The article below contains spoilers for Pokémon Sun & Moon.
We have chosen not to publish any images obtained from the demo version and as such the information below is a text rundown of what has been uncovered. The comment section of this article will also contain spoilers.
The demo version of Pokémon Sun & Moon is currently live in some regions and some avid trainers have gotten to work uncovering everything the demo has to offer.
It seems that lessons haven’t been learned from Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire and the demo files contain information on some currently unannounced Pokémon and over information. It’s unknown if the demo contains files for all new Pokémon in the games, though at this point it seems almost definite.
Leaked Information
Alolan Forms
The demo contains files confirming the existence of many more Alolan Pokémon:
- Geodude, Graveler and Golem
- Diglett and Dugtrio
- Persian
New Pokémon & Ultra Beasts
- There are at least five new Ultra Beasts, bringing the total to 8
- The leaked Starter Pokémon evolutions are real
- Pikipek appears to evolve into a toucan Pokémon in it’s final stage
- Crabrawler, Wimpod, Morelull and Salandit all receive evolutions
- Solgaleo and Lunala both have a pre evolution/lesser form
- A new Pokémon that appears to be based on an anchor
- A new Pokémon and it’s evolution that were previously leaked by an Amazon listing for the upcoming Sun & Moon TCG expansion
- Another two Pokémon evolution line that appears to be part Bug type
- Marshadow is a real Pokémon, but doesn’t look anything like Solgaleo or Lunala
- Magearna has a form that looks more like a traditional Poké Ball
- Ash Pikachu is in the game and appears to be able to wear Ash’s hat from each region of the anime
- [NEW] The Pokémon models found within the demo are only from Pokémon found in the Alola Pokédex
[NEW] Pokémon Moves
- It seems there are a total of 719 moves in the games, by comparison Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire had 621
- 3 of these new moves appear to be taught via TM
- 29 of the new moves are Z-Moves (18 Z-Moves for each type and 11 special Z-Moves)
- HMs no longer exist and are not available as a regular TM
[NEW] Items
- There are 920 items present in the demo, 58 of which are related to Z-Moves
- A new medicinal item similar to Lava Cookie that cures all
- A new battle item with held effect (like Dire Hit)
- At least 6 new holdable items with effects
- A Key Item that is likely used to change Zygarde forms
- 3 items that are used to change forms
- Bikes and Travel Trunks (an unused key item) are not in the demo/games
- The Strange Souvenir item data appears unchanged in the games
- 1 new type of Poké Ball
- It appears the new ball cannot be bought or sold
We will update with further details if and when they come.
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Cool beans
It was all believable until “Solgaleo and Lunaala get a pre-evolution”
You what?
What?
I’m not sure if you’re messing or serious?
I honestly don’t know anymore. Anything can happen.
There’s a chance they’re not technically pre evolutions, but they’re definitely lesser forms of Solgaleo and Lunala and they are real.
Ok. That would make more sense. When I saw it, I instantly thought of it like Type:Null’s situation.
I updated with a little clarification. 🙂
When I first saw them first thing that ran through my mind was Black and White with Reshiram and Zekrom. They had those orb forms in which they stayed dormant. Maybe this is something similar for Lunala and Solgaleo.
Morelull and Salandit evolutions are so damn disappointing 🙁
Morelull’s evo actually made it decent
You think so? I don’t like it at all, might grow on me tho.
I wasn’t planning on using Morelull anyway but at least this evo looks stronger
It has that soulless face
What are Partner Pokemon evolutions?
Starter Pokémon.
Do you like spoilers?
This is crazy. Of course, I kind of expected this sort of thing to happen the moment they announced the demo but still this revealed a hell of a lot more than I expected o.O
Okay so ive skipped the leaked info up there to ask you guys how many new pokemon there are in total. Ive heard 82 but also 141 before sooo whats true?
Apparently the total Pokémon is now around 800 so probably 82
ouch, that killed my expectations of getting at least 100 new pokemon.
are alola forms considered part of these 82?
No, but it includes Ultra Beasts and Mythicals
79 new Pokémon.
18 Alolan Forms.
8 Ultra Beasts.
7 “other forms”.
3/4 Zygarde forms.
It’s actually difficult to say exactly how many are new/forms/etc without giving spoilers. But that’s about right.
There is around 105 counting the UB’s, Alolans, and Form Differences.
71 New Pokemon, not counting Alolans, Form Differences or UBs
71 New Pokemon ( 75 counting Oricoro’s and Lycanroc forms)
8 UBs
18 Alolan Forms
no fossil pokemon???????
I prefer to not see any of those pictures, so thanks for not posting them
It seems that they wanted us to leak all of it. I don’t understand why they still bundle all game data in the demo…
We are just one month away from the final release, I think it’s worth the wait. I can live without seeing all new Pokemon designs 🙂
Not as many new Pokémon as I wanted but honestly who cares. Alola is still gonna be hella awesome!
alolan golem look like zhang fei??
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hi hi ~ first time poster here, but figured I could mention something teeny tiny with the demo, since I haven’t seen it anywhere else yet :’D Used a spoiler tag on it just in case.
My timezone is NZ on DST, so the DS just ticked over to the new day, and the first time-based reward from the guy sitting outside is 10 Pretty Wings. Seems to be a lot of money items we’re being given to transfer?
I find it EXTREMELY hard to believe we know of around 60 of the 70 new Pokemon… Even in X/Y we only knew 50%. If we can say the same for Alola, that brings the number up to 120. Really! They revealed a good 85% of the whole ‘dex?! Something’s fishy.
Serebii’s webmaster’s twitter mentioned it might be suspicious that the Shiny folder for the game got leaked while EVERYTHING else important was Scrubbed… and that they might have done it on purpose… I had a… somewhat unlikely theory that all the pokemon and UB’s we got info for were all the things they were going to reveal before release, and that there was actually much more to come with the release of the game. But frankly thats just a theory. and i could be completely wrong. More specifically the theory was that they left in the Shiny forms for all the pokemon to be revealed before release.
Hopefully we’ll still get more new pokemon, I’m still waiting for a good dark type. But if the pokedex is indeed complete, I wonder why they’re not creating more pokemon. I’m not asking for 151, but around 100 new + alolan forms would be perfect.
The evolution of Wimpod is amazing. Like Kabutops and Alien had a love baby. I’m so gonna have it in my party.
I’m def using it, but I don’t know if there’s any spot left on my team
I’m having a hard time deciding which Pokémon I want on my team this generation.
I had a feeling he was the new Magikarp. From nobody to Nightmare
– Weird spider is going on my team
– Toucan not going on my team
– Alien Kabutops going on my team
– Arrowal (Arr-ow-al), Tsareena, Kommo-o, Lurantis, Spider, and Alien Kabutops
I don’t think I’m getting any flying type this gen
The Pikipek line did the weirdest species-switch of any Alola Pokemon, but it still looks cool although the middle stage could be a little better.
i don’t mind the switch, but the last evo is underwhelming. We don’t need to use fly anymore so I’m more than happy
If anyone wants single images of all the new pokes along with their shiny forms…here ya go…
https://sli.mg/a/4HOcnq
Ugh, alolan Dugtrio and Persion, And Ub’s have shinys? WHyyyywyHYhwQ
why tf would alolan persian and dugtrio not have shiny versions
I said UB’s, Ultra beast’s
!!!!!SPOILER!!!!
I’m VERY sad that Drampa, Bruxish, Komala & Comfey are single stage Pokémon :((((
You forgot Pyukumuku
He’s probably not VERY sad about it, just sad
VERY 😛
Interesting, Alolan Marowak is missing from the list, so that means there’s more coming, right?
There seems to be a bit of argument whether more is coming or not. Some people seem adamant that this is (pretty much) everything, whereas some other people seem confident that GF hid some stuff and there will be surprises in the main game. I’m not sure what to believe, but for now I think we should maybe prepare ourselves that the datamine covered most of it.
I think GF left that in there on purpose. You don’t forget to remove all the shiny sprites. That being said, the demo guy’s name is sun. What if it’s true that the final egos have two forms and these are the sun ones. What if we are missing the moon forms plus a few more pokes exclusive to moon.
Ah, that makes a lot of sense! Thanks for clarifying. Haven’t gotten my hands on the demo yet. Planning on Sun anyway so guess these guys are my crew!
WTF is going on with Alolan Persian? It looks like a cat how ate a bee, got stung and now has a swollen face… >.<
Agree.
I was really hoping for something more elegant considering how Alolan Meowth looks… Alolan Persian kinda looks like it has a regular Meowth’s head… XD
agreed, super disappointed with alola persian’s face ugh….great description x__x
This is my cat who got stung in the face by a bee (she was alright). https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/abc69bf1a9fc05ca0b26980cdccaad651420a92a8dbe96196035c7f689d433c7.jpg
Alolan Persian: I hate mondays… Sun can you Get me some Lasagna?
So the ultra beasts have shinies? Curious…
Shiny Alolan Grimer is the same color as Kanto Grimer? Cuz the alolan form was Green in the trailer i thought
Where can I see these images? Is this it in terms of new Pokemon
So the rumor that we go to Kalos is false?
From what I understand, all story stuff and postgame content etc was scrubbed from the demo. So nothing like that was leaked.
I think the rumor of that stems from the text “Kalos Region” being in the demo. However, it more likely points out to the caught/hatched origins of the Pokemon
How do you mark spoilers
SPOILER STUFF
Remove spaces between spoiler and the .
