FAKE: First Alleged Gen VIII Details Surface

REMINDER: We discuss rumors not to pass them off as fake news confirmed information, but to stimulate discussion and highlight possibilities. Never treat this or share this as fact, because it is entirely unconfirmed information which may or may not be true.

The next main Pokémon title has already been confirmed to be a Nintendo Switch game, but not much else is officially known at this point. This hasn’t stopped some Chinese sources from sharing potential information about the game though. Our intrepid rumor reporter PokéSirena (you can follow her on Twitter) has helped us track down and translate the latest online gossip. These are from some of the same people who knew about Rainbow Rocket before it was revealed which is why we’ve taken particular note.

  • The Chinese localization team has already finished translating the games’ script
  • There will be no new Mega Evolutions introduced in the new games
  • Z-Moves return and now use motion control to activate using the Joy-Cons
  • Central plot revolves around the conflict between tradition and innovation
  • Region inspiration has been rumored to be Spain or Italy
  • Release to come late 2018 (~December) or early 2019

These details pale in comparison to what has also been said though, and that is the games feature a new, simplified battle system which has been compared to that of the Digimon World games. For those not familiar with them they use a real-time battle style in which moves are still selected via menu and include the option to attack or block moves from your opponent. It has also been compared to the battle system of Pokkén Tournament in which moves are either attacks, blocks or grabs and work in a rock-scissors-paper fashion.

If the above were to be true it would certainly be a change for longtime Trainers and could have the potential to disrupt the deep strategy game competitive players love.

What do you think?

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1,246 thoughts on “FAKE: First Alleged Gen VIII Details Surface”

  1. Oh god, if true, then I hope that motion control Z-Move can be turned off. It sounds ridiculous, and would look even stupider at tournaments.

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  2. I hate these rumours, only one of these sound actually nice and it’s the region inspiration. However, the other stuff are……not as good. At all. I despise the fact they instead are focusing on Z-Moves which I don’t hate but I’d rather have more new Mega Evolutions, despise the fact they’re using tradition for the second generation in a row, in which most likely there won’t be Gyms, and that the new battle system sounds like garbage. I’m sorry but if people want to play like a Pokken-esque version they can just play Pokken, not an actual mainline Pokemon game. Ugh, I’m desperately hoping these are false because if not this gen might be my least favourite, or at least one i won’t really enjoy.

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    • if this was true, the battle system is nothing like Pokken, Pokken wasn’t mentioned whatsoever, that kind of battle system wouldn’t work anyway,
      Mega Evolutions however are finished, that part is at least true

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  3. No megas and only focusing in Z-Moves sounds bad to me and I don’t see how a plot about tradition and innovation could work in a Pkm game but it’s probably something minor anyways. Only good thing is an italian region imo

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  4. “Central plot revolves around the conflict between tradition and innovation”
    This is the same as that Pokemon Plus and Minus rumor.

    Also, considering the location, I think that this is more likely fake than real.

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  5. This is so lame if true! Are they completely ignoring the fact that’s everyone loves megas and hates z moves??? WTF?! The battle system should be improved upon, not worsened up. This is so frustrating!i I cannot believe they’re going this route… and the worst part it’s that it’s likely real! Nooooooooooooo!!! ?????

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  6. I kind of like the new plot and the region, but everything else sounds horrible. If they’re really going to simplify the battle system, I feel like this will be the end of the pokémon franchise… Pls don’t kill Pokémon Nintendo. :/

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  7. I didnt get that thing of the new game strategy :/ its gonna be like pokkem tournament where you have an srea snd you can move free snd you have attacks that are move? Well its gonna suck if esch pokemon has movedet snd we cant change it but i’ll be imposible if they try yo create every single attack a new move for esch pokemon. We will have like 900 pokemon or more snd to create the animation of every single move its takes hard qork and planty amount of memory space and also you have to design for each pokemon. I would love it if they accomplish this but its kinda impossible

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  8. Interesting rumor. I personally hate the idea of z moves returning over Megas. And not sure how I feel about the possibility of the battle system being overhauled. Will reserve judgement until we get full confirmation of that.

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  9. Falsified and dating a male, especially if these games are for 2019

    Why would they simplify the battle system when they’re moving to a more complex console?

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        • I know, I know. I just meant that their Switch versions helped expand them size-wise and feature-wise, whereas these rumours make it sound like Gen 8 will be reverting existing features.

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          • that’s completely false as Game Freak themselves confirmed the Game on Switch will not be anything like BoTW, I don’t get how you think any of this sounds like Mario and Zelda and what they did, it doesn’t really and these are purely just rumours, not confirmed

      • Why simplify things? That would keep older fans away if they feel they’re being patronised, less will pay

        As long as there’s cute animals younger kids will keep playing

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    • Maybe they want to make a combat system that takes full advantage over 3d environments and that comat ended becoming simpler than that. But still doesn’t make sense like how can you make the current battle system simpler than it is?

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  10. I hated how there won’t be new mega evolutions honestly(like seriously, again??)
    I still never forgive Gen VII for skipping the opportunity of new megas and practically denied pokemon that deserves megas
    And now it looks like Gen VIII is doing the same thing, just makes me mad..
    As much as I like Gen VII, the no new megas bit is one big flaw I have with it(along with the concept of Cosmog evolving into Solgaleo/Lunala instead of SUMMONING them and the fact there is THREE Type Nulls in-game lore instead of ONE)
    I still find Gen VII to be enjoyable
    Although the SOS Battles needed to be worked on(like the option of allowing the wild pokemon to summon or not)
    And the framerates, Gamefreak really did pushed the 3DS to its limits there
    Hopefully Grn VIII will bring back Horde Battles while keeping SOS Battles

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      • Well why not get the one from him
        As in he gives it to you knowing Type Null/Silvally would be in better hands and able to be in better care(as in able to forget the past and have fun)
        This would well.. be more emotional and also adds more value in getting it than a extra one Gladion happens to have
        In fact honestly I wished did better with Type Null/Silvally
        Like give it forms based off of each Ultra Beasts, not have its credibility lowered by getting its poor but kicked by Guzma(honestly pretty annoyed in seeing Gladion lose to him like that, like seriously Gamefreak?)
        Maybe a post-story thing where Faba tries to reclaim the Beast Killer Pokémon from Gladion and in the end the player gets Type Null/Silvally to take care of it
        And probably have it switch between Type Null and Silvally at will(but still able to use Evolite)

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        • Mega evolution was the focus of gen 6. Gen 7 and 8 will focus on something else. People shouldn’t be surprised there are no new ones. They have gone past that.

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          • Mega Evolutions shouldn’t ONLY be in Gen 6 ok!
            Besides its pretty awkward how not all of the Starters gets mega forms
            Especially the Gen VI starters, which is ironic, like so ironic since its the gen megas debute in
            And its really annoying that some of the pokemon that DESERVES mega forms are practically denied of them because “its a gen 6 thing”
            Its not fair for them honestly

  11. Funny how the theme of the games is “tradition and innovation” while many people will love the new battle system because of “innovation”, on the other hand, many fans will argue the new battle system because of “tradition”.

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  12. Guys I really can’t figure out ultra warp ride… Even if I fly right through the orange spheres solgaleo sometimes just doesn’t pick them up… Also I almost always get sucked in by a random ultra wormhole…

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  13. I can’t say I’m happy or upset by these rumors because

    -I can get on board with a Rock Paper scissors style, will take a while, but PJ this wording makes it sound better
    -No Mega’s? Oh well I guess…
    -Z-moves back, not too shabby
    -estimated Release date is a good one imo
    -Ash’s collar means nothing, it’s a minor design detail! But Yes Italy region!
    -Good story focuses really sounds like a good option even though it sounds like that would be more a Chinese region type theme

    So I’m neutral, but hyped

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  14. Well the reason why I dislike the fact that the Nintendo Switch is getting new Pokémon Games is because I know the Nintendo Switch only came out this year but I’m not forking out the £200 or £300 that it costs no WAY that amount of money isn’t worth it in my opinion

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  15. Considering the rumours are suggesting it could be either Spain or Italy I think they’re trying to choose a Catholic country considering both are fairly Catholic religious.

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  16. I’m pretty sure all of Smogon would have a major breakdown and boycott Pokemon of this were true.. ?
    Though I admit… This would be hard for me to accept as well, starting from Gen 1.
    Also.. I’m very disappointed but the lack of megas…
    I know it’s not necessarily true but likely.
    It sounds like an abandoned idea they will now be forced to log around.
    Only kept alive by being on the backside of whatever they give us to use our Z crystals they seem more proud of

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  17. Question for y’all, what other fighting move should I teach my Lusamine? It currently knows Bug Buzz, Lunge, U-Turn and Brick Break.

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  18. It took ages for Nintendo to localize Zelda botw in chinese, and these guys are already done with pokemon one year before it releases?
    Meh.

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  19. Slightly random but sort of relates to this post I suppose. I seriously hope thy announce a Nintendo direct for January soon. I would love to see some new switch game reveals. Personally I am really hoping for a Luigi’s mansion 3

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  20. Tradition and Innovation eh? Not only that but “innovating” the “traditional” battle system Pokemon is known for? This could end up hurting or improving the the main series game as we know it, especially for the “competitive” side.

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  21. Don’t get me wrong, I like Pokkén quite a bit but I don’t think I’d take it well if the main series would have the same battle system. Part of what I love is the style of gameplay. It may seem antiquated or even archaic to some, but I don’t think that it has overstayed its welcome. Turn based games still have a lot of entertainment value, and if Pokémon were to abandon those roots, I may drift away from the franchise.

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  22. Where the heck is Meredith who gives you Swords Dance in Ultra Moon? I think she must have died or been kidnapped by some Flabebes, or she was sent to some insane asylum, as I can’t find her. I’M AT HER EXACT SPOT, and she’s not there. Really?!

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  23. Well today’s fakemon is based on my morning, it was pure garbage ergo my Pollution Poison type

    Wastenaut
    Bin Pkm
    Poison/Steel
    Liquid Ooze/Sturdy HA: Gooey
    A lime green snail like Pokémon made out of a gelatinous material, a lamprey like mouth and droopy eyes oddly it possesses thin arms and sticky fingers its back half of its body is housed in a tipped over steel drum

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  24. The rumors put forth in this article aren’t really worrisome. The only thing that is a red flag for me would be the comparisons made to other battling franchises and games on the changes of combat. However, Pokémon has skimped on post-game content in favor of features that make the competitive scene much more accessible than before. I don’t think that any changes to the combat system will be too revolutionary, because they do not want to alienate people from the competitive scene. What does have me a little worried is the conflict in the upcoming generation (traditions and innovations). Don’t get me wrong it is a great conflict to center a story around. What I am worried about is that they might take the Aqua vs Magma route with this and that might be an excuse for them to have two versions for Gen VIII. (As I know that some of the people here are disgruntled by versions).

