The September issue of CoroCoro has started to leak and with it comes a handful of new Pokémon and information.
UPDATE: More scans have leaked!
- Namakobushi (sea cucumber & fist) It uses fist-shaped organs which come out of its mouth to punch!
Yesterday’s leaks:
- Yowashi (weak sardine) is a new Water-Type Pokémon that calls on its friends to change form
- Sunabaa (sand + boo) and its evolution Shirodesuna (name literally means it’s a castle, isn’t it?) are Ghost/Ground-Type Pokémon
- Nuikoguma (plush/sewn + cub) is Bewear’s pre evolution and is Normal/Fighting
- Alolan Meowth confirmed and becomes Dark-Type
- Alolan Marowak confirmed and will be Fire/Ghost
- Evil Team is known as Team Skull, they are described as “the no-good Team Skull”. They’re described as hoodlums and you can see the Boss featured in the magazine
- Serebii is reporting that next month’s issue will feature a “secret evolution” for Rockruff
after 15 min of staring it is official. Im a Sandcastle stan. The best pokemon. A legend in the making, Golurk is shook. Smogon is shaking on their booties.
Stan? I see this all the time but have yet to figure out what it means?
It means they’re turning into trash for using an uneccesary made up word
is based on the eminen song (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSLZFdqwh7E) is basically being a hardcore fan
Welcome to the dark side
The Sandcastle reminds me of Monster House for some reason?
I oddly get that
oh yeah me too!
Supposedly, what you do know, we already got another rumor. It’s about Sand Castle Pokemon losing it’s Ground type when hit by a Water-type attack. Refresh if you can’t see the picture.
interesting
That comment at the top is gold! xD
If this is true I’m more willing to accept it.
I will love it even more for this
that would kinda be like mimikyu having its true form covered
They say it’s not a sandcastle Pokémon, but that’s exactly what its classification really is: Shirodesuna, The Sand Castle Pokémon.
Sunabaa is the Sand Pile Pokémon.
I think that makes it seem more legit though. Shirodesuna roughly means “that’s a castle” or “it’s a castle, isn’t it” which implies that it’s forcing people to believe it’s a sand castle, which would imply it’s actually not a sandcastle, which would imply it’s a ghost. Yay pun names
Like how Sudowoodo is like Pseudo Wood, which means like wood, which implies it’s not quite wood, which it isn’t because it’s a rock pretending to be a tree.
OH MY GOD SUDOWOODO I SUDDENLY LOVE IT BECAUSE THAT NAME FINALLY MAKES SENSE OMG
…You really didn’t know? lol
i also did not know about the name basis until today hahaha
o.o
You guys really need to check up your Poké info on Bulbapedia. That’s where I’ve learned of Pokémon name origins from different languages. I like that there’s usually a connection between names from other languages to the Japanese names.
Really? I’ve known since I was at least gen 4 if not earlier. (Bearing in mind I was roughly 7 when gen 3 was around, Probably ~12 at gen 4).
yeah i was also 6 or 7 when emerald was released and i was still new to pokemon back then and i only knew about bulbapedia when i was around 12 or something hahaha
You’re probably very slightly younger than me then, so fair enough.
yeah probably. i just turned 18 a few weeks ago lol
I started my 3rd decade of life about a year ago 😛
Dude, it’s been 4 generations and you only just got it. Delayed reaction is best reaction XD
Not when the thing one is reacting to is a knife flying in their direction.
YEAH LOLOL
That’s all nice and everything, but I’m merely talking about how that person said it’s not a sandcastle when it is. Unless it has another form that reveals its “true form” when it gets hit by a Water-type attack and looses its Ground-typing, it is still a sand castle, haunted or not.
Plus, it’s classified as the Sand Castle Pokémon. Now if it were classified as the Imitation Sand Castle Pokémon, I’d agree with it not really being a sandcastle. How would that person even know that “fact” about Shirodesuna, anyhow? Serebii nor Bulbapedia has mentioned that, so I’m guessing that wasn’t revealed in this CoroCoro leak.
All I’m saying is it’s highly plausible that it looses the ground typing.
Fair enough, but sand is still sand when wet and the ground is still the ground when soaked.
I’d prefer for Shirodesuna to obtain different appearances, somewhat like Furfrou. That sandcastle is looking kinda busted. We need better options.
I’m not going to support the pokedex leak, but something doesn’t seem right. sure, they didn’t get something as obvious as a bewear pre-evo, but correctly stating something as specific as a school of fish? I guess the details of it are a bit different than the leak led us to believe though…
Are people still trying to believe in that crap?
did you read the first sentence?
Usually never
Several have said that but good riddance to its falseness!
yeah I wasn’t a fan either.
I kinda liked it but they could have done better than Drakid I mean come on!
Which leaker said a school of fish?
The name Peskool kinda implied it seeing as it was listed as water type
Oh got it!
maybe it’s fake, maybe it’s real, we won’t know the full story until we have more info about it apart from just Japanese names.
but at the same time they got some facts wrong. now, I know leakers do this to avoid attention, but if you are leaking the entire dex, that’s gunna get some attention regardless. they said the school was an evolution (I think) and that it was water/psychic type.
I suppose they could’ve mixed fake ones in there…but I doubt it.
also belmad literally predicted the tuna pokemon yesterday
It’s a sardine?
like a game of sardines
A baby sardine
Saw her first submarine:
She was scared and watched through the peephole.
“Oh, come, come, come,”
Said the sardine’s mum
“It’s only a tin full of people.”
