Greetings Junglers, Evan here with the winner of Kalos’ Showdown. The winner is Malva! She won with 32%. She’s followed by Siebold (30%), Drasna (28%) and Wikstrom (10%).

Now the winners will compete against each other. Vote and let us know who you picked in the comments down below!

Lanceheartgold_soulsilver_lance

  • Encounter 4
  • Dragon
  • Gyarados, Dragonair, Dragonair, Aerodactyl and Dragonite
  • Name: A lance used by knights
  • Trivia: Lance’s grandfather is the elder of a famous clan of Dragon Masters.

Karen462px-HeartGold_SoulSilver_Karen

  • Encounter 4
  • Dark
  • Umbreon, Vileplume, Murkrow, Gengar and Houndoom
  • Name: Darken
  • Trivia: Karen is the only Elite Four member in HGSS that changes her final Pokémon, namely into Umbreon.

Phoebe718px-Omega_Ruby_Alpha_Sapphire_Phoebe

  • Encounter 2
  • Ghost
  • Dusclops, Banette, Banette, Sableye and Dusclops
  • Name: Phobia or phantom
  • Trivia: She is the only Ghost-type specialist who does not use a Gengar at some point.

FlintDiamond_Pearl_Flint

  • Encounter 3
  • Fire
  • Rapidash, Steelix, Drifblim, Lopunny and Infernape
  • Name: A kind of stone used to set fires
  • Trivia: Flint is the only Elite Four member who uses a starter.

CaitlinBlack_White_Caitlin

  • Mid-right encounter
  • Psychic
  • Reuniclus, Musharna, Sigilyph and Gothitelle
  • Name: Cattleya, a flower
  • Trivia: Caitlin is one of the few characters to have physically aged.

MalvaXY_Malva

  • Top right encounter
  • Fire
  • Pyroar, Torkoal, Chandelure and Talonflame
  • Name: Malva (a flower genus) or lava
  • Trivia: She is the only Elite Four member who is part of a villainous team.

Who is your favorite Elite Four Member?

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  • Jackattack72

    I love these!! Flint all they way! Gen 4 was my favorite Gen!

  • SomeGuy

    I try to avoid Gen 1 preference… but dammit I had to go with Lance man. He’s so awesome.

  • zess

    Going with Karen!

  • EarthenWarrior

    ughhhhh finally this who you want to bang contest is finally coming to an end

    • Haxford

      I’m glad you found something to complain about again.

      • EarthenWarrior

        i never have to look far

    • You’re just upset you can’t vote for whatever her name is from Aether.

      • EarthenWarrior

        Wicke? i’m not that into her

        • Exeledus

          I AM!

        • that

          • EarthenWarrior

            what she’s not that thick

          • Exeledus

            so what if he’s got good tastes moving lol

    • TheReece25

      Lol.. me too.. kinda

    • SomeGuy

      I don’t want to bang Lance tho.

      I’ll admit I almost voted Malva.

  • Colin Smith

    I hope we get more of Malva’s backstory in SM

  • TheSunnyMonster6893

    Really…….Lance is already winning……and by a large margin……..really………?

    • Exeledus

      to be fair I don’t really like any of these. all the boring ones won. though caitlins the worst, I bet darach is out of work and homeless because of her. poor guy.

      • Haxford

        I feel the same way: the cool ones got the short end and the bland ones won. I wish Grimsley and Drasna were up there.

        • Exeledus

          I wish glacia and bertha where there.

          • Haxford

            Glacia is much better than Phoebe, especially her new design!

          • Prince Fae

            Yes finally someone who sees it like me

    • Ayye

      Honestly. Could people be less original. I chose flint because he is an interesting character and it’s funny how he uses only 2 fire types, one a starter.

  • Leo

    At uni talking to a cute guy from Guadeloupe. Getting dem Alolan vibes

    • TheReece25

      Take pics. .. Of Him 0_0

      • Leo

        I already have him on fb 😉

        • TheReece25

          I mean for me. 0_0

          • Leo

            Not sharing

  • EarthenWarrior

    • Exeledus

      not liking that last answer. I feel they made hau choose the weaker starter to make it easier.

    • MelloMori

      So megastar are confired post game. Still that doesn’t satisfy my curiousity if they’ll sneak in a couple in post game, but who knows at this point. We’ve got a month to go before the game comes out and sinnoh remakes on the horizon. We’ll get plenty of megas then

      • TheReece25

        Megastar?

        • MelloMori

          Dang auto correct. Megas are*

    • Ultron

      #FuckAlolanForms

      • Ultron

        Also, Z moves seem to be a lazy excuse to not make cross gen evos.

        • Exeledus

          they said that people didn’t like the cross gen evos, which is bullshit, what people didn’t like was cross gen pre-evos (babies)

    • Armaggedon16

      They mentioned how they had so many new ideas for new pokemon, but we only got like 70.
      Bullshit

      • Ultron

        Kalos + Alola is still less than Unova. Let that sink in…

        • AlolanSandschrew

          Like Pokemon wise? Yes i agree, region wise? Idk yet

          • Ultron

            Well, yes pokemon wise, but I’m talking about in terms of the amount. I love the Unova region though but Alola is already better than Kalos

        • Pokemania88

          I don’t buy the whole “what we have is what will be” statement. If they’re so sure that the whole alola Rex is there, how could they know that?
          What if game freak intentionally left some stuff out?

      • Ithsme

        We still have more coming. 😛

      • Ithsme

        So many great ideas!

        *designs an anchor pokemon*

  • Ultron

    Karen, dark types represent! Of course Lance is winning…too bad Cynthia will smoke him on the Champion poll 😉

    • Prince Fae

      Which one is Cynthia again? I’m drawing a blank

      • Ultron

        Sinnoh Champ?

        • Prince Fae

          oh right, the blonde chick, I forgot about her, I had to google what she looked like

          • Ultron

            It’s pretty hard to forget her Garchomp.

          • Prince Fae

            I forgot she had one too, you’re refreshing my memory on her a lot though, I should have at the very least remembered battling her in BW but I didn’t

  • CoolGlaceon

    So Mr. Masuda was asked about his favourite Pokemon from each gen.. and he totally skipped Gen 4
    WHY IS THIS SO FUNNY. EVEN THE CREATOR HIMSELF FORGOT ABOUT GEN 4.

    • The Queen of Peace

      By far the best generation

      • MelloMori

        Maybe he’s just being koi because he knows the gen 4 remakes are in the works and he doesn’t want people thinking too much about them?

        • Ultron

          But now by skipping it we are thinking about it lol

      • CoolGlaceon

        Definitely in my top two

    • belmad

      What are the answers?

  • SexyScizor89

    I’m voting for lance mostly because I really don’t like any of the other ones

  • TheReece25

    The last Pokemon video with Lance Really made this an easy choice. He and his Dragonite were Awesome!

  • TheReece25

    So no new Pokemon were discovered right? There were no fossil Pokemom like I thought and the dex is completed.. Right?

    • TheSunnyMonster6893

      Oooooooo!!!! Completed sex eh? lol

      • TheReece25

        Ugh… My phone has Such the dirty mind 😉

        • TheSunnyMonster6893

          The dirtier the better I always say lol

    • Ithsme

      It’s not finished at all IMO. I’m 100% confident we’ll get more.

  • The Queen of Peace

    What’s with the lance obsession?

    • TheReece25

      He can’t help he’s such a cool guy :/

      • The Queen of Peace

        Three of his dragon types are from the same line. He’s also generic as hell. Caitlin wins for me!

  • Prince Fae

    Karen is hands down my fave!

  • TigerMasku

    Lance doing his usual Sweep

  • DragonMaster

    Lance FTW! (Not that I’m biased or anything)

  • Armaggedon16

    I like Malva and Lance.
    The others have 0 personality :/

  • Cosimo

    #TeamKaren

  • joker901

    ” It’s really because we have so many people coming up with requests and ideas that we have such a wide variety of Pokemon in the games.”
    I hate you, Ohmori.

  • TCRowlet

    Just something I wanted to say about the leaked dex, so I’ll put a spoiler bar:

    It’s just interesting about Marshadow. There’s 2 possibilities at the moment that I see.
    1) Marshadow is just a mythical Pokémon and Solgaleo/Lunala are the first mascot legends since Gen 2 to not have a trio master, making yet ANOTHER parallel to Gen 2, coincidence or not lol….or
    2) What we are seeing is just a base form/pre-evolution of Marshadow similar to the base form/pre-evolution of Solgaleo and Lunala, and Marshadow still has a big ole secret.
    However, I see possibility 1 as being more likely, and just building off that for a moment, maybe Solgaleo/Lunala do actually have a trio master…maybe Zygarde IS the trio master of both Xerneas/Yveltal and Solgaleo/Lunala…certainly plausible given its chest lights.

    • Ultron

      Maybe those two “pre-evos” of Solgaleo and Lunala can combine into a new pokemon? Making them not evolutions at all.

      • Cosimo

        Maybe they combine into Marshadow…

      • TCRowlet

        I’m not too sure about them combining, they seem directly correlated to Solgaleo and Lunala. Tho at the end of the day, it’s all speculative and anything truly can happen! ^_^

        • Cosimo

          I don’t know how to make the grey box over my text? How do you do that cause I’m sure some people are pissed that I’m saying things about the leaked info

          • TCRowlet

            Your written text

            Just remove the spaces between the

          • Cosimo

            Thanks!

          • TCRowlet

            No problem 🙂

    • Ithsme

      Or maybe the list isn’t complete.

      • Ithsme

        Wait why did I tag that? Oops.

        • Cosimo

          I don’t believe this is the full list.

          • AuroraLights493

            Watch GF release the next trailer on the 27th, and it reveals a Pokémon that WASNT in the data dump, and this was all planned out from the start.
            Then we’ll have to sit back, and watch the Internet lose its collective mind. xD

      • TCRowlet

        I believe this is it other than the possibility of Marshadow having another form at a future point in time

        • Ithsme

          There are just too many reasons pointing toward more. Say what you want, but I’m of the firm belief this isn’t all.

          • TCRowlet

            Can you state your reasoning for that belief? (Not to dismiss it or anything, I just want to know, because it would be nice if there was more tbh).

          • Ithsme

            Yeah, these are just off the top of my head:
            1. Gamexplain said they found more than 1 new pokemon in the first two hours, and none of the leaked pokemon look early game, plus most were evolutions. It’s a stretch, but there’s something there.
            2. The mysterious 6 can’t be totems, firstly we know of 7 trial captains, so there has to be more than 6 totems, plus these are pokedex stills.
            3. We never got the strange souvenir/mahalo trail statue pokemon

          • Ithsme

            Another loose connection: if the tapu was the supposed dolphin and crabralwer was the snowman, why didn’t the leaker specify that? The connections to dolphin/snowman of those pokemon are very loose.

          • TCRowlet

            1) 3 possibilities for new Pokémon they encountered could be Pikipek’s first evolution, Alola Grimer, and Alola Diglett.
            2) If I’m looking at this correctly, there is a “?” after the following Pokémon: Alola Raticate, Gumshoos, Vikavolt, Lurantis, Salandit’s evolution, and Kommo-o. Additionally, Mimikyu has 2 “?’s” after it as does Zygarde. Seeing as the “?’s” come after 3 already confirmed Totem Pokémon, it’s a reasonable assumption that these are the Totem models, which could also count as a form seen in the Pokédex. And counting the version exclusives as 1, I see 7 Totems. There are probably 2 “?s” after Mimikyu to account for both its forms, and 2 “?s” after Zygarde to account for its in-battle transformation.
            3) I believe the Strange Souvenir is the Fire/Fairy Tapu. Remember it is representative of the Tapu with its mask closed, and that one seems like it will match up once we see it closed.
            4) The translation from the leaker was interpreted as snowman, however it could also be interpreted as yeti. And seeing Crabrawler’s evolution, it was a mistranslation.

          • TCRowlet

            Regarding the other two points about the statue and the dolphin. The statue was only speculated to be a Pokémon, and the dolphin quite possibly is the Ghost/Fairy Tapu.

          • Ithsme

            I know the dolphin is the tapu, but honestly, if I was a leaker, I would never call Crab2 and Tapu Poni a snowman (even a yeti) or a dolphin.
            These leaks didn’t come from the riddler, but I don’t know the thought process of the leaker, it seems a stretch have to have MULTIPLE leaks call them a dolphin and snowman, and we get these which barely resemble them.

          • TCRowlet

            Honestly I can see the yeti, but the dolphin I will agree is a stretch. Unless it really is a quite convincing dolphin when its mask is closed xD

          • Ithsme

            It looks like when it closes it’ll look like a ball with a nose lol

          • TCRowlet

            I just realized about Zygarde, the “?” could be for the Core and Cell. In which case yes, there are only 6 Totems which doesn’t add up.

          • Ithsme

            Like I said, it’s all very loose, but so are the things to debunk it. :~:
            There’s some more I forget, if I remeber I’ll let you know. Regardless I still believe there’s more.
            ——-
            Ok seriously though would’nt it be cool if the developers intended for this to get leaked? It’s super unlikely but it’d be a fun twist. The only evidence though is if the totems and other models got scrubbed why didn’t the unused pokemon get scrubbed as well? Just something to make you think.

          • TCRowlet

            Please do!

            The unused Pokémon could’ve gotten scrubbed due to plot relevance. Which tbh, I’m thankful basically nothing about the plot was leaked. I am also thankful for the dex leak, be it complete or not, because I now know what my team will be xD

          • Ithsme

            I’ll try to remember some more.
            But seriously, there’s absolutely no reason they would scrub text, character models, stats, everything, except leave even the unused pokemon unscrubbed. Plus in retrospect the leaks didn’t reveal THAT much, it was stuff that could’ve been covered in 2-3 trailers, so nothing mindblowing.

            Intentional or not, the datamine has definitely given them publicity, I heard it was trending #1 on twitter and facebook.

          • TCRowlet

            I’ll take the same stance that I do with the majority of legitimate leaks. Things like this that can be seen as blunders, often times can be intentional. It gets people talking and speculating and generates more excitement.

          • Ithsme

            Plus it’s nowhere near the blowout that ORAS’s demo gave us.

          • Ben Rhodes

            They are most likely Totems. However Zygardes is the core and cell, though a totem boss would have been cool. And theres probably more than 7 trials, and not all are totem battles, however the 7th would probably be the Wishiwashi boss battle which isn’t a totem battle due to it’s power and ability.
            http://imgur.com/gallery/5C8ry

          • TCRowlet

            Thank you for reminding me about Wishiwashi!

  • Ithsme

    Wait is this the thing the article writers were exicted about or is that still coming?

  • UnburdenedLegume

    Ohmori hints that something special may happen when you transfer Pokemon from RBY to S/M. http://www.usgamer.net/articles/interview-first-time-pokmon-director-shigeru-ohmori-opens-up-about-sun-and-moon

    • Ithsme

      I wonder how all those new numbers and stuff from gens 2-6 are calculated.

      • Ultron

        They all covert to 6IV! 😛

        • Ithsme

          Honestly wouldn’t be surprised.

    • The Queen of Peace

      If they didn’t look at each generation completely from scratch then maybe we wouldn’t have had another bipedal fire starter…

    • TCRowlet

      There was the leak a while back stating Pokémon from Gen 1 will retain their typing and BST…which I find stupid and really hope is not the case.

      • Ultron

        So magnemite wouldn’t be a steel type…?

        • TCRowlet

          Yup, among others like Clefable/Wigglytuff returning to pure Normal type, etc.

          • Ultron

            I feel like that’s unlikely.

          • TCRowlet

            I hope it is!

          • CoolGlaceon

            I mean we already have “Alolan” forms. They could get away with the pure normal Wigglytuff by calling it a “Kanto” form.

          • Ultron

            Yeah but transferring from Gen 5 to Gen 6 converts types so it’s just bizarre that it wouldn’t here. I’ll have to see it to believe it.

          • CoolGlaceon

            Masuda is definitely hinting towards something special about transferred Pokemon from the original games and he seems to be pointing towards EVs, Natures and Abilities.. but retaining original typings would definitely be interesting

          • TCRowlet

            Oh no…

  • Luigi301

    lol all the spoiler tags

  • Jacob Price

    I went with Lance because of his clearly hacked Dragonites, yet no one does anything.

  • The Queen of Peace

    ORAS demo had a lot more to do than SUMO demo

    • Ben Rhodes

      So much in fact you can still use it 2 years on and do more than after you’ve done it all in the S/M one

  • Ithsme

    From GameXplain’s latest video:
    GX said that GF said “we have to work so hard to find the right mix and balance of pokemon
    —–
    At first I thought of commenting this as a joke, as the leaked dex is completely imbalanced, but then I realized it’s another loose connection. What’s that saying again? Oh yeah! “It all comes together”! xD

  • Ithsme

    Something else from GX’s video: GF apparently put alot of effort into post game and wanted to focus on longevity this time. This is exicting to me at least! ^.^

    • TCRowlet

      Give me Kalos or give me death.

      • Ithsme

        B A T T L E F R O N T I E R

        • TCRowlet

          B O T H
          O
          T
          H

      • AlolanSandschrew

        #givemekanto #kantoislife

        • TCRowlet

          There’s nothing left to do in Kanto, it got a post-game time to shiny already ;~; Kalos is the new Kanto. Too many connections between Kalos and Alola.

      • EarthenWarrior

        *Pulls out my Desert Eagle*
        Just say the word

        • TCRowlet

          If Kalos isn’t in, go ahead!

          • EarthenWarrior

            With pleasure
            *Fires*

      • CoolGlaceon

        As much as I’d love to see Laverre in the new engine, I really doubt it T_T

        • TCRowlet

          I just want to get off the train in Couriway Town and cry tears of happiness ;~; It bothers me we got 1 set of games dedicated to Kalos…

          • CoolGlaceon

            Oh right, that thing totally served no purpose. As did the Power Plant.. and the Haunted House.. They really have to do something about these

          • SomeGuy

            No the haunted house was an “experience” with your “friends” lol

          • TCRowlet

            The Chamber of Emptiness. WHAT THE F**K!!!

          • CoolGlaceon

            The Kalos region is the most mysterious region by far, and the fact that they’re just leaving it at that is insane to me. So many questions, so little answers.

          • Ultron

            Almost everything is Kalos served no purpose. Aquarium, bike path, spooky house, power plants, docks, giant windmill, couriway train, sundial thing, pokemon friend place (mewtwo was randomly there), castle near daycare, parfume palace mostly…kalos was a barren wasteland

          • Golden_Monferno

            And there’s like so much that we still don’t know about Kalos, like the train, more about the war, etc.

          • TCRowlet

            Heck, we don’t even know where Yveltal and Xerneas were sleeping. Team Flare found them, but where? It’s just a region full of unfinished business… =/

            And in Anistar, and NPC mentions people came by asking about the legendary Pokémon a few years before Team Flare did. Who are these people? Ugh.

          • Golden_Monferno

            IKR?! Like Xerneas and Yveltal had so little backstory and importance, it was just like: “Oh hey we found this tree/cocoon somewhere and your forced to catch it,” I gotta say, while good for them for tackling Life and Death, they had so much potential to make them great legendaries, yet they were some of the worst ones in my opinion

          • TCRowlet

            Hardly any plot, Kalos feels more like a place-holder for Sun and Moon than anything else. While GF has strayed away from 3rd versions, XY really could’ve used one.

          • Golden_Monferno

            It should have, hopefully SM fills it in for XY’s lack of stuff

  • PitogoXD

    I can’t believe that’s the hole dex…

    • Ithsme

      Good, don’t believe it.

      • PitogoXD

        Maybe in 27 will get that confirmation

        • AlolanSandschrew

          in 27?

          • PitogoXD

            27th October

          • AlolanSandschrew

            ah.. the 23rd was also something right, livestream playing the game or something?

        • Ithsme

          Possibly, but even if it isn’t confirmed I will still have faith!

  • libra

    S/M developers had some interviews, here are some important points:
    – Hawaii was picked because of vacations and that they wanted a place that represents the S/M.
    – Kanto Pokemon were picked only as Alolan Pokemon due to the 20th anniversary.
    – Previous characters from other games will make an appearance.
    – No soaring from OR/AS.
    – The next game is seems to still be in planning.
    – 3D only for cutscenses because GameFreak wanted to have more detailed models and environment, so they restricted the use.
    – No Mega Evolution during the main story. It will be post game as it will focus on Z-Rings and Crystals for the main game.
    – Battles will take place in actual environments.
    – They’re not running out on designs and they want to balance types.

    • Ultron

      No soaring….? So the flying pokeride will literally just be fly??! T-T

      • libra

        Yup. They said they wanted to focus on walking. Charizard Glide replaces Fly.

        • Ultron

          Ugh I’m so mad.

    • Ithsme

      I read that as “no characters from previous games will make an appearance” and panicked a little.

    • Ithsme

      Battles in environments? You mean like environment conditions?

