The article below contains spoilers for Pokémon Sun & Moon.
We have chosen not to publish any images obtained from the demo version and as such the information below is a text rundown of what has been uncovered. The comment section of this article will also contain spoilers.
The demo version of Pokémon Sun & Moon is currently live in some regions and some avid trainers have gotten to work uncovering everything the demo has to offer.
It seems that lessons haven’t been learned from Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire and the demo files contain information on some currently unannounced Pokémon and over information. It’s unknown if the demo contains files for all new Pokémon in the games, though at this point it seems almost definite.
Leaked Information
Alolan Forms
The demo contains files confirming the existence of many more Alolan Pokémon:
- Geodude, Graveler and Golem
- Diglett and Dugtrio
- Persian
New Pokémon & Ultra Beasts
- There are at least five new Ultra Beasts, bringing the total to 8
- The leaked Starter Pokémon evolutions are real
- Pikipek appears to evolve into a toucan Pokémon in it’s final stage
- Crabrawler, Wimpod, Morelull and Salandit all receive evolutions
- Solgaleo and Lunala both have a pre evolution/lesser form
- A new Pokémon that appears to be based on an anchor
- A new Pokémon and it’s evolution that were previously leaked by an Amazon listing for the upcoming Sun & Moon TCG expansion
- Another two Pokémon evolution line that appears to be part Bug type
- Marshadow is a real Pokémon, but doesn’t look anything like Solgaleo or Lunala
- Magearna has a form that looks more like a traditional Poké Ball
- Ash Pikachu is in the game and appears to be able to wear Ash’s hat from each region of the anime
- [NEW] The Pokémon models found within the demo are only from Pokémon found in the Alola Pokédex
[NEW] Pokémon Moves
- It seems there are a total of 719 moves in the games, by comparison Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire had 621
- 3 of these new moves appear to be taught via TM
- 29 of the new moves are Z-Moves (18 Z-Moves for each type and 11 special Z-Moves)
- HMs no longer exist and are not available as a regular TM
[NEW] Items
- There are 920 items present in the demo, 58 of which are related to Z-Moves
- A new medicinal item similar to Lava Cookie that cures all
- A new battle item with held effect (like Dire Hit)
- At least 6 new holdable items with effects
- A Key Item that is likely used to change Zygarde forms
- 3 items that are used to change forms
- Bikes and Travel Trunks (an unused key item) are not in the demo/games
- The Strange Souvenir item data appears unchanged in the games
- 1 new type of Poké Ball
- It appears the new ball cannot be bought or sold
We will update with further details if and when they come.
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The new Pokeball, is for catching the UB’s. 😀
I can’t help but wonder, when we transfer Greninja to the main game, what will happen to the player character in the demo. He’ll be left Pokemonless.
The OR/AS demo we still had the 3 starters when we transferred Glaile, but this time we don’t have any other pokemon.
Maybe we get the Pikachu Back…
You mean we might have use for that Electrium again? :p
Well we have use for it doing the capture challenge when you find a Pikachu there, but yes. I just don’t see them leaving him Pokemonless in his little unfinished dimension where he is bound to do the same thing every day.
Describing it that way is a serious mindscrew :p
To be fair though, those are all temporary Pikachu :p
But damn, you’ve genuinely got me curious.
Yes
It appears that Greninja will be copied to the game and not transferred?
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ce4f3828b796867f95d2b5f360cdde78453a5d94801290a380af0333295634f2.jpg
Ah, that answers that then.
A moderator need to change under the “NEW Moves” section to say that Surf, Waterfall, and Fly can all be taught via TM.
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Maybe this isn’t the entire Pokedex? #hopeful
If it is, I’m okay with this, and my decision with the starters hasn’t been swayed. Rowlett for Moon, Popplio for Sun.
PLUS I’m digging their shinies. SPOILER IMG!!
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e2e38182709224714747a8fe9753938624b8ba14f340a8c0ada272018d407622.png And why do the UBs have shiny sprites?
An Article on Polygon says that a Gamefreak employee came to them and said they were catchable.