I keep thinking it’s an anchovy
Which makes me want Seafood, then seafood makes me want pizza, then the thought trails on and on until I either get a hungry or a headache
I had a shrimp poboy for lunch but I was ripped off and they charged me almost $20 for a shrimp sandwich
Yeah tuna and sardine are two completely different animals
The first ones a tuna chicken of the sea and the second is a sardine they are different but no harm no foul.
but aren’t tuna larger than sardines?
Usually, much larger yes
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY bigger. tuna are gigantic fish.
Yes much larger
Only if left whole, if you chop them up they fit in a can just like sardines.
Sorry stupid thing put them in wrong reverse what I said
Can I predict a Trout Pokemon and then call myself a psychic when the next fish Pokemon is revealed.
yes
When I was checking for the leaks, I saw the headline of a single fish becoming school of fish, and then I thought wow, so the leak was real. But then I saw the Bewear pre-evo and had a little moment of confusion. I guess the leaker had a lucky guess.
Does anyone else love this like me?!
Not one bit
There’s a shocker
If they’d kept it fire/ground, kept the fire red and kept the brownish colouring would you like it?
Ehhhhhh then I would just have anyone heavy water weakness and newfound Ground Weakness
Resists fire, poison, bug, steel, fairy.
Immune to electric.
Weak to water and ground.
Seems reasonable to me.
Love is a strong word and should only be reserved for Sandcastle
This is merely good.
I like it. Just not as much as the Sandcastle
I don’t get why they decided to do ghost/fire instead of ground/fire, but one of the best new additions without a doubt. Better than sand lumps and the fish equivalent of boolosus.
Probably to play on the death of Marowak…
So, to play on the death of one Marowak that happened once in Kanto and never again? *genwunner conspiricy*
Seriously though, it was just one Marowak that died. It’s not the only pokemon to ever die.
It’s a major event that happened in gen one and one of the most memorable. Gen 1 pandering
Frankly I’d forgotten about it.
It was one tiny incident.
“incident”
“incident – An event or occurrence. A (relatively minor) event that is incidental to, or related to others. An event that may cause or causes an interruption or a crisis”
“small”
In the grand scheme of things, yes. The ghost could have been removed and it wouldn’t have impacted the storyline that much. All it did was force the player to get the silph scope (a.k.a. a mcguffin).
it’s part of the pokemon, the cubone line is designed arround that story. cubones wear the skull of their dead mothers, marowak. it makes no sense in game with the breeding mechanic, but it’s still in the pokedex.
One of the cases where I think they went wrong with the lore, but I’ll forgive them because it was gen 1 and they didn’t know any better.
The traditional fire dance it performs is used to summon spirits and channel their energy.
Dunno why that would be an evolutionary advantage, but that’s genuinely the best explanation I’ve heard so far.
The evolutionary advantage is becoming Fire type to resist the Ice and Grass type it was previously weak to
I mean from becoming part ghost and not staying ground to be ground/fire.
IDK why, but his smaller body makes it look so awkward to me, like it’d be better if they kept his old proportions.
I like it. I’m just curious as to why Pawtion has a line under its mouth. take that away and it looks completely fine, but…. why? what is the line supposed to be?
I think it is a smile
is good (is not sandcastle but is good)
No. It doesn’t even look all that cool
Because it’s on fire. B)
It’s ok, I feel like the skull could’ve been better.
It’d be great if it didn’t look like a starving African kid.
I think its pretty awesome, I think Meowth is becoming my fav so far though, its expression and design is just so great
I wonder if alolan pokemon forms (which will hopefully not be all gen 1… hate this pandering the the pokemon company has been doing) will make passing egg moves easier?
I’m sick of the sucking up to Gen 1. I wish they would expand to other gens….
Alolan Bellossom. Flowers become hibiscus. Grass/Fairy. Nuff said.
Seriously. I would love another shark pokemon too this Gen…
A brand new shark or an alolan of our good old shark Sharpedo? Just clarifying because the root of this is about alolans 😛
Another shark as in a brand new one because there can’t possibly only be one shark in the vast oceans that separate the regions. Plus I need more sharks to love on :3
If they do, I want a basking shark
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/aX6xEjOMxys/maxresdefault.jpg
or a zebra bullhead shark
http://www.aquariumdomain.com/images/fish_marine/ZebraBullheadShark3.jpg
I would want a saw shark or a Zebra bullhead.
Main reasons I want a basking shark is because they live on the coasts of Britain and despite looking scary, are actually harmless and eats plankton. As a Bristolian sailor once said: “Arr, don’t worry lad, ’tis only a basking shark.”
still waiting for a proper giraffe pokemon tbh
You mean one that isn’t a palindrome in both name and form? 😀
I’m half and half about girafarig. I don’t dislike it, but I’d be unlikely to use it. And the tail is kind of creepy. I’m told it’s sentient.
yeah, like something that has a really long neck too :))) girafarig had so much wasted potential in my opinion
We got one. Alolan exeggcutor
Yeah. I love basking sharks
When I saw Yowashi for first time I mean its transformation I thought it’s basking shark…..I am not gonna lie I like the idea.
Or have you guys ever heard of the ghost shark?? I don’t have a picture but please google this thing! It’s incredible
The film or the fish?
Okay but bellossom is basically a gen 1 pokemon..since it evolves from gloom.
No because sun stones weren’t “discovered” until Gen 2
It’s gen 2, there was no sun stone in gen 1.
