Sugimori Blocking Fans Who Tweet “Leaked” Starter Evolutions?

sugimori-blockReports have come in of Twitter users being blocked by Ken Sugimori, the art director of the Pokémon franchise, for inquiring about or sending pictures of the previously covered starter evolutions. Although there is absolutely no confirmation that these starter evolutions have any legitimacy, it is interesting that he’d go so far as to block people if they were fake or fan creations. I’d also like to take a moment to ask you not to tweet at him because doing so is going to have no positive outcome for you or our community.

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1,021 thoughts on “Sugimori Blocking Fans Who Tweet “Leaked” Starter Evolutions?”

    • I only can imagine the popplio evo being real if there is another male version of the final one…. IDK, just don’t see it, don’t get it if this is the real evo of popplio.

      I do agree though.. Litten’s is the worst

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      • lol remember that there are a ton of pokemon that dont make sense with gender, mr. mime, mime. jr, Delphox had a feminine design i believe, etc.

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        • Yeah, those aren’t starters. Starters are mostly gender neutral, or at least they try them to be. Yeah I agree with Delphox, but even she ‘s a lot more butch xD

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          • No? Guess I missed that one haha. I do know that I was very dissapointed with the evo’s of fennekin though

  1. Ahh, I saw this. The people asking him were being pretty aggressive about the leaks. The blocks were justified, and probably don’t prove anything that they’re real. (although i do think they’re real lol)

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  2. If they’re real could there be a full reverse type matchup?

    Grass/Flying, Fire/Fighting, Water/Ice would be an interesting combo:

    Grass < Fire < Water Fight > Ice > Flying

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  3. Am I the only one, who’s more upset that we would have already known about the final evolutions if this is real.

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  4. Well if these are real, then personally I think they’ll be called Poppliren for Popplio’s one, Archowl for Rowlet’s one and Tigrember for Litten’s.

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  5. Let’s hope not. It would be the 3rd gen in a row that the starters are hideous. And these in particular are probably the worst, especially the water one, that is inadmissible as a starter.

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  6. If anyone annoyed me with the same questions and stuff i would block them, doesnt mean im trying to hide or deny anything. I think these people are imature, cant they wait for the reveal in its own time. The waiting isnt so bad. I get very excited when they reveal something unannounced.

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  7. At this point, I’d actually be disappointed if these were fake. Especially Rowlet and Popplio’s final evos. They’re pretty good imho (Well, most of them are). An archer owl? COOL. A siren/seal hybrid with a dynamic hairstyle? ELEGANT. That Litten evo can go straight to the shitter tho.

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    • Me too, litten’s final evo is my personal favorite, rowlet’s final evo is creative and popplio’s evo is a lot more interesting than a simple clown seal.

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  8. If real, the typing are OBVIOUSLY Grass/Flying and Water/Fairy for Rowlett and Popplio (where the hell are people getting Psychic and Ice from?!).

    Now Litten is a little more debatable…could be either Fighting or Dark. After all, he’s based on Tiger Mask, a wrestler who uses sneaky, dishonourable and underhand fighting techniques…

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  9. I’m happy, I actually like these. Can’t decide which is my fave between Rowlet and Popplio. The only one I’m not feeling very much is Litten evo, dislike it’s bipedal. Which is shame cuz I really like Litten, probably cuz I really like cats ??

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  10. I hate that this further proves these are real! Ughh stop with the themes! Why an archer? Why a wrestler? I guess Popplio’s is fine even if it does look like it went through a sexchange because Popplio doesnt look feminine at all.
    Maybe in time I’ll like these but rn they are not being “simplistic” designs they said they would do. What ever happened to making the finals look like just badass bigger versions of the starters? Gens 1-3/1-4 did it right

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    • Well who’s to say our take is what they should be
      When people speculate on Pokemon half the time people want them to turn into, but Gamefreak designs them on how THEY turn out (Except Samurott that is the only clear exception)
      And to be fair Rowlet could’ve been heading toward this from the very start with the Row maybe from Arrow or Bow and the use of quils and everyone freaking knows all Fire Type starters are bipedal they’ve been ending up that way for 20 years

      The only thing making me cling to hope that these aren’t real is those debunked images from the Japanese Sites, otherwise I sense the Pokemon Aura from these guys loud and clear

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      • Look Im not arguing whether or not these are fake. You could be right with the Row-arrow thing. Im just saying I dont like themed pokemon. These are supposed to be monster versions of animals. Why would they imitate human titles like witch, ninja, archer, wrestler??

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        • Well because sometimes people want a theme
          A big monstery owl, some run of the mill tiger and a smelly fish women
          I happen to greatly enjoy the Archer design and I’m quite honestly in love with the Wrestling Tiger
          But my crusty blackened heart is crushed at the thought Popplio could be that thing after all the time I spent liking it

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  11. The question is whether they were were simply blocked for showing him the leaked pics or whether the blocks are from them harassing him about them. It’s possible they could have sent him the pics enough times that he just got annoyed and decided enough was enough. If that’s the case then this whole thing means nothing and the leaks are still up in the air. If it’s the former then we could be seeing our first real confirmation that they ARE in fact the real evolutions. Which I have no problems with lol

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  12. I know this is real since it 1st leak on 5 jun 2016 . This is just 25 days after Rowlet,Litten,Popplio official reveal on 5 may 2016 . There is no way Fake artist can design this in just 25 days with this high quality design . Even Gamefreak designer use 3-4 month to design 1 starter Pokemon . You will never see a fan-art with this perfect design .This design is really great and better than Charizard,Samurott,Greninja,Delphox .

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  13. I really don’t understand all the hate for them. They look more unique then the disaster starters that came from gen 5 and look better then chesnaught and Delphox. They said Litten’s final would be Fire/Dark which is fine as long as it’s not another Fire/Fighting type. People complain that they never change it up in Pokemon then complain when they do. They’re unique and interesting ideas

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    • Well I can’t say I agree completely with you about the other starters I DO agree with you that these designs are pretty good. All three are unique and regardless of “simplicity” or “complexity” the designs are solid. I think my only fear is Litten’s evo becoming part fighting type. I’d love it if it was dark…..or really anything else, but the pics don’t tell us so it’s up to what we DO see and it’s pretty telling……*sigh* I really hope it’s not another fighting type…..It’s not a bad typing, it’s just boring lol

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    • Litten’s final evolution is not even that bad. I think its because it looks like the typical fire/fighting that’s the issue people have with it.

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  14. To be honest, I’d be glad if these were real. They’re certainly a lot better in my opinion than the horrible evolutions of the last 2 generations. None of them are bland like Delphox. None of them drastically get a new weird theme ( tongue scarf) like Greninja or Samurrot. There’s clear progression and coherence between the first and the last stage. Yes it’s annoying that for some reason all fire types look the same, but maybe it’s just like the Chinese Calendar thing rule for fire starters… If it was on four legs everything would be okay ! Do the POKEMON company know the fans really want a quadruped fire starter? Maybe for next time we send them a million emails…

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  15. At this point there are so many hints to them being real, I think they likely are. Which I wouldn’t mind, the Rowlet one looks great.

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  16. My question is why they would even be available for someone to leak this early. This was right before E4 if I recall, and they look similar to noivern’s art which was revealed there if I’m correct. These weren’t revealed there however.

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  17. I am only a fan of Rowlet’s supposed final evolved form, but I wouldn’t mind if it were fake. I can’t stand Litten’s supposed final evolved form because I definitely want it to be a blazing quadrupedal BEAST and not our 4TH Fire/Fghting-type starter Pokémon. Popplio’s supposed final evolved form looks elegant, but is even more feminine than Meganium! At least Meganium can somewhat pass as male, but that thing? Unless there is a huge male difference, it’s a PokéTrap.
    I’m also bothered that if these designs do turn out to be real, they were leaked waaay too early.

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  18. Alright all Umbreon need to fucking die, some asshole just stalled and somehow killed 4 of my team just by poison ITS SO INFURIATING

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  19. If real, Rowlets evo would be the best design since Serperior. Littens, as I’ve stated many times before, is hideous and really unimaginative when compared to past fire starters. Popplios is…alright. I don’t like popplio as it is now so this doesn’t really change my opinion on it that much.

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  20. The only thing I hate about those designs is kittens evos hands. They’re huge and out of place from the rest of his body

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  21. If these are real I’m choosing Popplio. I’m not so superficial that I have to have a masculine/neutral starter. I merely appreciate the lore and LOVE the design they matched with it.

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          • But that doesn’t automatically make you gay. Masculinity and femininity are social constructs. Some people can see past that and just like what they want

          • and? theres nothing wrong with being gay, honestly on average gay males are stronger than straight ones because of how much more shit they have to deal with in life, so I guess that means Popplio is gunna be a bad ass mf then eh 😉

          • Look I’m not trying to start something, some gays either are overly feminine or they ain’t
            Tolerance and stereotypes often clash hard

          • Some gays either are overly feminie or they ain’t? So by that logic you probably believe that all women are either virgins or whores. You probably believe that all Asians are either computer nerds or karate masters, and all blacks are either sports players or rappers. Earthen, HONEY, stick to playing Pokemon and keep your thoughts to yourself the next time you want to discuss something I’m sure you have no personal experience with. Several seats for you please. Goodbye.

          • But there’s a higher ratio of feminine gays than feminine straights. I’m gay and I don’t like girly traits on a guy. I mean, if I choose a popplio I’ll just get a female one

          • ugh, you’re the problem with the gay community then, we already deal with homophobia, we don’t need to be homophobic to our fellow gays as well, be kind to our feminine gays, they pretty much paved the way for us in terms of rights movement

          • I don’t treat them differently, I just don’t find them sexy, that’s all. Overly masculine guys are not sexy either.

