8/21 UPDATE: Although we are all excited that Happy Hour Meowth has indeed been confirmed as a distribution, this does not necessarily give any credence to this rumor. Upcoming downloads can be datamined a month or more in advanced. -PJ
RUMOUR ALERT: The information contained in this post is based on speculation, not fact. Please treat it as such and do not interpret it as confirmed news.
As with every release cycle in a new Pokémon game the rumour mill is going strong with Sun & Moon. Once again an anonymous user on a popular image board has posted a list of alleged new details about the games, from new islands in the Alola region, to a new and spectacular Rainbow Greninja. The full list of information is below and some of it seems a little to good to be true (which it almost certainly is), but it’s good to talk about, right?!
- Alola is made up of 4 islands, Melemele, Poni, Ula’Ula, and Akala.
- Post game has 4 “Island Districts” that aren’t viewable on the map. Ekahi Island, Elua Island, Ekolu Island, and Kalola Island.
- Kalos is not available post-game, but Hoomaka Cave on Kalola Island holds a huge easter egg I believe. Deep inside there is a dark entrance guarded by a backpacker that states the railroad is closed for now and only a Pokémon that emits a special light can ignite the way to the other side. No Pokémon in your party will allow you to enter for now.
- Rockruff has 3 evolutions similar to Eevee in RBY. All of them require learning “Howl”.
- Salandit has a split evolution line at level 36, one for Male and one for Female.
- There are 16 Z-Stones, 18 total, with a Trial Captain for 16 of the types. Guzma and Plumeria are holders of the missing Dark and Poison Z-Stones.
- Some Pokémon can change shape/stats after they perform a Z-Move. These include Greninja (Rainbow), Solgaleo (Radiant), Lunala (Full Moon), Marshadow (Eclipse), Espeon (Dawn), and Umbreon (Dusk).
- All 47 Mega Stones are accessible on the island districts. There aren’t any new Mega Evolutions.
- There are a total of 128 new Pokémon and 23 Alolan forms. These Alolan forms are all Gen 1 exclusive Pokémon.
- Alolan form Pokémon that are capable of Mega Evolving can do so, Alakazam and Kangaskahn are among these.
- Marshadow, an extremely gorgeous dolphin, has a jewel on its head that emit sparkles so bright, that its seen as the emissary of light. It’s stats are pretty underwhelming, but it has a cool ability that allows it to have any Psychic type combination. The second type is random every time it enters the battle field. Even switching out causes it to change.
- The Strange Souvenir item in XY depicts a Ghost/Rock Pokémon from Alola named Gigareki. It’s a giant tiki (different from the Tapu lines) that has an amazing laughing animation when you battle with it. It is said to be the oldest living Pokémon, and seen as a “Teacher” in many ways.
- The NX will be a dual handheld/console set for release next year. Sept 2017 there will be a parent game that features both regions of XYSM exclusive to this console.
- Rainbow Greninja will be revealed by TPC on Aug 21.
- Alolan Alakazam family are fighting type. Alolan Alakazam can mega evolve, keeps the fighting type, and gains No Guard.
- Yes. The Z-Bracelet is a key item in your backpack. Selecting it allows you to place 1 mega stone and 1 z stone inside of it. This allows for more crazy strategies because your Mega Pokémon can now hold items like Rayquaza due to this.
- The first district you’re taken too has a slightly upgraded Battle Maison. One of the districts has a Lugia/Ho-Oh depending on your version.
- All Champions from previous games are able to battled on the S.S. Anne while they’re bored. The S.S. Anne brings you to the districts.
- Rainbow Greninja is technically Ash Greninja but with a name change. It will be revealed in the closing ceremony at World’s 2016.
- Meowth that knows “Happy Hour” and OT Alola will be distributed at World’s. Cherish Ball.
- If you add 128 to our existing 721 roster, that means Generation 8 will only need to introduce 151 Pokemon (like a reboot) to bring our total count to 1000.
So that’s it folks. Looks like if you weren’t already sure these were false you won’t have to wait long for confirmation, as Rainbow Greninja is said to be revealed on August 21st. Anything you like the sounds of in this latest cacophony of “information”?
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Okay so, I just wanted to say something. Verlisify and his fanbase is the cancer of the Pokémon community. If you’re not aware, he was bashing PJN on his YouTube videos and on Twitter, for posting unconfirmed leaks, talking about how misleading PJ is being to us as visitor of the site, treating it as it’s all real information.
First of all, PJN is NOT a news site, it’s honestly more of a BLOG site. Everyone and their mothers knows that if you want FACTS, you go to Serebii, end of story. But that’s what makes PJN so special, is that there’s a legitimate community here, where an article can be posted regarding these leaks, whether true or not, and we can discuss these ideas. It’s part of the FUN leading up to a game’s release.
I know Paul personally, he’s a good dude and when he says that he cares about us as visitors and commentors, he means it 100%, he’s not trying to mislead anybody. I love all you but I have to admit some of y’all a bit stupid for falling for every leak that gets posted lmao. But again, what’s the fun if we can’t talk and discuss leaks or other fake information?? It brings us all closer as Pokémon fans because we get to interact and exhange ideas, both positive and negative.
So yeah. PJN is NOT a news site, and shouldn’t always be treated as such. But that’s what makes this place special.
I didn’t think it was something awful to post leaks and literally say that it’s all rumours. Just let Verlisify be a dumb furry that has to use click-bate for views. I mean it; him, TyranitarTube, and Gian are the worst and most annoying PokeTubers.
Not to mention, literally every article has a disclaimer saying the news is unconfirmed and being posted for discussion purposes.
