Mewtwo Forme… or Something More? What We Know

Smash has just finished airing and the Official Pokémon site has just updated with the brand new Pokémon, leaked earlier in the week. Gameplay of the new Pokémon can be found below.

The Pokémon shares many similar traits with Mewtwo but isn’t quite the same, which would suggest it’s not perhaps the form we all expected it to be. The newly discovered Pokémon is suspected to have some connection with Mewtwo however, perhaps something a more than a forme? The Official site also mentions how Mewtwo was engineered for battle and it’s sheer power and how a new chapter begins with this new Pokémon. It’s probably also worth noting the the site refers to it as an individual new Pokémon, rather than hinting it being a forme.

We really don’t know a huge amount about this new Pokémon, but from the official information given there’s a lot of room for potential speculation. There’s information to both suggest it is a form of Mewtwo and that it is something entirely different and perhaps not even a legendary Pokémon at all (it’s only referred to as a Pokémon, rather than Legendary Pokémon like Xerneas and Yveltal).

It’s definitely uncertain exactly what this Pokémon is, and it’s just another question we all have about X & Y, but what do you think or want this Pokémon to be? A Mewtwo forme? A descendant of sorts? A completely new Pokémon? Or something entirely new? Get discussing!

 

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225 thoughts on “Mewtwo Forme… or Something More? What We Know”

  1. I’m guessing they might announce as just like they made mewtwo in gen 1. This may be a twisted plot where while they were making a mewtwo, they were working on another clone of mew???

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  2. If it is a new Pokemon, it with Mewtwo’s relationship may be similar to Manaphy and Phione?
    But I hope that it is a new form, otherwise it will occupy the new Pokemon position.

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  3. I’m gonna be honest and say that I have no idea what the big hype about Mewtwo is… I mean it’s never been my favourite and I’ve never had it on my team… However, I think I’m one of the only people that prefers this new thing to the original. As for what it is… There’s a part of me that says it’s a new Pokemon then again, B/W Kyurem were also ‘new Pokémon’ so I dunno
    (On a side note, anyone else really excited about the full 3D battle and the new battle sprites?)

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    • Yes, yes,yes. I didn’t care about the new form. Only thing I was excited about was battle animations and mewtoo’s “attacking” animation. I realy really love it. It seems a little bit repeating but it is so damn good.

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    • It’s good to read different opinions when everybody’s polite and respectful. I like Mewtwo a lot, actually, although it’s not one of my top ten favourite pokémon of all… Still, I don’t think this thing is ruining Mewtwo, I actually think it looks kind of cool, even though I’m nof fond of that tail coming out of its head. And I have to admit that Kyurem was introduced as a new pokémon, but in the official pokémon site there are question marks under this “Newtwo” thingy picture, suggesting that it will have a name of its own, I suppose. Besides, they just said that there seems to be a relation of some sort between it and Mewtwo, but they always dodged the question: “Is it Mewtwo (but in other form)?”, hinting that maybe it isn’t just a form, but actually a pokémon of its own. I’d really apreciate that, since I’m not that big of a fan of forms. And hell yeah, I’m excited! I was afraid that with new systems and new and improved graphics, they’d just go nuts and create something complex and complicated, which would destroy pokémon for me. I like pokémon games for what they are, simple and straightforward games… You attack, you get attacked, it’s a matter of strategy. If they took that away from us, it would just get too messy. They seem to have maintained the simple game we’ve all fell in love with, just adding cool effects that look totally badass!

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  4. The same guy (or people) that genetically enhanced Genesect created this out of Mew/Mewtwo DNA. It is a perfectly engineered version of Mewtwo designed to counterbalance Genesect, as there went something wrong with Genesect and it is now going rampage.
    Expect it to have all around amazing stats, with more (special) attack at the cost of speed.

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    • Yes, it seems like a more genius version of Mewtwo, considering its ass replaced its brain. Maybe they found out that Mewtwo’s ass has an enormous thinking capacity.

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  5. The two squares below Mewtwo in the movie site gives me the chills… this “Newtwo” may be one of the squares… so does that mean there’s one more?

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  6. This Mewtwo thing has kind of grown on me a bit now after sleeping on it. It doesn’t look ~too bad~ but that carrying handle and its toes are really offputting…

    (but i’m still angry that this is all the news we got ;_; )

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  7. Although I like this new thing more than the original mewtwo, I would feel so bad for the mewtwo fans if this is a new form. I was devastated when white kyurem was released, as my favourite legendary, Reshiram was described to almost be incomplete without kyurem, and white kyurem is more similar to the original dragon then Reshiram. I’ve gotta say, that annoyed me a lot. It’s curious about the two boxes under mewtwo, I hope it’s something to do with an mewtwo and a y one. Also it is so strange that the legendary types, even sylveons type have not been released yet. It just makes me think there will be new types, or Gamefreak are going to give us only some information but not the whole picture for a while

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  8. The way the “antenna” and the half circle thing are arranged, it makes it look like an omega sign. Could that have anything to do with it? Perhaps the name?