          • fair enough, I apologize then, so often when someone says they don’t like feminine guys in the community they often bash them and say they give us a bad name, and that just doesn’t fly with me

          • I have very feminine friends with whom I use “gay internet lingo” and watch drag queen shows (sometimes haha) but I just can’t get attracted to a “girly” guy. I come from a country with a very strong macho culture so I guess that might explain why I’m not attracted to them. I’d never bash anyone though, I know how it feels to be a victim of homophobia.

          • idk, I wish I got to choose who I fall for but its usually just my heart saying “oh look, pretty, now you’re going to not be able to stop thinking about them until you die in a pool of your own tears and heartbreak” but I guess the guys I fall for are usually seen as more feminine, but whatever 😛

          • I don’t think an argument on romantic attraction and social justice really belongs here. Believe me, I’m all for social justice, but as a great man once said, “There’s a time and place for everything, but not now!”

          • I think it stopped being an argument a few comments ago, or at least on my part, idk about Leo but I think we’re both on the same page now

          • Alright, then. I hate to mini-mod, but this wasn’t the place for that subject; I guess I jumped in too late though. :p Glad everything’s worked out.

          • Haha, I don’t choose either but they’re most of the time “masculine but not too much”. I’m fairly shy and I hate to call attention to myself. I haven’t fallen for anyone in ages though and I don’t expect to any time soon. “Heaven is a place on earth with you, tell me all the things you wanna do. I heard that you like the bad girls honey, is that true? It’s better than I ever even knew, they say that the world was built for two. Only worth living if somebody is loving you, and baby now you do” (my love goals haha)

          • He didn’t say that gem guys were bad. He said they don’t fit his preferences. Witch is perfectly fine and politically correct.

          • Well yeah there’s a correlation. And I’m not a social psychologist or anything like that, but I’d probably attribute it to how each sex is typically raised in society, although I really have no idea

          • people love to throw that “Social constructs” line around when talking about gender and sex, but it’s only partially true.

          • Well yes, that’s certainly true. I was mainly referring to what peoples ideas of girly/manly or whatever are.

        • There are PLENTY of feminine MALE’s in the animal kingdom.
          As I said on another article, just look at 90% of the male’s of the animal species, all the males look all impressive, and have beautiful colors, while the females are all drab, and boring in their appearance. LOL

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    • You are my favourite person right now XD lol I love Popplio’s final too, its beautiful, but the shade in your comment just made my week

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    • LOL I’m getting all three, and doing the whole “Robin Hood” theme with there nicknames. 😀 (I can not resist. XD)

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    • Nobody ever said starters have to be masculine or neutral. Frankly the fact it looked feminine had never crossed my mind. It’s not the first ever feminine starter though. Delphox looks feminine, Blaziken looks feminine. Heck, I dare say Meganium looks somewhat feminine.
      Granted none of the water starters do though.
      Ultimately it depends on how you squint though. If I squint hard enough Feraligatr looks feminine.

      If they are legit, it’ll be one of the few times I think a water starter looks reasonable. I’ve only ever chosen a water starter once and I regretted it. It’ll also be the only time I think the fire starter looks bad. I can appreciate wanting another wrestling themed pokemon (as much as I dislike wrestling) but did they have to corrupt the cat starter? I’ve been waiting eons for a cat starter ; n ;

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  22. I kinda feel the Rowlet one doesn’t resemble an owl all that much. It looks more like a falcon or a hawk, especially when you look at the unhooded part.

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  23. That pretty much confirms it at this point. They’re real. He’s angry that his designs or rather, the concept art of designs that other staff turned into him, got leaked. So, therefore, he blocks you. But what about the Chinese leaker? Something in my gut just tells me was like the Gematsu leaker type. Got a few things right then mixed the rest of the info with lies.

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    • Or it could be that with so many people sending those his way, he’s started to get tired of seeing these fake leaks, and so he’s blocked them. It could still go either way- real or fake.

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  24. Its kind of funny, but I JUST now noticed something on Poppleo’s evolutions ref page.
    It looks like words are being formed out of water in the one area, so is this perhaps going to be something that it does in its character animation, or is it going to be part of one of its attacks, LOL or am I just overthinking it. XD But yeah that was something cool that I noticed, and think that it would be awesome if that is what it really turned out to be. Because I now 100% fully believe that these guys are real, and I’m O.K with that, because I really like them, it took me a while with Littens final, but my dislike for it has turned into, tolerable liking. 😀

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  25. I am honestly no longer phased by this kind of news :T I think there is barely a shadow of a doubt that these are real. I guess I’m glad they leaked so early so I have plenty of time to get acclimated to them.

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  26. Fuck they’re probably really real now. Looks like I won’t be using a starter this generation yet again. Maybe I’ll be a female player in Sun and I’ll let her use the mermaid poplio. As for myself though, I will never get behind ANOTHER fire/fighting type and I definitely can’t get behind that awful uncharismatic rowlett evo. The bloody thing has no face. All I wanted was a large, bad ass, grass/flying horned owl and they give us some weird bird in a treyvon Martin hoodie with fucking finger wings that it uses to shoot arrows like fucking Robin Hood. We will have to see the second stages for true confirmation, but unlike all other tumors and leaks, this one just won’t go away and when that happens it must be real. I’m preparing myself for the extreme disappointment.

    Rowlett and litten had so much potential! Whyyy!!! :'(

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          • LOL Yes, yes it is. He’s clearly one of those people who wants a certain type of design, and then when they get it, then they will complain that Nintendo is running out of idea’s because there reusing there designs. 🙂

          • Stilt-owls are extinct owls that actually used to live in Hawaii. If you even heard of the prehistoric/exitct animal theme for grass starters theory, this matches just fine.

          • Sceptile is more than like based off a raptor, Torterra a Meiolania/Ankylosaurus, Chesnaught a glyptodon and so forth.

          • I don’t really dig the Ankylosaurus theory, it’s missing the tail with the mace/spikes thing…

            The others are plausible though.

          • True, I must’ve read over the M-thing because Ankylosaurus was more familiar.

            Though as with Sceptile I could just say it’s based on the more popular and existing animal, heh heh heh.

            Back to Sceptile, it doesn’t seem to have a raptor’s posture, though? In terms of that it seems closer to a… I dunno, meerkat, even?

          • Oh yeah cause they’ve never created more than one of the same kind of Pokemon. Next.

            Google some fan art and then we can talk.

      • Once again, do a simple google search of some fan-made designs for the the final starter evolutions for poplio, litten, and rowlett and then we can have this discussion. I understand it’s easy to think that these leaked evolutions are great when you’ve never seen anything better to compare it to 🙂

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        • You don’t think I’ve ever seen fan art for their evos before? Frankly this is best one I’ve seen. Way more creative than the other fanarts.

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          • Yes, absolutely, most of them are just bigger versions of themselves or, in rowlet’s case, became a giant griffin that looks more like a freaking legendary.

        • I’ll be honest, I’ve seen a lot of fake evolutions of these guys and they’ve been okay but for the most part pretty boring and uninspired as a whole, especially for Litten.

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    • Uh you must be blind, because Rowlets evo DOES have a face, and its design is totally awesome, and its doing the “Robin Hood thing” in case you cant see that. And I believe that Littens Final evo is NOT going to be Fire/Fighting, it is going to be Fire/DARK. And for your 4’11 they still DO have so much potential. 😛 Just because YOU don’t like them doesn’t mean that they are bad or disappointing designs. They are amazing designs. 🙂

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      • Maybe you should do a simple google search of some fan-created final evolutions. Because some of the designs people came up with were IMPECABLE compared to the ones we are discussing here. Afterward, you can have several seats 🙂

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        • I have found many of them, and I’m sorry but these ones are FAR better than a LOT of the ones that I have found.

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    • I wish more people would try new creative stuff to win tounaments. There are tons of people with outside box strategies. Maybe we’ll be surprised with the world tournaments, like the dude with the Pachirisu did.

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      • This year’s VGC is kind of the worst format for creativity, though. There’s only so many ways to build a team when you both have 2 ubers AND have to deal with Dark Void.

        2014 was great for creativity because of the good amount of Pokemon available, plus the only legends that were allowed were the gen 1 birds.

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  27. I did see on a forum that apparently the confidential stamp used on these guys actually matches the one used in the sheets we saw in the Sun and Moon reveal trailer. Easy to fake, for sure. But its an interesting detail that I can’t imagine most people would even think of, especially when the confidential stamp from that Noivern sheet is probably easier to use and more believable to most people who wouldn’t have noticed the stamps in the trailer.

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  28. No basis for this, but what if this is a giant red herring? Like Gamefreak knew fans were getting better at finding leaks, so to throw us off their scent, they picked the most legit fanart and started censoring it. Now we’re so distracted by this fanart that we turned away from the real evo’s… Or it could be the real evolutions, who knows? =P

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      • True, that is the thing I thought about when I proposed my conspiracy theory, but since Ive already called it a “conspiracy theory”, I’ll take it a step farther. THEY PAID THE ARTIST FOR THEIR SILENCE! 8D

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    • I think you give game freak too much credit tbh. I don’t think they would really care enough to set up red herrings and things.

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      • Idk, Gamefreak has seemed like theyve gotten pretty aggressive with keeping things under wraps and surprising gamers lately. I don’t even really think my theory could hold water, I’m just saying I wouldnt personally be surprised.