I’m sure its been said before but I think Alolan Diglet and Dugtrio are going to be Fire/ground, Mostly because while i was looking over a website i noticed someone brought up Pele’s hair, which is basically Golden looking Fiberglass caused by Volcanic activity, and The rocks beneath it resemble volcanic rocks imo. I could be wrong but we will have to see.
Website wouldn’t hapen to be 4chan would it? lol
Nah. i don’t really frequent 4chan. Rather i found it on Tumblr.
Tumblr probably stole it from 4chan then, they’ve been discussing it for hours.
I don’t really care whether it was stolen from 4chan or tumblr or whatever. From what I’ve seen and heard both places are full of terrible people. That of course doesn’t mean everyone who frequents those places are terrible. just that they have some pretty shitty people who frequent there. All i know is its an idea that makes sense.
Tumblr’s full of terrible people.
4chan is organised chaos that is capable of producing good ideas because nobody takes insults seriously.
If the hair thing is true, Ground/Rock is looking most likely.
I happen to know some Decent people on Tumblr but i can understand. Tumblr can be an incredibly shitty place, with people who steal art, spread miss information, etc. And that Typing makes sense. i feel it might go either way but we won’t know till we see.
So any word on names and types for these new guys yet?
Those were scrubbed from the demo data, chances are we won’t know them until release. At least it gives us something to look forward to in the official reveals :/ .
Right, thoughts time:
I was honestly gonna try and stay unspoiled. But as I had planned, I got someone I trusted (my brother, turned out) to give me the lowdown on pokémon numbers… and just like XY, my massive disappointment meant there was no justification in making efforts to avoid spoilers, as I was only setting myself up to be disappointed once the game came out. Seriously, we only got 73 actual new pokémon, 8 UBS and 18 Alolan forms… A total of 99 overall, LESS than XYs 101 new ones (72+30 megas). I hadn’t realised this until I did this calc either, WHAT THE DAMN HELL. This is an ODD GEN!!!! EURGH…
Anyway, HAHAHAHAHAHA, of those, only 16 pokémon were left to be revealed (not including the amazon leak, or the starter evos), 6 of which were legendaries, and 7 of which were evolutionary relatives of previously revealed pokémon… Leaving 3 completely unexpected normal “wild” pokémon to be discovered. THREE. And only 7 evolutions! Absolutely not worth the hassle of no spoilers. Of the Alolan forms left unrevealed, there was only one new line, wow, amazing, and of course it turned out every single one of the remaining Alolan forms were basically pisstakes. Really satisfying, that. Then we had five new UBs, each of which only comforted my feeling the whole idea was a pure waste of development time and code.
As the direness of the numbers dawned on me, I just decided I may as well make the most of it, so me and my pokégang just got on skype, and the three of us who’d avoided the leaks discovered them together. At least that was fun to do.
But honestly, I feel Game Freak once again completely dropped the ball here. I was truly, dearly looking forward to discovering a whole region of new pokémon on my playthrough for the first time, to feel it was all earned after making efforts to avoid the spoilers. But now, all that’s not going to happen. New pokémon are the heart of each new game to me, I’m really not that bothered about the story (come on, it’s pokémon, not Game of Thrones…) or anything much else in comparison, except maybe the locations. I guess at least now when the games release in the states, I won’t have to avoid them like the plague. wooo….
All those leaks were promising over 100 new pokémon. I was expecting at least a decent (compared to XY) 90 new pokémon (as in not including alolans or UBs)… But no, we get the absolute lowest amount possible… Slow clap.
I love how GF were going on about how Alola is teeming with life and new things to discover. Now, this isn’t in itself contradicted by the number of pokémon we got, but I certainly feel this absolutely sh*tty tally clearly violates the spirit of that ethos. Now yes, I know GF want to slow down the number of pokémon as they get near a thousand. But then, come one now, don’t waste time on crap like UBs, and give us at least as many Alolan forms as XY had new megas, especially if you’re going to make half of them silly jokes. And yes, a lot of the new designs are amazing (there are massive duds too of course), but don’t you give me that “quality v quantity” crap. Gen V stands as a clear counterexample (to me at least, and to many other people too I’d think), and had a similar dud to gold ratio as gens VI and VII. And if they’re gonna give us such a low number of newbies, it’s just shameful to show over 80% of them before release as their advertising strategy does. In no way do they actually need to do that, they could divide the amount of pokémon per reveal by three and still get the same amount of hype, or at least sales…
Lol, I felt like I was being realistic simply by not expecting new megas or evolutions but expecting a decent amount of new pokés. Turns out I was still completely wishfully thinking.
