Gym Leader Showdown: Unova

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Greetings Junglers, Evan here! I’m bringing you the winner of the Showdown of Sinnoh, somewhat later than planned. The winner of the Sinnoh Gym Leaders is… Volkner with an astonishing 36% of the votes. There hasn’t been a Gym Leader who was so popular compared to its region’s Gym Leaders yet! The runner-up is Candice (15%), followed by Fantina (13%).

Sinnoh - Volkner

This week: The Unovan Gym Leaders. There are a lot more options to choose from this time, so I reckon it’ll be somewhat harder! Good luck and let us know your pick in the comments!

Cilan, Chili and CressUnova - Cilan, Chili and Cress

  • Gym Leader 1 (BW)
  • Grass, Fire and Water respectively
  • Lillipup, Pansage, Pansear and Panpour
  • Striaton City
  • Triple Badge
  • Work Up
  • Name: Spices
  • Trivia: Their Trainer title in Japanese is “Triple Trouble”

CherenUnova - Cheren

  • Gym Leader 1 (BW2)
  • Normal
  • Patrat and Lillipup
  • Aspertia City
  • Basic Badge
  • Work Up
  • Name: Ceren, Bulgarian for black
  • Trivia: Cheren is the first rival to become a Gym Leader within a generation.

LenoraUnova - Lenora

  • Gym Leader 2 (BW)
  • Normal
  • Herdier and Watchog
  • Nacrene City
  • Basic Badge
  • Retaliate
  • Name: Normal
  • Trivia: Lenora is the only Unova Gym Leader whom Ash had to rebattle to earn the badge.

RoxieUnova - Roxie

  • Gym Leader 2 (BW2)
  • Poison
  • Koffing and Whirlipede
  • Virbank City
  • Toxic Badge
  • Venoshock
  • Name: Toxic and rock music
  • Trivia: Roxie is the first Poison Gym Leader after Gen 1.

BurghUnova - Burgh

  • Gym Leader 3
  • Bug
  • Whirlipede, Dwebble and Leavanny
  • Castelia City
  • Insect Badge
  • Struggle Bug
  • Name: Bug
  • Trivia: Burgh is the only returning Gym Leader in BW2 that only uses Gen 5 Pokémon.

ElesaUnova - Elesa

  • Gym Leader 4
  • Electric
  • Emolga, Emolga and Zebstrika
  • Nimbasa City
  • Bolt Badge
  • Volt Switch
  • Name: Electric and Tesla
  • Trivia: Elesa is the only female Electric-type Gym Leader.

ClayUnova - Clay

  • Gym Leader 5
  • Ground
  • Krokorok, Palpitoad and Excadrill
  • Driftveil City
  • Quake Badge
  • Bulldoze
  • Name: Well, I guess clay
  • Trivia: Clay is called the Underground Boss in Japan.

SkylaUnova - Skyla

  • Gym Leader 6
  • Flying
  • Swoobat, Unfezant and Swanna
  • Mistralton City
  • Jet Badge
  • Acrobatics
  • Name: Sky
  • Trivia: Skyla’s grandfather was a legendary pilot.

BrycenUnova - Brycen

  • Gym Leader 7 (BW)
  • Ice
  • Vanillish, Cryogonal and Beartic
  • Icirrus City
  • Freeze Badge
  • Frost Breath
  • Name: Ice
  • Trivia: Brycen is the only Ice-type specialist whose team only consists of pure Ice-type Pokémon.

DraydenUnova - Drayden

  • Gym Leader 7 (BW2) or 8 (B)
  • Dragon
  • Fraxure, Druddigon and Haxorus
  • Opelucid City
  • Legend Badge
  • Dragon Tail
  • Name: Dragon and den
  • Trivia: The only differences between Drayden’s and Iris’ teams in BW, are all the genders and the abilities of Haxorus and Druddigon.

IrisUnova - Iris

  • Gym Leader 8 (W)
  • Dragon
  • Fraxure, Druddigon and Haxorus
  • Opelucid City
  • Legend Badge
  • Dragon Tail
  • Name: Flaming dragon iris (a flower)
  • Trivia: Iris is the first Champion to keep her Japanese name.

MarlonUnova - Marlon

  • Gym Leader 8 (BW2)
  • Water
  • Carracosta, Wailord and Jellicent
  • Humilau City
  • Wave Badge
  • Scald
  • Name: Marine
  • Trivia: Because of Marlon’s addition in BW2, there are two Water-type Gym Leaders in Unova (the first one being Cress).

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X — EVAN

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910 thoughts on “Gym Leader Showdown: Unova”

  1. If it had been Cilan, Chili, OR Cress I would’ve voted for Chili, but because I dislike the other two I voted for Marlon.

