Elite Four Showdown: Kanto

Greetings Junglers, Evan here! I’m here this time with a new Showdown-series! This one works exactly like the last one. So pick your favorite and discuss them in the comments!

LoreleiFireRed_LeafGreen_Lorelei

  • Encounter 1
  • Ice
  • Dewgong, Cloyster, Slowbro, Jynx and Lapras
  • Name: A siren whose voice lured sailors.
  • Trivia: Lorelei is the only Kanto Elite Four member who doesn’t use two Pokémon of the same species.

BrunoFireRed_LeafGreen_Bruno

  • Encounter 2
  • Fighting
  • Onix, Hitmonchan, Hitmonlee, Onix and Machamp
  • Name: Brawn, bruiser or brunt
  • Trivia: None of Bruno’s sprites have ever shown him standing up.

AgathaFireRed_LeafGreen_Agatha

  • Encounter 3
  • Ghost
  • Gengar, Golbat, Haunter, Arbok and Gengar
  • Name: Aghast or ghost
  • Trivia: Although she is a Ghost-type specialist, all her Pokémon share the Poison-type.

LanceFireRed_LeafGreen_Lance

  • Encounter 4
  • Dragon
  • Gyarados, Dragonair, Dragonair, Aerodactyl and Dragonite
  • Name: A lance used by knights
  • Trivia: Lance’s grandfather is the elder of a famous clan of Dragon Masters.

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968 thoughts on “Elite Four Showdown: Kanto”

  1. I have to go with Lance, although I love Agatha and Lorelei.
    I think it’s based on the fact that I never did make it to the E4 myself and is based more so on design and the fact that I know Lance from GSC and HGSS

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  2. I have always loved Lorelei. When I played PKMN for the first time and I went to the Elite Four I was surprised because I didn’t even know that there was an “Ice type”. In Gen I, the ice types are very rare and there are very few trainers that use them. So when I fought her I was like… okay, another Water type gym leader. I’m gonna finish her with my grass types… and then she started Blizzarding everywhere and I was like… OMG, WHAT DA HELL IS HAPPENING.

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    • Agatha, however, was quite disapointing. It was like, “hey, I use terrorific ghost types” and then uses an Arbok and a Golbat. I was kind of… seriously? do you even know what a ghost is? I mean, I know there was only a ghost type line back on those days, but, in that case, I wonder why Nintendo didn’t make her a Normal, Flying or Bug type. It would have had more sense, as there where more pokemons and attacks of these types.

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    • Basically open up PSS(the thing you have to pull up to do any battles or trading with other trainers. Its the yellow tab on OORAS where you can pull up pokemonamime and super training), select wonder trade, select a random pokemon for your pc that you have no intention of ever using, and hope you get something cool on the reviving end. I got a legit shiny machop the other day.

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        • yup. Really its the easiest way to get rid of the pokemon you breed, but have no use of. So you’ll often get pokemon with hidden abilities that just had bad iv’s or a bad nature. Othertimes you’ll get early route pokemon from people playing wonderlocks. And every once and awhile you’ll get a genned lv. 100 shiny with perfect ivs, and its best hold item.

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  3. Going with Lorelei because of the manga. I never really was a fan of Agatha. Bruno isn’t bad, but fighting type isn’t my favorite. Lance is alright, but 3 dragonites in his champion team is dumb

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  4. I finished watching the entire Breath of the Wild analysis. I seriously think André deserves an Academy Award for his dedication. I should drive up to San Francisco and give him a spray-painted statue.

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  5. I feel like this should’ve included both Kanto and Johto. What if we have Bruno win both times, or will the next one just include the new three?

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  6. I voted Lorelei because of her story on Four Island (and because all the others were bland, including Lance until the next games fixed that).

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  7. Lorelei for obvious sexy reasons. lol. Lance is still an awesome Elite Four member. I would have voted for him if he wasn’t already Champion of the Indigo League.

