Pokémon Generations Episode 8: The Cavern

Pokémon Generations Episode 8: The Cavern has just been released on the Official Pokémon YouTube Channel.

In The Cavern, we follow Archie and some Team Aqua Grunts to the Seafloor Cavern as they search for the legendary Pokémon, Kyogre.

What do you think of the latest episode? Enjoying the Generations journey so far?

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936 thoughts on “Pokémon Generations Episode 8: The Cavern”

  1. Guys help, I’m planning out my tertiary team for my Greek Deity run for Sun and Moon and I can’t find a good Pokémon for Hestia (who’s described as the goddess of the hearth, home, and family).

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    • I haven’t watched these episodes because when they first did that small arc of this a few years ago I saw clips of the Squirtle/Charmander fight and I nearly quit Pokemon because it made me sad and uncomfortable.

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        • Like what if they showcase the use of guillotine. I would literally bawl. I am so sensitive I know but its just. It kind of blows away the childhood fantasy of them not dying and stuff.

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          • These do seem a bit more tailored to a mature audience (sorry, I don’t know how else to put that), but they still haven’t been too bad.

          • I am nearly twenty two. I’ve always considered myself very mature for my age however I don’t like seeing things hurt and or attacked irl or in fiction.

          • Yeah, that’s what I meant when I said “I don’t know how else to put this”, I didn’t mean to offend anyone.

        • I don’t think Squirtle/Charmander fight should be censored. I think iut kinda showed how disgusting and deadly battles can be if you don’t put love and care behind it. Maybe I’m just reaching for reasons because I don’t like censorship of art

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        • If I could physically control both the urge to do it and the paranoia that leads me to do it, It wouldn’t happen, I haven’t developed that control yet perhaps maybe it would be better not to post in the first place. I am now confused and conflicted. Ps. I feel like nobody takes anything I say seriously or pays any attention to me. ~

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          • U should not be perfect all the time, and u shouldn’t care that much how ppl look at u…….for me I think ur clever person so don’t let the dark swallow u will be like create ur unescapable hell by ur own.

        • I liked the intensity and ferocity of Kyogre’s power. Something the games never managed to portray all that well.
          This one is up there as one if the better one imo, but I seriously loved the two that Looker episodes about Giovanni

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  2. so i have a little non-pokemon esque question (but still relates to it)
    Say you were sucked into some kinda fantasy realm and the realm’s deity grants you a Guardian Familiar to assist you in your travels
    it is composed of three animals and a Element (Fire,Water,Wind,Earth,Lightning,Ice,Plant,Metal)
    what would yours be?

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    • A White peacock twice the size of a human male, with Dolphin echolocation, and a jaguars intelligence.. Flower oriented. Roses and Cherry Blossoms.

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        • I was thinking its was more defensive, its feathers able to shield me and the scents of the flowers were hypnotic and or projected illusions. Shunran from Inuyasha combined with the peacock villian from kung fu panda 2

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          • Yup, peacocks are my favorite animal in the world exotic cats my favorite domestic. Plus Jaguars are very intelligent they also have the most humane execution method of all animals by biting the back of the skull crushing it and severing the spinal cord instantly killing.

          • hmmm if there was only way to mix em all together
            what about a large cat with large wings sprouting along its limbs and a splayed tail that holds more feathers but a simple plant peacock speaks for itself

          • Well I might just end up drawing it. Its hard for me to describe because otherwise I would write a two paragraph description. Its very ornate, delicate, majestic, and feminine.I would imagine the Cherry blossoms and Rose vines intertwining with the feathers every time it spread out it would scatter the petals on the wind the sweet scent intoxicating others. I can’t think of anything else to be honest.

          • and any other abilities i was thinking
            One special attack that helps battle
            a Field ability: mount, climbing, breaking stuff
            and a buff that increases one of your powers

          • If I ever actually got superpowers I would assume they would be based on personality or demeanor in which I would probably get pheromonal persuasion or a toxic death kiss based on either side of my mentality. Even though I would want Marluxia’s flower powers.

          • that’s all well and good, but my idea was you get sucked into a fantasy realm
            the realm offers you a ancient familiar to protect you
            the natives of the world recognize the familiar and offer to train you in a variety of classes
            and yadda yadda save the world from evil as dictated in legend

            kinda like pokemon with fire emblem

    • Mine would be a a huuuuuge avian/canine creature, the fusion of a Orange Beasted Falcon (head, wings proportionate to the thing’s body), a husky (white and feathery on the top part of the body, orange and feathery on the front, black andnfurry on the bottom part of the body, and dog ears-the colours aren’t husky like, but the shape of the features would be), as well as a peacock for the tail feathers, which would be black and white with straps of gold.

