The fakemon above took PJN commentors only 20minutes to figure out, kudos to lumpaland for pointing me to the sprite that was actually designed for a fan project ‘Pokemon Lunar Dark / Solar Light‘.
The Tsutaaja evo sprite is something that popped up on 4chan the other night but may be legit. There is evidence that points to this being real.
PokeExperto says the new cat pokemon is a dark type as well. Take that how you will.
<3 pokejungle
Why won’t Melkor’s twitter update for me?
Because Melkors a douche
But people are talking about the cat’s evolution as something coming from his Twitter, which his website has but not his Twitter page.
The way I’m sort of looking at this is IF all of PokeExperto’s info is correct, then we’ll know to trust him from now on. However, if he’s been making all this crap up the entire time, then we can nuke his site with bombs of Pokefan fueled hate 😀
The whole incident from 07 is making the situation so complicated. I think i’ll just live with the evo’s and if they’re fake, wohoo, if the’yre not, wohoo as well.
Pardon me, but what was the incident in ’07?
http://www.pokeyplay.com/blog/2007/03/15/the-true-story-on-english-names-revelation/
So… Pokexperto had the English DP names ahead of time?
Yuuuuup
He did have all the names…He just used it to blackmail 😛
by the way both serebii AND wpm got banned over the english name of buizel, because they FLAMED each other over it
if this turns out to be fake, then count me in xD
Maybe this whole starter thing is pokexperto’s revenge for what happened in 2007 😮
This is getting juicy :p
possible new photography hiyappu in Infogames
say could be ice type and not water type
http://pokemonbwinfogames.mforos.com/
http://a.imageshack.us/img543/3472/hiyappuboappubyrafalanz.png
Its fake. It should be “ップ” not “ツプ”. Subtle difference.
Baoppu’s name is messed up in japanese. fake.
I doubt that site has ever been right on anything they post.
Wow why are people so persistent on making fake scans of the monkey trio?
The fact they posted a Tentaquil in the first place shows how retarded they are.
their seems 2 be a lot of pure types this Generation
more info from our friend melkor
his “random guess” in bmgf
17 Water Pokémon.
20 Grass Pokémon.
15 Fire Pokémon.
nice
what does it mean by random? he can’t count?
theres a thread in bulbagarden named “Black & White Speculation Contest – Final: Numbers of Pokémon”
he said in his post that it was his guess but i think its not random at all. he knows the exact numbers, thats why i used “”
There better be a prize for getting the closest numbers because if there isn’t that would be extremely childish(even though posting in a speculation contest after knowing “inside info” is childish enough)
There is a prize. As one of the staff in the Black and White section, I’ll make certain that the prize is awarded fairly.
lol and the flame wars on the starter evos continue. I really wanna see the looks on peoples faces if these turn out to be real or vice versa XD I’m just keeping an open mind as of now though my aqua senses are making me lean more on the real side as if these are fakes then out of all the fakes, these seem the most sugimori like. I’m heavily into art so I do pick up on style differences. However i’m still not holding my breath.. it still can go on either side of the coin. I’ll most likely end up ditching my starter half way through the game anyway >>’
I know right! The Look on WPM and Serebii. I like them, but it’ll be rich xD
Sorry WPM 🙁
So, 4chan posted that Tsutaja evo sprite? I repeat, THAT 4chan? They’re probably just trolling them Pokemon fans.
Back to the final evos, THEY’RE. FAKE. Seriously, GF can do better that that! Besides, that’s what all those fakers do, try to insist that they’re real. It is the Internet, after all, one person can easily claim those were leaked just to enjoy the fans rip each other apart.
I wish it was that easy
It was posted ON 4chan, but it was posted by Archaic, the webmaster of Bulbagarden.
Okay, then I take my first statement back xD
Ok so it was posted by BulbaGardens webmaster,but this does not prove anything.
Plus everyone these days are trying to create fake things and then they clame its real and everyone believes em since they own websites and everyone believes em!