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  9. At first, I was not fond of a Mewtwo form (from the leak). But after I saw the official art, it grew on me. I like it now! I like pretty much all Pokemon. 😛

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  10. Hey, I noticed a comment here about older fans usually not wanting new games and ”if it were up to older fans there would have been no games after generation 1” I wanted to say that honestly the majority of older fans think nothing of the sort. Of course there will be some that say that ,and that’s there opinion , but that’s literally 1% of fans. Im 20years old and turning 21 in May. Ive been playing Pokémon since I was around 5 or so, and I love all generations, granted I love some more than others, but, Generation 2 is my favourite. Not generation 1. I also loved this generation 5. I loved gens3 and 4 too but not as much as the other 1,2,5. My point is, that 1% of older fans are loud and voice their opinions almost aggressively but not all of us are like that trust me 🙂

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    • I think anyone who says this is blinded by nostalgia goggles. I’m 21 myself and think each new generation of Pokémon is as exciting as the last. When a game series becomes tired, that’s when I don’t want any more games. Pokémon is far from being tired and is still growing hugely.

      I think like you said the majority of older fans welcome new games and enjoy them incredibly, I think it’s fans who didn’t play Pokémon from the start and picked up late with earlier games who say that it should have ended and started with Red & Blue. I don’t think anyone can argue with complete validity that Pokémon should have stopped.

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      • Cool nice to see you agree with me 😀 It kinda annoys me how people say that, for example some peoples argument is that the story in the games have just gotten worse and worse.
        IMO generation5 had such a moving storyline, you could really relate to some of it, and most of all it made me think. Some comments from the grunts who didn’t know the full story of what was happening in team plasma were just well thought out by the creators.
        Thanks for agreeing & ur comment was 100% true nostalgia goggles need to stop haha 😀

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        • It’s good to see people who aren’t afraid to speak out! Anyone who thinks the stories have gotten weaker are confusing. They’ve only gotten strong each generation. Unova has the strongest plot line, the fact it was the first generation to get direct sequels shows that (I’m ignoring Johto following Kanto as they weren’t as close knit as Unova).

          Out with the nostalgia goggles!

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          • Agreed you can say Generation 5 was the riskiest of all the Generation with the plot. They tied the plot to a lot of religion, ideals and stuff you didn’t see in previous Generations of Pokemon.

          • It was very good, I really felt that the story was created to make the player think and relate more to Pokémon as living creatures than any other generation. Truly loved it 🙂

          • Did you ever play second gen? That was sort of the whole point of the red-headed antagonist and Lance vs. Team Rocket.

          • Yes I have, I have played every generation. I don’t know what your point is, or what your trying to say, But your PIG IGNORANCE is certainly noticeable. Disgusting people like you should be banned from this site and left to rot, like the negative trolling sad sack you are. Don’t bother real fans on this site again.

          • Haha the sad thing is, You have no idea what you even replied to in the first place. Learn to read then come back 🙂 In future read all posts before commenting on one incorrectly 🙂 Have a nice day ( and brush up on your reading and people skills ) 😀

          • You’ve…. YOU’VE READ MY MIND!!! (**are you mewtwo???**)

            ( But your PIG IGNORANCE is certainly noticeable. Disgusting people like
            you should be banned from this site and left to rot, like the negative
            trolling sad sack you are. Don’t bother real fans on this site again.) <- counts as people skills? Lemme give it a try:

            *ahem*

            "Your lack of acknowledgement that the second generation's introduction of the happiness factor into gameplay mechanics and the entire storyline of fighting to be the strongest was a strong moral statement made by GameFreak due to the first generation's over-popularity of its players trying to fight with the strongest pokemon – Ubers in today's parlance – instead of playing the game with the species one likes. This emphasis is pretty blatant by the actions of the red-haired antagonist who ultimately learns that pokemon are not just tools for battle but actual creatures to be cared for, to the point that the player is given a shuckle specifically to be taken care of because its owner is frightened that it will be taken away by bad people; and that Lance pops up to talk about not only the suffering of the pokemon at the Lake of Rage, but also the suffering of the electrodes who are powering the machine in Mahogany Town.
            The willful ignorance expressed by your initial reply is beyond any fanboyisms and falls into "so pathetically sad" territory that it does not warrant any rational argumentative reply to try to continue a polite discussion on the merits of plot and storyline of the games. You have no logic and you reply to me like a rabid dog that should be put down"