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    • there WILL be two versions for Gen VIII, that will never change, it’s always going to be that way, it’s super profitable for Game Freak

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      • That wont work when the games cost 60 dollars each.

        People are more willing to pay 80$ than 100$

        Plus the Switch isn’t really made for that 2 people meeting up and trading with different versions thing.

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  25. I can see Z Moves coming back honestly, but not with motion controls lol I’ll buy the game regardless, but if they change the battle format it might be my last.

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  26. So , to all y’all peeps out there … my question is this. What kind of water starter do ya want in gen 8

    Another fish-
    Another mammal-
    Reptile-
    Amphibian-
    Birb-
    Crustacean-
    Something tendrilly- octopus, jellyfish, squid
    Some other invertebrate- manta ray
    Other- (comment and I’ll list it)

    I’ll tally the votes up and stuff

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  27. Supposedly Iwao said in an interview recently that they’re happy that people are enjoying USUM and that they will continue to hype up Pokemon in 2018 so everyone should look forward to that. I’d say while it’s not a given, it’s certainly another point towards 2018 being the release year for gen 8. Should be interesting to see.

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      • Never spin off. GF doesn’t make spin offs. It could just mean they’ll start talking about gen 8, but it could also mean the game might come out. Who knows at this point.

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          • Not preemptively tho. Also not nearly as much as the Pokemon company itself. They’d at most retweet stuff about said spin off. They never have any hands on spin offs and rarely get very involved in promotion of them.

        • TheUltramonster6893 there is no way it’s coming in 2018 BUT if it comes out early 2019 they will probably at least talk about it/reveal it mid-2018 for a early 2019 release

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          • I won’t say it’s definitely coming next year, but talking in definites isn’t a wise thing to do. It’s best to keep an open mind and not tell people that they’re out right wrong. At least not unless you know 100% fact.

    • They already said they would. They said that trials were a gen 7 thing only. Also what’s wrong with them changing things up anyway?

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  28. I got a terrible toothache deers, it hurts like crazy!
    Although i was curious, anyone know any remedies for it other than gargling warm salt water?

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  29. No doubt Gen 8 is coming within the next 12-18 months, and all of this sounds great. I haven’t played much Pokken but the dynamics of it are worth investing in.
    I’m totally changing the subject but DAMN, I set up my PSVR this morning and it’s completely blown my mind! All I’ve done so far are the Rez Infinite and Thumper demos (Thumper is incredible), and I’m waiting to charge my Move controllers to try Job Simulator. I am now more excited for 2018 than ever before!!!

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  30. I hate Litleo rn

    I want a damn Male one because the female is just flat out badly designed imo, but no they have the same chance as finding a female Salandit! I found a damn riolu before a male Litleo
    *Throws small table a toy car

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  31. We have to at least put some faith into them. I don’t want it to be true. Especially the part about the battle system. This is why I hate that the Chinese have legal access to the games now. They are leaking machines. They leaked a boat load of info for Sun and Moon.

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      • The can can make the combat much better if they make it in active time tho, and if they don’t take big risks then they won’t be able to improve much imo

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          • Simpler doesn’t mean worse tho. And having an active time battle system
            well executed would definitely be an improvement tbh.

          • If it is fun and also has a competitive side then sure it can be great if executed well. One reason lots of adults buy Pokemon and enjoy it is because of the competitive side as it causes people to think and it isn’t as easy to get good at. It takes skill.

      • Yeah well that’s a dumb saying in this situation because it means we can NEVER try anything new. We’re just going to play the same game for 20 more years with minimal change

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        • I’m not really on their side, but Tbh if diffrent battle system Spin offs sold as well as main series, we’d probably get a change in the main series

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          • *Cough*

            – Mario Kart
            – Smash Bros
            – Persona
            – Donkey Kong Country
            – Pokemon Mystery Dungeon

            Funny how there are numberous examples of this, yet you chose to ignore them to prove your point.

  32. The change to the battle system could either be good or bad depending on how it’s executed. We’ll just have to wait and see.

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    • I hope Game Freak honestly knows what they are doing. A lot of fans (myself included) are already up in arms about the possible changes to the battle system. And a lot of fans are expecting a high quality product from Game Freak, like what Zelda and Mario got for their debuts on the Switch.

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      • I wouldn’t worry about it. If the changes end up being bad and people don’t like it, they go back to the old battle system. If it’s good, they keep it.

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  33. Pokemon fans are awesome.
    Complaining about even the slightest thought of change. How about we see is this change is good or bad before complaining

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      • A big change we haven’t seen at all. The change might be objectively better in every way but people would still complain before seeing it because

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        • It is still a big change nonetheless. A change to the battle system like this means the way competitive used to work is right out the window. I’m honestly waiting to see if this is true and works great but I see why people complain.

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          • I can understand why people would be afraid for the future of comp, but unlike games such as Overwatch or League, Pokémon is a game where the single player or more intimate mutliplayer (casual battling and trades) are the main focus. This can really help Pokémon become a better experience and I don’t see why people are complaining but I can see why they’re worried. But you can be worried and not immediately take it to negativity.

          • I get what you mean but the thought of this changing may be a lot to people. Like a system you have gotten used to for years and have gotten good at it to just go away like that and you know competitive can’t work like it used to before. I guess though Gamefreak targets the casuals more anyway since they make up the most the fanbase. As long as this is really fun I can bare with it.

          • Competitive Pokémon honestly sucks. It’s incredibly unbalanced. If they changed the system, it could give them an opportunity to balance it or even do what I’ve been saying and turn the stadium series into a competitive focused game with team building and online matchups using the old combat system

          • Actually tbh what is worrying me here is that, as they say, it is like Pokken and stuff how would it work? Pokken took a whole year and only had like 21 characters. How will they implement all Pokemon into this and work? This is why I’m leaning a bit towards fake here but then again idk the details of this system.

          • How would you think this will work? The way they explained it certainly looks like every fighting game out there.

          • No. It’s because they’re trying to make a single player game competitive and it doesn’t work because not every Pokémon is made with comp in mind. Many megas are inferior to non Mega Pokémon

          • Mega Scizor isn’t even that bad and Mega Rayquaza is even banned even in official tourneys.

            Clearly your knowledge of comp is limited considering a lot of teams don’t even run Megas now that there’s new toys out there

          • I have played local comp. Tourneys of Gen.6 before and M-Rayquaza wasn’t banned in it

            So for most Comp. It’s banned, but not everywhere and at every event

            And dude… I go on Showdown what once a week for an hour to fight 3 matches, of course my knowledge is limited, but have you ever played in an official non-online tourney?

          • That’s not GameFreak’s problem. That’s a problem with your local community for not banning it. It’s banned by official rules.

            You can participate in something and not be knowledge about it and vice versa lol

          • No, but it doesn’t invalidate my point. Unless you’re an absolute pro, it doesn’t give you much Ground to stand on either. Megas aren’t that gamebeaking considering most of them have BSTs in line with the stronger regular Pokémon

      • …… It’s a rumour. And if it’s true how about we actually see how it’s implemented.
        Omg let’s complain because there’s a chance something may be different even tho we don’t know how different

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        • So cuz it is a rumour you can’t discuss it? Nothing wrong with discussing what the rumour is about. This alone shows it is a big change.

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          • My point isn’t that people are discussing. My point is how the Pokemon fandom starts crying everytime they hear someone talk about change. Ofcourse change may ruin it, and you should not have to like it, but at least give it a chance rather than shutting yourself to everything except of what you’re familiar with

      • This is better than no change at all really, we haven’t even seen anything about the combat yet like, it can be much better than the actual one

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        • Change would have happened regardless. It is a big change you are looking at here. I’ll wait to see how things pan out. Feel like it should be a 2019 release too.

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    • Inb4 it’s really bad and veterans of the series start to quit. I’m honestly on the fence about this. I hope that it’s not true to be quite plain about it. But if it is true, I guess we’ll see how Game Freak implements a Digimon/Pokken battle like style to the main games.

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      • Dude I’m literally playing tales rn and it can easily be implemented. Literally the only downside would be competitive and perhaps speed stat

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      • Zelda and Mario made extreme, potentially alienating changes and they’re amazing games. I wish people wouldn’t make change this boogeyman when in reality it’s a neutral force that is risky, but may take off extremely well and make the series even better.

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    • This applies to all fandoms, not just Pokemon.

      Also change isn’t hated cos it’s new, but because it”s never implemented as well as the original idea, or we are never given what we are promised, but as always we can give it a shot.

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    • Well I’ll be honest, I don’t think simplifying the battle system is something of importance, but if it turns out to be a good change then I’m all for it

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  34. If Pokémon fans were only ever given cake for dessert their entire life and they never had anything different. They would flip their sh*t if they saw a pie for the first time

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  35. Honestly, I think the best course of action would be for Pokémon to separate their singleplayer orientated aspects and competitive based aspects into two different games. Balancing both is near impossible and just damages both. Comp brings a ton of useless clutter and complexity to singleplayer whilst casual means comp can’t be balanced as well as it should be.

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    • The thing is that if they care enough for competitive to make a game just for it, I mean I know that worlds exists but the casual fanbase is still much bigger than the competitive one. (and the new battle system can also be competitive viable who knows)

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        • I’m not saying that they would remove worlds, like they can just make Worlds only have USUM for the rest of the years while new games with other battle system still get released.

          I’m saying that I don’t think they will make another game just for worlds

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  36. A battle system where I can dodge and block attacks is something I’ve kinda wanted as a kid watching the anime. If they can tell their Pokémon to dodge then why can’t I?

    I also always wanted something like combo attacks such as how Dawn would use bubble beam with Piplum then use Mamoswine to freeze it.

    They could do some Breath of the Wild Chemistry engine stuff

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  37. I just hope we still have our normal battle screens are still able to select from a menu and take turns and have the rock-paper-scissors mechanic. Taking turns and the rock-paper-scissors mechanic mean everything to me and what has made the series work for 20+ years. The other features like blocking moves and grabbing or whatever are fine. I don’t play competitively. I honestly think the people that are the most angry about these possible changes are ones that play competitively. Just as long as we are able to take turns like previous games and still do a rock-paper-scissors fashion that the series is know for, then I’ll be fine.

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    • PJ actually got me excited for a Rock-paper-scissors style

      It just sounds less… Idk what, but sounds more comforting then “Scrap everything you know about battling because a while brand new, complex style is making way”

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  38. Does the Switch have a mic? Cause I thought of voice commanding your pokemon as an option. Like the Switch could recognise names of moves and stuff like ”Dodge”

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  39. I think people are taking these leaks far too to heart when they’re probably fake. Zeraora hasn’t been revealed meaning that it’s probably the surprise for this movie, as we haven’t gotten cross Gen mythical stuff yet and it has nothing special about it besides its signature move.