      It’s be a wind Elemental.

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    • a Stone Bear/Armadillo/Mole
      a towering bear with a powerful set of 9inch claws, and a overlapping leathery shell which it can fully curl into a ball

      a special ability is it doubles in size and it grows spikes and mows down crowds of enemies

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  3. CHECKMATE (probably a rash declaration but who cares lol)
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9696293e20e3a5ba6c22a6fb66c5cfb2012b6fe3bc99a1de4761ced461fa6d4f.png So. I’ve heard people say the strange souvenir isn’t a pokemon. I’ve heard people say that the strang souvenir is the Tapu Ula Ula when closed. I’ve people say that it isn’t from Alola. So I’m here to settle the score.
    (Ok so nothing actually PROVES it’s from alola except there are major hints, such as it being from far away, like Alola is, and I mean come on, how could a tiki not be from Hawaii?)
    Do I win yet? xD

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    • It’s possible that it’s generic, represents all 4 Guardians.
      Or that it’s what one originally looked like at that point in development.
      Though it could be another legend OUTSIDE the regional dex.
      We have all the new ones in the regional Dex, but the National Dex isn’t there, like Gen 4 there could be new ones, but outside the regional dex, like Heatran,Regigigas,Cresselia and Phione, this might be where a Third Legend is if one exists.
      I’d love to believe this isn’t all either but gotta accept it until shown it isn’t really.

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      • Nope. Represents “a pokemon venerated as a protector” not “pokemon venerated as protectors”.
        I will not give up hope that there is more, can’t accept this! I’ve seen too much evidence to think this is all.

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        • Then go for Second or third point, either it resembles what one originally looked like in development, or that it’s outside the regional Dex.
          Or that it’s what people in alola imagined it looked like who hadn’t seen it, as it seems only a rare few actually do see them. Meaning it, to those people, could resemble any one of them. Theres very simple explanations that just “Oh it looks like this so the real thing must”. Remember this game has been in development since at least B2/W2 were released.

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          • National dex I’d go for, but if it looked like that in development why is the item unchanged in SM? Also they don’t look one bit alike, so unless design phase did a 180 then I feel like this proof.
            These are sorta stretching it IMO.

          • These ideas aren’t stretching it at all, they’re giving viable examples. We don’t know what goes on behind the scenes, designs changes a lot and I’d imagine the Guardians would have been hard to design. Theres not really much Viable evidence for the existence of more pokemon within the regional dex as they all can be explained.

            However if you want my opinion, I think it’s very Possible the Strange Souveneir ISN’T an Island Guardian. The Island Guardians seem to be based on Aumakua, Gods who manifest as Animals. My Point is, the Strange Souveneir isn’t based on one of those. It’s actually closer to the 4 Tiki Gods, Ku, Lono, Kane and Kanaloa. Granted the 4 Guardians may have basis in these too, however, theres bound to be at least 1 more Mythical, unless this is a really short Gen, so either if there is no more outside the regional Dex, theres bound to be one in the Mythical section, and it could very well be this. Perhaps in charge of the other 4.

            Any of these ideas could be possible tbh it’s about thinking of all the possibilities based on the facts we’ve been given.
            I have no doubt however, that we will be given a reason in S/M.

          • Yeah, I can agree with this. I’m just using what I can to try and prove this isn’t all. It’s not like there’s no evidence, there’s plenty as far as I’m concerned.

          • I’m compiling a list rn, but it’s incomplete, I have 3 reasons I haven’t typed up yet. I can post what I have if you want?

