Pokémon Black & White were released five years ago today in Japan (September 18, 2010) and served as an almost reboot of the series in a sense. The games only featured newly introduced Pokémon until the player defeated the Elite 4 and also introduced 2D sprites which were constantly in motion during battle.
What were your favorite memories from the games? Anything you think should have been done differently looking back?
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Just one more thing i’d figure i’d just toss out there
The original dragon will never be unless convoluted time travel mechanics
and besides if the Dragon doesn’t split apart the whole lore of the Unova Region falls to pieces
You don’t know that
Something could happen
Who knows what the future holds, certainly not you
Original Dragon Episode confirmed for Black and White remakes
No i do know, because the twin brothers used the Original Dragon to create the Unova region but they sought different goals and had their own perspective Truth and Ideals
unable to side with the brothers the Dragon split apart and battled the other but were evenly matched until they just declared that a just solution could be settled
but the sons of the hero restarted the fight and fire and lightning ravished the region
So after such a long and violent battle the dragons will never reunite
Also fusing back together might be difficult since Kyurem is a factor of the balance of the power being the leftover energy
and there’s the possibility of the “Re-Fusing Immunity Phenomenon” that being apart too long will reject the other half
But like i said unless we get some kinda crazy lore changing time travel i don’t think we’ll ever see the Original Dragon for a long time
If I’ve learned anything by playing Pokémon, it’s that GameFreak likes to bend their own rules and ideas.
Feh that’s just lazy
that kinda attitude allows them to just do whatever they want
Which they do.
Because they make the games.
Not you.
One of the best generations for me.
Interesting types for Elite 4, love their designs (Grimsly… <3 ) and concepts( apart from Marshall…)
Legendaries' designs were perfect, absolutely how they should have been. Reshiram is such an angelic beast, I'll love it forever.
Some shallow criticisms which would have improved the legendaries for me.
I felt the fire and lightening aspects were distracting. I understood the point, old vs new energy idea, but the red and blue colours in their design was unless scary for me. Would have preferred if they were both dragon, or dragon psychic(Resh) and dragon steel. (Zek)
I was also surprised how small they were, I felt they'd be bigger. The story line is good, but I wish R+Z had more purpose than helping an ambitious hero out once in a while, feel their special abilities could have been developed a bit more, eg they're existence gives things in the world contrast, both are needed for the world to function, so things have their opposites, matter antimatter, dark light
On the other hand, the kyurems didn't do Reshiram or Zekrom justice in terms of design, but the concept was okay(ish).
Starters first forms are the best for me, I loved all 3 for tangible and intangible reasons. Snivy's sass, te pigs cuteness, it's orb tail and black marks, and owhawotts oddness and snow cone head( so weird, so authentic, but it just worked).
But then came their evos…. Emboar was a little too manly( fire beard, really?!) again a bipedal fire starter, again fire fighting, plus it looses the cool orb on its tail to a hairy blob. Otherwise design is fine( apart from weird teeth rather than tusks. Samurott was too different to oshawott for me, I wanted it to keep its colour scheme and rounded head. Also annoyed they changed its species. Pokemon try too hard to surprise. Serperior was fine, but lacked anything too interesting for me. Feel it's design could have been darker and more feminine. Also don't like how snivy looses its legs( as I said, shallow shallow shallow).
Bianca was a wonderful character, as was eberyone. But team plasma in particular were highlights, as well as the interesting structure of elite 4 and Ns palacw.
Love castellia! Otherwise region was boring.
Non box set legends were ugly, apart from Virizion etc.
All new Pokemon good, favourites include Zebstrika, Zoroark, Vaniluxxe, Bisharp, gothitelle, sawsbuck.
It was quite unique, most of which I thoroughly enjoyed. Pretty good storyline, a lot of new Pokémon, and you had two rivals. The music was pretty amazing. N (to an extent) and Ghetsis were great antagonists. Most of the Gym Leaders were memorable. The variety of places were great and the way they looked, too. Wild Double Battles by yourself were also a great, new feature. Battling Nurses and Doctors were also a good thing because after they could heal your Pokémon. I had mixed feelings about the way Strength worked. I appreciated that after you used it and got the boulder in the proper hole that it would stay there, but I had some nostalgia from the boulders going back to their original place and having to move them again, and in the strangest way, I missed that. I didn’t like some of the new Pokémon because of what they were based on and not really natural looking. While the Elite Four were esthetically pleasing and good characters, I didn’t like that they only had four Pokémon as opposed to five and were’t in the traditional format (each getting increasingly difficult). Same with the rivals, as they didn’t have five or six Pokémon when you battle them on the way to/within/immediately after Victory Road. Also, you didn’t get to battle the Champion until the post-game. And for whatever reason, I really didn’t like Pinwheel Forest or the route leading up to it.