PS-Does anyone know what happened to Jubilife Tv? Its been suspended 4 ages now!
hhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmm, one side of me wants these evos to be real as fire final evo reminds me of kane and thaat the water final evo learns m`horn, while my other side wants me to HATE MELKOR FOR TROLLING US WITH THE INFO ABOUT THESE EVOS, remember in 07 serebii was sent a prelim pic of 4th gen starters and dismissed them as fake, while other sites accepted them, as seen in his fake p`mon page, so wwwwwwaaaaaaiiitttt til next week to bust or confirm this, because there are a lot of TROLLS, so watch out for them
If the starters turn out to be fake this will be the like the biggest troll ever :O
I agree, whether fake or not this will go down in PokeHistory XD. But I do hope they are fake. It’s kind of suspicious how the starter evos are all coming from a similar source and others aren’t getting any confirmation. My fake senses are tingling >_>
Ok so I was browsing 2ch and found a valid point. looks like the pokemon pia thing wasn’t actually the cover, but a beta cover. that would explain why amazon doesn’t have that kind of cover.
But the site that this came from isn’t particularly special, and no other site has this.
great, now even the new york thing may be fake.
I saw that too, we’ll just have to see I guess 🙂
it is only a few days away, and someone can probably get it before the release date if they tried to. I’m kinda interested in the “original pokemon” thing. Don’t know why the silhouette is torchic though.
i hate about those fake starter’s evo!
They’re piss me off!
Especially pokabu’s 2nd evo (its so ugly in everytime i see its face), mijumaru’s 2nd evo (its coloring was probably wrong!), mijumaru’s 3rd evo (its not connected physically with the rest of it family, the shape was too different!), and tsutaaja 3rd evo (i always believe that every starter line always have a feets!) !
Btw, kurumiru in game sprite is kinda scary, especially its eyes.
I thirsts for… orange juice?
Unless they were going with a dragon look or a snake look I wouldnt be surprise if this is the only evolution that turns out true either poison or dragoin I consider it being more of a poison type who knows jesse might get tustaja final stage and it be a very lousy pokemon and is weak you never know since their changing the series up
I think I need glasses but,
…I think I’m seeing leafy hands in that sprite and when I look back at the previous picture of it I can see those hands again…O.O
I’m gonna go get my eyes checked.
ur not the only one i see them too
That Tsutarja evolution looks pretty awesome!
Unfortunately, though, I’m on the “the starter evos are fake” side of the argument, so I doubt it’s real. Since I’ll be picking Tsutarja and not the others, I guess I won’t really mind if these starter rumors turn out to be true :P.
Something is bugging me about Mijumaru’s supposed final form. Every aspect that remained constant in the previous evolutions is changed – the stance, the arms, the feet, the eyes, the mouth, the nose, the shells, the ears, the tail… And what the heck is that thing on its head? And it seems familiar, like I’ve seen it before somewhere, and it was recolored and edited to look more like Miju. Maybe I’m just imagining it.
remeber blaziken it looked nothing like cumbasketken
At least it looks cool, he’s my favourite fire starter after charizard :3
Yes, it does. If you really think blaziken looks nothing like the one before, then I geuss I have nothing to say.
Well Blaziken could still be connected to Combusken. Both have chicken legs and hands. Both have beaks. As Crimson stated above, nothing is related in Miju’s
sorry dude this argument is old and invalid
blaziken have a beak,chicken hands/feet,is fire type,have a color scheme than resembles a little combusken and is a chicken″ Thüm kyckz yu0ur AzsEs″
You are correct to an extent. They had many differences (much more than any other starters), but NL and Ai others have pointed out, they do have similarities. If you look at their art the overall design and concept was the same – bipedal, fiery chickens in fighting stances.
Have the admins of Pokexperto/Pokebeach acknowledged this Tsutaja evo sprite in any way?
If the sprite is not the same they have, it shouldn’t be a big deal for them to publicly dismiss it.
If it’s legit, they may admit it, but they would most likely choose to not comment.