          • Sure but, I’ll take some guesses based on what I’ve seen.
            1) No Fossils – Theres no Guaruntee, sure I think it’s odd but they don’t need to exist, I don’t buy the “Hawaii has no fossils” idea either, France doesnt have T-Rex
            2) Gamexplain said – It’s possible they saw Geodude, the Legend “Pre Evo”, Pikipek evo 1 and Persian. As well as a couple of overworld sprites of people keeping later Pokemon as pets, and might have seen some regular old ones we didn’t know of too.
            3) No Third Legend – Not needed, though I think it’s odd too after all this time, I’d have loved if I was right about it being Earth not Eclipse, though it could exist outside the regional dex.
            Those are the 3 common things I see, but if you’ve got some that aren’t easily rebuttled I’d love to hear them.
            There is a qoute however from when S/M were announced, that went along the lines of “We’re trying not to do the expected”

          • I had 2 and 3, I’ll cut those out of what I post. 😛 (However, it’s unlikely that GX saw Persian/Pikipek2 in the first two hours).
            1. Ash-Greninja is nowhere to be found in the datamine, meaning it’s stored somewhere else. Before you say “these are pokedex stills, of course it isn’t there”, Mimikyu and Wishwashi’s form changes are in there, so it makes no logical sense to not include Greninja’s form change.
            2. The 6 (counting the two after Mimikyu as one because of form changes) missing models cannot be totems. Firstly, these are pokedex stills, and if totems are just pokemon with an orange aura with no real unique features, they would not have a pokedex still. Secondly, we know of 7 trial captains, and there are only 6 totems here (again counting the two after Mimikyu as one), so even in the highly unlikely event that they are totems, there are STILL missing models here.
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            I know it doesn’t seem like much but I had to cut out a few (plus the strange souvenir thing which you’ve already seen.

          • 1) Ash Greninja not been there semi makes sense, it’s not in the regional dex, it’s form change would be with it. However, it’s IN the Demo, so it’s odd that it wasn’t there, unless the Miner just though it wasn’t reasonable to show it, as it would need to be there somewhere, however it’s important to note The Dragon totem WAS in the demo and also didn’t show up.
            2)They are almost certainly Totem Models, as proven by the one after Raticate. It lays between Raticate and Spearow, who are right next to each other in the dex (The Zygarde one is for Cell and Core sadly though that would have been awesome). The reason theres only 6 (Counting Raticate and Gumshoos as one, and both Mimikyus as one), is because Wishiwashi doesn’t need to be a totem due to it’s School form. If you add Wishiwashi as a regular boss Pokemon, it makes 7, which corresponds to the known Trial Captains, AND their Types, been Normal, Electric, (Water),Grass, Fire, Ghost and seemingly Dragon.

            So I don’t think these are enough evidence for more pokemon. The only true evidence we have, which is also disputed for reasonable reasons, is the Strange Souveneir funnily.

    • I agree they don’t look the same, but who knows how far the designs were developed back then? I feel it may just be an unused Pokémon design, where they decided later to take it in a different direction. I would like it if there’s more to it though.

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  4. Alrighty, since the comments have slowed and Earthen’s already done one, I guess it’s time for ‘Fairy spamming non Pokémon questions part 2: he’s only doing one or two this time’

    If you could live in any fictional world, what would it be?

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  5. I liked this episode a lot.Once again the acting was pretty decent and the overall flow made it feel great and exciting to watch. I’m glad they did one episode each for both the teams. I wonder if they’ll do another Hoenn one or go straight to Sinnoh

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  6. Alright my bros and brodettes, if we lived in a world where everyone was a Pokémon, what Pokémon would you and your family be? (Don’t have to mention specific family members, just if your parents were two different Pokémon species in this hypothetical scenario. Also, it this world it’s a fifty fifty chance of being the mother of father’s species, not ‘always the mother’ s species’)

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    • I would be a Lopunny, My daddy would be a Machamp with a goatee, my Mother would probablly be Froslass because she is an frigid transparent, my brother would be a Vigoroth, my sister would be a Kirlia but a sporty one.

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        • My parents and I are very different. Thats relatively unfair due to the reality that people are all different. I share nothing in common with either of my parents looks or personality wise, the only thing that we are alike in is our bank accounts. In essence I am just going to then physically alter them to give them personalities. My daddy is a lopunny with the build of a machamp and a goatee, my mother is sporty, my sister is a buneary with her ears in a side ponytail, and my brother is a bulky lopunny with a male figure. Its a deformity which is an occurrence in real life breeding.

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    • Making the species match one of the parents probably wouldn’t work in most cases, a lot of people are very different from their parents.

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          • That’s not what I meant at all

            I was saying that it’s not possible to have a complete different species/breeds come from the pairing of two other completely different species/breeds

            For example, you’re not going to get a chihuahua from a poodle x pomeranian couple

          • It doesn’t fit because I’m describing a completely fantastical scenario and it’s literally the closest thing to it despite being so loose

            And it does make sense. If you breed two different Pokémon, it’d only be logical that the offspring is the same Pokémon as one of the parents or at least a counterpart of sorts.