            Oops, I think I did it wrong. Let me try again:
            "Go hug a Lucario."
            There, I think I got it! 😀

          • The saddest thing of all is that you decided to automatically presume I forgot the second gen…. ” DID YOU EVEN PLAY IT” learn to read, I even said it was my favourite. So before you start fights with people like myself who know a lot more about Pokémon than you do, I suggest as stated before reading prior to replying. Now hopefully you see the error in your ways, you are dismissed and there is no further point in carrying on this argument. If you do wish to discuss the matter further with me, do it off this site as you bickering and looking for arguments isn’t fair on the other members of this site.
            Run along with the other children and read 🙂

          • “So before you start fights with people like myself”
            I started a fight? Me? How!?
            Thank you for proving I am right! 🙂

          • My favourite generation is 2 as I have explained, yet I preferred the powerful storyline in gen 5. They are similar but Generation 5 just completely hit the nail on the head and made many fans think. You cannot see this point and I don’t know weather your just trolling or stupid. Ive literally spelled it out for you, so if you cant understand then its your problem. I don’t know why you feel the need to challenge me on my favourite game, so you should just not cause arguments and ” Go hug a Lucario ” haha good-day Sir 😀

          • You didn’t spell out anything except by responding to my innocent question by attacking me and calling me PIG IGNORANT. You, sir, have turned into a troll before I could even say anything. 😛
            It’s funny how any questions or criticisms is met with unadulterated hatred. Some of us don’t have nostalgia-goggles, we just like quality. 🙂

          • Well if the boot fits….
            Honestly you seem to have misjudged everything written, so I will pass this off as you making a simple mistake. I clearly am not a troll, just read all my comments, not here but anywhere. I don’t know why you bring quality into this conversation, all main series Pokémon Games are quality..

          • Yeah, I would give you the benefit of a doubt; as long as you realize that your first response to me, calling me “PIG IGNORANT”, “disgusting”, and should be banned, was seriously over-the-line for responding to a simple question.
            As for quality, the Pokemon games all have their pluses and minuses. I’ve written about my review of the 5th generation storyline before, and kept it as neutral as possible, and was only met with, “NOSTALGIA GOGGLES!!!” as replies instead of any actual intelligent input about the criticism. While I give GameFreak E for Effort on 5th gen, I did feel it fell flat on its own premise more often-than-not. The BW2 story sort of redeemed the generation with Hugh’s storyline (Same with Bel’s for BW), but it wasn’t enough for me to list it anywhere near the best or better storylines of the games.
            If someone does not agree with my assessment and their opinion is one of the plot being the best of the games and everything just keeps getting better, then we can mutually agree to disagree. But someone responding with troll/flaming comments, shows more about their character than anything.

          • You don’t seem to get this. That’s your opinion, I Disagree but its your opinion. I would give Generation 5 a solid 8/10.

          • Wait.

            I JUST said, “we can mutually agree to disagree.”

            You responded with, essentially, “YOU’RE WRONG!! I AGREE TO DISAGREE!!”

            Why are you disagreeing with me on something that you’re agreeing with? We both have different opinions, and THAT IS FINE. You seem to agree with that, so why are you disagreeing with me? Just for the sake of being a troll?

          • You really have no idea what ur even saying anymore do u ? I’m guessing your just out for a fight for the sake of being a troll and a pain.

    • Same here bro My favorite was Gen 2, even though I played Pokemon Blue first my favorites would be 2>5>3>1>4. Gen 1 will always be a classic but I’m completely open to them giving older pokemon new forms. I welcome new games I’m 20 also and can’t wait for Gen 6 I enjoyed all then Gens tbh. Gen 2 was just my favorite because of all the content that was added back then was amazing to me as a kid.

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      • I know, I was amazed seeing how Kanto had changed in time it really was such a fantastic addition to the game. I can honestly say im more excited for generation 6 now than I have been when generation 5 was first announced. Great to see someone my age being open to new games with such a level head and not a crazed pissed off generation 1 fanboy haha 🙂

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        • Right, I don’t understand all the hate that comes to giving older pokemon new formes or evolutions. Generation 1 will always be great. I actually get excited when I see older pokes get new evolutions or formes, I don’t see why Gen 1 fanboys hate it so much lol

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          • I know lol, I just received a comment from a butthurt fan ( DREW2U ) there.They need to grow the hell up haha 🙂

          • How was anything I said butt-hurt?
            And where, if you’re trying to imply, have I said anything negative about the new mewtwo form?