I honestly don’t have much addition to my team
Wimpod’s evo caught me by surprise and therefore earned a valid entry (and besides I could use a water type)
But that’s where the buck stops here, the rest just don’t excite me
So either Crabrawler (which has a high chance of being Fighting/Ice or Bewear)
Heatigre
Lycanroc
Mudsdale
Bewear or Chrampion
Wimpod’s evo who’ll I’ll call Carapod or Crustpod
Kommo-o
Yes! I knew Wimpod would be a glorious gladiator of pure carnage! Makes me so happy. :*)
At least now I have fodder to make
I WAS A WIMPOD BEFORE EVOLUTION
NOW IM A JERK AND EVERYONE LOVES ME
Hell yeah!
Well I am glad you were able to construct a full team with Pokémon you like considering how small this dex is. Still bigger than XY but small nevertheless.
Wimpod all the way
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Yes!
No Komala evo 🙁
Yeah, that was disappointing. I know they have single stage dex filler in every gen but Komala so much promise to evolve…
How do you make the grey box?
If nothing else leaks then this will be my first team:
Alolan Ninetales
Popplio3
Lycanroc Midday Form
Salandit2
Wimpod 2
Kommo-o
So Komala gets no evolution? And what about the snowman and dolphin pokemon? Those were in the same rumor as pyukumuku and passimian
Snowman is likely crabrawler2, Dolphin is one of the Tapus.
So no Komala Evolution?? And what about the Snowman and dolphin pokemon? They were also in the same leak as Pyukumuku and Passimian
They were not in the data mining for the demo, not the full games, which we will probably see them in!
That’s highly unlikely
Why would they have anything other then what’s been shown via this datamined here which is basically everything
CoroCoro has shared a video of the first trial in Pokémon Sun on their official YouTube channel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rADvOOpsSAM&feature=youtu.be
Nice, he had a secret crabrawler in the end…
I feel like this pokedex isn’t complete. Not because it’s small but because there is no mention of the other Tapu’s (and we know that there are others). That seems strange to me. But I may be wrong and they might just be one of the Pokemon revealed but with no context we wouldn’t know they were Tapus
The other Tapus were leaked
I swear they better not be all Fairies
That Bull one is my absolute last chance for a Ground/Fighting type
I do have a feeling they’ll all be part fairy unfortunately
Says who, one of them is part fairies its poor assumption that they all are
They all look a bit cute
I know. I’m getting tired of this fairy typing. It’s already outnumbering classic types. When fairies were announced I thought they live up to the occult that they are and be scarce.
The bull as ground/fighting would be awesome!
That’s an exaggeration, there’s still way more normal types than everything else.
It’s not an exaggeration at this point they outnumber at least Ghost/ice and possibly now dark. :/
Ah, you don’t mean “all” but “some” classic types. Carry on.
Well dark and ghost are probably lumped in one category which GF balances with all other types.
And Ice is getting bad treatement all the time.
Yeah, didn’t all. 🙂
Ghost and Dark are two out of my three favorite types. (Psychic being the third). It makes me sad that there wasn’t a confirmed new Dark type.
Well we have 3-4 ghost evo lines at least…
But fat fuckng chance I’ll get one now…..
This means I have to wait until gen 8! And that’s super freaking long for something that should’ve been made years ago….
They’ll share the elemental type with the oricorios, and Fairy.
Psychic/Fairy
Electric/Fairy
Ghost/Fairy
Fire/Fairy.
Like I’ve been saying since Oricorio.
Never mind then :/ it’s stuff like this that makes me truly detest the Pokemon fandom sometimes… Like why can’t people just be patient -___-
Error 404 on the other thread… what did I miss!? Lol
Hi! Yep it got wiped off the face of the earth. But you can still access the stuff we talked about here.
Darn! I knew I shouldn’t have gone to sleep! Sigh. Lol
Yeah, the leaks include images of the entire dex (scroll down a bit), plus some moves.
Oh, people have been posting them here? Cool!
I believe this is the full Dex but it’d be funny if GF planned all of this so that we’d still be shocked by new Pokémon in the final game lol
i rly hope thats the case. I would be very dissapointed if thats all the new mons we get.
Don’t hold your breath.
Am I the only one who thinks Diglett and Dugtrio are Ground/Grass. The hair feels like it’s supposed to be some plant that grew due to Alola’s climate
As long as they’re ground
All I have for my Ground Mono is
Mudsdale
Pallosand
Ground Silvally
And that’s it
I need at least 2-3 more to be full
Are you going to use any old Pokémon at all or nah?
Absolutely not
If I wanted to use old Pokemon I’d play they game they debuted in
That’s why Gen 5 is forever the best
SO MANY GROUND
I was referring to how they forced us to use new Pokemon
Don’t forget Alolan golem (unless there’s a type change)
It’s rock/electric. Didn’t keep the correct type.
How do you know
Well to be fair no Alola Form so far has kept its original typing (even Alolan Raichu had Psychic added on) and it has what appears to be a railgun on its back, as well as being theorised to be drawing metal to itself via magnetic capabilities.
Maybe. I think their designs are quite lazy. I liked Alola forms which completely changed type like nine tails and sandslash more
they are bit lazy but its really funny
What is the Pokemon count ( excluding alolas and the horrendous UBs?
Who else is feeling more hyped about Tsareena? Since Tsareena is one of the few Pokémon with a three staged evolution line it must be pretty powerful.
Am I reading this right? Ash Pikachu? As in they took that one episode of Johto where he accidentally got turned into a Pikachu by a witch and they made a real Pokemon out of it?
As in he wears Ash’s hats lol
Awww…..I liked my idea more.
So i’ve seen all the pokemon in a link from the comment section but are the names revealed too ?
Nah there weren’t name leaks since dex data was scrubbed clean and were replaced by pikachu data. GF only forgot to remove images.
Ah i thought some guy in the comment section used names i haven’t seen before they looked like they could be the final evo of litten and crabrawler’s evo
They were just guessing/making up names sadly.
People who don’t wanna guess just call it things like Crabrawler2 or something.
after alot of complaining and raging, i’ve come to my senses im ok with this now, all the pokemon this gen are greatly designed imo none of them feel lazy except some alolan forms but thats just me, i cant wait for sun and moon now
Is marshadow that little ball of fluff?
yep
I hope so. Lol
Yeah but I guess it’s other forms might not be in the code or maybe that is its only form? Idk
It looks a good contender to be Dark/Fairy
Alolan Persian looks like it’s been stung in the face by a Vespiquen…
Vespiquen confirmed for Alola dex?
i mean atleast it looks different instead of being persian but purple
I was hoping it would be grey but alive an Egyptian vibe going for it
Does anyone think Pikipek’s final evo might be a Dark/Flying-Type?
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They look surprisingly vicious for toucans e-e
Im still surprised pikipek becomes a toucan
Keep dreaming bub it ain’t happening
Oh shush, people thought
Komala was going to evolve and Type: Null wasn’t
And its just harmless speculation :/
*runs off crying*
Fairy! Did you see Wimpod’s evolution!? 😀 Definitely sticking with Wimpod for my story!
Wimpod’s evo is top notch for its narrative 😀
I love that little guy! It makes me happy they did it justice! :*D
This one disappoints…
Marshadow looks exactly how I pictured my Lullabye idea.
-79 new Pokemon
-around 80% revealed before release
-reports of demo running like crap on Old 3ds systems
-Ash-Pikachu
MMMMMMMMM
I thought this would be a regular morning but not at all! This is awesome! I’m so excited for this game!
So, the Riddler was right for the most part, but wrong for some details.
Such as the toucan being Pikipek all along.
Oh puhlease the moment Dexio had a toucan shirt everyone thought a Toucan would appear
Saying it was the riddler makes you a blind faithed sheep
You must be the one who’s blind, becuase nowhere did they mention the Riddler was the one who revealed the toucan.
The Riddler did, however, add it to his list of hints that have all been correct so far, but did not put it beside Pikipek like he put the staff next to Jangmo-o.
You’re all nuts
Says the one denying the guy who consistently hinted at Pokémon that turned out true
Dude there are so many things he got right. It’s not a matter of worshipping a leaker. It’s a matter of acknowledging the objective reality.
No I mean, when the riddler added the toucan, he added it midway, instead of after Pikipek, which is what would have been logical
Pikipek turns into the toucan? :/
Sadly,. though I did put that in a spoilertag so you didn’t have to sadden yourself.
Oh, oops. 😛
It makes no sense. Oh well, we still have staraptor and talonflame
And Swellow, beautiful Swellow.
What about Aristotle
Yes exactly, where does that come in, it’s strange. He may have thrown in some false stuff, or most of it was just very lucky guesswork.
i just LOVE wimpod’s evo! i knew it’s evolution would be epic! it’s alot like magikarp in that department 🙂 definitely having it on my team 😀
Reminds me of those things from Star Wars, that curl into balls and shoot you
Wimpod to Wimpgod!
I call it Carapod
Carapod, eh? Sounds like a legitimate name.
I would like other Pokejunglers thought on this speculation of mine:
The transition from Crabrawler to Yeti Crabrawler seems kind of…odd. This is probably what the Chinese leaker meant by Snowman but I am not sure if Crabrawler will get an ice typing along with it’s fighting typing. Since it is already a crab I would have expected it to be water/fighting but that didn’t happen-that could be due to its design being a land-based crab. Nevertheless, I don’t see any other viable ice types in this gen of Pokémon (besides Alola forms) so I am hoping that Yeti Crabrawler is Ice/Fighting. It probably grew this “fur coat” (correct me if it is not actually a fur coat) in response to cold conditions. However, this flavor text leads to the problem of how it is going to evolve because most of Alola is pretty warm so there wouldn’t be a need to get a fur coat. Thus, it is in my opinion that Crabrawler evolves with the Ice Stone which has already been revealed and is probably used to evolve Alola Vulpix.