            Just as crossbreeding two dogs is only going to give you offspring with traits that come from the parents.

          • If we’re already half throwing logic out the window, can’t we just throw a bit more out so we can say what pokemon would actually fit family members instead of having to settle for second best just to fit the offspring rule?

    • Given how my parents get along I’m going with Seviper and Zangoose. My mom’s Chinese sign is the snake so she can be Seviper. Not sure which one I would be.

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  7. FleurNyaa, Pokejungle is a very welcoming place. Yeah, okay, I understand where you’re coming from, there are lots of places on the internet that can get messy and judgemental, but I’ve been on Pokejungle for 5 years now and it’s become like a home for me on the internet. We’re always happy to have new members and they soon become part of this big family we have. Now here’s a formal welcome: Hey, I’m Green, Welcome to Pokejungle. I hope, and know, you’ll have a great time here.

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  8. @Pharap I have a completely random question for you: I’ve seen you say before that you think there is more new pokemon than what we’ve seen in the leaks, yet everytime I present some evidence you seem to try to debunk it/counter it with something else. If you don’t think what I’m saying is a hint towards the dex being incomplete, then what compels you to think it’s incomplete?
    I hope that didn’t get too hard to understand there at the end lol.

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    • I’m open to both possibilities, but I’m only going to pick a side if the evidence is compelling enough. I will happily refute arguments for either side until something tips the balance.

      The main reasons I’m not discounting the possibility are the circumstances under which the leaks ocurred:
      A) The stats and types were reported as being missing.
      B) Stills of the pokedex were posted instead of full models and textures.
      C) What we’ve been given still seems somewhat lacking.
      D) The size of the final game compared to the size of the demo and what sort of information the demo encompasses.

      But my faith in GF is thin and I think it’s also still plausible that this is all we’ve got and as I once said before, the detail of the region probably still takes up most of the space of the final game.

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      • A) Wouldn’t stats/types be in a different area than stills though? Unless you mean why did they scrub those but not the stills?
        B) Don’t get this one.

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        • Why would nintendo leave Pokedex stills of the Pokemon in and not the whole model with textures?

          When you select a Pokedex entry the Pokedex goes into full model view so leaving the textures and models would would break the Pokedex. Leaving them out suggests they actually stripped the Pokedex feature out entirely, which should mean they’d also strip out the Pokedex stills, but for some reason they’re still there.

          It just doesn’t fit that they’d strip the models and textures out but leave the stills there, they’d at the very least be aware they’d done that. Not to mention some were intentionally blank for some reason. Seems obscure.

          So it’s either:
          A) they genuinely had to leave them in for another reason
          B) they didn’t think someone would manage to break into the data or
          C) they were left there intentionally

          A could support either, B supports the ‘this is all’ theory, C supports the ‘there may be more’ theory

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          • Ah, I believe I understand now. Thanks for explaining!
            That’s a pretty solid observation, and it makes me wonder why they would do that. Did they think we simply wouldn’t notice, or are they messing with us?

          • Anytime.

            I think people have noticed, but mostly just the people well acquainted with techy stuff, and few have thought to question it.

            If they thought nobody would notice, they were almost right.

            Like I said though, there are things that could explain it, but only those with the cracked code in their hands would be capable of confirming those things.

          • Probably because I wrote that in a different order to how everyone else is now going to read it XD

            ‘they’ in the second bit is Game Freak/the programmers.

            The last paragraph is referring to how having the code would make it easier to identifiy if the Pokedex stills were actually needed in the game or if they might have been intentionally or ‘accidentally’ left in.

          • But what confuses me is, in the third line “if they thought nobody would notice” notice what? Sorry, I’m sorta out of it right now.

          • Wes said
            “and it makes me wonder why they would do that. Did they think we simply wouldn’t notice, or are they messing with us?”

            i.e. Gamefreak thought we wouldn’t notice the missing models/textures if Pokedex stills were available

          • I’m having fun feebly trying to poke holes in this, even though nothing I say will actually confirm anything lol.

          • Most of the stuff you’ve shown has another equally possible explanation or is somehow refutable, which means it’s still anyone’s game.

          • Good, but not completely irrefutable.
            Maybe just make one big list/article and keep adding to it or something 😛

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