          • Are you twelve or something? I’m trying to figure out why you keep trolling, and the only plausible answer is that you’re some middleschooler or young highschooler that doesn’t know how to have an intelligent conversation and who only knows how to respond to questions with ad hominem attacks.

            Again, I repeat – and perhaps you can start having a grown-up conversation instead of the baseless name-calling that seems to be the only thing in your repertoire – where have I said anything bad about the mewtwo form, and where in any fashion have I said anything that is “butt-hurt”?

            You’re embarrassing yourself. I’d plead for you to stop for your own sake, but I get the feeling that’d only encourage you.

          • Funnily enough as I say u embarrass yourself suddenly you say it to me. And you would know how old I am seems how u decided to troll every comment I posted 🙂 learn to read properly in future then respond 🙂

          • Wow, your perspicacity is truly gobsmacking! You have won, sir, in your breathtaking use of the English language in text-speak! My mind, indeed, is too infinitesimal to comprehend such melodious language.

            You are too brilliant for these modest conversations. Go! Go forth and share your brilliance with the internets!

          • As sarcastic as that may be, Good in future please only leave intelligent comments, at least on my posts if you wish to have a discussion 🙂

          • Asking a question isn’t unintelligent, especially since there was no indication of a previous statement that would have addressed such question, but the response to it – nothing but flaming and name-calling, without ever actually addressing the question in a civil, intelligent matter – certainly was! 🙂
            You could have saved yourself all of this were your first response to me civil.

          • Unfortunately if you’d have read my post you wouldn’t have had to ask your question, thus deeming it unintelligent. If youd have done this in the first youd have saved all your time 🙂

          • “It was very good, I really felt that the story was created to make the player think and relate more to Pokémon as living creatures than any other generation. Truly loved it :)”

            Okay, where do you anywhere say that 5th gen’s plot piggybacks off of the already established worldview set in 2nd gen? Nowhere. Through all your own posts you make no recognition about any of it. Maybe in your head you think you did, but you didn’t.
            All you needed to have said was, “I have played second gen and am aware of its plot. While it’s the same thing, I feel that 5th gen did it better”. And that would have been the end of it instead of going on-and-on with calling me names.

          • Ill clarify for you seems how you seem to have missed this numerous times

            ” Ive been playing Pokémon since I was around 5 or so, and I love all generations, granted I love some more than others, but, Generation 2 is my favourite. Not generation 1. I also loved this generation 5. I loved gens3 and 4 too but not as much as the other 1,2,5 ”
            Where it says Generation 2 is my favourite, that right there would indicate that I have played that generation. It also says it was my favourite which further proves I have played it out of all generations currently released.
            Hopefully now you realised that the answer to your question was in my original post. 🙂

          • See, now wasn’t that easier than having this flame war? I will concede that I overlooked that post (kind of a word-salad, but this is the internet), but I have a feeling that you won’t concede that you overreacted.

            In my personal opinion, I loved 2nd gen (HGSS would be what I would recommend to anyone who wants to start playing Pokemon), but I think 3rd gen has the most to gain/benefit for a remake due to such exotic locations – it has the potential to be a really beautiful game.

          • Sorry for the delayed reply I’m in the middle of my exams in college :O yeah I overreacted aswell. But from what I’ve seen you seem to have a lot in common with me 🙂 I’d also love a 3rd gen remake imagine it if they did it in full 3d like x and y ? It would be jaw dropping going up the cable car :p

          • I also think that diving spots, the ash route, Kyogre/Groudon’s entrance & the Cave of Origin, the mossdeep space center, the Tidal cave, Mt. Pyre, Rayquaza’s tower, and Fortree City would all look absolutely phenomenal in that 3D perspective! If they expand the game to include a Sevii Island-like area or the expanded areas of Johto and have more pokemon to catch or just increase post-game gameplay, a RS remake would be great! Though I do hope they choose Emerald’s storyline for the remake as that feels the most-complete plot.

    • You’re so right. What annoys me is how many people seem to translate this:

      ‘I don’t happen to like this new Pokemon’s design. It might grow on me, but at the moment…meh.’

      as

      ‘ALL NEW POKEMON SUCK BRING BACK CHARIZARD WAAAAHHH!!1!’

      I’m 24 and my first game, back when I was 11, was Yellow. I’ll always have a soft spot for generation 1 – they were my first ever pokemon games and the beginning of a life-long love affair. But do I think they’re the best pokemon games? No. Are they even my favourite generation? Hell no; 4th gen gets that honour. But god forbid you express any remotely negative opinion about a new pokemon or game feature – no matter how intelligently or eloquently you say it, or how much you explain that you still enjoy the new games in spite of it – because then you’re suddenly a ‘rabid, whining genwunner’. I think this stupid generalisation shows the immaturity and small-mindedness of certain younger fans much, much more than it shows the nostalgia of older fans.