Fine, I’ll default to my crack ideas:
Furret gains electric type because it moves so fast it generates static.
Gogoat gains a new preditor so it develops a secondary poison typing to poison its prey.
Jumpluff finally learns how to fly and becomes part flying.
Jumpluff is flying?
I’m going senile. And I’m only on my 3rd decade of life :C
Oh, and I’ve been up 24 hours… woops
I’ve ammended it.
That’s why I said basically. Of course I know it’s gen 2. And you do realize jumpluff is a flying type?
I ammended it. For some reason only 1 of the 3 people telling me that came through. pokejungle needs to fix its message update system 😛
But Jumpluff IS part flying.
Nobody wants new forms of jumpluff, gogoat, or furret. Ones a gimmick, one is a regional rodent, and one is a forgettable grass type. Alolan forms should be giving to popular Pokemon and fan favorites
Yeah, because Marrowak and Sandslash were totally fan favourites.
Those were joke examples ftr, because Ultron disputed my Bellossom idea, so I made bad examples to prove it was a good example.
Seriously though, I like Gogoat and Furret.
I agree. We are celebrating 20 YEARS or Pokemon, not one year.
I think their egg groups would stay the same because they look the same mostly.
but they should be able to learn different moves with their new types so passing moves may be easier in some circumstances, at least I would imagine.
From that respect, it’s plausible, but I think they’d only be introducing another possible parent, not creating entirely new chains that weren’t available before.
Depends what GF have in mind for a move pool.
Wild Alolan Marowak be like…
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/16ReaCKy6SE/maxresdefault.jpg
Hawaiian fire dance.
what is that line under Pawtion’s mouth/face? I don’t understand what that is supposed to be and why that’s there.
idk what it is is really bugging me
I think it’s smiling
i wonder if the sardine pokemon will evolve
I doubt it considering what its second form is.
Well, its ability (The calling on its friends) will probably activate in a pinch. And I don’t know how they could pull off an evolution…. Actually. It could evolve into a Barracuda that calls upon it’s friends when threatened?
Not barracuda. Piranha 😀
But piranhas don’t school.
“Piranhas have a reputation as ferocious predators that hunt their prey in schools.” – Wikipedia
Piranhas school alright. They swarm their prey and strip it bare.
It’ll probably be a more interesting Basculin, meaning no evolution.
The awesome thing about the Alolan forms of Pokémon is that they make people like me reconsider using “older” Pokémon during the initial playthrough because they’re kinda brand new with new typings, abilities and moves. I would never have used a Marowak in 7th gen, but now I’m strongly considering it.
I just wish it wasn’t reserved to Gen 1. I’m so sick of special treatment they give to gen 1.
I’m going to scour the region and kill all of the new marowaks because they’re dumb.
And I could help
Please do.
Mudsdale would be perfect
Mudsdale sucks
Oh please it is a beautiful Pokemon
https://65.media.tumblr.com/daba2ee2c9d174ac907ad1331d49ab41/tumblr_oal0m9bBW71sr6y44o2_r1_500.jpg
Brony bait
So is virtually anything
So is Ponyta.
Best Ground type this generation
ALMOST as good as Sandcastle
I am not sure which should I choose him or Shirodesuna.
Mudsdale design is not very aesthetically pleasing. It’s so bulky and those orange appendages are just weird. Definitely one poke I will never use
Dead to me
Apendages? Do you mean the dreadlocks or the ruffles around the feet? Both are features of real breeds of equine animals. There’s a sort of pony/donkey with dreadlocks and the ruffles are from work horses like shire horses.
I like mudsdale :C.
Better horse than Rapidash.
It’s a proper workhorse.
Sounds like a good plan.
Kill all Bruxish too while you’re at it. Snap them in half and throw them in a vat of acid.
I wonder if they’re edible
Flay the meat,
Throw some bread crumbs, a little butter and garlic and serve with lemon juice and a hearty veggie dish and some mashed potatoes
Psychic sushi!
God I just want to go to an all you can eat sushi buffet and just eat enough to starve a whale
I’ll consider doing that, should be good for the EXP
I Agree with this 100%, im just waition on my Aquanine to add to my team
People really want arcanum with to be a water type for some reason and I really don’t understand why or even how the logic behind this works. A fire type adapting to its environment makes sense to me. But a large fire dog turning into some weird amphibious creature. Would that just be samurott all over again?? There’s 10 other types I could see arcanine becoming before water
I see your logic but going based off the leaks that’s what we should be expecting. I Don’t Know how they are going to say he adapted to water but apparently that’s whats going to happen.
So the leaks are proven real?? Because I don’t render seeing any of these new pokes on that list
unless I’m mistaken, I thought the Chinese leak spoke about abra line being fighting and arcanine being water.
Yes that’s what the Chinese leak said.
That dex list had nothing to do with the previous leaks and people shouldn’t group them as one, the one who talked about Arcanine was the one that had Oricorio leaked.
Whatever he turns into I’m using regardless lol
Ironically gen 1 is the only gen I don’t tend to dip into much, everything else is fair game.
I tend to mostly use only new pokemon for my story playthrough because they’re usually most abundant and I want to try out the new stuff, but I’ll use anything I like for competative. Appropriately IV & EV trained, with their moves and abilities already picked.
it really doesnt matter because there are more than 700 pokemon if you didnt use marwak others will…but still I like the concept
I always thought that XY was super easy. Right now I’m doing a no exp share X run, my god the level jumps are insane. After exiting Connecting cave this girl whooped my ass with a level 19 Axew spamming Dragon Rage on my Pokemon (they are in the range of level 19-15).
