Pokémon Bank and Hacked Pokémon

pokejungle’s note: We do NOT condone hacking Pokémon, views expressed in this article are solely those of the writer. Any links to hacking sites or software will be removed in the comments. This article is for discussion about the topic only and is not meant in any way to encourage activities which are contrary to the way GameFreak has designed.

Many individuals speculated upon the initial release of Pokémon Bank was that the reason why it was delayed for so long was that it A.) had a ridiculous server load and B.) Didn’t come close to stopping hacked ‘mons. Well, Game Freak finally released it in the west with some impressive results; the servers run (relatively) smooth and there are plenty of checks to block hacked Pokémon from entering. Does it work? Yeah, and it does a decent job. Is it perfect? Far from it.

Why I Hack

I’m a Pokemon hacker. Yes, I admit it. I’ve been hacking ‘mons since the days of Ruby and Sapphire (I only played the rom and never owned a GBA). I’ve never had events readily available until recently, so Pokémon like Deoxys and Darkrai were never in my PC box. Having all three starters was a far stretch of a possibility, as was filling the Pokédex by the means of trading. I used Action Replays and (only recently) programs like Pokégen to experiment with teams and play with some of the more elusive Pokémon in-game. Never have I hacked abilities, moves, and IVs to create some impossible Pokémon to abuse online. I just do it for the fun solo gaming experience and to test out some new teams combinations without the time constraint that often plagues EV training and move breeding.

When Pokémon Bank announced that they would block hacked Pokémon from their servers, I was a bit distressed. How will I manage to obtain the starters without spending time replaying old games and stalking the trade boards? What about all of the cool events that I’ve missed in the past like Shaymin and Keldeo? I immediately started searching online just to see how well this hack blocking worked. If there’s a will, there’s a way, right?

The Hacking Check

It turns out that there is a hacking check in Transporter and in Bank. If you try to transfer a hacked Pokémon like, say, a Shiny Chimchar with perfect nature and maxed out IVs, it will probably be flagged because the chances of obtaining one of that quality are outstandingly low (obviously hacked abilities and moves sets that the original Pokémon can’t learn will be flagged as well). However, if you decide to be modest with the IVs, maybe forego the shiny coloring and tweak the the location / date met, it’ll probably bypass the check. It’s a bit tricky, especially with event Pokémon, but there are sites out there like Pokédit and programs such as Pokégen that have special event Pokémon that are specifically built to bypass any anti-hacking programs. And, as far as I know, these Pokémon can be used online in battles. I haven’t tested these boundaries fully, but I have used a hacked event Meloetta in an online battle to see if it would work, and it passed through easily.

Exceptions

The chances of getting a shiny with perfect stats is low, but not impossible, right? This is a problem that the few lucky trainers out there have been experiencing. I’ve been carousing a few message boards for information and theories of how the hack check works and have found a number of individuals who actually did receive a perfect shiny starter. They did legitimately catch that Shiny Modest Kyogre and it did happen to have amazing IVs. Well, Pokémon Bank flagged their precious teammates as hacked when they were apparently legitimate. I don’t know how honest those few people are, but I recall reading more than one incident of legit Pokémon not being able to be transferring. I suppose that Gamefreak needed to add a no-exception policy as to rule out the numerous hacks out there that ruin the delicate balance of the game. Unfortunately, this does affect those very small few who were actually lucky enough to obtain these excellent Pokémon legitimately. I guess Gamefreak was willing to make this sacrifice. From the looks of it, the fans haven’t been too horribly upset as it seems like a lot of them were only transferring these Pokémon for the sake of transferring them and don’t actually use them in battle, but I’m sure it’s pissed off its share of players.

So, to put it simply, Gamefreak makes a solid attempt to limit the amount of hacking that has overrun the late Pokémon games, but in the end it still exists. It will probably always exist – with new technology comes new loopholes for people to discover and exploit. Hopefully these loopholes will not affect the metagame too much, but I do appreciate the additional accessibility that these sites and services provide!

What do you think about hacking? For it? Against it? Leave your (constructive) feedback below with your personal opinion.

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2,369 thoughts on “Pokémon Bank and Hacked Pokémon”

  1. I’m BIG on Manipulation.

    Gen 5 I learned how to RNG, which is the only method of obtaining high-IV’d legit shinies without the use of a device. You didn’t have to connect anything to your DSi to abuse your game, you just used a program called RNG Reporter that told you when to power up your game and encounter the seed. I never purchased an action replay or used one but I’m sure its not hard.

    The only time I ever once hacked is getting illegal HA pokemon over to XY since Nintendo have been hanging on to them for a while. Ala Sheer Force Dile/Contrary Snivy. Besides that, its impossible to hack anything else-XY and the games provide you with easy methods to RNG easier now – with destiny knot/friend safari etc.

    Everything feels much rewarding when you hatch/encounter it or trade for something legit on your own. 120+ Shinies with pentagon and counting! 🙂!

    EDIT: Wow, cool to have first comment!!

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    • I’ve been reading about RNG being used, especially for XY these days. It’s an interesting concept, but I think that it would constitute as a form of “hacking” to a degree!

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        • If you got that 6IV Ditto legitimately through Friend Safari or WildWild then no, using Destiny Knot is an in game method. If you are RNGing that 6IV ditto that is not legitimate and is a form of abuse/hacking. destiny knot is an item to help assist with the breeding scene added by GameFreak. RGN is third party. If you’re lucky enough to get that 6IV that congrats but its hacking no matter which way you look at it as far as RNG is concerned.

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          • RNG isn’t a third-party application, it’s the way computers emulate luck. Hacking is altering the game’s code to do something unintended. RNG manipulation is exploiting the game’s own mechanics with no outside influence other than you pressing the buttons on your game system.

            An example of this is that you can start a new game on HeartGold on a specific frame that will give you the exact ID to win a Master Ball at the lottery and also give you a decent IV Cyndaquil.

    • I honestly love hacking. Now making “monsters,” that’s the hacking I hate. But, high IV, already EV trained and maybe some hard to get moves, that’s the kind i can handle. Maybe competitive ready shinies too or missed legendaries, but that’s it haha.

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  2. ammy, you here? gg!

    also interesting article! I’m not too sure how i feel about hacked pokemon when it comes to online battling since, for years, i only had them for fun then pushed it aside. so far, i only find it a problem when it deals with legendaries, but of course…theyre legendaries xD

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  3. I think it’s fine if it’s just used for single player purposes. You want to finish your pokedex and have a hacked Mew? Okay. Whatever.

    It’s when “Perfect” pokemon are hacked into the game for the purposes of online battling or even competition.

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  4. I think you should have a poll on what we think; if it is okay to generate perfect pokemon with 510 EV’s and legit moves and abilities for the sole purpose of not spending days on breeding. I personally think this is alright as long as they’re not shiny

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    • I actually have no problem with hacking in battle ready Pokemon.
      (PSA: Testing your team on Showdown is faster than hacking in a team then finding out it doesn’t work.)