From what I recall he’s one of many YouTubers that use unconfirmed info for click bait videos sooo…
click bait youtuber calling a blog site misleading is the funniest thing i’ve seen today LMFAO
I resent that
I’m one of the few hard assed enough to tell others the leaks are bunk
Yeah but doesn’t he come up with terrible speculation stuff (i.e., Ho-oh & Lugia, something about an underwater tunnel that made no sense, etc.)? What’s the difference tbh? Leaks are purely speculation until SOMETHING in it gets proven true after they’ve come out…
DUDE FORREAL. Do you fucking remember the video where he thought he saw Lugia and Ho-oh in THE CLOUDS of the Alola map???? Stupid stupid stupid. He thought Lugia and Ho-oh would be the legends with a primal form…
literally drag him! He is the most hypocritical person I swear to Arceus!
Most likely names for Rowlet’s final evolution. (Based on appearence that reminds people of someone important. For example, Empoleon)
Robinhoot
Robinroot
Sherhood
Archood
Bowhood*
Robinarrow
Robinbow
Robinwood
Arrowhood*
Nottinowl
Nottinhoot
Nottinhood
* Less likely names
Please tell me to what you may think. These are just guesses and not final, but you can guess of where I’m coming from based on the name of Robin Hood and Rowlet’s Final Form.
Well the ones that simply combine two Robin-Hood based concepts with no reference to owls or plants (ex: Robinarrow) seem honestly unlikely, but the others are pretty cool! Something like Sherhoot or Nottinghoot would be great, and less obvious than Robinhoot/root…
Tbf I think where this thing really becomes interesting is nickname-wise…
Yeah I think Sherhoot and Nottinghoot does sound promising. Though we have to wait and see from the big company themselves.
Mega Evolutions can now hold items? Yea, uh. . . No. . . I’m cool with no longer having mega’s, I’m cool with rainbow Greninja, I’m especially cool with 128 Pokemon, I’m cool with EVERYTHING except that crap. Everyone and their mothers knows Mega’s threw a very questionable wrench into the competitive aspect of the game. Although Mega’s were much appreciated, they threw balance out the window with many of them. . . So let’s make that worse? I’m really hoping that in 7 days this is confirmed fake, otherwise, the balancing act we’re going to have to do in the competitive scene is going to be a giant mess.
Pretty much what I was thinking, rockruff & starter wise.
hopefully the starters will have seperate ones though… But its not likely..
I loved that rumour of rockruff being this gen’s eevee aswell, with 3 serperate evo’s.. It would be even better if hos evo’s would be
rock/water
rock/fire
rock/electric
we saw Golbat in the last trailer …..so it’s fake.
Maybe both alolan golbat AND the regular are in the game depending where they are found. IDK, not ruling things out yet.
anything can happen.
Now he screwed himself over by adding Alolan Tauros when regular Tauros is already a ride pokemon.
I think it can also be small changes, things you don’t see 1-2-3 u know
Actually, there is something I do believe. Rockruff evo typing depends on the z-move. I believe only because of that manga. The MC had a z-ring and his partner is Rockruff, and since their manga and Rockruff’s evo is going to be revealed next month…coincedence?
I was mainly saying that I believed the starter and rockruff part, so 😉
Ruffnir – Lol, yeah right.
Alolan Oddish – This person is on drugs
Alolan Tauros – Yep, let’s just ignore all the normal Tauros that are freely roaming the island.
Alolan Zubat – Again, this person is on drugs
Z Moves being calculated by IV – You can only use them once in a battle, there would be no point unless they were 1 hit KO moves.
Out of all those things, Fairy Hidden Power is the only one that seems vaguely likely.
I think Ruffnir is a combination of ruff and Fenrir
Do not see why Oddish is farfetched
I’ll give you Tauros
You haven’t heard that Dragonite and Zubat might have potential Alolan forms legit?
And I can bu the Z-move thing. Have to be calculated somehow.
I know what it’s supposed to be, that’s precisely why it’s laughable.
Because if Oddish had an Alolan form, the rest of its line would have to have one as well, and the leak didn’t mention them. If it was a genuine leak, they would have been mentioned.
I’ve seen the claims, and I’ve been on the Japanese website and read what they actually say. People have been making the mistake of trying to translate the website with Google translate and it does a really bad job. It translates Dragonite’s ability as ‘sexual fresh green’
http://i.imgur.com/NeIw3On.png
It doesn’t if it’s just a 1 hit KO, which it damn well should be if you can only use it once per battle. I can accept the type coming into the calculation (e.g. it’s only a sure kill if it’s super effective) or accuracy/evasion possibly being involved, but calculating it only with IVs makes no sense. IVs are already a factor in battle calculations, but they are just one part of it, it wouldn’t make sense to put such heavy focus on them for Z moves, even with the bottletop mechanic.
No clue why that’s laughable
I’m pretty sure it’s obvious if a base pokemon has an Alolan form the rest follows suit, just like Meowth. So no need to mention them
.
The japanese twitter said stay tuned to hear more about Zubat and Dragonite.
Gamexplain already showed that z-moves aren’t 1 hit KOs. When Pikachu used Gigavolt Havoc on Sandshrew it’s health stopped before it hit red. So they’re no OHKOs.
Because it’s not very gamefreak to name a pokemon after a norse creature. They may have based Kyogre on the Leviathan and Groudon on the Behemoth, but Fenrir seems a bit of a stretch.
The devil is in the detail. For example, it does not state whether that means both Vileplume and Bellossom have Alolan forms or just one – it is purposely trying to get people to speculate.