I guess the best person to ask would be WPM, since he has seen the sprite given to him by Pokexperto, and should be able to atleast tell them apart. Does anyone know where the fake final Pokabu evo sprite came from? I thought it was from Pokexperto as a way of proving the pokemon were real, yet was found fake.
Some people are saying it surfaced on Pokexpterto, others are saying 4chan
People are getting too worked up over this. We will all find out sooner rather than later ALL of the Pokemon in Black and White. Obviously, we all have an issue with ANOTHER Fire/Fighting starter evolution. Gamefreak needs to learn the meaning of variation. That is by far my biggest argument with the supposed starter evolutions. I always pick the Fire starter, and I’m tired of using Fighting moves… But I will deal with it if I have to. No one WON’T buy the games because of the starters, so LIKE ME… Just deal with it people.
Actually, the biggest argument is how Mijumaru’s final form looks nothing like it’s first or second.
I just noticed that on Melkor’s twitter, he listed Tsutaja as #495, while Serebii and Bulbapedia say #494. I don’t remember for sure, but didn’t we see 494 as the official number out of CoroCoro or something? I didn’t think we just assumed that, I thought we had images explicitly stating it. Serebii and Bulbapedia also list Minezumi as #503, making me think these numbers are official, and Melkor made his up, basing them off of the Regional dex with #000 Victini coming before the starters and the rest of the pokemon.
Any thoughts?
Didn’t he say that was for the Ishhu dex?
The numbers he lists would put them in the National dex, though. Isshu numbers should be much lower. If he has Isshu numbers, just give those. Things have always been scrambled a bit between Regional and National dexes.
Good point. It would make sense for Victini to still be towards the end of the national dex, as the only purpose for it being 000 in the Isshu dex is so people can get it early and the amount of pokemon are not revealed in the Pokedex straight away.
On Pokebeach the forum people say that sprite of Tsu-evo is fake because the background is wrong: the pokedex BG is green and not blue 🙂 BUT WHO KNOWS not me
Read up and you’ll see that this may be the color for the nat. dex, or he swapped skins.(it says you can, although it was about DLC)
Not only is the Pokedex’s square-pattern background green, not blue, but pokemon do not overlap the background in it.
aaaiiii….melkor/pokexperto/starter flame wars ——> making my head hurt.
now i’m looking forward to the release JUST so it can all stop, and not for the new gen…..this is sad.
i’d actually rather do some studying at this point….and that’s saying something :/ what has this gen come to?!?!
LOL loving the current poll. you could say it’s on topic atm?
hey everyone man can you believe that black and white comes out in japan in 12 days? as soon as its released, all pokemon will and towns and gym leaders will flood pokejungle, pokebeach, and serebii. cant wait
Yup. I’ll just get my diapers ready for a leak. 🙂
Wait..
A flood?…I don’t think my diaper can hold a flood 🙁
we’ll probably get all this stuff earlier…in fact…i know for sure we will 😉
So Pokexperto claims that Victiny comes before from starters on national dex and then he lists national dex numbers and pokemon informations. Could we believe him? I mean Victiny before the starters??? WTH?
Victini has already been confirmed to be #000 in the regional dex, so it makes sense that it would be before the starters. I think it’s supposed to be to make it seem mysterious or something.
National Dex.
I assumed #000 Victini was Isshu dex, and for National Dex it would make sense for Victini to be moved to the other end of the dex like shaymin, manaphy etc. However it’s possible it could be between arceus and tsutarja in the national dex…but yeh it sounds stupid.
Hey guys, I just got some news from a friend of mine. His father works as a translator for gamefreak in NYC. Richard (my friend) and me grew up together, and we actually met up while we were playing Red version WAYYYYY back in the day. Kabutops was my favorite pokemon, and Richard’s dad gave me some inside info into the Gen V fossils 🙂 I was so excited. Well anyways, I’ll share because there were no silly rules placed on this info! This Gen there are actually THREE Fossil Pokemon, one each for physical attack, special attack, and one really good at defense. The physical atk fossil is a spinosaurus. The special attack fossil is a tyranosaurus. Finally, the defensive fossil is what he called an iguanodon. I had to look up an iguanodon, and it looks really cool!!! He said we’d find the fossils about mid-way through the game after we receive an archaeology kit. I’m pretty pumped for the T-REX!!! I’m still made he didn’t know the types though, but if you’re like me you’ll be happy with this! Hope everyone is enjoying Boise State be Virginia Tech!!! 🙂
PJ’s Note: Obviously not confirm-able
I LIEK TEH T-REX! I’ve been wanting one ever since gen 2 but havent gotten one yet….
