Now that we’ve all been playing Black and White for awhile, it’s time to sit down and discuss what we want in the third version (Monochrome, Gray, whatever they will call it…). What do you want to see changed? Improved? Added? And let’s stay reasonable. Here’s my list:
- More places to get exp for high level pokemon
- More interesting place than White Forest/Black City
- Improved plot (one that makes more moral sense)
Overall, I felt like Black and White were very strong additions to the main series. I’m sure you all have some opinions on what could have been better though 🙂
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Most of what I want have already been said. But here are some things:
-The First gym leader is a triple battle where you, Bianca, and Cheren are battling the leaders all at once. 3 on 3
-The final gym has you battling both gym leaders in either a tag battle style or just a double battle where the leaders have different pokemon and either 2 or 3 each
-Customizable characters
-maybe have a new rival, one for the opposite character that you did not choose. That would show a Ruby/Sapphire remake is coming
-higher level training grounds- new high level trainers, high level wild pokemon both in the new game in the Black City/White Forest area.
-Hopefully for the 3ds but is able to connect quickly to the Black/White
I hope the give more of a move sets to more pokemon (cough sereperior). 2 gym leader rematch. 3 we learn more about n and getisis.3 whe go to honen region and we team up with n on the new plot. 4 better places to train.
Back to Johto?? 🙂
Oeps.. Shouldn’t have done that 😉
It would be nice to see them put more Hoenn-related characters and information, since the third generation is almost 10 years old and like before that may mean a remake is possible. There was a lot of Sinnoh-related information in Unova, in my opinion. I am not a big fan of Cynthia, so seeing her return was a major disappointment and I felt they brought her back because she “reaches out” to older (male) players and some females too.
As for rematches, I created something on my Tumblr that has my predictions, http://melaugh.tumblr.com/unovarematches. I used the rematch formula for the Elite Four in B/W to come up with teams. It was a lot of fun.
@seriin- See this is my problem. There are some people who play Pokemon games and find them too easy, others find them too hard. I personally find Black and White perfect difficulty. I don’t play competitively often (Apart from Pokemon Online where I can choose everything…) and I just enjoy going through the story and having fun. You have to bear that in mind. Gamefreak’s target audience is not hardcore gamers, but kids. Kids don’t like things to be too hard. I agree, some slightly more challenging Gym leaders (Like the ones I suggested) would be great.
Having said that, they do tend to make the 3rd game the gamers’ game. It focuses less on trading and the social side of Pokemon and concentrates on battling, with Move Tutors, the battle Frontier, etc.. becoming readily available. So it will be harder. That’s only natural. But I want it to be only a little more challenging. I’m really struggling with a Duotype Scramble on HeartGold at the moment that originally was also a Nuzlocke, but I gave that up. And the Elite Four on Black are starting to irritate me… I completely forgot about routes 17 and 18 and can’t be bothered to go back…
So the short of it is that yes, they need to be more challenging, but only slightly so.
That’s why I suggested difficulty levels….
The ability to have rematches with Gym Leaders.
BATTLE FRONTIER!!!!!!! 😀
2 words: secret bases
Gym rematches are a must.
I’d like something to do in between the first time you beat the elite 4 and the second time
There won’t be Character customization and there won’t be difficulties. The closest we can get to Character customization is alternate outfits. At the start of the game they will ask if you are a boy or girl and you pick which ever one and a list of outfits will appear. Take Brendan for example(His RS and E outfits plus the blue one from the TFG).
Hi, I’m Belmad.
Alright, well…
*Needs to be on the 3DS. Use the system’s power to give us the truly stunning Unova that they were trying to show off in B/W.
*As much as it pains me to say this…go with 3D models. Pokedex 3D very clearly shows that the Pokemon can look great in 3D.
*New abilities for B/W Pokemon. They have them in B/W but are inaccessible without hacking the game. Maybe in Gray’s Unova all the Pokemon have their alternate abilities?
*Gym Leader rematches, Battle Frontier (preferably like Emerald’s), and more Triple and Rotation battles.
*The trainers of the region need greater Pokemon variety. It got rather tiresome facing trainers that had the 3 Monkeys over and over, or trainers that used Purrloin/its Evolution and the like. There are a heck of a lot more Pokemon in Unova, so there’s not much of an excuse to give them the same types of Pokemon.
*Speaking of Pokemon variety, switch up the locations of some Pokemon. Trubbish for example could be placed closer to Castelia, while other late-game Pokemon can be placed closer to the middle. I was incredibly disappointed that two of my favorite species of Unova Pokemon both appeared on Route 10, by which time I already assembled a good team to use for the Elite 4.
*Then there’s the obvious story changes and Kyurem form they will add.
*Perhaps some features I miss from HG/SS, like the menu always being on the touch screen (with C Gear relegated to a menu option), walking Pokemon, more battle modes, etc.
Also, while we’re on the subject of improving the games, I’d like to make a request for Gen 6 (whenever that may arrive): Next time, don’t very obviously leave out features of the game. It’s rather irritating to go from one of the best Pokemon games ever (HG/SS) to one that would be even better if it had some features from previous games. Diamond and Pearl did the same thing, by leaving out the Battle Frontier and Gym Leader rematches from Emerald. At this point, it’s becoming obvious that they’re doing these things to sell more games. The first two games need to be great, with the features intact. Then when the third game comes around, it needs to be good ON ITS OWN MERITS, not because it restored features and mechanics from previous titles. That may be a bit much to ask, but it’s obvious a marketing ploy to get players to buy the third title in addition to one or both of the first two in order to get the proper experience.