It does, but that doesn’t guarantee an Alolan form, it could be something new entirely. If it were just another Alolan form, why go to the trouble of introducing them ahead of time in their Kanto form?
In that case, they’re probably not that different to normal moves and probably just use a slightly different variation of an old mechanic, like using the level of the pokemon or the pokemon’s friendship with its trainer (like a typed version of return).
Isn’t Zygarde named after Asgard?
My money is on the natural evolution being the one to get the Alola form.
It’s called hyping. With Gamescon and and the Championships coming up, I wouldn’t be surprised if Alolan forms are what they reveal this year.
They are pretty much just flashy elemental Explosion like move. Granted there’s still not much we know about Z-Moves yet and I feel like they left details out, so I’m sure there’s more to it than just a strong move.
Actually ironically by proving me wrong about that point, you’ve just proved why they wouldn’t name Rockruff’s evolution after Fenrir – because Zygarde 10% form is based on Fenrir. It wouldn’t make sense to base a legendary and a common pokemon on the same concept.
‘Natural’? They’re both ‘natural’, one uses a leaf stone and one uses a sun stone. Bellossom being introduced later doesn’t mean Bellossom is an ‘unnatural’ evolution. Besides which, the leak says nothing either way. It could mean both, it could mean neither.
Well, I’m betting they’ll reveal something else purely because Alolan forms would be too obvious.
The pokemon doesn’t faint after using it, so it’s not quite like explosion.
What we know:
-They can be used once per battle.
-The pokemon must be holding a Z-Crystal and know a move of the same type as the crystal it holds.
-There is a crystal for every type of pokemon (all 18).
-The animation fills ‘the entire screen’.
-The in game character has to do a special
gang signpose to use the move-Known moves: Gigavolt Havoc, Bloom Doom, Inferno Overdrive, Hydro Vortex
-Matel is selling synchronised ring toys
Yeah you got a point. Thought it’s not like English namers gave a crap anyway on similar concepts.
I forgot Vileplume evolved from using a leaf stone. Actually I’m curious how Alola forms that evolve via stones work. That would get confusing real fast for now and future generations.
If they did add something else, that’d be too much at this point. I’d doubt they have something else to give.
I mostly meant Explosion in terms of power. And I still think there’s more to z-moves than what they told us so far.
There’s concepts and there’s concepts. You could have 101 different birds or snakes, but Fenrir isn’t something you can easily make copies of.
Hence why ‘oddish will have an alolan form’ would be a worthless leak, even if it turned out to be true.
Most should be the same, at the moment Ninetales is the only odd one out, and they still might just use a fire stone for that since technically ice burns.
Alternate (non-alolan) forms or abilities seem reasonable, possibly related to items. Or other mechanics like Dragonite providing a mail service or a prize system for the number of zubat you manage to squash (to make up for them being irritatingly common mooks). Or revealing them as totem pokemon for certain trials.
I doubt it will be anything they haven’t done with moves before in one way or other.
For Z-moves I also think it will double as a stat boost.
Depends how OP they already are.
Forgot you work for Game Freak and therefore have all inside information
Leak #10: Alolan form Pokémon that are capable of Mega Evolving.
Hmm I wonder what the Mega Pokemon will look like as Mega Alolan Pokemon?
china… plz staph. this has gone 2 far… rf.
I was just thinking about Hidden Power. Do you guys think that Hidden Power Fairy would be included in 7th gen since IV’s are now customizable?
There is no hidden power fairy? Lel i didnt know that but yeah it should definitely get included then
Nahhhhhhhhh
I can see it if they disconnect hidden power from stats.
What if a Pokemon has a random hidden power assigned, then the person who can see hidden power type can also change it to whatever we want.
They don’t need to disconnect it from stats, they just need to tweak the current forula.
At the moment they take the lsb of all stats, and arrange them into a 6 bit number (ranging from 0 to 64) multiply it by 15, divide by 63 and round the result down, which has the effect of limiting the result between 0 and 15 (covering 16 types).
All they need to do is adjust the formula so it results in a number between 0 and 16 instead.
From brief calculations, it appears that multiplying by 16 instead of 15 would suffice since (64*16)/63 = 16.25396825.
I desire to to disconnect HP from stats as I don’t want certain hidden powers (like say, Fire) to have an inherent disadvantage just because of the way stats are calculated.
As you know from competitive Pokemon, 1 speed loss is everything, and once you decide to run things like Hidden Power Fire or Ground, you give up 100% of speed ties to Pokemon with the same base speed.
The thing I hate about this is the Alolan Megas. “let’s give already powerful megas a new typing and movesets to make them more powerful!” As long as we see Alolan Gyarados…
Hyper Training news. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vofFG6QWvFI
Translate asap
check serebii.
I’m already there
Oh ok thx
I cant understand lel are talking about hyper training?
I really wanna know whether there’s gonna be a Sun & Moon dual pack over here in the UK like there is in the US. If there isn’t, I’ll just get Sun along with the paperback strategy guide (cause I always get one with a new gen)
Unfortunately no. We get the case separately. Yeah I do not know why Nintendo of Europe had made that stupid decision. I suppose it’s to try and suite EU regulations.
That does suck tbh, but it might be a blessing in disguise. I can play Sun to my heart’s content and then get Moon maybe a year-ish later when its cheaper
pretty much I suppose.
What would such a decision have to do with EU regulations? It’s more likely some sort marketing/focus group decision, like not releasing the non-XL new nintendo 3DS in the US until much later, or the myriad of other package/edition variations that happen between regions.