      I don’t think “days breeding” is a fair assessment all the time. Here are my experiences:
      1. First 5IV in an egg group: 2 days. (With fast hatching mon e.g. Magikarp, plus Ditto Safari and 1 page of 2-3IV dittos.)
      2. Next 5IV in an egg group: 2 hours. (Maybe 3-4 hours if 12.5% gender ratio, or only replacing female due to gunning for a specific Pokeball design.)
      3. First parent with 4 egg moves: 1-3 hours. (12.5% gender ratio is a pain.)
      4. Getting 4 moves on Smeargle: 1 hour. 3 heart scales.
      5. Checking IV’s: 1 minute.
      6. Checking specific IV’s: 5-10 minutes, 1 soft reset.
      7. Getting hidden power or 6IV’s: 1-2 days AFTER #1 and #3or4.

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    • I disagree. There are hardcore players that spend those hours they put in to breed those perfect Pokémon. I myself was one of those people but I stopped because I got lazy. If those people can do it, what is stopping the hackers?

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      • I personally play against friends with pokemon I like, regardless of stats. Since the surge of competitive battling this gen, I decided to do so as well. I have never hacked but since realising the time consuming process of producing 5 iv pokemon (I have 4) I can understand why some would hack. But in a perfect world I would have hoped it was never possible to hack

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  5. Note that the chance of catching a 6x31IV in the wild is actually just the same chance as 6x0IV or 22/24/1/4/11/30 or any IV combination out there.

    I don’t think the Pokemon Transporter hack checker tracks Pokemon “quality”. It does consider other things like obvious mistakes (wrong ability, invalid move, underleveled evolution, born with an abnormal Pokeball) maybe even caught area/egg hatched area and level met. Legends are typically harder to hack in for this reason. You need to know parameters like these and whether the legendary in question is shiny locked. (Bulbapedia is a good source for location and level met data.)

    I tried doing it, I actually managed to slip in a genned 6IV Shiny Eelektross with 4 tutor moves on the first try. I stuck with correct ability, caught area and level met. I have yet to check if it can go online battling, or if it can be seen on the GTS by other users. I was able to trade it over the internet directly to a buddy though.

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    • See, I tried sending through a normal Snivy; no shiny, no crazy IVs, just a normal Snivy. Hatched in front of the daycare and proper parameters and all that stuff. For some reason, it was blocked. it’s so inconsistent!

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      • Yes, I can say I’ve had random things refused too, hacks or not. Like a totally legit random IV lv100 pick up Linoone. -_-

        This weekend I was able to transport a hatched Adamant 5IV Conkeldurr with Guts, 2 egg moves 2 tutor moves (obviously the set that everyone uses: Knock Off, Ice Punch, Drain Punch, Mach Punch).

        I don’t have access to the data right now, but lemme help out. I think the egg must be received from Day-Care Couple, met at Lv 5 (not 1), the Pokemon must be lv5 or up (higher if pre-evolved), hatched at wherever you desire (I always choose Skyarrow Bridge, love that place) and trash bytes should be Egg rather than Wild Encounter. Also if the generator has “fix PID”, be sure to enable that.

        Also, may I refer you to fake GTS I used, pokecheats.net – your results may vary.

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  6. I used pokedit to hack a crapton of Pokemon I didn’t have to complete my pokedex and literally every single one of them got through. Including a bunch of shiny starters with perfect IVs. I don’t battle online or trade with people so I don’t know if I’d be able to trade them/battle with them (and don’t really care) but IMO, the standards they use have to be pretty lax. The only thing that didn’t make it through was a regular Kyogre that I got from someone else years and years ago. It must not have been legitimate but I don’t know how to tell that for myself so I didn’t know, but it’s probably not good that I could fake up a bunch of Pokemon and the only thing that didn’t make it was a Kyogre that wasn’t made on Pokedit.

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  7. I have a lot of hacked pokemon to be perfectly honest. They are really for personal use, but the ones that could be gotten normally, I would use online/competitively if given the chance. I don’t mind hacking if it’s for legends you missed, or competitive ready shinies, or things like that. I do have my limits, but I can’t really put them into words (not good with words so..yeah haha).

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  8. I’ll admit, several times I’ve hacked shiny Pokemon like Patrat simply for the sake of tranferring and Wonder Trading, but that was just about making people happy. Would you have done that? I probably won’t do it any more.

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    • I did that with a mudkip, i went on tumblr, searched up shiny mudkip to see if anyone was trading theirs and i find a post that says “Just got a shiny mudkip from wonder trade!” That is an awesome feeling.

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  9. Much like Justin, I hack event pokemon from events that i missed. I used to have diamond when it came out but traded it in to gamestop when i got an R4. (Stupid idea, i was younger) I thought i wouldn’t need it anymore. All the other pokemon games i played were on roms. I honestly did not know if those pokemon would transfer or count as “Legit”. I’ve deleted save files many times to start a brand new adventure on these games. Recently, i hacked for the event pokemon to fill the remaining 10 spaces on my Pokedex because other people make them nearly impossible to obtain and my DS WI-FI never worked (I have B2 and X so i have no reason to hack for pokemon that are obtainable in both of those games). I’ve also only hacked one shiny which was a shiny mudkip named “Noel” It has 6 IVs and the right egg moves. I hacked this one to use as a placeholder for my swampert (Adamant with 5 IVs) as i forgot to breed in Wide Guard and needed to rebreed it, I was interested in MM-ing for a Shiny Mudkip. I’m not really big on hacking pokemon , it does annoy me slightly, but i do it sometimes. It feels much more rewarding to say that you’ve hatched this many eggs to get the perfect pokemon or to have a pentagon shiny that required you to spend hours using o-powers and IV breeding to make them competitive. Now that i have Pokemon X and good WI-FI , i will no longer miss events and have no reason to hack.

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  10. I learn’t how to hack my game in DP with an action replay but I wasn’t very interested in using it until I missed Shaymin. The reason I missed Shaymin is because I didn’t have WiFi at the time. Ever since then, I’d been using Action Replay to get Shaymin but no matter what, the game knew it was fake. But in X & Y that changed. No, I didn’t manage to get a fake one over, someone had somehow (I believe he cheated) gotten a lv 30 shiny Shaymin and he was kind enough to trade it to me. He also traded me a shiny lv 30 Deoxys (probably also cheated). I also cheated to get a lot a shinies in BW but I didn’t learn how to EV train Pokemon until BW2 so the game let me transfer them but I don’t really care about them as it’s quite easy to breed them now. Does anyone else have a story similar to this.

    P.S: On a different note, what is your favourite event Pokemon that you still have (not something like a normal event Darkrai or something similar)? My Favourite event Pokemon that I have at the moment is my two lv 5 Jirachi with Draco Meteor. Big W was having a event for HGSS and I had both so I got two.