    GameFreak and the anime deliberately co-ordinate mythical reveals because they’re literally cross promotion for the anime and games. So it’s not like the anime company chose this seperage to the games. Because Zeraora will be the sole 2018 mythical, this points toward 2019 being the launch date for PokéSwitch.

    Of course, there are a variety of different things that could happen that could null this, but I’m just not seeing it tbh.

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  40. Reboot the whole damn thing. Dying franchise who keep making the mistake of catering their product to kids when the majority of their customers these days are (young) adults.

    If Pokemon wont do this, they wont make it to gen 10.

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      • The prequels are sh*tty ass movies. I like them and will watch them, but the writing and generally the acting are just not good. Anyone who is saying that last jedi is objectively worse is just a biased idiot who doesnt WANT to like the new movies.

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  41. I’ve had the idea that maybe there’s an option to change whatever the new standard battle system is to the old turn based. Sort of like how now we have the set and switch options.

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  42. Z-Moves being kept over Megas makes sense because whilst they’re not anywhere near as exciting, they’re easier to balance (every Pokémon can use them) and are more efficient to pump out (they don’t need new designs, just new animations).

    Would it be disappointing if Z-Moves stayed over Megas? Would be for me. But is it surprising? No.

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    • The thing with megas is that once they make one they basically have to include it and a way to get the stone in all future titles. But they can remove z moves at any time and there’s no change

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      • They introduced Megas with the perfect way to retgone them. They only exist in select timelines. If they want, they can easily remove them.

        And I do think they’ll keep Megas, I was lore meaning it makes sense why they’d focus more on Z-Moves. I do feel Megas will stay as a post game thing

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    • It’s surprising to me because Z-Moves really felt like an Alola only thing, but not only that, how can they implement new Z-rings with gyms in a pkm game? Like they’d just give Z-Crystals instead of Badges? Because trials really felt like an only Alola thing as well

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  43. The only issue I have is how the localization team would even know about a change in combat. They would know story details of course, but not an alteration to core combat. Personally, I like Pokemon combat how it is. We’ll see if there is an actual changes. I feel like Wi-Fi Battles would be extremely different if dodging, blocking, and the sorts were added to the title. Honestly, it’s too early to say. We’ll just have to wait for more information, which is obviously coming next year.

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  44. Z-Moves are a pretty bad mechanic compared to megas.
    Most of the time in compe, a normal item is better rather than a one time move and a Pokemon getting a mega is much better for it then getting it’s own z move.
    So it’s incredibly stupid that they stopped with megas.

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    • Taking turns is the most likely thing to go if there’s an overhaul, but four moves is much more secure and they’re never going to remove the type chart.

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  45. Is anyone else happy that conversation is actually about the article? Way better than petty USUM drama and redundant starter wars :p

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  46. Retain infinite TMs, Ride pkmn (and expand on them). Bring back seasons, compatibility with Bank & older games. Add option to have the first pokemon in your party outside its ball like HGSS (optional)

    Take the combat system of Ni No Kuni 2

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  47. People are afraid of change, it’s normal, but I think change is always welcome as long as you don’t kill the foundation that was built for the past 20 years

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  48. The thing that I found interesting that I learned a few days ago is that Reggie Fils-Aime said right after E3 when the game was announced to be in development that the Switch game would be a “traditional find, battle, train type experience.” So that could potentially backfire on the rumor’s face, though it’s hard to argue with Chinese leakers that got two of the three points for USUM right in the story on Pokejungle back in October. I honestly don’t know what to believe anymore. The Chinese are just too damn leaky now that they have legal access to the main series games. Look what happened with Sun and Moon. A complete disaster. We knew everything months in advance thanks to that “Riddler” guy.

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  49. Well guys, I think that I’m going to take my leave. I’m going to have dinner and watch Episodes 15 and 16 of Chuggaaconroy’s Black and White Let’s Play to get my mind off of things. Thanks for the good discussion as always! Good night everyone!

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  50. Pokemon battles can be harder then a chess game because of natures, abilities, strategy etc. I don’t want them to become another pokken game where you simply attack and block attacks.

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          • But Star… Even if its a stupid opinion to you, it’s his opinion. Yeah the wording may be a bit odd, but that’s what he thinks and if that’s how it is to him then he’s not wrong, but he’s also not right as there is no real way to say how it works for everyone because everyone is different.

          • It’s that she wants the game to change because she feels it needs to. While most others are ranting and complaining that shes wrong and that disheartens her and makes her angry and upset

          • That’s understandable and I agree with her on the game needing change however joker above is just stating his opinion, she shouldn’t be attacking him.
            Maybe I disagree would have been more appropriate.
            Oh well we’ll leave it.

          • Yeah. I think I’m starting to actually see into the Jungle and how people here are

            I was going to post, but have the feeling it will be ignored for being extensive, a bit overwhelming to some and most will do exactly what it contradicts, say I’m wrong as its about how opinions aren’t right or wrong and how many here I think believe in differing opinions, but they believe that opinions can be wrong (Which actually science proves that opinions aren’t right or wrong)

          • Same here :] I’m also beginning to or have already understood this jungle.
            Most of the junglers are great and cool.
            Then you get one or two individuals who are rude, immature and childish.
            Then you get many junglers who don’t say anything when one jungler is rude but will burn anyone else.
            Then you get me, you and many others who are laid back but willing to defend other junglers respectfully.
            But overall this place is quite relaxed save for a few individuals.
            I try to not let the negativity effect me and do whatever the heck I want.
            I mean it’s only a website, not like its IRL so it’s nothing major.
            :] :] :]

      • Hey guys I think you all just read my comment in the wrong way 🙂 My simple point was that I don’t want pokemon battles to change from brain strategy to kick hard. I mean if anyone wants a kick hard game can buy Pokken, I don’t see why a main core game has to fuse with Pokken when it’s been years that people prepare strategies for World Tournaments and online competions.

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  51. Is it bad I’m more excited for an animal crossing switch (which isn’t even confirmed) than for pokemon switch? >.>

    I guess it’s just that the problems I have with the AC series are so minute. But with pokemon you never really know what you’re gonna get. USUM has kind of left a bad taste in my mouth I suppose.. That said, I am very much anticipating Pokemon Switch. I think this will be THE most important game they ever put out and I really hope they do right by it.

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    • What really turns me off is that GF are either afraid or just blind to realise they have to change it up. Nintendo did with Zelda and look how that turned out.

      I’m not saying a full out open world Pkmn game because that would be hard to do, but maybe something like Odyssey. Smaller, seperate areas but make them sandbox style for free exploration. This could be larger routes or make another island region idk man

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      • You made me realize that I think a lot has to do with gamefreak’s attitude.

        -Didn’t give us battle frontier because they didn’t think we wanted it (Obviously not in tune with the fanbase if you honestly think that)
        -Said not to get our hopes up for Pokemon Switch (thanks, that builds hype!)
        -Just the whole USUM “marketing” and delivery of the game. It’s half baked and a cash grab. I’d be able to swallow it more if it wasn’t two versions. As is, it’s basically just an extra $40 so that you can catch blacephalon/stakataka

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      • BotW did NOT change it up, they returned to their roots.

        BotW is basically modern TLoZ.

        THAT is what made it good. They removed the changes they’d made for the rest of the games and went back to how it used to be (they literally started with the original game and developed a 2.5D version based on it first as seen in the making of trailers), then added open world elements.

        They do not need to change core aspects of the game.

        If you don’t like how it is currently, you can and should stop playing because you don’t like the game.

        What they need to do is return to their roots and go more open world like it used to be and bring back the dozens of features they’ve removed while also adding to them/adding new features.

        If you want something else, play the side seriesthat has that type of battle or request a new side series be made with whatever type of battle you wish to see, don’t demand they screw them up for those of us who actually DO like the games.

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    • I don’t think so, it’s not like we have much to go off of. We all expected a Pokemon game for the Switch to come out eventually, so its confirmation isn’t anything special.
      I’m not very excited either. Perhaps that’s because I’m generally apathetic about everything.

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      • I probably won’t be excited about gen 8 until at least I see what the graphics will look like. I think we’ll be able to tell a lot about the game from just one screenshot

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    • I think it’s because animal crossing doesn’t really oversaturate itself whereas we literally just came off a Pokémon game. I’m also way more hyped for other games even though I really enjoy Pokémon

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  52. If I have to physically do the Z-move dances with the controllers in hand it’s plain not happening and I’ll never use a Z-move ever again.

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    • I would like to see some more, but I also prefer new Pokemon, so if it were a choice between the two I would have to pick the latter. Also they need to do better than Fugtrio and Pincushian.

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      • I don’t think is a lazy thing, almost every design of pokemon has a meaning, love the blonde dugtrio and his meaning, or the fire dancer marowak, and ninetales is just gorgeous, Its just like the real animal kingdom, and GF dont just revamp old Pokemon, instead add new meaning of old pkm.

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        • Sure but they’re just using an old idea and just adding on to it, instead of makingg a completely new Pokemon. I just don’t think they should focus on regionals more than actual Pokemon.

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      • In a way I agree with this, though I do love Alolan Muk, Marowak, Ninetales, Snowslash and Raichu and wouldn’t want them to replace the originals either. I think the more drastic type change ones are probably more worthwhile but conceptually they couldn’t all have followed suit. I think it’s a nice way of showing environmental effects on Evolution in the series outside of say, branched evolutions. Would you have been OK with them if they were branched evolutions with different names and numbers? I sort of feel Alolan Muk could actually have been a Muk evolution if it were bigger and with a small design tweak.

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        • My issue is more with the fact that none of the current regional variants didnt need this treatment (could argue maybe the Vulpix line because they were pretty irrelevant but thats about it). I like the idea behind them, because it really gives the idea that pokemon can adapt to climate changes like regular animals, but they dont really add anything to game as a whole except for maybe A.Vulpix/Ninetales

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          • They could have used tons of other Pokemon, who didnt add too much and could have become better by giving them a different typing and movepool. Like for instance the Ledya line, pretty darn average now but a regional variant bug/fighting could make it a lot more viable.

            Instead they give us thrash like Raticate and Persian, whom barely anybody liked to begin with

          • They just took the most recognizeable gen 1 mons and gave them reskins to pamper genwunners. The concept at its core is pretty good, but they’ve done nothing with it. I hope it doesn’t come back unless they get their act together

          • genwunner-pandering aside, alolan forms were my favorite concept they’ve ever done and i’d love to see them do local forms for non-Kanto pokemon in gen. 8!

          • Regular Muk is entirely forgettable in competitive, Alolan Muk is OU because it’s practically a hard stop to Tapu Lele and has a fantastic typing. That’s what a fair few Alolan were meant to be, with Alolan Sandslash essentially being a Hail-themed Excadrill and all.