I can dig it
Alaskan King Crabs
Yeti Crabs
i´m curious that this is the whole dex .. still haven´t found the guardian which looks like the strange souvenir .. moreover .. there are still some open spaces in the demo-dex (if i can belive the rumour)
So I’m assuming that we can caputre Ultra Beasts since they each have Shiny Forms
Yes. But I never will
Well, you can’t capture the UFO, Brycenman and Eternal Floette and they all have shiny forms…
For my fairy type mono
Popplio3
Morellul2
Cutiefly2 / tapu pokemon
Comfey
Mimikyu
Alolan ninetails
Truth be told there aren’t really THAT MANY new fairy types. I think people are pissed only because there are less total pokemon.
I hope either a psychic or electric terrain based team is viable for VGC. I wanna use Alola Raichu 🙂
Well, Tapu Koko and Alolan Raichu might work. Especially if Alolan Raichu learns Surf.
I’m a competitor, and if it works, even in just the Battle Facility, I’ll let everyone know.
I’m dissappointed. It seem the total Pokemon is going to be just above 800, so only ~80 new ones. Not sure if this counts Alolans or UBs.
That’s sad. Also no new steel types worth using. 2 legendaries and a Pikachu Clone.
So you think Alolan Sandslash isn’t worth using?
Also if you want you can use Steel Sivally.
So that’s 5 steels already…
6 Legendaries. The Tapus.
He means steel types.
The two steel legendaries are Solgaleo and Magearna.
Ooooh. My B. Dur.
It’s a shame. But we still have the graphics and story to look forwards ro! And many of the new Pokemon are great, it’s just there’s not many so people are going to have similar teams.
I don’t think we have everything… Because After reviewing the appearance of all the models for the leaked pokemon, none bare even the SLIGHTEST resemblance to the Strange Souvenir from Pokemon X and Y and ORAS. Not even any of the Tapu’s look like the Strange Souvenir…
I’m hoping GF were smart enough to keep a some secrets away from the demo. But it does look grim.
I saw the Pokémon Anazon accidentally leaked and it seemed to be based on a sea urchin
I’m actually glad we’re getting roughly the same amount of new Pokémon as last gen. GF clearly wants us to get rid of our expectations from the old days. I’m sure it’s a headache recreating all the Pokémon with every new graphical jump. If they had done 100+ then the following gen when they did 99- again everyone would be pissed again. Now we can just come to terms with reality and get back to being excited!
Nintendo is still on a whole a bit behind other games and consolesin terms of graphics :/ Wii U Pokemon game!
Not really what I was talking about. Nintendo’s lack of desire to compete in the WHOAH GRAPHIX war doesn’t bother me. Call of Duty might be pretty but it’s boring AF. Gimme Mario Galaxy any and every day of the week over Assassin’s Creed or Halo.
I think the anchor could be a steel type. It reminds of Klingklang. By it’s design I am guessing Steel, Steel/Water, Steel/Grass, of Steel/Ghost are possible typing a it could have. Steel Steel Steel.
Loving some of these new Pokemon. The Alola designs are really making me lol. Dugtrio now would make any mega Ampharos jealous 😉
I wonder if someone already drew Mega Amphabulous dueling with Alolan Dugtrio…
Has anyone Considered the Strange Souvenir in all thise? After looking at all the Models it really seems to me like we might not be getting everything… Because i know for a fact that None of the Tapu’s, Solgaleo, or Lunaala look like the strange souvenir…
The Anchor guy maybe
I doubt it.
Yea I said that without really realizing what we were talking about. I’m tired lmao
I feel like the strange souvenir is more a hint to hawaii
The text of the Strange Souvenir literally says this. “An ornament depicting a Pokémon that is venerated as a protector in some region far from Kalos.” It sounds like its referencing the Tapu’s but none look like it…
It probably isn’t accurate but tapu koko is masked at least…
True but the Strange Souvenir IS Depicted as a Smiling Ape like creature.
And none of the Tapu’s appear to have a smiling ape appearance, i could be wrong though.
If I’m stretching it a bit I think it just represents the fact they got a mask or stuff… but yeah not looking like it…
I’d be surprised if they can keep a secret. Or if they remembered to remove the two other event Pokemon…
I doubt the mythic pokemon were reveled. We didn’t get Hoopa and Valcanion until after a few patches. I think there will be at least 3 more Mythics if Marshadow is one, then 2. I think there will be a Tapu of the 5th Island as one Hawaiian Island was never used in Alola.
BTW, Magearna is already Mythic Pokemon #1…
It may be a Mythical. We have only seen Magearna and Marshadow, there bound to be another.
Or All 4 Guardians forms to make it?
Maybe… but we would have to see… The appearance is a Smiling Ape creature…
is here litten’s funeral?
No. I like Litten line
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Hey so the demo came out in Japan and some people managed to datamine it already now I wont show you anything spoiler wise but I do want to show you that the final evolved forms are confermed %100
Still a spoiler.
I don’t think anyone still believed they were fake though
Ohhhh you have no idea how many people were still in denial even with the overwhelming amount of proof that these were legit
I was in denial but deep down I knew they were legit haha
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wow the tiger is buff this season.
While the seemingly small amount of new pokemon is a little disappointing, I gotta say they made some really cool additions. And why is no one talking about the weird metroid spider???
Well it doesn’t have a name so it is hard to talk about it… and yes some people are talking about adding it to their team and comparing it to Aliens.
I’m excited to find out what its story is. So weird looking.
Yeah, I wonder if there’ll even be a trailer for it…
At least in ORAS the info stopped coming out after the demo but I heard there will be more soon.
I’ve talked a ton about it… Like how I need it in my life :3
I was fiddling in the demo a bit more, and was wondering if Jungle’s still updating their posts with info found in the demo, and if they wanted anything from it in regards to the Z-Stones/Moves at all?
sorry to be a pain haha :’) still trying to figure out what the community here is actually interested inSure dude, just mark it with a spoiler tag 1st.
I actually think the starters look really nice in the game 🙂 The 3d is alot better than the artwork. Im happy enough 🙂
okay so my team can go two different ways.. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1529cf9d419626fbd013a59c9ea88855f5f7dfe783ac6ca1edcdc8fde742d338.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/89f00e53ddf6d5514e3687387751f9f462e6b5614b31538d7d71136758c20872.jpg
That’s more than half my team
Great trainers think alike lol
More that this region is lacking bruisers which is my natural style
Agreed.
Kommo-O is the only bruiser you need.(besides Toughpod)
So mono water run.
Popplio, Wishiwashi, Pyukumuku, Bruxish, Wimpod, Sivally
There, it barely fits.
-__- it’s not fair….I haven’t had a full 6 Mono team since Sinnoh…..
Change type. 🙁
Also there’s enough bruisers so at least that’s good.
Why I don’t think I will use rowlet3 ever
Player x sent out Rowlet 3
Player y sent out Weavile( life orb )
Player x switched out
Weavile used sword dance
Weavile used knock off
Weavile used low kick
Weavile used Ice shard/icicle crash
It will die to any ice attack but them Ice Shards are its worst nightmare
Opponent had Weavile on team. Let me send out Rowlet 3 as my first Pokemon. Hurr Durr.
Rowlet having 4x weakness to ice means it’s useless. Weavile having 4x Weakness to Fighting….it’s ok, still amazing Pokemon.
Well to be fair the first entry is random which makes or breaks a game
And that can happen regardless of the Pokemon. The opponent send out Weavile I send out Conkeldur or Scizor. I win that time. Next game something else happens and I lose the match up.
It’s part of the game.
If the scenario above did happen I would assess my team and my opponents team and probably just attack with Rowlet 3 to prevent the set up, if I didn’t have anything to handle a +2 Weavile
Same logic could be used on Salamence. Its viability not only depends on typing, movesets and stats heavily factor in as well.
You are overexaggerating. OU is full of 4x weak Pokemon and Weavile is even one of them.
I couldn’t help myself. Not sure what to think.
None of us do
Scary nightmare hacked Pokemon
quagsire with sap sipper (leftovers)
cosmic power
Aromatherapy
Swagger
Toxic
Substitute Klefki and Mega Sableye can beat that though…
https://d.ibtimes.co.uk/en/full/1559304/pokemon-sun-moon-leak.png?w=736
So the starters only have one evolution, not two like first thought with Rockruff. So what makes them connected is not the evolution. There’s something more that we are yet to understand.
Where does it even say that the starters have something in common with lycanroc?
It was a CoroCoro leak that came with the initial leak of Rockruff.
Or it could be a simple mistranslation as has been stated multiple times, but drowned in all the hype.
Maybe they all have unique Z moves?
I guess the days of +100 new Pokemon are gone then?
Well, if you think about it, we have 8 Ultra Beasts, 18 Alolan Forms, and 81 new Pokémon, so that’s not bad.
Hey Dicie, has it been confirmed that UBs are catchable?
I’m not entirely sure, but I would lean towards no.
Why have shiny forms then?
UFO from pokestar studios has a shiny form….
It appears as while we do have all of the SM Pokémon, not all of the models made it into the files.
my team for now https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2ed88b2009a11aa0425b687528031e1dceb2878b99f3df17a1765b63b31d07de.jpg
Why so many fire types? its my fav type along side Dragon but just wondering..
I am so freaking excited for this game.
In all honesty how many people do y’all think got fired yesterday???
I think it is still the same day for them.
Yeah you’re right.
can some one tell me if the usa gets the pokemon demo
So no new fossils, mediocre amount of legends, lots of standalones and no new Megas.
One day, we’ll get that Stego fossil poke.
We have at least 8 legends already… that’s mediocre?
Whimpods evo is basically exactly like I predicted: a mirelurk from fallout. Also, Alolan geodude line sucks, and alolan persian is SO disappointing.
Alolan Persian makes me shudder. Alola Golem’s tinier arms are… unexpected.
Wimpod though is awesome!
Wimpod is indeed awesome. is there no evo for komala…?
As of now? No idea.
Shudder Mirelurks always gave me troubles…or was that fire ants
On the whole, I’m disappointed with Alolan forms. It seemed like a good idea but they’ve come poorly designed and uninspired.