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  11. Hacking never really bothered me, but yeah I see why people get upset with it. Not very rewarding getting pokemon through hacking imo tho. Anyways, how well do you think an Eviolite Adamant Zweilous w/ DD do competitively? Just a thought that occured to me while breeding for Deinos haha

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  12. I’m not
    against pokemon hacking. I myself hacked some pokemon. In my case I hacked only
    legendaries and event pokemon cause I did not have the opportunity to get Mew,
    Darkrai, Keldeo and others. The only ones I had were Celebi from PokeBank and
    Deoxys from BW2. So I hacked the other. I’m not against if people used hacking
    for personal use, just like event pokemon or fulfilling their pokedex. But for
    competitive use I’m totally against. Past year I saw so many times people with
    Shiny Latias/Latios, monstrous Landorus in competitive battle. I was innocent
    thinking “wow…. how much time these people spent to get those pokemon,
    They are crazy”. Some days after I realized they were all hacked. I felt
    it was just unfair as I lost a lot of battles for fake beasts like these. I
    spent much time training my pokemon. I’m not that good for competitive, but
    faking them to battle to defeat others, for me, is unfair. But as pokemonBank
    does not recognize all pokemon, these fake beasts will continue to appear.
    People should be conscious about that and not insert these pokemon in
    competitive battles.

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    • It effectively doesn’t matter if you use them in competitive battles or not because on top of noting allowing Pokemon with illegal moves and other things, Pokebank doesn’t let in perfect IV Shinies, so we don’t have to worry about that much.

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  13. I’ve hacked before when I was in middle school to get stuff like oaks letter and the azure flute. I’m a senior in HS now and I haven’t hacked since. Hacking is a terrible thing, and is the reason why we’re paying for it now.

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  14. When i was younger, my brother really wanted to get a gameshark because he thought it would be cool to get a level 100 typholosion and shiny charizard near the beginning of the game. (It’s cool and all but in the BEGINNING of the game?? That takes away all the fun)

    Around 6th grade, or so. Pokemon DPP was popular around my school and one of my friends showed me his Arceus and Shaymin that he got through action replay. I had never seen these pokemon before and i was shocked. My friend let me borrow the AR so i had fun walking through walls and obtaining my legendaries.

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  15. Even though I’ve hacked my share of Pokémon in Platinum, I haven’t transferred them to White and will never hack my game. Because, this is just my opinion, I believe hacking destroys the game (not literally). I think it ruins the spirit of the game and makes it too easy.

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  16. This article feels like one of those circles where people talk about their past and nod heads and clap. xD I honestly can’t remember what they’re called.

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          • Just asking because I’m not really a Hoenn fan but for how many years have you been hoping that they would remake RSE?

          • i dont really WANT one, id enjoy it. I got with the flow of gamefreak ideas. Hoenn is just my first region

          • Just saying but the most likely reason they remade both Gen 1 and Gen 2 is because people couldn’t transfer their precious Pokemon to the newest game and wouldn’t you feel betrayed if you had to suddenly had to start from scratch not matter what you had what if you were one of the lucky people who found a shiny Pokemon is Gold, Silver or Crystal? So Nintendo remade Gen 1 a year later after RS and probably remade Johto so much later on because it would keep fans entertained until the next game. Looking at Pokemon, Pokemon has only remade two generations and had good reason to.

          • The only reasons i can think of for Gen 3 to be remade are
            Fan Demand
            Those cutscenes that were very limited due to the GBA’s capabilities
            Or to introduce new mega evolutions/split evos/new pokemon.

          • Just pointing out another thing. I’m not a fan nor a hater of Hoenn but after not being able to transfer their Pokemon, people sort of hated mainly for that point. Sure Hoenn introduced Double battles, abilities and so much else but the fact is that the same additions could have been released in a different region. People also focus on how much water there is. it was a nice change in scenery but you essentially had to have a map out or keep looking at one to know where you were going most of the time and it did eventually got quite annoying. The thing I wish to point out here is that even though there can be people who like a region, there people who dislike that region for certain reasons.

          • I loved the Pokemon of Hoenn, the music and the story. All the water travel was kind of annoying, i agree. They might remake Hoenn because people don’t want to sit down transfer those to dpp, transfer those to bwb2w2 and then to X or Y.

          • I’d imagine they would remake the water routes with islands here and there on them as rest-stop like things and so that you don’t spend half of the game battling water types in the wild.

          • The islands could have other typed Pokémon. But if they do that, to keep with the balance theme of Hoenn, they would have to have lakes in the middle of the land routes.

          • Ever since BW2 when they finally released the Regis as legendary Pokemon after such a long time, Hoenn lost any unique Pokemon it once had. Latias and Latios in HGSS and BW2, Rayquaza, Kyogre and Groudon and almost every game still at least has some exclusive Pokemon like Johto still has Ho-oh and Lugia, DPPt has Dialga, Palkia and Giratina (Not counting events, only legendary in-game Pokemon). All of Unova’s and Kalos’ legendary Pokemon are still only exclusive to their games but only because they’re still quite new.

  17. Hello Everyone we got someone new day this is slip
    ” Hi im Slip and m addiced to hoenn”
    Slip we are here to cope our promblems is this a the first step to the bettter
    “everyone claps”
    So now Cindy hows ur progress?

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  18. Guys, today (10th) is my 18th birthday!!! I guess as a present, GF gave me Pokemon Bank and when I was tranferring yesterday my Mew went through! (I didn’t know if the Mew was legit or not as I got it from a friend)

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  19. I have hacked to get infinite master balls, just to catch pokemon on the spot, im a lazy shit :p That’s it, not into the whole hacking for ultimate stats on pokemon etc 🙂

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  20. With Pokemon Bank existing, i’m pretty sure Gen 4 will be the final remakes. Anything from BW to B2W2 can be transferred to X and Y and can exist in Pokemon Bank. The next games will be compatible with Bank and so Anything from Gen 5 you do not need to worry about. Gen 3 and Gen 4 take some more time to transfer. Could you imagine sitting and transferring from Gen 3 to Gen 7?

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  21. “They did legitimately catch that Shiny Modest Kyogre and it did happen to have amazing IVs. Well, Pokémon Bank flagged their precious teammates as hacked when they were apparently legitimate. I don’t know how honest those few people are, but I recall reading more than one incident of legit Pokémon not being able to be transferring.”

    This confuses me, if they were true, my Shiny Timid Lugia (I’ll recheck IVs in a moment) should not have passed the legitimacy test despite being legit. I think it’s safe to say those sob stories are bogus, at least to me.

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    • This is simply one story and one Pokémon that were transferred over thousands. Obviously I did not imply it being 100% – it is simply one instance of a random flag. The system is inconsistent with its “rules”, assuming it has any.

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    • I had a braviary that was legit not pass though the check. It didn’t even have good stats, and there was nothing special about it. I have no idea why it wouldn’t transfer, but it can happen.

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  22. To be frank, I would think that Game Freak sees only two problems with hacked legal Pokemon being transferred: they require minimal effort to be made, and shiny Pokemon are illegitimately numerous. Game Freak DOES indeed encourage players to use Pokemon with 5 or 6 perfect IVs, as evidenced by the Destiny Knot, the Friend Safari, and Pokemon that cannot breed always having at least three max IVs. Unlike Generation V where IV breeding was extremely difficult and likely not intended, X and Y have a much higher number of battlers who use perfect-IV Pokemon, and thus there are much fewer people who are at an unfair advantage. So, the only difference between generated legal Pokemon and legitimate legal Pokemon is the amount of work put into each. And for the record, I’ve tested the transfer of hacked Pokemon, and nothing legal was blocked for me so far.