(Not trying to be political here, just logical 🙂 , to assume the EU would have any say in this is pretty darn bonkers)
You’d be suprised. The EU is why HGSS had Voltorb Flip instead of the Game Corner. All to suit one German anti-gambling law.
To trade with EU countries things have to pass certain standards and there’s tax and other things involved, so it might be a tax avoidance ploy (somehow having the two as separate products saves them money because of what the two are classed as for tax reasons).
It could be a marketing thing, but if it is, whoever came up with had better have a good reason because it just seems daft from where I’m sitting. If the sales figures say Europeans don’t buy both as much as Americans I’ll be surprised but accept it, otherwise I can’t see much reason for it (except maybe localisation costs, which again, would be somewhat valid).
Just wait until the UK has finally left to have proper control over our gaming destiny. We’ve won to leave the EU, but from all we know, the narrow-minded rich and elite in power are wanting to delay and sabotage the entire thing, just so to say that We’re part of the EU whether you so-called racist peasants like it or not.
Sorry that I’ve put in politics here, but if it’s something I can’t stand, is a lying, deceiving, failing EU that is just desperately wanting to create a United States of Europe, and already Merkel had made a real mess out of it.
Woah woah woah, too much politics for pokejungle 😛 Discussing the EU in the context of what it means for pokemon and video games is fine, but let’s not get class/party oriented.
Besides which if we do come out of the EU (still very much up in the air). There’s a possibility we might end up getting games later because Nintendo might see the UK as a smaller/less important market. Equally it could attempt to just ship US games straight over (accouting for a bit of region adjustment).
I’m half and half about either circumstance, they both have their pros and cons.
Besides which, my dream of people bothering to go through US games and change all the spellings to their British form for UK releases was probably never going to become true anyway :C
(Some of the Harry Potter games managed to do it).
true. If it wasn’t for Region Lock, I would be swimming with US games right about now.
Nobody’s 100% sure about the slot machine thing, but this discussion is interesting nonetheless:
https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/1o4113/any_info_on_slot_machines_or_a_casino_in_x_and_y/ccomci5
Yes it had to be Germany for some odd reason but a law they have there.
This kinda reminds me of the ”Kellogg’s Krave Choco Roulette” cereal with the box art of a slot machine, and some british fart was complaining and wanting it banned through petition because he thinks it’ll make kids want to gamble, when it is suppose to represent which flavor you would get in every bite, such as Milk Chocolate, White Chocolate, Hazelnut Chocolate, and Caramel Chocolate.
http://img.tesco.com/Groceries/pi/313/5053827135313/IDShot_540x540.jpg
So if I’m reading carefully
Bottlecaps only increase one stat at a time
So that means start collecting 6 at a time
Wait! Are they starting to go ”Fallout” levels of payment?
And now you access every option from a wrist mounted dex called a Pokeboy
Yeah! ”Pokemon Fallout” Someone aught to make that crossover series.
New type of pokemon: mutant/nuclear pokemon
Lolz!
It would be Rad Type
The idea that pokemon aren’t already mutants is a strange one.
What about grimer and voltorb?
More likely a nod to Jmaes’ beloved bottlecap collection.
Silver bottlecaps raise 1, im guessing there are gold bottlecaps that raise 3 and maybe platinum bottlecaps that raise 6 stats
Do I hear an indication of Gen 4’s 10th Anniversary as well as Gen 2’s 20th?
Olympic gymnasts don’t stretch harder then what your doing
#SinnohConfirmed
For the NX
Easiest approach is to breed in 5 perfect IVs then gradually raise the last up to max.
No, not another Mega Rayquza incident… no! NOT LIFE ORB MEGA KANGASKHAN!!! NOT FOCUS SASH MEGA ALAKAZAM!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! This is garbage btw.
Don’t worry, it’s proven fake. Read the description of Marshadow and the NX to see what I mean.
Okay good, this would be disgusting if true.
Ummmm how does that prove that its fake?
I find the description of Marshadow to be fairly believable, same with the NX info.
And besides some of this info may turn out to be real, while some may turn out to be fake. That’s happened before. 😀
we won’t know until 21st that’s for sure.
Yeah. 🙂
totally excited for ANY new info that Nintendo has to give though. 😀
well don’t keep your hopes up.
“The NX will be a dual handheld/console set for release next year. Sept
2017 there will be a parent game that features both regions of XYSM
exclusive to this console.”
A game featuring both Kalos and Alola? Really? That’s believeable?
And it wouldn’t make sense for Mashadow to be the dolphin since in the leak they were first mentioned in, they were mentioned separately. If they were the same thing, the original leak wouldn’t have had a reason to keep them separate.
Plus the Chinese leak says the Dolphin Pokemon and Marshadow separately. Indicating that the Dolphin maybe basic.
“And it wouldn’t make sense for Mashadow to be the dolphin since in the
leak they were first mentioned in, they were mentioned separately. If
they were the same thing, the original leak wouldn’t have had a reason
to keep them separate.”
You repeated what I just said 😛
But thank you for having common sense.
My pleasure. At least I’d recognise the final evolutions of the starters being legit before being confirmed, thanks to Mallow official reveal.
Gen 3 will have a whale pokemon. Its a water type. Its big… what whale pokemon do i mean? Wailord or kyogre?
What i mean is. A gen. Can have 2 kinds of pokemon form the same species. Legendary and a commen pokemon.
Kyogre isn’t a whale, it’s a Leviathan. You could say a Leviathan is a whale, but that’s like saying Bigfoot is a bear or Cthluhu is a squid – the two only bear a passing resemblance.
