to get
What the hell? That’s not just hard, that’s disgustingly HAAARRD
If they’re easy to get you’ll be constantly fighting maxed out M-Rayquaza, Darkrai, Greninja, Talonflame, Mewtwo… shall I continue?
Continue or not wes, we deserve 6 IV legendaries nothing wrong with that.
6x6IV vs 6x6IV
tbh I wish legendaries were omitted from the bottle cap uses, it would make the online battles more interesting and you wouldn’t see like 100 of them all the time, I never use legendaries
I never use legendaries either. I catch em and box em(Unless I’m playing HGSS ;P).
I’d rather work for that level of power, not have it handed to me on a silver platter.
that’s utterly disgusting
Of course it is disgusting legends are for noobs. But why can noobs play using legenedaries they caught using the 3ds? Why can’t nintendo kill showdown?
OK, follow-up question: How will we get BP? Are you thinking a Frontier or more lame excuses like a Maison or Battle Institute?
Slaking Motel fights
if they didn’t change up the Battle Institutes they ain’t gonna do it now
For 500 BP it better be a HA Capsule
dude it raises Ivs to max you can pay a lot extra
Earthen, it will be useless if we breed 5IV pokemon and as for legendaries you just get 2 silver for 400. Gold cap is useless if its worth 500 unless you use it for legends prior to gen 6
my point, if you want 6IV legends you gotta work for it
We don’t know if they raise to max or only by 1 point, unless one of the demo hackers found something I’m not aware of.
Are you sure it wasn’t on serebii ??
Nothing about it on their Hyper Training page http://serebii.net/sunmoon/hypertraining.shtml
they used to have it i can gaurentee it
The Japanese Site stated Special Event Magearna will be holding a Silver Bottlecap and there was this video saying hyper training on a pikachu
Silver yes, but that doesn’t mean a gold exists.
Gold Bottlecap has been revealed, can’t remember where tho
On the one hand I want to take people’s word for it, on the other hand I like to know the source to be sure.
http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/90765/t2207495-hyper-training-update-gold-bottle-caps/
Normally I’d question that, but the guy’s a moderator and he’s saying Celebi said it, so I’ll accept that.
well they confirmed that there would be Silver and Gold Bottlecaps
Question: I have a shiny Manectric (His name is Taranis) and I’m not sold on what Evs to train him in and what moves he should get, I plan on using him as a mega at some point and he has perfect IV’s in HP and S.Def
Thoughts?
What nature is he?
Sassy and has Minus
put it down
any Manetric nowadays that isn’t timid or modest doesn’t belong in competitive
Its a shiny and I can make it work, I always do
.. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5fcd2b58a334547ffbe2228e86a2447da244bb55f8ecae2cf2659310eb40da5f.gif
You can use a Pokemon you love. Just make sure you’ve got a viable Pokemon to love.
Bitch that don’t work these days
all that matters is perfectly breed stats and maximum effort values
and why bother everyone just uses the cheap stuff just for an easy win
LOL if that don’t work these days then I would never win any battles, heck I’ve used pokemon with no perfect IVs and dominated. Get good earthen
humanely euthanize It lol, I am sorry FAE it’s no good for competition unless you use it against water types ev training this mutt is not worth your time.
y’all are no help at all, such linear thinking in this bunch
I’ve never used Manetric so I’m not sure. :/
I think I’m just gunna figure it out myself, and then laugh when it continues to win at the people who think pokemon battles are so linear
Ok
Light screen
Toxic
Roar
Volt switch
252 hp 252 Spdef 4 Spatk
Leftovers
I think I’ll use most of this thanks
i WILL die the second you see a Ground type
It can switch to flying type
Wait, the sight of Ground types makes Earthen die?
edited
Can’t we just use whatever we want in competitive with whatever nature we want? I think its more fun when you do not conform to the typical and standard team recommendations. Like if you win a tournament or whatever they are called with a standard cookie cutter team I wouldn’t feel pride but shame because you had to conform to win.
yeah have fun losing
One day I want to battle you, the condition being if I beat you with my supermodel/princess team you concede and admit defeat at the hands of a fairy princess~
hmmmm give me a sec
I saw his Excadrill Hippowodn combo and I have to say good luck outspeeding that iron head
Which reminds me I re battled the oras elite four today. My Lopunny being the only thing above level 70 the rest were in the low fifties. She literally carried me through every battle until Glacia’s second when I ran out of pp on every move but a fighting type and it was froslass xD
Had you given it a mega stone it would have killed that froslass
It was a mega lopunny
You know the ability scrappy?
I use cute charm. I run a really troll all female team.
A) Have a slower weather setter than Hippowdon
B) Fake Out Excadrill and have something else murder it.
C) Have something that resists Steel
Presuming this is doubles
You mean like my ice/grass/water team led by mega abomasnow?
Could work but unless Abomasnow protects Excadrill’s gonna batter it
I can still outspeed a slow Abomasnow
Am I not allowed to use trick room?
that’s if you can set it up
Mega Abomasnow is slower than Hippowdon IIRC, and even then what would happen is
Snow Warning > Sandstream > Snow Warning the turn the Abomasnow Megas
Keep Hippowdon in, you’ve got a high risk of losing it, SWITCH IN Excadrill, it’s probably gonna get dented
Plus abomasnow learns earth quake.
i can still burn it with Sheer Force Flamethrower
You’re going to make me use my troll team aren’t you? Well if you want to play that I guess its going to be Mismagius Mean Look-Perish song on your hippihowdon.
i’ll just Toxic you and protect until the combined sand and poison whittle you down
easy peasy and beside you can swap out the last turn of perish song if they perish singer switches
Can you all just shut up with the back and fourth and battle already you’re not gunna know who can win by talking only doing
No tea no shade
What do you battle on again? Showdown? what is that?
me? No I battle on the 3DS earthen uses Showdown I’m pretty sure
From what though, because that’s still switching into an always accurate Blizzard wth Hail breaking any sashes
singles
In that case surviving and then finishing off Excadrill seeing as it isn’t the buffest thing isn’t exactly out of the question.
I don’t think he does 3DS battles just that showdown thing
damn it i can'[t find my battle fighting that exact team it was filled with girly pokemon
Espeon
milotic
roserade
sylveon
the works and i remember annihilating them
i dont use sylveon. ive never even had one.
I only use azumarill and mawile out of most fairies.
unsurprising they’re the most overpowered ones out there
unsurprisingly Ive had azurills and my mawiles on ruby and saphire before the remakes came out. Also before fairies existed. xP
back them they weren’t handed Huge Power to make them ridiculously overpowered
Yes do that! Fight the system girl! As long as you know what you’re doing all will be good
Oh and its Sassy
252 Speed, 252 Special Attack
Volt Switch
Thunderbolt
Overheat
Toxic/Protect
Honestly the ability being Minus doesn’t help all that much though
~Mega~ I think so far I like your suggestion the most I’m still not putting toxic on it though
Thunder wave?? To destabilise your opponent??
Toxic is because you don’t have HP Ice and you’re better off getting a last ditch Toxic off on something if all else fails. Especially when you’ve used overheat and you’re special attack is dropped anyway. Getting a last ditch toxic on a Ground Type will prevent it from walling you later.
Also Manectric’s move pool isn’t all that great.
But it’s up to you cos I don’t know what other moves would be good for it.
I was going to give it round tbh and use it with another pokemon with round, I do doubles most
Thanks everyone for your suggestions I know what I’m going to do now, mantric will be part of a new team I’m building and I cant wait to finish it :3
RF
http://pre01.deviantart.net/6960/th/pre/f/2016/229/3/c/pokemon__team_skull_by_eternalegend-daeabcc.jpg
-_- I posted this earlier Hax
^^^
I’m truly sorry, I’m not always online to know what’s happening, but you implying that I do and should is kind of weird…
Its all good, ill let it slide because you’re pretty.
lol im not implying that you’re on all the time I just think its funny that you we would post the same art on the same day XD
Apparently we have the same taste because I think this art is gorgeous, it makes the Pokemon world come alive or something
you should really check out her other work, I follow her on Deviant art and its always so cool
Apparently I already posted her Silvally art, god it looks amazing, just like these two:
http://pre07.deviantart.net/62a2/th/pre/f/2016/175/a/a/pokemon__cyrus_by_eternalegend-da7hyjg.jpg http://pre15.deviantart.net/b3b3/th/pre/f/2016/269/7/1/pokemon__ghetsis_by_eternalegend-daj0d8o.jpg
My fav I think other than the team skull one is the pokemon Go professor
Didn’t you post that earlier?
no it was me
Fairy lovers will hate me for this. http://i.4cdn.org/vp/1477256617942.png
Not really, not my fave but it’s kinds cute
wouldn’t it be a Steel type?
No steel in that but original ……maybe plastic type.
ughhhhhhhhhhh
Well fairies do deserve to put into a bin so I see where this coming from
Guuuuys help I have school tomorrow
Try having work tomorrow 😐
I’d happily take work
Maybe then I’d have my own house and not have homework for five different subjects, four of which I’ll never use again.
What I wouldn’t give to be back at school.
Tbh nowadays is weird
Adults want to go back to school
Kids want to be the hell out
Cos kids haven’t experienced being out of it :p
Honestly school and college was so so…but I enjoyed uni so much, now work life is depressing
In Britain? With these house prices?
No chance 😛
Renting a flat, maybe.
Owning a house, think again.
I was more meaning it’s having my own space than literally owning a house tbh. Two younger sisters = hell
Oh, well that’s solvable *hands cianide pills*
Nah fam, I may hate them but that’s sibling hate, not real hate :p
Oh well
*disposes of pills in sweet shop*
Your mistake is thinking you can move as soon as you start working. Take advantage of living with parents as long as possible. Of course this depends on the individual in question. But I think renting is a massive waste of money.
You replied to the wrong person 😛
Taking advantage is exactly what I’m doing.
Aha, one of the smart ones. Knew i wouldn’t be dissappointed.
It has its downsides like my dad continually staying up until 1/2/3am on Fridays, Saturdays and sometimes Sundays or during the week which completely throws off my sleeping, but otherwise it’s better than the alternatives.
I have literally no downsides at the moment. Help them out with the bills and groceries every now and then (probably averaging <£100 per month), and in turn I get a roof over my head, and three hot meals a day. Sure as hell better than paying a complete stranger £750-£1000 per month.
It’s still progress on the way to getting a flat tho
I’m afriad I have to agree, if you’ve got parents who can afford to keep you at home it’s much cheaper to just pay them a bit here and there than it is to rent a flat.
Renting a flat is flat rental + food + power usage etc, living with parents is usually just a fraction of the household use which generally works out cheaper because there’s more people making the use of the resources (e.g. heating a whole house for 5 people vs heating a whole flat for the sake of 1).
The less you spend on rent and stuff, the more you have to save up for a house/flat.
The thing is though it’s not like flats are only disadvantageous
I’d have my own space, and wouldn’t be kept up by whatever antics my sisters and mother are getting up to.
I wouldn’t have to compromise living with other people, for example having access to the toilet whenever I want to or being able to use the kitchen to cook when I want to.
It’s an opportunity to move closer to where my work could be, or at least relocate to a more advantageous area for travel and work.
And finally, but this is just becuase I’m a social person and it’s thus a subjective advantage, the freedom to invite over who I want, when I want, for how long I want. Me and my friends frequently host movie and game nights but it’s always had to be at one location due to parents and siblings and they’ve always been cut short in their prime due to being teens
It would be a lot more costly though – freedom comes at a price. It would mean less video games, less nice food, less luxuries etc.
Also staying up for as long as you like gets mentally destabilising after a while and the more you do it the harder it becomes to get into normal human hours.
There are positives but there are plenty of negatives.
I agree there are a number of advantages, but I would rather sacrifice these advantages for a short period, so i can work towards greater advantages. I honestly never understood the prospect of paying such high amounts per month to live in a place that at the end of the day doesn’t even belong to you. Plus having to then save for a property is extremely difficult with such high living costs.
Guys help! I have to go to work AT school tomorrow! (I’m a teacher X-D)
Will pray for you
Touché
I hope your weekends are lit enough to save you from your weeks of hell
I see no issue with this unless you have PE 😛
I loved PE whats wrong with it?
That’s everyone’s favourite what wrong with pharap you mean lol
Full updated map analysis complete.
The demo and a review of old footage helped me realised some of the speculation was wrong and has shed some new light on other locations.