      • libra

        Let’s say you battle in a forest with rocks, the battle environment will reflect it!

        • Ithsme

          XY did that?

          • libra

            Nope! It was quite inconstant. Same as OR/AS.

    • AlolanSandschrew

      ah men… I love soaring..

    • belmad

      They want to balance types in what way?

    • Golden_Monferno

      So they aren’t running out of design ideas, that’s a relief. Hopefully the new Pokemon are a lot this time around if if that’s the case.

    • Ben Rhodes

      Well, that no Soar thing is a missed opportunity

  • Exeledus

    not gunna lie I’m sorta upset that they didn’t at least finish mega flygon. they wanted it in ORAS but couldn’t come up with a solid design, and decided “F*ck it” and scrapped the idea.

    • TCRowlet

      While new Megas likely are not going to be in Sun and Moon, I don’t think new Megas won’t ever happen again. I can definitely see them being used to help market remakes similar to ORAS. It lets them introduce new Pokémon in a remake. Mega Flygon will still happen one day, believe ;~;

      • Exeledus

        ok, just because you told me to I will believe!

        • TCRowlet

          Yay! 😀 xD

        • Ithsme

          HEY! BELIEVE THAT THE DEX ISNT COMPLETE!

          • TCRowlet

            AND I BELIEVE KALOS WILL BE POST-GAME!

            And then it turns out we all are wrong about our beliefs…

          • Ithsme

            …and we get something even better!

          • TCRowlet

            More Looker missions!

          • Ithsme

            Fun…

          • TCRowlet

            XD

          • Ultron

            Tbh they were boring in Kalos

      • Ithsme

        IMO I think new megas will be restricted to remakes/games without new pokemon in them to give those games something new to look forward to.

        • TCRowlet

          Exactly my thinking!

  • Ithsme

    Ok sorry for what looks like spam, but I swear last comment about GX’s video: GF focused on kanto for alola forms because they wanted to give something special to their 20 year long fans. Nothing against people who have been playing for 20 years, but every single person I’ve ever met who has started with gen 1 has been a genwunner. Sure, for the twentieth anniversary, let’s cater to our special fans who won’t even appriaciate these forms and disregard them for being “new”.

    Obvious joke is obvious

    • Exeledus

      you say joke, but I feel that last sentence is a flame shield. I hate the gen 1 pandering myself, but I did start with pokemon green when I was younger.

      • AlolanSandschrew

        Huh? Speak Japanese?

        • Exeledus

          nope, I played my sisters blue side by side because I wanted the venusaur game because I like venusaur. my foster mother found it at a flea market.

          • AlolanSandschrew

            Ah.. Yeah, I wouldn’t preferred Green over the other two… I love the colour and the pokemon.

            Still is a strong concept to put final starterevo’s on the boxart

          • Exeledus

            it was pretty much playing blue, I remember choosing moves being hard.

          • AlolanSandschrew

            haha, I get why XD

      • Ithsme

        I did say no offense to those playing for 20 years. I’m just joking here. xD

    • AlolanSandschrew

      I love that they did something special with the original pokemon, although I wouldnt have mind seeing other gens getting the same treatment aswell..

      I do hope that this is alola exclusive and that we don’t get this when gen 2 turns 20 again or something xD

      • Ithsme

        If I’m being honest here, the original pokemon always get special treatment, it’s not just because of the 20th anniversary.

        • AlolanSandschrew

          it was their breakthrough, so logically speaking they are special…

          Just like debutsingles of artists, any debut really..

          • Ithsme

            First =/= deserves special treatment

            Look, I understand it here, it’s the twentieth anniversary, and this was the roots of pokemon. But look at a larger scale, they get special treatment whether it’s a big anniversary or not.

    • Ultron

      I started with Red, but think Kanto is a super bland region. So boring. I like a good amount of the pokemon, but the pandering is getting so old. Sinnoh and Unova are the best regions, imo.

      • TCRowlet

        I hope you mean Unova from B/W2…Also I’m gonna throw Hoenn into that Top 3…

        • Ultron

          Well, yeah, of course BW2 Unova is better cause it’s got more locations! :3 Hoenn is 3rd although I bet Alola will rank high.

          • TCRowlet

            Unova from B/W2 is so good, and broke up the linearity problem of B/W. Alola definitely is gonna rank high! 😀

          • Ultron

            B2W2 are fantastic. Alola could come in first, we’ll have to see. Sad about no soaring though..that would’ve bumped it even higher

          • AlolanSandschrew

            it really gave hoenn another dimension

          • Ultron

            Soaring is probably top 5 best features.

          • AlolanSandschrew

            ^this

          • TCRowlet

            I’d place sitting on benches above it.

          • Ultron

            Lol, the best feature ever is walking with pokemon though 😉

          • AlolanSandschrew

            I hate the BW battles, pixels..

          • Ultron

            Yeah, those were really bad..

          • AlolanSandschrew

            never understand why (yeah moving pokemon).. DPP & HGSS were better.. They shouldnt released BW/bW2 on the 3ds.. wouldve been so much better

          • Ultron

            At least we’re past the awkward pixel phase xD

          • AlolanSandschrew

            yes, Im already looking forward to DPP & BW/2 remakes with amazing graphics

      • AlolanSandschrew

        I love Hoenn as region! But kanto & Johto are great aswell, feels like a second home to me

        • Ultron

          Yes, they are like a second home. Many fond memories there. But the regions themselves are not as detailed as the later ones (excluding Kalos)

          • AlolanSandschrew

            yes, it needs a update I agree, they could do a climate change difference in like 20 years after the events of RBY…

            Or just an update with more details or something

          • Ultron

            HGSS are still top 3 pokemon games regardless if we ever go back

          • AlolanSandschrew

            I want a remake!

          • Ultron

            Ecruteak would look even better

          • AlolanSandschrew

            I pretty much want a remake of everygame released so far

            RBY
            HGSS
            DPPT
            BW/BW2

            #gamegoals

      • Exeledus

        I like hoenn as a region. and black 2’s unova was much beter than the originals, because the pokemon diversity was perfect. hoping alola will be better than all but we cant say for sure until the games come out.

        • Ultron

          Remembering Kalos and the hype I had, I’m trying to keep my expectations controlled so I’m not disappointed again. But it looks fantastic

      • Mr. EastGovnah

        my top regions are
        1.Sinnoh
        2.Johto
        3.Unova (B2/W2)

    • PercyEspeon

      <—– is a person who started with Yellow. Whatcha sayin, boy?
      jk jk
      But I actually appreciate what they said. And they are right. Gen 1 mons are the ones we know the most, so having them change makes them more refreshing and new. Plus, it's kind of nice to see your childhood fav mons from the game you started with become this new thing, it brings memories back.

      • Ithsme

        I say no offense, I say joke, and I’ve still got people getting all defensive with me. xD I understand why it’s just kanto pokemon, but I’m just making a joke here.

        • PercyEspeon

          It’s why I added jk after my statement, cause I’m joking back xD
          And no worries, I also agree that gen 1 mons do get more treatment than other gen’s mons, but I also agree with them as well.

    • Mr. EastGovnah

      i started with gen 1.
      Trainer name :AAAAAA
      Squirtle : BBBBBB

  • EarthenWarrior

    I just made 112$
    I was helping my mother clear my grandmothers house of clutter to sell and I was allowed to take anything I wish
    So I found her change jar with 112$ worth of quarters

  • Mr. EastGovnah

    well todays my birthday. and im still shiny hunting lol. will my shiny drought end lol

    • EarthenWarrior

      How old you is?

      • Mr. EastGovnah

        old enough to be a father…. so 18

    • PercyEspeon

      Happy birthday 😀 And good luck with the shiny hunting 🙂

    • TCRowlet

      Happy Birthday 🙂

      • Mr. EastGovnah

        Im a old man now
        GET OFF MY LAWN YOU PESKY ROWLET

        • TCRowlet

          *Shits on the lawn and flies away*

          • Mr. EastGovnah

            these damn pokemon and their new high end bowels

          • Ithsme

            *flys in a sits on your lawn*

          • Mr. EastGovnah

            AHH A SHINY *shakes cane*

    • Ultron

      Happiny Birthday!

    • Ithsme

      hb

    • MewMew

      Happy birthday!~ hope you find your shiny and that you have a good one ^_^

    • TheHipsterRowlet

      Happy Birthday ^_^

    • happy birthday duuude! ^^

  • Well looks like Lance is going to win but Shauntal is still my favorite. It’s too bad she didn’t win Unova. My vote is Karen.

    • Mr. EastGovnah

      oh me too. Karen is true e4 winner in my heart.

  • belmad

    I have a question

    The little two spacy Pokemon are seem to come after each other in some Pokedex pictures and I only see them coming before Solgaleo and Lunaana in one Pokedex picture. Which one is correct?

    • Shady

      Tese little 2 actually come before Solgaleo and Lunaana I didn’t know y ppl think they r pre-evolution but for sure they r related by some, maybe core or supporter.

      • belmad

        Yes if they are after each other, and not one before Sol and one before Luna then they are not preevolutions. That’s why I wonder the order.

  • Ithsme

    Ok, I apoligize to those of you who I actually offended with my joke a few minutes ago, maybe it was a little too profiling for a joke.

  • Golden_Monferno

    Comment Question: If you were a Gym Leader/Elite Four/Champion/Kahuna/Evil Team Leader/Trial Captain, what would your type specialty/theme be and the Pokemon you would use?

    • Ithsme

      Flying type
      – Noivern
      – Staraptor
      – Tropius
      – Gliscor
      – Togekiss
      – Excadrill

      • EarthenWarrior

        Get that Excadrill off that list boy

        • Ithsme

          No it’s literally the best to go with this team

          • EarthenWarrior

            Then replace it with Skarmory
            You aren’t worthy of Excadrill

            You can’t call yourself a flying type trainer if Excadrill bails you out

      • Mr. EastGovnah

        that random ground type

        • Ithsme

          It’s not random; it’s highly calculated.
          Electric type? Not with excadrill
          Ice? Part steel
          Rock? I don’t think so.
          Stealth rock? SPIN IT UP

      • TCRowlet

        LOL Excadrill

        • Ithsme

          It may sound random but it’s well thought out trust me.

          • TCRowlet

            Oh no I like your thought process behind it, it’s just funny seeing Flying type, and then poof there’s Excadrill xD

    • TCRowlet

      Flying: Skarmory, Unfezant, Talonflame, Gyarados, Rowlet3, Mega Altaria (It starts out part Flying, it counts dammit!)

      • Ithsme

        BIRDS FTW

      • EarthenWarrior

        No it doesn’t
        Same as those Jackasses with flying monos who use Mega Gyarados
        It should have to stay that type regardless of form change

        • TCRowlet

          My team my rules! xD

          • EarthenWarrior

            Bench Failgold

    • EarthenWarrior

      obviously Ground
      I would either be Gym Leader but Evil Team Leader is right up my alley
      But I like the idea of a Trial Captain where I would make you do a treasure hunting quest

      • Golden_Monferno

        Sounds very nice

        • EarthenWarrior

          Screw it, Leader of Team Gaia, a band of rough trainers who’s goal is to resurrect a ancient giant Pokemon that is sleeps under the earth’s crust

    • PitogoXD

      My Poison-Type Team:
      -Salandit evo
      -Crobat
      -Skuntank
      -Muk (Alolan Form)
      -Toxicroak
      -Dragalge

      • Golden_Monferno

        Sounds cool, nice to see someone else that likes Alolan Muk

    • Cosimo

      Ice type:
      Beartic
      Mamoswine
      Weavile
      Frosslass
      Abomasnow
      Glaceon

      • Cosimo

        or Dark type:
        Honchkrow
        Pangoro
        Hydreigon
        Weavile
        Houndoom
        Umbreon

    • Ben Rhodes

      Water:
      Lapras
      Azumarill
      Ludicolo
      Buizel
      Swanna
      Dragalge (Counts cause it evolves from a Water Type)

      • EarthenWarrior

        Dragalge most definitely doesn’t count

        • Ben Rhodes

          Dragalge is a Seahorse just because it loses it’s Water Typing doesn’t mean it doesn’t count.

          • EarthenWarrior

            No he doesn’t

          • Ben Rhodes

            Yeah I checked right after, but it’s still evolves from a Water type so why can’t it count?

          • EarthenWarrior

            Siebold uses Clawitzer,
            it lost its water typing to be a Dragon
            The whole point of a mono team is to use only one type, preferably one that you specialize in
            Using even one non-type breaks the tradition

          • zeldaoreonerd

            The question didn’t specify mono type, it said theme/specialty. So technically Dragalge counts…

          • EarthenWarrior

            Shaddup, everyone is posting Gym leader teams so it might as well be mono

          • Ben Rhodes

            I’d argue that several type specialists use Pokemon not their type.
            Agatha uses mostly Poisons despite being Ghost, Lance uses flying types, Brunio uses Onix, karen has a vileplume. Then we have flint with 1 fire in D/P. And so on.

          • EarthenWarrior

            That was all Elite four, and back then there weren’t enough types to fill the team
            Very poor argument since nowadays if a type specialist specializes in something it’s all monotype

          • Ben Rhodes

            The Striaton trio also use Lilipup.

          • EarthenWarrior

            And they fixed it in platinum
            Mono means mono, no additions

          • Ben Rhodes

            That still doesn’t change the fact that the Striaton Trio had Lilipups when they could have had only the Monkeys or a second Pokemon of their type.

          • Ben Rhodes

            Theres still no reason for the Striaton trio, they could have just not used Lillipup

          • EarthenWarrior

            Just use a Tentacruel it’s basically the same thing

          • Ben Rhodes

            I wanted 1 from each gen

          • EarthenWarrior

            How about Barbaracle

          • Ben Rhodes

            I considered it, and even used it in this team, but considered it’s 4x weakness to Grass and figured Dragalge could deal with that better

    • PercyEspeon

      Psychic 🙂
      Meowstic
      Espeon
      Gardevoir
      Malamar
      Delphox
      Gothitelle

      • PercyEspeon

        Separate team for Dragon (can’t abandon my second fav type!)
        Dragalge
        Salamence
        Kingdra
        Hydreigon
        Kommo-o
        Dragonite

    • Chaos

      Evil Team Leader.
      Evil scientist responsible for exploiting a Pokemons power for medical research. On the surface this is seen as a Positive thing, but the protagonists uncovers some deep dark secrets behind the organisation.

      Pokemon:
      Gardevoir
      Lycanrock
      Scrafty
      Metagross (Mega)

    • The Last Kurusu

      This is tough for me torn between

      Water:
      Politoed
      Poliwrath
      Omastar
      Seismitoad
      Luvdisc
      Lanturn

      • The Last Kurusu

        Or there’s another after this too

        Grass:
        Tsareena
        Jumpluff
        Gogoat
        Parasect
        Bellossom
        Breloom

        • The Last Kurusu

          And Finally

          Dark:
          Weavile
          Honchkrow
          Umbreon
          Tyranitar
          Alolan Raticate
          Houndoom

          But when not type specific (Cynthia like for Champion)
          Mega Aggron
          Butterfree
          Mimikyu
          Politoed
          Weavile
          Tsareena

    • Ghost

      Froslass
      Gourgeist
      Mismagius
      Chandelure
      Aegislash

      or Fairy

      Slurpuff
      Gardevoir
      Ribombee
      Alolan Ninetails
      Whimsicott
      Popplio3 (come on it’s obviously a fairy)

    • Ultron

      Champ, no type specialty:
      -Volcarona
      -Honchkrow
      -Magnezone
      -Garchomp
      -Milotic
      -Snorlax

      Bring it, Cynthia

    • MewMew

      It’s such a hard choice but my 3rd favorite typing Dragon:
      Flygon
      Flygon
      Flygon
      Flygon
      Flygon
      And last but not least
      Flygon

    • Haxford

      Definitely a Dragon-type Trainer ’cause it’s my favorite type
      Haxorus (Dragon)
      Dragalge (Poison/Dragon)
      Dragonite (Dragon/Flying)
      Hydreigon (Dark/Dragon)
      Drampa (Normal/Dragon)
      Garchomp (Dragon/Ground)

      • Golden_Monferno

        I would do the same thing too because I love so many Dragons, this would probably be my team:
        Turtonator
        Kommo-O
        Dragonite
        Kingdra
        Noivern
        Mega Charizard X (Shiny)

    • TheHipsterRowlet

      Grass 😀
      Roserade (Grass/Poison)
      Tsareena (Grass)
      Lilligant (Grass)
      Jumpluff (Grass/Flying)
      Whimsicott (Grass/Fairy)
      Lurantis (Grass)

      or maybe Water

      Vaporeon (Water)
      Huntail (Water)
      Swanna (Water/Flying)
      Sharpedo (Water/Dark)
      Ludicolo (Water/Grass)
      Kingdra (Water/Dragon)

      • Golden_Monferno

        Cool!

  • Ithsme

    @TCRowlet I remembered some more evidence.
    Charizard isn’t in the leaked dex, despite being a ride pokemon and being seen in many trailers.

  • CoolGlaceon

    Remember the Lumiose ghost? The horde of faceless men? The Couriway train? The locked doors at the Kalos Power Plant?

    I wonder if GF just forgot about these or they’re planning on expanding on these.. in the remakes

    • Ithsme

      TCRowlet in a minute: “Or maybe we’ll go back to Kalos!”

    • belmad

      KaLOST where nothing is actually answered and every mystery is just solely there to add some mystery.

      • Ultron

        Kalos: the edgy region.

      • CoolGlaceon

        I remember being so excited about a possible event for the Kalos Power Plant keys.. 1 gen later and zilch

      • Golden_Monferno

        And the exp share makes everything easy lol

    • TCRowlet

      Save unanswered questions for post-game relevance in Sun and Moon, giving Kalos some actual plot, unlike Kanto in Gold and Silver.

      • Ithsme

        Close enough

        • TCRowlet

          We were already having this Kalos discussion down below xP

      • CoolGlaceon

        one of the reasons I could never finish HGSS.. also, I just feel lost and way too tired of seeing the same team over and over again whenever I reach Kanto

    • Ben Rhodes

      The only answer I have for the Hode of Faceless men is Zygarde, the things behind it’s head, apart from that I can’t figure out why or how.

  • Ithsme

    @TCRowlet IT’S ALL FLOODING BACK NOW
    Horsea isn’t in the dex leaks, despite being on a statue and it’s evos being seen in many trailers. They wouldn’t make a statue of a non native pokemon.

    • Chaos

      Why not?

      • Ithsme

        Why not what?

        • Chaos

          Why not erect a statue of a non native Pokemon

          • Ithsme

            Think about it for a second. Say a kid who’s new to pokemon just bought the game, and they found the horsea statue, and they absolutely fell in love with the pokemon. They’d want to find it so bad, but it’d be likely transfer only. Once again, nothing definite, just small loose connections that pile up.

          • belmad

            What a tragedy

    • TCRowlet

      Oh yeah, also Swablu is seen in the Festival Plaza, yet isn’t in the dex leaks.

      • Ithsme

        Even more evidence! 😀

        • Cosimo

          I’m not sure that was all of them. I think there are a lot more, just these ones got leaked…

        • Mr. EastGovnah

          Rotom

    • Mr. EastGovnah

      EVIDENCE 😀

    • PercyEspeon

      Sorry to burst your bubble slightly, but in the Golurk statue in Parfum Palace, one of the mons there is Palpitoad, and I don’t think Palpitoad is obtainable in the wild in XY. Plus Reshiram and Zekrom aren’t available in XY and they are statues too

      • Mr. EastGovnah

        Its not but it obtainable through the FS but thats a post-game thing

        • PercyEspeon

          Maybe that could count, but I dunno. I’m still on their side, the dex feels off to me. But I’m also ok if that’s all there is

          • Mr. EastGovnah

            the dex feels incomplete to me, the 11 standalones alone are the weirdest part and how they are all on one island supposedly

  • Mr. EastGovnah

    man im pretty with this new avi

    • Ithsme

      So am I lol

  • Shady

    Can I change my avatar to one of the pokemon whose didn’t reveal pokemon yet colud that count as spoiler? r u Ok with that mods?

  • So, apparently Surf, Waterfall, and Fly are TM’s. But the rest of the HM’s aren’t. And Leech Life has replaced Dig as a TM.

    • Mr. EastGovnah

      at least my handsome self can still learn it 😉

    • PercyEspeon

      I don’t get the Leech Life TM thing….like….Dig>Leech Life. Super weird. I’m also sad that Struggle Bug won’t be a TM, because I love Struggle Bug and teaching it to mons

      • Mr. EastGovnah

        maybe dig will be part of the move tutor?

        • PercyEspeon

          You’re probably right I’m hoping struggle bug can be move tutor or they change it so some mons can learn it naturally

      • Perhaps Leech Life will be powered up? Remember that the dataminers said the move data was scrubbed.