Now, time to look at the actual content I guess:
The unrevealed pokémon are for the most part pretty cool or amazing:
-Didn’t expect the Toucan being Pikkipeks evo, and it would have been nice to get a proper big woodpecker, but honestly I llike this, it makes biological sense and is a pretty fun surprise. I guess it’s weird the toucan looks so much like a real toucan to the point it’s slightly jarring (except it’s eyes, man, what is up with those, I mean I don’t mind them, but dang).
-Salandit’s evo is pretty much as expected and really cool (especially it’s shiny form), though I think I would have preferred a quadruped, I’m more lenient on herptilian bipeds because of the obvious dinosaur vibes, and the feminine look really works on this one
-Morelull’s evo is good in some ways (love the creepy face and salad fingers), bad in others (hat the whole frilly hat thing and the loss of the multiple mushrooms)
-Wimpod’s evo is an absolute BAMF
-Urchin’s evo is neat, very fitting
-Crabrawler’s evo is amazing… I’ve always wanted a yeti crab pokémon, and to have one that’s actively dedicated to faking the existence of the yeti is pretty hilarious. Really hoping it goes ice-fighting (turns out we probably do get an new ice type after al-new dark type too somewhere I’m assuming?). I’m gonna call that it evolves with an ice stone, because it’s base stage goes through quite a drastic change to sudden icy appearance.
-I didn’t see the anchor at first and was gonna complain we had no new item pokémon until I saw it and forgot the sandcastles (yeah I’ve realised I actually like item-based pokémon). It’s really weird and I need to see more to get a proper opinion, but on first glance it looks worse than klefki, and that’s not good. It’s also a bit weird not to have the possessed archeology line we’ve had each gen since gen III this time (baltoy-bronzor-golett-honedge), and this thing would only very vaguely fit even if ghost type.
-The water spiders (which I first thought were viruses, and I maintain that’s probably an inspiration, look at how the base stage resembles a bacteriophage) are hella amazing
-Dissapointed with the guardians, they had some really amazing ones in previous fake leaks and none of these come close.
-Dunno what to think of the Legendary “prevos”, hope they’re forms
-Marshadow is kinda cute, but I’m dissapointed it’s not an awesome huge third legendary. I’m thinking as many others this just might be the chibi form. Wondering if it might not just be our mythical for this gen instead though
-What’s up with event pokémon then? Are they gonna be added through patches? Are they not a thing anymore? Is marshadow one, and one and only? This is one of the key remaining questions IMO.
I’m really dissapointed by the number of unevolving pokémon, it’s way too damn high. I can understand Pykumuku and Komala not evolving (though it would have been cooler for both to have evolutions), they both have pretty self-sufficent designs and work perfectly as pokémon versions of their real-life counterparts-ex: Komala is super cute. I have more trouble understanding Drampa, Turtonator, Oranguru ad Passimian not having prevos, they really had the potential for amazing ones. Minior not evolving into Mighteor is a waste (and the fake leaks had such good desgins for evolutions)… Bruxish could have used a relative as well.
I’m really gutted we didn’t properly get our snowman and dolphin, and I honestly thought the leaker had lied until I saw it pointed out he was referring to the tapu and the yeti crab. I guess those were pretty neat as cryptic hints then, but we still need these two ideas to be made into pokémon (seriously, we have a dolphin-symbol pokémon but no actual dophin??? Also where my cute/cool snowman at?)
I haven’t even covered my biggest frustration with gen VII: NO BLOODY FOSSILS. And don’t you dare tell me that “Alola is a volcanic island” crap, not only has game freak never cared about such things so why should they now, but these place do have at least subfossils IRL, and most importantly, the Alolan pokedex doesn’t just include KOALAS and RED PANDAS, but also fossils from previous generations…
No, this is honestly another one of GF’s typical and inexplicable random and stupid choices.
They denied themselves a whole, still extremely broad pool of ideas.