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  23. I used to be 100% against hacking, but I actually just genned some Pokemon last night for the first time. I know it seems cheap and everything, but I can completely see why people do it. It’s not that hard at all. I easily hacked for all the Legendary Pokemon. I don’t think it’s too bad considering my only chance of completing the dex in X/Y is to hack or sit there and beg people for legendaries. Of course it’s not fair to just hack shiny flawless Pokemon though, as lots of people put in tons of time to get them the hard way. Anyways, here’s all that i hacked last night (about 50 total), and it only took me a little over an hour. Transferring them all later.

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  24. When I was younger, I played these games constantly up until 4th Gen. That was around the time that I “grew” out of Pokemon for a bit in terms of the physical games. For 4th and 5th Gen, I really only played the ROMs for them. I got rid of my GBA SP and DS, along with those games (Pokemon included). When I got back into it and went out and bought a DSi and 3DS and got the 4th and 5th Gen games, I was ecstatic. Now, you’re probably wondering why the hell any of this matters.

    The point is that when I got back into the games, I didn’t have any of my old Pokes to bring over, so I experimented with PokeGen and Pokedit. While I was lucky enough to have bought a Platinum off eBay that came with someone’s old save file they didn’t delete with most of the legendaries from the previous gens, I didn’t have them all. Using Pokedit, I downloaded the event Pokemon that have been offered in the USA 100% the exact way they were offered in the events. I’ve also used it to get some old Pokemon that I wasn’t able to attain that I just thought were cool and such.

    I personally don’t have an issue with PokeGen or Pokedit if it’s just to have legendaries you have missed out on, other event Pokemon, or just to get that one Pokemon that you could never get. However, I think it’s dumb if you do produce that 6 IV Pokemon that you’re too lazy to spend a couple hours breeding to get.

    Game Freak has made it unbelievably easy to get competitive Pokemon this Gen, so only lazy, uncommitted people are doing it. Competitive battling is about having fun and growing bonds with the team you spent hours and days creating, not a team that you took 20 minutes making with max everything and a godly move set.

    Thus, my rant ends.

    TL;DR: I’ve used hacking before to get certain Pokemon, but don’t condone it for competitive use because you’re extremely lazy and don’t really care about what Pokemon is based on: social interaction and fun.

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  25. And guess for the Topic at hand:
    Personally I don’t like Hacked Pokemon for a number of reasons
    1. Totally unfair if your planning to use it competitively, Cheating at its worst
    2. Hacking endanger your game’s life, if you hack your game and it breaks there’s no undoing it
    3. I know of the luxuries of having everything handed to you with the push of a button, But it ruins the sanctity and purpose to work hard to achieve greatness and if you cannot grasp that with any wisdom then get out of my sight

    And the most critical!
    4. It’s totally selfish and stupid, If you think your a great battler just because your “Pokemon” wins battles deep down it’s a damn bloody lie, I and a lot of good people work tirelessly to breed and raise Pokemon by hand while others lazily just take a mondo-Shortcut if we’re doing it the right way others should have to comply as well.

    I’ll admit I have owned an Action Replay or two in the Past but they’re decommissioned for good due to me almost losing everything in multiple occasions alone

    “I’m The EarthenWarrior and I disapprove of Hacking”

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  26. Are you against hacking? Yes i am, unless it’s for an GAMESTOP event. As some of you may know, i don’t live in north america so i can’t get those awesome shiny pokemon, so i see no problem in hacking a pokemon that was given in one of those events.

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  27. Speaking of not hacking, did you guys hear that I found a shiny Piloswine last night? Naughty and Oblivious! If you did…it may seem like I’m bragging, but I’m not! I promise.

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  28. Moral of the story is, to stay safe from hacks – make sure you’re only trading for Pokemon with the Pentagon in the summary. The pentagon shape means its a kalosian native, but its also a good indicator for a legit Pokemon because all the hacks come from gen 5 and no pokes from gen 5 will have the pentagon.

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    • I guess Max is a Hack anyway you look at it….
      But regardless I’m still counting it as a win since I rarely get anything Good from WT
      and even though it’s a 6IVer I already got a Japanese 6IV Ditto from Gangplank Style a while back

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      • ahh you already had one? I was gonna say.. even though its a hack you can still use it for breeding. I just got a shiny impostor ditto lvl 30 from friend safari but it only has 2IV’s… I use my regular 6IV Ditto that I RNG’d from gen 5 as my breeder.

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    • Well Gen 6 doesn’t have move tutor yet. Only thing that makes stuff from 5th Gen appealing. Granted, I’ve had to keep all the suspected hacks and non-Kalos pogeys on my Y game in case (in the very smaaaaallll chance) I have to attend a VGC with my X.

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      • true – but tutor moves, or pokes without the pentagon can’t enter VGC so gen 5 shinies are practically worthless IMO unless their legends…

        so when XY gets its expansion, or sequel, whatever they plan to do with it – they will surely release move tutors again making gen 5 even more devalued.

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  29. I dont care if you hack , as long as the hacks create a legit poke

    Its the legendary spammers, the Roar of Time Wurmples and the Drizzle Starmies that piss me off…

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  30. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
    I hate hacked Pokémon. They are extremely annoying to battle. Before Bank, I used to be exited when I fought trainers that weren’t from Japan because some of them had hacked. But now, with Bank, everyone has a hacked Pokemon and it is almost impossible for me to have a fair battle on the battle spot. The days that I do find legit battlers are the days I cherish.
    Note – The reason I know they hack is because they have tend to have a full team of shinies that seem to take at least no damage from my Mega Pokemon that have perfect IVs in Special attack and Attack. My Pokemon are all Kalos native and were bred in Kalos because I did not own the previous gen games.

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    • I battle with whole teams of shinies and I dare someone to say I hacked my 4 boxes of pentagon shinies.

      The reason their pokes aren’t taking the damage you predict is because every Pokemon has different defenses… your not going to do the same set amount of damage everytime LOL… Back in Gen 5 people used to have 252 evs on to all their stats, but Bank won’t let a Pokemon pass through if it has more than 510 EV’s! You just see a shiny and get paranoid. A palate swap does not effect a battle.

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      • The person I was referring to in that comment had hacked Pokemon. I know that all Pokemon have different defense stats. But for me to use super effective moves via a Mega Pokemon with perfect IVs in Attack and Special attack (Also maxed out EV for Special attack) and to only do 50 hp on a Pokemon with over 230 is beyond me.
        P.S. The person who I fought was a friend of mine and did tell me they were hacking. I have seen others on battle spot with illegal moves and abilities, how do they not get filtered?

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  31. I could care less for hacked Pokemon, to be honest. I don’t hack Pokemon myself and was never into it, but if ya wanna hack, that’s your problem buddy. 😛

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  32. I have a pokegen HA feraligatr, but that’s it. Just going to sit in my PC lol. At the end of the day people are still going to carry on hacking, but things would be a whole lot easier if Nintendo just released the abilities.