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  29. I notice people who hates these mention hate for gen 5 starters. Well, my top 3 Final Starter Evolutions would be:

    1. Entermaid (Popp3)
    2. Serperior
    3. Samurott

    People just like to hate on everything, especially leaked pokemon. I remember distinctly everyone HATED the leaked and obviously “fake” Greninja. Except when it turned out to be real everyone love it. If these are real, boycotting the starters just makes you seem like a petty hater. Robbinhoot and Entermaid are stunning designs.

    And, why the fuck can’t we have a feminine final starter? Get over your weird misogyny and irrational queer phobia (that’s girly and therefore gay logic) that motivates your dislike.

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    • I really hope that its name isn’t “Entermaid.” I do NOT want to see the NSFW fan art for that. Also, I think it’s fair to dislike leaked pokemon. Gen 5 and 6 starters have had polarizing designs among the poke community, whether they were leaked or not.

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  30. I’d say that it depends on the tone and style these people addressed it to Ken. I guarantee that they heavily ridiculed the designs; especially Litten’s. Not going to lie, I’ve gotten rather used to these designs. I’m still not a gigantic fan of Tony the Tiger, but I’ll eventually completely warm up to it.
    Anyways, some more positive news; Pokemon Sun/Moon is the most pre-ordered Pokemon Game in Italy. This is heavily thanks to the popularity of Pokemon GO and what it has done to the franchise. 3DS hardware sales are up by 59% and 33%. Sales have drastically increased for these games (excluding the Mystery Dungeon Title):
    Omega Ruby – 69%
    Alpha Sapphire – 71%
    X – 52%
    Y – 89%
    Super Mystery Dungeon – 8%

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    • Really? I figured most people dislike little miss mermaid over there.. and Tony the tigers typing he most.
      If this were real, it’s not, I’d go from litten to Rowlett in a heart beat

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      • It’s really not that bad. It’s not like we haven’t had feminine pokemon before. And for Litten’s typing it still has chances to be fire/dark. Don’t let the muscles scare you.

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    • Without knowing your preferences, here are some suggestions:

      Expensive:
      Bravely Second
      Hyrule Warriors (N3DS for better performance)
      Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds
      Fire Emblem Fates (start with Birthright)

      Cheaper:
      Megaman 3-4
      Streets of Rage 2 3D
      Zelda 2: The Adventure of Link (I know many people will hate it but I loved it so I will shill it until the end of time)
      The Binding of Isaac (N3DS for better performance)

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  31. Popplio looks the most male out of the group. . . This can’t be real. Or it was a Really bad decision. Gonna have to start creating gender specific evolutions for the starters. As in 2 per poke

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    • Well I’m not trying to defend these leaked starter designs, but the Litten one is what could be considered very “masculine” so I don’t see the problem with having a very “feminine” one too. The Rowlet one is pretty neutral.

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        • My problem is popplio doesn’t look feminine at all to me… And it’s final evo, to me, looks overwhelmingly girly without a purpose. At least Delphox looks battle rdy.. I love braxien and fennekin, it’s feminine from the start. But this right here is illogical and useless looking to me. That’s my problem with it

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          • Well let’s wait to see a second evo first. Plus these could still be fake so waiting for the middle forms serves us a dual purpose

          • What I’m saying doesn’t depend on the middle evolution though. I like things like this to be clear from the start personally. I even considered putting evolite on Braixen.. But u know.. Talonflame. This thing is gender swapping. Kitten looks more feminine to me

          • It does though, the middle stage would be, if these are real, where popleo would go from androgynous to slightly feminine and then from that into the very feminine popleo3. What is hard to understand about this?

          • If you don’t understand my comment or like it. .. it’s perfectly mature and understandable to say Nothing. Instead of being Annoying. Not everyone will agree with you.

          • Oh my god, if you want to talk about mature why don’t YOU act mature?! I have the right to respond to your comment and me responding to it is in no way immature! It is immature of you, if anything, to call me ANNOYING for debating you! I don’t need everyone to agree with me but that doesn’t mean that I can’t express my opinion! GOD!

          • Yes you are Very Immature. I keep reading your comments with you Attacking people who say something you disagree with. There is a way to comment and debate without coming off Whiny and over opinionated as if everything you say is undoubtedly correct. If you come under my comment section expect to get More of My views and respect that. You came to Me.
            Also using Gods name in vain is not wise as well… It can be offensive to others

          • And you aren’t being whiny and immature?! Dude if anyone is doing any attacking it’s you. And I’m sorry I used gods name in vain but you being very frustrating right now and I am not cursing or being derogatory so whatever.

          • Ok, I refuse to argue with you anymore. This is just turning into pointless squabbling. I am tired of this stuff. It makes me feel very unwelcome here when every time I disagree with something everyone acts like I am personally attacking them.

          • Lol.. every time? It’s time to take a look at yourself personally and see why others are so offended if this happens so often. It’s because you lack tact

          • I’m pretty sure that if I am offended by your opinion that feminine starters don’t belong in Pokemon, I am allowed to express that emotion. Don’t get procrustean about tact because that is hypocritical of you, because you have been very rude to me this whole time.

          • It’d only be gender swapping if Popplio looked “masculine”, which it doesn’t at all. It just looks like a dumb little seal trying to have a good time with some bubbles. Nothing about it suggests a gender. People here just have an idea that a seal needs to turn out big and fat and bulky. But look at seel into Dewgong. Seel isn’t feminine but dewgong is somewhat.

          • It Definitely looks Masculine… To Me. And many others who disagree with the design. You people gotta Read and understand Opinions. Which is why I’ve been sure to make this clear when I comment
            Looks like a little boy to me

          • I’m just not sure what makes it masculine in your eyes. It has a frilly collar and a big pink nose. Also likes to blow bubbles and do acrobatics.

          • All characteristics of a Clown which are majority Male. . .
            But it’s a performer which isn’t feminine at all not masculine.

          • I’d say most people who perform are females though. Just because it doesn’t have eyelashes to denote a gender doesn’t make it masculine.

          • I think all that we can definitively say is that it draws from performing seals, circus related or not.

          • Just putting this out there, you can be a female clown. There’s nothing out there that says clowns can be male.
            🙂

          • This is getting too heated, I’d think it’d be best for both sides to just calm down and move on from it. Just agree to disagree, you know?

          • I never said you couldn’t.. he was just using the same attributes that base it off of a Clown.. to say it was feminine.
            Which didn’t add up.

          • I said it was more neutral than anything, and more feminine than masculine if you really NEED to assign a gender to it.

          • Well that would be the part where I just mentioned assigning a feminine look at it. I was merely providing a counter to your argument, and I think I did that to the same success that you did. Point: clowns/performers/whatever are both genders, therefore popplio isn’t masc or fem. You can think whatever you want though

          • Right, cause it can be both, though.
            At this point, I think it’s best for both of you to agree to disagree. I’m all for discussion, but I know when to stop before it explodes, as it has here. Not blaming you, not blaming the other person, I’m just saying.

          • Yes while being a performer isn’t necessarily masculine either, what are you saying?

          • As stated above, poplio looks like a little boy. If it does somehow transform into this highly feminine mermaid creature, I will be truest amazed and also a little happy that game freak have created the first transgender Pokemon.

    • Are people really still having this debate? Why the heck can’t we have a freaking feminine starter?! We already have feminine starters! Meganium is feminine, is it fake?! Braixson is feminine out the wazoo, is it fake? I don’t think the fact that a starter is feminine really proves or disproves ANYTHING!

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  32. Guys help me decide what to do with the rest of my day off.
    -Play White 2
    -Go to Jungle Jims (International supermarket near where I live, my mom asked me to go)
    -Start season 2 of Jane the Virgin
    -Start season 6 of GoT
    -Play Rise of the Tomb Raider
    -Other? I could probably think of more things

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          • I can sort of multitask like that..depends though. Sometimes I’ll get too engrossed in the video game though and have to rewatch a minute of the show xP

          • Well it’s a turn based game though… at worst a minor distraction, I guess. I’d get into a wild or trainer encounter (or better yet, the Battle Whatever) and autopilot the attacks…

            I guess I’m an extreme example, I can doodle pictures and still get what they’re trying to say in a meeting or seminar…

          • I wish I was better at multitasking..I feel like it’d help with learning piano, which I’m doing right now and having trouble wrapping my head around dual hand movements like that

          • Nah don’t worry. That’s as far as my multitasking goes, as long as one activity is non-interactive it works.

            I kinda know how you feel, though I did drums instead of piano, and it’s trying to “separate” my foot from my arms.

          • Knowing the mouse might one day extract the cheese from the mystical crystal… It fills you with determination.

  33. Two thoughts:
    1. I still don’t believe theyre real. Not because I dislike them, but because it seems weird Gamefreak would actively censor them. I mean, we live in the information age, word of that would spread around (like it has) and confirm it’s real. Plus, having a starter evo with no legs limits what they can do with it in the anime. However, if they are real,
    2. Love Rowlett’s evo, reminds me of a medieval spy x3, Litten’s evo grew on me but still annoys me because… Gamefreak, why do you hate the possibilities of having a quadrupedal fire starter? First Emboar, then Delphox, now Litten? Cmon… Finally, HATED Popplio’s at first, now it grew on me. My only qualm is that there’s a pic of it standing on its tailfin which is (in my opinion) awkward-looking and dumb, I can see it being one of its battle animation and it bugs me.
    Thoughts?