This is what I’ve been telling people for ages. X&Y wasn’t easy, the Exp Share mechanic made things level up 3x faster 😛
Here’s the thing. The old style EXP is share is needed to in order to avoid having to switch train….and allowing you to train up one Pokemon at a time.
The new style EXP share is unneeded since it makes the game too easy, however it helps with EV training multiple Pokemon at once
My solution. Have the only style EXP share until post-game, where you can upgrade it to the newer style.
I’m fine with Lucky Egg replacing the hold version of Exp share.
Reserving it until the after game is reasonable enough though.
I know, but I thought turning off EXP Share would make it a tad bit harder and not an absolute pain to level up.
Most likely. http://i.4cdn.org/vp/1470761867695.png
They’ll probably change the eye style of Dark Persian, but otherwise the colours are likely.
Ooooo oooo make the sclera lime green and the eye deep yellow
I was just thinking like lazy expression or mean expression, but yeah, eye colour mixup, sure.
Gotta say it looks slick
Not bad point I think.
Maybe Alolan Persian has a more special typing so they didn’t reveal it this time. Dark/Steel would be neat.
Dark/Steel Alolan Persian Cool,If that cat goes on a one way trip to a 4x Fighting City
Dark/Normal would have been interesting. Makes it weaker to fighting but immune to ghosts.
Works for me
Might be, I do think in stead of ‘buffing’ up, it will even be more slimmed down.. More like Liepard, more gracious!
We should analyze Meawoth concept and wat its based on …. being bred by the royal family , I am sure that based on something in real life cuz sound very familiar.
“Queen Kapi’olani had a habit of picking up stray cats and dogs and bringing them to one of her homes or to Hale ʻĀkala (“the Pink Bungalow” behind ‘Iolani Palace which served as the private residence of the King and Queen)… Some of the cats at ‘Iolani Palace by the Banyan Tree may be descendants of cats from the reign of King Kalākaua.”
Possibly this?
When you press B in the middle of an evolution
they don’t evolve
Even more of a nightmare than Gyarados
Welp, there goes the Pokedex leak.
RIP Electric owl.
How would that possibly happen
by evolving on Mele Mele, the electric island of course.
It is so not an electric island, it’s just an island named after a colorful
but the guardian of the island and one form of the bird pokemon are electric types.
Each Island has a type based on their color. Mele Mele, or yellow is Electric. Red is Fire, Pink is Psychic and Purple is Ghost.
And?
And the Pokemon living there, or where the Captains live focus on those types. Although fake, I discovered that the different typing for Rokruff and the starters evolution are due to which island they evolve on.
That really just don’t do it for me
Bruv you’re like David Nixon level
That’s just a rumour, not canon.
yeah I suppose so
cuz it’d be cool
That just pisses me off
Let’s kill all humans.
Why?
cuz it’d be cool
These are entirely different questions and circumstances.
Let’s make all pokemon part dragon type.
Why?
cuz it’d be cool
These are, again, entirely different questions.
See what happens
Your “cuz it’d be cool” is a stupid breeding ground
But why do you have to take pokemon so bloody seriously? Why does every design or type have to make sense with it’s lore?
Is it not possible to have a pokemon be one type because it’d be pretty cool to some people, especially when it’s an alternate form or evolution?
Because that’s how things work
Wow quality answer 10/10 rebutted everything I said there
Nothing happens without reason
That’s also a terrible philosophy.
I don’t understand how pokemon went from a game where you collect some badass creatures and make them fight other badass creatures to a game where everything has to make sense.
Does Dragon Exeggutor make sense? Hell no. But it’s funny and cool so they put it in.
Madagascar dragon Palm
Yes it does actually. Aside from being based upon the Dracaena plant (known as the dragon palm), gaining dragon powers makes it stronger against fire, water, grass and electricity, all of which are common types, especially in Alola, a place with a volcano, lush forests and deep oceans. Exeggutor became part dragon in order to survive. Survival of the fittest.
Because if things aren’t backed by logic, the lack of logic can be used to explain more and more crazy ideas and encourages lazy writing. The more bad logic creeps in, the more they can do crazy deus ex machina stuff like “the villain was actually a robot” or “it was all a dream” or “pikachu can be any type it wants to”. It’s writing/worldbuilding 101.
Pokedex: “… The electric owl pokemon. It’s an electric owl cuz electric owls are cool and it desparately wants to be cool.”
And who is to say Nintendo couldn’t make this work?
That’s like saying “sharks evolved into sharks because they thought being sharks would be cool”. Apart from making zero sense, it’s a paradox – a shark cannot become a shark because it thinks sharks are cool if sharks don’t already exist. Plus a species doesn’t just become what it wants, it becomes what it needs to be. Pikachu became electric because its electricity is a good weapon against other pokemon it encounters and because it can zap berries to make them more paletable, and all those other reason that fill the pokedex. Exeggutor has a long neck because of photosynthesis. These things make sense, they are building blocks, they are good writing. “Because it’s cool” is really awful 10 year old-level writing.
question: Could it bethat the dex leak might possibly be an early draft?
Omfg it was just a stupid 4chan pokedex, we see hundreds of these every
year
Get over it
I find it funny how it happens every time. And people fall for it every time.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
And I never believe them once
I still want my Ground/Fighting gorilla and Bug/Dark mosquito
Both type combos I’ve pitched
Yeah cause they’re incredible
Doubt it. 😛 Leave it, it’s over at this point.