Melemele:
https://disqus.com/home/channel/thepokemonlab/discussion/channel-thepokemonlab/northwest_island_melemele_yellow/
(Akala):
https://disqus.com/home/channel/thepokemonlab/discussion/channel-thepokemonlab/northeast_island/
(Ulaula):
https://disqus.com/home/channel/thepokemonlab/discussion/channel-thepokemonlab/southeast_island/
(Poni):
https://disqus.com/home/channel/thepokemonlab/discussion/channel-thepokemonlab/southwest_island/
Aether Paradise:
https://disqus.com/home/channel/thepokemonlab/discussion/channel-thepokemonlab/aether_paradise/
Is the beach with the Pyukumuku not worth adding? I noticed it isn’t listed in Akala.
Not sure if it is tbh, the Pyukumuku thing seems like a random minigame that has no bearing on the plot or anything.
I might add it later though, I’d need to get ahold of the video of the minigame though 😛
Also I’ve just realised, that bit above might be a golfing green. I’ve had that thought before but thought it was too odd, but now we know about Kahili from the demo it’s quite possible it is actually a golfing green 😛
That was fun to read, well written!
Thanks.
Hopefully I’ve enlightened you about something in the region you weren’t aware of before 😛
Yeah! Litten3 is apparently a mixed sweeper with shitty defenses….like Charizard, and Typloshion, and Blaziken, and Infernape! Yeah! Finally something new. Even if it’s Fire/Dark is basically another houndoom. Yeahhh -.-
Hopefully not very mixed like infernape
I want an explicit Physical fire attacker with 70 or lower Sp.attk ……GF will not do this cuz it’s op while it can’t burn.
That would be amazing it would send a gyrados to the pokemon center with 1 thunder punch
I want Lopunny to learn Play rough
If Slaking learns it so should Lopunny
I am so tired of my moveset of Bounce, Retaliate, Ice Punch, and Focus Blast it wasn’t event compatible with Brick Break.
That’s a pretty crappy moveset honestly
High Jump Kick and Return would probably be better options imo
Use a heart scale to make it learn high jump kick or make it learn drain punch from the battle resort
I beat my ex bfs mega gardevoir with this moveset
Today streaming showed Litten stats. Yeah but what’s the point when we have other 4 pokemon which are almost the same? You know why no one uses any other fire starters except from MBlaziken and MCharizard? Cause they are all the same, so what’s the point?
Wait where did you hear this?
What is Sirianna Grande?!!!!
So what does everyone think about the man who takes the player to the rainbow islet?
http://i.imgur.com/kDb2UWp.png
I know people are always really angry with Pokemon randomly gaining Fairy type but why aren’t Azelf, Uxie and Mesprit fairy types? Their names literally mean Elf, Pixie and Spirit
I feel the same way. Why give Jigglypuff and Wigglytuff Fairy and not REAL fairies?
They seemed to be avoid in retyping legends, not a single one got retyped when quite a few kinda fit it
They’re legendaries, retcon their types and all hell will break loose.
Plus they are the embodiment of Logos, Ethos and Pathos which are all concepts to do with deep thinking.
I was never angry o_o bring on the fairies, open the floodgates
they’re representations of humanoid emotions
ergo that’s all in the mind
no fairy magic there
Ok but they are literal faries
and we thought Solgaleo was fire
Solgaleo wasn’t literally called ‘Fire’ though, the sun had plenty of types to choose from to represent it
No, but Sol = Sun and Sun -> Fire
alright then go look at ALL THE PEOPLE who speculated their Typing and how 99% said Solgaleo was going to be fire
Elf
Pixie
Sprite
Literally Fairies and fairy associated creatures
Hell the Fairy-Type Arceus plate is the Pixie plate
well then they should’ve been reconned
otherwise they’re not ever gonna be fairies
same goes double for Cresselia
That’s the whole point of the post though
Why aren’t these logical choices through when choices that appear looser to all but GameFreak are
Cresselia should have been part fairy tbh
well it ain’t and they’re never going to make it one know
Eh, I mean they could. They really should retcon the lake trio though.
I’m aware, but it should be, don’t get your bra in a twist earthen its not a big deal
to me it is, type means something and i always try to figure out why it works, like how everyone bitched that Florges wasn’t Grass and i theorized that all its grass attacks are it manipulating flower energy
or why we have no single stage flying types outside Tornadus
and btw way i don’t wear a bra, if they’re flawless you go braless
omg that last line XD
Florges should never be grass, its more of a parasite to the plant then it is part of the plant, so I agree with you
That’s why they are Psychic
EXACTLY. This is what annoys me about fairy types, they’re so loosely defined and make no sense in what exact defines a fairy type. If any Pokemon should be, they should.
I’m gonna say it’s because they’re Legendary and they didn’t want to change Legendaries
i couldn’t find the girly team but they’re basically the same thing
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/monotype-258774510
oh I see it, that ground team is really girly
Don’t use a single one of those. xDDD
A bearded demon, Slowbro and a literally only male Pokémon
So girly
tbh though none of these are really “girly” except gardevoir
well sorry if i couldn’t find the right fight
i save every victory for 3 years and they add up
you ever think you may have a problem there bud?
nope >:) everyone of them is a reminder of my power and worth
don’t you always say you like lose most of them though?
because of op legends
I can beat you at cards! 😛
I bet my Steel Team would whoop yo ass
is it generic Steel?
Ferrothorn
Skarmory
Scizor/Bisharp
Doublade/Aegislash
Jirachi
stop me if i name more then half the team
Stop you’ve named the entire team.
I’m away off to bed for school, night everyone! Wish you all luck for tomorrow!
No idea what happens tomorrow, but sure thing 😛
http://phospoop.deviantart.com/art/Poppmaid-feat-Pyukumuku-641673072
http://www.deviantart.com/art/The-Archer-641666208
How good starters look like…
U forget that. http://pre03.deviantart.net/a47f/th/pre/i/2016/297/4/1/luchalitten___litten_offical_final_evolution_by_keinhangia-dam3026.jpg
ok THAT is gonna be my new Wallpaper
It’s Mother ******** ************** beast
I like litten’s evolution more than blaziken and infernape.
http://img04.deviantart.net/b0dd/i/2015/096/2/d/day_333___mega_mimilop___lopunny_by_autobottesla-d8op62i.png
Infinitely better.
lame Mega Medicham ripoff
You’re hostile I find it absolutely adorable.
you’d be if your so-called friends flaked on my birthday party
Awwwweeeeeee x3
i’m severely pissed
i should be getting drunk at Dave & Busters now but nope those morons never follow through on plans
I tried alcohol last night. I was at restaurant and I ordered a bottle of Chardonnay, I didn’t exactly like it.
i only drink on special occasions
and this was supposed to be one of them
Do you want a hug to feel better? x3
you do realize i’ll knife you right
You’re so adorable, like omg.
piss off
Kitty has claws~ It’s okay you’re just emotionally sensitive. Like a teddy bear but without the fluff.
sort out your priorities and run the other way
My daddy taught me what to do to a man who would hurt me. : )
freaking leave??? I hope so
Make sure they can’t hurt you or another woman ever again x3
so murder… ok then
More like break them emotionally and mentally but, if a man is of strong mind then my brother and my father handle it. Just ask the boy who broke my nose in 10th grade, he turned eighteen and they had a field day~
Im against physical violence of any kind… but I’m not going to tell you how to live your life, but its not like two wrongs are going to make a right
As I said the other day my relationships of all kinds are like light switches when we are good its on when we are off, I am totally apathetic towards you.
you should probably talk to someone about that
Hang on a minute, you’re slated to be married and you’re only just trying alcohol?
Weird.
My fiance is borderline lush but I dislike alcohol,drugs, and cigarettes intensely its rather ironic actually.
I’ve got nothing against alcohol when drunk quietly or with a meal, I just don’t like when people try to drink high quantities with the explicit intention of getting drunk.
Don’t like cigarettes, explicity detest non-prescribed drugs (except alcohol, caffine and (alhtough I still dislike it) tobacco).
First time I tried alcohol I was probably about 10-12 or something around that range.
U don’t need alcohol but meditation.
It’s better though
I said good starters. Clearly I did not include that thing.
Don’t call it that thing beast don’t like that.
What about “another bipedal terrible fire fighting looking starter which is basically an Infernape clone in stats and an Emboar clone in design”?
You’re kidding right?
https://img.pokemondb.net/artwork/emboar.jpg
http://img08.deviantart.net/8d6d/i/2016/166/0/2/litten_final_evolution___fanart_by_devildman-da65to6.png
For sure he is.
i love these two
Black & Orange pig vs Red & Black abomination…
I choose the pig, at least its second form was also bipedal.
Woooahhoow (japanese style)
keep posting good stuff like you always do
*cries*
This is the first generation give me the feel to catch them all….but I do my best choosing my team *spoiler*
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https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d854664607d6dbcd13c9192a319727b6a52f53b0802d65c655c33d85684229ae.jpg
I’m totally catching everything I don’t already have this gen
LOOOOOOOOOOOL Shuppet is a Rotom wearing a Reaper Cloth. Unreal
Rank these gens of *Final* Starter evos from best to worst: Gen 5, 6, and 7. I feel like the last 3 gens haven’t had great final evos, in my honest opinion. I’d have to go
1) Gen 7 (Rowlet3 is really good, Popplio3 is well designed although not my fav, and Litten3 is bad)
2) Gen 5 (Serperior is amazing! One of the best starters ever in terms of design. Samurott is meh, and Emboar is a bit over designed.)
3) Gen 6 (I hate all 3 of these. Delphox is the least worst, imo, but still disappointing. I’ve seen better fan art for all 3 of these!)
1) Gen 5. Samurott and Serperior are actually very high on my list. Emboar is meh.
2) Gen 7. Rowlet3 is great and Litten3 is a solid design. Not keen on Popplio3 though.
3) Gen 6. Don’t like Chesnaught, Greninja is meh and Delphox is okay. Worst starter bunch yet.
Gen5- Emboar and Serperior are awesome, Samurott it rotten
Gen6-Delphox and Greninja are great but i liked it better when it didn’t have fanboys. Chesnaugt is disgusting.
Gen7- Popplio3 is the queen, the archer is mediocre and Litten3 is kind of just meh bad
6 > 7 > 5
If it weren’t for Tony then 7 might have made it to the top, but tbh I like Delphox and Chesnaut more than both the Mermaid and Tony
1 gen 7 Litten and Popplio, I dislike robinhood potter
2 gen 5 I like all three and I love samurott
3 gen 6 I love Greninja the other two are ok
1. Gen 6 – probably the best out of these last three gens. I like all 3 of them
2. Gen 7 – I really like Rowlets final evolution and im warming up to the tiger, but man that Water abomination.
3. Gen 5 – Ughhh….just don’t.
7 > 5 > 6
1: Bulbasaur, Chikorita, Popplio.
2: n/a
3: n/a
4: Piplup and Torchic but only when kept unevolved.
5: n/a
6: The rest of them.
100: Infernape.
1) Poppmaid is faboulos and Robinwrooth is well designed. Luchalitten is bad.
2) Serperior is well designed and Samurott is cool. I refuse to talk about the horrible pig.
3) Greninja is a beast and Delphox is cool. Chesnaught is meh.
1. Gen VII: Love Marmeid and Litigre; Archoot is alright.
2. Gen V: Love Samurott; Emboar and Serperior are meh.
3. Gen VI: Delphox is okay; I hate Chesnaught and Greninja.
Gen 7 – All of them legends. If Litleo3 was announced before gen 5 I think he would have more love
Gen 6 – Chesnaught is ok, Greninja is fine, Delphox is the ugliest thing
Gen 5 – Oh boy they dropped the ball on this one
I would have hated Tony whatever generation he was introduced in. I actually don’t mind fire fighting and I’m ok with Emboar 😛
1)Gen 6: Love Greninja (not so much the conceptual mess that is ash-greninja), Chesnaught is fine, Delphox is fine but could have been done better
2)Gen 5: Samurott is awesome, Seperior is cool but pretty bland, and I don’t like Emboar (should have been quadrupedal)
3)Gen 7: Rowlet3 is AMAZING, Popplio3 is a massive dissapointment (though not a terrible design), Litten3 is Horrendous
I’m kind of not sure if gen 7 will stay my least favourite starter gen in the long run, it’s always been gen V before, and I prefer Rowlet3 to Samurott, so maybe they should be made equal in quality.
I guess my overall starter gen list would be 3>4>1=2>6>5=7
Horredous is my new favourite word XD
Litten3 -> Tony the tiger
Who’s buying Sun and who’s Buying Moon??? I am buying Moon
http://img03.deviantart.net/a45b/i/2016/196/2/2/lunala__shine_of_the_moon___pokemon_by_invidiata-da25z7z.png
Also I don’t care what anyone says it should be spelled “Lunaala”
I always misread it as lunula since I’m a big anatomy person.