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    • I actually thought of a mermaid fighting game character and it seems to work! Well that aside, I bet Popplio3 would do the standing thing for status moves. Popplio”1″ already does it as an idle animation.

      Also almost all (fire) starters are bipedal; and even Cyndaquil have bipedal tendencies… heh heh heh.

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      • Oh do you do game design? A fighting mermaid seems like a cool idea =D And for Popplio “1”, it makes sense, it’s a seal and they do that for performances, for a mermaid… Idk, steals the majesty for me lol.

        And for the others, made sense to me: Dragon, ape, fire chicken, whatever Typhlosion is. But for Emboar, could have been a badass warthog, for Delphox, couldve been like a mystic kyubii, similar to Ninetails (Ok after saying that I can see it), and Litten could be more feral.

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        • Well I don’t actually design games, but I can dream up characters anytime I want.

          I’m just not as good at making fakemon than fighting game characters.

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    • Ummm did you NOT pay attention to Poppleo’s battle animation? He clearly stands on his silly little tail at one points and poses, so I don’t see why its final couldn’t do the same dang thing. LOL

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      • I refer you to one of my replies:

        “for Popplio “1”, it makes sense, it’s a seal and they do that for
        performances, for a mermaid… Idk, steals the majesty for me lol.”

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  34. I think the entire pokemon community needs to step back and take a look at itself, me included. I just dislike what happens every time someone dislikes anything that has a glimpse of being real in the pokemon community.
    People are too willing to fight to the death over a children game. This should be one of the few places where varying opinions are welcomed in the world.
    No need to be obnoxious to those who don’t see things exactly as you do, but it’s ok to discuss.
    I feel we often start off very opinionated as if everything we say is factual, but it’s about how you behave After you’ve been corrected and reminded that we all have opinions, that matters he most

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    • I think the real problem here is that if Popplio’s final looked overwhelmingly masculine no one would be complaining, so I think its time to address the overwhelmingly sexist opinions of the community and try to grow as people and not go crazy over a pokemons design…

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    • Saying there should be no feminine starter is petty and sexist when we have masculine ones. Why do you want to exclude one of them, but no the other? Don’t act so righteous when your dislike is based on those attitudes.

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      • Wth. . . You Clearly did not read.
        I Love Fennekin and Braixen. I said I dislike how Popplio may turn into a gender he doesn’t represent in my eyes at all from the start and has no battle readiness to me! It’s excessive to me with no cause. It looks like it’s Only meant for a stage. To Me. Understood?
        If you’re going to judge read more than the opening next time.

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          • I know, right? It’s a cute silly seal pup with a frilly collar that sparkles when it poses…so manly.

          • Personal perception is based on perceiving objects. Describe why that object in your opinion is masculine or gtfo. Why share a view, but then not explain and continue to argue as though its matter of fact.

          • Tylotic.. I say it’s time for you to gtfo. I have explained multiple times below. Prove you have the skills to search for your wanted answers before commenting or expect anger

          • Oh my goodness, that’s a horrible thing to say to someone! And you called ME tactless. Everyone should be allowed to feel welcome here, don’t be so rude to those who don’t agree with you.

          • Ses… Stop running around like some hurt kid looking for support. I simply said the same thing back to them.. plus in sure me n this commenter have moved past it. Quit sturring the pot

          • Ok, I’m falling into the same trap that I’m trying to prevent, so I’m going to leave it at this. Literally stop trying to impose your views on others. I said it is PERCEPTION. Rece may perceive it as male, but you may perceive it as otherwise. But there is no reason to get mad either way. The fact that Rece sees it one way doesn’t effect you either way, so stop and give it a rest.

          • EXACTLY! Thank you. This is what I meant.. there is a gang mentality when people disagree here. They don’t Really want you to explain your side.. because things would quite down after we explain. They secretly just want you to Agree or Attack you all at once as a Horde!

          • It’s peaceful here until something controversial happens, and then God forbid anyone have an opinion about anything.

          • The majority here don’t see it that way though.
            Not to be hypocritical.. I’m sure we’ve all been on the wrong side of a pointless argument here and offline before

          • I relate it to a Clown.. clown frills.. clown nose.. clown hat nose… Which are majority Male.. though could be either. I say this to say it’s feminine also would not add up

          • Clown=female? That doe not add up. If you’re going to use those same items to say how unmasculine it may be.. I have the right to say how it could be. Childish!!!

          • Sorry but I have seen many, MANY female clowns. And I have seen a HORRENDOUS amount of feminine looking MALE clown designs. 😛

          • smh, you know what, this isn’t worth it… You go ahead and hate it for having feminine qualities all you want, but if you seriously cant see whats wrong with that, then thats a little sad. you said earlier “its feminine for no reason” why does it need a reason? sure you see popplio as masculine in its first stage (don’t know why but ok) but why does its third stage have to reflect that for you? Thats the whole point of pokemon evoluntion, changing and growing. Thats all I am going to say. Peace.

          • It has Nothing to do with it brig feminine.. it’s the change in my mind from start to Finnish and it a execution! Read People!

          • I read all your comments several times so as not to say something that wasn’t true, they all came off as you not liking it simply because of its feminine qualities so don’t get like that with me. I’m not arguing with you anymore because I feel that you don’t understand why people got upset with you, its not because you think Popplio is masculine, its because you cant except its final being feminine, thats why people got upset, it came off as a sexist view (even if you said you like braixen and the like it doesn’t change that) It may not have been your intention but thats how it was perceived

          • Exactly.. it’s because I think popplio is Masculine.. going Against what They Think.. though I’ve been Sure to state its Only My opinion. Which I am allowed to have. You all don’t want me to explain why I think the way I do.. because I have.. you just want me to agree. That’s not a good mentality for conversation or debate.. that’s where argument ensue

          • It’s not because you think Popplio is Masculine that I have a problem, it is the reason you provide. It’s sexist to say clowns are masculine, and not feminine.

          • It’s also very ignorant to ignore some jobs and roles are more masculine than feminine.. regardless if it hurts your feelings or not.

          • perhaps, but clowns are not one of those jobs, its just that when people think of clowns they think of the generic male clown, but the jobs is pretty even as a whole

          • That’s Laughable! You judged and criticized me Before I gave my reasoning. I think it’s sexist you found frills and a pink nose less than masculine! How about that!?
            You pointed these objects out first and I simply explained how they could look masculine in my eyes.

          • Why are you seriously still fucking arguing over this. Get over the bullshit “sexism” politics before I close the comments or ban you.

          • Then it has something to do with it being feminine, you don’t like it being feminine because Popplio is masculine to you. But what I have to say to you is to try to understand that gender can be fluid and not every Pokemon (or person) can be put in a gender box

          • I understand it. .. I just don’t like it for popplio. Even its name is Masculine.. To Me. I’m perfectly allowed to dislike it without it Hurting others

          • . . . Omg. As I stated. Read below. To Me it’s masculine. At most I could see it neutral. I enjoy the clear cut male female of the chikorita and fennekin.. I also see snivy as feminine personally which I’m sure some disagree with.. But in my eyes popplio looks like a little boy.
            So I am just going to stop you there, because you are already turning my opinion into a joke passive aggressively. This is the problem I was mentioning!

        • If you’re a steven universe fan… Sardonyx is all I have to say, she’s ready for the stage but will still kick ass and take names, performers usually take up fighting quite well as their movements are graceful and swift and allow them to move quickly

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      • My main problem with this argument is that people often assume that those who dislike the feminine starters never specifically said that they like the masculine ones. I don’t like Emboar because I see it as more masculine, and I dislike Delphox because it looks more feminine.

        I also dislike Popplio’s supposed evolution because it looks far too feminine in my eyes.

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    • You just described Human nature in general. Personally I’ve never understood why people act this way, but you see it in pretty much everything.

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        • I agree. I try not to involve myself with petty arguments, I usually just state my opinion, and if it’s attacked by people I tend not to respond. I’m more than happy to have reasonable discussions with people with differing opinions, but I rarely get that online, so I don’t bother.

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          • Omg.. you win the internet! I admit it’s still a sign of immaturity in me to go with this overwhelming need to always reply back! Lol.
            I just can’t stand people thinking they have won something that wasn’t a competition or argument in the first place. My fault..

    • Well just so you know, none of what I was saying was hostile, nor should you perceive it that way. I was very chill when I was responding to you. As I said before, you’re free to your opinion

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        • Yeah the problem is me, for being frustrated by someone who is denying the sheer possibility of an androgynous starter turning feminine and is and who is throwing insults at me because of it.

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          • Snivy is androgynous to me.. and I love it. I made mine female. I love how it sticks to its androgynous theme the entire way throigh. I don’t see popplio to be the same personally.
            I love the femininity of Chikorita and Fennekin.. I love how they follow through the line with this.
            The drastic change in my eyes with popplio in this art is one of my main problems..
            And how it doesn’t look ready for battle in my eyes.. only a stage.
            My only problems with it.
            I didn’t know I had to type everything I thought at once repeatedly to amuse people
            But do you understand me now?
            I never had a problem you disagreeing.. only the way you chose to go about expressing it

    • But then the most climatic info has been blown too soon. Even simple confirmation or deconfirmation is very huge news.

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      • I feel like if these turn out to be fake, and they refused to acknowledge it sooner, then it was just a ploy to keep us interested longer. It could easily just fade into any other fan art we took seriously

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    • Well if these are real I wouldn’t be surprised if they held off on the middle evos now. If we don’t get them by the October info dump, I’d definitely suspect these to be legit.