    • CoolGlaceon

      Out of all the moves they could choose from

    • EarthenWarrior

      Just to continue making me hate the new game

      • Mr. EastGovnah

        ur still gonna buy it

        • EarthenWarrior

          Hell yeah but I won’t be like super thrilled about the dex list
          I still want to play the story and get mah Mudsdale and Pallosand

  • PercyEspeon

    I love the fact that HMs no longer exist. Like, it’s a relief that they learned they can do roadblocks through other, less aggravating means.

    • Mr. EastGovnah

      but whose gonna cut my grass now, i dont have a Mower Rotom

  • Cosimo

    Out of all the starters in all the regions, which would be your Partner Pokemon? Mine would be Oshawott.

    • Shady

      Litten3 ……I have a soul of a tiger.

    • PercyEspeon

      That’s so difficult! D:
      But I’d have to go with Piplup. I may love most of the fire starters, but Piplup’s been my fav starter since I played Diamond.

    • The Last Kurusu

      Popplio Turtwig or Oshawott

    • TCRowlet

      Omg, it would be either Sceptile, Chesnaught, or Rowlet3. Right now, probably would have to be Sceptile, although depending how much I enjoy Rowlet3, can easily take top spot.

    • CoolGlaceon

      Piplup? Popplio? Rowlet? Torchic? Oshawott? Bulbasaur? Idk this question’s way too difficult

    • EarthenWarrior

      Tepig

    • Ben Rhodes

      Squirtle, Cyndaquil, Treeko, Torchic, Turtwig, Oshawott, Tepig, Chespin or Litten.
      I can’t choose

    • j.mblaq

      Treecko

    • Golden_Monferno

      A tie between Charmander, Chimchar, and Rowlet.

    • Jacob Price

      Tie between Charmander and Treecko

    • Haxford

      Piplup, or maybe Oshawott.

    • Ultron

      Turtwig or maybe Rowlet. I could ride on Torterra though.

    • MewMew

      Hm there’s so many good questions here xD this is actually a really tough choice for me between Blaziken, Litten3, and Delphox. A little backstory even though I started with Pokemon Yellow my favorite region is actually Hoenn and so Blaziken always had a very special spot in my heart but Delphox became a starter who meant just as much xD

    • SomeGuy

      Either Mudkip, Charmander, or Snivy.

  • TCRowlet

    Is there anything specific I have to do to be able to see Alola Dugtrio in the demo, or is it just random luck?

    • Mr. EastGovnah

      random luck to see this handsome fellow

      • TCRowlet

        Thanks!

  • OG Bulba

    I’m sorry to ask but I’m too busy to scroll thru all the comments but has any new came out after the Things that came out I’m typing in a hurry and couldn’t get the grey bar up lol

    • Mr. EastGovnah

      it spoiler not spoilers 🙂

      • OG Bulba

        Sorry I can’t really be on my phone and I can’t see what I’m typing I said I was going to the restroom to type this don’t judge me lmao

        • Mr. EastGovnah

          its fine just trying to help u out 😀

  • j.mblaq

    Whats your favorite starter from each region?
    Mine: charmander, chikorita, treecko, piplup, oshawott, fennekin, and popplio

    • Mr. EastGovnah

      Squirtle, Cyndaquil, Mudkip, Chimcar, Tepig, Chespin, Litten

      • j.mblaq

        4 out 7 are starters my brother would choose

    • TCRowlet

      Charmander, Totodile, Treecko, Piplup, Snivy, Chespin, Rowlet

    • Pokemania88

      Charmander
      Totodile
      Treecko
      Chimchar
      Oshawott
      Froakie
      Rowlet

    • PercyEspeon

      Gen 1 – Charmander (second Squirtle)
      Gen 2 – Cyndaquil (second Chikorita)
      Gen 3 – Torchic (second Treecko)
      Gen 4 – Piplup (second Chimchar)
      Gen 5 – Snivy (second Oshawott)
      Gen 6 – Fennekin (second Chespin)
      Gen 7 – So far all three, I can’t make a final decision until I use all of them and I love all of their designs (yes, I can say that now since Litten 3’s grown on me)

      • j.mblaq

        i luv them all too!!! however, I decided to go with the siren because its a cool concept and there’s a chance it could be the first fairy starter and its shiny has blond hair!!

        • PercyEspeon

          I’m more leaning on Rowlet so far, but I usually base fav starters by how I feel after using them and whatnot, so I won’t have a definite answer until I play the games
          (Despite my icon having a Litten hat, still love the line, but Litten 3 is the weakest at this point for me, doesn’t mean I hate it though)

          • j.mblaq

            I luv its design and how it looks like it just came out of assassin’s creed and how its literally the only flying type pokemon in gen 7 that looks cool. why isnt there any other cool looking flying type pokemon? :/

    • Jacob Price

      Charmander, Totodile, Treecko, Turtwig, Snivy, Froakie, Litten

    • OG Bulba

      Bulbasaur, Totodile, Treecko, Turtwig, Tepig, Chespin, Rowlet

      • j.mblaq

        wow, five of them are grass type, sense a pattern here,,,kind of

        • PercyEspeon

          4 of my faves were fire xD Fire all the way

          • j.mblaq

            I lean more towards water :^)

          • OG Bulba

            My second favorites are Squirtle, Cyndaquil, Torchic, Piplup, Snivy, Froakie, Litten

        • OG Bulba

          Lol yeah ppl tell me that all the time but I really don’t know why I just like the design of them and see I like Popplio but the thing that kind of ruined it was Brionne

        • Ultron

          I’ve got 2 water, 2 fire, 3 grass.

    • TheSunnyMonster6893

      Squirtle, Cyndaquil, Treecko, Piplup, Oshawott, Chespin, and Litten

    • Golden_Monferno

      Kanto: Bulbasaur (though Charmander is pretty cool too)
      Johto: Cyndaquil
      Hoenn: All three are great, but I do like Swampert more
      Sinnoh: Like Hoenn, except Infernape steals the show
      Unova: Samurott
      Kalos: A tie between Chesnaught and Greninja
      Alola: I actually like all of them, even Litten’s final evolution, it’s growing on me

    • Cosimo

      Kanto: Charmander
      Johto: Cyndaquill
      Hoenn: Mudkip
      Sinnoh: Piplup
      Unova: Oshawott
      Kalos: Fennekin
      Alola: Litten

    • AlolanSandschrew

      Kanto: bulbasaur
      Johto: cyndaquil
      Hoenn: mudkip
      Sinoh: piplup
      Unova: snivy
      Kalos: fennekin
      Alola: rowlet

      • AlolanSandschrew

        I really like chikorita, squirtle, chimchar and torchic aswell though

    • Prashanth Raghuram

      Bulbasaur, cyndaquil, treecko, turtwig, snivy, chespin, rowlet/popplio

    • j.mblaq

      not so many popplio fans out there?

      • TCRowlet

        To quote shofu, “And then of course we have Popplio’s evolution line, complete ass, garbage, booty butt, doodoo butter, garbage, trash shit.”

        I don’t agree, I like all 3, but when I first saw that I couldn’t stop laughing xD

        • j.mblaq

          I believe shofu isn’t really into feminine design, he’s more in it for the bulky, masculine pokemon. However Kingnappy is choosing popplio, I think lol

        • Chaos

          Lol. I honestly love shofu’s opinion videos. Whether I agree or not, I can’t stop laughing.

    • Haxford

      Charmander
      Totodile
      Torchic
      Piplup
      Oshawott
      Fennekin
      Rowlet

    • Ultron

      Squirtle
      Totodile
      Torchic
      Turtwig
      Snivy
      Fennekin (If I have to pick one)
      Rowlet

    • Chaos

      Charmander
      Cyndaquil
      Torchic
      Chimchar
      Oshawott
      Froakie
      Rowlet

    • TheHipsterRowlet

      Gen 1 – Squirtle
      Gen 2 – Totodile
      Gen 3 – Mudkip
      Gen 4 – Piplup
      Gen 5 – Oshawott
      Gen 6 – Fennekin
      Gen 7 – Rowlet

    • Jackattack72

      Squirtle!!, totodile, treecko, turtwig, oshawott, froakie, POPPLIO!

    • Ben Rhodes

      Squirtle, Cyndaquil, Torchic, Turtwig, Oshawott, Chespin, Litten

    • zebstriker

      Squirtle
      Totodile or Cyndaqiul
      Mudkip
      All 3
      Snivy and Oshawott
      Chespin but not it’s evos
      Popplio

    • EarthenWarrior

      charmander
      Cyndaquil
      Torchic
      Chimchar
      Tepig
      Chespin
      Litten

    • MewMew

      Charmander
      Cyndaquil (Chikorita comes in close)
      Torchic
      Turtwig
      Oshawott
      Fennekin
      Litten

    • SomeGuy

      Charmander, Cyndaquil, Mudkip, Piplup, Snivy, Chespin, Popplio.

    • Gamer Dragon07

      Kanto: Charmander
      Jhoto: Totodile
      Hoenn: Torchic
      Sinnoh: Piplup
      Unova: Snivy
      Kalos: Fennekin
      Alola: Litten

  • TCRowlet

    I hope they make a Complete Zygarde themed n3DS XL. I’d buy it in a heartbeat.

    • Mr. EastGovnah

      it most likely will be a faceplate

      • TCRowlet

        Then I’ll have to buy a regular n3DS and get it. Would vastly prefer an XL design however.

        • Mr. EastGovnah

          the Sun and moon one is nice tho

          • TCRowlet

            Yeah it is, and I’ll probably end up buying it, but Complete Zygarde is my favorite legendary 😀

  • Prashanth Raghuram

    Just curious is there anybody left unspoiled as of yet?

  • j.mblaq

    Okay, seriously though but what’s your sun and moon in-game team because looking at the whole dex, I only have four that I honestly love?
    Popplio, Lurantis, Kommo-o, and Alolan Marowak

    • Ben Rhodes

      Whatever I catch and sticks

      • j.mblaq

        so you’re one of the go-with-the-flow kinda players

        • Ben Rhodes

          On my first playthrough. After that I plan as I go ahead, trying not to use the same Pokemon twice.

        • Ben Rhodes

          Only on my first playthrough, after that I plan so I don’t use the same pokemon more than once

    • EarthenWarrior

      Heatigre
      Lycanroc
      Mudsdale
      Bewear
      Carapod
      Kommo-o

      • j.mblaq

        I somehow knew you were gonna choose lycanroc, mudsdale, and kommo-o, but bewear came as a surprise to me. And what’s carapod, is that wimpod’s evo?

        • EarthenWarrior

          https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/7298339/Screen_Shot_2016-10-18_at_10.32.36_AM.0.png

          I mean have you seen those claws?
          Bewear was kinda a settle, I mean I know deep down I was at least try to catch one, I wanted to see if we got a decent Electric or Steel type which clearly didn’t happen

          • Ultron

            The anchor might be part steel. I’d guess steel/ghost. Even though anchors go in the water I don’t see how they could manipulate it.

          • EarthenWarrior

            That thing is stoopid
            I considered Turtonator but nahhh

          • Ultron

            Yeah I said this already but the anchor looks like the cryogonal of this gen: animate object with ugly design that doesn’t evolve.

          • thegreatcarbinkle

            i thought that anchor was made from wood

          • EarthenWarrior

            Do you hear what you just said…

          • Ultron

            I think that’s rust. A wood anchor would float lol. The wheel is probably wood

          • thegreatcarbinkle

            NNNNNN it looked like wood

          • Ultron

            But the anchor part is a different color brown than the wheel part. It’s more of an orangey

          • thegreatcarbinkle

            can we just agree is just an ugly design lol. (you probably are right)

          • Ultron

            Yes, yes we can.

          • Cosimo

            I’d guess ghost/water or steel/water

          • Ultron

            Another steel/water would be good. Seems very ghostly though

          • Shady

            I gave up on Wishiwashi cuz of that …..best bug type by far, u can call it Shredder though….I hope still Bug-Water type.

          • Ultron

            Idk…It’s still second to Volcarona in my book 😉

          • j.mblaq

            It looks more like a bug/steel now

    • Ultron

      Probably:
      -Rowlet
      -Lycanroc
      -Wimpod
      -Salandit
      -Crabrawler
      -??? Maybe spider thing if it’s an electric type or dark?

      Honeslty I feel like a lot of the types overlap in this gen just because of the dual types they chose. I REALLY hope there are more. The lack of fire types is disappointing. Only 3 that aren’t litten and two (seemingly) don’t evolve.

      Alternatively:
      -Rowlet
      -Vikavolt
      -Sea Urchin
      -Salandit
      -Crabrawler
      -Lycanroc

      • j.mblaq

        They do overlap!!! If Kommo-o wasn’t a fighting type and was a steel type instead, I would have chosen passimian to be in my team

        • Ultron

          It’s disappointing…especially because a lot of the cool ones seem to be bug and flying types. Fight/dragon is obvi a cool type but steel/dragon would’ve fit my team better

        • Chaos

          Exactly. I would have picked Crabrawler if Kommo-o wasn’t part fighting

    • Sunny

      Popplio, Salandit2, Tsareena, Mimikyu are for certain. Wimpod2, Crabrawler2, Alien spider, Anchor, Sea Urchin all interest me and I am not sure which to put in my last two slots.

    • Cosimo

      Cosimo (Sun 1):

      Litten3
      Kommo-o
      Pikipek3
      Lycanroc (Midday)
      Anchor wheel
      Komala

      Aurora (Sun 2):

      Popplio3
      Bewear
      Oricorio (Baile Style)
      Ninetales (Alolan Form)
      Lurantis
      Blue/Pink prickly (the one that was leaked on the cover of the card game)

      Jeff (Moon):

      Rowlet3
      Drampa
      Oranguru
      Lycanroc (Midnight)
      Yeti Crab
      Salandit2

    • Chaos

      Rowlet
      Rockruff
      Salandit
      Jangmo-o

      Depending on typing that Bubble Spider or that wierd thing, or maybe just nothing else and stick with 4

      • Ultron

        What’s “that weird thing?” The sea urchin?

        • Chaos

          I think that’s it. I was looking for the right word, my mind blanked :p

    • AlolanSandschrew

      Only rowlet, jangmo-o, a sandshrew, lycanroc day & turtinator..

      Only 5

    • Popplio, Lurantis, Mimikyu, Salandit, Oricoro Yellow, Lycanock/Alolan Ninetales

    • TheReece25

      Togetic
      Rowlet3
      Litten3
      Lycanroc (Sun)
      Raichu ( Alolan)
      Greninja ( Ash-Greninja only for league and post game)

    • Prince Fae

      Moon Team:
      Popplio3
      Comfey
      Mimikyu
      Alolan Ninetails
      Morelull 2
      Ribombee

      Sun Team (if I get it)
      Rowlet3
      Pykumuku (or purple sea creature thing)
      Pom Pom Oricorio
      Minior (or Lycanrock)
      Tsareena
      Drampa or Crabrawler Evo

      • Ultron

        You better pray no poison or steel types come your way for that first team.

        • Prince Fae

          in game I can deal with them no problem, so its not a big deal for me. Mono fairies is my niche so I gotta do it for my first run every gen (obviously since gen 6 because thats when fairies happened) ^_^

  • Ultron

    Honestly I can’t believe they only kept 3 lines of pokemon secret (excluding legendaries/tapu’s) if this dex is indeed all we got. One of those lines doesn’t even evolve.

    • Chaos

      Yeh, I find that very hard to believe.

      As much as I enjoyed the regular reveals that they had going on, I would have preferred not having them so regularly if they were to reveal pretty much 90% before the games come out.

      • Ultron

        Yeah. Maybe they just thought if they gave us most of the dex there wouldn’t be as much leaking or something..too bad that turned out untrue. It’s just hard to make a team with only new ones.

        • TheReece25

          I understand. I’m gonna use Greninja .. but that’s kind of new

          • Ultron

            It at least has something new about it

          • TheReece25

            True! =]

    • TheReece25

      What do you mean? There are more Pokemon not leaked yet? How do we know?

      • Ultron

        No, I mean given the dex that leaked, Gamefreak revealed everything except 3 lines: Sea Urchin (which ended up leaking before anyway), the spider thing, and the anchor. Everything else they either showed us or showed us something in its evolutionary line.

        • TheReece25

          Oh wow that’s cool. I’m guessing they kind of knew this was bound to happen then. I still think The starters have a hidden ability like Ash-Greninja maybe.. Something we’re missing

          • Ultron

            At this point I’m guessing unique Z-moves, which is super lame because I’m not going to be using them.

          • TheReece25

            Yeah but i don’t know how that’s special though.. Plenty have their own z-move already.

  • TheReece25

    I think this kind of confirms the starters something special lies in their hidden ability. Something that couldn’t be leaked. Like Ash-Greninja I hope.

  • AlolanSandschrew

    question: does anybody know if the riddler has another update after the datamine leak? I[m curious

    • Ben Rhodes

      I wouldn’t trust anything new from him, the first stuff he was right about but I think at some point he started winging it, as seen by Toucan not being next to Pikipek.

  • Ben Rhodes

    The guy who put this together has changed the question marks to say Totem, and in the case of Zygarde, Cell and Core.
    http://imgur.com/gallery/5C8ry
    Theres 7, 2 represent the same trial, making 6, but Wishiwashi School form is a boss of another trial, I’d assume it’s not a Totem due to it’s Ability, but still a boss, so 7 Battles. I do hope theres more than 7 Trials though.
    But so far we have, Normal, Electric, Grass, Fire, Ghost, Dragon, which all have Totems, and Water. But 7 still doesn’t seem like much, theres got to be at least 3 more.

    • Shady

      I want Zyagrade start from Core not Dog….I mean I want Core available in the battle.

    • joker901

      I’ve been sayinf this for hours. Those marks was clearly totem pokemon

      • Ben Rhodes

        Despite the evidence people denied it, even though theres nothing between Raticate and Spearow in the Dex.

  • MenacingCascoon

    Lol Hi guys. Haven’t been here a while teehee, just came to say Im disappointed Karen isn’t winning. Come on how can you guys not like her famous Phrase
    “Strong Pokémon. Weak Pokémon. That is only the selfish perception of people. Truly skilled trainers should try to win with their favorites”

    • TCRowlet

      Go on chatango!! :O

      • Ithsme

        Chatango is dead.

        • TCRowlet

          I still use it for PMs with regi whenever he is on.

          • Ithsme

            oh.

    • MenacingCascoon

      Haven’t seen any news since Salandit. Im ready to conquer these gym leaders w00t. Well back into the shadows I go

    • Ultron

      I mean her Weavile could basically solo Lances whole team so…

    • PercyEspeon

      I just happen to love Caitlin more (although my fav of the Unova League Shauntal, didn’t win)

    • Prince Fae

      She’s honestly so fabulous and I live by her motto 100% <3

    • Mr. EastGovnah

      Hi nice to see you again

    • MewMew

      Hello Cascoon! its great to see ya ^-^

  • LoquaciousUxie

    My vote goes to Phoebe because of the ghost girl thing mostly, but her design is cool too.

  • Porygans

    Can someone say how many pokemon we in total got in s/m and compare it to gen 6

    • Ben Rhodes

      Gen 6 introduced 71 excluding Mega evolutions, Gen 7 has 81 including Ultrabeasts and excluding Alolan Forms or at leasts that’s what I counted here
      http://imgur.com/gallery/5C8ry

      • TheReece25

        I would of included alolan and not included UB personally

        • Ben Rhodes

          Theres a reason I included UB, they’re catchable and so have Dex Numbers , I didn’t include Alolan forms because they seem to still be their original Dex Number, which is also why I didn’t count Mega Evolutions

  • Mr. EastGovnah

    Has anyone noticed that a safari ball was used by the grunt to send out a yungoos? does that mean a comeback of the safari zone?

    • Porygans

      Lets first hope that there are more pokemon them worry about the safari zone.

    • MenacingCascoon

      Why is your comment covered in bars?

      • PercyEspeon

        It’s spoilers 🙂

        • Ultron

          Is it though? It’s from the demo.

          • PercyEspeon

            I mean, true, I do it just in case

          • Mr. EastGovnah

            Cascoon hasnt seen any info after july. so im being respectful

        • Sunny

          How do we do spoilers again?

          • PercyEspeon

            Look at TCRowlet’s comment 🙂

        • MenacingCascoon

          How intriguing I like the layout changes! I can be here and not worry about spoilers, but I think I will just stay today, then go

      • TCRowlet

        Your text here

    • Sunny

      If so, we know that there are Yungoos in the safari zone.

    • PercyEspeon

      I thought it was a nest ball welp xD

      • Mr. EastGovnah

        oh it kinda does look one opps

    • Prince Fae

      I was hoping so much for some new balls and the return of some special old ones, but all we seem to have gotten is the weird UB ball, fingers crossed for safari zone

  • TheReece25

    First time i’m kin of dissapointed at no character whose interest in conest likelty to be included… This gen has the perfect pokemon for it.. Popplio3 Cutifly Alolan vulpix that mantis grass thing comfey that grass queeen thing.. maybe more

    • Ultron

      That one blue building at the base of the volcano on the second island looks like it could maybe be a contest hall.