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  8. So honest thought that came up while marathoning the anime. Since we know that Mega’s have all but been confirmed to be returning at this point, I wonder if they’ll be taking a page from the anime and making Mega stones be displayed on the models ingane before being used. It would be a cleaver nerf as you would see instantly if the pokemon has a megastone or not, and honestly it doesn’t seem like it would require much work to add something small to existing models. Any thoughts on the idea?

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    • I think it might be cool to see something like that, and I think it’s feasible. The only thing I’m wondering is if you’d be able to customize the devices that can hold the mega stone, or if they just make one model for each different pokemon.

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      • I could see just having a single model for every pokemon, with Charazard and Mewtwo being the acceptations of course. Like it wouldn’t be hard to make a little wristband for Gengar, or maybe a little bow for Mawile.

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  9. Wait… If Ash-Greninja exists because of a special Bond, then why isn’t there Ash-Pikachu? I mean, It would be stupid but that would be the only one that makes sense.

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  10. Looking for a Skrelp to store in Bank for future playthroughs (maybe SuMo) but I only have X. If anyone is willing to trade me one, I’d be very happy 🙂

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  11. Why in the name of Arceus can Seismitoad and Kingler not learn waterfall?! I was researching Pokemon to use and I’m very surprised by this stupidity

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  12. I’ve decided a way to play through SS. I made a roulette of all the obtainable Pokemon in HGSS. Now I’m gonna spin it and see what I get. (Not including starters)

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    • I had this sicko idea for doing a World of Warcraft Nuzlocke
      See how long you can progress without dying because if you die you must delete the character and start over

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    • I have one I just finished on X, my own rules. Since the Kalos pokedex is split into three, I used only the first Pokemon from each pokedex (My starter and the first Pokemon I saw after getting my Dex upgraded). I plan on using one Pokemon from each island when SM rolls around.

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      • As naming themes? I suggest colors, mythology, or desserts. :3
        If you do colors, Prism is a good name for the player. When I did colors for Black 2, I did Light for my player and Dark for rival

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    • I’m doing a Y Wedlocke now (near the end of it), definitely fun and challenging. I heard Platinum is super challenging, and that’s just hearing from a Nuzlocke perspective, so good luck 🙂

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    • Evolock:
      -No evolving allowed, you must use form-1 pokemon only (with the exception of pokemon that have a child form, in which case their form-2 is permitted).
      -No evolite.
      -No pokemon who aren’t capable of evolving (e.g. Kangaskhan).

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    • the only run I was able to do is mono type run. I have no patience to force restrictive rules on myself. ive done a mono
      water: Leaf Green
      Poison: Green
      Bug: Emerald
      Normal: Alpha Sapphire

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  13. Before I go to bed, I just had a challenge idea.
    You can only use pokemon of the type of the previous gym you fought. After defeating another gym, you cant progress until you have at least two pokemon of that type. Beginning of the game is free, You can use what ever you want. Nuzlocke and Dupes clause are optional

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      • As someone pointed out though earlier in these comments, it has been confirmed already that Megas are returning on Pokenchi(I think I spelled that right) by Masuda himself. In fact given the 2017 merchandise reveal, its very likely we’ll have new mega pokemon as well.

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  14. The vote button is still broken for me.

    I’d vote Lance though.

    Lorelei is pretty forgettable.
    Bruno’s kind of cool, but easy to beat.
    Agatha looks like she should be sweeping the floors with a broom rather than pokemon battling.

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  15. why does everyone say agitha uses ghost types? she had an entirely poison team. she’s clearly a poison type trainer. anyways, voting for her, she’s the only interesting one here.

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    • Because:
      A) In gen 1 there were only 3 ghost pokemon.
      B) She was the only elite 4 member whose entire team shared a type, which wasn’t intentional.
      C) In FireRed/LeafGreen, the famechecker claims: “Agatha’s Ghost-type Pokémon are horrifically terrifying in toughness.”
      D) In her FR/LG rematch, she replaces one with Misdreavus.

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      • ah neato I didn’t know that. kinda funny how lance is actually a mono-flying type champion in gen 2. I thought it was also kinda funny how she was replaced by koga who was supposed to be a poison type trainer as well.