Yes
Life Orb Sheer Force Mega Camerupt
Leftovers Mega Venusaur and Mega Sableye
Choice Specs Mega Zard Y and Mega Blastoise
Choice Band/Leftovers Mega Scizor.
Ay, that first one for me? I don’t think you know I love Camerupt. Anyways, nice coincident
Will there be a Alolan Dragonite & Zubat? http://www.ibtimes.com/pokemon-sun-moon-rumors-japanese-site-may-tease-alola-forms-dragonite-zubat-2401274
http://i.imgur.com/NeIw3On.png
Kanto is so gloomy in HGSS. Cinnabar Island is destroyed, The champion is missing, businesses are shut down, there really isn’t much to make the region special. It’s an atmosphere I don’t see alot in games
That’s how things were in the original Gold and Silver.
I just said HGSS cuz I’m playing through it right now 😛
Just saying, it’s faithful to what the original games were like.
(Tbh though I never thought Kanto was that special to begin with.)
Yeah, Kanto was just an extension to Johto. Hence why the Legendary to it is Ho-oh and Lugia, whilst Kantos is the starters final forms and Pikachu. The Original Series is in fact the combination of both Kanto + Johto, as in Tokyo and Osaka (Which in distance is from London to Newquey in Cornwall.)
Hrm, the more I think about it, the more I think they probably should just be classed as one big region.
But I suppose at the time being able to go back to Kanto was probably a big spoiler.
I wonder if that means the Johto pokedex has more validity than the original national dex?
G/S were also planned to be the final games in the series as they thought the series would die off. Of course it didn’t but it’s why Gen 1 and 2 are so connected to each other but 3 is completely seperate
I liked how hoenn was separate from the previous two regions but still kept them in, like how pokemon from both regions can be encountered and how brendan, his mom and norman are from johto
I don’t doubt that GS intending to be the final games had an
impact on why it was so closely linked to Kanto and another reason why
they chose to just reuse loads of the content, but I don’t think that’s
the reason why Gen 3 is so separate.
I would have thought Gen 3 being separate was probably more to do with them not being able to reuse their code like they could with Gen 2.
The original Gameboy and the Gameboy Colour both used a Sharp LR35902 Cpu, so to make Gold and Silver, all they had to do was to take the code for the original, rewrite the drawing code and just keep adding things on top of the original engine (the Colour had a big memory boost).
When it came to the GBA, they switched to an ARM 7TDMI, with a Z80 as a coprocessor, so they effectively had to rewrite the game from scratch to get full use of the GBA’s hardware, at which point reusing the sprites and maps from the old games wouldn’t make sense.
The reason johto and kanto are 2 separate regions are 1, johto was introduced after duh, and 2, johto has a more rural and traditional japanese customs while kanto is more modern and urbanized, each have a slightly different way of living
“The reason johto and kanto are 2 separate regions … johto was introduced after”
That’s literally the only reason.
Just in case I need to point it out they share the same champion/elite four.
The only thing dividing them is a mountain, which didn’t stop Sinnoh.
Heck, there’s a ferry that regularly runs between them.
That is not the only reason, thats why i mentioned 2 reasons…but sure whatever, also sinnoh is much smaller than johto and kanto combined
The cultural difference isn’t a reason.
Sure then lets just make hoenn and alola the same region because they both have the same tropical culture, culture IS a reason, culture defines a person, a community, a region, even an entire country in some cases
That’s different, Alola and Hoenn are far apart and have distinctly different cultures. Johto and Kanto are right next door to each other, share a radio station, share a ferry, share a pokemon league etc.
Their cultures aren’t that different, one is more rural and one is more urban, but that happens within the same region quite easily. Compare the ruralness of Littleroot Town to the upbeat Mauville, and how Kalos has a large urban city like Lumiose and yet not too far away lies Laverre city, which is surrounded by an autumnal forest, has a large tree in the centre and has a high population of Furisode girls.
Kanto and Johto are far more similar than those drastic examples.
Culture does not define a person, a person merely carries aspects of the culture of where they live. ‘Community’ is a very loose word. Regions can have very different cultures within them, as can countries. Culture in itself is a loosely defined term that’s open to interpretation.
Yeah no apparently your country has no culture or you just had a bad history teacher but culture is a very important aspect in society, it defines us as humans
A person is not defined by their culture. If that were the case we’d all just be the same. For example, I am English, Football is a major part of our culture and yet I (as well as many others) greatly dislike it.
As I say though, culture is a very loose word. People use it to describe ‘gamer culture’ and ‘internet culture’, but these ‘cultures’ are not unifying steadfast rules, they are just generalisations of things that are popular. A lot of people like a game, so suddenly people start classing aspects of it as a part of ‘gamer culture’, but that’s just a generalisation, there are almost certainly just as many ‘gamers’ who hate said game as there are gamers who love it. Culture is nothing but a generalisation.
Also culture isn’t a subset of history, it’s a subset of religious studies or sociology. Historians study events of the past, not modern culture. And before you even try to pull the ‘history influences modern culutre’ card, my ancestors might have used vinegar soaked sponges to wiped their backsides and wiped woad on their faces before going into battle, but those things have no bearing on my life beyond the fact that someone eventually realised toilet paper was better.
that’ll make it 251 if Kanto + Johto were made into one shared region
Its crazy to think that that number is small compared to the kalos and b2w2 unova dexes and probably alola’s considering each island has its own dex
Old Johto had 251.
New Johto had 256.
Hoenn had 211.
Original Unova had 155.
New Unova had 300.
Kalos had 457.
‘Small’ is relative though.