      • Ben Rhodes

        Isn’t that the Battle Royale dome?

        • Ultron

          I didn’t know it had a building. I thought that was just a mode you could do online.

          • Ben Rhodes

            In trailers theres a building with a blue roof that has 4 coloured boxing gloves that seems to be the dome.

      • TheReece25

        I hope.. I hope one of Ash;s companions is interested

        • Prince Fae

          as long as its not the female one again, I’m tired of them always going the contest route

          • TheReece25

            Well it doesn’t have to be the main girl, Mallow. Maybe one of the other girls. Contest were added for girls, though maybe a little stereotypical. I hope they add guy rivals for her like Drew

          • Serenotic

            Right!? I’d love to see, for once, Ash’s female companion aspire to be the best and also compete in gym challenges and the Pokémon league. I want pokemon to move away from gender stereotypes, but I guess we have to remember many different cultures watch/play pokemon so it may take more time.

          • Serenotic

            By the way, Hi Prince! 😀

          • Prince Fae

            this

    • TheReece25

      edit

  • MenacingCascoon

    Sorry for the spam, but Im really glad to see you guys again, and some new faces. Even though I’ll only be here today, I’m glad to see you guys again after months. Then on the 18th I can really talk about pokemon since I still don’t no many new pokemon Lol.

    • Mr. EastGovnah

      Did ya miss me. because i missed you

      • Pokemania88

        Omg I love the new profile pic.

    • Mr. EastGovnah

      be careful tho. people do tend to post spoilers without the tag

      • MenacingCascoon

        Heck yea I missed you, and thanks I won’t be here very long

        • Mr. EastGovnah

          I miss our constant bickering and arguing about pokemon

    • Cosimo

      Hey, good to see you again! Sorry it wont be for long, but we’ll get to see more of you on the 18th of November!

    • Ithsme

      Oh yeah, where have you been? :O

    • Pokemania88

      Omg so glad you’re back man. Where’d you leave to btw?

    • SomeGuy

      Nice to meetcha. I’m a new guy

  • Exeledus

    I think i’ve finally decided.
    Sirenade
    Bewear
    Tsareena
    Ninetails
    Salandit
    Goodra

    • Leo

      Is Sirenade the official name?

      • Exeledus

        Oh no just my best guess. Its a mix of Siren and Serenade.

        • j.mblaq

          I just use Entermaid

          • Ithsme

            The popular fan theories:
            ROWLET 3:
            Archoot
            Archowl
            Robinhoot
            LITTEN 3:
            Beltigre
            Heatigre
            Litigre
            POPPLIO 3:
            Entermaid
            Sirene
            ——–
            Sirenade is new to me.

          • Exeledus

            Its the best! Add it to the list!

  • Shady

    Tapus represent some kind of animal Bull,bird, and dolphin but wat the pink one resemble …Squid?

    • Exeledus

      Its a kid, now its a squid.

      • Shady

        Wat did u mean by it’s a kid?

        • Ben Rhodes

          Splatoon

    • Cosimo

      I’d say the pink one is some kind of squid

  • UnburdenedLegume

    YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA LOCKSTIN UPLOADED PART 3.5!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_KQESrVLyg

    • Exeledus

      He better hurry, he doesnt have much time left before the games are released.

      • UnburdenedLegume

        He already said that part 4 will come out after Sun and Moon’s release

        • Exeledus

          Ah i didnt know that. Then we can look back on his work.

      • Ithsme

        Is he giving us ANOTHER PART!?! :O

        • UnburdenedLegume

          Two more! 3.8 comes out soon apparently

  • Leo
  • Ithsme

    Can someone link me to a place where I can get the images on the new pokemon individually please?

    • Fairy
      • Ithsme

        Thanks!

        • Fairy

          Ya welcome :p

          I do think it’s missing a couple models but that might be my phone refusing to load them 😡

  • Fairy

    Am I the only one who feels they ruined Flint? So much potential husbando material but they went and ruined it with the Ronald McDonald hair

    • Serenotic

      Yeah… Grimsley is my favorite. Reasons. Lol

  • Shady

    I am kinda 90% sure these UBs have a triple type.

  • EarthenWarrior

    ALRIGHT WHERE IS THAT BUTTHOLE
    He was here and now he’s gone!

    • Pokemania88

      Who? Sir menacing?

      • EarthenWarrior

        that Pupa

        • Pokemania88

          I’m pretty sure he left cuz spoilers and stuff

          • EarthenWarrior

            Grrrrrrr that SOB

    • Exeledus

      Um… You alright?

      • EarthenWarrior

        *cracks every bone crackable*
        He’d he go

  • Ben Rhodes

    Been doing some research. According to an Online Moari Dictionary, Tapu means Sacred, and under atua protection. And Koko means wind. So Tapu Koko is Sacred Wind. From this we can determine the other 3’s names. Despite their typing, I think they might be basedo n the 4 elements.
    Tapu Koko is Air.
    So Tapu Koko – Sacred Wind (Electric/Fairy) Looks like a Bird when closed.
    Au means Earth and Whenua means Ground,
    So, Tapu Au or Tapu Whenua (Psychic/Fairy) The one that Resembles the Squid thing.
    Ahi means Fire, as does Kanaku,
    So, either Tapu Ahi or Tapu Kanaku (Fire/Fairy) the one that resembles the Bull.
    Kātao means water.
    So, Tapu Katao (Ghost/Fairy), The Dolphin one.
    Or of course I could be totally wrong but it’s fun to speculate.
    http://maoridictionary.co.nz/
    I know it’s not Based on Maori, but it’s close.

    • Ithsme

      Koko is actually “cockadoodle”, because it’s a chicken.
      The other ones could be animal sounds too, like chirp for the squid, or bark for the dolphin.

  • joker901

    Thinking about coverage moves for the starters, this is what they MAY learn imo:

    Rowlet3:
    Razor Leaf
    Bullet seed
    Brave Bird
    Tailwind
    Leaf Storm
    Leaf Blade
    Solar Blade
    Acrobatics
    Roost
    Whirlwind
    Air slash
    Agility
    Quick guard
    Hurricane (?)
    Steel Wing
    Focus Laser (or anyway the new move is called)

    Litter3
    Night slash
    Flare Blitz
    Fire/Thunder puch
    Bulk up
    Flamethrower
    Sky uppercut
    Blaze kick
    PU Punch
    Hone claws
    Brick Break
    Low sweep
    Shadow claw
    Stone Edge
    Poison Jab
    Knock off
    New move that prevent sound moves.

    Popplio3
    Surf
    Hydro Pump
    Scald
    Moon Blast
    Draining Kiss
    Ice Beam
    Recover
    Reflect
    Light Screen
    Safeguard
    Aromatherapy
    Hyper Voice
    Psychic (?)
    Heal Bell
    Follow me
    Moonlight
    Sweet kiss
    Charm
    Calm Mind
    Wish
    Aqua ring
    Attrac
    Grass knot
    Dragon Tail
    New move that halves att and sp. att for 5 turns.

    • Exeledus

      I think Sirenade is going to be used in the meta if it ends up part fairy, game explain noticed its stats leaning toward defenses. (though popplio was low level so thats up in the air) and could you imagine if light clay extends Aurora Veil like it does reflect/lightscreen.

      • Ithsme

        It seems to favor Def and SpDef which seems promising.

        I swear I’m going to find a competitive niche for Rowlet 3 even if it takes me all gen.

        • Serenotic

          I’m hoping Litten3 has some end game uses. :3

        • Exeledus

          I hope rowlet3 gets sniper. With focus laser, that will certainly punch holes in walls.

          • TCRowlet

            Oh God please no! xD

        • TCRowlet

          I really hope Rowlet3 gets a decent HA. If it gets something like Sniper, based on the exclusive move it seems to get, I’m going to be really disappointed.

          • Exeledus

            Why? That will make any of its moves do 3x damage in exchange for 1 turn set up. Technically, if it faints or switches out, thats stronger than Swords dance or nasty plot.

          • TCRowlet

            Maybe paired with Focus Energy, but the new move seems to only work for the next move used. It’s easy to work around.

          • joker901

            “For the next move used” like it has all that time time…Ice Shard and Gale wings say hi.

          • TCRowlet

            Plenty of OU Pokemon with 4x weaknesses. And you have the rest of your team to build around these weaknesses. It’s not just this Pokemon vs the rest…

          • joker901

            I know but a pokemon with a x4 weakness may not be used in term of turns.. It’s a sweeper or a great wall like Aggron or Ferrothorn. I don’t see Rowlet3 being a wall and what’s the point of using a two turn moves if the target switchs to Abomasnow after you use it?

          • TCRowlet

            Rowlet3 is clearly going to be the Greninja of this Gen. Maybe not as good due to Protean, but it’ll be fast with good attack. And the point of this move is not to wall something, it can scare something out because of what can come next. 4x weakness is not how you judge a Pokemon, it’s their stats and abilities that determine how good they end up being.

          • joker901

            It will not be the greninja, Infernape at best. It has high hp and it’s slower then litten at the moment so do not expect more then 100 speed. Weavile is still out there.

          • TCRowlet

            Speculation still, but Rowlet3 based on final designs should end up being the fastest starter of this trio. Oh boy, Weavile is out there, surely my entire team of Rowlet3 is shaking scared and I won’t be using any other Pokemon to counter threats xD

          • joker901

            I’m not saying it will not be useful, I’m just saying that imo it will not be that useful, It will ends up like MSceptile, which may be really useful sometimes but it’s not a wall and it’s not a great sweeper either imo. That’s all.

          • TCRowlet

            All still speculative, until we see its HA and BST, we just don’t know. And you remind me..

          • joker901

            Speculating is what we always and only can do but thanks for reminding…

          • TCRowlet

            I meant you remind me of someone, sorry xD

          • Exeledus

            Predict the switch. You assume a reactionary battle style. Truth is, we can play “what if” all day long. But we wont know until the games come out and we test it. This is all speculation.

          • Exeledus

            Which in turn can also force switches if used on pokemon they dont want to lose, or wall breaking as critical hits ignore boosts to def/sp.def. i think it’d be awesome.

          • TCRowlet

            True! I guess I’d have to see it in practice.

      • EarthenWarrior

        i swear it better not be fairy

        • Exeledus

          It looks the part, but i’d settle for psychic.

          • joker901

            Psychic is unfair, is not a physical power they could gain. Popplio and Brionne descriptions have nothing to do with psychic power (think of Fennekin and Braixen who had psychic power since beginning)

          • Serenotic

            But, that then begs the question: What makes a fairy a fairy?

          • Exeledus

            Apparently beimg cutesy and girly. Which is annoying.

          • joker901

            Usually femiminine and cuteness and something relating to the moon, like brionne dancing under the moon, and mythical reference like a mermaid 🙂

          • EarthenWarrior

            only ONE fairy type is related to the moon and the stupid thing was Normal before this bane

          • Exeledus

            Yeah, now that you mention it, cresselia seems like fairy type #1 if this were true.

          • EarthenWarrior

            well it freaking ain’t nor WILL EVER BE

          • joker901

            I’m not sayng those are rules, just something that can suggest fairy

      • joker901

        I see Poppulosity to be competitive useful. It seems like it has high hp/def/sp.def so it can be a great wall using Water/Fairy. For rowlet it seems unlikly it have more then 100 speed and this is deadful for its x4 weakness to ice and Talonflame being out there with Fire and Flying priority stabs. While Tony has may have a good coverage and good speed too. I hope it will not get shitty defense cause its speed will go down 100 for sure (and its design is meh) so there may be better options out there.

    • Shady

      If u mean Throat Chop …..it’s an ability not a move.

      • Exeledus

        Its an attack not an ability. Its exclusive to it like water shuriken is greninja. At least from what the dataminers found that i read.

        • Shady

          Let me check this.

        • Shady

          Yeah I thought Psychic Terrein was an ability, sorry for that.

  • Shady

    Masuda interview ……just gusse wat is the first question ……………………Is Yungoos/Gumshoos modeled after Donald Trump? http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2016/10/19/burning-questions-for-pokemon-sun-and-moon.aspx

  • Green
    • UnburdenedLegume

      Already posted by me xd

  • Wes

    Aw, Phoebe’s so far behind. 🙁
    On a side note, I really hope she makes an appearance in Alola.

  • UnburdenedLegume

    OMG LOCKSTIN IS MAKING A PART 3.8!!

    • thegreatcarbinkle

      OMG DID HE FOUND SOMETHING NEW

    • Your Landlord

      needs more $$$

  • thegreatcarbinkle
  • Strawberry_Pocky_Moose

    Guys, in the demo, how do you get it to turn from day to night? I’ve heard people say it’s really pretty at night and the music changes, but it’s almost 11pm here and my demo shows bright sunshine :/

    • joker901

      Just watch the video of the demo on the rotom dex

      • Strawberry_Pocky_Moose

        Ok, I did that. It reloaded, still bright sunshine.

        • joker901

          watch it twice, I read it somewhere…

          • Strawberry_Pocky_Moose

            That’s the second time I’ve watched it, so that doesn’t work 😛 but thanks anyway for trying to help!

    • TCRowlet

      I got it to be night time by just starting up the demo earlier this afternoon. I’m guessing it’s random.

      • Strawberry_Pocky_Moose

        Huh, that seems weird. I guess I’ll just have to try it at different times of the day :/

    • Wes

      Have you gone to the 3DS menu lately? I was having that problem, but it caught up to my time when I closed and restarted the game.

    • MewMew

      Wish I knew a for sure way to help you out, I think it might be pretty random tbh when I turned it on this morning it was night time but it was also night time yesterday afternoon

    • TCRowlet

      Maybe the demo is like Pokemon Moon, where the clock is shifted 12 hours ahead?

    • r1907

      Just in the start screen press the UP botton on the dpad and START and it will play the demo at night

  • MewMew

    Can’t stop playing in the demo, I really enjoy the pokeride feature. Running around with Tauros is a lot of fun! the graphics are also really beautiful 🙂

  • Ultron

    So I’m thinking that spider has to be a dark type otherwise there

    • Ultron

      oops, I didn’t mean to post that but what I as going to say is that there don’t appear to really be any dark types if this is the full dex.

      • Fairy

        Liften brah

        • Your Landlord

          *good dark pokemon

          • Fairy

            At least it has a personality unlike the literally a cat with stripes first stage :p

        • Ultron

          Well, although it seems likely, that’d still be only one…

          • Fairy

            I feel there’s a chance that toucan is untrustworthy. Look at its eyes and tell me it isn’t shifty :p

          • Ultron

            Another dark/flying type would be cool, although Honchy still has my love.

          • Fairy

            Honchkrow is amazing, I honestly admire how perfect they made it as a Evolution to Murkrow whilst retaining a sense of ‘newness’

          • Ultron

            It’s just so amazing 🙂 Sucker punch death

    • thegreatcarbinkle

      what if the spider is not even a bug type. boom

      • Chaos

        It’s obviously Dark/Water….with Protean

        Wait a second…

        • thegreatcarbinkle

          spider about to change the metagame

      • Ultron

        I still want dark/electric. I love that typing and it’d be perfect for my team.

    • Haxford

      I’ve read somewhere that it’s Bug/Ice, can’t find the source anymore though

      • Your Landlord

        I don’t think the datamine released types. We’ll just have to wait till release.

  • TCRowlet

    @exeledus:disqus I just thought, imagine Rowlet3 gets Leaf Blade? That would be really cool with Sniper xD

    • Chaos

      Sniper while fitting flavour wise, is vey situational.
      Unless the effect of Laser Focus (or whatever it’s called) last until you switch out….which is OP as hell

      It may get something like Chlorophyll (which has been done with Venusaur before). Gale Wings is probably wishful thinking. Here’s hoping it’s not Keen Eye …. trollfreak incoming.

      • Exeledus

        Keen eye just…. Dont. No. Gale wings would rock.

      • TCRowlet

        I think Laser Focus only works on the next move used, which is a bit of a bummer. And Gale Wings I agree is a pipe dream. Personally, I’d hope it gets a new unique Ability, like the Gen 6 starters got

        • Monkeyfuzz

          If it worked on every move after 1 use it would be ridiculously overpowered.

          • TCRowlet

            Sorta like a buffed Focus Energy! xD Tbh, I feel Aurora Veil is ridiculously overpowered.

          • Monkeyfuzz

            If it is also affected by Light Clay then definitely. Even if it isn’t it is pretty OP. I think it will have very limited distribution.

          • TCRowlet

            It instantly shoots Popplio3 (Assuming these moves actually are for the starters) up on the competitive chart. Now this is probably a stupid question, but does it affect just one side of the field like Reflect and Light Screen, or is it like a Veil that covers the entire battle field that reduces everyone’s attacks?

          • Chaos

            we don’t know if the effect lasts even when the Pokemon is switched out like the screens do. Maybe it only lasts 5 turns as long as the Pokemon that uses it stays in.

            Unless I’ve missed something, in which case I accept my mistake.

          • TCRowlet

            Yeah, on paper it seems OP, but until we know the ins and outs, it’s tough to get a feel.

          • Exeledus

            That would be pointless. Everyones stats being halved would essetially make the matchups unchanged.

          • TCRowlet

            True, true.

          • Exeledus

            In hindsight i sounded snappy there. If i offended you, i apologize.

          • TCRowlet

            No worries! 🙂

          • Chaos

            Except everything would be bulky as hell and things can still set up more easily.

          • Monkeyfuzz

            Not stupid at all, I think just one side. If it is for Popplio3 it has that and the probable Water/Fairy typing.

          • Exeledus

            And the stats leaning toward defenses. I may replace milotic on my main team when i get back into competetive.

          • Monkeyfuzz

            Seems likely, I also think it will have good HP and useable Special Attack. probably will use Scald too.

          • Exeledus

            Thaaaaaaats the plan.

          • Fairy

            There’s a new defensive ugly duckling situation water-type which has emphasis on singing in town :p

          • TCRowlet

            It sounds so broken xD If we assume also that it lasts even if Popplio3 switches out, then I’d prefer it lasts 3 turns.

          • Monkeyfuzz

            It would mean people would use more Infiltrators, Sound based moves and Brick Break, assuming they work like the screens with those. Of course until we see full details it’s difficult to know. Chesnaught got probably the best Signature Move last gen (Although others now have Spiky Shield) followed by Water Shuriken, though with that becoming Special it is pretty much on the same level. Mystical Fire was pretty much trash, Delphox needed better. Hopefully they balance them a bit better with these 3.

          • TCRowlet

            Delphox got the short end of the stick last Gen in all regards. And yeah, with the switch to being a Special Move, Water Shuriken is definitely right up there with Spiky Shield. And wait, sound based moves go through screens??

          • Monkeyfuzz

            That might just be Substitute actually…

        • Chaos

          Maybe something that increases the accuracy of projectile moves (but that’s probably a massive can of worms).
          I’d suggest an auto Grassy Terrain ability but it’s not a grounded Pokemon to gain any of the benefits.

    • Exeledus

      Leaf blade would be cool. Power whip would work if you dont mind the accuracy. I kinda hope we get a good special flying type move this gen. Air slash is nice, but something a bit stronger but more basic would be nice.

      • TCRowlet

        We really need a strong physical Flying type move that isn’t Brave Bird. Drill Peck is too niche.

        • Exeledus

          This too. Just a nice solid 75-80 power move with no effect and 100 accuracy

      • Monkeyfuzz

        We have Hurricane, it’s accuracy leaves a lot to be desired but there is the confusion chance.

  • Wes

    I think as of now my team for Moon is going to be Popplio3, Lurantis, Palossand, Minior, the anchor, and the virus spider (unevolved).

    • Your Landlord

      I’d use Minior but it looks like it has no evolution.

      • Ultron

        I just don’t understand how it doesn’t 🙁

        • Your Landlord

          Yeah. I had high hopes for it.

          At least there are a couple other decent rock types.

        • EarthenWarrior

          it sacrificed an evolution to have the Shield’s Down gimmick

          • Your Landlord

            An evo still could have worked out.

          • EarthenWarrior

            no it wouldn’t maybe if it was three colors or no colors at all

          • Your Landlord

            lol Why?

          • EarthenWarrior

            because the whole basis of Minior’s creation is a meteorite with a random core color under its rocky shell
            it just screams standalone

          • Your Landlord

            I don’t see how a colour even relates to not having an evolution but alrighty

          • EarthenWarrior

            just don’t over think these things
            not everything has to evolve or evolve from something
            just how some pokemon are

          • Fairy

            Silvally’s has like 18 colour which is more than Minor’s like 8 times two for an evo

          • EarthenWarrior

            it’s more important

          • Fairy

            Then compare it to the all together fifteen Flabébé, Floette and Florges

          • EarthenWarrior

            that was also its gimmick

          • Fairy

            They could’ve easily made the ‘surprise inside’ gimmick expand to an evo though

          • Ultron

            That’s a shame. Too many non-evolvers in this gen. Don’t like it

      • Wes

        I don’t mind. They’re typically decent enough for the main campaign, which is all I’m worried about for now. I won’t get into competitive until later anyway.