      • Or because, from a resources standpoint, it’s easier to tweak an existing model and keep the animations rather than make an entirely new Pokemon and animations for it?

        A lot more goes into making pokemon than just creating front and back sprites now, you know.

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    • I also enjoy the regional variants. They’re an interesting take on actual evolution and offer old possibly forgotten Pokemon a new chance to shine.

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    • F**K regional variants, BRING BACK MEGASSSS!!!!!!!!!! Alolan Exeggutor would have worked so much better as Mega Exeggutor instead.

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  53. After watching this history of Hyrule video with updated info from BOTW, it made me wonder why they didn’t choose to complete the story. It would’ve been wonderful to see Hyrule being restored, the castle and surrounding areas clear of Ganon’s corruption, and everyone celebrating and relieved of the end of the threat. I wish they’d change their mind and make a 3rd DLC, or at least an update with cutscenes of post-canon and some new side quests.

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  54. So the game is supposed to come out December 2018 or early 2019, yet the script is supposedly complete and fully translated? Not buying it

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    • neither am I, I doubt that the game is anywhere near completion, that or they have been developing the game since before Sun and Moon, something that is a decent possibility.

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    • You act like script completion = game completion
      You think a movie is ready for release once the script is done? No, all scenes need to be filmed and edited over the course of a few months
      You think creating an entire game can be done overnight once the script is finished?

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      • In video games, the script is typically of the last things finished, done only a few months or weeks before a game launches. Even if they somehow completed it, the translation into Chinese probably isn’t high up on their priorities considering the Switch hasn’t released in China yet.

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  55. Maybe we’re reading into the battle system thing wrong. “Feature” doesn’t necessarily mean replace, in fact we could have an area in the new games similar to the Battle Royal in SM or the Triple Battle in BW where they could just focus on this new battle system. Since the theme is allegedly “tradition vs innovation”, the game could have the normal battles (tradition), and this new area of battling as innovation.

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  56. So, I finally got Overwatch for PS4 (But it’s taking forever to download all the updates), as well as getting Unlimited World Red (I heard it wasn’t good, but it seems cool) today.

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  57. You’re kidding about No New Mega Evolutions right. They were a great addition in Gen VI, and there’s more Pokemon out there that certainly could use them. Pretty thankful we are for their introduction, they even made improvements to Existing Pokemon out there, even with Lucario in Smash 4. I mean when it comes to the Potential Sinnoh Remakes there’d have to be some way of Toughening up the Fully Evolved Sinnoh Starters like what was done with the Fully Evolved Hoenn Starters in the Hoenn Remakes. Sooner we see Mega Seviper, sooner there’ll be a Poison/Steel Pokemon, and sooner we see Mega Luxray, sooner there’ll be an Electric/Dark Pokemon. So please, will you kindly withdraw what you had to say about Mega Evolutions? Again, more Pokemon out there could use em, especially a good amount from Gen IV:
    *http://static.pokemonpets.com/images/monsters-images-800-800/8023-Mega-Arbok-Black.png
    *http://static.pokemonpets.com/images/monsters-images-300-300/8147-Mega-Dragonite-Blade.png
    *http://static.pokemonpets.com/images/monsters-images-300-300/8224-Mega-Octillery.png
    *https://orig00.deviantart.net/c7ba/f/2016/257/f/b/uiefxy8_by_amazen_megas-dahnhhq.png
    I’ll also have you know that only 1 Pokemon of Gen V and VI can Mega Evolve at the moment.

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      • Will you people get it through your head that Megas are a gen 6 thing only? They don’t want to make new ones. Gen 7 skipped out on it because they are done with them.

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      • I mean if this New Region is going to be literally connected to Kalos, if it were to be based off Italy or Spain, they definitely would have a good amount of connections like Johto and Kanto did. If entering Kalos post game were to happen, that region certainly won’t be the same without Mega Evolving Pokemon and other cool aspects it had to offer in X&Y.

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  58. Isn’t it weird that the script is allegedly done but they still can’t tell the difference between if the game takes place in an Italy based region or a Spain based region?

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    • This is the same guy who said that the Alolan starters leak was fake. Man doesn’t like it when someone else supposedly has their hands on info before him and always disregards it

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      • because at the time, they weren’t confirmed. better off calling them fake until proven otherwise, luckily for us about a week or so later they were confirmed.

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    • Well, TBF, almost nobody here likes most of these rumours so hey, if they’re not true then it’ll be more of a relief and or celebration than a disaster!

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    • Too bad USUM not being on the Switch was not the problem. The problem with USUM is that their prerelease marketing was god awful, it wasn’t a sequel, and the game doesn’t change enough to justify two versions

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    • I think what some people are forgetting about USUM, is that those two versions were basically made by the more inexperienced members of the game development team, while the more experienced members of the game development team were already working on something else.

      no doubt, that they were working on the Switch versions, just what they have in store is the great unknown at the moment. as the only things confirmed is that we are going to get a Switch game for the main series of pokemon and that they are already working on it.

      USUM, was basically a cover, to hide the fact that the more experienced team members have already been working on the new generation, but leaving the inexperienced team members to gain a little bit of experience on developing their own take on the Sun and Moon versions, it might not have got the desired results and could have been better, but at least we know GF are working on the next generation, still don’t know what it is, and people can only speculate at this stage.

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  59. No new Megas? That’s fine, figured that’d be dead after VI anyway.
    We’ll probably not see regional variants again, either.
    Z-Move motion could be neat. Optional is the best idea if being included.

    Masuda has tweeted about Spain; he also tweeted that picture of him surrounded by enemy leader pokemon. Spain as inspiration definitely gives good fuel into tradition/innovation as the overall theme.

    Going the Digimon World route means they’re looking into this even more of an RPG, and probably try to make it feel closer to how the anime is so free battle. While I’d like the system to stay as is, this new one could be interesting enough.

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    • the best part about this possibility is, that the next set of games could be another set of bi-region games, since we all know who Spain shares a boarder with as well.

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    • Honestly I am still miffed that SM didn’t have new megas(and hated how USUM botched the opportunity to fix that part)
      The fact Gen VIII is doing no new megas is worse
      Megas seems too much to dump with that “its a Gen VI only” excuse
      Especially since it directly effects the Pokémon itself and not the things outside of that
      Its also annoying how none of the pokemon we want to see get megas is practically screwed over from getting one

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      • that’s because 99% of the experienced members of the development team were already working on something else, that left an inexperienced team to work on USUM.

        And considering what is being rumored there is a decent chance that the next gen game could be a bi-region game with us re-visiting Kalos again, but that is only a slim chance and nothing has been confirmed yet.

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        • I wonder if they will add in the counterpart to the Catacombs?
          Its odd how its not in Kalos, would have been perfect for ghost types..

          As with the inexperienced working on USUM pretty much makes me wished the experienced ones also worked on it honestly
          So what more could be added on there
          Maybe even doing something with the 3rd Type Null
          I still don’t like how there is 3 of them instead of ONE Type Null
          Hoping they do something more with Silvally in Gen 8, it felt like more could have been done with it

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  60. Wait Kurusu I done remembered something important about Minerac

    IT TOTALLY BLOWS CHUNKS!!!!
    It leans NOTHING good until level 21

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  61. Just watched GameXPlain’s video on the newest rumors for Pokemon for Switch. So apparently, the details in bullet points on the article are from the Chinese source that correctly predicted Team Rainbow Rocket and Molayne’s inclusion into the E4? While the “new, simplified battle system” rumor is from a couple of different sources entirely? Is that correct?

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  62. I hope that if the theme of the games is innovation vs tradition that we have traditional battles that the series has been known for as well as whatever this “new, simplified battle system” will possibly be. That’s something that I can get totally get behind.

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  63. Honestly these rumours can be actually damaging because people take it to heart instead of taking it as a rumour. Rumours might always damage Pokemon now since they seem to be happening way too much

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  64. First off, the game doesnt sound too pleasing to me from what it said. No new megas, but more Z moves? Seriously? It honestly sounds like they regret having megas in the first place. They make this huge feature then only put it in two games, and make it very hard to get in the next game.
    Cool plot and region.
    I DO NOT want that battlng system. It sounds awful for pokemon. It might as well be Pokken or Mortal Kombat. This reay made me lose interest if it is real.
    Secondly, is Pokemon sage done or something? why is everyone talking about it

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  65. How to tell Pokémon fans play like two games: they can’t comprehend major mechanics changes for the life of them.

    PokéSwitch isn’t going to be a fighting game, they already have a Pokémon fighting game. If anything, combat would be more like Final Fantasy or Xenoblade (but simplified) because I can’t see Pokémon changing from anything but a JRPG

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    • Lol who is saying that the next game is going to be a fighting game, it’s been compared to Pokken but only its rock paper scizor mechanic and not its whole thing about being a fighting game

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      • I mean. Look down for two seconds and you see one example. And it’s a sentiment other people shared like yesterday lol. People think it’ll be like Pokken as in a fighting game whereas PJ was using it to refer to the real time movement whilst relating it to something Pokemon fans are more likely to understand

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          • What? I just used you as an example of that misconception, I’m not judging you for that misconception. If there was any snarkiness in that post I was talking to the person who missed an example of the point right in front of them, not someone who misunderstood a point: which everyone does at some point.

            Not everything needs to be drama dude

          • Ehhh, I knew about Casco’s comment before making my post, I just didn’t take it as an example because he shortly after said that he misunderstood the point when star questioned him.

            I was just curious to see if there were people that really thought that 😛

  66. https://twitter.com/JynxClub/status/945988718573137920

    UPDATE: She responded to my tweet and said “I think it’s more likely to be Gen 8 than any remakes.” Really confusing. I hope it’s Generation 8 and a new region. Not Kanto Remakes. We’ve had enough of Kanto references and catering. I wouldn’t mind though if it was a Sinnoh Remake.

    Has anyone seen this? PokeSirena completely contradicts herself from the news she shared with Pokejungle yesterday and says that the Rainbow Rocket leaker now says the next game for Switch could be Kanto Remakes. So the upcoming Switch game may not be Generation 8. I’m so confused. There’s way too many sources that conflict with each other.

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  67. I think I will only believe the thing about the Chinese localization team being done on the script, the plot, and the region potential. To be honest, they need to use this game to grow the pokemon world. I want them to have people in this game talking about other regions, and some events that might of happened there so that the Pokemon world has some more expansive world building. I don’t think motion control z moves will be a thing. I think the devs aren’t dropping mega evolutions, but I do think that this mechanic will be used every couple of regions and then cycled to something else. Also Italy/Spain, would make a little bit of sense if they wanted to have region that could potentially connect to Kalos. I think we will see tons of rumors, so it’s best to sift threw them.