YES!!
I instinctively type Lunaala over Lunala because I got so used to it. Plus Lunala promotes misprononciation (like Wes lol).
😀
moon all the way
I’ve preordered a physical copy of Sun, and I’m buying a digital Moon as soon as it’s available.
Both, Sun first and as my competitive battling hub, and then moon to replay and stuff.
Sun. Need motivation to be awake during daytime.
Sun and bf Moon, so we can swap, but I like Solgaleo better.
Probably Sun, because Day Lycanrock > Night Lycanrock
Moon 100% and if I’m not to poor maybe sun later, but like the idea of playing during the in game night is just awesome to me
I was already set on Moon being my main game, but the demo confirmed it with the nighttime music being so much better!
Both, but playing Sun first and making it my hub.
Well I’ll probably get both as I’m a Pokemon whore……BUT I’m conflicted about which I’ll play first. I was originally going to get Moon first as I like Lunala more, but now I’m think sun as I think I’d rather have the time sync up with the actual time for my first run through. I won’t care as much about the 12 hour difference the second time, but I’d rather have things like me going to get my starter and whatnot happen during the day rather than in the middle of the night lol I’m still not 100% sure tho
Since I’m downloading Moon at midnight I’ll be getting my starter during the in-game daytime. :/
I would prefer not to download the game. I only downloaded OR because I was stuck in my house due to a snow storm. Otherwise I would have gotten the box. I like the idea of waking up early and going to the store lol
Moon. Seing Lunala flying on the sea at all speed in that trailer and seeing its shiny form made me sure about it. Do we wanna talk about baby lunala?
Sameee
Lunaala is the beautiful-est pokemon
Nope. Lurantis takes that name. :p
no
*Most beautiful grass type
that would be lilligant
Tserenna
Tsareena and them legs
i love tsarenna but lilligant design is still superior imo
Check again
It’s actually stated on the website
Nah, that’d be Serperior. Come on, guys..
It’s canon lol
Milotic laughs as it murders the moonbat
lolyo u wish
They’re both really nice :3 Lunala has a sort of haunting beauty, while Milotic is majestic beauty
i was trying to think other pokemon other than milotic, i cant because milotic does really takes the cake on being the most beautiful
honestly I my ex and I always thought Milotic was hella ugly lol, it grew on me over the years though but its shiny has like grandmas wig on
Agreed!
*sends in Sableye*
Bye bye bat thing
What does that have to do with it
Sableye is beautiful
dem shiny crystals
So shiny
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/cb/f0/68/cbf068e92fa82e24222e5c344497eda1.png
That too 😛
http://orig09.deviantart.net/8137/f/2014/081/8/7/sableye_by_bluekomadori-d7b5din.jpg
Dark/Ghost
Both 4x effective XD
Also destroyed by Moonblast…
How is that?
Fairy is it’s only weakness, I believe. I use Sableye all the time, and it’s never survived a Moonblast from anything.
Oh ok I thought u talked about Lunala.
Only if it hits first and Sableye isn’t mega.
He mean she has 4x weaknesses to dark and ghost type.
Yeah but it is still perfect and beautiful
I know ….I will choose moon at the end.
I don’t get why people like it, Crobat’s much prettier.
It is a sparkly galaxy MOON BAT
It looks like someone could poke a hole in it with their finger. And its gold bits look clunky.
And it doesn’t sparkle it glows.
(Only faux vampires sparkle.)
ok stop
Crobat is a moon bat that evolves through the power of friendship, it has 4 wings and it’s purple.
Everyone knows purple is the ultimate colour 😛
How dare you use my favorite color against me!
You can’t resist the purple.
http://orig03.deviantart.net/214f/f/2013/208/1/7/crobat_by_haychel-d6fi5ki.jpg
And its shiny is pink!
http://orig00.deviantart.net/9580/f/2013/048/6/1/crobat_overlay_by_pillowing-d5vbbfr.gif
Wait Lunaala is also Purple
http://pm1.narvii.com/6098/c9b0f674792cc1a2891e89eb37f9c2ec94124d89_hq.jpghttp://pm1.narvii.com/6098/c9b0f674792cc1a2891e89eb37f9c2ec94124d89_hq.jpg
404 😛
Besides, Crobat is aaaaaalllll purple 😛
Ok but it is still purple
U should achieve geometric art more.
Geometric ‘art’ is too abstract to be called art.
abstraction is the best art art actually.
Abstraction isn’t art.
If abstraction was art, all games would have low-poly wireframes instead of detailed fully-textured models.
Nah
Please. Exploud has more game than that thing.
Sorry I thought this community was filled with level headed reasonable people I guess not
I think Lunala is pretty.
Hah. Where’d you get that idea?
Well since you were wrong about that, I guess you have a history of being wrong, and are therefore wrong about Lunala. :p
#undeniablelogic
I think Milotic, Articuno, Suicune, Lunala, and Sirianna Grande are all tied for most beautiful.
We all know Gardevoir is bae.
I don’t like Gardevoir she reads matronly to me.
Popplio 3 actually gives me that impression
Gardevoir is so pretty though. Plus it’s fairy! And its mega is even cooler. AnD ITS SHINY
And the little powderpuff that it apparently comes from is the cutest
Dont hover unless you have seen the leaks
Sorry but until another Pokémon actually has a variation of beauty in their name, the most beautiful will be Beautifly
vivillion is better than that flop
funny way to spell Mothim
mothim king! i like his design
Vivillon is just the best regional bug
Unfortunately Purugly looks more beautiful than that thing
Reshiram>Lunala in beauty
I do love Reshiram but Lunaala is just so mysterious
oh btw, Spheal is the cutest pokemon. Point blank and the period. This aint an opinion, is a fact.
https://66.media.tumblr.com/4aeffe991c6b78b4b854ac6fd6bf1596/tumblr_mvn5x1mH0P1sk9s87o1_500.gif
http://static.zerochan.net/Furret.full.1400041.jpg
http://pre07.deviantart.net/fdd1/th/pre/i/2016/201/c/7/mimikyu_sticker_by_refroste-daaht57.png
nah fam
Mimikyus backstory hit me right in the feels so like, yes
Have you not seen the Mimikyu song? Because I believe you’re mistaken.
he is literally just a piece of cloth…
YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM
He wants to be a Pikachu, how pathetic. Be your own Pokemon
no he WANTS TO BE LOVED
Be loved for who you are, not what others want you to be.
#freemimikyu
Alright, then the title goes to Cutiefly. I mean, it’s got cute in the name.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/74a0107241a03ae26650750e3a5c513cafabf106c218f190dee7dfcbddb11a5c.png
JOLTIK MY BBY
Joltik >>>>>>
Cutest spider known to man.
(Even though it’s only got 4 legs)
http://66.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ljq904F7co1qcwik5o1_r1_500.gif
You were saying?
http://orig07.deviantart.net/4ca6/f/2013/231/c/4/piplup_by_haychel-d6is5pn.jpg
Dawn made be despise this thing.
At least Empoleon is still cool.
Ok guys we know this is the best pokemon right?
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/thumb/d/d2/618Stunfisk.png/250px-618Stunfisk.png
Finally something we call all agree on!
Always. Stunfisk is love, stunfisk is life.
UMMMM you mean right one, right? 🙂
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/09bf837d5c78ebe28782cb7cc5dfae7d7785e19ffea152ca695867f7825820b1.png
oK you can leave while the rest of us worship the one true god
http://67.media.tumblr.com/d2f8fc675b1f9787403aac0bfd460b7b/tumblr_mez7pmf5UW1rmgve8o1_1280.png
What the fuck is that shit? No No No
I like dunsparce! xD
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/thumb/e/ec/122Mr._Mime.png/250px-122Mr._Mime.png
http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/183/750/d8c.jpg
GF chose the perfect hair color
Its shiney could have been brunette and we would have had the kardashians
When his girlfriend think he’s a cheater.
I’m more surprised to see a dugtrion coming out of a bench.
its in a garden box
xD
I said it first xP
So where’s the body? o.o
I believe diglett line is based on moles. So therefore they would have little pink clawed feet at the very bottom.
or this
http://2.media.dorkly.cvcdn.com/76/35/ccac2d1f8afdcf7f67f4ae2edc77d5e6-what-lies-beneath-truth-about-diglett-and-dugtrio.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ed/Talpa_europaea_MHNT.jpg
adorable
http://static1.fjcdn.com/comments/4175990+_aadee4cfd2996dd64662bac43af41622.png
No.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_E367faWAPg/Tqj3tWANR7I/AAAAAAAAAqg/lZnRJymrO2c/s1600/The_Diglet__s_Feet_by_Knickolaus.png
the big paws go where the little ones go they burrow forwards
I dunno, I didn’t draw it 😛
I mean it might have little more claws or something (it has feet according to mystery dungeon), but my headcanon is that it’s literally fused to the earth around it, making that sediment an actual part of it’s body. That would explain why when brock holds it or when it uses fly in stadium, it stays covered.
it’s in a pan
Oops
That lying, three faced mole in the dirt… I KNEW he was seeing other people!
https://twitter.com/RealShigeruM/status/790281650181705728
I’m seriously thinking about using Stunfisk in Black 2 just as a joke because I’m not sure what to use for my 6th slot.
Leavanny
Altaria
Samurott/Lapras debating if I should switch out
Zoroark
Gothitelle
???
Mincinno
Crustle
Arcanine?
you need an ice type
Maybe I could use Glaceon
YES
I have never used Glaceon despite it being my second favorite eeveelution (Sylveon is my favorite) so yeah I think I’ll go with that. I’m in Castelia Sewers right now so I can catch one and I need another pokemon against Burgh
i don’t think you can access the ice stone until post
I can trade it over to Black version and evolve it there once I get to a good level
boo
Well sorry Unova doesn’t exactly have alot of good ice types
Vanillish is amazing, until i saw an art of a typhlosion eating one once and it discomforted me
I love Vanilite but it’s evolution’s face is just too dopey
Cryogonal is actually very good, or at least from experience, I never cared for stats, I never got it’s hate, it’s a Killer snowflake, that’s terrifying.
Any other suggestions?
Gladiolus
Plumeria
Guzmania
Jasmine
Lily
These are all flower names
that was said in the interview
Never knew bout it
Yeah, the “flowers” hint makes sense now.
is because they going to blossom to be amazing character
Ultra beasts
Fun fact, all the gym leaders’ japanese names are based on flowers.
Also you forgot Hau, Hala and Kukui, and all the trial captains.
Anyone else think the main story is gonna be short? Maybe I’m just tripping. 7 trials don’t seem like much, but then I remember the grand trials for each island, and UBs AF and TS. I just hope the trials aren’t super easy and quick. Either way I’m super excited for the games.
“Grand Trial” = battle with Kahuna
We only know two of the Kahunas so far right? Hala and Olivia?
Right, but we know the other two will probably be wearing red and purple.
http://pm1.narvii.com/5809/68db6bcfb5a2e9333fbc98ff4e77a631016c69a9_hq.jpg
Do we know any version exclusives besides the monkeys, lynaroc, and the legendaries?
Drampa is in Moon and Turtonator is in Sun
Not confirmed yet.
I have a gut feeling Sandslash and Ninetales will be exclusives
i swear Wimpod better not be a version exclusive
As long as it’s in Sun I’m ok
I will laugh if it is in moon. Logic decrees that ice,fairy, and water type exclusives go to Moon.
and how many are exclusives
When solrock learnt fire moves and lunatone didn’t learn any damaging ice or water moves! TRIGGERED!
learning a attack doesn’t make it that type
You don’t understand solrock was rock psychic and learnt fire moves because it looked like the sun lunatone is same typing but with no water moves when the moon literally controls our tides or ice when the moon gives off no heat!!! bruhhhh
“Sunlight is the source of Solrock’s power. It is said to possess the ability to read the emotions of others. This Pokémon gives off intense heat while rotating its body” .
they screwed lunatone over though
and for Lunatone all its dex entries only state its health and activity during lunar cycles
Dream killer!
Every dream i crush sustains me
Then starve I think They both are ugly. xD
then why even freaking bother bringing them up
Boredom~
In Egyptian and Sumerian Mythology the moon is water symbol …..so maybe she was right.
no shit everyone with a decent amount of knowledge understands what the sun and Moon can symbolize
Drown in your insolence, jk <3
That’s not common in my country, and once u know that u should agree with her from the beginning.
Princess has the brains, looks, and the “killer” personality. 🙂 Merci Beaucoup.