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        • Yeah, they didn’t really thing things through in the early generations. In gen I there were only 3 dragon types, 1 dragon move and no way for dragon moves to gain STAB. In gen II there were precisely 4 dragons including the original 3.

          Replacing her with Koga made sense. The game was supposed to be set later on and she was already the oldest elite 4 member ever. (Maybe she died… spooky thought).

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    • I’m guessing because Gengar’s line was the only ghost types in gen 1 so it would be hard to fill her team out with just Gengar and haunter. I do agree that she should’ve been poison though

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    • It’s because there are 3 Ghosts types in Gen.1 so she would have for a team

      Gengar
      Haunter
      Haunter
      Gengar
      Gengar

      If she only used Ghost

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  16. well guys tomorrow’s the big day another info on Pokemon Sun and Moon,which means we need to get everything set up for the Big Show,so let’s cross our fingers and see what cool new Pokemon we’re going to see next! 😀

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  17. Am I the only one who is getting a bit tired of all this gen 1 love? I mean, I thought that during the 20th anniversary they would have celebrated all pokemon not only the first 151. Now, Gen 1 has the greatest number of Mega Evolutions (15) after gen 3 (20) and has really nothing to do with it (Gen 6 has just Diancie and is the generation in which it was introduced). Now, Generation 7 introduced unique Z-Moves and the Alola Form and just Generation 1 is getting both for now. You know what, I’m bored of seing Charizard getting something new, I know it’s a famous and loved pokemon but I’m tired of it. And I’m tired of Mewtwo too. Why didn’t they make a remake for 3ds if they wanted to make them shine again? Cause gen 1 at the centre of each new generation is not cool any more imo. I want some love for forgotten pokemon not just for the famous ones. I want an Alolan Cherrim with a mega evolution and a Cherriium Z that will destroy the metagame.

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      • they are epic just because you were a kid when you played it. Greninja could kill them one by one till the end with a better ability and a more original design, yet they will be epic anyway. There’s no rational sense in loving old pokemon more then new ones. It’s just an emotional thing, when people will understand that they will stop saying 1st generation was the best.

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        • Gen.1 Trumps Gen.6 20fold imo it is dead last in Best Generations yes it has some good ones but a lot of things from it are worse than Gen.1 story wise at least Gen.7 so far Trumps all past regions so that’s good imo!

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    • I agree. I’ve been playing since Red and blue and I think Generation 1 had some terrible designs and was all around a bland experience. Nostalgia is the only thing keeping it relevant. There were a few good Pokemon from that time but the Pokemon made now are much more unique and interesting

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    • Apart from the Mewtwo thing, I totally agree.
      They’re desparately trying to make the gen 1 era fans come back.

      They should just let it go and focus on the true fans who actually stick with the series and embrace some of the newer pokemon.

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    • Gen 1 is the gen that started it all so it kinda makes sense for them to get the attention. If gen 1 would of failed there wouldn’t be a 20 year anniversary.

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  18. I don’t see how Lance is winning. He was one of the more bland ones in Kanto. I’d understand voting for him in the Johto polls, but this is Kanto where he had little significance in both the games and the anime (I don’t know about the manga though). If I recall correctly, none of them appeared outside the league, save for Lorelei on Four Island in the remakes, and only Lorelei and Bruno appeared in the early anime seasons.

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  19. YAAAAAAAAAAAY just got a call from the local Gamestop, I’m included in a small group of people who are eligible for a limited edition ”SuperPokemon fan” of Sun and Moon 😀 😀 😀

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  20. Remember that 10do rumor that the NX would be revealed tomorrow? It’s seriously getting crazy, I don’t know what to believe anymore. Yesterday everyone came to the conclusion that it was all a ruse due to the picture posted below. Now, the website posted a THIRD article about the topic, asking people to wait until tomorrow to pass judgments about the website’s honesty and trustworthiness, as well as leave their media partners and associated communities alone. This is not a humorous joke any longer, if that is what’s happening.
    http://10do.de/fileadmin/files/10doTV/NX_Controller.jpg

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    • It’s always interesting when full websites and communities post about rumors such as this. Fro individuals it makes sense that they could be lying and making stuff up, but when an established website talks rumors up as if they’re real it really gets you thinking. Do they have any reason to lie? Would the small amount traffic before they’re outed as fake do them any good in the long run? What do they really have to gain form posting lies as facts? Hard to say for sure, but it is always fun to see what happens.