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  2. I honestly forgot about Marlons existence, tough choice for me between lenora, Iris or Roxie but imma say Iris because she’s my fav female companion that ash traveled with, she called him out when he was being an idiot, which is always

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  3. I’m gonna repost here what I said but is on the other page and it is

    What Pokemon do you think should get an Alolan form? Mine are

    Primeape-Fighting/???
    To make it in tune with the Jungle like Mankey’s are!

    Seel/Dewgong-Water or Water/Fire
    After currents moved them to Alola they had to shed their need of cold water and went for tropical waters as Fire types

    Clefairy/Clefable- Fire/Fairy
    Maybe instead of praising the Moon they praise the sun (exclusive to sun version)

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    • I would like to see Staryu/ Starmie get an Alola form, but the typing switches to Water/Ground with the ability Regenerator. The change is it gains camouflage abilities and builds up better defensive qualities so that it is better protected from the Alola predators in the water. Where it gains better defense, it loses speed as a result.

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    • Farfetch’d could become Ground/Fighting. It doesn’t look like much of a flyer and it already has a grass sword.

      Ekans and Arbok could become dark-type snakes.

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  4. Had to vote Elesa. She can be one of the more difficult gym leaders from Unova, especially on challenge mode and without a ground type (probably the greatest gym battle I’ve ever had, only won because I stalled out a leech seed.) So I have mass respect for her and I also just like the presence she gives off. It’s not superiority, but confidence. Her design is nice too and I also appreciate how she helped out Bianca. It’s unfortunate that she’s one of the “sexy” gym leaders of this region though, and people will look past her other good qualities when voting.

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      • I actually like how you’re doing it now with the gym leaders. Maybe the Champs can be it’s own entity throughout all the generations. Maybe do a final pick between all the voted winners for a grand champion?

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      • Quick summary: Best Wishes was very cringeworthy, but they got rid of most of the staff who worked on it, and replaced them with the core team from Guilty Crown, which in turn makes the XY anime more story and character focused, rather than boring us to hell with filler episodes (like a handful of them in the entire XY and XYZ arc)

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        • BW was horrible, and that makes me skeptical to watch this. I’ll just read the synopsis, and if he wins I’ll watch.

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          • Fair enough. But as I said, XY has almost no filler episodes and its very much focused on story and character development. Like Ash has really grown as a trainer ánd a person

          • XY and Z has been a good series so far, I can guarantee it’s better, some of the battles are really good. I would recommend to watch it in English Sub because it sounds better.

          • XYZ animation have set a new standard for future anime series imho. Its just incredible.

    • I have actually started watching it since the beginning of XY and Z because Zygarde ties into the story, so I went ahead and watched it. I gotta say, XY and Z is pretty good, way better than the torturous BW saga which made me stop watching the series till now.

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      • I non-stop watched the anime till Sinnoh. Then I suddenly just lost interest and didn’t watched B/W at first. I got back into it because I enjoyed the gen 5 games and I just assumed the anime would be equally good. I did finish the whole of Best Wishes, but it is something I’m still trying to forget, it was so incredibly bad lol

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          • Lol ikr? Even Ash’s team (bar Krookodile) was just fucking pathetic. There’s 1 episode in the entire B/W series I genuinely enjoy and thats the Charizard v Dragonite battle.

          • Ash’s team sucked ass. Most of them weren’t even fully evolved, save for Leavanny, Krookodile, and Unfezant. In the past they made us care about his team, like Charizard, Infernape, and Gliscor, while in BW most of them were bland and didn’t even had backstory, they were just there for Ash to use. Tepig’s backstory was pathetic because it was essentially Charizard’s backstory all over again, and then they just dropped Tepig’s story after he evolved for some reason. Only one on his team I liked was Oshawott, he was fine. And it was so stupid that Ash’s Pikachu, the one who defeated Tobias’s Latios, gets knocked out by a level 5 Snivy a few episodes later and a newly evolved Lucario in the League. At least he has Ash-Greninja now.

  5. This is a toughy lol I’m torn between Elesa, The three brothers, Cheren, Roxie, and Marlon hahaha I can’t choose!!

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  6. I gotta say it is hard to choose because of how great the character development was in gen V but i have to go with Marlon, there is something about his laid-back personality that makes him stand out from the rest

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  7. Hey I had this idea yesterday and didn’t want today it until next day’s discussion, but what if after we beat the SM game, we could host a Pokejungle competition (since we can host our own competitions now) where we can only use the team we used in game. The competition could be held after 2 months of the game’s release.