I can’t understand wat exactly u saying but I understand the content r u count as a fluent person?
Either way, everyone knows the moon controls the tides.
Ignore earthen he is a lunar-tic.
Btw, Lunartone can learn Ice Beam and Blizzard.
plenty of psychic types can
Lunatone isn’t an Ice type, I’m just pointing it out because it shows her premise of “it can’t learn ice moves” is incorrect.
i made a mistake
i meant to type psychic
Fair enough. Solrock can’t though, which is also half the point.
well from a scientific standpoint anything with such a powerful mass caught in Earth’s gravitational pull could influence the tides
Hypothetically what if we removed the Moon and replaced it with a big landmass floating in there
anything that gets significantly pulled in just enough in to stay in orbit could also affect the tides
and don’t forget the moon does not solely control them you gotta apply the earth’s rotation in there too but that goes without saying
I’m not saying it deserves water type, I’m just saying there’s a reason those ancient cultures used it as a water symbol.
This is heresy….I have to go cry in the corner.
Neither of them are actually like the sun and moon though. The sun isn’t made of rock so solrock shouldn’t be part rock, they’re both just rock pokemon that worship different celestial bodies.
Besides, they made Lunatone a more supporting role, which makes sense since technically moonlight is actually just reflected sunlight.
So mean~
you mean Smart
I don’t think I would ever use Earthen and smart in the same sentence.
Technically you just did…
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I guess you’re right. I guess that statement is the exception. :3
http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2013/08/my-bad.gif
For some reason I’m reminded of penelope pitstop.
When he realizes earth is seen as the most feminine of elements.
understandable
Yeah but Mythology not just a fact thing…….the old Egyptian believe that the moon whose responsible Crop growth, in Old Syrian mythology which one of oldest civilization on earth the moon light is the responsible for women getting pregnant not with out a man of course but it rise thier fertility.
Actually moonlight does play a role in crop growth because it provides additional sunlight.
The pregnancy thing is because of menstruation being an almost-monthly thing so it coincides with certain phases of the lunar cycle.
Yupe and that prove ancient ppl wisdome……..I want to be like these ppl
Pretty sure lunatone and solrock will be exclusive.
Rattata and Yungoos.
Drampa and Tortunator
Theres some old ones we can assume are, like Ledyba and Spinarak too
People are all wanting to go back to Kalos or Kanto but I want to go back to Unova. It is based on the US so it makes a bit of sense. Won’t happen though because all dreams of dual regions are dead
I don’t want to go back to any of those three.
I agree dual region stuff is dead though, especially for this game.
http://img13.deviantart.net/0c5c/i/2016/266/8/e/midday_sun_and_midnight_moon_by_pixelated_takkun-daima93.png
http://i.imgur.com/iRFKLaG.jpg
Ok I’ve narrowed it down to a few pokemon what do you think?
Glaceon
Delcatty
Stoutland
Delcatty.
Screw being able to defeat things, Delcatty is sugoi.
I bought as last night and I have decided to ditch torchic for skitty as my starter xD
Poor Torchic ; n ;
Torchic isn’t allowed to evolve anyways.
Yes it is, it becomes Combusken and then Blaziken, the Blaze Kicking god 😛
Torchic with eviolite. Best.
You’re getting it mixed up with Torracat
i like littens line better than torchics and especially chimchars
You’re a backwards person.
xC
Blaziken is cute
http://img14.deviantart.net/b38b/i/2012/184/d/5/blaziken_pokedoll_art_redesigned_by_methuselah_alchemist-d55t6ih.png
And gallant
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/thumb/1/14/May_Blaziken.png/250px-May_Blaziken.png
And its mega is one of the few I like
http://www.siliconera.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/mega_blaziken_thumb.jpg
Delcatty with normalize
i think they should all be hit by a Choice Band Sawk Close Combat
https://media.giphy.com/media/aTUrF9TPZYy6Q/giphy.gif
I’m blue dabadedabadie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdZCLpnRphs
I remember this gem
http://i.imgur.com/4lWmrKg.png
Ok wow didn’t expect this many people to reccomend Delcatty
Delcatty is a majestic creature and needs all the love
What should I name it?
Delores.
Thats Evil in its truest form https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/113db6f6ceaaf641ea0fabb90a82effb0288c21bfac8b2ca3010006b135638e3.png
I like Dahlia
hmmm i had a severely horrid name (one that can’t be said in polite company)
so why not call it…. Rashes VonSkrudvick
Only recommending because it’s pretty, not because it’s necisarily good at battling.
very very bad at everything
Well I’m also using Leavanny. B2W2 are so easy anyways it doesnt really matter
Honestly don’t listen to them it can actually be an amazing pokemon to use in battle
[insert Karen, the true winner, quote here]
I actually posted that earlier lol, but truly I used one in my first play through of Alpha Sapphire and it ended up sticking it out until the game ended and did way better than I expected, like way better, it and my Sceptile were my power houses
Leavanny is actually very decent
access to stab Grass and Bug moves IV Razor Leaf/Leaf Blade and X-Scissor and it does pretty well for itself
NOOO DELCATTY IS WHITE 2 EXCLUSIVE
…
Oh wait woah Lopunny
a single tear rolls down my face :'(
*takes the droplet*
*licks*
what the heck earthen ew
http://rlv.zcache.com/your_tears_mug-rff0f179792ff440c818983e79dc306b7_x7jg9_8byvr_512.jpg
still weird
Tough, use a Delcatty anyway
http://t01.deviantart.net/6krgIBeQLZkM0p7oD6439N91aH0=/fit-in/700×350/filters:fixed_height(100,100):origin()/pre12/7bba/th/pre/i/2015/164/a/b/delcatty_by_fuyumicchii-d8x41ej.png
I would trade from White 2 but no
Lopunny
http://orig15.deviantart.net/b12d/f/2007/363/4/f/chibichibi_lopunny_by_shineymagic.jpg
… https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d91f0a5d826ae6efc243a066f5e701c4ac0d2dfa9967a5d6c57973eb5d8ce6e0.jpg
Look I can’t post a bunch of Lopunny it is so hard finding SFW pictures of it
honestly you’d be surprised how many delcatty ones I had to scroll past… Ive noticed that the cat/dog pokemon actually get worse and more NSFW pictures than the humanoid ones :/
>:C
glaceon
Why do so many gen 3 pokemon seem like they were gen 4 pokemon
Because Gen3 and Gen4 were the pinnacle of good designs.
Gen 5 was good too
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/thumb/b/b7/497Serperior.png/250px-497Serperior.png
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/thumb/6/63/530Excadrill.png/375px-530Excadrill.png
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/thumb/8/8e/542Leavanny.png/250px-542Leavanny.png
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/thumb/a/a2/547Whimsicott.png/250px-547Whimsicott.png
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/thumb/a/a6/571Zoroark.png/250px-571Zoroark.png
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/thumb/8/8d/643Reshiram.png/250px-643Reshiram.png
To name a few
Most of those are just above average.
If you’d stuck Galvantula and Jellicent in there I’d be more inclined to agree.
But when you look at the Pokedexes as a whole, Gen5 had waaaay too many bad Pokemon.
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/b/b5/503Samurott.png
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/3/3e/505Watchog.png
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/d/d0/521Unfezant.png
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/a/ad/533Gurdurr.png
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/c/c9/536Palpitoad.png
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/2/2f/550Basculin.png
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/3/35/556Maractus.png
For every bad one though there was like, 3 good ones
Other way around. 3 bad for every 1 good.
Plus male version of the bird is pretty good
It’s another plain-looking Flying/Normal
So is every other bird why is this one bad?
Extra grey, extra plain.
Its all subjective
I like samurott too youre so mean Especially when mr mime is like the worst ever
Samurott is ugly and doesn’t fit in with its previous forms.
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s–IFTptMcx–/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/jc6w23wf5xmx2ojus6aq.gif
That means nothing coming from someone who doesn’t like Blaziken.
I blame blaziken for starting the trend also if we just add a fighting fire horse and cow we have the whole farm.
There’s nothing wrong with Fire/Fighting. Besides, it’s not the Pokemon’s fault, it’s the designers’.
And we do already have a Fire horse.
Fire Snake is in the zodiac
Fire/fighting snake, its tail becomes a fist
I agree, it hurts considering the perfection known as Dewott
I applaud you, not NEARLY enough people credit the beautiful creature that is Jellicent
GEN 3 HELL YEAH!!!!
well i remember reading somewhere that some Pokemon were meant to be in RS were transitioned to DP
Shellos and gastrodon is an example
Because Shellos is in Gen 3’s data.
Ohohohoho!
a BLAZE OF GLORY!!!!
http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/183/188/425.jpg
Delphox expression is the only right thing in that picture XD
So is typhlosions
The further down you go the less good the designs become
Infernape, then Blaziken, Then Tony, then Emboar!
I like Emboar
You mean Emboar then Tony 😛
no
oh stop nit picking they don’t have be so flashy
they are Fire Types and Fire is a powerful element it can consume and destroy everything in its path
they do a good job embodying such a formidable Element
Fire can be elegant too, I mean look at Pokemon like Chandelure.
its a wisp trying to literally burn your soul away
Infernape >>>>>
http://pre15.deviantart.net/27ca/th/pre/f/2016/292/e/d/popplio_final_evo_on_rock_by_the_chinad011_house-dalixcu.png
Not to be that guy but….
Who else here adores Rowlet3? I know a lot do, just trying to take a head count
I like it but it is my second favorite. It’s shiny is perfect though. Best of the three
True, it’s my persoal fave tho
Best starter since Serperior
YEEEEEEESSSS!!!!
(I liked Serp but I personally say its my fave started period, just barely beating out Mudkip)
Grass starters generally have good designs. Chesnaught being the odd one out. Meganium is a’ight.
Tru
(Though Chespin was adorable)
Fire and Water ones are only good in gens 1-4, imo. Popplio 3 is okay, I’d rank it slightly above Samurott.
THATS WRO….
Actually you are really right about that
THOUGH DEWOTT IS AMAZING
Dewott becoming Samurott was one of the greatest tragedies in the world of Pokemon.
Yeah… it’s design was so perfect, picture the fighting/water monster it would have been!
The only thing Samurott had good for it were the swords
This is by far one of my favourite alternatives:
http://i.imgur.com/SawwE.jpg
YOOOOO THAT IS PRETTY MUCH PERFECT
I do! Amazing concept and execution. Only good starter final evo this gen IMO, and the one that kept me conflicted about wanting the chinese leak to be real ever since it came out. Would have loved to get a burrowing owl, but hell if any replacement is good it’s this one!
SAME HERE!!!
(I just don’t like its fingers)
Those fingers bug me too.
I wanted it to have talons on the ends of its wings.
THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN PERFECT!!!!
I don’t mind the feather fingers, but that would legitimately have been much better!
I have a poll I keep trying to get people to take:
http://pokejungle.net/forums/index.php?/topic/162-what-are-your-feelings-about-the-starters-leaked-final-forms-potential-spoilers/
I’ll gladly take it!!!
It’s the closest thing we’ve got to actual data about people’s opinions on the starters 😛
Okay :3
Legitimately surprised I’m still the only negative voter when it comes to Popplio3. Seriously, how that thing can have less hate than Rowlet3 boggles me… Though maybe not so much considering the community here haha, loads of people love it.
You poor unfortunate soul.
Its fabulous, how can you hate it? how can you hate any pokemon?
I don’t hate it (at least, nowhere near the level I hate Tony), I just dislike it. It’s design isn’t that bad, it’s just not at all what I had in mind for Popplio, and is just disappointing to me compared to other alternatives. Popplio was cute, offbeat, and had great promise… I kinda liked those creepy clown seals, and I wanted something that went with the clown theme (despite disliking clowns) and did something with the real world basis (ie used Otariid elements). Instead we get an ugly duckling like progression to a japanese idol/srien, which isn’t a bad idea, just one I find heavily wastes Popplio’s potential.
I regret not choosing hate or dislike for it.
You don’t understand how it has less hate; I don’t understand how it has hate…
Well according to that poll, it doesn’t even have ANY hate here, just one dislike (guilty) :p ….
Though it’s not like the rest of the internet necessarily agrees…
I neither like nor dislike it.
Like a decent amount of people here apparently, which is fair, I can see why it would belong in the indifference zone
I will convert you.
http://pre11.deviantart.net/ff19/th/pre/i/2016/220/2/4/i_could_do_anything_by_kazenohana12-dad3srv.jpg
I think that’s going to do the opposite.
Well its either that or singing part of your world.