My favorite things from BW were Mistralton City, Village Bridge, Drayden, Skyla, Shauntal, Caitlin, Black City, the introduction of the Rocky Helmet, and the evolution lines of Deino, Snivy, Larvesta, and Panpour.
Edit: Oh, and Professor Juniper and Reshiram
Just a quick question in B2W2 which gym theme did you like the most?
I liked Marlon’s, Roxie’s, and Skyla’s the most.
But Cheren has to trump them because it was just a battle ground
No I mean the Music of each gym
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-VQ5-UWm0s
Oh. Skyla.
I liked Clay’s the most.
Clay’s
1.Burgh(sophistica)
2.DILF Drayden(epica)
3.Elesa(give me what I ne-e-e-e-d)
Drayden was the only attractive guy in BW…
Elesa’s.
200%.
Draydens because of that awesome maze.
I actually ended up liking it a bit more than B2/W2 even though they are the superior games. All the pokemon were really neat and I thought having 150+ completely new pokemon and only those pokemon made me want to try out the newer guys. I think that was something I didn’t like about X and Y. Half of my pokemon were from other regions. I also really like Team Plasma. They brought up the ethics of these games and I never really thought about it before. Great games!
I never did understand what the plasma part of the name was for…
when you remove everything from a cell all you have is Plasma
ergo they wanted to remove Pokemon from Humans
The Smash Bros. Fighter Ballot ends on the very specific date of October 3rd 2015. I think we’ll be getting a Nintendo Direct on that Monday, October 5th. I even think it will include the reveal of Pokemon Z. What do you guys think?
Hmmmm
I think if they do announce a new pokemon game, it would be in a pokemon direct, not in a nintendo direct, but I do think a smash direct will be after that, and will show the winner(s) of the ballot
They did reveal Fairy type at E3 2013. That was a huge piece of information too. The only reason why I think that this scenario will happen is because Pokemon has been hyping up an announcement for a long time now. It just so happens that this coincides with the timing of the Smash Ballot. It would make lots of sense to put both of these into one Direct.
Yea on second thought you could be right
No need to make a whole smash direct just for a fighter or two so an announcement could be coming in october
I know one thing, if a game announces I hope it comes out Early year (before school next year starts)
If they revealed these Zygarde forms and still leave the announcement for early-mid next year, they’ve officially gone insane.
100% agree. They’re actually insane if they drag this out any longer.
Worst reveal ever
Shovel Knight in smash.
Also, I voted for magikarp, like, 8 times so. Magikarp for smash also.
I feel like a new game will be announced in October. Based on the NX rumor I posted a while back; it said Directs will resume in October. So, I’m guessing that the next game will be announced then. Plus, Nintendo has a new president; so they have someone to present the information. Anyways, I can’t wait to see the next game! (Also, Masuda debunked the name Pokemon Z).
Generation V was the best gen in my opinion.
I didn’t like much of the pokemon,but their designs were distinctive and sorta different fron the previous gens which I liked,I loved the story,team plasma and all the different characters.
Black and White was a step in the right direction for pokemon,they felt like a new beginning and then gen 6 came and dropped everything that made gen 5 good
Agree. Gen 5 did have a lovely deep complexity to it that was missing in Gen 6. I suspect this was because all the time and effort went into making XY ‘pretty’ in 3D. This probably accounts for the lack of new Pokemon too.
I’m hoping in the next game or Gen 7 (whichever comes first) GF will be more comfortable in the new territory and can focus on giving us a really superb multi-layered game again. ORAS was already a step up from XY in terms of content, and in such a short window too. I’m hopeful that with a marriage of looks and gameplay, the next games will be the best Pokemon games ever!
Gen V? Well, I liked it, then got bored of it, felt that Pokemon got a bit stale at that point, then disliked it, now I think it’s meh.
Also, now thinking about it, didn’t Gen V introduce Triple Battles? What if the way to fuse Zekrom, Reshiram and Kyurem into the Original Dragon is to have the three of them in a triple battle? Would be interesting to see them take advantage of a mechanic they introduced that very gen into the future remake’s storyline.
I liked it until it started getting colours.
Loved the games, but…. THOSE GOD DAMN PIXELS……
I thought BW was okay, but I thought BW2 was amazing! I love unova link, the flashbacks, and just seeing how every thing changes over 2 years. I just loved how for one time since gen 2 the games are connected.