Original Johto is the only one of those to cover all pokemon available at the time, since then all regional dexes have had pokemon missing from them.
Yeah but what i mean is that its crazy that now we have so many pokemon that bigger regional dexes can be made really big still having pokemon from other regions missing
Or in the remakes, 256.
256 is a very nice number.
But hey, Lavender Town’s no longer creepy! So, that’s… something.. I guess
It isn’t creepy as much as it is… sad. It’s like the scary ghost stuff kinda went away over the 3 years since Red and Blue and all thats left is the sadness of pokemon death
Personally, I would’ve rather had them keep Levender Town’s creepy vibe but I guess showing the passage of time was pretty cool too
That’s true. But just don’t focus on Kanto and you’ll be fine 😉
The Johto region is great!
Henceforth why dual regions aren’t all that
I still like it. Lots to explore post game
Yeah the hgss post-game was great! Sadly i cant say the same with recent games, although looking for legendaries in mirage places and the delta episode were really good aswell
Explore but with zero worthwhile content
I enjoy it. Seeing things change 3 years later is great. Lots of items and trainers, gyms, legendaries. there is quite a bit to do
It only lacked content because they had memory limitations. If they cut back on the visual detail a bit with the modern games they could probably fit two decently sized regions in. Heck, if they’d stuck with sprites they probably could have managed 3 regions.
What are some things to do before fighting Red? I’m going for all the legendaries I can (Roamings are pain 😛 ) I’m goona inish the Safari Zone tests for sure. I really want to get the most out of my playthrough because I just love this game
Getting a hoenn legend, getting a hoenn starter from steven, getting the bird trio, hmm i dont remember what other fun little missions there are
Plus with an event Arceus and travelling to a temple to meet Cynthia, you get a Level 1 Dialga, Palkia or Giratina.
Plus a big lipped alligator moment with what just went on in that temple.
Oh yeah! I have an action replay so i can do all of those events
Earthen bored…..somebody pitch me type combos and I’ll try making Fakemon based on them
Ice/Fire
That’s what I did for Tibustable and Tiphlodable for Pokemon Myth and Legend, only it’s Fire/Ice.
The order doesn’t really matter here
To me it does
Ok.
Embrr and Inferozen
Nice names, can you describe them?
It is a clear white core with a rapidly shifting nucleus, two tiny eyes and a slit for a mouth, around it constantly shifting from Red fire and Blue fire,
Their body’s chemical makeup is erratically unstable resulting of rapid energy changes
Ok. Then Ice/Poison
A Cold virus
A pale turquoise amoeba like humanoid
with a big round nose and sickly runny eyes
Blotches of purple green and blue and wiggly arms with tentacle fingers
I can’t think of a decent name Viruu
I was hoping for something like this 🙂
Despite its sickly appearance their physical health is perfectly fine, their mysterious immune system is thousands of times stronger then a persons prompting to help find cures for ailments
I wonder where one would find such a pokemon…
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/uYJo_zNtRak/maxresdefault.jpg
http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/onepiece/images/3/3a/Punk_Hazard_Infobox.png
Well alola has a volcano with ice at the summit so…ice/fire confirmed? *wink wink*
Ghost/Rock
Bouldergeist
He was in Mario Galaxy
Then Dombstone
Aparently there’s a Skylander called Doom Stone. I forsee a lawsuit 😀
Then maybe Piedrantom? Piedra-spanish for rock and phantom? Idk im bad with names
Craghoul!
Yeah, nice!
Portmanteaus are one of my specialties.
I’ve been creating game ideas, pokemon names and monsters since before I even owned a games console 😛
Well it’s from tombstone and doom,
But not so on the nose
The only other idea is a Gargoyle spirit
No need to explain the names, the vast majority of pokemon names are just portmanteaus.
Gravgoyle?
Gemgoyle?
No wait, I’ve got it
Garngoyle!
Too late Grimgoyl
Fair enough, looks weird without an e on the end though.
I’m keeping Garngoyle to myself though – none shall have it!
Keep it, sounds incredibly flamboyant
Oh yeah i had forgotten about that guy!
http://www.mariowiki.com/images/d/d5/Bouldergeist_SMG.png
Just the perfect concept
Dark/fairy
Electric/fire
And psychic/rock
Insaytr
Solasma
Astrobit
I know that these are polar opposites but steel/poison
Living trashcan with a living slimball that melded with the steel can
Evolves into a Dumpster
Wastenaut
Mega Garbador 😉
Haha i can see it being a thing
Well it won’t be, I theorized that artificial Pokemon or man made Pokemon cannot achieve mega evolution
“man made Pokemon cannot achieve mega evolution”
And what of Mewtwo?
I knew there was one! i just couldnt remember xD
Mewtwo has Mew’s DNA duh which has all the DNA in the world
And I also theorized that Mega Mewtwo’s method isn’t totally explained
It is highly believable that Mew may end up Mega Evolving at will
That Mega Mewtwo Y is resulting from Mew’s given DNA and hybridized
But as for X I theorized that Mega Evolution has honed into Mewtwo’s initial idea of being the world’s most powerful Pokemon and the mutant DNA is going out of wack supercharging the evolution process and
I see your point but what about mega mew then? Wouldnt mewtwos megastones work for it aswell?
In a sense yes,
But like I said I think they would change how Mew does it similar Rayquaza
(They could change the lore as games progress)
Personally I think the reason for both Mewtwo and Charizard’s X/Y mega splits is because the X form channels energy on the wavelength that Xerneas emits to create life, and the Y form channels enerfy on the wavelength that Yveltal emits to destroy life. Or some similar magical nonsense.