That’s even worse.
I know every song in that movie to heart.
Don’t even know what the film is ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Little Mermaid? For real though if you’re going to listen to that song, listen to Sierra Boggess’ version, not that Jodi Benson crap
Broadway version!
Can’t remember the Little Mermaid, I think I accidentally retconned it.
I like the irony of how many people who like the little mermaid also complain about other films having weak female leads who do nothing but pine after a man.
I like the little mermaid and i also like being the damsel in distress. I am the exception to your rule.
Where would we walk, where would we run, if we could stay out all day in the sun, just you and me, and I could be part of your world.
steven universe yay!
IM IN LOVE WITH THIS IMAGE MY FAVORITE STARTER AND MY FAVORITE SONG
I like the water style.
Wait… Nope, still completely betrays popplio’s potential, at least in my eyes.
And that little song makes me want to slap it. Despite the fact I can be a massive fudgy sap …
I feel sad for you.
Well that’s a bit unnecessary/ patronising :p
Should I be sorry you don’t think of it as a massive waste of a design? Nah, I’m just happy you like it.
I’m very happy with my opinion, there are other things to be sad about :p
The only other idea for popplio was a clown…
Actually there were lots of ideas, a circus strongman, a fighter, a dapper/fancy thing, a juggler, a general large seal monster thing.
A lot of them were based around water/fighting.
Just to round it out I really wanted a Water/Fighting starter to go with Chesnaught and the Fire Fighters.
Though you made me realise that we’re finally getting a fighting starterless gen.
We still don’t know for definite that Tony isn’t Fire/Fighting, we’ve only got theories to go on.
We can hope, I’d say they wouldn’t do that again, but yeah.
I LOVE Rowlet’s final evolutions, it’s all I could ask for my little grass Owl. In fact, this is where he stands on my top 5 final starter evolutions:
1. Feraligatr
2. Rowlet’s Final evolution
3. Greninja
4. Sceptile
5. Blastoise
Exactly!!! 😀
Kinda disappointed at the fact that there are only 7 trial captains, I was really hoping there would be 14 trial captains and 4 Kahunas, each one specializing in a different type. But this could be good news in a way, maybe they make it seem like the island challange will be the main focus of the game, but it might just be a small and silly distraction in comparison to the story which should be much greater than any other story in a Pokémon game . I just don’t want the games to be extremely easy or short.
Lol Tony the tiger is the most hated starter:
http://pokejungle.net/forums/index.php?/topic/162-what-are-your-feelings-about-the-starters-leaked-final-forms-potential-spoilers/&_fromLogin=1
Allow to share and opinion and say screw all the haters that is pokejungle.
I dont hate it
You don’t have to be here ftr, there are plenty of other Pokemon websites.
Well I didn’t know this site would be the most negative I’ve seen. Negative sayers are more vocal than positive here.
Don’t leave, it wasn’t like that back in the XY days it just got worse when all the negative nellys flooded the site and they bring out the worst in some of the other members myself included but there are still some awesome people here
I don’t want to start any drama, but I feel like it’s mostly Pharap and Ultron that rub me the wrong way here. If I can say without them getting mad at me, I don’t like em.
Well I hope you don’t leave regardless
im indifferent to it, the haters are usually the most vocal
I mean, I didn’t even like litten in the begining (Mainly cause it looked like every fakemon fire cat ever but edgier) but the final evo messed up in so many ways)
I liked Litten, they killed it.
Torracat is uber cute and sassy too ;-;
Yeah but we already knew about Tony by then, so it was irrelevant.
Tony’s existance just kills the other two.
Yeah, I found this one really cool one that was tiger-y but had a ring of toxic aura around it and it looked SO COOL
Agreed. They should have kept the whole scrawny, indifferent look. An angry fire Pokemon ? How original (!)
As it should be 🙂
I will admit.. I do hate one pokemon this gen more than it
Bruxish?
Morelull’s evo?
Don’t hate me…
Bewear…. I just… it doesn’t look right.. I hate it… and it’s friggin mouth.. ITS FRIGGIN MOUTH IS DISGUSTING
I think Stufful is awful but I don’t mind Bewear so much.
Yeah.. I just despise that line for tarnishing what I otherwise am considering one of my favorite gens
I’ll never understand stuffuls mouth
Bewear is a disgrace to the Red Panda name D;
That’s why Salandit is so important nowadays, BURN IT
How could anyone hate morelluls adorable evo
HI!!!! IM PINK TOAD
He’s way cooler than toad.
It’s skiny as hell, its bulb makes it top heavy and its face looks painted on. It’s like some kind of pink zombie.
Too many of the fairies are pink.
It would look cool if it was light blue. I agree, fairys should be more like angelic type!
I’d be more ok with it, but I’d still want its body to be bulkier and for it to have an actual face instead of something painted on.
I’d also be ok with no face, as long as its not that creepy painted on thing.
its hands down my favourite pokemon this gen and slowly rising up on my fav ever
It’s not the WORST this gen, but top 5 least favorites probs.
Top 5 favs:
1) Wimpod evo
2) Vikavolt
3) Rowlet 3
4) Lycanroc midday
5) Type: Null
Least favs:
1) Anchor (ugh)
2) Alolan Golem
3) Alolan Persian
4) Bewear
5) Litten 3
I actually like the Anchor XD
As it stands right now, I think it’s hideous lol
XD
I like it for what it can be
If it’s in its “action pose,” I want to see what its standard state is
I hope water/ghost or water/steel
I can agree with most of that, I’d swap the anchor and Type: Null though.
I’m surprised 😮
I don’t like Type: Null, they could have made it a beautiful chimera but instead they made it from some really ugly parts.
Its evo is better because it doesn’t have the daft helmet but I don’t like its ability.
I get it’s supposed to mimic Arceus, but I feel it’s a bit late in the day to be doing that and it feels really out of the blue and like they’re backtracking.
It would make sense if it had been made in Sinnoh, but being made in Alola it seems weird to base it on Arceus.
I like its tail tho
I’d like it on a different Pokemon, but not on Type: Null.
And how exactly this should surprise us…
How wrong the Popplio3 haters were?
as the froakie haters and the oshawott haters. Let just wait for Gf to give the memaid a broken ability after the broken move we already know and we can put the haters to rest also this gen.
It already will end up being broken
(I kinda hope they make Robinroot broken af)
http://orig06.deviantart.net/97a1/f/2016/257/3/e/father_to_daughter_by_lordvader914-dahoshg.jpg
xD
gross
I operate on the movie being pg so your automatic naughty thoughts break my childhood.
she literally said “yes daddy”
as in thats triton from the little mermaid.
oooooooohhhhhhh is that what it is supposed to be?
Greninja is eric, samurott is triton, and sirene is ariel xC
it actually bothers me when grown adults say “daddy or mommy” like stop
What film were you thinking of? Lolita? XD
No i wasn’t thinking of a movie i was thinking of
nevermind
Something tells me I don’t want to know XD
Probably not
Oshawott & Dewott > Samurott
Samurott is awful
Is not linear ok, but how can you say samurott is awful when emboar exist? Even Sunflora would be a better choise for a team
I’ve got nothing against Emboar, it’s better than Tony the tiger at least.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/42d8de51feffbc4db4e17dfe0f4ee28aa98c576db59566ea461ab9eead597088.jpg
I fell in love with both of them for this.
Oh my god, this is adorable
It’s not a surprise, it just means I can insult Tony with authority 😛
That is the greatest excuse I ever heard, you are now my role model
XD
TEACH ME YOUR WAYS
Step 1: Make poll
Step 2: Get people to fill poll in
Step 3: Insult the pokemon that do badly
XD
Truuuuu
As with all Pokemon, I’d rather try it first, then judge it.
Just Like Greninja and he will be the most popular then JUST LIKE GRENINJA
Except Greninja looks much worse than the owl or the seal.
I love Sirene so much
Sirens were bird-people though.
what does that have to do with anything
https://66.media.tumblr.com/2466478d2fde7c489df1c75581168c4d/tumblr_ob8nwqXq2H1r9j324o1_500.png
Popplio3 doesn’t have wings
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/99/Odysseus_Sirens_BM_E440_n2.jpg
Ok I don’t care though it doesn’t make it any less beautiful
That may have been true in the original greek myths but nowadays them being conflated with mermaids is pretty widespread, so it’s nothing surprising to call it a siren. “Sirène” is french for mermaids, the Sirenia or sea cows were the real-life inspiration for mermaids…
Greek predates the naming of both of those, and you may be getting mixed up with selkies with the sea cow thing.
Sirens were always avian in one way or another, be it talon-feet or wings like angels.
It’s only modern times that get the origins mixed up. The Latin siren also refered to the avian kind.
The sea cow genus is inappropriately named. Whoever classified them either didn’t know mythology very well, or was potentially French.
My point still completely stands though, nowadays the two are widely mixed up, for better or for worse, so this make sense.
And no I don’t believe I’m mixing anything up with selkies, as far I’m aware it’s a widely held theory that sighting of sea cow tails are one of the main causes for mermaid myths.
The person who named the Sirenia may have been french, but by that time the naming the modern understanding of “siren” may already have been relevant…(It certainly seems to have been throughout the 19th century.) And they’re only “inappropriately named” if you’re being unnecessarily puristic and antiquated with the semantics of the word “siren”. Sirenians aren’t even the only aquatic taxonomic group named after sirens, a siren is also an North American legless salamander.
https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/7298333/Screen_Shot_2016-10-18_at_10.32.03_AM.0.png
Imo, this is one of my fave mons of the gen, only behind the Jangmo-o line, and the pokemon that is my avatar
I can’t wait to find out it’s type. Also, i’d reccommend a spoilertag, you know how people get
SAAME
Pretty sure it’s Bug/Water since it seems to be based of a diving bell spider.
I still would love it
See, I’d say that, if it weren’t for Wimpod, I know pokemon have shared types in the same gen before, there are 2 pure Grass lines this gen, but this gen seems a bit limited that I don’t feel they’d make a dual type like that common to 2 lines. I like the Bug/Dark idea, though I did think electric or Psychic were possible.
It’s gamefreak.
That’s not really a reason. I admit Water/Bug is possible, but it’s the only new pokemon that was leaked that feels like it could be Dark outside of Litten evo.
You might wanna spoiler tag this.
Also, it’s totally bug/dark
Water/Bug
I hope not that make Wimpod not unique.
Well, it’s not unique anyway cause Sirskit, though this time we can hope it stays Water/Bug
That’s I was implying
Well if it is based on the diving bell spider, I still say dark type. Those may be able to go underwater, but it’s only for a limited amount of time. They still need air
Oh god what if they pull a drapion and make it Dark/water?
I’d be bummed. We don’t need a fourth line of that
Exactly, I just want electric/ghost, cause right now only rotom has that type
I want a lot of electric type combos. They’re too often pure type
Yeah, It annoys me that Electric/ghost hasn’t been done more! I want a sweeper with that type!
Electric/Grass
Electric/Fire
Electric/Ghost
Electric/Dark <3
Electric/Rock
Need more of all this.
I have a feeling Golem is Rock/Electric
Well… it’s hideous and I reject its existence.
Anyyyyyy
(maybe marshadow will be electric/dark?
Maybe, although it seems ghostly…
Maybe it’ll be my ghost/electric baby :3
We have to remember that it probably has a unique type. It looks Dark/Fairy to me.
Still :3
DAMNIT I FORGOT
I like that type :3
I’ve been waiting for it 🙂
:3
I like ur avatar by the way.
Thank youuuuuuu
I hope its Electric/poison
That’d be cool, I honestly want electric/ghost.. but I doubt it would happen…
Or maybe Lunala syndrome will happen again
I need to know more about it first, TBH it’s a complete mystery at this point.
tru
I like how we always wanted Water/Bug, yet we want this line we want something else
If you had to be a Professor of a new region, which Starter Pokemon would you give out as your trio? (They have to be from 3 different gens)
I’d choose Squirtle, Cyndaquil and Treecko, though it was hard.
Popplio,Chimchar and Snivy
Rowlet, Blaze, Empoleon
That’s actually pretty clever type wise
I actually did it for both types, and birds
It works out both ways :3
Bulbasaur. Chimchar, Popplio/Froakie
if I was a mean professor:
Chikorita, Tepi/Litten, Oshawott.
How is that mean?
You can go to jail for giving someone a tepig, didn’t you know?