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  68. Pokemon Unionist And Indipendentist (how is it writen?) (Spain)
    Pokemon Pizza And Pasta (Italy)
    YEEEEEEAH! F1NALLY A S1MPL3 BATTL3 S1ST3M! TH3H 0LD 1 VVAS 2 D1FF1CULT! KN0W N0T 0NLY 6-Y3ARZ 0LD BUT 3VEN 2-Y3RZ 0LD CAN PLAY! YEEEEEEAH! TH3 FAT TT5T C0MPET1T1V3 D13S D035’||T M4TTER! YUPPYDUH!
    Really, I hope that these leaks are false, or at least that it was a false part to not be reported by Nintendo/TPC/GF. I am convinced that now pokesirena is laughing at us.

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  69. To clarify something i see people elsewhere misunderstand, PokeSirena isn’t the leaker, she just gathers rumours regardless of whether she personally believes in them or not from sources that are either gaining a lot of attention or gave her reliable information before. She’s not a leaker herself.

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  70. Since people are still talking about the battle system.
    I don’t know what simplified refers to, and I don’t know how they plan to change the battle system, but I’m sure gf will never overhaul the battle system.
    Think about it. A major change to the battle system would mean changing how all the moves,items, and abilities work and I really don’t think gf will do it.
    However the battle system is in the future, it will be a system where all the existing moves,items, abilities can still function like before.

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  71. @TheLastKurusu:disqus The mega construx Blastoise is really cool :O I can’t wait to see how the Venusaur one turns out. Hopefully it comes out sometime next year

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    • Skipped to halfway through because i thought it’d be boring but like damn, that’s super interesting. I know i couldn’t speedrun :p

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      • This guy does videos on the history of speedrunning for a bunch of games. His Super Metroid one is my personal favorite mostly because that game has a crazy history.

        I’d say check em out my dude

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    • Hey it’s SummoningSalt, that one Punch-Out World Record Guy who Appeared on one of ProtonJon’s Streams while he was playing punch out and talked about glitches

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    • Speedrunning is such an interesting practice tho, like the amount of skill and the curious tricks people execute to breeze through the game really makes them worthwhile to watch 😮

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  72. Real talk here:
    It’s highly likely that the game’s story and mons were completed at this point. It’s said they had ideas for this game since 2012. I imagine they’re probably still working on making the actual game since I doubt it was originally intended for switch (Mainly cause you know who thought the switch wouldn’t perform well).
    Yes, I do imagine that SOMETIME this year we’re gonna get smackalackadingdonged with the hardest of information

    Here’s what I do and don’t believe

    1. A battle system overhaul is basically impossible. No doubt the interface is going to look extremely different soon enough, but an entire overhaul is unlikely at best. I imagine that if anything the actual ease might be amplified. Sorta like how SuMo added in the “super effective” notifier over your moves to tell you what beats what or how it added in a thingy letting you see stat drops. So basically, expect fine tuning, not revolution
    2. We had people who believed Sun and Moon were going to be based in Egypt before the leaks came out. As much as it seems to be hinted, we all know game freak and I 100% doubt that either of the two speculated regions are going to actually be where the next game takes place. (I have reason to believe the next region will be mountainous but I digress). As of now, we have no actual proof of what it will be so try not to get your heart set on a region yet
    3. I’m not sure if y’all have noticed it but GF likes to tie in shitt with their console’s features… at least for the first game. DPP had stuff like the poketch to utilize the touch screen, X and Y tried (and failed) to utilize the 3d enviroments of the 3ds. God as my witness when I say this, the joy con motion controls are going to be utilized in SOME way. Idk how but trust me on that.
    4. Gen 8 may just be the start of a new story… or…. (god forbid) a brand new timeline
    You see, think of how USUM was marketed
    Not as the end of the 3ds era, but as a culmination of the past 20 years of Pokemon as a whole. (To be fair, a disappointing conclusion is fitting for the 3ds era, but the rest kinda got cheated out).
    This game is going to be something brand new, in a sense. Think black and white. In some regard or another, this game WILL be a new experience.
    5. GF is waaaaaay further into this project than anyone probably expects…. rumors say this was planned since 2012. I’s not hard to believe when you really think about it
    6. Finally, this game will 100% come out in 2019. There is LITERALLY no question about it. 2018 is faaaaaarrr too early for this game to come out. We might know about it in 2018, in fact maybe it might even pop up in E3 and shock the masses. Point is, we certainly won’t have it until 2019. My prediction? In the summer weirdly enough

    Feel free to screencap this, argue or insult me, and possibly even agree with me. These are just some thoughts of an avid Pokemon fan with an anime girl for a profile pic

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  73. ***Random fact***

    Pokemon types listed from the most common to rarest.

    Can you guess them?

    (●´ω`●)

    Common to Rare:
    1.Water
    2.Normal
    3.Flying
    4.Grass
    5.Psychic
    6.Bug
    7.Fire
    8.Ground
    9.Poison
    10.Rock
    11.Fighting
    12.Dark
    13-14.Steel-Electric
    15.Fairy
    16.Dragon
    17.Ghost
    18.Ice

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      • Honestly Ghost types need some more attention
        Maybe resist fairy types(like evil vengeful spirits overcoming those things and tormenting them)
        Especially since Giratina doesn’t need another weakness honestly for me
        And I notice ghost types seems to be quite low(?)

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        • That’s true. More ghost types would be cool. I’d like an entire area of a region to be dedicated to ghost types. Maybe a bigger graveyard that’s scary and dark. Plus a haunted Mansion or deserted town

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          • Honestly Dhelmise should have gotten a evolution, maybe a ghost ship form
            Or maybe a separate ghost ship pokemon that hangs out with Dhelmises

          • honestly that shouldn’t prevent it from getting an evolution much
            In fact a few of the new pokemon here looked like they were supposed to evolve/felt ‘incomplete’

          • Apparently I forgot megas for that thing
            Maybe a mega form for it or something..
            Speaking of megas, I wished all of the Starters got megas

          • They’re both RU and have hazard removal, recovery, and a trapping move. Dhelmise has a weaker Ghost STAB but a higher offence, and it trades being a tiny bet less specially bulky for higher physical bulk. Dhelmise consistently hits harder whilst Deci has the option to use a one time per battle nuke.

            They’re basically the same but alternative.

          • Dhelmise won’t be RU for long, trust me on that
            Most people on smogon are saying it’s going to drop.
            It’s cause the thing is extremely easy to wall. Deci wallbreaks, that’s what it does. In terms of hazard removal, neither actually perform that well in comparison to like Gligar.
            Deci isn’t leagues better, but it is better
            Viability ranks places Deci higher in RU as well so

          • Smacking your opponent with an anchor to the face > missing the opponent and accidentally hitting their shadow and passing it off as a deliberate ninja technique :p

          • It’s the objective truth. Ash will ditch his Rowlet and pick up a Dhelmise to reflect this. He will love it so much that it exceeds Ash-Greninja and become Dhelmash, an actual fusion between trainer and ‘mon with its own exclusive Z-Move and signature move. This is my prophecy

          • The name that the world will remember

            Until he loses the Alola League to Silvadion’s Blast Burn and then everyone forgets about it and he releases Dhelmise because it fell in love with a Gyarados

          • Honestly since I heard that Type Null actually lost the first fight at a Ultra Beast(haven’t seen the later part of the anime yet) and the fact Rowlett apparently got fainted on most of the trials(sure I heard it helped good but getting fainted practically cancels those moments out for me)
            I got a feeling the writers might not do that and probably screw Silvally over
            I just feel iffy with the writers apparently
            Especially how Lunala basically got shafted/sidelined to me honestly

          • If only Spirit Shackle isn’t ignored by Emergency Exit
            I went “wut?” when Guzma’s Golisopod managed to use Emergency Exit despite it got hit with Spirit Shackle

          • I hated how despite their is like a graveyard/haunted area, there is only a few ghost types
            Like not enough in each area
            Like the wrecked marketplace in Gen VII (only freaking Mimikyu and Gengar line)
            Its just usually Gastly/Haunter and one other ghost and that’s it
            I am surprised there is no catacomb like place in XY, would have been perfect to find ghost types, like Honedge

          • I got a big thought sometime ago about a huge place(maybe a castle/mansion) that has all ghost types while having places that references legendaries/mythicals/Ultra Beasts that are Ghost types
            With graveyard, tower similar to Celestial Tower form Gen V, etc

      • It makes sense since there are more species living under water in real life than any other. And there are lots of yet to be discovered.

        I’m really surprised psychic is so high. I feel like it should be around dark but I guess lots of Pokemon has high thinking capabilities.

        As for rarest 4, they really make sense. Fairy and dragon are kind of legendary creatures along with ghosts. And icy environments are really hard to survive and also adapt. So it makes sense there appears so little number of Pokemon who managed to survive and gain Ice type. If only they make this type a little bit better so it worths this rareness.

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        • Water’s reasoning for me is exactly what you said.
          Psychic is so high because a lot of psychics tend to be three stage (metagross line, gardevoir line, abra, gothitelle, solosis) or two stage or legendaries. There’s soooo many psychic legendaries.

          I always say ice needs a buff. SO BAD. Give it some resistances. Give it one more type to be super effective against. I think fairy would fit that well. That gives ice a super effective chance against dragon and ghost which are very powerful while still being weak to common types like fighting, fire, etc.

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          • Yes, ice can be supereffective against fairies. You know fairies are kind of protectors of nature,so having them fragile to harsh environments kinda makes sense. Also ice can resist flying. Wind can do pretty much nothing to ice, all it can do is cooling ice more. It can also resist water and bug.

            I also feel like there should be some effectiveness connection between grass and fairy. They are already connected in conceptual sense and many pokemon with flowers are pure fairy type already. How about making grass resistent to fairy type. You can’t expect protector of nature to hurt it right. It makes sense in that way.

  74. Well darn, I was hopeing that the Sinnoh remake would be next. I hope that if the next game is another new gen that means they’re taking their time on the possible Sinnoh remake so it’ll be awesome.

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    • You’re the problem….(Im kidding obviously) but seriously why would you expect DP remakes next? Once we got confirmation that USUM was the last 3ds games, DP remakes should have flown far away from your thoughts. They’ll never start a new gen with a remake for multiple reasons, but one of the biggest is that remakes don’t make them as much money as brand new games

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      • Well if ORAS happened after XY which happened after BW2 then I can still have hope that Sinnoh will show up again after the next new gen. Also I didn’t expect it to be next I said I hoped it would have been.

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  75. What makes a Pokemon? I’m not an artist or much of anything. I don’t really think I’m the ideal person to say it but here I am. Every single generation, count it, every one, has its own unique style. In many cases,I can look at a pokemon and say “that looks like a gen __ mon!”
    Even fanmons have this to an extent. If I see a fanmon from a game like sage and one from a game like ethereal gates, I can pinpoint which game they belong to simply by how they look
    More than anything, I’m eager to see the identity next gens Pokemon bring to the table.