A good example of what I mean are the first 3 generations. Red and Blue started it and were great on their own, and then Yellow came along to make the sprites better and changed the story to make it more interesting. Gold and Silver were great already, yet Crystal again made changes to the story to make it interesting while adding some features. And while I can accuse Ruby and Sapphire of removing some of the Crystal features (day/night, animation), it otherwise overhauled the games anyways. Then Emerald came along and really made me appreciate the Hoenn region and overall just improved Ruby and Sapphire.
Part of the reason many of HG/SS’s features were missing was because development of Black and White started before development of HeartGold/SoulSilver did. So it’s quite likely they made the awesome HG/SS interface after B/W’s interface was completed and locked in.
Uh, no. They can’t make any main series games on the 3DS until the next generation. Granted, it would look cool, but they can’t just spontaneously switch consoles partway through a generation. Other than that, your points are totally on-the-mark.
The DS is on its last legs already, releasing the third game AND R/S remakes (which aren’t confirmed but let’s assume they’ll happen) on the DS would be completely stupid.
Mainly, i would like to have Reshiram, Zekrom, Victini shiny. That’s for me the most important ! Game Freak have an interest to correct this problem boring for the shiny hunters.
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is that a hint maybe?
but, it’s just a picture of kyurem? It could also be a download or something 😛
look at the attack its using :p
what attack is it?
ive never seen it before so i guess its one of those two ‘hidden’ attacks which kyerum most likely will have.
I think it will be something like Fusion Bolt and Fusion Flare. Maybe Fusion Snow or Fusion Ice?
Kyurem already has Glaciate (which is like a powerful Icy Wind) and I guess that Glaciate is the equivalent of Fusion Flare/Bolt. The 2 other attacks that Kyurem can know (although it is impossible to get them so far) are:
1) Freeze Shock(Ice Type attack):On the second turn, the user hits the target with electrically charged ice. It may leave the target with paralysis.
2)Ice Burn(Ic Type attack):On the second turn, an ultracold, freezing wind surrounds the target. This may leave the target with a burn.
As you can see, both the attacks induce a condition that refers to the other two parts of the Taio Trio… possibly meaning that if there is a third installment of Gen V, Kyurem could know these attacks
the attack is draco meteor
yeah but 2 me kyurem looks completed look at its horns they arent cracked
Move tutors, gym leader rematches, a new Kyurem form, and some pokes at Hoenn.
And gosh darnit, keep the sprites for at least the rest of gen V. 3D modeling takes too much for my computer and spriting is more fun anyhow.
don’t worry, i think they will leave sprites in this game and maybe in Ruby and Saphire remakes, think about it: if they change and make 3D modeling, there won’t be any way to connect the new games with black and white, you couldn’t battle people who have black and white
that’s my opinion, who knows what will happen?
My only request is a VS seeker or something similar. The lack of rematches gives B/W little to no replay value. Although there’s a chunk of the map left after the Elite 4, you can breeze through those trainers easy. JUST NEEDS SOME PIZAZZ, yadigg?
Also more shadow triad. and N. gimme.
Also unrelated slightly but Hoenn remakes so I can put that Dive HM to use.
How does the plot in Black and White seem to make less moral sense than you expected? I see no flaws in the plot. The graphics, though, in terms of overworld and battlefield, could be improved.
I know what you mean. The overworld sprites resembled 4th gen too much. and while the enemy moving sprites were flawless, the full body backsprites look pixelated. I’d also personally like to see a sidequest where you build on the origin of Klink, something mentioned later in the game but never really built on.
If there’s one thing and one thing only that I hated about Black and White it was the freaking story. I hate hate hate HATE the plot! Specifically, I hate how linear it makes the game feel. In other games, you get a big region to explore at your own pace, but in Black and White, your rivals are either one step ahead of you or one step behind you, and you’re always following after them. It makes it feel like you’re never ALONE and you’re never exploring an area for the first time because just when you think “gee, I guess I finally got away from the plot” it’ll pop back up again. It’s horrible.
Even Unova itself is horrible like that. Before you beat the game, the map is just a giant line! Seriously, look at it. You start in Nuvema and you end at the Pokemon League. It’s just Point A to Point B. Sure, maybe you go off the line once or twice, but there are no branched-off areas. Is that the biggest issue? Branches? GameFreak didn’t make any new branched evolutions, no branched-off routes… I guess I want more branches. That’s all. Rant over. You may carry on now.
@Similarity Agreed, Unova was too linear, as opposed to Sinnoh, which was twice as big, and more varied, with branching paths and stuff, Unova was also a little too small in my opinion compared to how HUGE Hoenn and Sinnoh were…..
On the subject of the plot, they could have done a bit better with it, such as making it a lot longer at the least, as it seemed quite short.
heard they made Unova like that becaue some retard kids couldn’t complete Platinum =_=
I honestly thought B/W was fun till about the 5th gym it got super boring nd dry not to mention the story was completely bs there’s tons of improvements thts needed to be done to the 3rd game no just added new areas or makin it challenging but make it atleast playable to keep people wanting to play we all kno kyruem gonna be the main pokemon of the the 3rd game nd just like platinum I’m sure they gonna change a lot because B/W seems like a rushed game too me with the unbalenced of types added to this gen to the unbalence teams the gym leaders have smh
I’d like to see the Game Corner come back! There should be an arcade floor where you could play Pokémon-related minigames, and a casino floor with an age limit and the original slot machines.