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  35. I don’t know about you guys, but if these are the starters, I want Brock to come back and travel with Ash and have a Rowlet. If these aren’t the starters…. Well. I still want Brock back.

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        • I don’t see Ash with a Rockruff as much as I would like him to have one.

          It would work with Brock, cos it’s a rock type, and it reminds of Ludicolo, fun loving, carefree Pokemon.

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          • I definitely see Ash with a Rockruff. I feel like Brock would get a Stronger, more hardcore rock type.

          • Possibly, we will wait and see what happens.
            Of all the Pokemon release thus far, I can’t see Ash with many of them. Maybe Salandit if he gets Popplio as a starter, but two generations in a row with Water Starter as his main…I’m not sure.

          • ugh, dont remind me, I was really hoping for some diversity on his team because they always seem similar, but maybe Alola will bring that

          • Same, but I think they did it so Ash could Sky Battle and the limited amount of new pokemon forced them to spread the roster a bit thin. But like you said, hopefully Alola will help

          • I still maintain that was a mistake. I would keep Noivern, but I wouldn’t have given him the Hawlucha. I feel it was wasted with Ash (just an opinion). I would have given him Trevenant/Gourgeist to cover his lack of grass and give him another ghost which he hasn’t had since Haunter

          • Idk, I agree it was a mistake and wouldve liked Trevenant, but I feel like Hawlucha perfectly matches Ash’s personality. I love Noivern but I feel like the creators anticipated the hate for releasing Goodra so they gave him Noivern.

          • I felt the same. I do like how they don’t have the same weaknesses somehow. Though Halwlucha has been used in every league battle to make up for it, it would seem

          • I see where your coming from with that. However I used to think the same of Scraggy and Ash ended up with him, so im hoping he gets a Salandit. Also he hasn’t had a Poison Type since Muk (I think)

          • Ikr.. they dont really fit him in my eyes. Thin n speedy is what he’s all about lately.
            I thought salandit too but I dunno if he would use a pokemon that loves toxic so much. I dunno

          • didn’t broke usually go for the little cute pokemon? aka vulpix, mudkip, lotad and such, I only remember him having onix as his hardcore one

          • My only problem with that is the starters and rockruff are unique from the rest. So if it’s based on their final evo, part of me feels he will only catch one of the 4 to exaggerate this like only having greninja.
            But design wise.. it’s definitely one of the few I can see with Ash.. honestly I’ve been having a hard time deciding who suites him so far.
            I can’t even decide who suites me! Lol

      • Brock should get a Bounsweet from an egg. It’ll be just like Happiny but it will be less strong and more crybabyish it’ll only get along with Brock and will be scared of everyone else. Even Brock’s Pokémon.

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    • Brock was the best, he would need a Pokemon like Croagunk to keep him away from the girls, please not another Max though, Croagunk was waaay better than Max.

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    • LOL I want Gary to make a come back, and travel with Ash. Since Gary said he is no longer a trainer, but a researcher, he wouldn’t really compete with Ash over a lot of things. But I think it would be awesome if Ash’s former rival became one of his traveling companions for a generation. 😀 That’s what I want to see. 😀

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  36. Welp, I’ve had enough antagonization for today. I’ll be back Monday when hopefully the news will be exiting and this fighting will be over.

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  37. Lets move the topic on haha
    So what’s everyone hoping for tomorrow apart from just info on the next island 🙂

    Edit haha : 30 days has September ,April June and November. 😛 but you know what I mean.

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  38. I also have beef with some of these names… They will grow on me.. But.. Comfey.. Beware… These are just words to me. Not names. I know nicknames exist.. and many like them. Just saying.

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  39. I hope we get some really cool new moves this gen, but what I really want is a new physical fairy type move, my idea is:

    “Enchanting Hug”
    Attack power of 60
    accuracy 90
    It hugs the foe in a strong grip and has a small chance to lower the foes accuracy

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  40. So are we expecting news on southern Kalos or is that just for Corocoro?

    What I’m expecting:
    -Pokemon mounts info
    -the new combo synchro feature or whatever it is
    -2 new pokemon: 1 ice and 1 dark
    -Gym leader

    This is the last time I’m gonna speculate we’ll be seeing a gym leader lol

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  41. My hopes for August 1st:
    – Arceus. Just more gameplay in the Alola Region.
    – Explination if Gyms are returning or not.
    – Demonstration of Super Moves.
    – The return of Mega Evolutions.
    – More mechanics of the Alola Region.
    – Fossil Pokemon.
    – 3-4 New Pokemon. I really want to see an Ice Type.

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    • I’m torn on mega evolutions. I don’t want it replacing full evolutions, and I don’t want it taking up the space of more new pokemon.

      But megas are interesting, and add to the competitive nature of the game.

      Then again, if we’re getting super moves, adding new megas could make it pretty complex, they’d probably need to tone down the amount of new megas to compensate (and since we haven’t seen any yet, that’s probably the case).

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      • Personally I’m against megas.

        I like some of the designs of the megas, but personally I’d prefer they were actually full time pokemon or full alternate forms and not just some ‘only exist during battle’ thing. It makes them fleeting, like weather effects.

        Plus the limited number of megas means non-megas are more likely to get neglected and it’s hard to run a team without having a mega yourself, which again locks you into choosing from the set of pokemon that have mega evos.

        If the new Z-moves can one shot a mega evo, balance will be restored.

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    • Well, you got your wishes. Sort of.

      “Explination if Gyms are returning or not.”
      No explanation, but a slight hint. They’re probably trying to put off the obvious uproar that will occur when people learn the truth.

      “Demonstration of Super Moves.”
      Wish granted. Z-Moves away!

      “The return of Mega Evolutions.”
      Erm… not yet? My money is on Mega Evos being forgotten about now.

      “More mechanics of the Alola Region.”
      Eh, sort of.

      “I really want to see an Ice Type.”

      Welp, you got your wish. Oh boy did you get your wish lol

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  42. So if you had to make a new ability, what would it be/do? Personally I want more abilities like refrigerate and pixelate. Perhaps one for grass, bug, and steel. I would also like an ability for a rock type called Galvanized that protects it from water attacks.

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    • One for my Steel/Dark evil robot pokemon: Internal Core, gives this pokemon STAB on electric moves, thus making triple type pokemon without making it confusing.

      Ghost/Rock skeletal cat pokemon: 9 lives, once you knock this pokemon out, it heals itself to 50%. Works 9 times >:) I’m just kidding, that would be evil lol. But I think a move called reanimate would be really cool for this pokemon. When you use it, it basically is like a revive for a pokemon in your party. Can only be used once per battle. That, or it brings you to 50 health in exchange. I know a lot about dark magic and such is a sort of “give and take” kind of thing. Maybe it’d be a Dark/Rock type then…

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      • The prevo would go from Dark/Electric –> Dark/Steel with a metal coat. That’s why I’d want it to keep that electric stab 🙂

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    • Not new abilities but this is what I would have done for Full Metal Body and Shadow Shield

      Full Metal Body – 20% Boost to Steel moves, and take reduced damage from Fire
      Shadow Shield – 20% Boost to Ghost moves, and take reduced damage from Dark

      I would make Justified make you immune to Dark, and give you the attack boost (Like Lightening Rod, Storm Drain).

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      • As for new abilities, one for Rowlet based on these leaks, real or not

        Archer – Projectile moves have their damage increased by 50%

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  43. Since this new region is basically water everywhere, it would be great if Ash found Misty there (researching new water pokemon or smt like that). She was one of the best partners he had.

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    • O I miss her so much. Misty had a certain fire and compassion to her that made her so likable. And she was so sassy, her and Ash exchanging quips was golden

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    • I would love to see misty again as a traveling companion and have ash travel with the male protagonist from the region he’s in too (not alola though, the male protagonist looks like he’d have the personality of a foot)

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  44. The leak was apparently on 4chan. He didn’t give a link. I’ll ask. And it reveals the Starter’s middle evolutions, Yungoos’s evolution, and four other Pokemon. One of them being the Sea Cucumber Pokemon that the Chinese leaker had mentioned. The Sea Cucumber is apparently exclusive to Moon.

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      • If it’s real. People have gotten better at making “My Uncle Works for Nintendo” leaks these days. Wouldn’t surprise me if someone spent all this time writing up the descriptions for these Pokemon and they turn out to be false. And if I recall, the European fired Employee leaker gave the same species classifications for the Starters as this guy did. It doesn’t take rocket science to write up a well though out leak. Just time. Which most “leakers” don’t have. But apparently, this guy did have the time.

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      • There are several things to me that give off red flags. I didn’t read the full descriptions of the Pokemon (lazy me) but the one thing that really threw me off was they don’t usually reveal the evolutions of Starters until less than 2 months or so before release. And it also seemed very convincing, but a little too convincing. But like you said, we could be surprised. August 1st can’t come soon enough!

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        • I would assume that if these were real, they’d be copy/pasted, but there are so. many. typos. In Ickle’s description, ‘enduring’ is used where I believe they meant ‘endearing.’ But that’s only one of many mistakes I’ve spotted.

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    • These leaks aren’t too bad! Also, you’ve been on a roll with finding them. We’ll just wait for Monday to see if there real.

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    • What is winbat? I thought it was a wombat, but from the description it’s clearly not, but it doesn’t sound like a bat either.

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    • Knuckle bite? That sounds very specific to Mangoose (and also sounds dumb) and they almost never give special moves to pokemon that aren’t very special in some way (Starters, Volcarona, Legends, etc.) I’m calling fake.