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  33. I don’t hack nor do I condone the practice. When I was about seven years old, my neighbor showed me his action replay and I used it to walk through walls and capture trainer’s pokemon. I found that entertaining. However, I don’t approve of hacking perfect or near perfect pokemon in any situation, as it eliminates one of the most fundamental elements of the game; the pursuit. The whole point of pokemon is to capture/breed and train your pokemon from the ground up, and in doing so form a “bond” that augments the sentiment of both victory and defeat. Obtaining ill-gotten victories with ill-gotten pokemon is a meaningless, shallow, and selfish endeavor, making competition unfair and difficult for an honest opponent.

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  34. I’ll admit I used to use action replay and still have it. But my use for it are gen 4 events like Darkrai and Shaymin, no, I am not “technically” hacking the Pokemon themselves, but I am hacking the item that activates the events. I don’t see much harm rather I see it as me being late to get a good thing that passed.

    Also I can’t believe they never released the Azure Flute! Talk about a waste of data. That item I definitely wouldn’t mind hacking to be honest and then Soft Resetting for a shiny Arceus! xD

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  35. With all this talk of hack it’s only a matter of time until we start seeing people with Diancies Hoopas and Volcanions
    And if Hoopas ability Impractical is true we’re going to be in trouble

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    • If Hoopa can be used in a way that it can shield itself when the Opponent attacks (AKA Protect) and uses Impractical to Null it’s Opponents Move then there’s virtually no way it can be countered unless one brings Mold Breaker or the Teras
      I doubt even Gastro Acid would work unless they don’t execute my Theory
      MADNESSS

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  36. pfft ya’ll think hoopa’s ability is broken…

    try Volcanion. his ability is like a super adaptability – its called “Steamed Up” which gives it a 40% boost to its STAB moves (mind you its water/fire typing) and gets the new moved “Steam Eruption” which is basically a Hydro Pump that can burn you.

    Diancie allegedly gets Shining Jewel which powers up special attacks if their aren’t any weather effects happening.

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  37. Diancie’s ability just ruins it, it could run around taking hits in the sandstorm but it won’t be able to bash out OP hits due to Shining Jewel not working in weather…

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  38. The only reason behind why Hoopa is so stupidly OP is this;

    the son of an employee at GF demanded that he wants the best pokemon

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  39. I don’t think even a Sucker Punch would work since It’ll use Protect the first turn, then Impractical activates then attacks, next turn uses Protect LIKE A ARCEUSDAMNED COWARD!!!!!!

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  40. Sorry if this is too much to ask for, but can I borrow a Lucky Egg from someone? I have to train 2 of my Pokemon, but I only have one Lucky Egg… I’ll give you a 4 IV Larvitar with 4 Egg Moves 🙂

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  41. I don’t mind hacking as long as people don’t use it to get an unfair competitive advantage. Personally, I only hack:
    -to not have to worry about past gen move tutors and legendaries
    -to make IV breeding slightly easier

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  42. To counter Hoopa:

    Data known:
    -Ability: Impractical: Every other turn it is immune to attacks.
    -Moves: Trick Room, Shadow Ball, Psychic, Hyperspace Hole
    -Hyperspace Hole is basically Phantom Force and Aura Sphere combined into a Psychic move.
    -Stats at level 100 (unknown if EVs or IVs are in play) 301/230/155/315/296/177 @Bold nature.

    Speculated info:
    -Likely has access to Taunt/Substitute/Protect/Thunder Wave/Toxic/Will-o-wisp
    -Impractical is currently just speculated to only active every other turn (without proof, just rumored but viable to believe)
    -Seems Sp.Atk orientated and incredibly low in Defense and Speed (Bold w/155 @lv100 might as well be considered Chansey’s Defense)

    Counter ideas:
    -Taunting: If predicted in a switch, Taunt will remove its protecting capabilities.
    -Mold Breakers: Pinsir (not Mega), Gyarados (Mega), Ampharos (Mega), Rampardos, Excadrill, Throh, Sawk, Basculin, Haxorus, Druddigon, Pangoro, Hawlucha.
    -Entry Hazards: Spikes, Toxic Spikes(*), Stealth Rock, Hail & Sand Storm(*)
    -Toxic Spikes: It, at the moment, seems to be the only way to get a status ailment onto Hoopa. Best have a Suicide lead or Bulky Planter.
    -Sandstorm: Mainly Tyranitar. Its incredibly Bulky, and with the Sandstorm boosting its Sp.Def, it will stall out Hoopa easily, even if it can’t attack. Its Dark typing makes it immune to Psychic and resistant to Ghost hits. Rest should be on it in the even’t it has a status ailment move like Toxic or Will-o-wisp.
    -Dark types: Mainly Bulky ones. Gyarados, Umbreon, Tyranitar, Spiritomb, Scrafty, Mandibuzz, Hydreigon (Base 92Hp + 90Defense/Sp.Def is good), Yveltal.
    -Blissely Stalls all Special Attackers (Hoopa is no exception unless it gets Psyshock).
    -Any Pokemon with a Base of 140 and up in either HP or Sp.Def will have a good chance.
    -Pressure for an ability will help.
    -Turboblaze and Terabolt (Reshiram and Zekrom) are your Uber Mold Breakers. Mostly Reshiram due to high Sp.Def.
    -Pursuit bait + x4 weak to Dark will make it go bye-bye.
    -Weak to Bug gives it some vulnerability.
    -Also x4 weak to Ghost and Dark gives you priority options of Shadow Sneak and Sucker Punch to OHKO (if lucky enough to use).

    Worries:
    -Can it get Focus Blast and Psyshock? If so, your Dark Walls and Special Walls will be in trouble.
    -It can likely get rest, but that would be bad on it unless you use Chesto/Lum berry. If it makes itself go to sleep on a turn you can’t hit it. Next psychical attack (judging by Defense currently see) will OHKO it.
    -Switching it out/fear baiting it will be hard.
    -Immune to Fighting and Normal (scrappy would be good, but it would still be resisted due to Psychic typing.
    -Currently immune to all OHKO Priority moves.

    Here’s just my two cents on Hoopa.

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  43. I Don’t See A Problem With Using Something Like Pokegen To Make Competitive Pokemon. Because Lets Face It, Most Of Us Don’t Want To Spend Days Even Weeks Breeding And Super Training For A Pokemon We Can Just Make In A Couple Minutes. So I Only Agree With Making Pokemon That Can Be Obtained Legit (To Save Time).

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  44. TBH I really only used pokegen aka hacked truly for the hidden abilities for the unreleased starters. My wifi doesnt allow pokegen or pokecheck anyway 🙁
    However in the past i have used an r4 when i was 7 xI

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  45. Well, in my battle with Ziia, I found out that Belch works completely different from what I thought… I thought it consumed the berry once I use it… Definitely not keeping that

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  46. I only hacked a shiny Shuckle that looked really legit. No illegal ability, moves, etc. Caught where they are usually caught in BW2, horrible IVs, yet Impish XD It passed through. I’m planning on getting every event legendary Pokemon I missed through PokeCheck and then no more hacks for me 😀

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  47. Guys I just remembered something that debunks the whole religious war theory between Kalos and a “German” region. (Of course, game freak could have just chosen to represent Lumiose city with modern Paris, rather than the bacteria-ridden, unsanitary, and barricaded Paris of the 17th and 18th centuries.)