Nope the leaker actually admit about his biggest lie. http://boards.4chan.org/vp/thread/27649536/pokedex-list
For those who watched the demo at E3. Was the gameplay footage used final? If so, and I know I am late for just realizing this now, then we can say that Pikachu does not have an Alola form because your rival is using a perfectly ordinary Pikachu. This also extends to any ordinary Pokemon we found in the wild such as Ledyba.
Alolan Exeggutor is the evo of a perfectly normal Exeggcute so it’s not out of the question yet. But I don’t think that any of these would have Alolan Forms because they’re very early.
Always thought Ledian should have been Bug/Fighting so I hope so, but doubt it.
Understandable but in all seriousness Ledian really just doesn’t attribute a fighter
Sure the Mach Punch and comet punch mittens but that’s where the comparison ends
I dunno, I think the punches are convincing. I’d prefer a third evolution to an alolan form though, so it would actually look legitimately robust instead of a small insect with gloves.
I always thought median should evolve into scizzor instead of scyther
Nah, that wouldn’t make sense. Ladybug vs mantis, different species.
Yeah but scythed is clearly based more on the praying mantis than scizzor is. I actually don’t even know what scizzors based off of
Scizor is a praying mantis with claws instead of scythes.
Yeah, sounds almost as strange as a remora becoming an octopus.
I was anticipating someone pulling that one.
If Octillery didn’t evolve from Remoraid, what other existing pokemon would it potentially evolve from?
Nothing, really, but who says it had to evolve from something? It would’ve been just fine as a standalone.
Fair enough.
Gamefreak were probably trolling on that one.
Point still stands, out of Scyther and Ledian, Scizor is more likely to evolve from Scyther in terms of appearance. If they’d had alt forms back then, it probably would have just been an alt form because of the stats.
I doubt it was final; they never show final footage until release. And Hau uses Pichu, so Alolan Pikachu/Raichu is still a possibility.
At least the leaks are fake, so no spoilers!
(hopefully)
And all it took was a smaller set of spoilers to disprove it! : )
Oh deff we Will have a lot of (fake) lists untill the release.
Braise yourselfs! Cause the fakers gonna fake fake fake.
I hope you mean “brace” instead of “braise” because I’m not fond of the idea of cooking myself. :p
Im sorry, that is what i meant yes.
My grammar of the english language isnt the best 😉
It’s okay, I wasn’t trying to be mean. I just couldn’t resist the joke. 🙂
Always in for a joke! And i learned something again Today on my age of 25
After looking over at the designs a few more times, I’m actually liking the Sandcastle now.
I’m hoping the sardine evolves. The article says it’s name means “weak sardine,” and from what I can remember off the top of my head, if a Pokemon name implies that it’s weak it usually evolves into something that’s not weak. The only problem is that ability. I wouldn’t be mad if it lost the ability upon evolution; it it could just a survival tactic for a weaker evolution.
I think the sand castle is probably the worst inanimate object poke of all time. Like what THE FUCK IS that?? And no I’m not just hating. The design looks like it was drawn by a 5 year old and could’ve been executed better. Just not feeling it at all.
“The design looks like it was drawn by a 5 year old” I’ve made that comment twice today already 😛
Great minds think alike
I like it. I wasn’t fond of it at first because I thought it was a sandcastle, but the typing (Ghost/Ground) implies that it’s actually a ghost inhabiting a sandcastle, not a sentient sandcastle
I would have agreed a couple hours ago, but after looking at how it’s attacking pikachu I’m okay with it (still not great). It’s not much different than grimer and muk
Muk and Grimer are sludge monsters and deserve way more credit than the living SAND CASTLE. Even if it’s just about design, Grimer and muks are executed way better
Lol nope. They literally have one colour scheme, and nothing about them is creative. One of the GF employees was walking past a toxic treatment facility and saw a pile of gunk.
The only thing remotely interesting about them is the idea of radioactive mutation to make it a living pile of sludge. Even that’s a stretch.
Who says it’s an inanimate object?
It’s just a Ghost that resides in coastal areas and can minipulate sand to capture prey
Its inanimate because sand castles – the thing the Pokemon is based on- aren’t living things.
Every generation has at least one poke based on an inanimate object. Inanimate means “not biological”
But it’s not a sandcastle; it’s a ghost inhabiting a sandcastle. It’s perfectly biological (assuming ghosts are considered living in the Pokemon world).
Dude chill with the technacalitys. I just said every gen has at least one Pokemon based on an INANIMATE OBJECT. Something in the REAL WORLD that’s not alive. Last gen we had a ghost sword as well as a fairy type car keys. These objects IN THE REAL WORLD, are inanimate. They aren’t alive and never will be. I know what is SUPPOSED to be but that doesn’t stop the real world inspiration which is a sand castle.
Something like rotom on the other hand IS a ghost that literally goes around possessing objects. But rotom isn’t based on a fridgerator or lawn mower the same way ghostcastle is based on a SAND CASTLE
Alright, I know when I’ve been proven wrong, but it looks like I’m not the one who needs to chill. We’re both correct, but we were viewing the concept from different perspectives, and I see that now.
Blah blah blah i bet if you saw it in action you’d warm up to it
Possibly! I can’t wait for the video footage to drop
Sand contains minerals, so it most certainly is ”alive”
Minerals aren’t alive. Minerals are things like crystals – they’re just simple inanimate chemical constructs.