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  8. Now this is the one I’ve been waiting for
    It was during my battle with Clay is when my Drilbur evolved,
    Blow after blow each of our Pokemon fell, but it finally was down to the main event Drilbur versus Excadrill
    Drilbur was clearly outmatched by every one of Excadrill’s attacks, whatever Drilbur did Clay’s Excadrill did better, things began to look grim as a powerful Metal Claw sent Drilbur flying and crashed into the wall
    After a insulting show of words I decided to throw the match, but as I tried to recall Drilbur he was nowhere to be found; befuddled the room began to shake the ground started to crack open, blinding white light escaped from the fissures, the tremors got even more violently until Drilbur bursted out in evolution!
    Now standing before me was my very own Excadrill, a look of determination was painted on his face knowing he still had something to prove! The two duked it out without nary a response from their trainers, With Excadrill’s moves being enhanced he finally perfected Rock Slide which buried Clay’s Excadrill allowing him to land the finishing blow
    Earning me the Quake Badge

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  9. Off of some comments below about the show who is your favorite companion of Ash’s and who’s your least mines gotta be Brock or Serena for favorite and I hate Iris with a passion a close second is the fruit Cilan though

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  10. My vote goes to Elisa, she’s really cool and helped Bianca with her dad, having one of the better little gym stories in Unova.

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  11. How I miss the Black and White / Black 2 and White 2 games / eras. My vote will have to go to Elesa due to several reasons: I chose Oshawott as my starter and due to my hatred for Ground-types, did not catch any Ground-types and that little, pesky flying squirrel called Emolga Volt Switched me to death. She, along with Lenora remain the only gym leaders in Black and White I had to re-battle. However, I grinded my Swadloon to the bitter ends and she eventually became a Leavanny and battled the trainers to the east of Nimbasa City and evolved my Dewott into a Samurott. Additionally Elesa has one of the best gym designs and puzzles ever! If they ever include gyms in the Pokemon Park, her gym should be No. 1 in the priority list, Lastly, her overall design, character, and gauntlet for the trainer were all great aspects of what truly made her stand out.

    Honorable Mentions: Iris, Cheren, Lenora, and Drayden because he gives off daddy vibes.

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  12. Didn’t know that Skyla’s bit of Trivia is that she’s also a Sinnoh gym leader, haha
    I enjoyed Gen V as a whole, the plot was really involving of the gym leaders and they actually had a role which was nice. None of them caused me problems however, even on the hard mode of the game

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    • I remember every friggin lyric to the first opening and that damn chorus, “It’s not always black and white” -_- It’s like my guilty pleasure song.

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        • I hated that stupid Axew SO MUCH 🙁 I couldn’t stand it when they tried and failed to make it cute with that horrible voice….

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        • I like it up to the first Don Battle Tournament. I thought it was a cool idea and would allow them to throw in more official battles and reduce the number of fillers.
          Boy was I wrong, not only did they not do them enough, some of the later ones limited Ash to only use 1-3 Pokemon….when he was rotating around 8-9 Pokemon.

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          • Team Plasma could have been really cool. I remember that double episode they were supposed to have in Castalia which essentially got cancelled because of an incident. It went to complete shit after that.

        • I didn’t have a problem with that. I enjoyed the fact that they tried doing something different. Ash catching more than 6 Pokemon, darker team rocket, don battle tournaments, Ash actually training his Pokemon …. But then they just reversed everything and I never understood why.

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          • Feels as though the writers have a coherent plot and idea of what they want to do up until the 2nd gym and then everything is rushed and written in a few hours or so. Good thing the XY plot and characters have been handled much better.

          • This is exactly how I feel. It felt it was going somewhere up until the Lenora battle, then it just sort of…stopped

    • Its thanks to Best Wishes that a lot of people lost faith in the anime. Which a real pity, because they have redeemed themselves with XY and XYZ.

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      • Can confirm, I used to watch the anime religiously. I stopped around when Ash battled Skyla, and only watched a few here and there afterwards.

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        • I fully watched the Best Wishes series, because I am the kind of person who finishes something, even though its really bad. And yes it was dogshit, but as I said they redeemed themselves with the Kalos arcs. Also a interesting sidenote is that they replaced the team that worked on Best Wishes, so none of those writers are still present.

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        • Ugh, that battle was so stupid, when I watched the show I actually skipped the Gym battles and tournaments because they were super boring…. Unlike X and Y where battles are all dynamic and exciting!

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  13. On the basis of listing favorites, what are your favorite villainous teams? Mine would have to solely be Team Plasma. Ghetsis, the mastermind behind Plasma was a genius, utilizing the love of Pokemon to meet his own twisted agenda and even going so far as to use his own adopted son to create a world in his favor. The idea of liberating Pokemon from their owners because they’re merely, “used as slaves” is the darkest theme Pokemon has ever dabbled with and it was done so delicately, with great finesse, care, and love and in a way that was not preachy. The Team Plasma grunts had back stories, they told the player why they joined the cause and weren’t just mindless puppets because no matter how influenced they were by Ghetsis, they still had a fiber of their own will to command their actions and opinions. N was a tragic anti-hero fitting of a Shakespearian play. His desires and then his realizations all played out on the great stage created by the man he thought loved him, but was simply his puppeteer. Although there were many plot holes and aspects that could have been fixed or drawn out to make more sense, Team Plasma were really well fleshed out and developed, so much so that they gain the title of best villainous team in my books. Admit it, you had goosebumps when Ghetsis first appeared and preached to the audience of Accumula Town.