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      • No, they don’t. I’ve been reading their comments on Facebook and YouTube and longtime fans insist that 10do would never engage in clickbait such as this. I just feel like they would not be taking a joke so seriously and responding to criticism in this serious fashion. I can’t say I’ve seen anything like it when it comes to practical jokes.

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        • Well either way it certainly interesting. I guess we’ll find out tomorrow. I imagine we’ll get a quick pre-announcement to get everyone ready and then a few hours later have a full one…..that is if there’s any truth to all this lol

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          • Exactly. We’ll get Pokemon news regardless of what happens. If 10do does drop a joke image or video, I’m excited to see it blow up in their face. I just don’t see it happening though…it’s practically suicide on their part. Also, everyone claims that the controller in the image is a Sega Genesis or Saturn controller, but the angles don’t quite fit. I’m not sure what to make of it…

    • Yea, I doubt it. Tomorrow is solely just going to be Pokemon News, why would Nintendo have a random, unknown event when the NX is something so huge. I read in some NeoGaf threads that this was actually a fake joke. I believe the NX will be reveal on September 16th, similar to the comment on Emily Rogers WordPress.

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      • To be fair, the Pokemon news is at 6AM and this supposed event is at 7-8AM (PST), and Pokemon isn’t owned by Nintendo and can probably make independent decisions. I’m still thinking this is a joke as well, but it’s just odd how they’re insisting they’re not joking around.

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  21. I’m surprised we haven’t gotten the typical, “This, this, and this will be revealed in the next update. Believe me or not, but my co-worker who saw the video says this is what it entails.” As dumb as those fake leaks are, they’re still fun to discuss.

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  22. Well I’ve decided since I have my team almost ready for tournament (still need 3 to Lv.50 and Evolve 1) so I’m gonna play yellow version my team I want

    Pikachu
    Snorlax
    A Hitmon
    Charizard
    Venosaur
    Blastoise

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    • Swap Hitmon for Nidoking, and that’s the team that I had for my Yellow playthrough.
      It’s up to you whether ya want type coverage with the elemental punches on ‘chan, downside is that they’re all special type moves, or just a punch ole Lee that doesnt have as many good moves, but they’re all decently strong haha

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  23. I love how I get a day off today and pokemon decides to reveal its info tomorrow during the middle of my school day 😛

    Lol, it’s fine though. I can watch the announcement at lunch

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    • Platinum Nuzlocke so far:
      Luxray (Corona)
      Empoleon (Speed Boat)
      Sneasel (Frostbite)
      Gallade (Sentinel)
      Scizor (Link)
      Rapidash (Blur)

      But I took a break from that to play white 2, where my team is riolu and growlithe.

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  24. Ok. So I allowed myself to respin on one of the options I got and I chose Stantler to respin. I got Miltank. So I’m gonna let you guys decide. Miltank or Stantler?

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  25. Nintendo just shut down “No Mario’s Sky” a free game that takes the random generation of No Man’s Sky and makes Mario levels out of it. What is wrong with you Nintendo?

    They retaliated by changing some sprites and calling it No DMCA’s sky

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    • Two things to keep in mind:

      1. most DMCA’s come from Nintendo of Japan, and the Japanese business world is very cutthroat and strict. They will shut down anything that could be a risk to their business.

      2. Copyright law’s really kinda weird where you have to defend it like crazy. Like letting anything slide, like the game in that case, allows for anyone else to make a case for their product. So for example if someone creates a rom hack it has to be shut down due to the fact that if they didn’t, it would mean that anyone would effectively take Mario assets and use then in any way they wanted without Nintendo’s permission, and could use that one case of letting a fan game slide being the justification as to why they can do it. the legal system sucks sometimes, but you gotta do what you gotta do.