Not al minerals are chemical constructs lol
Humans are a mass of various chemical constructs.
Your brain is a big mass of cells transmitting electricity.
“Minerals can be described by various physical properties which relate to
their chemical structure and composition. Common distinguishing
characteristics include crystal structure and habit, hardness, lustre, diaphaneity, colour, streak, tenacity, cleavage, fracture, parting, and specific gravity. More specific tests for minerals include magnetism, taste or smell, radioactivity and reaction to acid.”
The point is, minerals are not alive. Sand is not alive.
You’re making me happy with the science lol
Science + Pokemon = Happiness.
I would like a pokemon that is capable of performing electrolysis 😀
I’m still waiting on a bacteria or legit virus pokemon. Something for my own because I’m a Microbiologist
Maybe a mutation of Pokerus or something?
A bacteria like pokemon would definately be interesting. At the moment the closest we’ve got to that is Solosis.
Or some new mechanic, like a new temporary status condition similar to curse?
I would love a pokerus mutation becoming a pokemon as virus have high error proved replication
Agreed. Part of the (biological?) definition of “living” is that it must metabolize. Certainly, sand does not have a metabolism 😛
But everything is made up of atoms and their subatomic particles…
Explain? I’m curious
Then technically everything is alive because atoms make up everything.
“A chemical substance is a form of matter that has constant chemical
composition and characteristic properties.” “Chemical substances can be
chemical elements, chemical compounds, ions or alloys.”
SCIENCE!
They can be pure compounds (solid or liquid) and/or ions also. Nonetheless, you’re correct 🙂
“A chemical substance is a form of matter that has constant chemical composition and characteristic properties.” “Chemical substances can be chemical elements, chemical compounds, ions or alloys.”
‘Pure compound’ and ‘chemical construct’ are not mutually exclusive terms. Helium and hydrogen are chemicals technically, as are (presumably) isotopes of all chemical elements/compounds.
Oh I was just using pure as isolating a chemical compound from contaminates. It does, however, still have a chemical composition because, well, everything is chemistry haha. Hope I didn’t confuse you.
That’s fine, I just usually assume purity to be implicit.
No 5 year old I know would have come up with that design. 5 year olds can barely hold a pen or colour within the lines.
The sandcastle is brilliant cos it shows creativity. How can we make something normal and fun into something scary and dangerous.
Read the description in Serebii. The little one is literally the manefestation a Pokemon’s grudge, whereas the larger one traps and steels the life force of Pokemon, in the process forming more of the little one. Well done Gamefreak, well done.
Wait what. ..? 5 year olds are much more able than u assume. It doesn’t have to be a perfect drawing to resemble something.
A 5 year old may be able to draw a sandcastle, but a 5 year old would not make the towers look like arms, nor would they come up with the concept behind the Pokemon (which is all part of its overall design)
“No 5 year old I know would have come up with that design. 5 year olds can barely hold a pen or colour within the lines.”
So it’s just like the person who drew that sandcastle pokemon?
Except the person who came up with the idea, actually came up with the idea (that’s why we are able to see it), and the colouring is within the confines of the Pokemon.
“The design looks like it was drawn by a 5 year old” Nobody but you said anything about coming up with the design.
If we’re going to discuss the level of creativity, I’d rank it at the level of a fakemon designed by a 12 year old, drawn with the skills of a 5 year old.
So it was designed by a 12 year old, and drawn by a 5 year old. Sorry, my bad, I didn’t understand. Not sure how meaningful these arbitrary numbers are, but cool.
Personally the drawing was able to fully convey the design and concept to me, therefore I have the impression that this is a good Pokemon.
Vanillish’s drawing was able to fully convey the design and concept of an ice cream to me, therefore …
Garbador’s drawing was able to fully convey the design and concept of an ice cream to me, therefore …
Yes. It’s called opinion. Everyone has one. Everyone sees things differently. If the concept and design appeal to you as an individual you will like it, and you will defend your opinion when challenged.
I find this Sandcastle more interesting than Garbodour and I always thought Garboduor was great. Vanilluxe is something I was never find of, but I know some people are.
Also careful when copy and pasting 😉
My point was that your reasoning that a pokemon gives you a good impression just because the drawing conveying a design/concept is illogical. A drawing can convey a design/concept perfectly, it does not change the subject matter. That’s like daying “draw a lump of cow poo well enough and it will make people like cow poo”.
You say everyone has an opinion – Vlad had an opinion, you’re the one who started disputing it, I and others came along afterwords.
Fair enough. I will accept my mistake. I was more taken aback by the manor in which he made his opinion known. And as I said its natural to defend something you like.
And I can reverse your argument by simply saying a design done by a 12 year old or a drawing done by a 5 year old doesn’t make it a bad design nor drawing, so why use that argument in the first place…
Personally I’m not a fan of the Bewear line, and I have made my opinion on that known, however I have refrained from arguing against people who like it.
Sorry if I came across as defensive, but personally I liked the drawing and the design, and it has stood out to me amongst almost everything else revealed this gen.
Well, all I’m going to say is there are many of us who ~really~ don’t like the sandcastle. If any of us are going to be convinced, it’s going to be by game footage, not people.
From my experience. Once you form an opinion on something, it’s very difficult to have that opinion changed.
Personally for me I have to see a Pokemon is two different way. Design/Concept and Competitive Viability. I can like somethings design but know it’s bad competitively, or I can dislike a design, but have no qualms about using it competitively if it’s good. A good example would be TalonFlame (poor designwise, good competitively).