I love Tepig
Mean Professor StarStorm, I’ll take one Chikorita please, and an Oshawott too if you can spare one.
just the johto trio tbh they are awesome, maybe treeko
If you couldn’t have Cyndy or Toto who would you choose instead, it does say from 3 different gens
Popplio, or tepig, I don’t really like any fire starters too much except cyndaquil, tepig and sometimes fennikin
Chimchar,
Turtwig
Piplup
They’re too good to separate.
The rules were from different gens
Hey, it never says that! 😛
But fine:
Chimchar
Snivy
Mudkip
Rowlet
Mudkip
Cyndaquil
Chimchar, Totodile, Rowlet
Because someone has to, let’s show some love for Beltigre. I’ll be honest, it took me by surprise too, but I grew to love it over time and seeing how it’ll look in game makes me like it more. So I don’t care how many legs it stands on, I don’t care if it look like a fighter despite being Dark. I think it’s legitimately cool, I won’t acknowledge naysayers who’ll throw the same reasons they don’t like it like half of the internet, even if it is just an opinion. NOW HELP ME SPREAD THAT LOVE!
The only way you can show it your real love is picking it also if it will become fire/fighting.
It’s like nobody thinks it can be any other possible type -_-
Wasn’t it stated to be Fire/Dark anyway?
No, it’s still unconfirmed.
Yeah, but people see biped muscleman and immediately think Fighting.
The polls still say it’s the most hated starter this gen.
Doesn’t mean people can’t love it.
Aye, all 3 of them.
Yeah, Popplio used to be the one everyone ragged on. Now people who don’t like Lucha Tiger will give up their fire kitty and choose the derpy cute seal.
Rowlet’s evo is still more liked than Popplio’s. Not by much, but just slightly.
I bet a lot of the ones switching will be Litten-to-Popplio though, since Lucha Tiger and Mermaid Seal are complete opposites.
Plus people who want type balance and want to use Lurantis or one of the other Grass types.
That’s a more likely reason.
As it has always been with the bird starters.
Eh, I didn’t like Empoleon that much.
Blaziken was good I’ll admit.
I remember reading somewhere that Beltigre’s belt grows hotter and larger the more passionate it gets, than proceeding to crack my ass up visualizing it
R34 artists will have a field day this gen
R34?
Rule 34
Oh… right… carry on lol
I am ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
It’s not a belt it’s an organ ……..did u know evil is that Muhahahahaaaa
Ima laugh when it’s fire/fighting
And if it doesn’t?
laugh anyway probably
I will laugh a lot at him …….and my lough is very super effective.
I’ll still laugh cause it’s ugly
Not exactly a pretty face yourself friend XD
Ultron is beautiful. But it matters not because I can always make myself a new body if I choose.
Except human. Vision beat you to it.
Well to be fair, I made that bitch. He’s nothing without me. I also literally fused with Hank Pym so I think I got him beat.
My friend is going Beltigre and Bewear
If its fire fighting… Im gonna have a field day with Robinroot (if it can one shot) :3
XD exactly
That’s honestly one the reasons i really like the design
its fits it so well
And i can see my future Heatigre fighting so hard Blaze activates and causes the belt to go into overdrive causing it to burn so ferociously that every hair on its being ignites in a terrifying inferno of power
Still funny that you were team Popplio when they were first revealed lol
#TeamFabulous
i’m still kinda sad about that
i love Popplio i really do but i just can’t stomach that final form
its like this: I like Popplio but hate its evos, i dislike Litten but like its evos
Why are you so anti feminine things. Like honestly you remind me of stewie from family guy.
I’m curious as to why you don’t like Litten
ehh too Neko
http://giffiles.alphacoders.com/155/15579.gif
buzz off
My personality denies you that privilege, if you admit annoyance is caused by me it only encourages me. Especially when your personality and blind hatred seems to be based off nothing important other than your own personal taste. x3
i repeat feck off nobody cares
I don’t care what you want me to do~ : ) <3
fine i’ll just block ya
I have the same mental problem you have, you do not get special treatment, hun~
Cats are the superior beings.
cats are jerks
and they’re scientifically proven to be jerks
I have a lot of cats and they are a bunch of little jerks.
in Veterinary Assistant school they’re just just mentally unpredictable
it even states you cannot predict what a cat would do under any given situation
Only if you’re jerks to them, otherwise they’re quite well behaved.
It depends on the cat. One of mine will swat you for just walking past her.
What kind of cats do you have?
Plain ol’ cats. Strays mostly. One was a barn kitten, one I found abandoned and bottlefed. We’ve got 7.
That explains why some of them are so feral.
The nicest and most fun of the cats we have is like a Down’s Syndrome kid. He’ll play hide and seek with me. He’s not really much of a jerk, he’s more like a “Buddy the Elf” man-child-cat. 17 lb. kitten.
That’s not unusual, that’s what they’re supposed to be like. Most adult cats like doing kitten things 😛
(Until they get reeeeeally old, give up, and start pooing on your carpet)
This cat actually has mental issues though. He’s cross-eyed, clumsy, not very smart, and he doesn’t act quite right. The other cats play with strings and stuff (including my testy one), but it’s not the same. We had another brain-damaged cat a long time ago; it was from getting sick with spinal meningitis.
That’s all the more reason to be kind to him.
We’ve never had many majorly sick cats, the ones that have been sick naturally usually recover quite quickly. We’ve had a few that have been unnaturally harmed though.
I don’t tease Fang (the tardy cat), he doesn’t seem to mind what I do to him. He’s never scratched me on purpose. It’s a different cat (Cherry) that I tease a little bit and who scratches me all the time. She’s like a little Clint Eastwood.
Tease her less, she’ll scratch you less.
I looked up Clint Eastwood… I have seen precisely one of his films and it was Casper, in which he does nothing but a cameo 😀
I like getting scratched.
Anyway, she’s like Clint Eastwood because she’s a badass with squinty little eyes. You know, like, “Go ahead. Make my day.”
But never fear: she doesn’t take the teasing too much to heart and is sleeping on my legs right now. And sometimes she scratches other family members who *don’t* tease her just because she’s a little jerk. But she’s my little jerk.
~Masochism~
Again, never seen any of his films 😛
I still think you should tease her less.
*also has cat on lap*
AWe. that is so precious. my first cat which I was given after I was born was found all alone in a parking lot on one of the states my family passed through on their way down to Florida. I try to find stray cats homes all the time :3
Be nicer to it.
Mine are both perfectly fine.
But she hates love and joy and all things good! XD
Nah, she’s just kind of testy. I tease her a little bit; she hates having her tail touched.
Don’t tease cats, if they don’t like something and you keep doing it they’re naturally going to think you’re doing it because you don’t like them so they’ll take a dislike to you.
E.g. Our cats don’t like being picked up so we only ever pick them up if we have to.
Anyway, it’s natural they wouldn’t like their tail being touched, they use it for balance, it’s not decorative.
I carry my male cat around like he is a baby and he has never once tried to get down or anything.
It depends how they are raised in their infant years and on their individual personalities. None of our other cats disliked being picked up, it’s just these two, so we presume it was probably because of something that happened before we got them.
When he was a kitten I carried him everywhere because he mother paid more attention to the other four they were all females.
She teases me and licks her butt while sitting on my stuff and purposely destroys my possessions. If I want to tease my cat by petting it nicely, I’m going to do that. She’s a little freeloader, and if she scratches me, I take it because I deserved it.
All cats sit down lick their butts, they don’t have toilet paper 😛
And they attack things because they view all unknown objects as toys, hence my dressing gown ties are torn to ribbons 😛
I’ve only never been intentionally scratched by one of my cats, only ever as a side effect of playing with them because they missed the toy and got my hand instead.
I feel kind of the same way about Popplio. I think I could learn to love Seal Zoolander Merman, but I already like Flaming Roid Rage Tony. Not a big fan of girly things. Most of the Pokemon I like are either badass-looking or derp-looking. Some are cute, but I don’t know. Don’t like Delphox much either.
Who else once the games come out is gonna lock their doors and beat it in a day like X and Y?
(waves) with a friend too!
i might have to physically stop myself from doing so much in a day
I had to pace myself on Luigi’s Mansion dark moon
the earliest games i remember beating in a day are….Kirby Squeak Squad and a weird Finding Nemo game
No, I go super slow. Plus I’ll have school and work.
I want to at least try to take it slow this time.
Managed to make XY last 3 days or so.
Nope I take my first play through slow. Especially this time too. I wanna enjoy and soak up all of what Alola has to offer. lol
I’m in this same camp! I take as long as possible. And considering the story this time could potentially be very deep I’m really excited lol
Same here! I can’t wait to play a Pokemon game that actually has a deep story! And before anyone says anything yes yes I know BW/BW2 and Platinum exist lol
probably a week, especially because break starts literally when they come out
…and to you if you have stuck with popplio until the very end.
http://pre08.deviantart.net/6261/th/pre/i/2016/285/9/2/popplio_by_recolor2001-daksch9.png
https://twitter.com/RealShigeruM/status/789904164373532672
http://img02.deviantart.net/0baf/i/2016/131/e/a/rowlet_confirmed_by_archappor-da26b0q.png
AWWWWEEE
Can’t wait to experience this moment
https://i.imgur.com/eryvCsh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/oLLD9HE.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/UYFjcZh.jpg
Which moment will you be expieriencing of the three first?
The one I’ve been defending obviously XD Litten is pretty adorable.
But that Evo… It doesn’t deter you?
I honestly love it, though I also love Chesnaught and Samurott
Same. Chesnaught and Samurott were my first choices for XY and BW.
They were my choices too except I had Delphox first, but due to data issues I ended with Chesnaught. I always did end up with the manly starter.
After diving into why it looks the way it does, I grew to like it more and more than the idea of a regular tiger.
Totes adorbs lol
then litten pukes up a flaming hairball in your eye
and Popplio blows a water balloon at your face and its exorbitantly filled with mucus
What about Rowlet?
uhhh either it flings razor sharp quills at you
or it just spins its neck and just doesn’t stop
https://67.media.tumblr.com/083076af4702ed6a3e0d351733878116/tumblr_o7atl3lfds1qf45cco1_500.jpg
Yesssss XD
Rowlet leaps off, and perches on your head before napping there :3
Well, my old cat was killed by an owl so, theres that. Now it’s time for revenge.
Dawwww can’t wait to hold my little fluffy owl. I wish the Pokémon following you mechanic would return from HG and SS.
This is the scene where you pick up the starter you and Hau didn’t pick…
AND THROW IT IN THE VOLCANO AS A SACRIFICE TO TAPU KOKO
Would you describe Pokémon as Science Fantasy?
Yep
Ehh, I’d argue more science fiction then science fantasy. But that’s just my opinion.
See, it has a whole Fantasy element to it, as in the Pokemon themselves, mixed with the Sci Fi, so Science Fantasy fits perfectly.
It can be argued Zelda is Science Fantasy too but that’s a whole different ballpark.
zelda is fantasy fantasy
Time Travel, Alternate Dimensions.
Though they are by magical means.
I did say “Argued”
Not really. The pokemon are really magical in any sense. The games go into great detail in explaining how they function in the world. Even legendary pokemon do have some scientific basis to them, and when things are left vague, its usually due to the fact that their really hasn’t been enough research on them.
I believe you need to actually research what Science Fantasy Is.
Did you know Star Trek is Science Fantasy?
Wait no. Star Trek is Science Fiction, Star Wars is Science Fantasy
Gene Roddenberry himself described it as such.
And I think that your overreaching what qualifies as Science Fantasy. Yes, in the absolute loosest definition of Science Fantasy; Star Trek can be seen as it, but it clearly isn’t. Its a show that almost never deals with anything of a magical or explainable nature, and even when it does, it does try to apply science and logic to it, where fantasy doesn’t. Same with Pokemon. You CAN say that it has some shared ideas of fantasy tropes, but its clearly doesn’t use those tropes in any traditional way of writing fantasy.
Zelda is magic-grade scifi, all the technology is magic powered and usually confined to specific places.
It’s kind of its own genre.
Science Fantasy can range from minor things, to major things.
As such Zelda falls in there, along with many other Games like it.
TV Tropes has a list : http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ScienceFantasy
Zelda could be scifi if they felt like explaining it, but they never bother explaining the technology.
I don’t think it’s very helpful categorising it though, the category name would be so long because naturally it’s a magical-comingofage-fantasy-adventure-puzzle game with elements of rpg and scifi, but then there are individual games with extra genres and it just becomes a massive blur.
Just categorising it as ‘Zelda-like’ is much easier since it encompasses all that plus the tropes like ‘link wakes up’, ‘pot smashing’, ‘legendary sword’, ‘legendary artefact’, ‘hand in toilet’ etc
Breathe of the Wild looks promising.