  • Ultron

    Why the hell did I decide to go for sassy for my 5IV shinx?

    • EarthenWarrior

      no speed and more sp. def……..dummy it’s Jolly

      • Ultron

        Good thing I have a 5IV jolly guts shinx in my box…although I wanted a male.

  • Chaos

    Based on preliminary Hakamo-o stats. I’m expecting Kommo-o to go something like this

    100/110/135/90/90/75

    Honestly that doesn’t make it all that great, unless it gets Dragon Dance.
    It may get Slack off to turn it into a decent Physical Wall. Could also be a nice Substitue/Set Up Pokemon. Unfortunately its abilities are sub par. I’m hoping it gets Guts as HA

    • EarthenWarrior

      why would it POSSIBLY get slack off?

      • Serenotic
      • Chaos

        So it can be a good defensive Pokemon.

        • EarthenWarrior

          but it would never slack off, it’s a warrior

          • Chaos

            Contrary to popular belief, Warriors Slack Off as well.

          • EarthenWarrior

            it will never get slack off i can guarantee it

          • Chaos

            It may not, I’m just saying it would be nice. Honestly any recovery move would be great.

            But of course Earthern has to have pure brute force. Honestly I hope it’s a Pokemon that’s hard to kill so you end up hating it.

          • EarthenWarrior

            dude its Dragon/Fighting it has plenty of exploitable weaknesses

          • Chaos

            Somehow you will struggle with it and then come complain about it here. I guarantee it.

          • EarthenWarrior

            depends what team i have, and don’t forget its Pseudo-Legend status those bad boys don’t die easy

          • Fairy

            One of which is Fairy which you probably won’t touch

          • EarthenWarrior

            I do have my Slurpuff and that thing is a nightmare

          • Prince Fae

            its final stage straight up warns the other pokemon in the area that its there so that it only has to face worthy opponents. So Slack off wouldn’t really be that far fetched as a hidden ability, it could get into battle with an opponent and not find it worthy of its full attention

          • EarthenWarrior

            that’s Hakamo-o and what ability Slack off is an attack

          • Prince Fae

            righttt I was thinking of truant, and I thought we were talking about Hakamo-o its final stage? Sorry I don’t really care about it as a pokemon so I didn’t pay attention to its names

          • EarthenWarrior

            well my encyclopedic Pokeknowlege says hakamo-o is the more stubborn of the evolution and would most likely brush off weaker foes

    • Ultron

      It’s destined to have mediocre stats. It’s doomed.

      • Ultron

        Damn, I thought we were talking about Komala for some reason. Komala is doomed.

        • Tev-Da-Trainer

          What a shame it had a really dope ability just wasted potential honestly.

          • Ultron

            Better off not even making it

    • TCRowlet

      It’s funny because it LOOKS fast xD

      • Your Landlord

        With all those scales I’d think not.

        • TCRowlet

          I mean in terms of its more slim design.

      • Chaos

        I’m not getting the fast vibe from it. I’m getting a Metagross/Tyranitar vibe. Slow, but bulky.

        • TCRowlet

          I got a completely different vibe than you guys xD

    • Tev-Da-Trainer

      I agree, I hope it gets a good hidden ability. Soundproof and Bulletproof are too situational to be useful.

  • Fairy

    I’m really hoping all of Minior’s forms have a way to tell which is which when they’re in the PC box since I’m a bit of a perfectionist when it comes to collecting Pokémon but it’s going to irk me if there’s no difference e-e

    Also, am I the only one not bothered by the smaller Dex this time? I could be done with less Kanto but I was honestly expecting it, and the smaller number helps emphasise the new Pokémon, who actually make a contribution to the Dex rather than 72 out of 457

    • Your Landlord

      I’m not bothered. It looks like they went with quality over quantity.

      • Fairy

        I was mostly referring to the regional Dex and not just the new Pokémon, but I do find the ‘quality over quantity’ argument redundant as its literally subjective

    • Ultron

      I’m bothered because
      1) The types aren’t balanced
      2) Hard to make teams with only new ones

      • Fairy

        1) Agreed, Dark still has a chance of being average if the toucan and spider are Dark-Types but Ice just got screwed, I was at least expecting two whole lines like Kalos and Hoenn got.
        2) A bit more subjective since I’m personally not having the issue with Pokémon I like but it’s definitely making it hard for theme/challenge teams using Pokémon only from that Gen

        • Ultron

          If crabrawlers evo isn’t part ice type I’m going to be so fucking mad. I actually really like it and want to use it. In terms for making teams, I’m finding it hard to make one around rowlet while also using ones that I actually like. There are too many good flying types.

          • Ithsme

            Said it many times, just wait, we’ll get more! 😉

          • Ultron

            Idk, man, idk! Even if we do it’s doubtful Komala and Minior will get evos. They would’ve likely appeared next to them even if this is only showing one island.

          • Ithsme

            You’ll see lol. There’s too much evidence IMO

          • Your Landlord

            What’s the evidence?

          • Ithsme

            I really should just type this in notes and copy and paste it everytime somebody asks lol. Here’s just a few pieces of evidence that I can quickly think of:
            1. Gamexplain found multiple new pokemon that weren’t revealed in the first two hours of the game, none of these look early game, plus they said they found more than 1.
            2. The mysterious 6 can’t be totems, because firstly we know of 7 trial captains, so even if they are totems, the list is still incomplete.
            3. We don’t have the strange souvenir/mahalo trail statue pokemon yet
            4. There’s no horsea or charizard in the dex, despite being a pokeride pokemon and on a statue respectively, and both seen in trailers.
            There’s some more I can’t think of.

          • Fairy

            Ehh to get nitpicky, we’ve seen plenty of Pokémon not in the region on decor (Parfum Palace alone has Milotic and Serperior).

            As for Charizard, it could easily just be a Pokémon not native to Alola the ride service decided to draft

          • Ithsme

            Fair, but the parfum palace was supposed to boast rare pokemon not found in Kalos. That was kinda the whole point of it.
            Alola on the other hand, boasts rare native pokemon, so it’d be odd to go to alola and see a pokemon on a statue they dont have. It’s been said they’re very prideful of their natvie pokemon.

          • Fairy

            It wouldn’t stop them also portraying foreign Pokémon though, it’s like being surprised some random white girl in downtown Seattle the has a photo of a panda when it’s obvious she’d have it because she likes the animal, not because the country of origin has any significance to her.

          • Ithsme

            Fine. Take this scenario: A kid new to pokemon buys SM, sees the statue, falls in love with Horsea, and wants to find one. It wouldn’t make sense to have it locked behind a paywall then, they’ve already said they want this to be accesible to new players.

            Either way, it was always a loose connection. Say what you want, I still believe we’ll get more.

          • Fairy

            There’s literally a physical Pikachu in Unova and you can’t catch the thing in the whole of Gen V, even when Unova opens up to old Pokémon in the post games and sequels.

            And who’s to say the same wouldn’t happen if a kid saw Milotic and Serperior in Parfum Palace?

            I do accept the possibility of their being more tbh but the evidence provided just feels so unsure imo

          • Ithsme

            I’m just making use of the info we’ve got. That was a weak point, I’ll admit.

          • joker901

            The missing totem is wishiwashi school form

          • Ithsme

            Again, why doesn’t it have a totem model? It would still have the aura around it, just because it is made up of several fish doesn’t make it exempt.

          • Fairy

            It probably has really good stats for that point in the game so it wouldn’t need an Aura to flair and boost its stats.

            And unlike the other totem Pokémon, it doesn’t need an increase in size as it’s already huge.

            Tbh I feel like they’re just going to make the Totem Wishiwashi permanently Schooling Form

          • OG Bulba

            I’m with you I hope GameFreak has something up their sleeve and give us more I know I’m getting my hopes up but if it’s for more Pokemon I’m ok with cause right now I’m pretty upset because of the pokedex

          • Fairy

            Nah there has to be at least one new Pokémon of each type, even Gen 2 did that and it was also arguably bad at type balancing despite having 100 Pokémon.

          • Ultron

            I like your optimism.

          • Fairy

            I wouldn’t call it optimism, I’d call it ‘let’s pray GameFreak doesn’t fuck this up too’

            Like seriously I love GameFreak but no Megas when it was a mechanic that could be used to actually give attention to old Pokémon and isn’t a give and forget mechanic like Z-Moves which can easily stay and only be touched up once in a while, as well as the fact it had major plot relevancy really annoys me.

            Kinda hoping it’s just become their remake tool tbh

          • Your Landlord

            Yeah, building a team around Rowlet is tough for me but because I like all the grass types.

      • joker901

        You know that Kalos only gave us a ground type (actually just a ground type evolution) not counting Zygarde.

        • Ultron

          Kalos also sucked in balancing types

          • Fairy

            Yeah it’s not really an excuse for Alola, it’s a complaint for both

    • Serenotic

      I just wanted a fabulous Dark type that would bring the meta down to its knees. Sigh lol

    • Ithsme

      You’re definitely not the only one, but unlike many people here, I believe this dex is incomplete and we’re getting more. I’m on the fence about this being intentional.

      • Fairy

        I definitely feel that’s it for old Pokémon to be honest, new Alolan forms and Pokémon are an unlikely maybe imo

        • Ithsme

          Well I’ve got a bunch of reasons. I get that people are starting to accept it, but I refuse to accept that this is it. It’s not just denial either, I mean it started out like that but I’ve found so much evidence I’m 100% convinced.

          • Fairy

            Eh I’d say I wouldn’t be surprised either way.

    • Prince Fae

      I would be more ok with the small dex if they had something to compensate for it like more unique new pokeballs to catch my pokemon in. But I’m not really all that upset because they gave us Morelulls Evo

    • Wes

      You could give each one a nickname to tell you which is which until you have them all, then rename them Minior when you’ve got ’em all.

      • Fairy

        I think I’m just going to name them all after colours in different languages, I actually really like my livedex having nicknames unless they’re traded and either really dumb or really offensive

        The exception being my Scyther, Heroinaddict. Whoever traded it to me over the GTS got a good chuckle out of me.

        • EarthenWarrior

          reminds me of my favorite Wt F*K U Nickname
          http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/853/267/4ba.jpg

          • Fairy

            I hate ‘your mum’ jokes but damn I have to admit I got a decent chuckle out of that one

          • EarthenWarrior

            yo momma joke showdown!!!
            “Yo momma’s sooooo fat, her splash attack does damage”

          • Serenotic

            Yo momma’s so fat, her body slam is a fissure.

          • rhomba

            I’ve seen a picture of a wonder traded duskull named Paul Walker.

        • Wes

          I’m the opposite. I don’t like nicknames at all. I can tolerate names in different languages, but it’s not the species name it bothers me.
          The only nicknamed Pokemon I have are Banette and my first Charizard that’s travelled with me since Leafgreen.

          • EarthenWarrior

            i too hate nicknames…well just the stupid ones
            its beyond annoying to see stupid people nickname Pokemon stupid things, or anime references or stupid anime references

          • Fairy

            I think that tasteful references to things are actually pretty cool nicknames (I did a while Boku no Hero Academia run) but if I saw a random Pikachu called Goku or something I’d literally find the nearest brick and bash their brain in

          • EarthenWarrior

            ….don’t say that name in my presence

          • Fairy

            Overused anime monkey boy or badass superhero school manga/anime?

          • EarthenWarrior

            the second…….Mt lady……….

          • Fairy

            Mt Lady is perf tho

            Like honestly the women is practically my platonic waifu

          • EarthenWarrior

            i like em big….really big

    • joker901

      Personally I would not definy 320 pokemon a small dex. In kalos with only new 70 pokemon (yes I know) findind two new pokemon in a row in the wild was almost impossible

      • Fairy

        It’s smaller than Kalos’, which is where a lot of the complaints I’ve seen is coming from. I quite like it though, makes the game more challenging as GameFreak can control what Pokémon you pick better and adjust the game to it, as well as not making the new Pokémon obscure in their own game

  • The Queen of Peace

    GUYZ my demo doesn’t have a night mode ? It’s 11:25 in my country and it’s still day

    • Natsu

      It does, I think the time is just set 12 hours apart.

      • The Queen of Peace

        So it’s following moons time ?

        • MelloMori

          Nah. It’s just random. Played mine at 7 pm, it was day time. Played it at about 5:30 the next day and it was night.

          • The Queen of Peace

            You think this is the way it will be in the game

          • MelloMori

            Not likely. It’s going to be the 12 hour difference for certain. They just made this random for the sake of players getting the best of both worlds and seeing which version they prefer.

    • Ithsme

      Try reloading the demo, it’s random everytime.

      • The Queen of Peace

        Not working.

    • Wes

      Reload it. I believe it doesn’t reset the time until the game is closed and reopened.

  • Natsu

    That moment Arceus comes down from the heavens with the 8 Ultra Beasts and you realize Arceus ordered the annihilation of humans for mistreating Pokemon for too long. DUN DUN DUN! 😀 JK, but I do think Arceus will play a role or will be referenced in Sun/Moon. Additionally, the answers from the creators revealed that past characters may be coming back in a surprising way.

    • Ultron

      Idk if it’ll appear, but I would definitely expect references…I hope there’s another library. Strange that there’s only one library across 6 regions.

  • Shady

    If look at the face of Morelull ….it will tell u ” I am immune to the poison”.

    • EarthenWarrior

      and it will die to Poison Jab

      • Shady

        U can kill it with weaker move like poison fang ……they should give it an ability make it Immune to poison or any competitive ability.

        • Fairy

          You can tell by its eyes it’s already dead, Poison shouldn’t be effective on it since it can’t kill the killed

          • Shady

            I was implying that.

  • Are the Pretty Wings the only thing in the demo today?

    • Serenotic

      It’s the only thing I have come across today that wasn’t up at the demo’s launch.

    • Shady

      Pretty Wings?

      • Wes

        The man outside the Pokemon Center gives you 10 Pretty Wings. Absolutely useless.
        By the way, I like the new avatar. 🙂

        • Monkeyfuzz

          Never know, they could gain a use, maybe exchanging them for something?

        • Fairy

          That’s not true, they’ll sell for 1000 when you sell them in the full game

          Which all of us will then proceed to waste on hair and clothing XD

          • Monkeyfuzz

            They require special tokens/coins though right?

          • Fairy

            Hopefully they’ll be dual currency or convertable into Festival Coins like Coins in the game corners

            Otherwise I’ll riot if I have to play tons of mini games to look on point

          • Monkeyfuzz

            It will be all the annoying minigames, not even the good ones.

          • Wes

            Nope. Mine will go to Pokeballs. Catching ’em all is my top priority. 😉

  • Natsu

    The last minutes of Lockstin’s newest video feels like I just spoiled the climax of Sun/Moon…

    • OH DANG I DIDNT EVEN KNOW

      • Natsu

        The idea that Lusamine and her minions are Ultra Beasts (Ultra Chimeras in other translations) and want to reset the physical world without the existence of Pokemon is an innovative and great idea. Additionally supporting the claim with the foundation’s hatred for Pokemon battling and hurting Pokemon makes it seem more viable.

        • Fairy

          I dunno, deleting something becuase you love it kinda sounds off.

          Also the fact you can catch them is just honestly disturbing so I’m hoping they’re not humans

          • Natsu

            I thought you can only catch one.

          • Fairy

            It’s not been confirmed the quantity of those Balls you get, there could be seven of them and they automatically catch Ultra Beasts after a story event or something like that

            And even then catching one human or human like being is still all kinds of disturbing

          • Natsu

            So true! I hope they’re not actually humans, but rather come from an alternate dimension and are working alongside the Aether Foundation or its: Aether Foundation VS Ultra Beasts VS Team Skull.

    • Ithsme

      I’m about to watch it, do you think it has so much potentional to be real that I should avoid it? Where should I stop?

      • Natsu

        17:00 – begins to talk about his theory and data-mining

        • Natsu

          Maybe even a little before around 14:00 because he references a past character that is an extremely viable option for working alongside the Aether Foundation. Colress

          • Monkeyfuzz

            They are in a trailer I think.

  • Natsu

    Q: Dexio and Sina are back from X & Y–might we see more returning characters?

    A: So yeah you’ve got Dexio and Sina, as well as professor Oak’s cousin n the game, and I think this being the 20th anniv. Project, I’ve definitely tried to make sure there’s a lot of things–a lot of surprises or fun things in here for fans of each of the different generations.

    • Natsu

      Can’t wait for my Queen Cynthia to return. xD

    • Ithsme

      B L U E

    • Wes

      I’d most like Wally, Phoebe, Barry, Benga, or Blue.

  • r1907

    I don’t know if you know this, but by pressing the UP botton and START at the start screen you can change the demo to night

    • Wes

      THANK YOU!

      • r1907

        Welcome

    • joker901

      You know how to bring sun back? I’m playing at night since yesterday

      • r1907

        Mmm maybe trying the same at the start screen? Or pressing DOWN? I’m just guessing here

      • Cosimo

        I played at night last night and I was still Sun and it was still light out

  • Natsu

    Funny how we were just talking about new Poke’balls a few days ago and we get the Ultra Beast Poke’ball! 😀

    • Monkeyfuzz

      Where was that shown?

      • Natsu

        I read on here yesterday.

        • Cosimo

          Where?

  • ShinyXatu

    All of my friends have been obsessing over the demo, and it was cool and all, but to be honest I’m getting extremely hyped for the NX again. People are still claiming that Nintendo will have an event on Friday even though it’s Wednesday afternoon. Keep your eyes peeled everyone.

    • Ithsme

      “People are claiming…”

      Let me stop you right there.

      • ShinyXatu

        I’m just sharing what I’m seeing. These people have remained adamant about this week up until this moment. I’d like to take them seriously for the heck of it.

        • Ithsme

          I’m all for it, but I’d rather not let myself be dissapointed again.

          • ShinyXatu

            I’ve been disappointed so many weeks in a row that I’m numb to the pain.

    • Natsu

      By the time the NX comes out I’ll be on my deathbed.

    • Ultron

      People have been claiming that the NX reveal is “days away” for about a year now

    • Mr. EastGovnah

      its like the dragons from game of thrones now
      “THEY’RE COMING REAL SOON” 2 seasons later
      “THEY”RE STILL COMING” 1 season later etc

      • Ultron

        But the dragons hatch at the end of the first season ;-;

    • Mr. EastGovnah

      ur the PJN version of Obe1 now lol

      • ShinyXatu

        WHAT’S GOING ON DUDES?

  • Shady

    I know these make no sense at these moments but good idea. http://i.4cdn.org/vp/1476906506730.png

    • Ithsme

      I want something torterra-esque that’s a moutainous ice/groun beast like this.

    • Fairy

      I feel like an Alolan Numel would still be Ground-Type seeing as normal Numel is

    • Ultron

      Better than most of the alolans we actually got…

  • Fairy

    Some people thought the datamine and lack of NX were the real disappointments but real talk:

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b36e5d98fa8489f91d7ba4a751ad6d8409a7e280553b6fda7d4664b644f64e8c.jpg

    • Leo

      hmmm

      • Fairy

        It’s literally a song about dogs

        • Leo

          I thought you were talking about the first who. But the who who don’t sound like woof and this is coming from a non-native English speaker + the dogs are actually ugly women haah

          • Fairy

            When it’s being sang at a rapid pace, said loudly and as individual words and not a repeating sentence in a music video it gets hard to tell the difference

  • Wes

    I’ve found something I dislike about the demo. At night, the guy who walks along the sidewalk seems to have a faint aura around him. I don’t know if there’s any way that could’ve been bypassed, but now that I’ve seen it I can’t unsee it.

    • Fairy

      He is the chosen one

      • Mr. EastGovnah

        *was

      • Wes

        I’m supposed to be the chosen one! This is my story not Random Sidewalk Dude’s story!

    • Wes

      I’ve just realised everyone has auras. Dang it.

      • Fairy

        Plot twist

        Everyone is secretly from RWBY

  • Shady

    I wonder y no gender difference form in this gen ?……….at least Salandit should have one.

  • I’m just saying I totally called the whole Ultra Beasts are from a place where pokemon and people are the same thing

    • Fairy

      Where was that confirmed? Becuase of its actual confirmed the things getting released because that’s just Unsettling if we can catch them

      • I’m just bouncing off from the new Lockstin video

        • Fairy

          Tbh I feel like people reeaaaally need to take more salt grains with him

    • Leo

      I think a lot of people did lol

      • TheReece25

        which is why i find it so f’ing annoying and creepy to catch them. . . their too lifelike!

  • Wes

    What are your thoughts on the Mysterious Old Man? After roughly five visits he doesn’t say anything new, but the game still saves. What’s his deal? Besides, introducing yourself as the Mysterious Old Man is somewhat unnerving.

    • Ithsme

      A spoiler-free way to give you items?