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  45. I hope they are fake I think starters final evos should be as Gender neutral as possible. And Gender differences are acceptable as long as they are minor like Venusaurs and others.

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    • Gender differences are cool, but if not, I feel like it doesn’t really matter if they’re fem/masc as long as the designs are good.

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      • Never said anything about fem and masc.People tend to forget that pokemon are that worlds version of animals, and animals barring some species have very minute differences.

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        • Fem/Masc generally refer to specific genders, which is what I’m talking about. You can get all technical if you want…but that’s what I’m getting at.

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    • Go on Google and have a look at the majority of MALE animals, and you will see that its the male animals that are the more impressive, and pretty looking of the many species. So no they don’t need to be made more “Gender Neutral, because if you go by real life, then they are VERY much “gender neutral” Pokemon are based on animals NOT humans, so it does not matter how feminine or macho they come out looking.

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    • Can we not go into this debate again? I know everyone has their own opinion, but these designs are rather okay. I do not care if one looks more feminine or masculine than the other. It’s ridiculous and we’ve had stuff like this in Pokemon before (examples; Gardevoir, Lopunny, and Milotic). It doesn’t matter in the grand scheme of things. Additionally, we do not know if these designs are real or fake. Don’t stress yourself.

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  46. I just hope we get confirmation or deconfirmation of these leaks. I hate being left in suspense, and I don’t feel justified in hating them just yet.

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  47. I’m calling it: if we don’t get anyone gym info on the 1st, there may be some validity to the no gyms theory. Not getting any gyms this far is definitely suspicious.

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  48. Why are people literally just now talking about the designs of these Pokemon? I mean, we’ve had like 4 articles on them at this point, and people are just now bringing up controversy? xD

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  49. While I was checking sugimori twitter I noticed he mentioned and posted many subjects and pics as well that focusing on wrestling ,tiger mask ,and wrestling in general.

    As we know Mr.Sugimori blocked as artist I just wonder Y he posting these ?? ad
    could he lead the design in GF by making the designers draw his idea ?

    I need more onfo about that and sorry about bad writing but I am sleepy ….ZZZzzzzz

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  50. Funny how adamant ppl get when you voice your own opinion on a subject that differs from their own. Coming from a group thats all about equality and acceptance its laughable.

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    • what are you even talking about? looks like you’re trying to start another fight to me, and we don’t need that any more today

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    • I don’t see what you mean?
      Ever since that discussion happened earlier today, I haven’t seen anything of what you are talking about. I’m all for discussion, but when it gets super heated, I tend to tell people to cool down and move on.

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    • Honestly I think you just started a certain convo at a bad time, although I don’t think anyone was being rude. There was a lengthy heated debate earlier with some people getting upset over feminine pokemon. So I think people were just tired of seeing a bunch of topics on it because there are some very polarized opinions on the topic (and not everyone is always accepting about stuff like that, although it’s generally in a respectful manner.) Hopefully you’re not pushed away from the community here though.

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  51. I know everyone is sick of prediction comments but I haven’t active very much today so why not:

    Predictions for August 1st:

    Super-moves details
    3-5 pokemon (might get starter evo’s too)
    Fossil Pokemon in addition to the new ones
    Gym leaders????? Only if there are gyms…..
    And lastly….. GAMEPLAY OF ALOLA

    What do you guys think we’ll get?

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  52. Dipper doesn’t look like a Mason to me. He looks more like a Matthew if it HAD to start with an M. (Gravity Falls if u couldn’t tell btw)

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  53. If anyone missed it, there was an update for Pokemon Go! They removed footsteps, fixed some crashes and freezes and allowed you to recustomize your trainer with new clothing options!

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  54. well guys looks like our train adventure is about to come to a close,tomorrow is going to be the big day we’re going to see some new Pokemon from Sun and Moon,I just can’t wait! XD

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  55. Sweet glorious Internet, my house’s wifi is on the fritz I freaking had to go to my local park just to mooch the hotspot

    Anywhooooo……I finally finished breeding the last of my X Competitive Pokemon for a while

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  56. Okay , so I made this Comfey evolution , plz tell me if you like it !

    Name: Comfetty
    Type: Psychic/Fairy
    Ability: Triage , Flower Veil
    Description: Comfetty uses its psychic powers to maintain the flower petals in the air .These petals can be used to attack enemies or to create a shield against enemie attacks. This tedious work requires tremendous concentration, as such , comfettys eyes are always closed.
    Moves: Flower cutter , Flower shield

    Hope y’all like it !

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    • I really like that, but I personally don’t see it evolving. I see it as a similar gimmick to Klefki even though I frequently see people comparing it to Flabebe.

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      • I’m in between. Klefki didn’t evolve, but it had a whole bunch of different keys to make the design more complex. Comfey’s design is much simpler, leaving an evolution open imo. Although true, it is another object-gimmicky pokemon.

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    • glad you guys liked it ! Im thinking about making a third evolution named Comfaiy (comfy + fairy basically XD) but id rather start drawing a new fakemon evolutionary line consisting of : blip , blop , bloup , basically a klink like evolutionary line. will let you know when I’m finished drawing them.

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  57. I was on the /vp/ board when I think we began tweeting the images at Sugimori and Masuda, less than a month ago. Does anyone know if they have been blocking other “leaks”? If these are the only ones they’re taking measures to block, that would probably infer legitimacy.

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  58. So with Florges and comfey, does anyone thing flowers may be a recurring theme in fairy types? It’s usually reserved to grass types, but now we have two Pokemon lines that contradict that.

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      • I agree. I wish they would either commit to the theme or at least say what constitutes a fairy: is it cute Pokemon? mostly. Are they magical? Yeah. Are they pink? A lot are. Moon? Healing? Flowers? Etc.

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        • Yeah it is a bit inconsistent. Cute? Any Pokemon could be. Magical? Could also be psychic Pink? A lot are fairy, yeah, but not always. Flowers? Could be grass. I see what you mean, there is no real theme throughout the type.

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          • Although I guess you could say that every fairy is either magical, pink, or cute, or all of the above.

  59. I gotta say, I love this group. I tried looking around a Facebook for pokemon, and they’re all just giant jokes of people wanting to feel puffed up and important. Yeah we have rules here but they’re really just common sense rules, and admins are parts of the group rather than just trying to make themselves feel good. This is by far the best community I’ve been a part of. Thank you again to everybody here!

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  60. Less than a day until news! I’m personally hoping for at least 5 new Pokemon, with at least one of those being an evolution of a previously-revealed Pokemon (Komala, Bounsweet, and Wimpod seem likely to me). I also feel like we’ll get a new Legendary, possibly another Guardian, and maybe even the reveal of Synchro! Remember, it was the August 2013 CoroCoro that revealed Mega Evolutions. As for me, I’ve been drifting away from Pokemon this summer to catch up on PS3 and X360 games, but I’m thinking about finally starting SoulSilver today. I can’t think of a better time to do that.

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  61. my predictions for tomorrow :
    Salandit evo
    new mechanics reveal ( partly)
    new evolution method
    new move(s)
    yangoos evo
    pikipek evo
    new ice and dark pokemon
    new guardian pokemon

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  62. I just hope tomorrows new just confirm these as fake XD btw my predictions for tomorrow are (from most likely to least likely):
    1. 2-7 new pokemon revealed
    2. Reveal and details about super moves
    3. Details about how riding pokemon will work
    4. An important character like the champion(without revealing its the champion), evil team, team leader(without saying its the leader) or a gym leader
    5. Starter middle evos

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  63. Im really hoping for 2 very unlikely things:
    1: these starter leaks confirmed false
    2: pokemon GO being permanently shut down and removed.

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  64. Something tells me we aren’t getting a new Pokemon dump tomorrow. Don’t know what we will get, but it may be just region/character info, or maybe intro to evil team/storyline details.

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    • I think most people would be ok with that. We have plenty of Pokemon to look at now. What don’t have is a lot of insight on the actual region. It’d be nice to meet some new characters and see some new points of interest. lol

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  65. You know how every region has a theme for naming towns and stuff, like kanto-colors, johto-types of plants, unova-clouds etc well i hope that alola us really simple and towns and cities are just named with plain old hawaiian words like Moana city, lani town or haohao village

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  66. So during the friggin 10 hours of no freaking Internet and electricity I worked on my Fakemon dex and finally cranked out my regional bug, the Emperor Tailed Caterpillar
    Grubblet Bug
    A medium sized light green grub with 4 long yellow horns on its head similar to a crown, and with blue compound eyes resembling jewels, numerous beady feet and at the very end of the body a rhomboid sapphire jewel
    Then into Krystasis Bug
    A multicolored glittering cocoon with all sorts of bright shiny scales resembling a Faberge Egg with two sets of jewels resembling eyes
    Then finally Emproyal Bug/Psychic
    But a elegant silvery gold Butterfly with ginormous sapphire wings with crystal cut scales, 5 long antennas each adorn with light blue dews and glittering crystal eyes and a iconic white ruffle collar
    They’re very sought after because they build nests with a translucent saliva that when hardens looks like the most pristine jewels also they can emit an ultrasonic energy from the flapping of its wings to ward off all predators (and maybe even going as far as serving them)

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  67. Ugh, they shut down Pokevision? BOOOOO. Honestly, expecting people to just walk all around with no idea where anything is is just stupid.

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    • Exactly. Niantic isn’t fixing their own tracking system (if it even is a bug), and then they come out and dissaprove of literally the only alternative.