Yeah… Not sure why they didn’t go with an above-the-surface diglett tbh.
They’re a bit mixed. Some are great (Vulpix, Ninetales). Some, like Dugtrio…lol no.
DUGTRIO IS FAB AND YOU KNOW IT! HOW DARE YOU!
They just literally slapped a wig on it. gamefreak…living up to their nickname ‘trollfreak’ xD
It ain’t a wig. You know it, I know it, Glenn Cocoa knows it.
I do like the earlier released ones. Can’t say the same for the new ones.
Give credit to Muk, it’s coloring actually has relevance
(team skull paint anyone?)
Yeah they exexcuted this idea all wrong
This is not the whole Pokedex. There’s gonna be at least 100 Pokémon same gen 2. Komala, Turtonator, Drampa, Passimian, and Oranguru evos, the fossil Pokémon, and the dolphin, snowman, and strange souvenir Pokémon are yet to be shown. In the upcoming video on oct 27 is when we are gonna to figure things out. This pokedex is incomplete. Gotta be….
https://m.popkey.co/04b12a/Zmqor_s-200×150.gif (rf)
Shiny Zygarde and Starters https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6d197903f2693ef6c84442b491f21283d3d11dad6b3520e89ffe7eb019699426.png
Rowlet continues to remain the best
I GOT LITTEN RIGHT
I pointed that out last night! XD Nicely done!
Mods should remove or spoilerize the pic though…
Why? We’re on an article entitled ‘sun moon demo leaks new Pokemon’ that clearly warns in red ‘spoilers in the comment section’. if you’re here and expecting to not be spoiled, you’re in the wrong place 😛
Finally saw all the leaks, kinda disappointed that we got so few Pokemon again this generation.
By the looks of things, my team will look something like Rowlet final, Mudsdale, Salandit final, Alolan Ninetales, Crabrawler final (if it doesn’t turn part Water type to affect my next choice), and Wimpod final.
My god, Wimpod final was the best thing in the leak.
Agreed, after seeing his evo i decided to put him back on my team
I feel like this is starting to become a trend. Didn’t somebody on the Pokemon team said that they felt like they were making too many Pokemon to keep up with? I feel like this will be a pattern. Under a 100 Pokemon each gen along with some new forms or megas to compensate ugh.
People can’t argue that Alolan forms are new pokemon.
It’s a very, very lazy excuse.
They kind of *are* new Pokemon, though. New artwork, new type, new movepool. New evolution method, for some.
They’re a stretch at best.
So what’s the secret Rockruff shares with the starters? Slip evos for them are out of the picture, right?
Their secret was never said to be shared, just that they all have ond.
I hope there’s a comment below with all the pictures. As much as I don’t want spoiled, I want to see. ..
Check Kaphotics channel on YT
I have a pic, but I’m not sure if I’m allowed to post it. 😛 Serebii’s FB page has it in the comment sections of Alola Dugtrio’s thread.
https://sli.mg/a/4HOcnq
Whoa…can anyone link me to pictures of all these things?
Kaphotics channel on YT, 3 part video with all pics or check verlisifys video, there is a link in description
never say that name here
Ok
We don’t talk about that edgy, juvenile trashlord here.
It is on the 2nd part of the video with the 3rd part having the shinies.
https://sli.mg/a/4HOcnq
So live in Est and I can’t find the demo in Eshop. I know we can’t play it until 10:00 am, but does that also mean it can’t be found on the Eshop through conventional means? Also do we need to know our password to purchase the demo, because I seem to have forgotten mine.
it’s going live in half an hour
Thanks for the clarification.
Thank you for that earthen! I was pissed seeing everyone else on YouTube playing that I knew was in America lol
I just saw the whole leaked Pokedex. That’s a whole lot to chew in one morning.
https://hi-chew.s3.amazonaws.com/assets/sticks/strawberry-dec9518657d2f5fd9e7f90c3312e3345.png
Whole lot to chew?
We only got, like ten more.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvCdee6WYAAvwOE.jpg:large
Here’s the entire dex so far (spoilers)
Not counting UBs and Alolan Forms, there’s 73 new Pokémon…they couldn’t even bring it up to 800..
there is also mons whos pic werent part of the leaked pokedex images
Is that confirmed that we don’t know every single new Pokémon yet?
yea dataminers found black spots near some pokemon
I still live by Quality over Quantity and Gen 7 Doesn’t disappoint
At least there’s still moves and abilities that we don’t know about yet.
I was hoping for more Pokemon this time around, I won’t lie. I understood the 6th gen was small because GF were focusing on megas, as well as the massive transition to the 3D engine…I hoped that now they had that figured out, they could give us a nice big juicy dex.
Don’t get me wrong, quality over quantity is nice. But 20 or so more Pokemon (and NOT Alola forms) would have been nice, too.
Maybe it just feels underwhelming because they showed us so much of it in the pre-release? I kept thinking ‘they’re showing us so much…that must mean they’re holding back that much more!’
thats the only thing i agree with they showed too much
So apparently, these are all the Sinnoh Pokémon in the Alola Dexes.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6d75c20777ee2b6bb6171548127991a28200582a0373a9af42f7b0217d103e38.jpg
I smell a remaaaaaake
😛
Where did you find this?
PokéLoot on Twitter, they show every Pokémon in the Alola Dex by generational order.
Thanks!
it shows 7 hidden mons in gen 7 i wonder what they are
Judging by the order they’re in they’re probably totems: they’re after Gumshoos, Lurantis and Alolan Raticate.
I too am curious! I want to know where the dots are, like which Pokémon they’re next to
Skourpi no 🙁
My boy Drifloon
I hope so, I LOVED gen 4, a lot, like a crazy lot, and getting good remakes would make me super happy.
Not giving Komala and Pyukumuku evolutions is so stupid.
And WHAT HAVE THEY DONE TO PIKIPEK.
No new ice or dark types.. Pretty disappointing dex. And no, the alola forms or UBs don’t count. I want actual new Mon.
Litten3 and the Yeti Crab
I forgot about them but, we still don’t have a proper ice and a proper dark evolutionary line.
Am I the only one who likes Litten3? Lol
I actually like it now, thanks to the ingame model. Hated it before
i love it, its slowly becoming my favorite starter
Yes!
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e92eb92a859288444d5083ea75cc863d08304b37666140265d65fec2afcdede1.gif
Nope,I’m in the minority too.I like the final evo of Litten
the only issue i have is that alot pokemon are one stage that looks in-complete
Yes.
Komala and Pyukumuku are begging for an evolution
Also a problem Kalos had.
Not really. There were only 5 pokémon with no evolutionary relatives in Gen 6 (not counting legendaries). This gen has a lot more than 5.
I mean maybe there is still a chance these are not all the sprites? I might be wrong but that’s what I think
Does anyone know if the Sun and Moon demo is live for North America? Specifically est time zone? I’m on the Eshop and can’t find it 🙁 or do I need to type in something specific?
13 mins
thank you!
13 mins but alot of people are gonna be jumping on so expect a little traffic
As long as it doesn’t take longer than 30 minutes than I am cool.
Thank you!
I wonder what happened to fossil Pokemon.
Not every new Pokémon was found in the code. Some had black spots by them. There’s still hope.
Thank goodness. That means hope for komala and pyukumuku too I guess.
Honestly I never saw Pyukumuku as getting an evo. It’s definitely in that same “team sadblob” camp as Dunsparce and Stunfisk.
Yes but komala needs one.
Please don’t say that
Stego fossil, c’mon gf!
Wait so it’s without a doubt confirmed that we don’t know everything?!? Is there a link to where the black dots were on the pokedex or which Pokémon they were next to?
Hawaii has an extremely limited fossil record, as well as the fact that it’s not the first gen to leave them out
Even then the Region doesn’t always determine the fossil Pokemon, I mean, T Rex didn’t live in France, we got Tyrantrum.
They could be channeling more inspiration from the locale though.
They could, just mentioning that it’s not always the case
I’ve been trying to tell people that lol!
It looks like Unova and Sinnoh fossils are in the game.
I meant new ones
No, I doubt it. Nothing resembles a fossil pokemon in the leaked dex.
I hope Pop3 is water/fairy with insane spec.attk and speed.
i hope its not
Earthen, you’re with me on them ruining golem, right?
absolutely
Incorrect, golem looks great.
it looks beyond stupid, i’m the leading authoritah on Ground and Rocks types and this is a big mess
Good thing design is subjective and not objective 😛
you’re a fool
Alola forms are probably one of the coolest concepts they’ve introduced, but they’ve been executed so poorly that I hate them.
very poorly
There’s like one I don’t completely hate, and even then it’s not perfect. I thought maybe after Alolan Muk they’d be on the upswing, but no.
some make good sense but it quickly began as more of a re-skin wishlist instead of environmental adaptations
I could maybe get over it if the designs were at least good, but they’re overall not.
Thank you, my worst is the argument that they are new considered ‘new’ pokemon when some are just re-skins.
What’s with those arms, right?
What’s with its everything. Ugh
Haha!
I’ll join you on that.
It was terrible to begin with.
At least it was decent to look at though. I’m not even sure what’s going on with it now. It’s hideous
I really hope it isn’t defensive(which it looks like it is probably going to be) then again, with Litten and rowlet looks like we have 2 phys attackers so…who knows.
It’s almost certainly going to be defensive, based off Popplio’s stats.
It works to its advantage though, it’ll only have three weaknesses and an Immunity.
So, let me get this straight. We have all the Pokemon datamined. But the Stats and Typings were all scrubbed clean by Game Freak. Is that right?
Yes
I don’t see a Snowman or Dolphin in there like the Chinese Leaker said. And I downloaded the mediafire file, some files were blank.