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  76. So since there’s so many newbies/returning peeps lurking, how about a dumb cheesy ice breaker thing?

    Favourite type?
    Favourite Pokémon?
    Favourite Pokémon game?

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  77. One thing that I’m annoyed has never been retconned

    Castform not having a Sandstorm form.

    Castform is also one Pokemon for whom I would welcome an evolution.

    Yes I know it’s a weather Gimick for Gen 3, but seriously not pushing that slightly further and having it evolve into four different forms depening on the overworld weather was such a shame…give them the corresponding weather setting and boosting abilities and you could have some solid Pokemon.

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  78. I know how a lot of you dislike Fakemon ideas, but anyone want to comment on so far the name for my Picture Pokémon? I’m thinking about calling it Canvurse, or to break down the name a mix of Canvas and curse

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    • Same though. Like, why wasn’t it a horse? That would’ve been PERFECT for Link..Also I wish Rhoam wasn’t in any cutscenes, he’s the worst voice actor I’ve ever heard. Also low key wish it actually focused on the champions like I thought it was supposed to. They each got a cutscene and that was it.. :/

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      • I still gotta do the dungeon but I’m really confused more than anything. I thought this was goona address the complaints people had about the story but not… really? I had some really fun moments doing this DLC pack just because it’s BOTW and it’s great but still.

        Master Trials is fantastic tho

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  79. The anime’s UB arc seems like it’s gonna be pretty baller. Even some surprise cameos by Marshadow which I wasn’t expecting given how it got a movie.

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    • Can you give a link? Also, not super surprised Marshy is showing up because its Z-Move wasn’t shown off but I wasn’t really expecting it to reappear so soon :0

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        • WHAT THE HELL WHY ARE THERE SO MANY COOL RIDE POKEMON IN THE ANIME? GARCHOMP, FLYGON, METAGROSS AND WE ARE STUCK WITH BUMS LIKE STOUTLAND AM OUTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

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          • Metang ***

            Also there was Dragonair ;-;

            That’s another issue I have with USUM. Almost all the changes GF made were cosmetic yet they couldn’t give us some new “skins” for pokerides? More options?

          • They really replaced the Dowsing machine (which was a key item) with Stoutland search lmaoo. Could have easily used that slot for Rhyperior climb (to climb rocks/mountains) or bring back Soar to traverse the skies of Alola and battle flying types idk man

          • > Implying that any of those were actually scrapped for Stoutland Search when in reality they could co-exist
            > Wanting to see a Rhyperior at all

            Disgusting.

          • Didn’t know that but pretty miffed that’s not in USUM
            Honestly seeing all those pokemon with those ridiculous harnesses and such and none of them not minding it at all kind of bugs me
            Would be cool in seeing a Ride Pokémon show it doesn’t like the harness stuff that it has to wear and throws it off
            Could show the Ride Pokémon could they got their own ways of thinking than just “be someguy’s tool/vehicle, blahblah”

        • Well my dong is expanded
          I WANNA FLY ON MY GARCHOMP
          And what was up with that Toxapex the coloration was all wrong
          AND FUKING BUZZWOLE FIGHTING BEWEAR are they TRYING to make the planet explode

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          • It’s a deliberate design choice to make it look more like James

            You see a Mareanie with the exact same colouring in the preview

      • Honestly Ho-Oh’s role in the movie is pretty disappointing
        All it did was fly, leave a feather and had some short fight with an unknown result
        Pretty disappointing since for so long Ho-Oh didn’t had a movie for it nor even a movie appearance
        And I didn’t like how Marshadow brainwashed all those pokemon, it just bugs me for some reason..

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      • James and Jessie really owning two of the best competitive mons out there while Ash is stuck with a stupid fire kitten and a lazy owl. Cruel world man

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        • Honestly said owl can be a badass ghost archer while said cat can become a feline heel wreslter
          If the writers ever even allow at least Rowlett evolve
          I swear if we don’t get Decidueye then I know the writers are purposely going opposite with whats popular

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          • Nintendo probably just made a sh*t ton of Incineroar merchandise before SM came out thinking it would be the most popular only to realize that it was Decidueye by a mile so now they’re trying their hardest to make Incineroar a thing

          • So poor ghost birb is going to get upstage despite being more popular?
            Oh crud..
            Speaking of ghosts, I wonder if Lunala is more popular than Solgaleo or is it a wavering balance scale on that?

    • Ian “Earthen” Andres
      Gender: Male
      Age: 24
      Height: 6.0
      Weight: Phat
      Home Region; Unova, Nacrene City
      Current Party: Rhyperior, Emboar, Heracross, Pangoro, Golisopod, Aerodactyl
      Likes: Winning, Not Losing, Physical Strength, Tough Pokemon, Ground Pokemon, Fighting Pokemon, Burgers, Geology
      Dislikes: Losing, Not Winning, Wimps, Fairy Pokemon, Psychic Pokemon, Burns (Status Condition), Burns (Taunt)
      Trainer Title: “The Down to Earth Trainer”
      Bio: a rough and bullheaded trainer hailing from the hustle and bustle Unova Region, fond of earthen Pokemon and showing prowess in battling, when he fights he unleashes the dormant warrior within himself rivaling the legendary Berserkers
      Quotes: “God Damn it!” “Piss off!” “Feh/Bah” “

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    • This goes along with the anime I’ve been sort of writing, btw
      Alex (Last Name Undecided)
      Male
      Age:13(Pre Timeskip)-16 (Post Timeskip)
      Height:5’9 (13)/6’2(16)
      Home “Region”:New York
      Party (Potentially Unfinished):Lucario, Incineroar
      Bio(I’ll probably unintentionally include unnecessary stuff, so forgive me if I do):An average kid who lived a pretty normal life at first, Alex’s life took a turn for the less normal when he and his friend (Sam) were transported to the world of Pokemon Mystery Dungeon to fight off a great evil (name undecided). After that, he gained the ability to travel between his world and the Pokemon world through a special Poke Ball looking device. Through that, he met 3 people who would eventually become his friends and formed a group with them and Sam. Later on, after defeating another great evil (name also undecided), they decided to part ways to adjust back into their normal lives. After the 3 years had passed, Alex eventually gained the power to harness aura outside of his Lucario form (A bit late to bring that up, I know), and gained tremendous power through it. His main form of attacking is through punches and shooting blasts of aura through his index fingers.
      That’s all I can think of. Might add more later

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      • Here are some quotes I guess:
        “What the hell?”
        “That’s not good.”
        “It’s like I’m living out an anime.”
        And here’s a semi-long one:
        “I don’t care how many bones you break… I don’t care how many organs you damage… I don’t care how many times you knock me down! You may call this a lot of things: “Foolishness, naivete, stubbornness. But I call it persistence. The persistence to kill you. The only one… the only one who’s gonna die here… IS YOU!!”
        That probably needs some tweaking

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        • Oh yeah, Trainer Title:
          The Apathetic Aura Meister (It’s a nod to the P4A/P4AU titles given to the characters, how they’re sort of jabs at the characters)

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    • Name: Alex “Kurusu” Caldaett
      Gender: Male
      Age: 16
      Height: 5’7″
      Weight: Lightweight
      Born and raised in: Sinnoh, Celestic Town
      Current Team: Samurott, Weavile, Midnight Lycanroc, Glalie, Goodra, Steelix
      Likes: Water types, his friends and team, a good battle, French Fries, Ice types, lots of other stuff
      Dislikes: Evil organizations, People who use the word jaun as if it means anything, people who abuse Pokémon.
      Trainer Title: The Tide breaking Mediator
      Bio: Coming from the peaceful Celestic town he travels the world in search of making new friends and exploring with his team mates. His true fighting spirit lies within his kind exterior and rarely shows it unless really fired up.
      Key tem: A special necklace in the shape of a Steelix head given to by his grandmother so he may Mega evolve his Steelix

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    • Name: Connor Hemlock
      Gender: Male
      Age: 17
      Height: 5’9″
      Weight: Twink-sized
      Hometown: Virbank City
      Likes: The menseses, Poison-types
      Dislikes: Furries
      Party: Salazzle, Tentacruel, Roserade, Noivern, Mienshao, (M)Glalie
      Trainer title: a trainer

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    • Fuuck itt

      Name: Taylor “Star” Last Name
      Gender: Female
      Height: too fuckin tall
      Weight: too fuckin small
      Home Town: Newbark Town but I’m a god damn city girl living in Castelia biiiiiiiiiiiitch
      Likes: Cute girls, cute dogs, that gay shiit, Griffin McElroy
      Dislikes: Straight White Cis Men
      Pokémon:

      Feraligatr
      Lopunny
      Whimmsicott
      Ampharos
      Furret
      Primarina

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    • Lemme drop a meme
      Name: Hotiron the Trainerr
      Gender: Penis
      Height: Ninne inch nailz
      Weight: Your mom
      Hometown: Resolution Cave
      Likes: Darkness, Honedges, Aegislash, Doublades, Bisharps, Pawniards, Mewtwo, Shadow Mewtwo, Darkrai
      Dislikes: People, social media, pop culture, my mom
      Pokemon:
      Shiny Aegislash
      Bisharp
      Shadow Mewtwo
      Mewtwo
      Darkrai
      Arceus-Dark
      Catchphrase: Nothinn personnel cchild

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    • Is it bad that I have a lot? I get bored…
      Here’s one:
      A dragon type Pokemon Coordinator to show off dragon types performances rather than their battling skills. Specifically showing off a dragon type for each contest criteria
      Gender: Male
      Weight: Uh Medium I guess
      Height: Tall
      Hometown: Oppelucid City (future)
      Current Place: (Started Journey) Hoenn
      Likes: Dragons, Contests
      Dislikes: Steel types
      Party: [Mega] Sceptile (Cool), Dragonair (Beauty), Shelgon (Cute), Druddigon (Tough), Latias (Smart), Shiny Noivern (All)

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    • Name: Seraph (Ryan)
      Gender: Male
      Age: 17
      Height: 5’2 (I imagine I’d be shorter for smolness purposes)
      Weight: Light (This is a fantasy trainersona, lets fix that up)
      Home: Unspecified, probably Alola, akala somewhere
      Likes: Bug and ghost types, anything that entertains him for more than two seconds, battles, etc
      Dislikes: Fire in general, tight spaces
      Pokemon:
      Decidueye (My original partner Pokemon)
      Araquanid (A pokemon I knew since I was a babi)
      Masquerain (interestingly enough seems to fill the role of a shoulder Pokemon. Its implied that this is my strongest normal member strangely enough)
      Dusknoir (That ever so common super powerful boi I can’t properly control yet)
      Flygon (A powerhouse and a transport)
      Reuniclus/Ampharos/Relicanth (The last member tends to switch on a frequent basis)
      (Can call upon a marshadow in desperate times but in most cases prefers to never use it in battle)
      Bio: A strange boi with an intense bond with his Pokemon. He doesn’t like to talk about his past much and has a “keep moving forward” optimistic attitude. Will frequently make up long and strong-sounding backstories to psych out his opponent and get into their head. This has an approximate success rate of 3/100 trainers. Ironically enough he’s decent in battle and specializes in tripping up his opponents and playing mindgames. Wears a reapers cloth as a scarf to look “cool” as he puts it. The real reason is simply because its comfy