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    • Ikr if they had kept the footsteps and fixed them i would have been ok with it but now i have no way of knowing where a nearby pokemon that i want is exactly

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          • Yeah but are they north, east, west or south of you? Idk you can still track them but not accurately and the pokemon might even despawn before you find it

          • I don’t know, may not be for other people, but for me that’s the fun of it. Like in the games we know general area where a pokemon is, but still gotta hunt around 🙂

          • Yeah i guess, its just that i play go at my local park which is huge and most pokemon are eevees and ryhorns, but occasionally rare pokemon like bulbalsaur or starmie spawn and pokevision help me see if they were near me or on the other side of the park xD

          • I think the difference is the system for hunting pokemon now is more like hunting Feebas in Gen 3, you have to find the exact specific tile it’s on with no help, so it’s frustrating as heck. Running into pokemon in the game isn’t really all that random, you’ll run into pokemon as long as you’re in the tall grass, it’s just the species that’s random.

      • But I also have to look at my phone which has a very, very small radius that can detect pokemon. If this were real life, I’d have several hundred feet of distance that I could see pokemon from (using my eyes), not 6 or 7 around me that the game uses. They need to expand the detection radius.

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  68. Ughhhhhh this suuuuuuucks my router is dead, it’s gonna take a few days for the new one to freaking get here and then all the realigning with all my damn electronics
    Life sucks and all but no internet is the icing on the shitcake, if I want to freaking do any of my daily activities I gotta go to a damn hotspot
    And now if I want to partake of all the pre info jitters I gotta leave the house and hope the wifi is good

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    • Won’t that make shinies harder to get? Correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t shinies found if the Pokemon ID matches trainer ID?

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      • That’s the Secret ID. This also was used to ensure that even with the finite amount of IDs, no two should be exactly the same b/c of the Secret ID. Furthermore, the amount of normal ID’s is given by 10^n, where an integer n is the amount of digits. If the SID is the same length as the ID, then the total amount of combinations is 10^2n. Since there are 7 billion people in the world, or 7*10^9, 2n>9. The first integer where this occurs is 5, hence why each ID is 5 digits long. This makes me wonder why they changed it — I guess so as to not risk anything & because people get multiple copies of each game?

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  69. So guys, on Pokemon Go, a Sandshrew is near my area. Ive never even seen one before, the tracker got rid of its footstep system, Niantic shut down all third party apps, Ive been wandering aimlessly for around 10 min, it’s 106 miles to Chicago, I’ve got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it’s dark and I’m wearing sunglasses. Does anyone have any advice before it disappears?

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    • If you tap on the pokemon in the tracker, then only grass patches containing that pokemon will appear. You just gotta find the grass patch then head over there

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      • I dont think that works anymore. ive tried tapping on all the pokes and it doesn’t circle them for me anymore =-=

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  70. Okay , so I made this Bounsweet evolution , plz tell me if you like it !

    Name: Bounutiful
    Type: Grass/Fairy
    Ability: Oblivious , Cute Charm
    Description: Bounutiful uses its Beauty to maintain the cuteness .it’s a very popular Pokemon and loves to enter dance contests and beauty contests.
    Moves: Petal Dance , Charm

    Hope y’all like it !

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  71. This Pokemon GO update is partly bad and good. I mean, mostly bad but I like to look on the bright side of things.

    First, I think the balancing stuff is great. It shows that Niantic is aware of the battle system being wacko. Hopefully they fix even further..

    Second, the transfer update is great, but hopefully they also incorporate an option to transfer multiple Pokemon at once.

    Third. NIANTIC YOU BETTER FREAKING DO SOMETHING QUICK ABOUT THIS TRACKING STUFF. I SWEAR IF YOU GUYS DON”T FIX IT YOU’LL LOSE ALL YOUR PLAYERS.

    But in all seriousness, Niantic needs to be more responsive through their social media. Because all these people are asking what is happening and they can’t even tweet or post one thing about why they took such a move. It’s very simple to hire a social media team with the money made in just the first month of launch.

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    • Something tells me new megas will be locked behind the game. They have too many new features and locations to cover to waste time on them.

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      • So like a post game thing? Cause thatd be a great idea for a quest or something. Maybe have each stone guarded by a trainer with the mega in question as their signature pokemon.

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        • Yeah I dont think we’ll see any until the post game. I could be wrong but I dont see them featuring mega evolution in every main storyline from here on out.

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          • I more or less agree, for X/Y it made sense because the professor was studying them. But I feel like they’re too integrated in the series now to make it a post-game feature. Because if there’s new ones, players will want to have it in their team and use it against the E4. Like you said though, I could be wrong.

          • I’m still trying to wrap my head around them choosing to introduce megas instead of real evolutions. It just would’ve made things so much more natural and easy

          • Man, wish I could like your comments 9 more times. I’m really hoping it didn’t kill the idea of real evolutions. I mean, Sylveon, sure, but that’s just one pokemon.

          • They know we want them..so they need to give them to us. Perhaps I’m acting entitled but that’s how I feel.

          • My only thought is that if they give regular pokes an actual good evolution and it ends up bad, people will just slap on an Evolite
            My worst fear….Evolite Skarmory……..

          • I really dont like the eviolite…it undermines evolving pokemon which doesn’t seem right to me.

          • I hate it because you can’t enforce item duplicate clauses
            So many times Porygon2 and Z and Chansey all on the same team *shudder*
            Or the obvious Piloswine and Mamoswine just for a free stealth rocker

          • And don’t get me started on Little Cup
            Because of that little thing Mienfoo basically destroys as it pleases

          • I never use it, but I can see why people like it. It justifies unevolved pokemon. Before eviolite they were just written off. So now if your pokemon is unevolved, you can still use it… But yeah, I dread the thought of Eviolite Skarmory x.0

          • I mean Dusclops is pure evil on its own but if you don’t have a Knock Off you are so effing screwed
            And that goes double dealing with Chansey

          • Hey it’s real. My problem with megas is that I feel like the creators feel like theyre substitutes for new pokemon which contributed to a low Gen VI number of pokemon

          • Agreed, I’m annoyed that Houndoom is stuck without an evo =.= I always wanted it to become like Cerberus

          • Man I would be completely down with that idea x3 It would be my new favorite… How do fans come up with better ideas than the creators?

          • Ughhhhhhh I hate that thing so much…. I want to take it by the feelers, slam it into a fire hydrant and hogtie it with said feelers and leave it in a dumpster

      • I just have no idea why they would have it be such an integrated feature complete with mega evolution specials on tv, and then ditch them almost completely the new gen. Every gen adds things to the battle scene (weather, abilities, etc) and none that I know of have scrapped an idea.

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  72. What is everyone’s plan for release, pertaining to leaks and info? I stayed around for XY leaks, but I feel like I would’ve had more fun if it’d been a surprise. So this time, I’m going to avoid the internet completely for two weeks in advance of SM, and not come back until I finish the games and explore the post game extensively. It’ll be tough, but I’m determined to avoid spoilers, so I hope that it’s worth it with many surprises in game.

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    • I’m going completely offline once I see that somebody has gotten the game early because it’s bound to happen. I’ll probably come back after post-game.

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      • It’s weird for me, because I don’t want spoilers, so I’m intentionally staying away, but at the same time I’m subconsciously afraid of missing something. XD

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        • Right. For the last 2 releases I physically locked away all my electronics to reduce the temptation to spoil things right before release. 😛

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          • I never really thought of myself as addicted to electronics, but thinking about how difficult this’ll be for me made me realize that I probably am.

    • I told myself that before ORAS but I find that knowing info about the game never really detracts from the experience for me.

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      • I don’t know either way, because I’ve spoiled every release I’ve been genuinely interested in, so this’ll be new for me. Plus with ORAS, all the Megas were revealed pre release, and it’s a remake, so it’s different.

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    • I’ll still be here xD Hopefully, for this release, unlike the others, I’ll stick around for release and past that. Last two times I had other reasons for going off, but it definitely makes me miss being on.

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    • I always end up sticking around for everything. sure it’d be nice to go in a little blind, but leaks and run up to the games are so much fun and I can’t stay off the internet anyway lol

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      • Yeah, definitely agree. Plus most leaks/info we get doesn’t minimize my experience of it. I still react in the same way I normally do. The leaks don’t give away every single detail of the game, and if they do, I don’t look at all of it, so my experience isn’t spoiled because of it.
        It’s like that with all media to be honest, movies, books, tv shows, games, etc.

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        • Exactly. They never reveal all the Pokemon either. X and y was a leaked pokedex. Besides that, I would say your two week plan smart.

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          • At the end of the day, every person’s different. My dad hates spoilers of any kind, and avoids info about anything. However, as you see, I am the opposite.
            It just depends on the person, is all 🙂

          • See, I love this community and I love rumors and speculating. I would rather not have everything spoiled, so a little bit of mystery is welcome!

      • I have to weigh my options here. Sure, the leaks were a lot of fun, but having a Pokemon be a complete surprise would be fun as well.

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        • I forgot to add that I’ve never went into a Pokemon game without knowing every detail of it, so it’d be a new experience for me.

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          • I think the only time I went in totally blind was Diamond. Sure, it was kind of fun, and it was what I needed to get back into the series with the love I have now, but with the way I am now, I don’t mind not going in blind. I’m glad for that experience, and I definitely think you should at least do it once, but it’s something that I will probably never do again.
            But maybe you’ll like doing it and keep doing it 🙂 I think you should try it once, just to have that experience.

          • If it’s anything like ORAS though, and there is little surprise involved, or if I miss the surprise, I will have felt like I wasted the time. XY leak season was tons of fun, though I think I’ll try to get the surprise element.