I love how everyone is talking about “old you” like a legend, how everyone is wondering where “old you” is gone and they tell “new you” remind them “old you”.
wut
I thought Black & White was really refreshing. It really brought anew to the series.
– Just completely using new Pokemon was a neat idea. We didn’t have to depend on our old favorites.
– Team Plasma’s ideals and story was different from many villains.
– The graphics were my favorite out of the DS games. Having taller sprites, more 3D models, and animated Pokemon sprites really helped shape the game.
– It had some amazing music too. Personally, I like B2/W2 OST more; but B/W doesn’t fail when it comes to quality.
– The C-Gear revolutionized the connects for battles. It also paved the way to the PSS.
– Also, the region being based on the US was neat. New York feel felt great!
Honestly, I enjoyed 5th Generation more in B2/W2. Still, B/W really deliver what the series needed.
The games haven’t been the same since Gen 5. Im losing interest in them quickly
If you are bored and wanna do something pokemon related take this quiz
http://www.sporcle.com/games/g/pokemon
Naming the original 151 try not to cheat
(I got 130/151 and forgot Rattata, raticate, jigglypuff, wigglytuff, slowpoke, slowbro, grimer, muk, shellder, cloyster, drowzee, hypno, cubone, marowak, chansey, kangaskhan, goldeen, seaking, pinsir, lapras, porygon)
i can’t believe u did all of this too much man .
Took 3 tries (and a tiny bit of cheating) but I did it! 2 minutes left!
What you get on the first try
106 ._.
135
142!
IMHO they are THE PERFECT Pokemon games – yes I know thats quite a statement but even if you discount personal preferences it logically makes sense. They were the culmination of 15 years of Pokemon games. The developers had so much experience at that point that BW was a combination of everything good from previous games and the removal of anything unsavoury. By this logic you would think that XY are the best then, but XY have changed the face so radically that in many ways its like the devs are starting from scratch. For example Mega-evolution has thrown the metagame into the worst imbalance its been in since Garchomp was unchecked in DPP. Similarly, you can tell they’re still uncomfortable with 3d, the colour palette is overly intense and the world still exists in 90 degree angles. This is in steep contrast to the excruciating detail and visual spectacle of Unova. That being said, there are some people who only care about whats new fresh in the generation and for them BW didn’t have THAT much new (seasons and Dreamworld are about it) – it even had to share the DS with DPP – so they are the main detractors. Still its the ultimate perfection in Pokemon so far, if you were to look at all the games “in a vacuum”.
I disagree, I think the meta is currently in its most balanced state yet. Fairies may be a tad bit overpowered currently but give it time and it’ll be fine. Megas, I think, actually helped balance the meta, although I was one that initially feared it’d be stupidly broken.
Did you watch this years Worlds !?!? http://www.pokemon.com/us/play-pokemon/worlds/2015/teams/masters/#team-shoma-honami-japan-world-champion
The teams actually sickened me when I was watching some of the battles – like they were all exactly the same and there was no uniqueness what so ever.
Yeah, I’m aware. That’s just more of a lack of creativity rather than Pokemon being broken to be honest. There’s many many more competitively viable Pokemon, people just don’t want to take the chance and go with the “proven” Pokemon, it’s not a matter of being overpowered.
Its not a matter of creativity – somebody won the world championships with a Pachirisu of all things last year. Thats not even UU or RU, that thing is NU. The top players out there are incredibly skilled and have to be creative but they just don’t have a choice in this metagame anymore (this year they opened up to non-kalos pokemon as opposed to 2014 worlds).
Smogon Tiers should never be used for VGC btw
I never said Smogon should be used for VGC … and honestly thats all just empty words – Its easier said than done. Its like me saying “oh pigs can fly – they’re just not trying hard enough”.
They do have a choice but why try harder make a more “unique” team when you can do just as good/ or even better with other pokemon?
The pokemon are by no means OP, but instead just a better choice than a lot of other pokemon
So your saying Mega Kang isn’t Broken?
or the annoying powerhouse that is Therian Landorus
Or the ever common Heatran
Lol. Landorus isn’t that bad. A Mega Camerupt’s Fire Blast OHKO’s it. Same with almost any ice beam. The only issue is Mega Kangaskhan.
Unova is home to my favorite Ghost, Dragon, and Psychic types. I still think the designs are Serperior to the other gens.
Elgyem, the paranoid android <3
Actually Gothitelle, but I like those too.