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  26. extremely off topic but my potty mouthed brother will not stop saying the C word and keeps going on and on about free speech and PC bullcrap

    do you guys feel that people should try to limit cussing

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  27. So after playing through SS,OR,Pt,B,B2 and X strictly using Pokemon I’ve never used before, I have a new found love for Altaria, Lilligant,Grumpig, and Heliolisk. Also, Probopass, Hariyama and Malamar can die in a fire. I hated them the most

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  28. I played around on Showdown to form a Signature team for me, and I think I have it, they are awesome in every battle I have them in:
    Infernape
    Mega Heracross
    Heliolisk
    Rhyperior
    Samurott
    Swellow

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  29. What are your favorite characters, including minor ones, from the franchise overall? I love Wally and Tabitha (anime, not games), but my all-time favorite will always be Benga. I really want him to become relevant, but it’ll never happen. ;(

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  30. So some of you said that you needed to breed some Pokemon for the tourney. Does that mean you bred them and then leveled them up to 100?

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  31. I just bought an iPhone 6S today! I upgrade from an iPhone 4. Now I could finally install a DS Emulator to play Pokemon Diamond and play some Pokemon GO!

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  32. Would anyone like to be my friend? 😀 here’s my friend code if you do 😛
    2981-9140-1349
    I usually spend time breeding stuff,wonder trading and designing fakemons. I don’t battle that much though

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  33. I think it’s really stupid that Nintendo shut down the online features of the old games! Don’t they realize that lots of people still play them???

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    • While it does suck, it’s understandable. Keeping those online features isn’t exactly free for them and its really hard to justify keeping them up when they’ve long been replaced and the number of users who would use them is abysmal.

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      • I know, it just sucks that I can’t play with some of my old friends because they don’t have the new games and they live far away.

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  34. Victor: greetings my fellow gamers I am Victor the gaming Tiki,I heard your pleas for something new in Pokemon Sun and Moon,since tomorrow is going to be the big day ,I kindly ask if you make a choice tribute to see which will be in Pokemon Sun and Moon next,so kindly step up and choose your offering.

    David: I like to see The Return of the Mega Evolutions 😀

    Victor: Okay, Next!

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  35. Well I’m gonna play Yellow then head to bed and I’ll be doing team updated for it from time to time so far

    Pikachu Lv.11

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  36. *Gets on the bus at 2:15 PM c tomorrow after school*
    Green: Oh Boy! New news! Better go on Pokejungle.
    *Opens Pokejungle*
    “New Korean Pokemon Sun and Moon Trailer (NO NEW INFO)”

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  37. Okay here’s a story that’s kinda pokemon related and kinda not.

    When I was little I liked the name Lorelei (and even though I’m gay I find girls with glasses to be cute) so I decided I was going to name my daughter that because it was a pretty name. Fast forward 15 years and my cousin names her first daughter Lorelei and I’ve learned how it’s a pretty name… If you don’t live in the south with a southern accent. 🙁

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  38. I hope the previous leaker who claims to have seen this month’s reveal trailer isn’t lying. Bring on the boxing lobsters!! *Amanda Show theme song starts playing*

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  39. Tomorrow is going to be awesome. First, Pokemon news. The demo *might* be announced, but I seriously doubt that. I expect that in late October. What I want in terms of new Pokemon is a couple Alolan forms (Abra line, Krabby line, possibly Electabuzz and Magmar? There are lots I want to see). For new Alolan Pokemon, I’d love more Ground, Ice, and Steel representation. New type combinations are also a must. I’m sure we’ll all be blown away by one or two designs. After the Pokemon news, I can’t wait for 10do to be obliterated and ridiculed off the Internet by angry Nintendo fans. If you don’t know what I’m talking about, don’t worry about it.