    • Fairy

      HE LITERALLY FLASHES YOU WITH HIS SCALP

      I’M SO CONCERNED

  • Leo

    People are still playing the demo? What do you guys find that is so fun to do there. Pls tell me

    • Ithsme

      I’m listening to the music mostly.

      • Wes

        Same.

        • Ithsme

          My favorite is the Ten Carat hill or maybe the night Hau’oli theme

          • Wes

            Mine are Mahalo Trail and the maladada shop music.

          • Ithsme

            Yeah I’ve heard people talk up Mahalo trail but I just can’t get into it.

          • Wes

            I also really like the Ferry Terminal and Pokemon Center themes. I just can’t pick a favorite!

      • Leo

        I think I’m the only one here who doesn’t care at all about the music in any of the games

        • Ithsme

          Probably tbh, music is a HUGE part of the game for me.

  • Ithsme
    • Ultron

      Your second team has better coverage

      • Fairy

        Ehh I don’t think you need to worry about coverage in the main game, it’s mostly just for fun

        • Ultron

          Coverage is everything! ^’-‘^

      • Ithsme

        Yeah, I’m just using my favorites though. I have three birds, but it doesn’t matter at all IMO. xD

        • Ultron

          -OCD triggered-

    • Wes

      That’s a really good idea. I think I’ll do that when I’ve got computer access. Where did you get the models from?

      • Ithsme

        https://sli.mg/a/4HOcnq
        And I just got the SM logos from google images.

      • Ithsme

        Also I wanna see it when you finish! ^.^

        • Wes

          I’ll probably post it on the forums. I’ve got a teams thread over there that I need to edit anyway.

          • Ithsme

            Oh, I should post it there, that’s a good idea!

    • Fairy
      • Ithsme

        Nice choice of salandit and oricorio! 😛

        • Fairy

          They offer really nice type coverage and fit into my team’s theme so they’re arceussends for me :p

      • Prince Fae

        Beauty and Grace ~~~

        • Fairy

          And Bewear XD

          • Prince Fae

            Bewear of its beauty and grace ~~~ lol

          • Fairy

            The design is pretty simple, but that bearness of the design really compliments it :p

      • Fairy

        I’ve also got a preliminary Sun based team based on masculinity

        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c46031d44e57abbe5c3cbb6c81f3b8942cc654a9900476da90cde258cd64a2ef.jpg

        Lurantis is there for the origins of pink in fashion as well as looking quite the gentleman with those striped pants

        • Ithsme

          Cool!

        • Ithsme

          Maybe Alolan Golem? It has the facial hair stuff

          • Fairy

            Nah, I’m not really a fan and I’m already too busy trying not to force a Fairy in there :p

          • FleurNyaa

            We essentially picked the same team! With the exception of Bewear who I am using Mismagius instead. : D

          • Fairy

            Man, I’m really sad that there’s so much great new Pokémon since there’s tons of great old Pokémon I’d love to try out

            But you know what they say, great minds think alike :p

          • FleurNyaa

            I wanted Persian so bad as I thought it would be a snobby tiara wearing luxe cat. So the dream of a mainly fashionable feline princess dream died just a little.

          • Fairy

            I do kinda like Alolan Persian because it resembles a persian more and the head itself isn’t that bad but it’s just the body

            Like either keep it elegant and fabulous (the body) or make it a full out Persian (body) ;-;

          • FleurNyaa

            It still has the smooth streamlined body albeit its tail does look fluffier but then its head is not so streamlined.

          • Fairy

            Yeah the discord in body and head is really holding it back from looking like a cute little derp Persian instead of a joke blue Garfield

          • FleurNyaa

            My whole team is like runway and then alolan persian is that one best friend that tags along.

            http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Pocahontas-Sees-a-Cute-Native-American-In-Didney-Worl-Movie_408x408.jpg

          • Fairy

            Hopefully it’s one of those designs that is easy to warm up to, sassy Meowth had me so excited ;-;

          • Prince Fae

            yeah it would be fine if its body was bigger, but the big head on a small body is just strange

        • Serenotic

          Have you seen shiny Lurantis!? <3

        • I CAN JUST SMELL THE TESTOSTERONE!!!!!!!!

      • tevvy

        Switch oricorio out for shiny ribombee and we have the same team! Haha

    • TheHipsterRowlet
    • Drew Genel
  • Green

    So… there’s still a POSSIBILITY that there are more Pokemon, yes?

    • Ithsme

      You bet there is!

      • Green

        Good. I want my vomit pickle thing and Komala evo

        • Green

          By vomit pickle, I mean Sea Cucumber that’s been pickled in vomit.

        • Ithsme

          Yeah, I’m sure there is. I’m almost convinced at this point that the leaks were intentional on GF’s part.

          • Wes

            I’m not completely sold on that, but I surely hope there’s more. I want more Ghosts and aquatic creatures.

          • Prince Fae

            ALL THE GHOSTS!!!

          • Ithsme

            I’m just trying to express how sure I am we’re getting more.

            But you gotta admit it’s odd.

  • AverageGamers

    This one’s easy too… Lance obviously wins at all accounts. I suspect it’s going to be by a landslide… *checks the result* Yep.

  • Green

    So Crabrawler evolves into the Yeti Crab, right? That means in Ice/Fighting type! 😀

    • Ultron

      Wouldn’t be the first time GF flubbed a typing though..

    • Ithsme

      Yeah, it’s pretty cool IMO but I can’t wait to see the other ice types.

    • Ithsme

      I love it’s shiny so much. Red + pink looks great on it, I’m definitely getting one.

    • Fairy

      We all need Ribombee in our lives e-e

      Awesome drawing!

      • Thank you! Still wish it had one more stage though

        • Fairy

          If it turns out GameFreak his some Pokémon from the demo and a Ribombee evo wasn’t one of them I’d actually die ;-;

          There’s always hope for cross gen evos though ^^

          • Ithsme

            Ribombee looks complete IMO, but we need to save Komala! O_O Just give me one more pokemon, komala’s evo, and I’ll stop denying that there isn’t more lol.

          • Fairy

            I dunno, Ribombee gives me Kirlia and Floette feels. It just feels like a transition, it removes some of Cutiefly’s features (which would make sense if it’s a transition stage) and only gains a scarf in return.

          • Ithsme

            Well, I’m all for an evolution, but if we only get a few new pokemon, komala is priority.

          • Prince Fae

            I hope Popplio3 does become a fairy so we can have at least one 3 stage fairy

          • Fairy

            It’s too fabulous not to be :p

          • Ithsme

            “At least one 3 stage fairy…”

            And here I am hoping we get more than 1 ice type, it’s not even a primary type lol.

          • Prince Fae

            they don’t have to be mutually exclusive

          • Ithsme

            Hm?

          • FleurNyaa

            I want a grass/fairy based on a hibiscus almost like an alolan cherrim. I absolutely adore how it.

          • Prince Fae

            like getting a ribombee evo doesn’t have to take away from getting another ice type or a komala evo, they don’t have any effect on each other is all I’m saying, but you are correct more ice is needed

          • Ithsme

            That’s not what I’m saying, I just think it’s ironic how fairy fans are wanting a 3 stage and ice fans just want fair treatment lol.
            Either way, there may be both with the other new pokemon.

          • Prince Fae

            Hey I’m happy with what I got for fairies, I’m not complaining. I sympathize with the ice and dark fans that got ripped this gen

          • Ithsme

            Oh yeah, this is nothing against you, I’m just making a joke.

          • Rockcrawdaunt

            I want ice. Please, give me a theee stage, actually, anything.

    • Prince Fae

      Superb!

    • TheHipsterRowlet

      One of the best shinies this Gen! Might be my first shiny hunt in Moon 🙂 Lovely drawing! 😀

    • EarthenWarrior

      KILL IT WITH FIRE

        • EarthenWarrior
          • You could probably destroy it but the lag is really bad and Excadrill keeps glitching back

          • EarthenWarrior
          • Ithsme

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          • Excadrill:

          • EarthenWarrior

            the damn thing doesn’t have a stinger

          • Fairy

            The real stinger is friendship all along

          • EarthenWarrior

        • Ithsme

          Still my favorite new pokemon gif! xD

    • Shady

      I like ur signature ……Its mouth should looks more like a peak if u know wat I mean but good job.

  • FleurNyaa

    Has anyone else noticed that there are like four-five pseudo-legendary lines available? I was thinking about it and it seems rather scary.

  • Ithsme

    Something I just read on reddit that I hadn’t noticed before: Ash-greninja’s model is nowhere to be found in the datamine. This means that its model is stored somewhere else, even furthering my claim of new pokemon. We now know for certain of this possibility, as there may be other stuff stored with the model of Ash-Greninja. And before you go saying these are pokedex stills, yes, they are, but Mimikyu’s and Wishiwashi’s form changes were in the stills, so ash greninja should have been somewhere in there, though it’s not. IMO this is the nail in the coffin, as if I wasn’t convinced enough before.

    • Ithsme

      Minor text fixes

    • zess

      Hope renewed!😃

      • Ithsme

        I feel like I get new evidence every few hours or so lol. I’m going to compile a definitive list of all the evidence I find now.

      • Shady

        There is no hope no light there only despair.

        • Ithsme

          Sounds like a fun world you live in there . . .

          • Shady

            Let take it serious ….I think if we have any hope it will for more alolan form
            ppl want more quantity of pkmn but most of them have more than 2 team ….for me I have 14 pkmn want them to be in my team ….more pkmn make it more difficult …..I think we have good amount of new pkmn but if u ask me I want more than 1 million pkmn.

          • Ithsme

            I’m going to continue to have hope, this isn’t all, I just know it!

    • Ultron

      Yay for hope

      • Ithsme

        THERE IS S O M U C H H O P E !

  • zess

    Ohh friendly Demo reminder! Don’t forget to talk to the guy near the Pokecenter today!

  • ShinyXatu

    OH MY GOD DAMN JIMINY CHRISTMAS HOLY MOLY
    MOM GET THE CAMERA
    https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/788900063833493504

  • Wes

    Hey, Ithsme, I sent you a private message on the forums that you should probably check out when you get the chance! 🙂

    • Ithsme

      I’ll check now!

    • Ithsme

      It won’t let me edit the post, any ideas?

  • ShinyXatu

    I feel as though I’ve finally ascended to a higher plane of reality. The wait for the NX has kept me shackled, but now I am free. I love you all.
    http://img.pandawhale.com/159641-Oogway-my-time-has-come-gif-Im-k0FQ.gif

    • EarthenWarrior

      HUG ME KEVIN!!!!!!

    • The Queen of Peace

      If they made a Pokemon based on this guy I’d love it so so much. Psychic type tortoise with a staff and derpy face… surrounded by psychic magical leaf petals which are a disguise for it to slay you.

    • TheSunnyMonster6893

      I might actually die tomorrow if they don’t show anything…….You’ll all be having a wake and funeral on Friday/Saturday lol

      • ShinyXatu

        It will probably be the concept reveal but we’ll definitely get the name, features, design, and everything else that’s important. Those investors will be very happy.

        • Ithsme

          I WANT TO SEE FOOTAGE

          • TheSunnyMonster6893

            I’d say if we do get footage it’ll be of Zelda before anything else

    • Deerlia

      DON’T DIE WE LOVE YOU!

  • What I think the NX will look like

    http://imgur.com/a/F7XH3

  • Ithsme

    So the NX wasn’t a physchological experiment after all…
    lol

  • ShinyXatu

    We need a new article PJ. I want to post more hype gifs and music.

  • EarthenWarrior

    alright taking all bets
    i’m betting a temporal paradox ruptures space-time so that tomorrow never comes

  • TheSunnyMonster6893

    I honestly don’t think I would be this excited for the NX if it wasn’t for the fact that they’ve basically been dangling it in front of us all this time lol

    • ShinyXatu

      It has been 19 months.
      Nineteen months.

      • TheSunnyMonster6893

        It’s been slowly digging at me and now that they finally acknowledge it’s existence I NEED IT!!!! lol

        • ShinyXatu

          I’ve been a bit apprehensive about playing games for quite a long time now, but I think the NX will completely refresh my interest in games. Tomorrow is something I’ve been waiting for.

    • Serenotic

      I’m not allowing myself to get hyped over it. *Willpower*

      • TheSunnyMonster6893

        Probably a smart move lol

        • Serenotic

          lol I’ve been disappointed before by Nintendo consoles >.> lol

          • TheSunnyMonster6893

            Hmmmm……was it the Wii U? (that’s a rhetorical question of course it was the Wii U lol)

          • Serenotic

            No it was the Wii. I love the Wii U( just wish it had better games especially ones that don’t require those awful nunchuck Wii remotes… still salty about the latest Mario party’s lack of gamepro controller support. Lol)

          • Prince Fae

            The wii u was amazing, they just didn’t market it enough

      • Ithsme

        I’m letting the hype flood at this point, the dam has broken and there’s no stopping it at this point.

  • What if Greninja was Ash’s father

    • Ithsme

      What if you just posted a bad theory

      • think about it
        ash had a bond with him
        like a fatherly bond
        im not turning stupid from NX hype

        • Ithsme

          Pokemon can’t breed with humans.

          At least I’d assume/hope so.

          • Serenotic

            This conversation got Dark really quickly… lol

          • Ithsme

            I tell it like it is.
            Most of the time at least.

          • Serenotic

            Shudder Jynx adult toys 🙈

          • ….has anyone tried?

            ill stop

          • TheSunnyMonster6893

            Evolution finds a way my friend lol

    • EarthenWarrior

      ………well i can’t get that image out of my head……should i be concerned i thought of something unspeakable under 3 seconds

  • ShinyXatu

    I found this on 4chan, I don’t know where it came from. Looks like a screenshot from the trailer.
    https://i.4cdn.org/v/1476925030467.png

    • Ithsme

      That reminds me of something, can’t remember what lol.

      • EarthenWarrior

        Augmented Reality?

  • Your Landlord

    I’m not getting the NX for a while so I don’t care that much for it.

    • TheSunnyMonster6893

      How would you define a while? It’s not coming until March-ish of next year so that’s a while right? hahaha

      • Your Landlord

        It’ll probably be a couple years when it has a good lineup and I have a decent amount of $$$

        • TheSunnyMonster6893

          That’s fair lol

        • EarthenWarrior

          not me, gonna pre-order day one
          i have money
          i made 120$ today
          134$ in my change jar
          80$ in tips
          250$ saved for a rainy day
          and some birthday cards in the mail

  • The Queen of Peace

    So I need help with my teams yall

    SUN:
    Robinshoot
    Mudsdale
    Tsareena ( really can’t decide if this should be swapped with lurantis below)
    Sea Urchin 2
    Mimikyu
    Kommo-o

    MOON:
    Mermaid Popplio
    Alolan Ninetails
    Farmer Morelull
    Lurantis
    Salandit 2

    Last spot is between Minior, Midnight Lycanroc and Oranguru. My Sun team is Pokemon which I like that remind me of the sun, moon ones which remind me of the moon and night.

    • Ultron

      Midnight Lycanroc if you’re going for a moon theme 🙂

  • Shady

    I hate Tony the tiger meme from the bottom of my dark heart ……but somebody made Healthy Breakfast Team. http://i.4cdn.org/vp/1476853969747.jpg

    • ShinyXatu

      No way. That’s amazing!

    • Serenotic

      Lol!

    • Ithsme

      I’ve also seen Fomantis used to represent the lucky charms guy.

      • Shady

        Wat the link between them?

        • Ithsme

          Green small things? idk lol

    • TheSunnyMonster6893

      This has all be one giant conspiracy. Now all we need is a lucky Charms and Cocopuffs Pokemon lol

      • Ithsme

        Tapu Kookoo for coco puffs

        • TheSunnyMonster6893

          SEEEEEEE? It’s all coming together!!! (Oh hey look what I did there lol)

    • The Queen of Peace

      The anchor Pokemon is like cryogonal. I’ll never understand it

      • Pharap

        I slightly prefer the anchor to the snowflake.

    • thegreatcarbinkle

      @Ultron6:disqus so the wood part that I saw was the wheel

      • Ultron

        I was right!

      • Shady

        Did u mean anchor?

    • Mmm Cookie Crisps

    • Nintendalek42

      Toucan needs to be shiny though, then it looks way closer to fruit loops!

    • Pharap
  • Ithsme

    LAST MINUTE NAME PREDICTIONS!!
    Nintendo NeXt

    • Your Landlord

      the super wii

      • Ithsme

        How about: The New Wii U!

        • Your Landlord

          perfect

        • Serenotic

          Wii U GameCubed?

      • TheSunnyMonster6893

        Super Wii 2. They’re just skipping over the Super Wii lol

    • Ithsme

      I’m almost 100% sure they’re going to drop the Wii branding though.

    • ShinyXatu

      I want Nintendo Atmosphere.

      • Ithsme

        THE GAMESPHERE

    • SpectralSeraph

      If its a handheld
      the WiiDS

    • PenguinBand1t

      DS Advance

  • TheSunnyMonster6893

    Ok Ok people joke, but I swear to god if the name has “Wii” in it at all things will burn…….

    • Ithsme

      They need to drop that branding; the wii u killed it.

      • TheSunnyMonster6893

        The Wii U shouldn’t have even been named “Wii” at all. The branding should have been left at the original. It’s like the freaking “New 3DS” Whomever is naming their consoles need to get a grip……..

    • ShinyXatu

      Wii X!

    • Wii 2

      *Nintendo of Japan catches fire*

    • Prince Fae

      the problem with the Wii name was that idiot parents didn’t understand the difference between the two consoles, the same thing happens with the DS and 3DS.

      • Ithsme

        Hence, drop the branding.

      • TheSunnyMonster6893

        No the problem is that Nintendo is stupid for naming completely different consoles the same name…….

        • Prince Fae

          …. k.
          But seriously I watched it happen for years while working in electronics, way too many parents didn’t listen even when I explained they are not the same and that if they buy their kids the older ones they cant get the newer games, but they did it anyways and their kids were upset.

      • thegreatcarbinkle

        At the same time, It was terrible marketing choice. Is a new product, it should have been a new name, instead what they did was a product adaptation strategy when it should have been a product invention strategy.

    • Mr. EastGovnah

      Poochy and Super Wii X legend editions for NX?

  • Ithsme

    Alright I’ve got exams tomorrow, I likely won’t be here for the hype, but I’ll be here soon after. Gotta study if I’ve got any chance, so I’m jumping ship. See ya!

  • EarthenWarrior

    i’m gonna go early and rouse all the gamer employees to watch it when it goes live

  • Mr. EastGovnah

    Hearing the NX being announced tmmr made my hype go from 0 to Obe1 in 2 seconds

    • ShinyXatu

      I guess today was my lucky day huh?

      • Mr. EastGovnah

        lol you said alot of NX rumors alot but since ur my friend for 3 years ill give it to you

  • Dicie

    GameXplain recently did an interview with the Sun and Moon devs, and there are some interesting tidbits!

    • Mr. EastGovnah

      dicie am i pretty yet?

  • Dicie

    Pastebin dumps from Kaphotics. Let’s see if we can find anything of interest!
    http://pastebin.com/r5KREWe0
    http://pastebin.com/3K64kzfr

    • Shady

      Is this new?

      • Dicie

        It was posted 18 hours ago on Twitter, but I don’t know if it’s been posted here yet.

        • Shady

          Ok then I saw it.

    • Wow unique lines for each move? What a waste of time. Just use variables like

      (Title) (Pokemon) used (Move)

    • SpectralSeraph

      Whoa! A wild [VAR PKNAME(0000)] leaped out of the tall grass!
      Whoa! A wild [VAR PKNAME(0000)] leaped out of the ground!
      Whoa! A wild [VAR PKNAME(0000)] dived out of the sky!
      Whoa! A wild [VAR PKNAME(0000)] swooped down from above!
      Whoa! A wild [VAR PKNAME(0000)] leaped out of the trash can
      This one is pretty cool :3

    • joker901

      Wait, weren’t HMs gone? I can see them listed there after tms

  • thegreatcarbinkle

    If Nintendo does not learn from their marketing mistakes and put a terrible name for the NX im throwing hands

    • Shady

      Actually NX is a nice name …..I will ask them if they can keep it for me.

      • thegreatcarbinkle

        NX is a good name imo. It has that N that symbolizes the Nintendo franchise and the X with give the idea of generation aka the new generation of nintendo

        • Shady

          yeah I know that.

  • libra

    IT’S ABOUT TIME! Finally, we get to see the NX tomorrow. Tomorrow will likely consist of:
    – The NX’s actual name.
    – Breath of the Wild running on the NX.
    – It will be a 3 minute trailer.
    – There will likely be a Direct Next Week.
    What do you all think the NX will be? That hybrid or a handheld and console? Either way I cannot wait to see the NX tomorrow. I’ll be in school and I’m afraid that I will scream! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ae192fad0f1bbceb6b107862d80cf96e7def863badb220a3ff1b82ef8a7d4038.png

    • I think they are going to show some tech demos actually!