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  80. So as a follow up about that Tieba rumor of a new Kanto game the person on Bulbagarden that was a known leaker said that they’re acquainted with an admin on there. So they can confirm that the person who deleted the thread wasn’t the original poster, but was in fact another admin. Said admin who deleted the trhead also apparently has ties with an inner circle of leakers. I guess the “famous Chinese leaks” from SM were actually deleted by that admin even. So it’s highly suspicious they’d delete the Kanto thread. I have a few thoughts on all this

    So what if most if not all the rumors are in fact real? What if we do return to Kanto, but it’s not the Kanto we know from past games? I was thinking that maybe we’re really about to witness a sort of reboot. What if we do return to Kanto, but this time the dex has been expanded with brand new Pokemon and features a brand new story to fit with the new graphics and modern times. That would technically make it a brand new gen and a return to Kanto all in one game. It would certainly explain why some rumors say it’s a new gen while others say a Kanto remake of some kind. It would also explain why GF seems to be making USUM out as an end of an era game rather than just the end of the 3ds games like BW2 was. Otherwise why would they say it was the culmination of the last 20 years? Those words seem suspicious if the next game is just business as usual. In any event whatever we get next will be interesting and certainly not what anyone expects. Exciting times are ahead.

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    • Not sure how I would feel about returning to kanto again. But if it’s completely different with plenty of new Pokémon I guess I could handle it

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      • I feel like the major problem people have with Kanto now a days is not that Kanto itself has been everywhere, but that the general 1st gen has encroached on many other gens. If they had only stuck to minor hints and nods then it would have been fine, but doing stuff like giving out the Kanto starters in XY was a bit much. Other than than Kanto itself hasn’t been in much spotlight recently. With he exception of the VC releases we haven’t gone to a newly revamped Kanto with it’s own story in a VERY long time. Could be interesting to see it in full 3d and a new story.

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        • That is pretty much my main issue with kanto. It has gotten way too much attention the past few gens. Getting kanto starters in x and y as you said. Then the whole alolan forms only being for gen one Pokémon :/ overall a return to the region itself wouldn’t bother me too much. Just give me plenty of new Pokémon is all I ask for.

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  81. I am so curious what they will do for the starters in gen 8. Can definitely say I never expected to actually get a grass owl like rowlet lol personally I am hoping that we get a water platypus or elephant! Fire if they continue loosely following the Chinese zodiac rabbit or snake. Grass I am not sure ? deer maybe? Lemur?

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    • Well if the hints are there and just maybe they are there (and assuming my theory isn’t totally correct) the starters may end up being a Tanuki, Ram/goat, and a wolf.

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        • While he hasn’t outright stated it as being a part of the info he has on gen 8, a while ago a guy named GekkougaLarry on Twitter posted 3 pictures of those animals and said that he liked them. He definitely seems to have sources, but that one particular post may or may have anything to do with the gen 8 info he has. so take that with a grain of salt.

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      • water wolf that becomes part ice

        tanuki grass, im questioning if they’d actually give it’s final evo giant balls .___.”

        ram/goat fire that becomes part fairy

        those are my wants from that info you gave

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  82. So here’s a thought. Say we do go back to Kanto in the form of a reboot. Would be pretty interesting if the starters were different. Gen 8 will definitely have all new Pokemon regardless of where it’s set. If we go back to Kanto and it has new Pokemon I could totally see us getting a new set of starters in a reboot. Would make them giving us the “original” three starters in XY and then in the VC releases be more sensible. Otherwise why would they have even bothered if we were gonna get them again later on?

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      • True, but they don’t have control over that. It’s still them making the 3 starters available in a more modern set of games. All they can do is make them available. If some people don’t play them then that’s their loss.

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          • That’s also a fair point. Either way they seem to be flooding us with opportunities to get the original starters and for no real reason either. at this point most if not everyone has access to them in some form or another. Doesn’t make much sense to keep doing special things for them unless the next games won’t feature them at all or very little.

          • Gen 1 nostalgia though. They are also very recognisable for the brand, not on Pikachus’ level but alot of people will know what they are even if they don’t know the names.

          • This could work^ maybe it’s set in an alternate kanto with different starters. Maybe the professor oak we know falls into this kanto from a wormhole or something post game gives us a kanto starter for helping him get back?

          • Maybe it’s in the future a bit and Blue is now the Professor, Prof.Oak is chilling with Samson Oak on a beach and just throws the starters at you when you approach him. Or they could link with wormholes, if they are even continuing that part of the lore.

          • That could work too. An adult blue as the professor. Doesn’t mention professor oak all game making everyone think he’s dead. Then you find him chilling on a beach lol

      • We shall see. My theory may be way out there, but I’ve been speculating a return to Kanto for some time now and the stars definitely seem to be aligning recently.

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      • This wouldn’t be a call back tho. It’d be essentially a reboot. We haven’t actually visited Kanto in almost a decade and Kanto has never gotten any expansions or additional areas. (Sevi Islands don’t count as they’re not directly attached to Kanto) Also there have been call backs to Kanto in almost every game so your point isn’t really saying much.

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  83. Schedule for Games Done Quick 2018

    https://gamesdonequick.com/schedule

    Games y’all might be intrested in:

    (Game), (Date), (Run Time) (Category)Check the schedule for the start time for your time zone

    Splatoon 2 Sunday, January 7th (1:40:00) any%

    The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Sunday, January 7th (0:50:00) Main Quest

    Sonic Mania Monday, January 8th (1:00:00) Sonic and Tails any%

    Super Mario 3D World, Tuesday, January 9th (2:05:00) any%

    Metroid (NES), Wednesday, January 10th (0:30:00) all bosses warpless

    Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga, Wednesday, January 10th (1:35:00) any%

    Yoshi’s Island, Wednesday, January 10th (2:00:00) any% warpless race

    Super Mario Sunshine, Wednesday, January 10th (3:15:00) 120 shines

    Starfox 2, Thursday, January 11th (0:45:00) New Game+ Expert

    Super Mario Galaxy, Friday, January 12th (2:45:00) any%

    Pokemon Black 2/White 2, Friday, January 12th (3:30:00) any%

    Zelda: Ocarina of Time, Friday, January 12th (4:40:00) 100%

    Zelda: A Link to the Past, Saturday, January 13th (2:00:00) Randomizer, No Glitches, Open Mode Race

    Zelda: Breath of the Wild, Saturday, January 13th (3:57:00) All Main Quests (no amiibo)

    I really recommend you watch some if you can! It’s always great to watch speedrunners show their skills. I didn’t mention it but watch the Hollowknight stream. That game is great. Sorta surprised that there isn’t any Odyssey but I guess the game is so new that they will probably blow is all away with it during the Summer Event

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    • I’ll definitely catch Wednesday and Friday at least, all of the runs on those days are interesting to me. I want to see how people can beat Superstar Saga so fast especially, because I feel like I know that game like the back of my hand.

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      • Pokemon’s battle system is perfect, so shoot yourself or go play boring Pokkén, don’t really care, don’t really think it’s right to tell people to shoot themselves, either, but hey, fair’s fair.

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        • “Shoot yourself, don’t really care, don’t
          really think it’s right to tell people to shoot themselves, either, but
          hey, fair’s fair.”

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          • This can be one of my favorite games on this site. However I seemed to have a glitch after about 20 hrs of game playing. I couldn’t figure it out, subsequently I ended up having to build one more game. I came across one that functioned at https://www.amusementarcade.org/pearl/ and I’m almost strong enough to beat Gardenia at Eterna Gym for my Forest Badge! It’s not long until The First of the Sinnoh Four, Aaron is at my feet, begging for mercy! Who needs a Pikachu, when I have a freaking awesome Sneasel whipping so much butt! Man I really like this game performance. Best of luck to you and so go and catch ’em all!
            Ash Ketchum, off!

  84. ***Random fact***

    Pokemon type combos that have never been used before:

    Normal/Poison
    Normal/Ice
    Normal/Bug
    Normal/Rock
    Normal/Steel
    Normal/Ghost
    Fire/Grass
    Fire/Ice
    Fire/Fairy
    Electric/Fighting
    Electric/Poison
    Electric/Dark
    Ice/Poison
    Ice/Bug
    Fighting/Ground
    Fighting/Fairy
    Poison/Psychic
    Poison/Steel
    Poison/Fairy
    Ground/Fairy
    Bug/Psychic
    Bug/Dragon
    Bug/Dark
    Rock/Ghost
    Dark/Fairy

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    • Just give us that “life of star” Electric/Dark Pokemon already. Starting with protostar,building up for supernova and ending with black hole.

      And please counterpart for Volcarona, Bug/Ice moth. Same overall stats, 1 staged evolution(absense of cacoon stage) and based on Lunar Moth. Sun-Moon, Fire-Ice counterparts.

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    • Redefine the battle system maybe it just means redefine the GUI as we won’t have 2 screens anymore… so I expect something more in than direction than big game mechanic changes.
      I think their effort will be focused more in creating an adventure close to the Zelda Breath of The Wild rather than changing the whole battling system. I expect of course changes in there but not big ones.

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    • I guess a refined battle system could be as there aren’t dual screens, if you want to make a move in a battle, you hold down a button then using a direction for the four moves?
      I think it will still be turned based as all of the side games are ones for changing up the battle system – conquest, ranger, dungeon, Pokken

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    • They should release a lighter and more compact version of Switch for the children… it is heavy even for my hands… otherwise forget about children playing it in the outside.
      I calculate that will happen in 2019.

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      • Im pretty sure they made it as compact/light as possible for the hardware it contains. Making a new compact/light version would simply hinder development of games on a console that is already underpowered in terms of hardware. Also, its like slightly heavier than a 3ds to the point where you barely notice the difference.

        To add on, if you take off the joycons, itss the exact same size as a 3ds.

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        • But that’s the thing, you can make it lighter by removing some of it.

          For example, if it’s handheld only you don’t need the Bluetooth/the Joycon rails and all that that entails. You also don’t need anything that makes it upclock, since it’ll be primarily used for handheld (though since it uses USB-C it’ll still be able to do video out with an extension from the dock, this variant would obviously be told to ignore trying to upclock).

          Of course being smaller in general would also remove some of the weight of the system in the materials used to make it up (especially the metal on the rails).