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  40. Hey ShinyXatu, you can have your sunstaring, this poor deerling tried it, and wanted to cry as the pain radiated from my poor cutesy eyes…

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  41. I have a idea for a evolution methods involving the 3ds like how inkay was turn it upside down
    What if to evolve Grubbin and/or Charjabug you need to have your 3ds charger plugged in
    And for Komala you need to put your 3ds in sleep mode In a certain area.

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  42. I’m most excited that tomorrow will finally clear up some of these leaks…. Hopefully. So much was leaked that it would be almost impossible for them to not show at least one pokemon that proves misproves these alleged leakers!

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    • Yeah I think tomorrow will likely make or break many of the rumors/leaks we have to date. It’ll definitely help clean tings up a bit going forward lol

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  43. Pokemon X and Y gave us kanto starters with megas I think we will get Johto Starters and their megas this time and when the Diamond Pearl remake comes out we should get the gen 4 megas just like what happened with ORAS

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    • Well, since Megas are likely not returning this time (sorry not sorry), I think Alolan forms are much more likely. Wouldn’t it be clunky to have Mega Evolution, Primal Reversion, Alolan forms, and Z-Moves in all games going forward? That’s my opinion, at least. It has to be partitioned to give each game some uniqueness.

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  44. So anybody point out
    Torchic event in X/Y with a mega stone then we got ORAS remakes?
    Munchlax event in SuMo with a Z-Crystal= D/P REMAKES :D?????????

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      • I wouldnt be suprised I kinda noticed something
        Gen 3= Gen 1 Remakes
        Gen 4= Gen 2 Remakes
        Gen 5= None
        Gen 6= ORAS
        Maybe a pattern will be formed?

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        • Wouldn’t be surprised if DP remakes were the Pokemon games to be released on the NX next year. Game Freak is kicking patterns out the window, Sparta-style.

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          • Honestly given a lot of things have put the rumors into question, and almost every rumor since the hybrid rumor has been built on that idea, I’m willing to guess its a fake. Its more people buying into things that sound convincing without really understanding the market in the slightest and why things are done the way they are.

            Honestly the only thing I would even take a wild guess at is that they would base the controllers off of the 3ds and allow you to use one as a controller. They already tested the idea back with smash and it worked well enough. It would cut down on the controller market issue, and they could easily incorporate the idea of capturing 3ds games through the console for recording, since people have already shown that the 3ds can record without a capture card with the right software, which is a bit glitchy and in its current form can brick your 3ds, but leave it to nintendo to figure out a way to make it work right.

          • The software probably does screwy things with the backbuffer. The reason capturecards are used is because the extra hardware gives a speed boost unobtainable by using a software implementation unless the hardware already has components designed for video caputre.

            Compare it to a computer GPU, where Nvidia have actually invested time and money making sure their GPUs have the circuitry to do proper high speed video encoding (i.e. Shadowplay). The GPU in the 3DS probably doesn’t have that or probably only has it in limited form because it would be expensive otherwise. Like how when they made the NES they used an abridged version of the MOS 6502 (I think it was made by Ricoh) that didn’t have Binary Coded Decimal support because they deemed it unnecessary.

          • Well it might not be. It could be a separate handheld and console based on more trusted sources. I think EuroGamers and Emily Rogers are detailing the handheld.

          • That could be, but their have been a few red flags about it. FOr starters, Emily Rogers has lost a lot of credibility between saying that Links gender could be chosen in breath of the wild, saying mother 3 would be announced at E3 and saying the NX would be a high powered console, before immediately retracting her previous statements ans supporting the popular rumors.

            As for Eurogamer, I do recall people bring up that the chip sets, or something like that, that were said to be developed by Nedvia were false and Nedvia openly stated that they weren’t making anything of the sort that was described by Eurogamer. As well, Eurogamer has nothing to lose in stating false rumors as they never named their source, and can simply pin all of the blame on their source, if it even exists.

          • That makes more sense.
            Nvidia and Nintendo working together sounds too good to be true. Though it could be true given that many people were expecting them to switch to AMD for their GPU like Sony and Microsoft.

        • I wouldn’t count on it. On the batter, not the DP remakes. The DP remakes are all but confirmed with the colors, and the fact that the starting island has areas based on Diamond head and Pearl Harbor.