Yeah, I always saw MM2Y as having reverted to a more mew-like state (don’t really see why hybrdisation would be necessary, only a few silenced genes would suffice), and MM2X as Mewtwo unleashing it’s full potential and concept. It’s quite obvious that was the design idea, and that makes me really appreciate them.
Yep, had absolutely nothing to do with dragonball.
http://66.media.tumblr.com/4091aad5a326fcb67189a2e7b853b379/tumblr_mkw8xiqZEg1qzizv5o1_1280.jpg
Multiple inspirations are possible, and encouraged :p
……..that’s adorable
And when I say that the list includes
Muk
Electrode
Castform
Claydol
Golurk
Porygon-Z
And Magearna
Alola Grimer and Alola Muk Poison/Fire, dark as tar.
Eh, still wouldn’t use them.
That honestly wouldn’t be too far off
Sulfur is very smelly which grimer love, that could promoted a lifestyle to living in dark humid volcanic gas vents in volcanoes and the chemical mismash allows flames to ignite on its body but resisting the pain
I mean if you took say a small flame near its tongue or lips and it expelled a belch of flammable gasses then flamethrower, and all fire moves derive from an open flame on its body and the use of flammable gasses or liquids
You missed Genesect, Claydol and Banette
Well technically Genesect isn’t man made its altered
It was a insect in the Paleolithic era revived from a fossil
And I put Claydol
Banette is somewhat artificial but it has access to mega evolution only out of not receiving a Evolution to parallel Dusknoir
Ok, what about Deoxys?
Nice!
Fairy/Fairy
Tinker bell the fairy pokemon that has fairy powers and pixie dust
Already had ideas for a Tar Pokemon called Targloop, Fire/Poison
Dragon/Fairy
Luck Dragon
Oh yeah. You talked about it before
Luckee
Joygon
Furyu
Ground/Fairy.
Your favorite and least favorite
I’ve said many of times Pink Fairy Armadillo
Subterranean Pokemon who feed on underground plants during the day and surface at night to bask in moonlight, extremely popular as pets
I made that once
Grass/dragon :3
Us: Can we have a Grass/Dragon mega Gropius?
GF: Sure, that’s the one with trees and fruit right? Here.
*Alolan Exeggutor*
I can see a situation where they had a reunion where they voted between alolan exeggutor and alolan tropius and exeggutor won because of how goofy it looks lel
Drosaceae
A Velociraptor/frilled like Dragon with rose petal wings, and a long thorny tail
A vicious and silent Hunter that blends in foliage, they sport a high sense of vanity and
Of vanity and what? Pride? Beauty? Blood?
All three
Awesome, my kind of pokemon!
Then it becomes somthing like gigantic wyvern with a massive wingspan each feather being a flower petal, and a long neck with a long bird like beak that can stab through steel, and at the very end of this long thorny tail is a spiral of flowers and a long stinger
Normal/Ghost
How about a tiny white chibi like creature but it’s very own shadow moves and acts on its own defending its physical body
I like it
Steel/Dark
Treasurerous
A treasure chest with teeth aka a Mimic
Thats interesting
http://www.aidedd.org/dnd/images/mimic.jpg
The Luggage (Unleashed Form)
Discworld nod
Specifically Colour Of Magic, I think?
I dunno, I never read any of them.
http://www.gamingrebellion.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/571px-CanniboxArt.png?4d7588
https://youtu.be/XjsZ9nq7gg8
I can go one better:
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbc90gQRlB1r63w1v.jpg
That’s freaky, yet cool. I think the chest could be more stylized though.
That’s just a Dungeons & Dragons Mimic.
http://www.miniaturemarket.com/ddmm-014.html
Yeah, I figured it wasn’t a fakemon since they’re not usually drawn in this style. Although if we ever get a pokemon similar to the concept, I think a cooler chest would be beneficial to the design.
Well I don’t even know if Mimics are public domain
But it would be a metallic box like creature with eye markings similar to a keyhole and just have them prefer abandoned buildings and tombs and there ya go
Almost every RPG under the sun has a mimic equivalent. Dragon Quest (the one I plucked the Toriyama art from) has at least 3 variations. Legend of Zelda has them in various forms.
I’m not sure if D&D got there first, but they’re certainly ‘public domain’
Pokemon already has its mimics 😉 voltorb and foongus serve this exact purpose in the overworld
Yeah, but they’re both kinda meh.
I cant say much about Voltorb but i love Foongus!
Seeing as we’ve never really seen a treasure chest in pokemon before, I cant see how chest mimic would have much of an impact.
Poison Electric!
Hmmmmmmmmmm so tough
How about a Slimy Slug with electrostatic slime? A big fat purple and yellow slug with these weird antennas on its back
It secretes a poisonous fluid all around itself that when prey set foot in it discharges a powerful shock that electrocutes anything in the slime
Here we go:
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/fantendo/images/1/1b/PikYellPikShock.jpg
Oops, wrong one. That’s better:
http://pre11.deviantart.net/0017/th/pre/f/2015/181/9/f/banana_slug_creature_by_king_pass-d8zeour.png
I mean it’s a slimy slug but no electricity and pikmin are kinda…easy
Yellow pikmin was a joke. Goes to show that a grass/electric creature is possible.
That was the best I could find most yellow slugs on the internet are ‘banana slug’ jokes.