    Paris. You know the whole nice and winding boulevards and stuff? And the Eiffel Tower? These changes occurred in the 19th century, during the time of the 2nd French Republic (under the rule of Napoleon III), long after the religious wars in Europe.

    However, this does not mean that the next region isn’t based on Germany. Instead, I believe the Kalos wars could be either:

    a. The Franco Prussian War in the 1870’s; after Germany was already partly unified, it invaded France, sieged Paris, and established the 3rd French Republic. Also, afterwards France literally fought itself (another gov. had been established in Paris that claimed it was the legitimate government)

    b. World War I; here, Germany intended to fight France through neutral Belgium and capture Paris. Germany, for a while, had also been trying to isolate France from the other Eu. states through the alliance system. Tensions had also been rising in the German’s establishment of colonies and rising industrial power.

    c. World War II; This seems to make the most sense to me. Again, Germany invaded France (and actually succeeded). Remember that whole war that was mentioned in Gen I? You know, the one about how Kanto fought in “World War II” (because Japan had also done so). Maybe Kalos was a part of it too? This also makes sense because the war partly happened in France (iirc, in x/y it states that the Kalos wars were fought in France). Also, the Ultimate Weapon could symbolize the Atomic Bomb (even though it wasn’t used in Europe during WWII)

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    • definitely the franco war… here goes someone’s theory that backs up yours. I take no credit for it though

      due to the fact that Kalos is based on France and the location and architecture of the Parfum Palace is recognisable as the Palace of Versailles, let’s look into some French history shall we? According to Wikipedia the Palace of Versailles is a symbol of absolute monarchy which means that one individual has unlimited power in his owned territory. So in this case we are referring to a King! And who started to order build the Palace of Versailles? Louis the thirteenth. But when he died in 1643 his successor Louis the fourteenth expanded the build and in 1697 the outer build was completed. The sole purpose was, like in Pokemon X and Y, for the King to emphasise his authority and power.

      So what does this knowledge have to do with finding out where the new region will take place? Well if we have found even a minor link to “our world” then maybe we will find more clues! In the Parfum Palace you will find a tourist who explains when the castle was built! “This castle was built after Kalos won a war with neighbouring regions.” Well if we can confirm the official completion year was around 300 years ago for the Palace of Versailles and for the Parfum Palace, maybe there was a war in that small timeline? And there was. It really depends how one defines the completion date of the Palace of Versailles. If the outer date is true (1697) then we must analyse the “Brulez le Palatinat” a massive slaughter which takes place on south-west Germany or an earlier victory of 1678 the “Franco-Dutch War” which soon escalates into a European War including Germany as well. If we where to state the interior completion date to be true (1710) then we’ll have to look at the “War of Spanish Succession”. But this isn’t necessary! The French succeeded in the “Brulez le Palatinat” and “Franco-Dutch War”, but lost the “War of Spanish Succession”. Because the two palaces where built after victories and successful kings, it wouldn’t make any sense! So our clue lies in either the Netherlands or Germany…

      Well to answer the question we must hop back to the Kalos region and wander from town to town. In many towns you will find a Hotel. In the second floor you might be lucky and find a backpacker! Now he says something rather interesting: “The Kalos region is nice and all, but you should really check out my region!” Well to be honest that doesn’t prove anything now does it? But let’s pay attention to his clothing! His hair is black, his shirt is red and his backpack is yellow… That could be the description of either a Belgian or a German flag. But because the order is corresponding from top to bottom on the same order as the German flag, we could conclude that this is a referral to Germany!!! Not only that but geographically it makes sense also! If the war which is mentioned by the tourist is between neighbouring regions then the “Franco-Dutch War”

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  48. also to those with awesome flygons, what ev spread did you put on it? scarf while being adamant? jolly with choice band? cant tell which it is

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  49. What if the next region is split into two?
    Like to the northeast would be the Germany Region, but then there would be a southeast path to a Region based on Italy!
    They are the biggest countries in that region after all.
    But wait, what if the Germany and Italy regions were combined, with a mountain rising from the center surrounded by water on three sides, like a peninsula. And that would be a big part of the storyline.
    Or also, there could be a “mainland” in the middle where you could meet your friends on your friend list if you are both online.
    Just picture it.
    ——- Germany based region
    Kalos —-water—–
    ——- Italy based bottom part of region.

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  50. No Pokémon game will Ever take place in Africa.. FACT.. they may travel the Entire planet.. maybe even outer space but Stop right before then… -_-

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  51. you know what makes me sad? It’s that we don’t even know that the Mega Lati’s stats are real or not. PLZ Dragon/Fairy Latias…

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  52. Please no one try telling me Pokémon games and anime are diverse enough yet.. so naïve to say such a thing… In X and Y there was a pretty good amount of colored trainers but all of which meant nothing to the story or player
    Which is why I am still saying Africa won’t work

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  53. I’ve always wanted a pokemon game that had a different region in each version like in Pokn BW2 where certain locations were changed a little in each version

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  54. I like how Pokéjungle’s note has the word “contrary” in it. Reminds me of A Certain Unreleased Ability for A Certain Fantastic Starter.

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  55. So i battle this guy in Rating Battles, He uses Mega Aggron, Garchomp, Ampharos, Abomasnow, Charizard and Metagross.
    I beat him 5-0

    If you wanna watch it, VN4G-WWWW-WWW5-DRNT

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  56. Now that I finally have time to do other things beside breeding, I’m training up perfect 6IV Pokemon team members to use here and there. Earning BP in the Battle Maison right now. 🙂

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  57. For Swampert should i go Ice Punch, Wide Guard, Waterfall and Earthquake or Rock Slide, Wide Guard, Waterfall and Earthquake?

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  58. pokemans i need: (kanto dex)

    venonat
    prime ape
    geodude
    slowbrooo
    seel
    grimer
    onix
    hypno
    krabby
    kingler
    marowack
    licktinug
    wheezing
    koffing
    rhydon
    khangaskhan
    seadra
    staryu
    mrmime
    jynx
    electabuzz
    magmar
    taros
    gyarados
    kabutops
    omynyte
    omastar
    aerodactyl

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  59. I don’t understand how something as awful as Flappy Bird can be more socially acceptable opposed to Pokemon.

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  60. I will be mad if i get a shiny mudkip while trying to breed with for a female so that i can get a male Swampert with egg moves in the end q.q

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  61. I want to give a big thank you to everyone who has ever traded me without your help I could have never finished the pokedex.This is the first time I have ever completed one and besides everyone being very kind to each other I have come to the conclusion that I really made the right choice in joining PJN 🙂 you guys are all amazing individuals ^_^

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  62. I voted I don’t care because I don’t care how others play their games. If it makes you feel better to hack flawless shiny legendaries to beat the teams people trained themselves, well, I’m more impressed you managed to get flawless shiny legendaries through the hack prevention. Kudos to you!