The fossils are always the pokémon I look forward to the most. SCREW YOU TO HELL, GF.
Now about Alolan forms: when it was first revealed, I really adored the concept, it held such high promise and the first batch was a very promising start… But then from there it only went downhill, to pokémon who were fine or were cool but had wack explanations (I’m looking at you, Marowak’s ghost type), or explanations that were just taking the pisss (Raichu). And then it ends on this batch of complete and utter jokémon. Now don’t get me wrong, I usually find joke pokémon funny, and I like the diglett line’s completely idiotic surfer style (though I’ve seen much better fake alolan digletts). But revealing the concept with Aolan Exggutor and Ninetales, and leaving us only Garfield Persian, surfer diglett and Geodude with facial hair to discover in game is disingenuous and cruel. Plus how the hell could they only be bothered to make 16…Why don’t we have at least the Koffing, Ekans and Machop lines to counterpart grimer, sandshrew and geodude?
Having seen in the gamexplain interview that they said they chose first gen pokémon as they were going to be most recognisable yet most striking as redesigns seems fair to me. But them saying they made them as gifts to long time fans who suck with them since gen I is just insulting and makes me sad. I’m sorry but that’s clearly not what anyone wanted. A real celebratory gift would have been to pick pokémon from each generation. Either GF are, as they often seem to be, completely clueless as to what people actually want, or they didn’t want to admit this was just a ploy to get the attentio of pokémon GO franchise relapsers, and genwunners. In any case it makes them look bad
I never liked UBs when they were first revealed and just immediately got to wishing they never existed, and this new batch of five doesn’t change that opinion in any way, it only strengthens it. Now don’t get me wrong, they’re interesting designs, they just have flip all to do with the aesthetic of the pokémon universe, and badly clash with it IMO. Them being confirmed as catchable only makes it worse. They would have been jarring enough as tough, uncatchable story bosses, but now we have to tolerate their usability in all future generations…
I get they’re supposed to be interdimensional entities and all that, and it’s a cool idea (strangely close, in fact, to the weird “alien type” idea I’d had as a kid for weird pokémon that would look like no others and come from space), but in practice not a single of those designs feels at all at home in a pokémon game to me.
A few more random thoughts about miscellaneous info, the demo, the gamexplain dev interview:
In the interview, they say thet basically added in ash-greninja as fanservice, as they knew fans, and especially, kids, loved it and thus wanted to give them the ability to use it… This is definitely why we have ash pikachu too. Now I wouldn’t be fundamentally agaisnt this in principle, but the seemingly shoddy way in which it’s being implemented annoys me to no end. Rather than give any explanation as to what ash-greninja is supposed to be, or give it any concept oustide of the anime (such as being a mega), they just throw it in, with all the anime strings attached. Well done one making the canon any clearer GF…
The fact they do this kind of fan service (another example of how they often are very aware of what fans think and often moreso than they let on), yet ignore much more sensible fan wishes and keep going with their typical inexplicable attitude, while delivering this sort of thing with so little proper thought is so typical GF, and so revealing of their infuriating half clueless/half careless attitude.
-A funny thing they said in the interview was that they themselves saw Samson oak as an Alola form.
-They also said megas were confined to the postgame.
A few things about the demo:
-So basically it seem your mom is going to stay in the town hall for over a month waiting for the authorities to process that you have moved to alola… Stuck in literal bureaucratic hell. Is this demo attempting to pull of some lowkey Kafkaesque satire?
-I noticed if you battle while using poké ride, you wear ride gear in battle.That’s neat!!
So overall, though I’m quite happy with most of the last few pokémon we discovered (though not with the alolan forms or UBs), I’ve really been let down by the dismal amount of new pokémon. I’m not gonna sugarcoat it, that has ruined gen VII to me to some extent. I’m still gonna massively enjoy the games and discovering what’s in them, but the whole promise of this lush new world full of unknown pokémon to discover just got killed, and there’s no way I’m gonna feel as hyped as I was about these games again.