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    • Probably gonna have to agree with Team Plasma. They are the only bad guys we as the player could actually root for. That’s what makes a great villain in my opinion.

      Nostalgia vote goes to Emerald Team Magma :p

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    • Team Plasma no contest, for most of the same reasons as you so I won’t repeat. Second place for me would be Magma in ORAS.

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    • A tie between Team Rocket and Team Plasma. Team rocket because they weren’t going after any legendaries or anything, they were just criminals and thieves, and were quite memorable in my opinion. Team Plasma because you could be sympathetic with their goals, as they only want to do what was right for Pokemon.

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  14. Since we are talking about Unova, what was your Pokemon team in BW and BW2?
    Mine was:
    (Black)
    Emboar
    Mandibuzz
    Galvantula
    Stoutland
    Simisage
    Golurk

    (Black 2)
    Samurott
    Ampharos
    Unfezant
    Magmortar
    Haxorus
    Leavanny

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  15. hm I was thinking Ash wins the Kalos Leauge and wins a trip to Alola, Seeing the tribal challenge and decides to take it. seeing how mallow might be the new companion maybe this could be a first for the series, Serena joining Ash in Alola giving the anime the first 1 boy 2 girl group.

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    • I have HIGH hopes for Mallow; strong female lead that helps Ash perfect his battling skills and is a blend of in-game Iris and anime Misty. She is a much more proficient (Ash is like a good singer who doesn’t always hit the notes perfectly, but when they’re on fire, they surprise you with their potential) battler and at first only acts as a tourist guide for Ash, but due to the villainous team and her wanting to stop them / act like a spy, joins Ash. I actually want to start writing a Sun/Moon fanfiction.

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      • Mallow and Lillie could also work, Mallow being the new broke/Misty and Lillie being like the smarty pants of pokemon

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  16. I voted Drayden! Even though I am meh on this one.
    I find Elesa 2.0 very hot but that is it.

    No one really challenged me in the region. Really poorest region gymleader wise.

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  17. By the way do we get to do an E4 poll after this. And then the Champ one.

    Champion is obviously between Steven and Cynthia.

    But E4 will be good. Flint in probably my all time favourite.

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          • None of them can match its speed. He has really slow pokemon. None of his pokemon even have a type advantage either. Aggron has dragonclaw, but would die from earthquake. It has sturdy, but couldn’t OHKO her Garchomp. She’d probs switch to Milotic anyway

          • Garchomp can be walled by Skarmory, Claydol or Craydily depending on the move set. Garchomp Is strong but it needs more than 4 moves to truly beat Stevens entire team.

            I dunno if we are referring to in-game movesets or not, but Claydol learns Ice Beam and Aggron learns Ice Punch.
            Mega Metagross is also faster and learns Ice Punch. Lives an EQ and Fire Blast from full health.

            Craydily walls Milotic. Skarmory takes Roserade without HP Fire, otherwise again Craydily. The only real issue is Spritomb with Will-o-Wisp

            Again I don’t know the in-game movesets. Just theorymonnong here. Depends on a number if factors but it’s a battle I want to watch In the anime

          • Yeah I was going off of movesets that they both use in game 😛 Garchomp probably couldn’t sweep all of them, but I guess it really ends up as who gets lucky with type matchups. I think if they battled in real life, Cynthia would have the advantage due to type coverage though 😛

          • In game I would probably agree. But the anime ignores type coverage for the most part. (See Hawlucha vs Slaking and Medicham vs Snorlax for the most extreme examples). It would just be an epic anime battle to witness. Cynthia might edge it, but keep in mind Stevens Mega Metagross takes Flare Blitz from Mega Charizard X and shrugs it off.

          • I guess it would also depend if Cynthia would use Mega Garchomp…and whether or not that’d be a good or bad choice.

        • listen, i wont start drama but everytime cynthia and steven battled in the PWT in my game, cynthia won so yeah thats the absolute proof

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        • He’s lame with his dumb Onix. I’d probably vote Seibold or maybe Malva. I like his character design a lot, and Malva’s side story. Karen is nice too, but I don’t like her team unless its her rematch one.

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  18. I have the hardest time telling the difference between Chaos and Ultron because I think of them as the same person. I honestly am confuzzled at this point. And here I thought I had everyone at gun-point (metaphorically).