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      • Exactly, Its just ridiculous how people seem to instantly jump to those conclusions. I couldn’t agree more about you saying

        ” But god forbid you express any remotely negative opinion about a new pokemon or game feature ”
        you really hit the nail on the head there. People are going to like different things and hate different things. Yet blind stuborn “fans” cant deal with it if you disagree with them 😛
        Great to see you think the same as me 😀

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        • “Yet blind stuborn “fans” cant deal with it if you disagree with them”
          Like pointing out the similarity of a previous gen plot being recycled, then having a crazed fan try to disembowel you for daring to not worship each new generation as better than anything else that has ever existed? 😉

          I’m reading more of your comments, like you said – in hopes of trying to see that you’re better than just a blind, stubborn “fan” yourself, but you’re not really helping yourself.

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  11. You’re looking too much into what they site says. It does say, “This new pokemon…” but, this should only be taken as such in a sense that (a) it’s new, and (b) it’s a pokemon – that’s about it.They take the time to mention all the similarities between this new pokemon and Mewtwo, from its light-purple coloring to its eyes. Considering the title of the movie has to do with Mewtwo, and Mewtwo’s “Awakening” or that he “Awakens”, I would say it is safe to say that this has to do with an awakening of a newfound power (a power needed to defeat Genesect, perhaps?). He was created for battle after all. So, the unleashing of a new form would be the most appropriate – not a “literal” new pokemon. Also, as someone else pointed out, if Game Freak/Nintendo were going to make a “literal” new pokemon, seeing as how they have created amost 1,000 pokemon at this point, I am quite sure they have enough originality that, if they were going to make a second clone of Mew, it wouldn’t be so close in resemblance to Mewtwo; you’d see more distinguishable traits.

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  12. And just asa side note here, I think it looks amazing! I am extremely excited for this game! Having been playing since the original 1st Generation (Red and Blue), In my opinion, Generation 6 has the best pokemon designs so far since Generations 1 and 2.

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  13. Going to Pokemon.com and looking at the article about this bit of news, at the bottom of it is a history of Mewtwo.

    “The Legendary Pokemon Mewtwo”. Click the forward arrow and the next says, “Discovering Mewtwo”, which gives a flashback about seeing him for the first time. The next one is, “A Pokemon Engineered for Battle”. Next is, “The Legend of Mewtwo Endures”. Next is, “A New Chapter Begins”. A new chapter begins for who? Mewtwo, that’s who. Why/How so? I think it’s pretty obvious that Mewtwo “Awakens” a newfound stronger power/form (hence he was engineered for battle).
    The site doesn’t say it’s a “beginning” chapter for a “new” pokemon – no- it says it’s a “new” chapter for a familiar and legendary pokemon – MEWTWO
    I’m excited.

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  14. Going to Pokemon.com and looking at the article about this bit of news, at the bottom of it is a history of Mewtwo.

    “The Legendary Pokemon Mewtwo”. Click the forward arrow and the next says, “Discovering Mewtwo”, which gives a flashback about seeing him for the first time. The next one is, “A Pokemon Engineered for Battle”. Next is, “The Legend of Mewtwo Endures”. Next is, “A New Chapter Begins”. A new chapter begins for who? Mewtwo, that’s who. Why/How so? I think it’s pretty obvious that Mewtwo “Awakens” a newfound stronger power/form (hence he was engineered for battle).

    The site doesn’t say it’s a “beginning” chapter for a “new” pokemon – no- it says it’s a “new” chapter for a familiar and legendary pokemon – MEWTWO

    I’m excited.

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  15. I’ll be the first to admit, forms aren’t really an ingenius thing in the world of Pokemon, BUT, this is the first instance where a new form ACTUALLY MAKES SENSE. He’s genetically engineered for crying out loud!

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  16. Just a thought, what if this is a mew evolution? I mean they tried to duplicate mew but the coloration and proportions of the body don’t completely match unless the DNA was from an evolved mew. Whether its this, an evolution, or a forme I’m fine with it because the design is done very well!

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  17. i think this newtwo isnt a forme of mewtwo at all, maybe one of the first attempts of cloning mew but gone wrong therefore making him weaker than mewtwo. i can see this as a sort of pseudo legendary but its also unlikely because i doubt wed be able to normally find this calibur of a pokemon just in the wild…..still a complete mystery to me…

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