  • libra
    • ShinyXatu

      Home gaming system…I guess that’s settled.

    • AHHHHH Im screaming

      Do you guys realize how this will completely change the industry!?

      • libra

        Exactly. The NX is about to be a big deal. Rumours say that it could play games at 1080p 60fps extremely well. Prepare for 60fps Breath of Wild tomorrow!

        • ShinyXatu

          Where is your image from by the way?

          • libra

            Nintendo’s website! I specifically found this on Twitter!

          • ShinyXatu

            I looked on the website and I can’t find a link for the trailer.

    • EarthenWarrior
    • Green
    • Mr. EastGovnah

      so its not a handheld console hybrid?

      • It could still be a hybrid. Maybe it is just mainly a home system

        • Mr. EastGovnah

          thats good! most rumors pointed it to be a mostly handheld that plugs into a port to play on TV

  • ShinyXatu

    I think this image summarizes the night pretty well.
    https://is.4chan.org/v/1476925732469.jpg

    • libra

      beat. Nintendo is about steal all the attention from that game tomorrow. Let’s just hope that Red Dead Redemption 2 is coming to the NX.

    • Mr. EastGovnah

      make spongebob Red dead and squidward Nintendo

      • EarthenWarrior

        • Mr. EastGovnah

          member spingebill that wanted to murder us?

  • anyway idk if anyone pointed this out already but thank god we have legit pokedex sprites, it has always bothered me how pokemon sites crop out the 3D in-game pokedex sprites before~

  • MelloMori

    Alright I’m feeling almost as salty as earthen right now after a bad raid. Don’t suppose anyone has some cute fan art on hand?

    As for who I’d pick among these goofballs, I’d say none of them. Their all pretty forgettable and really not that impressive. But that’s my opinion.

    • EarthenWarrior

      Raid you say, pray tell

      • MelloMori

        FF14 Raid. I haven’t played wow in years, but think traditional raids, but party’s are all pugs. Going by WOW equivalent’s, we had a crappy Deathknight tank who could barely hold aggro over a mage, died several times during the fight, including on the trash phase of a boss, and crappy healers that struggled to keep people up. One major mechanic of the game are limit breaks. Think FF7. Powerful attacks that do different things. Tanks dive a defense buff, healers heal and can mass party rez at max, and dps…Well dps. Basically we had a weaker party of DPS that was struggling to get through the phases, so naturally I popped our lb’s when they were at max since we really needed the dps. In the end we lived at about .1% of the boss’s hp before engage. After that the tank and one of the healers pretty much called me an idiot for using them, since they felt that we should have saved them for the mass rezzes if needed, when I and fortunately another dps openly said we didn’t have the numbers to do without it. Then the healer pretty mcuh called my dps crap because I was being a bit lazy with it, which I was though its kind of hard not to be with the fight, and then we wiped again when the tank proved they were absolute trash.

        So I’m just a little salty that people are saying that they know my class better then I do, when they clearly aren’t paying attention to our dps numbers. That, and we would never need a mass rez of people are doing mechanic correctly, or healers are actually doing their jobs. At least the fight has some rocking music.

        • EarthenWarrior

          i understand everything said

          • MelloMori

            Thanks for letting me vent. I’ve had worse groups over the years, but this one really just struck a nerve with me. Ah well. I”ll just run it this weekend or something. I’ve done the fight plenty of times now and it’ll be easy.

        • That’s some crazy bad PUG raid… 🙁

          In my final raids before I quit, we had competent tanks, competent DPS and competent leader and we still die… 😀

    • If you scroll down a bit I drew a cute Ribombee

    • Green
    • Ithsme

      How about a cutiefly dancing (like starstorm posted earlier)?
      http://67.media.tumblr.com/6f7341b4563a69bada474ee998e97ddf/tumblr_o9pbxi4med1u591fzo1_500.gif

      • Ithsme

        Oh yeah, I did say I was going to study, and I did.
        For all of five minutes before I realized that I’m a huge procrastinater.

      • MelloMori

        This makes me happy. Thank you.

        • Ithsme

          TRIAL COMPLETE

  • Serenotic
  • Mr. EastGovnah

    Im hoping this trailer ends with like announcement of a NX direct to show more into the console and the titles coming with it

    • Ithsme

      I’m hoping for some new titles tomorrow, but that seems unlikely lol.

      • Mr. EastGovnah

        well i mean who knows what could be shown in 3 minutes

        • Ithsme

          What if: SM NX port with even better graphics!

          • Mr. EastGovnah

            nah no ports please thats why the wii u launch wasn’t well.

          • Ithsme

            Alongside a good launch lineup it couldn’t hurt.

          • Mr. EastGovnah

            yea but not sun/moon too soon imo

  • TheReece25

    So… I’ve Never been like this before.. but I Don’t want to see Nun of y’all mf’s using UB Online!
    Plus im likely the only on e who hasn’t played the demo.. can’t figure out how to connect 3DS to TWC wifi outside of home -,-

  • thegreatcarbinkle

    The funniest youtube comment:
    Travis OfBelring – 3 weeks ago –
    Oh wow! Cynthia! She might give me an item!
    Battle starts
    I WASN’T READY NOOOOOOOOO

    • Mr. EastGovnah

      from what video

      • thegreatcarbinkle

        Pokemon BW2 – Champion (Sinnoh)!

  • Mr. EastGovnah

    Im happy this is the end of
    “NX REVEAL NEXT WEEK” “NX REVEAL IN NEXT FEW DAYS” “NX COMING (This date)”

    • Ithsme

      No more annoying comments by ShinyXatu

      jk xD

      • Shady

        Hey u have exam tomorrow …….go to sleep or I used dark void …..oh wait I am not Darkrai any more ,,,ok then u need to study.

        • Ithsme

          I’m sort of passively studying.

      • ShinyXatu

        The sad thing is, I could have been right all of those times. It was a ridiculous time.

        • Ithsme

          And here we are. This better be good lol.

  • TheSunnyMonster6893

    Probably means nothing, but Masuda tweeted out about the NX reveal. I imagine it’s more just the fact that it’ll be the next system Pokemon goes to.

    • Ithsme

      yeah

    • libra

      I’m quite sure that S/M will be the last 3DS Pokemon Game in my opinion.

  • Deerlia

    Go Pheobe~
    For Gradmaaaaa!

  • joker901


    I don’t know why I saw this. But Emboar is for sure the worst starter ever.

    • Monkeyfuzz

      Because Anime Bianca owned it and Anime Bianca is aweful.

      • Shady

        And awful dubbed.

    • Ultron

      I’d say Chesnaught is, followed by emboar, litten 3, and Samurott.

      • Monkeyfuzz
        • Ultron

          Kinda creepy…

          • Monkeyfuzz

            Because it will be Dark type

          • Shady

            Muhahahaha.

          • Ultron

            Well there has to be a first flop for every type eventually 🙂

          • Monkeyfuzz

            I like it, has grown on me…

          • Ultron

            I love Torracat. Maybe the final will grow on me but I still think it had more potential.

        • joker901

          Wow that’s cool…wait, no it’s not. It’s always the same bipedal fire/fighting looking cat

    • thegreatcarbinkle

      Emboar is such a flop

    • Mr. EastGovnah

      I love emboar

      • Prince Fae

        Sammmeee

    • Pharap

      Samurott and Tony are worse.

  • Wes

    I honestly couldn’t be less excited about the NX. But then, I wasn’t excited about the 3DS at all until XY were announced. As soon as it has ties to Pokemon I’ll be interested.

  • thegreatcarbinkle

    Officially less than a month for Pokemon Sun and Moon!

    • Pharap

      Only if you live in America or Japan.

  • Claus H. Luíz

    So did you guys hear about the new Pokéball that was in the leaks?

    • Wes

      I haven’t. What is it?

      • MelloMori

        Short answer: It seems to be a pokeball connected to the UB’s. It also can’t be bought or sold, which only supports that idea.

        • NOOOO

        • Wes

          Hmm. I assume it functions like a Master Ball then? It sounds like they’d be limited.

          • MelloMori

            Nobody knows right now. Only that it looks very unique and its animation seems similar to a certain UB’s appearance we’ve scene in a trailer.

    • thegreatcarbinkle

      spill it

    • Prince Fae

      I wish it was an actual pokeball

    • ShinyXatu

      Yeah, it’s thought to be used to catch Ultra Beasts.

      • Mr. EastGovnah

        its a ball to catch the NX

        • Wes

          It’ll catch these hands.

          • thegreatcarbinkle

            same

  • MewMew

    I’m breeding for something that I’m really excited about! made me think depending on how long it takes for this little guy to hatch it might become the last thing I end up shiny breeding until after playing Sun/Moon xD

    • Prince Fae

      Same, I’m breeding for a shiny love ball hoppip

      • MewMew

        Ooh that would be super cute! :O Good luck! I love Jumpluff, would say but the shiny I’m breeding for is actually a secret for now 🙂

  • Evil-Antho

    So it seems the NX is finally going to be revealed tomorrow!
    even Junichi Masuda tweeted about the announcement!

  • Claus H. Luíz

    The following is a the 4th video of leaks provided by Kaphotics. This video also talks about the Ultra Beats. To give you a month to get over your disappointment… there are no new fossils, at all. You’ve been warned~☆

    • thegreatcarbinkle

      i cant see the video rip

      • Claus H. Luíz

        Was it cause I put it in spoilers? I edited out the spoiler tags.
        Either way, I added Kephotic’s actual video as a reply to my comment.
        Hope it works for ya.

        • thegreatcarbinkle

          ty!

    • Wes

      This video is tempting, but I vowed not to view (most) spoilers excluding the Pokemon.

      • thegreatcarbinkle

        i cant even see the link lol

    • Claus H. Luíz

      Here’s the shorter version without Shofu’s commentary.

    • Pharap

      I was anticipating there being no new fossils, so it doesn’t come as a shock to me.

      • Claus H. Luíz

        It does come off as a disappointment, though. Would’ve loved to see some gen 7 fossils.

        • Pharap

          Again, I’m not really upset because I was totally expecting it. If there had been some hint that they might make more fossils then I might have been disappointed, but the only ‘evidence’ we had was wishful thinking from fans.

  • thegreatcarbinkle

    The opponent has one of most unique teams I have ever seen, props to him

    • EarthenWarrior

      The face is all kinda of wrong

      • It’s supposed be a bit more cartoony with her expression

      • Prince Fae

        thats stars signature style dude, its what makes it unique and fantastic

    • It looks very cool. You seem to have the shading and highlights done quite well.

      As for improvements: Well, I tried not putting my elbow on the table for that pose and it’s extremely tiring… XD

      Also right hand is reversed so you should be drawing the fingers. (I tried it and the pose is very plausible.)

      • Blaaahh drawing hands is the worst. I should just spend a day drawing hands. Just shut myself off from the world and draw hands in the dark.

        For real though I could’ve spent more time on the hands and the pose. Again thanks for the helpful criticism!!

        • Yer welcome!

          Even now I don’t like drawing hands. Even when it’s furries, cute creatures, only 4 fingers or blocky fingers… good luck with the hand practice though!

          As for the other issue you could just raise the table a bit and it’ll look normal.

    • Pharap

      It’s mostly good, I don’t like the way the cheeks are done though.

      • In what way? 😛

        • If I hazard to guess, the excessive blush can make it look swollen or give the illusion that it is swollen or puffed up.

          • Oh good point. Yay omg I love all the constructive criticism

          • No prob… I didn’t notice it at first either… but then again anime-style characters are usually drawn with less blush (if any) like in Pharap’s screenshot above.

        • Pharap

          I don’t like that particular way of colouring cheeks that also makes them look shiny, it makes them look blotchy and unnatural.

          http://cdn.anisearch.com/images/character/cover/full/1/1178.jpg

    • Exeledus

      aww I love it! I’m going to save the image so I don’t lose it, hope that’s alright!

      • Yeah that’s fine! I’m really glad you like it! its also on my tumblr so yeah

  • Pharap

    Lance is winning, looking at who won the other contests I’m really not surprised.

  • Shady

    U see this mushroom didn’t look afraid from the poison……spoiler

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    ..
    ..
    ….
    …..

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    …..
    http://i.4cdn.org/vp/1476922623707.jpg

  • Prince Fae

    The only one that should be winning tbh (took me a while to find fanart that wasn’t disgusting, the hell is wrong with people…)

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5bea31d4c5c785147ca451bdcd27263c3a3389123c694db457bf7b30cdde01b5.jpg

  • _Q_

    Who is really into competitive battling? I’ve grown bored of it and have a lump of 6iv Dittos (Adamant, Jolly, Modest, Impish, bold, brave, sassy{?}, and a 3iv Japanese timid) I want to rid of.

    • _Q_

      Oh the Dittos were from a friend of mine who has stopped competitive battling after gen 5, so they’re most likely pokegenned

    • I’ll take them if you are able to trade tomorrow

      • _Q_

        I should be able in the late afternoon.

    • Prince Fae

      *heavy breathing* If you need someone to take one off your hands I would be happy too O_O

      • _Q_

        Which one(s)? There’s a few people who want them haha

        • Prince Fae

          Doesn’t matter to me, Id take any one youre willing to give, but if other people have already claimed them then I am ok

    • Weaseltown

      I lost my 6IV jolly breeder jap ditto when my ol’ friend stole my x version! Any chance you have an extra 6iv jolly?

      • _Q_

        Consult with the others. I only have the one.

    • MewMew

      If they’re not gone I’d like a 6iv one if that’s alright! though i’ll wait to give the others a chance first 🙂

      • _Q_

        Find out with the others which ones are a available. I haven’t traded any yet.

  • For me, Lance is the only option. He’s the only one of those guys who gave me any trouble.

  • I think it’s funny how after hating Salandit’s evolution, It is actually exactly what I wanted after I calm down and look at fan art rather the mid-animation pose it’s in in the leaks

    • I think it’s an alright design. It’s a shame that since this is the internet and it’s a bi-ped it will be known as fur-bait.

      • Pharap

        Yeah. And it also seems everyone has already decided only female versions of it exist.

        • Oh boy. The posts about female Salandit’s pheromones was bad enough.

          • Pharap

            I’m hoping the most that will happen is different move pools, if it’s another case of ‘only male/female can evolve’ I’m going to mail Earthen to Nintendo HQ with a battleaxe and warhammer.

          • I just imagine a Rhyperior in a tiny little box with a little smile on its face

          • This please. Vespiquen makes sense because Queen bee and all, but if Braixen and Brionne can be male this thing can be too.

      • I don’t really mind that all too much though. If it is based on a Succubus like I theorized it fits well

        • I never made that connection. Maybe it will get Leech Life now that it REPLACED DIG (still mad)

          • Watch Leech Life become a 60 power move with a chance for poison

          • Oh and its Japanese name is literally “Suck Blood”

          • A single tear rolls down Golbat’s face. (poor eyeless zubat)

    • Shady

      Actually moat of the time when u hate something from a first look u have a great chace to fall in love with it……that’s y I ask ppl don’t rush in hate.

      • Yep, you’re exactly right

      • TFW you were right about me and the starters. I love them now.

      • PercyEspeon

        My philosophy 🙂

    • Exeledus

      have you seen its shiny? my favorite shiny this gen!

      • Its so cooool!!!!!!!!!!

        • Exeledus

          didja get my art request?

          • Scroll down! I should’ve spent more time on it but hopefully you like it!

    • Ultron

      Can you like some?

      • what

        • Ultron

          Of the artwork 😛

          • Mostly the art posted below

          • Ultron

            Oh, I see…I said “like” instead of “link.” Ooops

    • Ahhhh Pokken. I miss when that game wasn’t deader than Lysandre.

      • Is was so hyped up then just died on release

        • To be fair, it was released on a ded system. I hope we get a sequel on the NX with a bigger roster of characters.

  • Nintendalek42

    Damn, the NX reveal is just when my afternoon lectures start, yay -_- … Well, they start at five past, but I’d rather talk with my friends than start hyperventilating and choo-chooing like a hype train in the middle of a lecture theater…

  • Spetsnaz

    So imma need help team building this gen haha, I want little and Palosand for sure..but no idea who else

    • Prince Fae

      use an Oricorio?

      • Spetsnaz

        Probably psychic one since I’ll need one until solgaleo

        • Prince Fae

          (shameless Morelull evo plug) ~~~ lol you should use Morelull

          • Spetsnaz

            It’s poison fairy right?

          • thegreatcarbinkle

            grass fairy

          • Prince Fae

            honestly I freaking hope so, but so far we don’t know, it may just retain the grass/fairy typing

          • Spetsnaz

            Still a good typing

    • What kind of types do you like? Any pokemon you want?

      • Spetsnaz

        I try to avoid overlapping types if I can, but fire is my favorite and got it covered

    • Pharap

      Use Pokemon you like the look of, forget all about types and stats 😛

      • Spetsnaz

        I usually don’t care much for stats haha

    • Suggestion with avoidance of overlap types: Litten, Palossand, Mimikyu, Pyukumuku, Pikipek/Lurantis/Jangmoo (pick 2)

      • Spetsnaz

        Mamber I could do something like that, but replace mimikyu with jangmoo

        • That works, none of the Pokemon I added do share a type (except Mimikyu which I forgot is a ghost)

    • thegreatcarbinkle

      Tsaarena!

      • Spetsnaz

        It honestly doesn’t appeal to me much haha

        • thegreatcarbinkle

          oh… well i would recommend a grass type tho. I think Morellul fits perfectly because yoou would have the dark/ghost/fairy combo going around and that is pretty good

          • Spetsnaz

            That’s not a bad team 🙂

        • Pharap

          Why not?

          • Spetsnaz

            I’m other sure…maybe part of me thinks they made it as fan service for the rule 34 people out there

          • Pharap

            I’m pretty sure that wasn’t intentional, that’s just the internet being the internet.
            There will be rule 34 of everything.
            I’ve seen rule 34 of Silvally already.

          • Spetsnaz

            That’s a scary thought
            But I don’t know, it’s just weird to me that these creatures would add apt to be “attractive”

          • Pharap

            I still don’t see why people think it looks sexualised. it’s got long eyelashes but other than that it it doesn’t look that unusual. It reminds me of Lilligant, but tougher and more serious.

        • Ultron

          The final is meh to me as well…too similar to Lilligant. I like its middle evo best.

    • Ultron

      Litten
      Palossand
      Oricorio (pompom or pa’u)
      Wimpod
      Lurantis
      Kommo-o

      Eh?

      • Spetsnaz

        I can’t believe I actually forgot about wimpods evolution…Ir looks like a beast

        • Ultron

          YEAH it does. Probably my favorite pokemon this gen. I asked for a king to volcarona’s queen and they delivered.

          • Spetsnaz

            I might need a rotating team

          • Ultron

            You could do that, although it’s extra work.

          • Pharap

            Tbh I don’t even know why people bother with fixed teams, I’ve always constantly swapped pokemon in and out of my team and never had an issue with gym battles.

          • Ultron

            That’s weird. I’ve never done that. I’ve ditched pokemon, but only twice and that was pidgeot for togekiss and Fearow for Honchkrow.

          • Pharap

            Weird. I’ve always swapped Pokemon in and out as required. The moment I found something I liked better I’d swap it out. I don’t think there’s ever been a game where I’ve had the same team all the way through.

            You people have been trying to follow the Anime’s rules too much.

          • Prince Fae

            This is the first gen I won’t be swapping out, gunna pick a team and stick with it. Don’t worry though you’re not the only one who did that

          • Your Landlord

            I feel bad when I just abandon pokemon in my journey.

          • Pharap

            Putting them in a box isn’t abandonning them, it’s giving them a well deserved rest. Besides, now we’ll have the Pokepelago to put them in.

            And Ash has actually done it before, with Muk and Krabby.

          • Your Landlord

            It has nothing to do with the anime. I just like to keep the same pokemon on my team throughout the game.

          • Pharap

            Weird. Seems like a waste.
            720+ Pokemon and you limit yourself to just 6.

  • Nintendalek42

    Grrr, Malva overtook Drasna, just like Caitlin wone overtook Grimsley… >:(
    Oh well, at least two of my picks made it in! Yay Lance and Phoebe!
    Voted for Phoebe, she and Grimsley are definitely the best two elite 4 trainers IMO.

    • Pharap

      I feel your pain.
      Lance is the only one of the 5 I actually voted for.

  • Someone fixed Alolan Persian. I would use it if it looked like this

    https://65.media.tumblr.com/a5a8edf963c546b78009b1b950578c29/tumblr_ofa6yt7Wt31rd7gpho1_1280.png

    • PercyEspeon

      Yeah, the face it has definitely fits more with a chubbier smaller body, than the long, thin one they kept from regular Persian.