Heres Link using the Nintendo Switch
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/00b6cd5d073e6169fa37e863ea2aebb2e0f2b9bd3137134b7cf00d574f9ad2ef.jpg
Aye, it’s the reason I’m going to buy a Switch.
The game starts with Link waking up.
To paraphrase Aonuma “we tried to break the conventions, but some of them we didn’t manage”.
Yes and no.
Some of the technology appears to be quite advanced, but only Pokemon-specific techology like the Pokedex, the PC and the Pokemon centre’s heal machine.
On the other hand, most people don’t own cars, there’s no internet, homes tend to have fewer appliances and a lot of people lead simpler lives.
Plus the only implausible scientific advancements are the Pokeballs and teleporters, pretty much everything else is plausible.
Do you ever wonder where those cars and lorries are going on Skyarrow Bridge?
Cars are probably very common we just don’t see them alot for some reason.
That’s the exception, not the rule.
They are all over Sun and Moon, the truck in Red and Blue, the truck in RSE…
The one truck, no other cars.
The truck that moves you in (and magically vanishes into the forest), pretty much nothing else.
Sun and Moon is the first one to feature them fully regularly (assuming other places are like Hau’oli) and it’s only enough to be comparable to the early 20th century or something.
All the regions have had more boat travel involved than car travel.
G5 was the first time we saw a plane, but G7 is the first time we’re going to see a flying plane.
There’s definately something weird about the tech level.
Well I mean why the heck would you worry about making cars and roads while in development. You see them a ton in the anime
The anime is practically a different universe though. A universe in which the lead cannot win a league.
The game itself is oddly low on vehicles.
And why would they have cars anyway? If they’ve had Pokemon since prehistory they would never have needed cars, a lot of Pokemon can outrun cars.
It’s just weird. The Pokemon world’s tech level makes no sense.
Than there is Black City
That could be down to a weird architect, but yeah, it’s odd.
It’s cool tho
It’s cool, but it’s still weird.
Yeah
Honestly I only ever take the games as an abstraction of what the pokémon world is supposed to be, ie, something closer to the manga or certain aspects of the anime (most of the worldbuilding that isn’t nonsensical or childish). I know this is somewhat artificial, but the fact is gameplay necessities and development constraints mean that we necessarily get implausibly tiny towns, no cars, etc… And that quite obviously can’t be taken as what we’re supposed to imagine the pokémon world is.
Thus I think the lack of certain technologies seems to me more attributable to the lack of point in them being shown (as you say, they’re no the focus!) rather than an assumed absence, though honestly with no proof of their existence, both points of view are entirely tenable.
On the other hand, Pharap still has a point: though the anime and manga do have cars, they’re definitely not as prevalent as they are in our world, which is only fitting since as said, they have pokémon which are better than cars in countless respects.
It’s also as Pharap said a fantasy world full of mostly nice people, as opposed to harsh reality, (though there are limits, we do get villains who occasionally go full homicidal even if they’re barely ever succesful as it wouldn’t fit the franchise, and also a decent amount of past wars hinted to have caused massive amounts of destruction) so that certainly has an effect on the way that world works. On a sidenote it’s interesting to remark that though the anime usually is tamer than the games in terms of evil and violence for obvious reasons, the manga (which is often seen as the most faithful representation of the pokémon universe as intended by the franchise creators, and yes I know those comments mostly applied to the RBY arc but honestly they feel like a mandate that Adventures has thus far respected) often goes a little further with violence, depth and slightly more adult aspects in it’s bid to stay coherent and somewhat realistic. This leads me to wager that if we got a more complete picture of the pokémon world that wasn’t so constrained both by the video game nature of the series, and by it’s intended E for Everyone audience, it would be darker and closer to reality (I think pokedex descriptions are quite probing hints :p ). And as it happens, we have something that gives some amount of traction to that theory, in the form of pokémon Generations!
Interestingly the games have had a 7+ from Pegi in recent years.
Yeah E for everyone was honestly hyperbole haha. They wouldn’t want to go fully harmless because that’s monstrously constraining, but they still need to stay at that “fun for all the family” level. Honestly I think more mature spinoffs (something on the manga’s level or maybe even little more mature, but I absolutely don’t mean some edgy violent reimagining, that would just be wrong IMO) would be a very refreshing thing for the series to try.
It would, but they won’t because Nintendo likes to maintain its friendly facade and hit as much of the audience as possible.
Would you need technology if you had pokemon?
Yes, I probably still wouldn’t leave the house 😛
Plus I enjoy programming and video games too much.
Besides being in the Pokemon world and Pokemon being in this world are two different things. Most people in the Pokemon world are nice, this world is full of miserable hateful people.
Trueeee
Electric power plants?! What is this unheard of fantasy? That technology is completely unachievable. Leave me to my butter churning.
Living in an Amish Paradise ♫
Here’s that gameplay footage from NicoNico if you haven’t seen it yet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBdop2HIf20
I really need to preorder my Solgaleo/Lunaala DS..my local gamestop has one left!
Too many Rowlets? I’ve got just what you need!
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/84ESsm4UtZg/hqdefault.jpg
Wat if this is the concept of Alolan Dugtrio ….the blonde Albino Moles. http://i2.walesonline.co.uk/incoming/article5745723.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/mole.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pele%27s_hair
I saw that long time ago.
That’s kinda cute..ish
me @ the terrible customization in XY
https://66.media.tumblr.com/0818fe6003f85831417b9343be7a9bc4/tumblr_muqpxnnBgW1qa41k6o1_540.jpg
THAT BITCH!!!
Dark…. Eh…?
(Twitching slowly as I pull out a ball holding a sharpedo)
funny that the text under this picture was literally : “bitch”
As long as males are allowed long hair ♫
I will be happy with any crap that we’re forced to wear ♫
Because I’m Tacky~ ♪
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zq7Eki5EZ8o
I want long hair too …..But can male have white hair?
Yes a male can:
48 seconds in, bottom left panel:
https://youtu.be/yhNJ7pX12Tw?t=48s
Here’s a still:
http://i.imgur.com/ih2ngR2.png
Long white hair will be perfect though.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f322c64601728943d7a6f44b349fbd9f8b573c78749367647548354bc4439d5a.jpg
*Pants him*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX7wtNOkuHo
Come on, it wasn’t THAT bad. You’ve got to give it some credit for allowing us to customize at all.
On the one hand customisation was a step forward 😀
On the other hand, the hair for males was too short >:C
The starting hair for males was decent length. But I don’t see why they couldn’t let us make it longer. I feel like the female options should’ve been available to us as well.
All tea, all shade
Have the numbers of Pokemon in the Pokedex been leaked yet?
Yes? No? ; n ;
Should be 802 unique Pokémon.
I mean the individual numbers used by the regional Pokedex for each Pokemon.
Some have been shown, but I don’t recall any off the top of my head. Eevee was shown, but we don’t know the island where it was caught, so we can’t really deduce much from it. I believe Ledyba was captured in the treehouse demo though, so that’s Melemele at least.
As long as we don’t have a full list my quest to track the numbers before the game’s release will not be in vain.
Pikipek is 10, and Ledyba is 20. Both on Melemele from the treehouse demo.
Got those. Give me 5 minutes and I’ll make a post.
Tada:
https://disqus.com/home/channel/thepokemonlab/discussion/channel-thepokemonlab/regional_pokedex_numbers/
0:55
https://youtu.be/TyIkvadJU1Q
Added
Glad I could make a contribution!
Just wish I could get the @mentions working properly so it would turn up like @Wes62518:disqus instead 😛
Dunno if they work in articles though.
Also that’s kind of what I was hoping for when I first made the channel, but I put off making it public for so long (partly because effort, partly because I didn’t know how many people would find it useful, and partly because I was worried it would creep too far into speculation territory) that it became less viable.
If it ends up being a semi-success I’ll probably do it again next generation.
I thought I saw they had found Jangmo-o’s number (or it’s evolution’s), but I don’t recall what it is nor can be bothered to look for it :p
If there isn’t a full leaked listing then I can go ahead with my idea to write a list of all the numbers that we know.
IIRC no list found, so go for it!
Woop, I’ve already got 7-9 lines ready 😛
Smogon has one apparently.
http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/pokemon-sun-and-moon-demo-datamine-collection.3584810/
Look underneath the spoiler for TMs
WAIT A SECOND
Outside of Magearna
ARE THERE ANY EVENT MONS?!
Potentially Marshadow or the UBs, but possibly not.
Depends if you think we know the whole dex or not.
I don’t think we do
And Marshadow IMO is the only pokemon that comes close to my favorite since Victini
Marshadow’s nature is an item of debate, but if we’re going with the idea it’s our third mascot trio legendary, then no… At least not that we know of.
Maybe they could-gasp!-make event pokémon actual Patch content this time, to truly surprise us? (fat chance, that creates compatibility issues)
That would be amazing tho
Eh, honestly event pokémon just aren’t that exciting to me since they decided to make them boring by removing in-game quests that made the lore surrounding them feel alive. They just feel like inorganic bonuses now.
I’ve been too disgusted by the size of the new batch of pokémon to care much about a few new legendaries :/ …
True…
The reason it’s hard to patch pokemon in is that then they have to force people to be 100% up to date before loading the game or they risk the game crashing/corrupting.
I’m still convinced that Zygarde is the third legendary, being the trio master of both Xerneas and Yveltal, and Solgaleo and Lunala.
Aside from the ground thing it doesn’t really fit.
it’s the Order Pokemon
there must ALWAYS be order
Unless you’re Gen2 or Gen1
Sun moon and earth?
I actually had a thought about marshadow. I don’t think that is its true form. I think it’s Marshadows version of the *pre-evo/lesser form* shared by Solgaleo and Lunala
Yeah, a lot of people think that’s a possibility!
I’m not sure if everything got leaked, there is still a small possibility that there is more to see, but I have a feeleng the leaks didn’t cover the event mons
I hope they’ve finally learned to keep event legends out of the code and save them for updates.
Yeah :3
There may not be, but I still think there’s more.
I’m late to this discovery, but I made a visual for proof: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c3a8d2925b934f836e1ec2b0b6a0eb9daab5a1bcded86610b7988d92bf0d2eb8.jpg
And they’re side by side in front of the tree.
http://i.imgur.com/8xKhfvo.png
Oh, and that guy uses his Magikarp boat to escort the player to the raibow islet.
Wait. Who are they?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFRpFkZFrOU
I can’t see that vid or even its thumbnail right now. Care to explain the identity of the mysterious strangers?
The video is a segment of QI in which Alan Davies plays the ‘Nobody Knows’ card to signify that nobody knows the answer to the question being discussed.
As of now, we only know that they’re NPCs, likely Veterans.
I’m assuming they’re the same people as the ones outside the forest purely because we know the one who owns the magikarp boat gives the player trips to the small islet.
They could be different people, but an unnamed NPC giving you lifts to an island would be a bit lame.
Still possible though.
Well we also see the female here, so I’m leaning more toward unnamed NPCs.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3e7f4b216d4815ae6b11ece99985c70830de87af60a3c201b2b3d82b4aabf03c.jpg
*pulls out hi-res version*
http://i.imgur.com/jNQhR18.png
Damn, looks like it probably is an NPC.
Oh well, it was worth hoping I suppose.
I was too lazy to find the video. I already had that photo saved ages ago for some reason. :p
Ditto.
I have combed through most of the videos and I’ve got about 100 hi-res screencaps saved to my imgur XD
Who here is gonna wear a hat? I know I’m not. You know… Unless the hat is a Pineapple.
I probably won’t unless there’s a floral snapback.
When we went to Hawaii, I was with my aunt and uncle and my cousin and my parents and brother. My cousin was obsessed with snapbacks and I was like, “Oh yeah. I’ll buy her this.” We were in a giftshop and I saw a snapback with the Hawaii Volcanoes National Park logo on it (that’s where we were) and it looked really good.
So I was gonna get it and the bus was about to leave so I didn’t and I was all guilty. Then when we got to the bottom of the Volcano, there was another giftshop. I went in there to get the hat and turns out that item is only sold on the upper giftshop. I still feel guilty even though it’s not my fault. That’s something I do.
Moral of the story: Hawaii Volcanoes National Park is dead to me.
Oh man that’s a bummer. At least you went to Hawaii though! That’s more than I could even wish for!
It’s great! I would definitely recommend it. It’s worth every cent.