Oooo for grass/electric i had the idea of a two headed green pokemon that had a body similar to a four legged green dragon, its two neck would be long and it would have big leaves as wings, the heads would be lizard like but with yellow sunflower petals around them. “This pokemon spends the day in one spot with the heads taking energy from the sun, they become active at night. They use stored energy to unleash powerful electric attacks!” I dont have a name for it though
Just did some mass evolving in pkm go and got to level 19. I’m happy considering I only play it 1 or 2 hours max per day (sometimes I don’t even play it at all) while I see a lot of people constantly playing it. Ain’t nobody got time to be next to some pokestops the whole day
I have one pokeball and haven’t had an opportunity to go to a pokestop.. .-.
There are two next to my apartment so I don’t even have to go out to keep using them, but I don’t play it that much at home. I’ve seen some people level 33+
I’m lvl 21. I very rarely play, only when I have to to out somewhere
Hey does anyone have ideas for alolan forms? I can be explained or like raichu they just ate pancakes lol but mine would be alolan fearow, steel/flying. “Due to the harsh enviroment of alola only the toughest fearows survive, so eventually this gave them beaks as hard as diamonds and as sharp as a katana. One strike from their beaks is fatal to even the toughest of pokemon. This fearows also developed excetional wingspans that help them cover great distances, giving them the ability to fly to every island of alola! Be sure to always have a spare berry or two with you as many people in alola have been saved from this pokemon’s rage by giving them berries.
My only one is Vileplume being Grass/Flying since the tropic climate made their petals larger and lighter they are easily blown into the sky and by adjusting their petals they glide, but what prompted to change was that they developed a taste for higher altitudes allowing to better scatter seeds spores and pollen and it allowed more accessible sunlight and water so they learnt how to jump higher and even flap their petals to stay aloft
I find it to be really similar to hopips and its evos but your explanation made sense and it would be cool to see vileplume flying by as you ran through a route or city, great job!
Well technically Hoppip just floats in the air because it weights less then a pound
Skipbloom though shown to spin its flower it’s not officially stated that it uses it to fly
And Jumpluff uses its plugs to catch wind
Yeah i just thought that they were similar as they used the wind to fly but then i remembered that cottonee and whimsicott exist so another pokemon that uses the wind to fly isnt that of a big deal
But I can’t stress this enough they don’t learn major flying moves mostly Bounce Acrobatics and maybe Air Slash and that’s it
Remember it’s still a Vileplume
“as sharp as a katana” For a brief moment I read that as “as sharp as katakana”. I’ll ignore the fact that it would be unable to achieve katana-level sharpness for physics reasons (the way the metal is folded on a Katana). Also technically diamond is capable of being sharper than a Katana, though no known metal is as tough as diamond.
Otherwise it’s one of the saner Alolan ideas.
Shhh physics dont apply in pokemon 😉 haha but about the diamond thing i was debating between steel/flying and rock/flying but for me steel can be hard and sharp so i chose that one but i would use any of those two combinations
If physics don’t apply the type chart shouldn’t work.
The best way to handle things like that is to describe what the pokemon is capable of rather than giving it a set in stone level of strength. E.g. “Alolan Fearow is capable of punching holes in a coconut with a single blow, then sucking the innards out within a matter of seconds. Not even Metapod’s tough carapace is safe from Fearow’s piercing prowess.”
Steel makes more sense in my opinion, even if Skarmory alread fills that gap. Rock seems like too much of a leap for a pokemon that started as part flying. (And before you bring up Vulpix going from Fire to Ice A) I still think that was a tiny bit of a daft move on GF’s part, B) It’s quite possible they both share a Normal type ancestor)
Nah its ok the physics thing was just a joke and about the vulpix thing being a stretch, to me it kind of made a little sense, maybe instead of wasting energy creating heat for itself, vulpix saw that being cold was a more efficient option so it just let itself get frozen i guess
It wouldn’t have just let itself freeze, it would change over time. Kanto pokemon have been in Alola for over 500 years at least. I think it becoming a normal type at some point seems more likely. If it existed as a Normal type first, then the ones that lived in Kanto near Cinnabar Island eventually became fire type, while the ones in Alola living in the ice fields eventually became ice type. It wouldn’t be unheard of since eevee is a good example of a normal type that can become fire or ice type.
?? Where does it state that 500 year thing? And eevee has its own lore by having unstable dna, besides animals adapting to be more efficient is a common thing in evolution
I got the date for Magearna’s creation mangled with when the Alolan royal family was around. I just presumed from what clips I’ve seen of the Volcanion/Magearna film that Magearna was created in the era of the Alolan Royal Family’s existance, and it’s known that a Kanto Meowth was gifted to the Alolan Royal Family. Vulpix seems to have arrived when the first humans arrived though. “It is said that Vulpix came to the Alola region together with humans,”
Eevee has unstable DNA which is why it can still evolve, that’s not the point. The point is it shows that normal types are capable of becoming fire or ice, which means a gradual adaptation to a fire or ice environment wouldn’t be out of place to a normal pokemon. A fire type becoming an ice type would be odd, but a normal type seperately adapting to become fire or ice wouldn’t be as odd.
New article lads:
http://pokejungle.net/2016/08/14/pokejungle-rumours-redux/
CHANGE PLACES
I’m taking this with a grain of salt. That’s a whole waste of a mechanic just to limit Alolan form Pokemon to Gen 1 Pokemon. There’s plenty of Pokemon from other Gens that could do with some buffs as well. Like Lilligant, Corsola, Hawlucha and Torkoal.
The only Gen 1 Pokemon I want to see get any Alolan forms from here on out are Golduck, Parasect and Dodrio.
when they just confirmed happy hour meowth distribution today.
Rumors are confirmed. Happy Hour Meowth is out.
Nope
Seems like it was a false rumor after all. No Rainbow Greninja revealed today.