    • Prince Fae

      YES ALL MY YES!! why did they kill its body like that :CCCC

      • I dream that GF put it in intentionally to punish us for data mining and it actually looks closer to this in the real game

        • Prince Fae

          *it was all just a bad dream* Wake me up

    • I don’t really have a least favorite ‘mon but Alolan Persian is certainly the top contender. Really like this artist’s rendition, though! I think it’s the fur that brings it all together.

    • thegreatcarbinkle

      reminds me of purugly now

      • Except this time it is Purrty

        • Exeledus

          …careful.

          • Come on I was really proud of that pun I should have at least 7 more upvotes

          • Exeledus

            nope cuz purugly is purryootifull.

          • Purugly is the best cat mon in the series.

          • Pharap

            *Delcatty starts crying*

          • Quit that Liepard-ing!

          • ok dont upvote that one

          • TOO LATE

          • Pharap

            That’s not even a pun, that’s just desparation.

          • this is true

          • Prince Fae

            *Delcatty and Liepard cough up some hair balls in your bed for that*

          • POKEMON ARE REAL?

          • Prince Fae

            they became real for this moment

          • I already heard that from Professor Willow…

          • Ultron

            Luxray says hello and goodbye

          • Pharap

            >Taking a Lion to a domestic cat fight

          • Ultron

            Shinx is def a kitten though. Even so, Meowstic >>> purugly

          • Pharap

            I wish Meowstic’s move pools were swapped, I prefer the blue one.

            Shinx is more like a lion cub than a kitten.

            And I read that as ‘bit shift left’ instead of ‘greater than’ 😛

    • Well when I thought Alolan Meowth just being a palette swap was bad… Alolan Persian being a palette swap then head swap is… 😉

      • Pharap

        I was hoping for just a palette swap, instead we got trolled.

    • Pharap

      Almost posted that yesterday, avoided it because I don’t know how many people actually know who Tom Jones is outside of Britain.

      • I just love that whole bit so much

      • Whaaaat? People haven’t heard of Tom Jones? I thought everyone knew What’s New Pussycat and It’s Not Unusual…

        • Pharap

          I don’t know, I used to think everyone knew who Steven Fry was until I met an American who’d never heard of him.

          I send her a clip of Fry and Laurie and all she said was “omg that’s House” ; n ;

  • Pharap

    Dunno if spoiler tags are necessary, added them anyway.

    https://twitter.com/RealShigeruM/status/788872103890157568

    • Monkeyfuzz

      If it was the first ones I would have an easier time accepting them.

      • Pharap

        Tbh I have no issue with our new aryan overlords.

        • Monkeyfuzz

          I still don’t like them. Or Alolan Persian. But unlike most people I’ve come across I was fine with Alolan Raticate.

          • Pharap

            I would have liked Raticate if it hadn’t been for the cheeks. And alolan Persian was awful.

            This is why people should have just been ok with palette swaps, ask GF for something more and you get really hideous things happen.

  • Post Teams:
    Poppmaid
    Gumshoos
    Mimikyu
    Morelull
    Turtonator
    Anchorbro

    • Popplio3
      Mimikyu
      Salandit
      Oricoro Yellow
      Lycanrock
      Lurantis

    • Spetsnaz

      What typing do you hope for anchorbro?

  • Prince Fae

    If you talk to the Pedophile in the Sun and Moon demo a lot apparently his dialogue changes and you become special to him. Interesting to know. Also what was he doing behind that statue all by himself? hmmm? HMMM???

  • Green

    I have some art I made to share with you guys, but I’ll wait for a new article.

    • iwannaseeitthouuuugh

      • Green

        Okay. But I might post it again if a new article comes along.

        • The next artical will be full of NX hype

          • Green

            Exactly. It’ll be more major than this one.

          • Pharap

            Good, that’ll give me an excuse to leave 😛

  • Green
    • Prince Fae

      this is awesome. but question,

      what is it doing with that ribombee?

      • Green

        Playing. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

        • Ok now I question your intentions with this drawing

          • Green

            No. It’s not like that. My intention was to make some kind of a drawing that shows Furret’s scarfiness along with Ribombee wearing a Scarf

          • Yeah I know 😛

          • Green

            I know you know 😛

          • Pharap

            I know you know Star knows.

          • Green

            I just said I know Star knows. You know?

          • You know that Pharap knows you know that I know that I, Star, knows what you know

          • Green

            Know more knows.

          • I will

    • !!!!! OMG It’s so cuuute!

      ok let me criticize it though. Legs look a bit wobbly and it makes the tail look like weird long skinny legs. Maybe make the tail more poofier.

      But seriously great work! Super cute!

      • Green

        I agree with the legs. I tried to draw the little oval legs that Furret has, but I couldn’t get them in the right perspective.

    • Furret looks like it is (or was) doing a drop kick…

  • Pharap

    I want to draw more art and close the window but there is a cat occupying me ; n ;

  • Sneak Peek at my new pokemon fan game https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CumP7sCWgAArBM6.jpg

  • Prince Fae

    Guys it knew all along what it was going to become, this is it throwing off the hate https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4de7de016014b0ccd4c527e8f7c6aea02e575dd711d6dc7d2ccc73729dc5eaf4.jpg

  • CoolGlaceon

    Why is the NX reveal such a short notice? You’d think a new console warrants to be hyped up a couple weeks prior to a reveal. Nevertheless, I’m extremely hyped.

  • Pokemania88

    I don’t know if you all saw this but pretty interesting video.

    • Pokemania88

    • IS this today’s event?

      • Pharap

        I haven’t found her yet.
        I’m also pretty sure events aren’t daily.

  • Pharap

    Since we’ve given up on keeping spoilers secret:
    https://twitter.com/RealShigeruM/status/788817001171021825

  • Pharap
  • Pharap

    When people saw this and said “not another shitty recolour”
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvEBOQYWIAA5Z3Y.jpg

    Look who’s laughing now!

  • Dicie

    Rather dumb question, but do the Trial Captains have their own separate teams?

    • Based on the demo, it just seems that they are just siccing the Totem Pokemon on the player at the end of the trial…

      But considering Olivia does throw a Pokeball and fight alongside a Nosepass… there might be more.

      • She’s a Kahuna though that’sdifferent

      • PercyEspeon

        But it’s weird that they have type specialties if we don’t battle them, in a way

        • Well it probably just indicates the type of the Pokemon at the end of the trial.

    • Pharap

      No idea, so far I’ve taken it that we don’t actually fight them, they just host the trial and we only fight Kahunas.

    • Pokemania88

      They did say SOME trials will involve battling. Some will do other things.
      I wonder though if you can maybe battle them for the post game, and they will have a fully fledged out team. Especially for the ones who you don’t battle

  • I have a feeling they left some of the sprites in the game on purpose, especially considering there are missing sprites of revealed Pokémon.

  • Pharap
    • Shady

      Many ppl whining about Litten3 and call it shit if u check 4chan humanz team it the most popular one most ppl use in their team and I am not surprise I told u that u that’s will gonna happen human.

      • Pharap
        • Shady
          • Pharap
          • UnburdenedLegume

            Tears

          • You guys hate Litten3 like I hate Pikipek3

          • Pharap

            I like Pikipek 3.
            Even if it is almost certainly Flying/Normal.

          • UnburdenedLegume

            Pikipek3 might be a contender for my favourite bird. Currently Starraptor

          • Pharap

            I don’t like Staraptor.

            The toucan is already high up my list, its typing just dictates how high up.

          • UnburdenedLegume

            1: Starraptor
            2: Pidgeot
            3: Braviary
            4: Honchcrow
            5: Swellow

          • Pharap

            Completely forgot Braviary even existed.

            I don’t have an absolute ordering but Honchcrow is up there. If we’re counting non-regional birds probably:

            -Honchcrow
            -Altaria (not the Mega though)
            -Toucan
            -Oricorio (Baile)
            -Noctowl

  • Monkeyfuzz

    What if Alolan Dugtrio is based off of Wrestlers hair and is actually Ground/Fighting…

    • Pharap

      4chan thinks it’s based on Pele’s hair and is Ground/Fire.

      Until more evidence turns up, I’m assuming it’s either Ground/Normal or just plain Ground.

      • Monkeyfuzz

        I don’t see why they’d just go with an Aesthetic change. It’s a ridiculous thing, they can at least give it something to use.

        • Pharap

          They don’t care about making things usuable anymore. Heck, if what they have been doing is anything to go by, it’ll be Ground/Dark or Ground/Fairy.

          • Monkeyfuzz

            Or somehow Ground/Ice orz

          • Pharap

            I’ll be fair, 4chan’s idea sound the best so far since the Pele’s hair thing seems legit.

          • Monkeyfuzz

            I guess we can only wait and see. I won’t likely be using it much if at all whatever it is, except perhaps for target practice..

          • Pharap

            At least it doesn’t have an iron filings mustache *looks at Probopass and Golem*

          • Monkeyfuzz

            Golem looks like an evil Dictator. I imagine it saying Gulag instead of Golem.

          • UnburdenedLegume

            Jokes aside, the Aloan Geodude line seems to based off lodestones. Rock/Electric seems very likely at this point. Which is a unique type combination and one I have been wanted for years

          • Monkeyfuzz

            Yeah I know, I think it’s a pretty cool concept, even if it is strangely executed. The typing is certainly unique, not sure it can rely on Magnet rise to counter it’s 4x Earthquake/Ground weakness though. Maybe it’ll run Air Balloon before setting it up, assuming it even gets Magnet Rise. I’d also expect at least Discharge and Charge on it.

          • UnburdenedLegume

            They have railguns. Gonna spam Zap Cannon just because it’ll be satisfying

          • Pharap

            Golem is basically a taser.

      • Shady

        I was predict that too.

      • Exeledus

        ground normal would rock my socks!

        • Pharap

          It’s mostly the same as ground, but gains weakness to fighting and immunity to ghost.

          • Exeledus

            ….ok. I know how type matchups work lol

          • Pharap

            Just saying, it’s not that special.

          • Exeledus

            normal types are special to me! 😀

          • Pharap

            All 97 of them!

            And I’ve suddenly remembered Diggersby is a thing ; n ;

            Alolan Dugtrio > Diggersby

          • Exeledus

            I like ’em both! wait, there’s really only 97? or are you only counting fully evolved? (actually I take that back, I hate dunsparce.)

          • Pharap

            I’m going by what Bulbapedia says.
            97 is a lot (35 ice types…)

          • Exeledus

            I know its a lot I was just expecting like 120ish. I know normal and water have the most.

          • Pharap

            Water has the absolute most at 120.

          • Exeledus

            maybe that’s what I was thinking of. Thanks!

      • UnburdenedLegume

        Some people speculated Ground/Fairy. I really hope dont hope that, for the sake of Earthen’s housemates and neighbours lol

        • Exeledus

          and neighboring nations

  • UnburdenedLegume

    Before I head out to class I want to remind everyone, that today is the Greninja farewell episode. And I will cry

    • Pharap

      I will be cheering.

      • Exeledus

        this. though, i’d prefer it if it were “farewell ash”

  • Pokemon B2W2 has such good music. Im in Virbank right now

    Dewott – Chell
    Sewaddle – June (side note I can never remember Sewaddle’s name

    • InfinityD4

      my favorite background music in pokemon has to be Driftveil City.

    • Exeledus

      which city had Brycen? that music is great.

      • Iccirus City? I like how the music changed when you got close to the people singing and dancing

    • UnburdenedLegume

      Sewaddle <3

  • Pharap
    • UnburdenedLegume

      Was it ever expected there would be? Clearly the focus is Z-Moves. Although I kinda hoped Solrock and Lunatona would get a mega, just because it fits the whole theme

      • Pharap

        I never thought there would be, but some people here did.

        Aparently Solrock and Lunatone might not even be in the regional dex, but those might be false rumours.

        • UnburdenedLegume

          I’m actually glad we dont even have access to Megas until after completion of the main game. Imagine having both Megas and Z-moves from the get go lol

          • Pharap

            So far I prefer Z-moves to megas since
            A) Aside from the really specific ones, all pokemon can use Z moves
            B) They don’t involve really weird/lame form changes
            C) You can only use them once, for one turn only, not “once but they drag on for ages”.

    • Nintendalek42

      Lol who even could have had any hope after the pathetic amount of pokémon/alolan forms we’re getting was revealed. Don’t rub it in, it’s too painful already :'(

      • Pharap

        I never thought there would be from the start.
        I’ve been saying “no new megas” for at least a month, I’m just happy I can finally base my claim on evidence rather than foresight.

        • Nintendalek42

          I haven’t had hope for a long time either, especially since pokémon-specific z-moves were announced, but honestly with the wasted mess GF have made of the Alolan form concept and the horrendous UBs, I’m starting to really miss good’ol megas, as much as I hated them on reveal.

          • Pharap

            I still don’t like the megas, but I agree that the UBs are awful and they wasted the alolans.

            There’s only a handful of the alolans that I actually like.

            (At least we know why they kept alolan Persian a secret now.)

    • guest

      yeah it sucks, should have given us at least flygon since he was planned anyway.

      • Exeledus

        yeah, what this totally handsome dude who is in no way me that had to go onto firefox cuz disqus hates me, but he couldn’t sign in said.

        • Pharap

          It wasn’t ‘planned’ only ‘considered’.
          “Sugimori: Flygon has had the potential to have a Mega Evolution since XY, but we were unable to complete a design and so it was dropped from consideration.”

    • MelloMori

      Yeah I’m not the happiest with the news. but Oh well. He made a point at least to say game, and not generation, so I suppose its likely that the Sinnoh Remakes will make up for them, given their really isn’t much they can do with Z-moves once Sun and Moon are released. I really don’t see players saying a single powerful move is enough to replace standard hold items in competitive, and really it doesn’t seem likely that they’ll just keep creating new z-moves for specific pokemon.

  • Exeledus

    I’m kinda worried about these games to be honest. now, I know I shouldn’t rush to conclusions, but it worries me anyways. I feel these trials may not be in depth. playing the demo, taking photos of those pokemon wasn’t really fun. we know a trial will consist of collecting items… idk, am I the only one?

    • PenguinBand1t

      I am with you on this. I felt a bit flat after playing the demo. The trial felt like a side quest in a way, and not substantial enough. I kept waiting for something more and went ‘is that it?’ after I beat the trial

      • Pharap

        They were always supposed to be like side-quests, what gave you the impression they would be something else?

        • PenguinBand1t

          I know they were. But I thought just maybe because they replaced the gym system, it will be something a bit more substantial.
          Or maybe also because I was forced to use Greninja and not one of new pokemon 😀

          • Exeledus

            yeah it was pretty much “Greninja destroys things instantly” the demo. I used Kukui’s Pikachu whenever I could. they shoulda gave us a starter and let us catch the wild pokemon, not like they could evolve anyway.

          • PenguinBand1t

            Yeah I know. I spent so much time in the catching contest hoping to evolve them

    • Pharap

      I’ve had that concern about trials from the moment they were announced. It seems most people didn’t realise what ‘colllecting items from the forest floor’ and ‘taking pictures of pokemon’ actually entails.

      But at the same time, I’m hoping people will find them boring so it will make people realise gyms weren’t boring and they were never the issue.

      I’ll admit though, having to fight the pokemon after taking pictures of
      it make it more fun than just taking pictures, so the trials might turn out
      better than expected. Totems are still pretty easy to beat though, beating that Hakamo-o was easier than beating a first gym.

      • Exeledus

        I’m sure there will be interruptions, such as team skull bothering you during the trial. the only reason I’m not too worried is because a recent interview with gamexplain, they said the games will be packed full of content. honestly though, i’d forgive mediocre trials if they gave us a battle frontier.

        • Pharap

          Team Skull are an annoying bunch of chavs though.

          Doesn’t specify what content though.
          The festival plaza, pokepelago, pokemon finder etc all count as content too. The game could still be ‘full of content’ and still have really brief/boring trials.

          We’re not getting a battle frontier.

          • Exeledus

            jeeze pharap no need to be a negative nancy all the time bro. I like team skull, they are great so far.

          • Pharap

            Team Skull are an annoying bunch of chavs. The admins have a bit of character, the grunts are just lame though.

            I’m serious about the battle frontier thing. At most we’ll get another battle maison.

            There are plenty of things I like about the game, but there’s a lot more that I dislike.

          • Exeledus

            ugh please not another maison/subway because they were the same thing… I wouldn’t even care if its a remake of a previous frontier. after so much complaining, they had to have changed SOMETHING, right? isn’t that why we have trials over gyms? people were sick of the same formula. I remember people complaining about the lack of post game content a lot…

          • Pharap

            I was happy with the gym formula, I never understood why people complained about it. I think they were projecting their hate of XY onto all gyms.

            The only things I liked about the maison were
            A) Sit back, press buttons, no thinking
            B) Spend BP on cool items

            Also I have no idea how Nintendo even check what people are complaining about. Dunno if they do proper polls or actually pay people to go around forums reading complaints.

          • Exeledus

            my assumption would be they read reviews from journalists, like game informer, ign, gamespot, etc.

        • Serenotic

          Well, the demo actually reminded me of a gym with the exclusion of people. Most gyms are small, trivial puzzle rooms. I mean the demo trail was basically Gardenia’s gym all over again. Find the trainers before you can fight me sort of deal. It was seriously not that different from a gym. You guys just need to warm up to it a bit. 🙂

          P.S. We need an updated Emarald Battle Frontier!

      • AlolanSandschrew

        I miss gyms already

    • AlolanSandschrew

      I feel that too, it didn’t really feel like a pokemon game while doing the first trial. It felt a bit too much gimmic-y like Yokai watch.. They really changed a lot from the previous games this time..

      Hopefully I will still enjoy it (I probably will, but it needs some getting used to)

      • Pharap

        I’m glad I’m not the only one who saw the Yokai Watch similarities.

        I like the changes to the overworld but the trials are begining to look like the disappointment I was anticipating.

      • Exeledus

        I’m sure the games will still have battles that are climactic, but they may not be involved with the trials. I’m thinking guzma, aether foundation, ultra beasts, etc.

    • Pokemania88

      It’s only the demo so I’m not too worried. I mean after all, it was a demo and Kukui isn’t a trial captain. So I doubt that’s how quick our trials will actually be. It seems like (according to the trailers and lots of people who played a good amount of the game) that many of the trials involve some interesting things. Collecting ingredients, calming a rainy Pokemon, etc.

      Even if they are short don’t forget how much we might be getting thanks to all the types.

      • Pokemania88

        Sorry correction, *raging not raining lol

      • Exeledus

        its not how short they are, its what they consist of. Kiawe’s trial “watch 3 dances, spot the difference” or whatever. like, really? again, I don’t want to judge these preemptively, but still…

        • Pokemania88

          Right. I’m sure they’ll be some that are pretty lackluster and some that are exhilarating. Just like some gyms of gym leaders are really memorable, some aren’t. also I have a feeling we might be able to battle them in the post game.

          Speaking of post game. I feel like that will be really improved this time around. Game freak I think is pretty good at fixing things that they are critiqued for. Ex: hms removed, gyms replaced and fresh new take, seems like a good story (people didn’t seem to enjoy X and Y story), etc.

          • Exeledus

            yeah that’s for sure, they are listening to complaints based on what we’ve seen. (inb4 pharap disagrees) lol jk pharap your a cool dude.

    • TigerMasku

      It was kinda boring to be attacked by the hakanmo-o and not be able to catch it

  • POKE STAR STUDIO FREAKING CHEATS

    Ok so I wanna do all of the movies because I’ve never done that before but come on! I’m doing Invaders and I just can’t do it! I miss, then I get crits and I just can’t get the good ending! Blaahh

  • Pokemania88

    I must say with all of these different elements (UB, the two teams, trials, z-moves, Lillie, new Pokemon) in sun and moon I COMPLETELY forgot about legendaries .
    How are they even going to be integrated in the main story is confusing to me lol

    • Exeledus

      I have a theory. the thing in lillie’s bag? I’m guessing it changes depending on the version to the “pre-evolution” of the mascot legendary. NOT CONFIRMED BTW lol.

      • Pokemania88

        It was actually confirmed I believe by some site that played the first couple hours of the game.

        • Exeledus

          I thought that was something they weren’t allowed to disclose?

          • Pokemania88

            Yes until after these leaks and then they published that article.

    • Pharap

      Legendaries > Z Moves > Trials > Aether > Skull > Lillie > UBs

      • Pokemania88

        Agreed. It’s just I forgot about them as all this overload came to us

        • Pharap

          Probably because everyone likes them, so any discussion about them would just be a ton of people agreeing that they’re good.

  • Exeledus

    do we know how z moves work? does the pokemon using the move need to hold the crystal? I should mention I didn’t pay attention to Pikachu’s held item during my trial.

    • Pharap

      Yes, the pokemon with the Z move needs to hold the crystal.

    • The item is auto-equipped to the Pikachu we just borrowed.

  • TigerMasku

    One of the worst things about the new games is removal of the d pad. I have been playing these games using the d-pad since 2007.

  • Pharap
  • Pharap
  • Willa

    Karen is hands down the best Elite Four member.