Snowman: Crabrawler evo
Dolphin: purple Tapu
The dolphin looks more like a marlin.
I agree, it’s a huge stretch, but you can’t deny that the leaker was right
Dolphin-Poni Guardian
Snowman-Yeti Crab
Ninja’d
That’s just messed up.
Ehhhhh the Guardian maybe, but the Chinese word for snowman/Yeti are identical (?) and the person who does most of the Chinese translation explicitly said it could be a yeti.
I understand the yeti crab but I’m having a hard time with the guardian.
According to some the snowman is the yeti crab and dolphin is he tapu guardian
Most of the new Pokémon datamined. There are still some left we don’t know about. But not much.
dude that’s everything
EastGovnah said that blank spots appeared on certain files amongst the other sprites. It’s very possible we don’t know of them all.
show me then
There’s a few blank spots after Mimikyu that most likely won’t be totems but beyond that all the blanks are probably totems.
And I’m fairly sure one of them after Mimikyu is just its disguise broken.
So a couple close got spoiled for me because I did it to myself and looked at them. (Mainly pikipeks evo and a quick glimpse at salandit’s) I didn’t look too close but how is the toucan any different from a real toucan design wise? I know some pokemon resemble their real life counterparts quite a bit (Persian and krabby for instance) but I like when pokemon take inspiration (like zebstrika) and spin it on its head.
Also, NO NEW ICE OR DARK TYPES? Are you kidding me? Is this the first gen to actually leave out types in the new dex?
Crabrawler evo will likely be Fighting/Ice, and that weird new spider thing could potentially be part Dark. Maybe Marshadow, too?
I’m pissed too. That weird jellyfish spider walker thing could maybe be dark type though..
I speculated there might be an Ice type, and the typings were not leaked for the Pokémon leaked, so a dark type is rather easy to throw on a Pokémon.
I’m pretty pissed off at data miners since now that we know all the Mon, the hype is dead.
We have news on the 27th (I think) but who Cares, we already know everything
To be fair, you could’ve tried to avoid it
I did.
I wanted to see what people thought of the demo, since NA hasn’t gotten it yet,but all I saw was people talking about the data mining.. Then I just couldn’t resist. :
Not everything. Some Pokémon appeared as black spots in the datamining. Also, there’s still plenty we don’t know of in new attacks, abilities, story, and postgame.
Really? ELABORATE PLEASE
A few spots after Mimikyu were blank.
They are speculating those are for totem Pokémon. It is uncertain and if it is I personally wonder why there are two after Mimikyu and not just one.
Names, typings…potential story hits. THere’s a lot left.
I enjoyed the demo but I liked the format of the ORAS demo better, where you could turn it on (what was it, like 3 times) and do a mission every time? This one felt a little dull in comparison. I did like that they let you wander around looking at the pretty graphics, though 🙂
Npcs talk about things happening in certain amount of days
I assumed that was just to give you a gift on certain days. I could be wrong though, if it’s a new mission that’d be awesome.
When does it come out for East coast states in US?
Should be now.
Mine says nothing about it
This was a bit tricky without the names or types of new pokemon, but all the new pokemon in a list with type speculation
Alola Pokedex:
New Pokemon:
Rowlett (Grass/Flying)
Dartix (Grass/Flying)
Unknown Rowlett Evolution 2 (Grass/Flying)
Litten (Fire)
Torracat (Fire)
Unknown Litten Evolution 2 (Fire/Unknown)
Popplio (Water)
Brionne (Water)
Unknown Popplio Evolution 2 (Water/Unknown)
Pikipek (Normal/Flying)
Unknown Pikipek Evolution 1 (Unknown)
Unknown Pikipek Evolution 2 (Unknown)
Grubbin (Bug/Electric)
Charjabug (Bug/Electric)
Vikavolt (Bug/Electric)
Yungoos (Normal)
Gumshoos (Normal)
Oricorio (Fire,Electric,Psychic,Ghost/Flying)
Rockruff (Rock)
Lycanroc (Midday Form: Rock, Midnight Form: Rock)
Komala (Normal)
Morelull (Grass/Fairy)
Morlull Evolution (Grass/Fairy) Most likely Grass/Fairy anyway
Bounsweet (Grass)
Stenee (Grass)
Tsareena (Grass)
Cutiefly (Bug/Fairy)
Ribonbee (Bug/Fairy)
Togedemaru (Electric/Steel)
Formantis (Grass)
Lurantis (Grass)
Comfey (Fairy)
Mudbray (Ground)
Mudsdale (Ground)
Salandit (Poison/Fire)
Salandit Evolution (Poison/Fire) most likely Poison/Fire anyway
Stuffel (Normal/Fighting)
Bewear (Normal/Fighting)
Mimikyu (Ghost/Fairy)
Sandygast (Ghost/Ground)
Palossand (Ghost/Ground)
Wishawashi (Water)
Pyukumuku (Water)
Wimpod (Water/Bug)
Wimpod Evolution (Water/Bug) It better stay Water/Bug, Masquerain dissapointed not been
Bruxish (Water/Psychic)
Minior (Rock/Flying)
Turtonator (Fire/Dragon)
Crabrawler (Fighting)
Crabrawler Evolution (Fighting/Unknown) Probably Fighting/Ice
Type:Null (Normal)
Silvally (Normal)
Jangmo-o (Dragon)
Hakamo-o (Dragon/Fighting)
Kommo-o, (Dragon/Fighting)
Passimian (Fighting)
Oranguru (Normal/Psychic)
Drampa (Normal/Dragon)
Unknown Sea Urchin (Unknown) – Water/Grass? Water/Poison? Poison/Grass?
Unknown Sea Urchin Evolution (Unknown)Water/Grass? Water/Poison? Poison/Grass?
Unknown Pond Skater thing Pokemon (Unknown) I like Bug/Electric, though Water is an option, as is Dark
Unknown Evolution of that Pokemon (Unknown) I like Bug/Electric, though Water is an option, As is Dark.
Unknown Anchor Pokemon (Unknown) Steel/Ghost perhaps? Maybe Dark.
Tapu Koko (Electric/Fairy)
Unknown Guardian 2 (Psychic/Fairy) (Assuming they all share Fairy)
Unknown Guardian 3 (Fire/Fairy) (Assuming they all share Fairy)
Unknown Guardian 4 (Ghost/Fairy) (Assuming they all share Fairy)
(Solgaleo Pre Evolution (Unknown) Might not even be a pre evo)
Solgaleo (Steel/Psychic)
(Lunala Pre Evolution (Unknown) Might not even be a pre evo)
Lunala (Ghost/Psychic)
Magearna (Steel/Fairy)
Marshadow (Unknown) It’s said to have a Unique Type, based on Looks, Dark/Fairy, Dark/Normal, Ghost/Normal or Poison/Psychic probably.
Alolan Variant:
Exeggcutor Alola Form (Grass/Dragon)
Vulpix Alola Form (Ice)
Ninetales Alola Form (Ice/Fairy)
Sandshrew Alola Form (Ice/Steel)
Sandslash Alola Form (Ice/Steel)
Marowak Alola Form (Fire/Ghost)
Meowth Alola Form (Dark)
Persian Alola Form (Dark/Unknown)
Raichu Alola Form (Electric/Psychic)
Rattata Alola Form (Dark/Normal)
Raticate Alola Form (Dark/Normal)
Grimer Alolan Form (Poison/Dark)
Muk Alola Form (Poison/Dark)
Diglett Alola Form (Ground/Unknown) The Hair gives no clues
Dugtrio Alola Form (Ground/Unknown) The Hair gives no clues, but could be Electric or Normal or maybe the new Hansen type)
Geodude Alola Form (Unknown) – I’d say Rock/Electric
Graveler Alola Form (Unknown) – I’d say Rock/Electric
Golem Alola Form (Unknown) – I’d say Rock/Electric
I’m still not sure on UB’s being catchable, though they may have types to make it easier to battle them, 1 has an electricy look, and ub-02 is buggy so.
still says coming soon for me
Same here :
Keep refreshing, It might not happen on the dot. In Europe it went live at 10 minutes past the hour.
Try to turn off the 3ds or the e-shop and try again, worked for me this morning.
I’m still trying and it’s failed 4 times only says coming soon
I’m trying to get on the eshop myself xD
I’ve seen the dexter pokemin, but still can’t find the alola forns…
Who would’ve thought Wimpod turned out to be one of the best lines in the dex?
I’m really happy with that evo. Easily one of my favorite new pokemon and bug types. I really want to use it on my team but I want to use Vikavolt too….and watch that spider walker be dark/bug too..
I have the same thing. Really don’t know if I wanna use Vikavolt or the evo. If its Bug-typing would disappear, I’d use them both
I doubt it will though, it looks pretty isopod-ish haha.
Ehhh, Drapion exists
That’s fair. Although I hope they don’t squander bug/water AGAIN
Not me. .. . I still don’t think it 0=]
I knew it was destined for greatness!
Anything on Kalos?
met locations says Kalos Region but i think thats for ash greninja
Damn.
So wouldn’t the UB’s having shiny forms imply they’re catchable?
No, everything that can be fought needs to have a shiny, otherwise the game would crash.
Hm, that’s weird. I wonder if they’ll be shiny locked then
pokestar studios?
They had shiny versions as well.
no they dont, only mecha tyrantiar because thats part of the story, if u can find the shinies then show me because i cant find them
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_Black_2_and_White_2_beta
Some of the enemies that appear twice, like the fighter (recolor of normal fighter), the doors (two colors exist so it’s fine), etc.
oh ok point proven, thanks
One of the worst ideas of GameFreak in the past 20 years:
Ultra Beasts
You haven’t even played the game yet
Maybe complain after you actually know the backstory and purpose
I can complain
whenever I want
That’s nice
you’re making yourself look silly though
And that’s something I
really don’t care about
Good for you
bye
Why the
attitude
I’m not trying to have an attitude
I think it’s mostly the bold text
The UBs looks better than most of the new pokémon. But if he doesn’t like them, he can complain as much as he want, you have nothing to do with that.