          • It’s totally up to you, and you still got some time before it really happens, so take your time and think about it :3

          • Yeah, remembering leak season of XY makes me rethink my decision, but you’re right, I still have plenty of time to think about it.

  73. Hey y’all, quick question, did anyone else see that “leak” yesterday on /vp/ about tomorrow where the guy presented some very convincing pokemon descriptions? There was a Fire/Ground one shaped like a star named Mokuto (I only remember it cause I found it so funny xD). If you saw it, what do you think?

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    • I honestly hope it’s real, but I highly doubt it because of all the typos and syntactical errors. I especially love the sea cucumber ‘mon.

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      • And by the looks of it, the real evolutions for the starters would be the leaked ones (who I absolutely love); very much hype indeed.

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    • Every release period I get tricked once by a leak on vp. It’s already happened so I no longer believe anything from them until they can somehow regain my trust with something coming true. Until then vp has got nothing…lol

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    • Sounds great, but the starter evolutions seem too convenient to be true. All of the middle evolutions contain elements that relate directly to the starter leaks? Does that hold true for any other starter trio?

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        • There are multiple examples, but never have all three starters in a single generation done that (as far as I’m concerned). Frogadier is an entirely separate entity from Greninja, you couldn’t really tell what it would evolve into. I’m not 100% sure this is fake, but it seems like it to me.

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          • I will say though, I am feeling like version exclusives and starter evolutions are pretty likely for this info dump. Strange that they both appear on this leak.

          • Unless the final starter leaks are real and they feel like they have nothing to lose at this point, I feel that getting stater evos is a highly unlikely prediction, though we are getting close.

      • Well the way I see it, they do have similarities to the leaked final evos, but those leaked evos also have an unique aspect that coudn’t be predicted by reading the middle stage descriptions:
        Litten > urban cat > wrestler
        Rowlet > goofy owl > moody archer
        Popplio > entertainer seal > siren

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    • I mean, seems very detailed. And either someone had way too much time on their hands (I don’t see too many flaws with the leak) or it’s real.

      The sea cucumber mon and the fact that this “leaker” posted exclusive Pokemon is something worth noting. Then again, the starter evos sound WAY too predictable.

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  74. I has an idea for a new Rock/Fighting type
    Monolift
    Imagine a short, stout stone ape like creature with huge hands and arms, hoisting a huge boulder
    They train their arms by trying to find and lift the heaviest objects around, if they don’t find objects to lift they become easily agitated

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    • Earthen how do you feel about the steel type? It generally gets grouped in with the ground and rock types but you don’t really ever talk about it.

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      • I often contemplate my relationship with Steel types, honestly outside Excadrill and maybe Aggron I really don’t use steel types

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  75. What would you guys name the final starter evolutions (assuming the leak is real)? I cannot stand the supposed leaked names, so I thought I’d come
    up with my own.

    Rowlet 3 – Archoot (Archer + hoot. It also sounds like shoot)
    Litten 3 – Litigre (Lit + libre + misspelling of tiger)
    Popplio 3 – Marmeid (Mar, meaning ocean + misspelling of mermaid)

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  76. Does anyone know if the information will be a video or will it be just a site update ? I’m not sure if it has been said yet. Thanks

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  77. A bit off this topic, but if Mega Dragonite were to be a thing, what typing do you all like it to be? My vote is for Dragon/Water

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  78. Please be considerate when playing Pokemon GO. My brother and I were taking gyms from each other to gain exp, so we were putting low cp Pokemon on. Then some people drove by and made fun of my brother for putting on a CP 27 Squirtle, and drove off laughing. Instead of “watch where you’re going” warning, there should be a “please be considerate” warning.

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    • Wait…..so let me get this straight…..they weren’t making fun of you BECAUSE you were playing Pokemon……they were making fun of HOW you were playing Pokemon……sheesh now I’ve heard it all. Would that make them even bigger nerds than the average nerd do you think? lol Like come on man…..You should have chased after them with a big stick hahahaha

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      • Oh no, they were playing too. They took the gym, though it wasn’t a big deal, it threw off the cycle and wasted some lucky egg time.

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        • Still sucky. I can’t say I like random people making fun of others for their interests, but people that make fun of others that have the SAME interest annoys me more. Like what makes them so great? They’re still f’ing nerds driving around playing Pokemon. Someday they’ll likely get what’s coming to them lol

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          • These types of players make me appreciate our little community more. I’m glad that we have a place where we can share our hobby and not be ridiculed for what we do. Thanks everyone for making this such a great place! 😀

    • In addition, you shouldn’t put a Pokemon with an inappropriate name in a gym because younger children could very easily see it.

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    • Ugh.

      This is why I hate people like this. First they make fun of people for playing pokemon. Then they make fun of you for playing pokemon wrong. EXCEPT YOU’RE NOT WRONG. You are playing the way you want to play and that’s fine!!!

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      • Believe me I’m not hurt at all, I’m just worried that these types of players will hurt someone, so it needs to stop. Plus, if they’d’ve even known what we were doing, they’d’ve known that this was a good strategy to level up (or maybe they’d find something else to make fun of lol).

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      • Likely. Not to be assuming, but they didn’t look like they exactly fit the bill of a Pokemon fan (this sounds like stereotyping but still).

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          • Even the genwunners. On one the first days, my brother and I were out, and we walked by some men, and one muttered to the other “at least this was our generation. I bet they play the new games.” They laughed at us, so I said “hey you’re missing out”, and they snickered and went away. I feel like a bunch of genwunners are playing too, which is great, until they make fun of gen 2-7.

          • Tell me about it. Everyone praises it for being so great because it was the first game, but aside from that, the only one that’s worse is gen 6.

          • I disagree. There only like two Pokemon I dislike from gen 6. Gen 5’s designs had some crappy ones.

          • If we’re talking about Pokemon designs alone, gen 6 was phenomenal, but the generation as a whole was not great.

          • I’m replaying x and I’m trying to not feel too old for the game. It’s hard sometimes.

          • Grrrr…. This is another thing that makes me mad… I hope they add gens 2-7 quick to make people understand gen 1 is not the best.

    • The experience gain from that is kinda low compared to walking around in a 5-minute route around various Pokestops. Or catching tons of weedles, caterpies and pidgeys then evolve them all at once with a Lucky Egg up.

      Though for sitting around in the same place, it is pretty good.

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  79. While we wait, I wanted to ask another commenter related question. If you had to assign some of the commenters on pokejungle to become a gym leader based on their personality or any number of factors, what would their type be?

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  80. I would’ve been perfectly okay with the new pokemon go update if they had allowed pokevision to stay up and it would’ve been a lot better if they had communicated with their fans

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  81. Alright I’m going to bed, my day sucked since I had no internet all bleeping day
    Hopefully I’ll wake up at 8:55 and be ready for info

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  82. Maybe they’re holding off on the announcement of some types because they’re starter secondary typings.

    We have Dark and Ice with 0 Pokemon revealed so far, and Ground and Fighting with 1 Pokemon revealed so far. (Well there’s Dragon too with 1, but I doubt any starter will be assigned Dragon type unless it’s a Mega.)

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  83. I am pretty sure an Ice type is gonna be revealed tomorrow, or at least in CoroCoro since the South Island is planned to be explained, and the South island has the ice area. Hopefully it’s an offensive Ice type! Ice type is NOT a defensive type, GameFreak, so stop trying it!! I have always wanted a snowman pokemon. Maybe something like Chilly from Kirby (http://www.kirbysrainbowresort.net/info/anime/characters/hnm/chilly.jpg )
    What type of ice types would you guys like to see?

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    • LOL ummm I’m pretty sure that since there the ones that MAKE the games, they’re the ones that get to decide weather or not Ice type is defensive, or offensive. 🙂

      But yeah, I would like to see a wolf ice type, and possibly a snow leopard. Or perhaps, sticking with the Hawaiian theme how about an ice rodent? 🙂

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      • I mean I guess, but since Ice is only resistant against itself AND it has 4 weaknesses (2 of which common), I think it’s pretty safe to say it’s not built to be offensive. They may want it defensive but it doesn’t work that way for it.

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    • I know this is a late reply to this question, but i’d like to see an ice/fighting peacock. I think that’d be super beautiful.

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    • I would love it if we get an updated the chart along with the new ice type that they hopefully reveal. Because I think it would be awesome if they buff ice. Give it maybe resistance to dragon and water…. And also maybe super effective against bug….

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  84. well guys this is it,I can see the Pokemon train station up ahead,once we enter into the station there’s no turning back! XD

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  85. I did it guys! I beat Omega Ruby using a team of Pokemon I’ve never used before.
    Grumpig
    Masquerain (My e4 MVP. She swept Steven)
    Sceptile
    Tentacruel
    Hariyama
    Skarmory

    Overall I liked all of them except for Hariyama

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  86. Guys!!! I’m so ready for this even if I was here for the sun and moon hype only a few times and not like in the x and y hype but I’m here!! ??????oh by the way, I’m team pooplio but if he’s the mermaid then maybe row left but so far it’s pooplio!!!?

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  87. *the winds blow through the mountains* well guys this is it,the day is today,the first day of August,more information on Pokemon sun and moon is around the ben! 😀 will somebody be so kindly is to make some cool Japanese or sun rising ambience so we can have something cool for the ultimate day!XD

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  88. I swear this happens every time
    I wanted to wake up at 8 and what happens I wake up at 5AM

    Screw you biological clock

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