On a final note (and wow, congrats if you read up to here, or dang, even if you made the effort to scroll, you crazy?), I’d absolutely love it if this weren’t the full pokedex, I really would, more than anything. I would give anything to have fossils, more evos, and more unknown lines to discover. But the fact is, I think the people who believe we’re in for more are just deluding themselves, as people did back when we discovered XY’s pokémon count, and they’re just setting themselves up for dissapointment. I’d rather not do that, I’ve already been hurt enough :'( .
This was all so beautifully said, I have nothing else to comment on
Your post seems mostly like a rant. I am also disappointed by the fact that we are getting over 100 new Pokemon, but I do appreciate the fact that the game devs went through the difficult process of improving the graphics, and creating a new engine for the game. As for there not being new fossil pokemon, that is pretty lame, but not every region needs fossils. Johto was just fine without new fossils. Hopefully the next generation has fossils though. I do wish that we would of gotten more alolan forms, but we can look forward to the Gen 4 remakes and having Sinnoh forms of certain pokemon.
Yeah, I can definitely see that, it is a rant in many ways, but it’s all backed up by thoughts and arguments, so a rant is really only a faithful representation of my opinion.
I’d disagree vehemently that not every region needs fossils, johto may have not had any, but it was essentialy Kanto.5 in may ways, and more importanly we’ve had fossils each gen since gen 3, so there’s no excuse but the usual GF shrug we must imagine they make each time they make a boneheaded decision.
But yeah, hopefully we get Sinnoh forms (which I’d actaully expect to be of Gen V/VI pokémon, which could be really cool.. except they’ll turn 40% of them into jokes at this rate) if we get gen IV remakes this gen, and a few new megas would be nice too.
You know Sinnoh forms are going to be great. I suspect that sinnoh forms will be for pokemon from Unova and Kalos, and potentially Hoen. I hope we don’t see any other Kanto pokemon getting buffs other than the Machop line because they honestly need a little love. I am expecting North and South version of Shellios and Gastrodon as well. I understand that its your opinion back up by fact. I am hoping that they will add 3 fossils in the gen 8 games. They could of made a few fossils for Alola, but they decided to try to follow the history of the Hawaii islands. They could of made a Sabertooth tiger or a Mammoth for the island that has the snowy area or a new water fossil, but I guess they decided against it. Though the Sinnoh remakes will hopefully make up for it. Also there seems to be too many 1 stage pokemon this gen, which makes me believe that they could possible pull a gen 4 in gen 8 by evolving some of this stand alone pokemon.
I’m not confident we’ll get gen IV remakes this gen, patterns can be hard to discern at this point but we’d at least expect them to be on the Switch, which would imply a massive graphical overhaul. If we do, and we do get sinnoh forms, I think it’d be most logical to get Unova and Kalos pokémon only as they don’t involve any retcon, though they could very well add johto or hoenn mons.
I’m honestly sick of the “geological history of alola” argument, there’s many reasons why it’s bullshit, the main ones being that hawaii does have some fossils, and that fossil pokémon for other gens are in the Alola dex. No fossils this gen is just one of those random idiotic GF decisions that make nos sense, and I’m not gonna let them get away with any excuses.
As for gen 8 being like gen IV, that would be amazing but I just don’t believe it can happen judging by the direction GF has been taking in past years. I guess our best hope now for having fewer standalones is that idea that this isn’t the full pokedex, but that seems like wishful thinking to me
That is all very true. If we don’t get sinnoh remakes I think people would be mad. I think we could possibly be getting a game on the switch based off of the region where yungoos and gumshoo come from. I think were pretty likely to get a fossils if thats the case. Switch gives them an opportunity to redeem themselves. I would also like some more steel types. I am just honestly happy that weather wars are nearly over. I am getting a little tired of primal groudon and primal kyorge.
The Pre-evolutions for Solgaleo and Lunala are mostly confirmed to be part of an evolution chain that evolves into the Box legendary, not separate Pokemon. This is supported by the datamine.
Thanks for all these Pokemons!
Don’t forget about Mimikyu and Mimikyu’s rap (; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXIoyRIBjxA
I don’t get why people say the Spider thing is a Bug ice type… it looks nothing like an ice type to me. Is it the light blue orbs on its legs? if i had to be honest it looks more Water or electric then ice. but the electric part or water part of my guesses could be based on similar assumptions as the ice typing for it.