Idk, I think the concept is interesting. Alolan forms have been bad though.
I’m not a huge fan at the moment but I’m going to wait until they game is released until I pass my judgement.
I’m waiting until I see how they are used in story before I decide
So the leaked starter evos are real….Rowlet.
It’s 7 minutes past 7 and It still says coming soon. Getting impatient here
Wimpod and Sandile’s evolutions look horrible, in my opinion.
Wimpod’s evolution looks like some kind of deformed isopod and it looks like they added the bipedal body as a last minute after thought.
And Sandile’s evolution looks like a seductive hooker lizard.
And no real Snowman Pokemon or Dolphin Pokemon. Just a Tapu Guardian and and a Yeti.
How fucking dissapointing!
wrong.
Leave Krokorok alone.
I personally like both evolutions.
Dude…don’t hate on Krookodile 😛
Where’s this yeti pokemon?
Crawbrawlers evo is a yeti crab
Oh…is it ice/fighting maybe?
Hopefully, it’ll give us a new ice type..
I at least think the design is decent.
it had better freaking be or we wont have any new ice types this gen.
The words for yeti and snowman are identical in Chinese iirc, so that one isn’t on the leaker, it’s on the fans for hyping themselves over an uncertainty.
sandile’s evolution is krookodile who is awesome.
Now I’m just imagening Krookodile as a hooker
Dont know wether to laugh or get eye bleach
What’s your opinion on Salandit’s evo? 🙂
awesome, especially the shiny, its one of the best shinies in the game.
Certainly fits my theme for sure, so I’m relieved.
Could of it been better? Yes. Do I like it? Yeah. Am I gonna use it!? HECK YES FAIRY NEED DAT HOOKER LIZARD RIGHT NOW
Lol! Delightful. I may use the hooker lizard on my femme fatale group.
Is hookerlizard going to become a thing?
I really want it to become a thing e-e
Let’s trend it!
Hey you take that back, Krookodile is awesome!
Krookodile is awesome. Salandits evo is also pretty cool, better than the shit I saw floating around for it
“Seductive hooker lizard”. Looooooooooooool ?? but yeah I don’t like it either what a let down man.
Is it up yet?
No
Oh its up… But its not Available for me…
Says coming soon
Yeah. its up but not available. Being up means its on there. At least thats my interpretation of being up.
It Says “Hurry the Hell up”
That’s what she said
Lol
The demo is a lie ? Nintendo is bad at cake making.
hey whats up with this demo? it was supposed to be available 3 hours ago!
Actually, 12 minutes ago. 7am PST. 9am CST.
It was supposed to be available 12 minutes ago. The time was 7 PDT. i live in the Pacific Timezone.
oh I mist be eastern. well I woke up early for nothing lol
I’m getting this https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/27e70f2a2b0d7b1231b0bf7f278808405fe36730b3d21bb94342ca1f65cfd2da.jpg
So glad I have to wait another 2 hours for demo, maybe it’ll be out by time I get to work 😉
I like how my access point/Internet stops working before the demo >.< Like seriously, my personal hotspot from my phone usually works, what is happening??
You’re not missing much…
I know it’s not up yet, but I still wanna play it D:
I mean its TECHNICALLY up… just not available… but yeah i know what you mean…
Demo not live yet still despite being announced at the scheduled time.
I mean, it might take it bit for it to be live, due to various reasons.
My issue isn’t the demo not being up, it’s my Internet not working 🙁
Screw all the Litten haters. #TeamLitten. It’s a well thought out pokemon and people don’t can’t see that because of their own set standards.
I have to say the evolution has definitely grown on me. Especially if it ends up being Fire/Dark.
It’s shiny is great too, Something I wanted since the start , I even mocked this up in July, I only got the eyes wrong
https://www.facebook.com/EvilCilan/photos/a.398141693583817.93605.398138076917512/1132441260153853/?type=3&theater
I’m gonna try and get the shiny so I can name it after my Dead cat, who was white
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FLOPpilo fans should be the last ones to through shade when their fav is the Pokemon version of rupaul. They better hope that thing doesn’t have the typical 87.5 male ratio nn
I honestly never cared about the gender issue. We’ve had feminine pokemon that could be male too, and vice versa in the past. If I didn’t care then, why should I care now. Plus I like Popplio’s evo.
Gurl don’t come for popplio3. Bitch will skin the haters alive with her flawlessness
Its fab, it can do the dab, and it thinks your mentality is just drab
Salandit evo looks like a Vespiquen-case, which is a bummer. They could’ve done so much more with the first Poison/Fire-type.
After seeing what is likely every single new Pokémon, I still gotta say that Minior is my favorite 🙂 Can’t wait to catch a WonderBall of my own. Hope it can be competitively viable.
So, how many new Pokemon do we have in total? I hope it is at least 800.
802
794 if u dont include ubs
Is it an unpopular opinion when I say that I’m a bit disappointed with the dex? The only last stages I really like are Silvally, Vikavolt and Wimpod-evo.
No it’s not unpopular. A lot of people are dissapointed. Especially the fact that we saw like 80% it throughout these months of news
No, I’m disappointed with the overall number and the amount of single stage’s.
I lost my hype for this fucking gen. You’re not the only one I’m still pissed and angry. At least with kalos even if they gave us few Mons we still had good ones like talonflame
Don’t buy the game then if you hate it.
I didn’t say I hated it. I’m just disappointed. girl why are you all up in my koolaid, you do not need to know it’s flavor
I feel like this reaction might be a bit over board? I mean yeah there aren’t a lot of Pokémon but that’s only part of the game… literally everything they’ve shown has been such an update and upgrade to the series idk how you can honestly feel this way?
Chile I don’t know if you’ve seen my comments BUT I’m not here for this digimon mess that is ultrabeast and z moves. IDC about these new mini games or side quest either. IMO. When I think of a new generation of Pokemon I think of exploring a new region with new awesome Pokemon. Not whatever the fuck this mess is.
You just invalidated your own point tho. A big part of exploration is discovering something NEW different and unexpected. Clearly if you get exactly what you’re expecting it’s not really “exploring”. Besides the series has to push its boundaries and get outside its box to grow. But to each their own lol. I can respect your opinion I just think the opposite.
Guys the demo is live!
D: If only my Internet worked for me to get it D: D:
That’s unfortunate 🙁
Yeah. considering it worked before I went to bed.
Now, it’s saying I connect to the access point, but it won’t connect to the Internet
19 minutes late tsk tsk
Fashionably late.
Demo up!!
marshadow is actually cute but i think that popplio’s final evolution looks beautiful
I love Sirenade!
Bless your heart you call it that too.
right when the demo drops, i gotta go to update a application
Okay so I looked at the Alolan forms because I don’t care about them. And for good reason… Alolan Persian looks terrible and I need to know the inspiration for the geodude line. Is there gonna be electricity running through golems yellow rocks?
Rock/Electric was the popular guessed type for Golem, yeah.
Oh I can see what they’re saying.
“The demo will be on the eshop by 7am PDT.” And it is up there.
Except they didn’t say we can DOWNLOAD it right away…
What trolls… :p
It’s up!
I know, but there was a 10+ minute delay.
I’m finally able to download, 30 mins after it was supposed to be available and like… 23 mins after it appeared on the eShop.
Is there a chance that there are still some new Pokemon that weren’t able to be data mined?
I think I read on Twitter at one point that there are still some empty spaces not able to be seen, but I’m not 100% sure on that!
Okay good there is hope.
downloading demo now! yay! I only got 4 hours of sleep for this!
Not going to get into the leaks, I haven’t read them nor will I. But I just got the demo and already in love with Team Skull <3
Team Skull is AMAZING!!!
Right it’s meme time lads and ladettes
Gonna try to guess the UB’s types if they aren’t uniquely programmed to have every aim weaknesses and resistances.
UB-01:???
Water/Psychic
UB-02: Beauty
Bug/Fairy
UB-02: Absorption
Bug/Fighting
White Haired UB
Electric/Steel
Separated UB
Rock/Psychic
Papery UB
Normal/Grass
Phat UB
Dark/Poison
Edgy UB
Dark/Ghost
Hey, I know I’m kind of being annoying about my Internet issue, but could someone help me at all? Normally using the hotspot from my phone works fine, but now it only connects to the access point, but not the Internet itself. I don’t know what happened between the few hours I used it and now.
Try going to a free wifi spot like Starbucks if at all possible
I’ll try to see if my on-campus Starbucks has one, but I’m not sure. There’s one off-campus, but I wouldn’t be able to go until night.
Restart the hotspot and cellular data?
Sometimes I randomly lose signal and my cellphone “downgrades” to 2G/3G…
I dunno how to restart that, but I’m restarting my phone at this point
YES IT’S WORKING 😀 Thanks guys for th input, I just needed to restart my phone xD welp sorry
Persian looks like Garfield haha
This is probably the most dissapointment I have ever experienced in my whole life. Expecially the Alolan Diglett and Dugtrio. Like wtf
Lol I keep trying to move with the D-Pad once I exit a menu or conversation, ugh xD
THE OVERWORLD MUSIC IS SOOO LOVELY
OH NO, I can’t sit in a chair D: This is worse than XY!!!
I knowww I was completely shocked by this
Why does GameFreak always remove the best features! xD
And…..done!
YESSSS DOWNLOADING 😀
Likewise!
Since trainers have to be 11 to participate in the trials, I think a birthday for Ash is in the making soon 😉
He is finally going to age?!
I assume so? Unless the anime follows different rules of course.
He aged one year for X/Y. So he might be 12 now.