hope its true also some thing thats makes me hope its true it the skeleton in the museum that plasma trys to steal
Hey, Pokejungle, have you seen this? I can’t take the credit for finding this page; a fellow Pokemon player over at Sonic Retro found it recently:
http://a.imageshack.us/img441/1655/okuraiopokemonmythology.jpg
This is pretty old news. I’ve seen it on the last couple of updates in the comments. Not to vouch for pokejungle, but I’m sure he’s seen it by now.
I don’t believe that guy’s arguement…
If he made it, why is he being so negative towards his own work?
Maybe he made them just to be funny, and he’s more mad at everyone’s idiocy for believing in them? I’m not sure, this guy could very easily be lying about making them. But at the same time, even if he didn’t make them, he does bring up a valid point.
Lol. Retorical question, but that makes a lot of sense. I saw this a couple of days ago on pokebeach and was surprised by the amount of resemblance to these other pokemon.
Though, I do think people are becoming to critical when it comes to these evos and so, they look for minor errors to prove them false.
I just don’t like the starter evolutions. Whether it be Sugimori or some trol who created them, I don’t like them…
Sometimes you are your art’s best critic. Knowing what went in to making something makes it easier to know when it is rubbish, even if it works aesthetically. I’m no artist, but when I made stuff in high school, I viewed my work unfavorably a lot more than others.
I can get that because I’m an artist(i guess a skecther) myself. 🙂
But I was joking around. Lol.
That’s what they invented smileys for huh…Should have used one there! xD
we have all seen it a couple of times.
Yep we’ve seen that a few times. Unfortunately, it doesn’t deny the authenticity of the starters’ evolutions supposedly = =
One can dream though…
So i read on serebii that their source for the starters is “a japanese forum” which would kind of make them not official (yet)
About pokexperto…. I dont know what to think but my first reaction when seeing the starters was “haha fake xD” but apparently they have very good info :/
I personally still think theyre fake, because they just seem that way to me, and starter evos have never been leaked before have they??
What i find worse is that people dont complain more about their looks and some are even like ” omg pokabu evo so cute” evrn though its the fucking ugliest thing ever
If this turns true those are the worst starters
Also, i wouldnt mind next time the otter actually being brown like normal otters the starters dont always have to have the same colors t.T
Okay i guess thats enough ranting xD
Sea otters have white faces, which makes Mijumaru’s evo invalid.
I love this site so much! Good Job PJ!
♥ Thanks!
yes this is my favourite pokemon site! u give rumours so its not boring! although when u said there’s a slim chance of them being fake i was really worried but thats not ur fault. But after all of this u could say there’s a slim chance for them to be real! it must be hard since stupidly u will get the blame if they turn out real( hope not) ;)!
Hey Pokejungle have you seen the pic of “Baoppu” (I forgot his name xD) on Pokeexperto’s page?
http://pokemonbwinfogames.mforos.com/ is it real?? cause if it was then they should have shown all 3 monkeys
It’s fake.
my bad its not his website…i think…..sorry i dont know all of the websites and who runs em i only visit yours lol ♥♥♥♥♥
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Has there ever been this much discussion over the authenticity of any previous pokemon? I just find it weird cause most real pokemon hav gotten solid proof quickly and this obviously still rages on. Just makes me think this could all be a very clever trick ;D hope they’re fake
What’s keeping them from being stamped “FAKE” is that serebii’s source(which is trustable) confirms it.
even with serebii’s trusted source he isn’t sure yet so until then until its a 100% i will still have an open mind