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    • I don’t really speak German that much but as far as I can understand, the translation team sent this guy the list of names to localise them and give them German names. They also said that they’ll attach some pictures to make giving new names easier. It seems weird but still hoping for it to be true…

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        • Yeah, I’m starting to doubt the credibility for the exact same reason. I was like 50-50 without this mail, but after leaking the names, why the heck wouldn’t they also leak if not all, but some of the pics as well? I really want this dex to be true, because I’ve been waiting for the Guardrake line for like 6 years now but well… I’m not sure anymore.

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        • Checked if the address exists or not but it doesn’t so this picture at least is definitely fake. Doesn’t deconfirm the whole list but this mail is definitely not real.

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    • Yeah, someone broght them up back in the other page discussing the leaks. There were 3 more having the rest of the alola Pokedex. He said he found it on Reddit and 4Chan but they got taken down real quick. It has the english names and the german locilizations of the already announced Pokemon. It also said something about 3 attatcments, presumably about the news Friday. Don’t know see how this takes away credit from the leaks. Quite the opposite, I say

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  19. So I was punching the numbers and trying to find the best form of each Pokemon that is said to have multiple Pokemon according to the leaks. What I’ve concluded is that Rowlet’s best form is it’s Grass/Electric, Litten’s Fire/Dark form, Popplio’s Water form (or water/fairy if you think the extra resistances and new immunity outweighs the extra weakness), Delfin’s Water/Dragon form and Rockruff’s… Well all his forms’s typings are kinda horrible 😛 and the Fabled Breed Cat’s best form will be it’s normal/ghost form as I have said before (it’s one of the best type combos possible).

    This is all from a typing stand point, based on the number of weaknesses each of the form’s type combo has.

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    • As I understand it you are only taking into account defensive capabilities, What about offensive presence.

      And also the fact that its better to resist/be immune to common attacking types such as Ground/Fighting/Fire than Posion or Grass for example.

      Just a couple more things to take into account.

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  20. Does anyone else think that future CoroCoros are just going to cover the remaining islands? I don’t know what they mean by the “Southern Island”, but I’m assuming it’s either Ula Ula or Poni Island. Honestly, it depends on where you think north is. We got three more months (excluding this months CoroCoro) of info, so it makes a lot of sense to just give a guide of each island, excluding the man-made one.

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  21. Earthen is finally home!!!
    Five whole nights camping in New Hampshire
    And during that long ass car ride, I ev trained and leveled a whomping 12 Pokemon

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  22. So this poll really made me think about the Unova region in general. To be honest, 5th generation was just a mess overall. For me, personally, there’s no sense of cohesiveness in the region. It’s as if they threw random elements together and made a region. And the Pokemon designs… I mean there’s plenty of competitively viable Pokemon that were introduced but I’m not fond of many of the designs, again it’s just too random and not cohesive at all. And don’t even get me started on the abomination that is the BW anime series.

    Alola is getting Pokemon back on track imo. Everything feels cohesive up to this point, region wise, design wise, etc.

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        • Yea but before it came out. it was like how sun and moon was, hype does affect culture. so i wouldnt say anything about sun and moon till it comes out

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          • Couldn’t’ve said it better myself. Before XY I was more hyped than I am for sun and moon, and it was a resounding “meh” for me. That’s why, while I’m excited, I’m not making any judgement like “sun and moon will put the series back on track” or “they’ll be the best games ever”. Still holding out for difficulty options (please GF PLEASE).

          • yea we can dream. honestly im minority but the hype culture for ORAS was over the top that it killed it for me. I thought the games were ok. not bad not good

          • I feel like maybe the reason I’m not as hyped for SM, even though I really want to play them, is because I was too hyped to XY and ORAS, and they let me down a bit.

          • Yeah before XY came out everyone loved the pokemon designs now I see hate towards them and Im just like, ok then? Meanwhile I see the good in every pokemon design and cant think of a single one that I actually really hate, I also get really upset when people call GF lazy for making certain pokemon a certain why because it just makes them seem entitled to what they want, when tbh pokemon doesn’t have to give us anything they could end the series tmrw if they really wanted to, so I like to stay grateful for what we have and even more so for what we get.

          • honestly the pokemon designs most people hate are usually the bizarre most creative ones, if u look at them at them a bit harder

          • Ive always said there’s not a Pokemon design I hate, or can call lazy. There are simply ones I prefer over others. I still think Aegislash is one of the all time best designs/concepts GF has come up with.