I love this gen
I love the Metroid spider
I love Robinroot
I love the cuddly ball of cuteness that is Marshadow
I love the little Sea urchin thingy
Litt
Slowpoke! <3
Pffttt whatever I’m choosing Litten. (Regrets)
Litten has the best final evo in my opinion it looks like guzma when he crouches down
When your WiFi is shit and struggles to download a 300MB file
Looks like Solrock and Lunatone aren’t in the game.
https://twitter.com/pokeloot
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/30597e7f57485f77f062f518bddb298f499bcce8052728c695bc941f7ef22a4b.png
WHY HASN’T MEGA FLYGON BEEN MADE IF HE COMES BACK EVERY GAME!!! JUST GIVE THE POOR GUY A MEGA ALREADY!!!!
I just gotta download it by sleep mode, cause I really need to get to classes D: Dunno why it’s taking so long
Could someone tell me how to download by sleep mode as well. I have to go to classes to.
Wimpod evo is the most bamf thing I’ve ever seen 😀
It looks ugly as hell to be quite honest.
To each their own. I love it and ugly isn’t even close to how I’d describe it. But out of curiosity what were you expecting it to look like upon evolution?
A giant isopod. Not some bipedal creature that looks like it could be Bug/Fighting type. But knowing me, I’ll probably get used to it.
:/ but it IS a giant isopod….. kabuto, (a horseshoe crab) evolves into a bigger, bipedal horseshoe crab… but yes, you most likely will get used to it. Or be doomed to hate it for all eternity. My guess? An episode of the anime featuring it will change your mind as it does for most people.
WHY DOES THIS GAME HAVE HATERS? IT IS INCREDIBLE
I kinda gave up on the community a long time ago. They’re frustratingly hard to please. I’m only here to have some people to talk.
This! This is exactly how I feel. Sometimes being in this community makes me feel like I’m too positive or forgiving to gamefreak, then I remember that Pokémon is amazing and I always love all the games (even tho there are some weaker entries in the series)! I’m truly love this series and am so grateful it is even still around 😀
Because the Metroid spider didn’t bless them
My only problem is a lack of a Pyuku evo
Bruhhhhh I almost forgot about metroid spider 😀 it is incredible! And I think they may be based of of Man-o-wars but I’m not certain.
I would doubt it cause it has more of a celestial feel, but its perfect!
If the Sun and Moon gods answer my prayers like they did for Lunala, than it will be a ghost/bug type
Ghost/Bug would be a blessing omg! Pray to Arceus lol
Exactly! I have wanted that typing for ages!
I oughta tell you the Lunala story XD
It’s like people forgot this game is celebrating us and 20 years of Pokemon.
People just ungrateful tbh. Having an opinion is one thing, outright showing hate or disdain…absolutely unnecessary
You can’t please everybody
I wonder if people put together that the Alolan Geodude line are based off lodestones .
I did! Creative as hell if you ask me!
I didn’t… that actually is really cool
Literally the only thing about the game I dont really like is the way the PC moves around. Too robotic imo
I don’t like how you can’t sit
I chock it up to them still figuring out the ins and outs of 3D game development. I’m certain the next main games, (possibly/hopefully) on NX will alleviate this issue
What nature are your Greninjas?
it’s locked to hardy for everyone
Oh good. I was about to soft reset for a Timid one hahahaha
Ash’s Greninja is a hardass though 😛
Thus removing alot of it’s competitive potential.
It might be banned from competitive play anyways.
Anyone know if you get to transfer anything from this demo to the full game? Has it been done before?
1) Yes, you can transfer Ash-Greninja. Don’t know if you can transfer anything else.
2) We were able to transfer Mega Steelix from the ORAS demo.
Mega Glalie in ORAS demo for some of us.
You can transfer the stardust and nuggets too.
Just finished downloading it with two minutes to spare before class!
So you cant catch any Pokemon right? Just Greninja and temporarily Pikachu?
There is a pokemon catching challenge you can take part in after completing the demo. You get to keep the pokemon you catch, only for the rest of that challenge, then they’re released.
Sadly, nope. I got all excited about catching a rockruff in the catching challenge but then the old coot forces you to release them, lol.
The Smogon forums aren’t very interesting to dwell in. I feel like every other person keeps bringing up old news as if it’s new or provide old opinions already considered unlikely.
Just thought of this, STAB Normal Z-Move using Explosion, I calculated that it would reach 300+ BP potentially
lol
“It’s a vending machine! … $1 million?!? what?”
http://img10.deviantart.net/44f3/i/2016/292/5/c/wimpod_evolution_by_alexalan-dalj17d.png Dayumn people work fast
Is it weird that I kind of want it to be Bug/Steel? But offensive and fast?(unlike you forretress and escavalier)
Not at all dude.
yes it is. we need a bug/water after masquerain failed us
Well its shell almost looks like Samurai armor. So it was just a thought.
I see where you are coming from.
hmmm X-scissor, swords dance, aqua jet and waterfall? Possibly crabhammer if it can learn it?
that’s scizor
Okay…but a useful one that isn’t just niche with tech builds baton pass teams 😛
uh scizor serves multiple roles. banded wall breaker, mega tanky, revenge killer, etc.
you know nothing of competitive do you
Fine I don’t like Scizor, I want a good Bug/Steel you happy :P(legit forgot he had a mega too)
My favourite set Is the Bulky Swords Dance set. Also enjoy banded one every now and then.
There’s also a defensive Defog, Roost set.
O.K if that’s what its evo looks like, I guess I’m alright with it. 😀
Amazing!
Just finished downloading my Demo. Can’t wait to play despite being totally disappointed by hackers of the ugly ass evolutions of many new Pokemon. And in addition to that, no proper Snowman or Dolphin Pokemon.
this gen is awesome!
Damn I actually blacked out from battling a trainer. I hope that’s how the actual game is cuz man these trainers were actually pretty tough
I actually couldn’t believe it.
the trainer sent out pikachu at level 42 and paralyzed my greninja and eventually knocked me out with electro ball
Yeah that happened to me too, lol. My mistake was not using super potion before starting the battle, and stupidly using aerial ace on her jangmo-o instead of going straight for night slash. Second time the win was easy, though.
Yeah. That’s true
How do I put a spoiler tag? I need to say something
blah blah blah
remove the spaces between the <, Spoiler, and /
There are actually 7 UBs. Well yeah there are 8, but one if version exclusive, so 7 per game. IT ALL COMES TOGETHER. And those pre-evos for Lunala/Solgaleo are not actually pre-evos, but most likely ”unreleased, or ”uncomplete” forms like the Zygarde cells. Same with Marshadow.
don’t jump to conclusions. for all we know, any number of these could be version exclusive, there could be less than 7. they are switching up the formula so much this gen, who’s to say they aren’t pre evo’s of solgaleo and lunala? Silvally is basically another form, but its considered an evolution.
Which would mean that we are missing marshadows full form. Plus the new, celebi, diancie of this generation.
That would most likely be Magearna.
I always saw Diancie as part of a trio…. I do miss the days we used to get those tiny adorable mew/ celebi/ jirachi/ shaymin/ victini of the Gen
There’s so much in these games to look forwards to! Beautiful region, different challenge in the form of trials, alolan forms, much better designs in my opinion than kalos and maybe even unova, upgraded character customisation.
Yes, there are some issues which we were hoping would be resolved such as another bipedal fighting type looking fire starter, a smaller number of new Pokemon, some of our favourite Pokemon from the reveals not getting evolutions, and for me personally not enough legendary Pokemon ( I like Sinnoh and unova :/). But still hyped and much better than Kalos! Hopefully the story is amazing and the game isnt as easy as XY! HYPED 😀
Considering that it’s been reported you get the exp share early on though…
Look at my comment below
Sorry
Wut don’t be sorry. I’m saying my comment might answer what you said above
Thought you were referring to spoiler tagging
Oh nah man.
Love the profile pic
Thanks!
Well we can turn it off! What annoyed me about XY was that some gym leader Pokemon only knew 3 moves, they were under Leveled and that there were 2-3 for gym leaders when I’d love the challenge of 3-5. I’d also like it if you were forced to pick the same number of Pokemon as the gym leaders. But it’s aimed at kids after all.
in x, I couldn’t find many of my wanted team members until later, so chesnaught and vivillon were lv. 40 when I got my 2nd badge lol.
We don’t have gym leaders anymore so I think 3-5 and 2-3 won’t be happening this gen. But maybe kahunas?
Hey guys, so to get it clear…
this image of the new pokemon with the question marks in it, i hope you know which one im talkiing about, someone already posted it.
The dots mean possibly more new pokemon ? and
Is this the correct datamined order of the mons in the dex?
thx
can you link this picture?
how can i link it without showing the image here? because when i copy the link, the image is shown here, i dont wanna spoil
put the image in a spoiler tag then.
How do you do a spoiler tag thing? Or the shading text?
Just show it. This article clearly warns about spoilers in the comments section 😛
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvDFzp_WIAAr5i2. jpg
delete the space between . and jpg
im an idiot…click the link + type .jpg after the link
those would be all standalone pokemon (except maybe for a mimikyu evo). This would mean 20 non legend standalone on 70, which is even crazier
Hi…. which image?
Someone pointed this out earlier on, they think it’s the totem pokemon.
Ooh, 3 stardust can be sent to the full game once you have Taurus and clear a quick minigame. Also, Mahalo trail has incredible music, very reminiscent of mystery dungeon.
Where can I find the other two? I got one from beating the trainer with the lv42 Pikachu
Dude outside the pokecenter gives 1.
Sorry, I wouldn’t know yet, still just discovering stuff myself.