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          • Oh wow, I never even thought about that. They’re going all out. This can’t possibly be hinting at Gen 8 remakes, this is 2017 material in my eyes.

    • Personally I was hoping for a Piplup with Empoleonite on it, but I’m still happy with this. Here’s hoping though that they give us a little surprise like the champion having something like that. One day though I’m certain we’ll have a flying penguin.

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          • Yeah, very classy.

            But back to what I was saying, I could see them giving empoleon like a water jet pack or something and making an ability that’s like a super levitate, giving him immunity to ground and giving him back his resistance to fire. Though that might be a bit too much. I think at that point he has only one weakness, being fighting.

          • Fighting and Electric.
            Empoleon is OP enough already though.

            I think it’s more likely they’d make its flippers larger so they act as shields and give it a defence boost.
            Though making its crown larger and giving it lighting rod would change its Electric weakness into an immunity.

          • That would be pretty cleaver as well, and wound make sense to a degree. Thunder snow is a thing, and I can see them going for something of a god emperor vibe with its design.

            But yeah it is pretty op.

          • Part of my thinking was a villain from anime/manga series One Piece who controls electricity and once reformed his golden staff into a trident.

            http://i.imgur.com/lojC3T1.jpg

            But also the way Empoleon wears it I can imagine it acting as a sort of Faraday cage and drawing the electricity away from its actual body and into its metallic parts.
            Would also make crossing the ocean in stormy weather easier.

            One thing that has always disappointed me about pokemon is that it almost never rains over the oceans. I liked in Mewtwo Strikes Back how they had the massive storm cutting off sea travel.

          • Oh yeah. God, or what ever his actual name was. The sky island ark was a pretty fun one back in the day. And yeah that would make a good deal of sense. Here’s hoping that fans and creators might be on the same page when it comes time for them to think of the design’s for the Sinnoh starters.

            And yeah that does suck, though I imagine its more for balancing then anything. The extra damage would be really punishing as almost everything you would fight on water would get boosted from the rain, if not having their abilities activate as well. Though it would be a great way to show off the power of rain to players. So who knows.

          • God was his epithet.
            His name was Eneru (nobody can ever agree on how to romanise it).
            Skypeia. Which I think got reduced to missing half of Jaya (dubbed ‘Upper Yard’ by the inhabitants) after the Eneru incident. On the bright side, he did actually make it to the moon in the end.

            I think that’s precisely why they should do it – to add some extra challenge. They could set it up so that the player is either prevented from travelling completely because of the storm – i.e. it’s a way of preventing the player from going to a part of the map they can’t reach yet, or the player could be warned against travelling across the water but has to do so anyway for the sake of reaching the next area or something to do with a legendary. Besides, you’d be fine if you had a few Electric pokemon since Thunder becomes a sure-hit move in rain.

            Weather is really underused. The ocean should be rainy, the volcano should be sunny, it should snow on the icy mountains and there should be sandstorms in the dessert. None would be safe.

  45. I have only three more mainline Pokemon games left until my collection is complete: LeafGreen, Ruby and Sapphire. I’m really determined to complete my goal for Gen 7 of completing this collection (spin-offs don’t count, I’m WAY behind on that). It might be a costly endeavor, but I want to get it all done at once. Then, I can focus on the future 😀

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  46. alright guys it’s time we start the countdown for more information on Pokemon Sun and Moon! 😀 Victor if our promises are not coming through, me and earthen are going to use you as firewood! >:)

    Victor: O-O;;;;;

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  47. I was just double battling a passerby in ORAS. It really looked like they were going to win – they had a Charizard Y and a Guts Swellow left, and I had a Blissey on low health as well as a Darmanitan that could easily be OHKO’d by Swellow’s Brave Bird…then my Scarfed Darmanitan used Rock Slide and the whole thing was over xD They DCd immediately after.

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  48. and so the countdown for more Pokemon Sun and Moon info begins!

    I’m going to watch a pokken tournament game movie to pass the time along. 😀

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