          • see thats the kinda positivity I like to hear about, until recently I wasn’t overly fond of Mr. Mime, it was the one pokemon I kinda looked at and was like, ew, but I forced myself to use it in one play through and now while its not one of my favs I have respect for it. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder after all, so whats not overly awesome for one person could be the best thing ever for another, and I think gf knows what they are doing. 🙂

          • For me, it was the Zubat line. I never cared for them, but I decided to use one during one HGSS playthrough and now I Love Crobat, it put in work and I grew to appreciate the designs of all three 🙂 I learned from that experience that I should probably try some more Pokemon I am not entirely fond of

          • Honestly I can’t find it in myself to shit on something that someone else likes, even if I’m not too fond of it. The same goes for other things like movies, e.t.c. To each their own.

    • I actually liked a lot of the Gen 5 designs. Scrafty, Excadrill and Volcarona are amongst some if my all time favourite. Other than the starters Gen 5 had some pretty good Pokemon designs ( I even think the likes of Vanilluxe and Garbodour are decent).

      Gen 6 was a lot worse than Gen 5, even ORAS couldn’t make up for the mess that Gen 6 is.

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      • Gym leader designs, Pokemon designs, region design, overall “feel” of the game. For example, Hoenn was very tropical all around and that showed in most aspects of the game, Sinnoh was very mountainous and cold and I think the native Pokemon all blended well.

        Unova on the other hand, is a geographical disaster and the Pokemon are all so random .

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  23. I’m gonna be in a minority, judging by the early votes, but my favorite was Roxie. I loved her personality and I loved her relationship with her dad. She loved him, but could also get upset with him, as in the case with him ignoring his captain duties. She had a temper to her and she really reminds me of myself in both of those ways.
    Although honorable mentions are Elesa, Skyla, and Cheren as Gym Leader (he bothered me in BW, he beamce more tolerable in B2W2 and I loved his redesign <3 )
    (Hoping to be back to commenting normally by tomorrow, I'm on the road back home and I can't be on all the time, I made an exception here since a new gym leader poll was up)

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  24. I really don’t understand all the hate that Unova gets. Sure it had some bad elements to it and yeah it had some bad Pokemon, but it still had a good story and a pretty huge postgame for both BW and BW2

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    • Gen 5 had one of the best stories, evil teams and a good set of Pokemon. The only thing I can fault is the region itself.

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    • I agree. They weren’t the most stellar games, but they weren’t incredibly easy like XY, had an actual post game, and a viable story. Plus the difficulty options were a plus.

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    • People just didn’t see all the good it did
      Fully animated Sprites
      So many good and unique Pokemon
      And so many good items, Rocky Helm, Air Balloon and….Evolite (actually could do without)
      Type Gems
      Team Plasma easily best villain
      Fucking Hidden Abilities that nearly everyone relies on
      Scald……
      Battle Subway
      And many more

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      • Or the bad was enough to outweigh the good.

        – The style of animation used (mostly sprite transformation) paired with a lot of zooming (sprite zooming just does not look good)

        – Scaling EXP meant that your team wasn’t going to be much higher than the wild Pokemon unless you were willing/able to go Audino hunting (which wasn’t always an option)

        – Trainer and Gym Leader levels were generally 4-7 levels above the wild Pokemon and, by extension, your team (lots of time spent either running back to a Pokemon center or money spent on healing items).

        As much good as B/W did for the metagame, Team Plasma didn’t really live up to their potential and some of the mechanical quirks detracted from the fun of the single-player experience. Gen 5 really suffered from trying to break convention while at the same time being somewhat shackled to it. The games weren’t bad by any means, but Unova remains my second least-favorite region (the first being Hoenn) and Gen 5 my least-favorite gen.

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    • the hate is unwarranted, if people don’t like it thats fine, I think we should just love all the pokemon games just in different orders, like I do with pokemon and zelda, they have a ranking in my mind but I don’t need to spread it around or inject it into things all the time so everyone knows my ranking, all the games are great, and without them none of us would be here ^_^

      Also Unova was great 🙂

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    • Gen 5 was amazing! My only issue with it was the region, nothing really special about Unova apart from Castelia City. It’s because of Gen 5 I had such high hope and expections for X/Y.

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        • I guess that’s fair, but Las Vegas also isn’t situated on an ocean. Not to mention Castelia is supposed to be New York basically

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          • oh well idk, I’m not from the US so I don’t really know 100% about what its like, and yeah I know the castlela -NY thing, but idk 😛

      • Yeah as far as I can tell they basically wanted Unova to end up being an amalgam for all of the U.S., from New York to the rainy Northwest to the desert-hot Southwest, I mean the U.S. Is such a massive country with so many ecosystems and cultures within it that they must have had a hard time fitting it all in there together, but like for instance the orange Charizard bridge I think was meant to be the Golden Gate Bridge but the gym leader for the city closest to it looked like a cowboy businessman, so. Also there are big cities in the desert states here, like Phoenix and Las Vegas to start like the previous commenter said. It’s my favorite region and my favorite generation yet because of Cubchoo/ Beartic being my favorite Pokemon ever and Brycen being my favorite gym leader of all time (although I do sometimes wish they made him look a little less… Feminine?) And I haven’t played through X and Y yet ? But I will, been so poor I bought the game and haven’t yet bought a 2DS to play it on but I think I will relatively soon especially with Sun and Moon now coming out.