I would go in a heartbeat if I could. The college I’m looking at takes suggestions for studying abroad, so maybe I can recommend Hawaii if I end up going there! :p
I feel like college in Hawaii will make you miss out on lots of things. I’d suggest going when you’re older. Maybe when you have kids about my age. You’ll enjoy it and you’re kids are old enough to go around by themselves on the cruise ship (That part was the best part)
Also go with a sibling or sibling in law. Unless, of course, you want it to be romantic. In THAT case, go alone or when you’re kids are around 13-15 because they won’t be any trouble.
Sorry. This is getting outta hand. I’ll stop.
Protip: don’t have children or siblings 😛
Being an only child would stink.
Why?
No annoyances, no sharing, guaranteed own room.
No downside 😛
Eh. I love the sibling life. I hate too much attention and I get scared easily when I’m alone. Maybe that would be different if I WAS an only child, but yeah….
Everyone is always alone, trapped in a cage with their own thoughts.
My thoughts are filled with stuff that I sometimes don’t like, but most of the time, I love to lock myself with my own thoughts.
I know that feeling… only child life sucks
Haha. Sounds like you’ve had time to plan all this out. 😉
I would probably end up in Hawaii at some point anyway simply because of my interests. I’m planning to major in marine science and oceanography, so I could easily go there for work some day.
I used to want to be a Marine Biologist. Now I’m more lenient towards the medical field, but my interests will always be in ocean life. I love saltwater wildlife.
Everyone in my family wants my to go into pharmacology or regenerative technology, and while I’m good in those areas, the ocean is what really draws my interest.
My dad used to work in a warehouse and then a supermarket. My mum has been stuck behind her desk all her life.
I’m anticipating ending up doing one of those jobs.
Yay ambition!
Well my dad used to be a life guard, and my mom strived to be a marine biologist, but we were doomed to living in a landlocked state. I’m destined for the water, and I’m going to do my best to make it happen.
Must be nice not being average and doomed to mediocrity 😛
Good.
Landlocked, huh? I can relate. We have lake Michigan, but freshwater wildlife isn’t as good.
I don’t really have an explanation for why my mind changed from wanting to be a Marine Biologist. But I will always love marine biology
Strawhat or bust.
Fresh palm leaves or dry palm leaves?
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-aS8kn5kgj3U/UD4-xv-2I_I/AAAAAAAAACE/LoHXfnJyCFE/s1600/549474-default_image__luffy_s_straw_hat__object_page_.png
Oh I thought you meant this: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/eca8d0fcb36e7a1bd9e8194829c3328b0d1c0c83e568b077cea106625a2731ae.jpg
Too thick and uneven 😛
That’s traditional Hawaiian.
They can keep it.
You will be cursed by the Tapus
*wields Murkrow with Super Luck*
Alternatively:
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/69/2b/43/692b43bed632e3a5e7f6aebda0dbe79d.jpg
Does this suffice? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6496678f960f53911f8a74b9f609d13a6392f02d59e2017143f36ce6754fb0a9.jpg
Yeah, like that, but less holes around the edges.
I dread to think what that guy did to that hat to make it that dishevelled.
:He chewed it like he’s chewing his hand.
Prolly not all the time unless there’s an interesting one. I’m glad we get to take it off now tho. I kind of like to change my clothes sometimes to match the season and being able to the hat off is a cool addition and adds to the customization lol
Seasons in Hawaii: Rainy, Dry
Well yeah the idea makes more sense in Kalos. When I meant seasons I meant more like real life seasons lol
BTW, rainy and dry are “real life” seasons in tropical areas. Rainy, Dry. Sometimes there’s rainy, cold & dry, and hot & dry.
Can confirm. I live in Darwin (Australia), which is classified as having a “tropical savanna climate.” Our seasons are literally called “Wet” and “Dry” seasons (though many split the seasons into 3: “Dry”, “build-up” – when you start to feel the humdity, and “Wet”). Indigenous Australians described 6 seasons (which describe the variations in early Wet/Dry etc.).
…I used to be fairly interested in learning about weather 😛 – I would’ve studied Meteorology if I didn’t hate Physics so much haha!
Depends on what’s available. I’d want a beret, one of those artsy looking ones…
…after I enjoy hatlessness for the first time in main series history.
I’ll start out hatless until I can get a beanie hat thing. If it doesn’t end up looking good I’ll just go hatless
I’d just like to ask for clarification on the 7 trials bit? How exactly does it say that there are seven trials?
Is there a picture with trial medals in a case and only seven slots? Because if not then 7 trials could really mean a myriad of things. For example it could mean 7 trials for melemele island. It could also mean seven trials for Ilima alone. We simply couldn’t know. If anyone has clarification it would be appreciated.
I’d answer you if I could, but I haven’t seen any sort of clarification.
I could tell you if I had a transcript but it’s too long to sit through the video just looking for a number 7
Well it’s later than intended, so I’m off.
No joke this time, I’m all out and there’s only about 5 people here anyway 😛
Completely off topic, but I posted a topic in the fourms about fakemon, is that the right place to do so?
I’m pretty sure it works where you put it, in pokemon general/gaming…
Okay :3
I love how this ad is on this site: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/352d9a9180eaaed35f87a990384d4f9af4ea4c36cb4d8094b3587013f3f72218.png
T H E Y K N O W
(Stealthily dabs)
Always wanted a Sandshrew evo that was more Armadillo than Pangolin so I doodled one. Not happy with the back but ehh. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d891cc697a9ecf503127b936304414e9bded53e64b4d5683b74123da84534246.png
This is adorable
Thanks 🙂
Have a Seaqueen as well https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a54295eeeeb0503f789d5c1704cbb624f7e1bbef6be83c7d9f80a7e2aa506b29.png
also very cute
I just realised, if that is the whole Pokedex then Theres more Gen 1 Pokemon in this game, 87, Counting alolan forms and their original counterparts as the same, than Gen 7, 81 INCLUDING Ultra Beasts. and that’s sad. And the 5 Gens between get between 33 and 15.
So
Gen 1: 87
Gen 2: 30
Gen 3: 33
Gen 4: 29
Gen 5: 28
Gen 6: 14
Gen 7: 81
They could have spread it out a bit more evenly. Though a Pokedex of 302 is fine cause X/Y felt over Crowded. I hope however there are a couple of more new Pokemon, even if they’re outside the regional dex, I doubt theres only 2 Mythicals, but still, Gen 5 had so many more pokemon they could have added, I mean, every Gen get’s it’s Psuedo apart from Gen 5, and 2.
We know Pinsir is #175 though. Assuming each island PokeDex has equal amounts of Pokemon like the XY PokeDexes, that’s at least 700 right there. Of course they’re probably not even, so the number is likely a bit smaller, but 300 is too small, I think.
Pinsir is probably number 175 in the overall Alola Pokedex.
The dataminers confirmed the Alola dex to have 302 pokemon
Damn no T-tar or Hydreigon in the main game? I hope they became available after the story is beaten.
So if we assume if there are 7 trials that means 7 trail Captains; we may possibly know all of them. We have the 5 officially revealed, Iilma Mallow, Lana, Sophocles, Kiawe.
We then have the girl in the demo trailer who has the captain badge thing in her hair, the ghostly looking girl. Then we possibly have Kahili, the character the NPC mentions in the demo, who is said to be great at golf and off concurring the world. I mean I maybe wrong about the last one but gamexplain seems to think she could be one to so, what are everyone’s thoughts?
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Thanks EarthenWarrior ?
Are they hinting at something? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evvO5Gcl-mo
Did they just make an AMV?
I think so. They did the same thing with Ash’s Froakie to hint the Kalos League final and Fire Shuriken
Maybe he’ll mega evolve charizard. Probably not
Maybe he’s bringing it to Alola for Poke Ride. Idk lol
In these days Charizard was my best pkmn (I love classic drawing)…….since Gen 3 Charizard art turn bad.
Me too, I think the classic drawing style was so much better than all the new technology
http://i.4cdn.org/vp/1477317690759.png
Fire/Dark <3
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0cd6ae92c2ab27fcad1bdf4f23696a519ff9321e962577896ae4817070e79aa2.gif
I will forgive u just cuz ur avatar.
Oh, boy, a walking trope.
Appearance customization has been a fun side feature of these games as of late, my only question is when will they allow us to customize our Pokémon a la’ Cosplay Pikachu?
Individualized Pokémon just seems to be a fun thing for us to do regardless if the costume gives them a new ability /move or not.
Customized Pokeballs/Seals were a good thing too. I liked having Ele-Seals for electric Pokemon, red fire seals for fire ones, blu fires for ice, foamies for water, petals for grass etc.
Yeah, that was fun
Idk if that’ll ever be a feature. It would take a lot of programing. We were able to do it in the pokemon musical but that’s cause they were 2D immobile sprites and not ever used in battle. It would probably be really cool though if they brought it back in some manner though
The fact that The Unovan Fossils are in the regional dex tells me that the “Hawaii doesn’t have fossils and that’s why Alola doesn’t” idea, is crap.
It actually tells me that they just decided to reuse a pair of Older fossils, the ones they chose made sense. I wonder where in the region we get them though, that’s the question. (Also Aerodactyl but he was in Kalos too)
The Sinnoh fossils are also in there. I’ve been saying the geological argument is bullcrap for ages, and that’s not even the only reason it’s wrong. In fact any other excuse for no fossils I’ve seen doesn’t hold up. This is just GF making random sh*tty decisions as usual and cutting themselves off from a whole pool of design inspirations, and they don’t deserve anyone making excuses for them over it. Shame on them.
But Hawaii doesn’t really have any indigenous species to be fossilized
Yes so?
The Fossils in past gens didn’t fit the real world country either, so it’s no excuse anyway.
The only reason I see is cause theres old fossils so there no need for new ones.
Wrong. Hawaii has a bunch of subfossil species. It also has some marine fossils, even if they’re pretty unexciting. But even that doesn’t matter because GF has never given a toss when it come to biogeography, and that includes fossils. We could have had pretty much any sort of fosssil mon here and they could have found a logical explanation. I’m sorry, but they have no excuse.
whatever the pokemon designs are going down hill
Why are you always so negative?
if you’ve been depressed for….7-8 years you’d be too
Don’t assume I’m not, but I’m at least trying to be positive and not just being on a downer all the time
yeah no, this was my last chance for a genuine Ground/Fighting type and i didn’t get it
now I gotta wait until Gen 8
That is a very trivial reason to be on a downer about
that’s just one of the many disappointments about gen 7
but i’m not gonna get into my track record of my life
Well you gotta take the good with the bad sometimes. It’s not the end of the world that something didn’t happen in a game that you wanted to, and you don’t need to bring the negativity to other people, even if you’re depressed thats not really an excuse to be an arse
there is no more good just constant disappointments and just having to settle
I suggest looking for the bright side of things, it helps. albiet difficult sometimes, instead of just looking at things and been dissapointed and negative all the time. If you’re dissapointed and negative all the time you’re not really gonna stop feeling depressed.
Just be a bit more positive, start at the little things, like the fact that they even make these games at all.
yeah i haven’t seen the bright side of things in a LONG time and they ain’t just gonna start flooding in
No but if you don’t try it’ll never happen will it? That’s what I tell myself every single day, after every failure, after every dissapointment, after every little thing I mess up. It helps, even if I do keep failing and messing up. It’s the little things that help.
Atleast you got another ground/ghost and a pure ground type, and I am guess alolan Dugtrio is going to be ground/fire. Atleast there are a few ground types. I wish there were a few more steel types. I guess I am going to force myself to use Togedemaru.
Because its fun
I disagree, recent gens have been full quality, but I’d certainly say Game Freak seem to be lowering their standards when it comes to game development ethos
disappointed UBs are catchable
It does seem odd but put it this way, at least it adds to the number of new Pokemon,
I wonder what will make them stand out though from other Pokemon though outside of being a story element.
Triple Typing perhaps?
I predicate triple type many time that will fit with other dimension theory.
Y this could be disappointed it’s beautiful.
Because I wanted them to be high difficulty bosses instead of just non-Pokemon designed catchable monsters..
Ditto, and I want them to be a Threat not just implied
just watch them be even more annoying and overpowered as Legends
We still don’t know that though do we? The supposed ball that we catch them in doesn’t have a name programmed in apparently, it comes up as n/a when we throw it which leads me to believe we won’t be the ones using it if anything. I used to be adamant that we could catch them based on their shinies but now I’m thinking that we won’t be able to for various reasons
I had a theory that Ultra Beasts are just undiscovered Legendaries.
I’m not. They should be catchable. 😀 They look and act like Pokemon, so to me there just new Pokemon from an alternate dimension.
here’s another name for the final evolution of Rowlet, apart from Sherhood and Archood.
Bowpoke, Bopoke (bow + Mopoke)