So many awesome Ground Types
I cannot express this enough, Unova gave me my soulmate and his Name is Excadrill
Excadrill was the very first major capture in my Pokemon Career that i could remember, because growing up i never raised many Pokemon outside Starters and my Lopunny; always just catching higher level Pokemon instead of raising, but Drilbur was my first i truly cared for, I spent a whole hour in Wellspring cave looking for one and then i caught a lone male Drilbur and made it a permanent Pokemon on my Unova Team and he was by far my strongest
Words cannot express the sheer love i possess for this Pokemon
Rhyperior is also very close in my heart (coincidentally they both are based on Drills) but Excadrill has won me so many battles with his massive power and lightning speed
It brings tears to my eyes…..
I gotta admit Excadrill is pretty awesome. It’s prolly one of my favorite Pokemon all around
I love Excadrill. I don’t care for Drilbur but Excadrill is one of the best Ground type designs imo. It’s great in battle too.
Brilliant games. I truly enjoyed them!
Black and White is #2 for me but nothing will beat DPP on my end. My first game, my first shiny, and my fav pokemon (Infernape and Giratina)
http://nintendoeverything.com/pokemon-ceo-talks-pokemon-shuffle-pokken-tournament-pokemon-super-mystery-dungeon-future/
An interview with Ishihara about the future of Pokemon, among other things. He says “services such as on the NX with a large emphasis on cloud service”. Very interesting indeed. We’re probably not going to get a Pokemon game on the NX, but it seems that we could get a Pokemon Bank-like service on there. Opinions?
Since the NX seems more than likely to be an ecosystem, Pokémon will surely come to the NX. Maybe this will be the first time we’ll get a shared handheld/console game?
You’re my religion. When I’m down on my knees, you’re how I pray.
I have a feeling the NX will be a home console/handheld integrated hybrid. Kinda like the PS4 and Vita. Only with good games. You would be able to stream and play the handheld games on the home console and vice versa. The home NX would be the “cloud” for your home console’s games.
Ah. This is really going with the rumor I posted a while back. We know that GameFreak is against making console titles, so it really does seem like the NX will be a handheld and a console. As @daedardus:disqus said; it’s going to be a connective ecosystem among devices. I seriously can’t wait for 2016. It seems like the NX will share the relationship of the PS4 and Vita as @defensivebastiodon:disqus said but better.
Exciting times are ahead. I say that the latter half of this year is the calm before the storm. The storm being the resurgence of Nintendo as a whole. Perhaps it will take a while to get used to the changes, but I’m more than willing to see what happens.
I don’t like the thought of nx 🙁
Only because i just got a wiiu and can’t buy a new home system next year 🙁
From the rumor I posted awhile back… It said the handheld NX would release in late 2016 and the console might release in late 2017. So far the rumor has been right. So, this might be true.
I better get a New 3DS sooner rather than later then. The 3DS was a special system that I will never forget. There are so many games that I missed that I’ll have to get in the future.
With that NX rumor… I might hold on getting it. Still, I love the form factor and better 3D of the system. It actually might be my Christmas Gift of this year!
So….. If you like Gravity Falls, then you’re probably interested in this comment.
So I’m doing a Gravity Falls party for Omega Ruby. I have (Spoiler alert of you haven’t been watching season 2.) Floette for Mabel, Ludicolo for Soos, Ninjask for Stan, Shedinja for Ford(I did that because they are the same, but I dont want to do that for Dipper and Mabel) and Siglyph for Bill. I need Dipper. Pls help and tell me if you have any suggestions to make the others better.
Hmmmmmm
i see
Treecko or Grovyl as Dipper
Skitty as Mable
Either Ludicolo or Grumpig for Soos
Dusclops for Grunkle Stan with Dusknoir for Ford
Bill is tricky maybe *Shudder* Sableye
and lastly I guess Medicham or Zangoose for Wendy
Thanks. I don’t need Wendy tho. Also I don’t need Dipper to be a starter.
Sableye is 2 spoopy 4 u
Well, You could do Dustox and Beautifly for Dipper and Mabel respectively but Floette works better for Mabel. Maybe the Abra line for Dipper? And technically Stan and Ford aren’t the same. Different people, but both brothers. Sigilyph for Bill is great. XD
I decided to do toxicroak for Dipper, but thanks anyway. Oh yeah. You know what move I’m giving Bill immediately without even thinking about it…….. Wait for it…………………………..GRAVITY! Ha get it because Gravity Falls.