          A smaller, dockless, handheld only version (for at LEAST the price of the New 3DS XL to assuage the poorer and cheaper people) is almost certainly doable without affecting performance.

          And all this would do is hinder devs who are already screwing up by not taking the handheld format into account and porting appropriately, and those people should be hindered from putting a game on a platform that’s really a handheld with video out and upclocking so that’s okay.

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      • Probably, eventually.

        Switch really should do 3 things before worrying about improving the base hardware:

        > dual screen version
        > cheap version
        > booster adaptor

        I’d even add a 4G version. I think it is still dumb to do it the way Vita did it, but more than ever, needing a constant connection will be important, and what GPS could bring to (console) gaming is a lot. However, that type of support should be a slotted attachment that relies on a pay as you go format for primary marketing, attaching it to an account on the secondary. This way kids and teens could easily take advantage as they buy or have things like Data cards purchased for them. But I think that only works going forwards in new hardware, or they’d have to release a broadcasting device accessory as an adaptor (which also can work but makes things less portable).


        That said, Dual Screen version, proportionally the size of the regular 3DS, but have sliding slots for taking the standard joypad controllers. Both screens as touch screens, and the ability to slide the top screen down (in addition to clam-shell closed) to be a one-screened micro handheld. Then give it an improved camera (I say just a nice old cell phone camera could be nice, one with flash, some auto-focus, maybe 8MP and maybe some 2-5x zoom… just depending on price) and a stylus that works with the new kind of screen. Start the price around $250 – 199, and release possibly over the summer or early fall in time for games like Animal Crossing, Mario Maker 2, and Pokemon.

        Why Dual Screens? It’s better for some games. We don’t have to worry about interface downgrades for the titles I spoke of, and future games like Xenoblade 2 won’t get criticized for a crowded interface. This could be a portable-only model, maybe come with a small extra bit of ram for more OS stuff for more portable comforts, possibly the same or less system storage, and upgrade all switch hardware to get new more portable specific software and apps like Streetpass 2.0. Also set the system up to be able to easier take mobile android based games, and rebrand them as “pocket” sized games, along with things like VC games of portable system games (or possible 3DS eShop titles).

        For a Cheaper version, I think redesign the WiiU gamepad in the style of the Switch. Have it as a device that can stream content from a switch, target the price from $100-150, update switch consoles such that some small games can be played at the same time (such as these “pocket” titles that are limited to how much hardware they can use) and also let it function as a screened pro-controller (possibly being able to connect two of these devices to one switch). Now you have a superior WiiU product that not only can function similar to the WiiU (making ports of games like Xenoblade easier as well as bring dual screened gaming to older Switches in console mode), but can do such on the go in portable mode, but also function as a second controller with a private screen, as well as a console that is more disposable than the base switch.

        Why this way for a cheaper system? The processing units and internal components of the Switch aren’t going to get cheap fast enough, and eventually Switch will loose pace as family won’t be able to afford each child a system (It will start to sell as a shared product like a home console). Possibly it could also save money in production by also including the dual screened model’s smaller single screen and possibly camera (for any feature parody).This can be that solution, with more included hardware components than the base gamepad, but made slimer and cheaper. However, it also would have a bonus of selling to every switch customer, unlike the 2DS as a budget solution as it extends multiplayer (so you no longer need to play side by side) and brings options of dual screened gaming.

        Finally, a booster adaptor, because the thing about the idea of improving the base model of the Switch in 2019, 2020, is that you aren’t going to see that big a jump to get that same form factor and size of the switch, but the price will greatly increase. I don’t know people will be willing to spend $400-500 just to play PS4 games in 1080p in console mode at 30FPS or even 60FPS. You are better off selling the concept in piecemeal, you might be able to get even more out of it.

        What they should instead do is redesign the Dock. Many people won’t throw away their old docks, they can still be set to other TVs and such, but they can make a new Dock, have it be a bit bigger, and add additional components of a secondary more powerful GPU with a custom CPU that can run in tangent with the base Switch model’s and give it additional ram to at least double the total, if not a bit more than even that (to allow for extra OS features). The dock could also include some space for a portable HDD (or two) to be slotted internally like a N64 cartridge, and have some advanced wireless features that allow it to do processing for switches connected wirelessly (also letting you use the base switch model as a second screen controller for those such games). You could also decide if you want to include a game card slot and joypad set to allow it to be used as a pure home console.

        This would not include the extra basic dock or a screen or internal battery which would save production cost and should allow it to be price ranged for $200-250. Now, if Nintendo choose to, they could release this in 2019, timed for the fall after the dual screened version and the budget second screened controller release, and sell it as a stand alone (for the aforementioned price) or as a dual-pack with the standard Switch for around $450-500. A hardware objective to sell the dual pack could be that when the switch is docked, it could run games at 1080p (or 1440p) 60FPS, as well as offer multiplayer experiences for a VR visor attachment (With that, you can plug in the console for power and processing, but it uses its own microscreens for display, gyroscope, accelerometer, and has a 3D 8MP camera with a secondary 3D IR or dot array camera for augmented game designs. That in of itself can aim for a $80 price point or $150 if it includes a game (something like Star Fox VR or something)).

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  85. Today’s Komala episode was extremely fillery but we learn that if you face off against Komala it will always have +5 Plot Armor and never lose

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      • Its not that fillery but its a slice of life anime, so it will never be as action packed as regular shounen (like the previous seasons)

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        • Ah. That sucks as I really liked their non-filler episodes and really I dislike that entire concept of school. Hopefully there won’t be any excuse in Gen 8 to be completely filler.

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  86. Much as I’m a fan of an Italy region, a mainline game is not changing up the battle system as described here. Doing anything like that does nothing but ensure that the real competitive Pokémon scene sticks with the older games, and suddenly Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon are the Smash Melee of Pokémon. TPCi has put so much effort into the VGC competition and format, even if I’m not a fan of how the main format is doubles, and it would be a stupid and rude move to just take it out back and shoot it like that. Also, contrast between tradition and innovation was already a subtheme of B/W(2), what with Opelucid, Black City/White Forest, and even Route 4 in the sequels, so I just doubt that they’re going that route again.

    In short, I’d be willing to vouch for an Italy region as nice but the rest of this I just can’t get behind.

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  87. They’d actually be doing me a favor if they simplified combat like that, cause then I would save money by not buying a Nintendo Switch since I wouldn’t be interested in playing the gen 8 Pokemon games anymore.

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  88. No new Megas? So that’s it then, huh? Megas were just a one generation thing? We’ll never see an awesome Mega flying/fire Rapidash with wings? Welp, I’m out for good then. I couldn’t finish Pokemon Moon and I doubt I’ll play any of the new games. Unless they remake Diamond/Pearl. The only thing that could change my mind is if Gamefreak gives Dunsparce the awesome evolution(s) it deserves.

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    • I hope the no new megas part isn’t true
      Its pretty awkward how not all of the Starters(not even Kalos ones ironically) got megas

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  89. Here’s what I want for Gen 8:
    – Grass-Type Kangaroo Starter (Grass/Fighting), Fire-Type Centaur Starter (Fire/Electric) and Water-Type Marine Iguana Starter (Water/Dragon)
    – 120 new Pokemon, including 2-Stage Dolphin (Water/Psychic), Evolved form of Komala (Normal/Fighting) and Flying- and Rock-Type Eeveelutions
    – Version-exclusive regions
    – Magikarpium Z

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    • What I wish for is both new megas and Z-moves(both for pokemon that deserved them)
      If Gen 4 remakes happen then I wished Silvally could get some more focus, that thing didn’t get enough attention in SM and I don’t think USUM didn’t fixed that
      Maybe new forms for it based off of each Ultra Beast and maybe the Creation Trio
      It felt like something is missing for it

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    • Magikarpium Z: Splash now becomes Super Spalsh, a move that allows Magikarp to jump even higher, and takes a second turn to come back down, but does absolutely no damage.

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  90. Don’t get your hopes up for the Nintendo Direct next week, get excited for the Pokémon Direct in February.

    Pokémon as you know it, has evolved!

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  91. Hope the gyms return if the region is in spain or italy and put the rumour fire type in where madrid because its the hottest part or the canarie islands with the gym as a volcano in tenarife i miss the gyms trials were good but they were too easy and it was more of a mini game that your forced to play

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      • A mate from valencia told me it was but i go by what he said but at least i know is not the hottest thanks mate they should use the canarie islands and the islands where mallorca, ibiza and menorca for to catch legendaries 🙂

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        • haha don’t worry man, Spain has in fact very interesting places and landscapes to get inspiration to. If you don’t mind I’m gonna give my personal opinion to the Spain-Italy region possibilities. As a Spanish myself and in love with the incredibly beautiful country of Italy, the idea of a mediterranean-like pokemon region is exciting. Pokemon games always gives special attention to plasm the lifestyle of the people the region is based of and Spain has one of the most occidental-although-really-exotic cultures and honestly I think we’ve failed to explain it to the rest of the world with the succes our italians friends did with theirs (pizza is patrimony of the humanity thank u panini neighbours). Japan and Spain relationship is also something is not commonly known, it dates back to the 1600’s and it’s still pretty good nowadays, there’s a lot and I mean a lot of tablaos flamencos in Japan and i’ts also a very common thing for flamenco artists to spend some years or even their whole carrier there. If you ask me, I think they like us because they identify themshelves with a non-anglo and very sentimental focused culture, but hey that’s just me pretending to be a sociologist.

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          • I say the relationship between spain and japan doesnt matter because pokemon generation 6 was based in france i think every 2 pokemon generation regions are going to be based in europ and usa because unova region is based in manhattan new york in usa kalos is based france in europ and alola is based in hawaii in usa again so i say generation 8 is definatly going to be based europ again and generation 9 will be in another american state 🙂

          • yep well, I guess that at the end of the day we’re just speculating and Game Freak will just do whatever they think is the best for the franchise

  92. Actually i understand and agree the idea for ZM to do the mimic instead of press the comand, think about it if you have a VR pokemon game you wouldnt be pressing buttoms you’ll be moving and doing the poses so if you want to get the full use of switch system you’ll have to get an use for the joy-con as well (sure it’ll be embarassing, but its like playing wii), also i think imo that megas could be diferent, i vote to be permanent if you want to and then switch off anytime you want but that will be impossible so other way to do it is like in naruto ninja storm 4 when you are fighting they add you and extra bar to be charge and then you may transform for a brief period but this only works in a wide scenerio like “breath of the wilde” and a battle system making “one at the time” moves (you have a single move display and with a button you may switch to another move), but that changes all the actual battle system because you’ll have to defend and dodge and i think i’ll like to see a pok version like this but thats my opinon also megas are not dead i think its just to much work to design mega for like 800 pok when players only use a 100 of then it will be a waste of time, effort and money to do it………

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