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        • LOL look at this kid keithiwb trying to delete all his comments where he said “magnets making people fly like Superman and animals with glowing eyes making heat vision possible is more realistic than U.S. government overspending,” something that is actually real, lmfao.

          Why did you delete all your comments, mcnugget? How about you just don’t say stupid things to begin with like that gem up there and “Bvs made $620M profit,” then you won’t have to delete all your comments later when you go back and read them and see how dumb you sound. Lol. Oh don’t worry, if you get this one deleted or try to delete any of your other comments, I can still find you and reply 😀

          Let me guess, you’re gonna delete every comment you’ve ever made so I can’t reply to you anymore? LOL go for it! That would be FUUUUNNNYYY!

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          • Comingsoon.net banned me, idiot. Not gonna get banned from this website, so you know what? Do your worst. Not gonna respond to you at all, in any other websites including this one. Have a nice life, good luck with all your problems, do your very worst.

          • HAHA get banned, little mcnugget. It’s very much deserved. Next time don’t spread false information or say completely dumb sh*t and maybe you won’t get banned.

            Just a thought! 😏

    • I only dislike BW for the lack of Pokemon that I can make a team with. There’s like maybe 6 or 7 pokemon I like from the region that are available to me early.

      I love BW2 because it has the good pokemon from Gen 5 and all the older ones that I love.

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  25. Here’s a question.
    Which Pokemon from other regions would you want to be able to catch in Alola without transferring?
    I think Larvesta would work well.

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  26. I think alolan forms for crogunk and toxicroak could work well, perhaps. Frogs are really great at adapting to their surroundings. I researched this one endangered species of tree frog that adapted to living in city public fountains in central America because water was so scarce and their forests were being cut down.

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    • To the best of my knowledge, Cane Toads were introduced to Australia from Hawaii (I think) and since they were introduced, they thrived and their numbers exploded rapidly. (It was also a joke in the Simpsons episode where Bart has to apologise to the Australian boy over the “which way does the toilet water spin” theory)
      Frogs and Toads are very adaptable, especially those that can thermoregulate!

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      • Ah, yes! The cane toad would make a cool pokemon. Probably poison/dark? Or pure poison. I watched a documentary in one of my classes about them and this one they showed was so HUGE. And Australian people used to friggen keep them as pets! Bad idea, but they didn’t know much better I guess

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        • It would make a pretty cool Pokemon that could literally be a stand alone, really bulky and able to adapt to anything that attacks it. Make it a really annoying Pokemon, like Wobbuffet – which has one gimmick, and if you attack it incorrectly, you’d get punished

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  27. I hope some day they make a game set in a region that mirrors Canada, they could include some pokemon based on some of our creatures from folklore and such, the legendaries could be a Mishepishu (water/dark) and the Thunderbird (Electric/Flying) as they are natural enemies, and the event legend could be a Jackalope. My gosh, a Canadian based game would just be so awesome XD

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  28. I just had a thought… If Minior is Rock/Flying; what possible Flying Moves would it learn?
    I truly only see Acrobatics and Bounce

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    • I could see it spinning really fast to achieve some others and the obvious flying type move “fly”
      but also:
      Mirror Move, Hurricane, sky attack, sky drop(maybe), tailwind, defog, and of course there could be some new flying type moves introduced as well

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      • Ehhh it just honestly doesn’t strike me as very viable as a flying type
        It’ll probably just learn like 2 attacks tops and they won’t be even good for it
        A
        Just a slightly better Carbink

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        • Minior is going to be weak to 5 types, carbink is only weak to 4, even if one of them is a 4x weakness, so like… its not going to be a better carbink? what are you talking about…

          Anywho, Miniors primary type is flying so most of its moves will obviously go towards that type so I’m seeing a lot of rock and ground, but like I said, it could learn some new flying moves if their is any

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          • You do realize it’s Rock/Flying right? Flying/Rock is just absurd
            And i believe they gave it Flying since they couldn’t give it levitate since they want to milk it’s Shields Down ability

            But I’m confident that it will learn very little to no actual Flying moves since this Pokemon is actually a first, a Flying type that isn’t a winged creature, and the Flying Type is practically a Bird Type but since not everything with wings are birds but trailing off, I don’t expect it to get anything like Hurricane or Brave Bird

          • I’m 100% aware that its rock/flying? I made a typo in my comment I meant to say its primary type is rock, which I why I immediately followed that by saying most of its moves will probably be rock and ground. Also you do realize that not everything needs to have wings to fly correct?