I’m now split on the new alolan forms. On one hand they’re pretty cool, but on the other they may as well be new Pokemon. Atleast they finally put real evolution in the game.
I’m convinced they’ll get new Pokedex numbers and movesets and generally be considered new Pokemon because it would be easier than treating that many Pokemon as forms. I could be wrong though.
I think you’re wrong. Look at Wormadam and Gastrodon.
Besides, there’s always a regional dex.
All Wormadam and Gastrodon have the same abilites among their different forms, and Gastrodon have the same types and movesets. However, Alolan variants are confirmed to have different abilities and types (and likely different moves). It could realistically go either way.
Well then it’s more like Meowstic case.
What belmad said.
Meowstic is proof positive.
Besides I don’t think they’d waste new numbers on them if they’ve got the same name, it’s just be more for fans to remember.
Most fans would instinctively think “Ninetales, gen 1, first 151” not “Oh but it’s alolan Ninetales so I’ve got to go all the way to the end”.
I guess that’s a pretty solid point, but I’m hoping it turns out the way I mentioned. I’ve got my PC sorted by Pokedex number, so I’d hate two have to Exeggutor with the same spot in the box. :p
How do you handle Wormadam, Meowstic, Gastrodon etc? Just catch one?
I’ve got a box for forms that won’t fit in their respective boxes, but I hate how inconvenient it is. I suppose I can keep doing that with Alolan forms, but I’ll still hate the inconvenience.
Moar boxes.
Seriously, more boxes is on my wishlist.
I don’t trust pokemon box because it’s on an external server and it’s subscription based. I’d rather buy a device that works as a pokemon storage device that the 3DS can interface with, so I know if my pokemon go missing it’ll be my fault and I can accept it. If Nintendo Bank’s servers died and lost loads of pokemon, I’d never trust Nintendo servers again.
That’s why I keep a living ‘Dex on whatever the newest game is, and another living ‘Dex in Bank. That way if one’s lost, I’ll still have the other.
I used to keep living dexes, but since I took up IV training it’s been becoming harder. I think now I’d settle for “the tools to rebuild my dex should it be required”.
Seriously though, a little external brick that can infra-red connect to the 3DS and store pokemon. Like pokemon box, but a one off pocket sized device instead of a rare gamecube disk. Would solve so much because Nintendo wouldn’t have to keep their servers running so it would be cheaper and players would have it as a one off purchase instead of subscription. It would be cheap to make: some SD-grade flash memory and a really basic ARM/AVR CPU with an infrared thing and maybe a monochrome display for feedback, or just some lights and a simple dot matrix.
Sorry, got carried away. I’m a programmer, these sorts of things interest me 😛
I think they Will recieve their old number. Its still from gen1 you know. Else they must adjust everything..
Wouldn’t that have to mean they are only available after receiving the national dex though?
I did never pay Any attention to the national dex, only on the regional dex, so thats what i meant
Nope, regional dex will have custom numbering as ordinary.
The point is the alola and kanto forms share the same numbers in both.
“I still can’t believe so many people just instantly believed this shit without the slightest hint of proof or evidence. There was absolutely no reason to believe this. Sometimes people on /vp/ amaze me with how fucking dumb they are.”
Rude. .. but he has a point. Why did we believe this? I “knew” it was fake… But the other leaks was real so gave in.
But there were no important names attached to it.. no nothing. Just things we already knew. So why? Hmm
Leaks aren’t confirmed until they’re made canon.
That’s why people like them, if they’re wrong it provides a sense of victory or surprise.
Personally I marked them as unlikely but plausible because I liked the sound of some of them and some of the other leaks would have been more disappointing (here’s looking at you Tony Tiger).
No… I don’t like them! It makes me feel like a fool! I will be more cynical next time!
The answer is to accept things as plausible when leaked, but never accept them as canon until they are proved to be canon beyond reasonable doubt (i.e. videos and corocoro).
That’s not me though. I’m very black and white. I like to commit fully to one side. I’m bound to lose round half the time ?
You might as well flip a coin or roll a dice 😛
We Can always hope rece
Awee.. that was cute. Lol. K
Alolan sandshrew is cute yes
???
I somehow choose to believe it for two reasons:
1.I liked some of the ideas, genuinely wanted them to be true and didn’t want them to be lost on internet forever.
2.What I dumped in the fake bin before always turned out to be true for all these times so I didn’t want to be the fool this time and I wanted to be proud of myself by believing it if they are going to be true. However you know…
I was just hoping for Rowlet’s final form’s name to be a play on Robin Hood
At least it’s design is. .. it’s so cool! ?
Lol.. at 2. True
I’m just glad that Tapu Pipi isn’t real. ;p
???
I was told u it was a red Zygarde …but no one believe me. http://i.4cdn.org/vp/1470768784885.jpg
Is it just me or is there just a little light and a lot of darkness not a new colourded zygarde
really ???…..the light only Affects on one Zygarde r sure wat r u talking about.
Not really i guess?
Haha sorry, clicked on it on my phone.
When i made it bigger i saw what u meant
That’s a screen filter. For dramatic scenes.
No, look at the upper picture more carefully. There’s a second Zygarde
I see that. I’m saying it looks red because they’re using a red filter to make the scene more dramatic. Like how this film uses a yellow filter to add suspense:
http://www.robertmills.me/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/traffic-benicio-del-toro-7046010-1400-968.jpg
Not denying the red core idea, just offering an alternative.
But it has red markings while the one opposite of it has green.