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  63. TC, when it gets to it, heres my johto.
    Chikorita
    Quilava
    Noctowl
    Natu
    Xatu
    Flaaffy
    Sunkern
    Sunflora
    Wooper
    Murkrow
    Slowking
    Unown
    Girafarig
    Forretress
    Phanpy
    Porygon 2
    Stantler
    Tyrogue
    Blissey
    Ho-oh

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  64. I need 8 Pokemon to complete my own National Dex. Does anybody have:

    Frogadier
    Pyroar
    Tyrantrum
    Aurorus
    Noivern
    Heliolisk
    Malamar
    Dragalge

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  65. I was reading competitive suggestions for Altaria last night. Nobody has a clue how to properly use Altaria =/ Everybody tries making it an offensive Pokemon

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  66. @TCMets:disqus How’s this for altaria? (It might be bad but I just thought it on the top of my head)
    ——————————————————————–
    Altaria @ Weakness Policy (??)
    -Roost
    -Dragon Pulse
    -Cotton Guard
    -Ice Beam
    — (-Atk,+SpDef)

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  67. Anyone have an Avalanche Male Avalugg that they can trade me? /my Avalugg aint got it and i need to breed it with my female mudkip.

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  68. Chikorita
    Quilava
    Noctowl
    Natu
    Xatu
    Flaaffy
    Sunkern
    Sunflora
    Wooper
    Murkrow
    Slowking
    Unown
    Girafarig
    Forretress
    Phanpy
    Porygon 2
    Stantler
    Tyrogue
    Blissey
    Ho-oh

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  69. Does anybody have the berries necessary for making the juice that resets a Pokemon EV? I’m having a hard time finding reset bags.

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  70. So I finally got access to Bank this weekend and uploaded all of my Pokemon up to it. I then started a new game and downloaded them onto the new file. I decided to start with Chespin, and use some old Pokemon that I haven’t used before in this game. I started with Marill, Mareep, Beldum, Fletchling, Chespin and Goomy. All of the imported Pokemon I wanted to use were Japanese, so I decided to breed them to get an English one so that I would know what they are when they level up. Long story short, I got a shiny Gooey Goomy!

    TL;DR:

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  71. “I wish there was an Exercise that just involved smashing things and fighting monsters”
    -EarthenWarrior.

    Earthen is clearly Wreck it Ralph.

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  72. gg maple
    It is hard battling people here some people never switch and some people switch all the time nobody is consistent

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  73. I hate it when a passerby challenges you to a battle, but you have to decline to go get your team, and when you challenge he/she back, they decline and/or unresponsive.

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  74. Today my English teacher was trying to come up with different names for the “nuts” because of a scene in To Kill A Mockingbird. He thought of all the obvious ones, then everyone was quiet for a second because it was awkward. Then, out of the silence, I say, “what about golden marbles?” Everybody cracked up, people used it in their paragraphs, and he used it in future periods. I felt a little better after that XD

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  75. So 4 members of my Fighting type team down
    Anyone got any Ideas for a Chesnaught
    Since i received a lovely Impish Chespin with Curse and Synthesis and I was thinking
    Power Up Punch
    Seed Bomb
    Leech Seed
    Synthesis
    I don’t know how long He’ll last with with plethora of weaknesses and sub-par speed to even heal himself and he’ll be EV in solely Hp and Defenses and use Power-Up punch as a gradual attack
    But i’ll be wide open to Charizard Y’s Air Slash
    What do you guys think?

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  76. And, ladies and gentlemen, and Djja, that was our (@Disqus_H_i_T_h_e_r_e:disqus) rendition of Say Something by Christina Aguilera and that band nobody knew about

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  77. Day 67: I woke up again today like usual, checking various Nintendo sources for any sign of the elusive “Nintendo Direct”. So far, my search has been fruitless…literally. I am running low on food, soon I will call the local authorities for a ride to the village. This is becoming a battle between me, myself and I. I will update you with any findings, but at this point…things are looking bleak.

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  78. I was just wondering guys, can you give me until Tuesday to work on my team? I have made absolutely no progress so far, and I have a super-busy school week, BUT I have a 4-day weekend so I could probably finish it then. Is that okay?

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  79. @djja_shiny_froslass:disqus +1 252 SpA Genesect Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Chesnaught: 352-416 (92.6 – 109.4%) — 56.3% chance to OHKO

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  80. I’m sorry guys, I have made up my mind. My next hunt will not be for Natu…it will instead be for Elgyem. As perfect of a shiny Elgyem as I can get. Beeheeyem is HIGHLY underrated and often forgotten, its shiny is cool, I love aliens, the Masuda chances are 1/400, fruit bats do not fly at night, and I want to learn the patience.

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  81. guys i figur it owt
    in teh anime
    bonnie sez “i wana marrie max”
    and then ash says “wait i havnt seeen max in a wile”
    And then bonnie sez”id ride him liek an unbroken steed”
    and then ash tells max to ballt him
    and then he comes to kalos
    then they batttle
    den max win and bonnie and max get marrie yay

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  82. Watch Dogs has been delayed exclusively for the Wii U…Sega is the only reliable third party they have left. This is not good news.

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  83. John, I don’t have much right now, but I’m gonna breed perfect Pidove soon with 4 egg moves, is it OK if I give it to you tomorrow?

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  84. I’d love to see the PJN tournament be reintroduced and held during spring break, now that I actually have a team. Although I may be at the beach, you know how it is in Florida *flexes muscles*. TC is Uber though so he’s banned. <3

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  85. @SlipperySceptile:disqus If you don’t want your DW Feebas to breed a shiny Adaptability Feebas, then use her offspring that has a standard ability as the mother.

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    • Things I’ve gotten over the GTS while I was doing my “chain of deals” to finish the Pokedex:
      1IV Shiny Palkia
      6IV Regigias
      6IV Latias
      6IV Mesprit
      6IV Kyurem
      6IV Landorus (Modest, HA)

      I can feel your luck though. In fact, I always have either a Heatran -> Landorus or Landorus -> Heatran trade up, just in case I luck out more. 😀

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  86. To be perfectly honest, I too like to hack Pokemon. Please don’t give me anything I’m just saying, I don’t really see the problem if I’m doing it to get some shines that I really want. I have been hacking for a really long time. Since Pearl. (Pearl was my first Pokemon game) I don’t really see the problem but, that’s just we.

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  87. I haven’t been able to test this out yet, but if you have a hacked Pokémon, is it true that you can’t use it in wifi battles? I heard that they can’t be traded via wifi either. Howeer, if you use an infra red connection, you can.

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  88. I can say I honestly don’t care outside of using them to gain unfair advantage over people, with the whole ridiculous IV’s, moves, and abilities. I’ve hacked before (I hacked the encounters in Leafgreen to get my precious Delcatty among other things in that game) and I tested some hacked pokemon in the battle subway. Do I feel good about it? No. Do I feel guilty? No. I wasn’t hurting anyone.
    I would have been devastated if any of my pokemon that I played with hadn’t made it through, and I was still kind of upset that my WTC deoxys and shiny Jirachi (pretty sure it’s legit) didn’t make it through, even though I RNG’d PLENTY of pokes that did, including a 5V shiny female Oshawott. So I guess it evens out in the end to kind of impartial feelings.