Did u watch the new episode of Gravity Falls, I guess you could say its pretty handy DANDY. (Ship name for Dipper and Candy and also a very clever pun.) (I’m not a shipper tho)
I actually just finished it. No where near as good as the unicorn one lol
https://mobile.twitter.com/Shigeru_Ohmori/status/644450662529368064
Interesting comment from Ohmori on Twitter confirming that we will get a main game release in 2016. He does point out that next year is Pokemon Red and Green’s 20th anniversary, but I’m not sure if it’s alluding to remakes. There’s a slim chance that the new Zygarde forms WILL be anime-only, and therefore leave next year for Gen 7 or Kanto remakes. This would explain that slide shown during the Pokemon GO reveal, and also why it’s taking them so long to reveal the next games. I say that if nothing is revealed in October, we can start looking towards Gen 7 or something else.
Which part of this tweet confirms we will get a main game release in 2016, please? I only see him talking about PSMD, GO, and the anniversary, and asking us to stay tuned (although I’m using Google Translate which is crap, lol)
He says to expect big things for 2016 while addressing the anniversary of Red and Green. This is separate from Pokemon GO in the tweet.
I only want kanto remakes if we also get a different game in the same year. We’ve been to that region too many damn times. I’ll gladly take a sequel set after the events of HG/SS though.
This is what I expected. Gen six is being left in the dust since it was so bad. I suspected the Zygarde forms would be only in the anime, but “before anywhere else” makes it sound like we’ll get them at some point…
That’s the only thing that throws my theory off. It clearly makes it seem as though the formes will appear in a game.
Hmm… Maybe a new game where you can travel to Hoenn & Kalos? Honestly, anything could happened at this point. I still think were going to get a game with Zygarde. The Pokedex of X/Y & OR/AS eludes to it. Still, it’s Trollfreak. We will never know!
Would be cool if they made a Zygarde focused game where we could go to Kanto as part of the after game. (I know, I’m getting tired of Kanto too, but it would appeal to some people and would fit the 20th anniversary thing)
U kno what? I think I’ve come to terms that we may not get a “normal” final game in Gen 6. It saddens me that the Kalos region got such a crappy reception and was basically used to cater to Kanto, but I suppose I can get over that if the next games r good in their right.. *sigh*…..poor Kalos………..
Ew Kanto haven’t we had enough torture? ;-;
You don’t wanna visit everyone’s FAVORITE region a sixth time?
Racist to Kanto but yeah. I’m sick of kanto
Racist against being lazy?
I haven’t played Pokémon in the longest time…
I just have no idea what to do in it.
Thankfully I can play Happy Home Designer all weekend!
I’m taking a break from Pokemon. The last time I played Pokemon was during the summer (I played Omega Ruby for the second time #Torchic). Currently, I’m playing Bravely Default. After that, I’m planning on playing Mario & Luigi: Dream Team Bros. When I return to Pokemon, I plan to play Pokemon White ironically.
Sometimes we need to take some break to feel like a virgin again.
Somtimes I break is whats best
Funny. I’ve been playing New Leaf instead of Pokemon. I don’t understand the point of the damn game. There’s nothing to do.
There’s always something to do in Animal Crossing.
It just seems that you’re a bit impatient, that’s all.
You’re not going to do everything you want to in one day. I’ve been playing in my town for over a year and I’m still improving on it.
Yeah. *always* something to do, like sell fish or bugs or fruit. -_-
Which you could then use those bells to perfect your town with public works projects and any furniture available to you.
WHAT ELSE AM I SUPPOSED TO FUCKING DO WITH THEM. THATS ALL THERE IS IN THE GAME. THATS ALL IVE BEEN DOING SINCE I BOUGHT IT LAST MONTH.
Is there a reason that you bought a game where your creativity is key yet you’re impatient af?
I started to like it after playing Black 2 and White 2
I feel like I played b/w more than b2/w2
And for the most part in 2 I was in pokestar studios LOL
Lol I marathoned Pokestar and just spent most of my time in PWT
I always play the first games more(no matter how worse they are compared to fututre games) only because its a whole new generation. Like for example, BW I spent so much time trying to find an catch all the unova mons and explore everything in the game. In BW2 though, I would say had much more fun playing than BW, however, not trying to catch every single mon. I spent most of my time in the PWT and Black CIty.
Sorry. This is waaaaaaay off topic. I’m so sorry, but does anyone play Destiny?
I really hope we don’t go back to Kanto again, unless it’s a Post-Game thing. GameFreak can be VERY creative at times, but it seems after Gen 5 they’ve been relying on nostalgia a lot. I get that Red and Green were the games that started it all, but c’mon.
Yeah, I would be totally fine with post game. Or who knows, maybe Kanto being involved in the plot somehow in the next game. But I want the next game to be about Zygarde. They can’t leave us with just the anime.