That could still be the lighting. The red light overpowering the green. The zygarde in the foreground is far enough away that the red light is not affecting it.
So Team Flare have created their own evil Zygarde and have managed to take over Lumoise City, and only the real Zygarde in it’s Complete Form could stop it.
It’s not a new Zygarde it’s Z2 the second Zygarde Core
created by Team Flare
If you’re thinking “Team Flare because it’s red”, please clean your brain and think again.
duh! I stopped watching the anime since almost 10 years ago (rewatch from quitting during Johto), so I don’t care very much for it.
I’m trying to keep up from the league. This season is actually good. The English voices kind of ruin it for me though. I watch subbed
The company have a habit of recycling old plits for the newer audiences, so that’s why I’ve stopped watching.Once you’ve seen the original, you’ve pretty much seen them all.
Perhaps if Ash does win Kalos and become the new Champion, and after dealing with this new problem, he’d pretty much deserves a holiday (Vacation), and what better than Alola.
No. Not this season at least. I wish they would tbh, cuz nothing beats the naivety and brattiness of the original seasons to me. But they want Ash and Pikachu and friends to be Very Mature 10yr olds ?
13 actually in the original Japanese dub. That’s the age anyone becomes a Pokemon Trainer. Which of course is apparently the age of consent.
Wait wut..
No. 10. I don’t see anyone mentioning he is 13. You watched a bad dub
don’t believe me? look it up!
I think you’ll find perfectly well of why the female Playable Characters for each game has clothes that look too much to what mature people would wear, know what I’m saying?
Lol 13 ain’t mature. I’d prefer 13 tbh
well try telling that to Japan, they often do strange things over there.
In fact there were bits in the actual anime that were cut out because of it being inappropriate, such as James having boobs, the use of guns. And don’t forget with the Cheryl and Combees episode where this notorious Meowth daydream was cut out showing the boss, covering his entire body with honey and letting wild pokemon lick him.
Yeah, pretty much Japan if you know what I as a western person is saying?
Actually I see… But it’s almost as if they decided to make him 10 even in Japan soon after that. No where mentions him being 13 again aside from the original jap dub. I think they decided to make him 10 even there. But no one seems to know. Everyone says 10
yeah! they made 10 for the purpose of marketing it for little kids.
Seems strange when Takato from Digimon Tamers is actually 13?
Wait so.. even in Japan.. he is 10 as of now right?
nope, he’s 13, like Misty, May, Dawn, Iris, Serena and Mallow are.
No see… That I disagree with. Because everywhere considers him 10 only. I think they changed it. Less u can find proof for us. My Google results only mention dub
Do you have any evidence for this. I had a look around and couldn’t find any.
As I said, look it up. You can’t miss it.
I checked wikipedia and bulbapedia. No mention.
well from what I’ve heard he was suppose to be 13. Not only that, Ash was suppose to win the Kanto league, marry Misty, have kids, and then the next anime will focus on Ash’s kids adventure through Johto.
Though it never went that way, it would make ‘generation’ perfect sense.
“What I’ve heard”. From who exactly? First time I’ve heard of that.
Ash marrying Misty sounds like pure fanfiction.
Also Johto was only set a few years after Kanto, the returning gym leaders, elite 4 and champion haven’t aged much.
I watched a subbed one whilst pottering around youtube and I was surprised how much more mature it seemed. Even if Ash used a horrible tactic that wouldn’t work in the game (it was his battle with the fairy gym leader, he used X-Scissor on a Wonder Room or something crazy).
Lol I remember that. I don’t know if I would call it horrible.. seeing as it’s the “real world” to them.
I wish he behaved his age more.. tbh
I just wish they’d stick to the rules of the game, or let us do what they do in the anime.
I still think ash is older but they just don’t mention it.
Either that or I’ll go with a crack theory: the real ash is in a coma and the entire thing is one long dream. In reality years have passed, but in his mind, ash is forever 10.
I feel the same at times. .. ?
Sticking to the rules of the game, letting us do anime stuff or being stuck in a coma in a dream where you’re 10?
The first hehe.. but maybe both
Dummy, Zygarde have multiple cores (but I hypoithize only 2)
Also a reasonable explanation.
Red Zygarde?
In the upper picture you can see a second Zygarde with red markings
I believed lol
Well done, Shady. This will probably be like Red Genesect and never been seen outside of Japan because Gamefreak hates the rest of the world.
Anybody else here watching Dragon Ball Super too?
Never heard of it. . . New Dragon ball?
Yes its a new anime series. Its set after the events of the Majin Buu saga but before GT.
I could never keep up with their timeline.. I just know a few faces and that I like any Dragon Ball whenever I watch it ?
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-book-gt-toriyama-intro/
On the last paragraph, Akira Toriyama mentioned that GT is a side story. This indicates that GT is not canon.
Nevertheless, its set after the Majin Buu saga but before GT because Pan is still an infant in Super.
Is she? I’ve never seen it. I only brought up the comment because it sparked a memory of GT not being canon.
Yes she appears in a few episodes. She’s still a baby
Nope
Waiting for the dub….I’m watching the uncut Kai on Toonami and sort of making my way up to it. I assume as soon as the English dub reaches that point Super will have been dubbed lol
Tend to avoid Kai because it doesn’t have the original soundtrack, so it doesn’t feel the same to me.
But at least it looks pretty!
That’s the only thing that’s bumming me out……The android and Cell themes were great back in the day and now the scenes with them feel a little empty. Other than that I can’t complain too much lol