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    • fair FAIR really there no such fucking thing as fair in this world boy those japs cost me a mew, a shiny kyogre, one of my two darkrais, and one of my two arceus its bullshit that what it is i understand there reasoning but really game freak some people cant get those pokemon ever i was lucky but still its kind of a dick move some people or kids will ever get there hands on one

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  89. Why don’t they just, you know, have something that can tell if it’s been generated through codes or modified? It’s a half-assed attempt at stopping hacking. I don’t agree with it at all because it’s not supporting a franchise you supposedly love.

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    • i’m only against using hacked Pokemon online! If you hack certain Pokemon for use in your solo game or in a emulation of a game that’s one thing but using them in online battles for a unfair advantage is just wrong!

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  90. For me the problem of hacking is because people can generate mons in 5 seconds with perfect IV’s and everything, but, what about people that train hard to have their perfect mons? I don’t like hacking and by far I’ve kick some hackers butts in the past 😀

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  91. Well I used a hacking tool to make a team for wifi… call me lazy but I really don’t have time to make a whole team. Besides, I prefer to get to the fun part-battling.

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  92. i sorta feel the same way, as i feel like hacking is ok under certain situations, for example, i have a 10 anniversary flying pikachu in my fire red, it can’t be traded without removing the move fly, which to me ruins its uniqueness and the only way to give it back fly is to use a cheating device, so am i considered a hacker and is that pokemon illegal, how so when all i am doing is giving back the move it once had , clearly i dont know if i should blame gamefreak for not looking at situations like that because they not the ones who make changes to hardware nintendo does, but i dont know if it can be said clearly they didnt think this through.

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  93. I Can Speak On This One. I Have A Large Amount Of Hacked Pokémon Sent Over Too My Pokemon X. In Particular, I Have A Rayquaza(Ray) Who Was An Obvious Hack Cause I Had Two In Diamond. I Also Have A Lot Of Shiny Lv. 100 Pokémon, Such As My Lovely Gardevoir (Gardina). She’s A Dream!!! Lol So I Think You Can Hack The Pokemon On White And Black But Just Do Not Change The IVs And Stats. Hope This Helps Fellow Hack Buddies!

    P.S. Battle Me If You Dare! Mwahahaha! (Look For Ruu!)

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  94. Has anybody tried to transfer their hacked shiny pokemon to x and y (action replay) with not messaging with their iv or ev. Just getting hacked of pokemon always shiny.

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  95. I’ve sent heaps of poke-gened, 6iv shiny pokemon with ideal nature, and they got through. What to know how, I DID IT RIGHT, THATS HOW. The PID matched the ivs, nature, gender, and shininess, and all abilities, moves, caught locations and levels, are legitimately obtainable. The fact of the matter is, we know how to perfectly replicate a legitimate pokemon. As for hacking for 6iv pokemon, I believe it puts everyone on a level playing field. Battles can be determined by skill rather than how much free time someone has.

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  96. I’m not against hacking per se, I can see why people do it, but it’s not for me. I used to hack in fire red but it took all the challenge out of it so i decided not to. Now I’m extra happy about the pokemon I worked hard/ got lucky to get.

    But I don’t think nintendo should ban a pokemon when there’s a chance it could be legit as I am currently egg breeding for a shiny charmander and nearly Iv bred some first and I know id be really irritated if I got really lucky and got a shiny 6iv charmander and then couldn’t put it in bank (especially since this will probably be the way you transfer pokemon to later games in the future)

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  97. Well I really don’t see the problem if the hacked Pokemon is entirely legit. For example, as you pointed out, a shiny legendary with perfect IVs, EVs, and a legal move set is still legit because it’s possible to obtain it normally.
    The hack checks can’t tell if you generated it or caught it legitly (there’s worse things to worry about anyway), so even though it’s supposed to be innocent until proven guilty, it still assumes you hacked due to unlikely chance of getting it. Maybe you should “hack” to remove the shiny aspect before you transfer it (or create and transfer another identical Pokemon, just without the shiny aspect) if you still want to be able to use it in tournaments and whatnot?

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  98. I only ever made hacked Pokémon to complete the Pokédex. But they all have amazing movesets and perfect IV’s. Hey, if you can do it, you might as well lol

    My one thing is… the app I use (Pokébuilder for iOS and Android) can only get Unova Pokémon through Bank if their met location is outside of Unova. For example, my two Lv. 25 Gigalith with a completely legit moveset, perfect IV’s and everything else… only got through when I put them as having been met in Sinnoh.

    I now have to breed countless Pokémon from the 31 “Sinnoh/Unova” Pokémon to get legit Poké’s for every species… So hopefully, all of my Pokémon are legit now. I also have to breed a bunch of others so I don’t have one of each species. I like variety and options.

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  99. I don’t think using hacked Pokemon is a big deal as long as the Pokemon is legitimate. Obviously having 6IV shiny legendaries is clearly very cheap and not fun to face from personal experience (honestly I just hate people that use more than 1 legendary anyways, that’s when it’s just stupid but I digress), but I guess it’s still technically legal so I’d allow it to pass. The system should really only filter out the obvious hacks with totally ridiculous stats, moves, abilities, etc.

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  100. Well I just got myself myself lux ray and rayquaza with both of them having wonderguard and the lux ray has fusion bolt

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  101. Half my box of super-rare Pokemon I’ve accumulated got flagged. A hacked Celebi (cheat that gives event version for BW) passed, but a regular Infernape with 31 IVs and EV trained did not.PokeGen’d US variants of Victini which should be Japanese passed, however, a Drifblim from Platinum didn’t(and it has a shitty moveset!)

    You’d think a company like this would do more than just fuck over anything valuable. So much for getting into the ORAS competitive field

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  103. I feel bad for any of those kids out there that convinced or snuck charges onto their parents for pokemon through ebay. I was actually considering paying out of pocket for even pokemon for the first time as i just started getting obsessed with oras in anticipation for sun/moon.
    The reason i feel bad for the kids that payed for pokemon they never would have even seen in their lifetime is partly because i remember buying a gba cartridge with a full shiny live pokedex game.
    I managed to be able to transfer some pokemon all the way up to oras, including some i patched into the game using 1 of 3 different action replay devices. I wish i knew the ruling as i dont want to be unfair. My biggest problem is that i feel its unfair that ive played every single game since the originals multiple times over and many times i either lost my collection of pokemon, or like from gameboy to gba they didnt let us carry up our past pokemon. And its very hard and tedious moving up pokemon from HGSS into black/white into X n Y to then trade finally to ORAS. Another break where they stopped all carrying over pokemon was bettween diamond pearl and hgss.

    I swear if there was a way to manually register every single pokemon i find in the wild with a generated serial code that u would enter on their site to validate it and allow it to be something you could keep trading up through the games even if they limit us to needin the nation dex to trade up… but hell id still ****ing do it. I just want my pokemon i dont want to hack em in, nor do i want to treat it like a job to get em back, and taking them all away so i have to catch them all over and i might as well throw away all my old precious pokemon that i love is just cruel.

    I mean hell they could just flag my nintendo as having obtained hacked pokemon and temp trade ban me or soft tournament ban me, or flag the individually caught hacked pokemon. I just wanna have them ill go grind for a real team for online play.

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