          • Hmm, gyarados (at least I doubt it can fly using it’s fins), the hoppip line, rayquaza, the drifloon line, fan rotom, and the kami trio in their incarnate form… That’s a decent bunch actually!

          • Fair enough but truthfully they hardly learn any Flying Type attacks (minus Rayquaza) naturally which is the root of this whole thing
            Gyarados only bounce
            Hoppip only gust and acrobatics
            Drifblim only gust
            Fan Rotom only Air Slash but hardly counts since the whole form thing
            And only Tornadus learns any Flying Moves naturally the rest Jack squat

            So its fair to say Minior’s flying type move depot will be very minimal

          • Yeah, that’s completely fair, based on evidence, it’s likely minior won’t have a very usable flying move palette. You never know, they might surprise us, but you’re probably right on this one!

          • you’re kidding right? just because we don’t have many doesn’t mean that we cant have this one, my god earthen its like you’re incapable of thinking outside the confines of you’re clunky little box, open your mind, clearly you don’t read any great works of fiction, science fiction or fantasy, what a bore.

  29. I don’t like the implication that Marlin is actually just white and his tan makes him look african american. I also this post reminds me of how much these gym leaders fucking suck. By the 8th gym, I want to be doing a full 6 on 6 battle not battle three halfway evolved Pokemon, most of which can be taken out in one hit. They really dropped the ball gym wise this time around. Especially since at this point every type has been used a gym at one or another so the formula really felt tired at this point.

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  30. Unova had the best music and best gym leaders (and gym designs).

    Elesa is “cool” in every sense. She is cold, distant, and knows she is the shit. Definitely my favorite gym leader of any generation.

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  31. I really hope that pokemon list is real. It has some super sweet new type combos. Bug/dark and Dark/Electric are all I’ve ever wanted.

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  32. I’m going to be in the minority but I voted for Clay. I liked how he was involved in the story for both BW/B2W2. He fought against Team Plasma in BW and was leading the other gym leaders at N’s castle. Yet in B2W2 he was still willing to let some of Team Plasma makes amends. Also he gaves us the PWT.

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  33. Y’know, Minior is quickly becoming a favorite of mine. With how much mind-blowing news we got in the last trailer, I feel like Minior was kind of overshadowed. I hope the list is real, because I’d love to see what it can evolve into! If not, I’ll still love it 🙂

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  34. I was hoping that “if” the leaked list the Grass/Fire Pokemon would be a Tiki. But from the sound of the name, it sounds like it’ll be based on a Pepper. 🙁 I have to admit, some of the Pokemon on the list are uncreative from the sounds of their names or creatures/concepts we head before or are too complex. I don’t like the idea of a dolphin that evolves into different type for each of the Islands.

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  35. I do wish they made up for their portrayal of their only Black Gym Leader.. . Lenora… By making one of the island leaders or whatever Black and more modern looking. To “correct” this in BW2 they replaced her all together.

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  36. There are several Pokemon on the leaked potential list I don’t understand are based off. Most of these just sound weird and/or unoriginal.

    1.) The Cosmot family (Dark/Electric)
    2.) Hydratom, Posatom, Negatom
    3.) Pesp/Peskool Family
    4.) Scruluse/Structor (Steel)
    5.) Fiddlob/Calcua (Steel/Water)
    6.) Cumbersum/Anenemie (I know Cumbersum is the Cucumber but what about the possible second Evolution)
    7.) Cubbage, Meritote, Stalute (Fighting, Fighting, Fighting/Steel)

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  37. I’m still so dissapointed by the lack of Fire types… With a freaking Fire Themed Volcano Island.. ??
    I wanted my Only Alolan Form to be Growlithe
    Team:
    Togetic
    Robinroot
    Growlithe
    Posatom . .. I suppose.

    Quasar and criptic the ice fighting interest me

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  38. Alright Earthen is finally going to sleep in his own bed for the first time in a week
    If you have anything to say to mah face say it now

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    • Well. I was watching it but my parents wanted to change the channel…. *Sigh* I guess I’ll watch it tomorrow morning when there’s no one else home…

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  39. Ayo I just had this idea for a new cash grab EXP Pokemon
    What about a Normal/Steel Piggy Bank Pokemon, they use their powerful sense of smell to search for iron ores, during the process they often discover gold deposits, after years of finding riches many claim this Pokemon brings good luck

    They would have a massively high exp yield and they either come with Pickup and Illuminate

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  40. Suppose were getting leaks tomorrow of corocoro, anyone know what time they might be coming out for central us? I don’t want to be checking every hour at work in order to fuel my pokemon obsessed life.

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  41. well guys let’s get the Majora’s Mask meme in place,because tomorrow’s going to be the three days until the new info on Pokemon Sun and Moon. 🙂

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