Credit to Dragonith on Deviantart:
http://orig10.deviantart.net/eeca/f/2016/292/4/7/pokemon___scrubbed__til_shiny_by_dragonith-dalifm6.png
Hahahahahahahahahaha ???
well hakamo-o is slow as molasses on a cold winter day going upward…. in space. I just got scary faced twice and I still outsped it, with Pikachu.
It used Autotamize twice in front of Ash-Greninja and still was hella slow
Here’s hoping Kommo-O gets a bigger speed boost. I’d hate for them to waste an opportunity on an awesome looking pokemon with unique typing.
… slow pokemon doesn’t automatically make it bad. I was just pointing out its speed for people who are into that sort of thing.
Correct, but with a 4x weakness to fairy it is going to need some help.
However, if it has decent speed, its atk stat looks like it is through the freaking roof, so it will still be great. fingers crossed that it can learn cross chop.
I’m hoping for more of a physical goodra, fantastic def, good enough atk to hit things decently, good hp.
ugh this again.
hydreigon, scizor, heatran, salamence, garchomp, and heracross are just a few examples of pokemon with a 4x weakness that are very common in the metagame. some of these aren’t even particularly fast.
Yes, but 4x weakness to a commonly played type, those of which tend to be above average speed is a no go. Hell, 3 of the ones you mentioned are really fast, and Heracross has above average.
earthquake is the most commonly used move in the game, heatran doesn’t complain.
Yea but Heatran has enough bulk to live through it 😛 Going off reddit Hakkamo-O’s sp. def ain’t super great. At least it means it can fend off Azumarill and M-Mawile though.
The BSTs might be lowered to make the demo easier.
That too
no shade, but if they left all the shinies in the pokedex the least thing they gonna do is modificate the BST
Nah, they really do alter that stuff for the demo. And also Jangmo-o and Hakamo-o can only have Bulletproof in the demo, but we know it can also have Soundproof, so there’s more proof of altering.
There’s an explanation for that, all the scales slow them down.
I’m not complaining, I’m just pointing it out for the competitive battlers here.
rip thats sad
why the hell does minior (and komala) doesnt have an evolution
if I had to wager I guess, i’d say its because gamefreak didn’t make them.
I don’t know how to do a spoiler, so I’ll be vague. I’m thinking there are more because we’re missing a few certain leaked Pokemon.
they better cause if not i will be so dissapointed
Have there ever been new Pokemon that didn’t show up in their respective regional dexes?
Yes, in Gen 4 new evos and some of the legends weren’t in the regional Dex, at least in D/P, in Plt most were added, some remain region dexless.
If you are talking about the snowman and dolphin, they’re there. They just not what you expected.
we don’t have a sprite for cubone
We don’t have the sprite for any old Gen pokemon with no alolan form
We do, check PokéLoot on Twitter.
I meant new ones, but thankyou.
Cubone is it’s normal typing.
Do we KNOW it has its normal typing? Seems weird for a ground type to evolve into Ghost/Fire.
We’ve seen it in evolve from a Cubone.
Ah okay then. Seems weird that most of the alolan forms are for the entire evo line, but not for those three.
In a trailer they showed cubone, pikachu and exeggcute evolving into their Alolan evolutions.
The snowman was supposed to be an ice/ghost type.
I think Fairy explained this is that the Chinese word for yeti and snowman are similar or the same so thats where the confusion came in.
I feel like Minior will have useable, but not godly stats, maybe all 80s, and I see it as the Spinda of the region, I never really saw it as something that would evolve.
does anybody know which Pokemon you can catch with the Catching Challenge? So far I got Rockruff, Pikipek, Yungoos and Pikachu.
Hi. How do you do that spoiler tag/ letter stuff?
your comment remove the spaces between < and spoiler
to close a spoiler,
Anyone else notice that the awesome sitting mechanic has been completely removed? ;n;
Yeah?
such a groundbreaking mechanic taken away
I know! How else am I supposed to enjoy my goddamn malasada?! >:U
RIGHT, this games are not realistic at all now
youre…. being sarcastic, right?
no, by sitting I could break the ground
What do you think?
with the way people have so far been complaining for no reason, it wouldn’t surprise me.
No, sitting is a vital necessity in life. No sit, no rest, no energy, no chance of becoming a Pokémon master!
GF always removes the best features
not the first time GF introduce something awesome then take it away, sadly
*nothing’s following me intensifies*
lol yeah, that’s the big one we all miss 😡
Yup just noticed
Battles with more than 2 Pokemon on screen runs pretty horribly on the old 3DS..
XL or regular?
XL
dont think this is everything the rumor of 143 new pokemon is still up the dataminers said they couldnt find some sprites there is also a possibility that they just didnt show everything so that there is still a suprise factor
I want to believe GF left some behind but scrubbed a lot so that we’d get what we deserve for spoiling ourselves lol.
exactly they did delete some things from the demo
Le sigh… I shouldn’t of looked at the leaked Demo files.
Komala confirmed to have no evolution. It had so much potential.
So… 1) Does anyone think Kalos is in the game? Something was posted last night but I don’t remember. And 2) What type do you think the creepy spider alien is?
I will continue to believe Kalos is in the game until they release and prove otherwise.
No, Kalos was one of the locations they found, but that’s because in Greninja info it is stated that it comes from Kalos
Then why so much extra space in the game
Improved graphics, cutscenes, and the fact that Alola appears bigger than Kalos.
I get all the new features. But I don’t think it’s so much stuff that it takes up all that space. Something is still missing
1. No, probably just labeled for Kalos Pokemon plus one NPC says alola is very far from other regions.
2. I think it may be like dark and bug, electric and bug? I have no clue hinestly
It sort of has an air bubble around it (like those diving spiders), but by the colors it could be electric/bug, maybe electric/water. I would like an Bug/Psychic, even though it wouldn’t match with the colors, but who cares.
I don’t know if Kalos is in the games, but I do know that even if the games come out and Kalos isn’t in them, a certain group of hardcore fans will continue to believe we will return to it at some point through some kind of gen 7.5 DLC update, despite how GF have said they don’t want to do DLC and probably never will 😛
People just really don’t want to believe Kalos is over, haha.
I’m in the group of people believing Kalos is in, but if it isn’t in, it is not coming at a later point for Sun and Moon and I’ll admit, even with everything Sun and Moon have to offer, I’m going to be a bit disappointed that Kalos was one and done.
We have no third legend, we have no Fossils, we have just 6 lines of 3 stages (3 of which are the starters). Instead we have 14 standalone pokemon and maybe other 6 to come. God, didn’t think Gen 7 would have beaten Gen 6 poor dex. At least I like almost all new pokemon.
true. I hate how many standalones are
It’s sad but I really feel like there might be a little bit more. Maybe one or two evos for the standalone Pokemon and maybe a couple legends/mystical Pokemon.
can we start already to talk about a generation 7.5 for next games? XD
I remember Masuda saying to the girl of Pokenki that there would have been around 100 new pokemon. Did I dream it?
81 is around 100
-.- 98 is around 100
He said there will be more than 10 new Pokemon as a joke.
tbh I feel like Marshadow is the 3rd legendary and it isn’t gonna stay as that cute little ghost critter. I wonder if it has an alternate form to make it impressive, big and scary.
Think of it like, if we’d seen Zygarde core before its normal form. maybe 😛
No, I think Marshadow is the Mew clone of this gen. It could get another form but Hoopa had too. Usually the third legend has around the same size of the main legends.
I’d agree with you, but usually the legendaries don’t get prevos and they have this time around. I wonder if Marshadow is something similar…just reversed.
Perhaps mini-cover legendary will be related to the Zygarde plot line, since that also looks like a powering up legendary style thing. Post-game? Or it could just be like Xerneas in it’s pre-battle, blue forme.
And usually legendaries don’t evolve and we have gym battles.
Also, Let me remind everyone of celebi, Ho-oh and Lugia’s third legendary, but also the only mythical, also not similar to lugia and ho-oh’s theme. Marshadow could be the same.
I love pikipek evolution line, it would stay normal/flying tho.i think crabrawler evo, the spider pokemon is one of my fave, salandit evo is basically heliolisk 2.0 it looks incomplete, i hate that there are so many standalones especially for pokemon that needed an evolution, the wimpod evo is cool but i aint a big fan, and i am dissapointed with the anchor pokemon, they could have done better
I’m really, really surprised that komala doesn’t appear to have an evo. That’s my no.1 reason I hope there’s more to be discovered. That little dude does not seem complete on his own.
I hope Pikipek stays Normal/Flying, if it turns into Water/Flying I will be VERY angry! Because that will clash with my team. I want Popplio, so yeah.
water/flying is not even a good competititve typing either.
I agree so much, the spider is perfect
It’s perfect, really torn between Vikavolt and alien spider now, since it seems like they’d likely have the same typing.
I had some ideas on typing.
1) Bug/Electric
2) Bug/Water
3) Electric/Water
4) Bug/Dark
5) Electric/Dark
6) Bug/Psychic
7) Electric/Psychic
8) Dark/Psychic
9) Water/Dark
Ahh, I love this mystery, I’d be happy with anything/water, then, I’d have more team spaces for all these cool new ‘mon, Rowlet and Alolan Vulpix are in for sure.
Exactly what i was thinking About the heliolisk part
I don’t feel like the Salandit evo looks incomplete, it’s a slim (probably female only?) lizard so it doesn’t have to be huge or anything. Heliolisk did look imcomplete though
I wonder if all our money from the demo will be transferred to the real game…
Doubt it, but you can transfer 3 Stardusts, a Starpiece and a Nugget
Probably not
What is going on with those Alola forms
Wasted opportunity.
Wasn’t it said though that they didn’t data mine everything? Maybe there are still new Pokemon?
Nah.. i think we just should accept this. no reason to give uourzelf false hope
Zero fossil pokemon seems unlikely.
Gen 2 had no fossils
Gen 2 was basically a continuation of Kanto though
If kalos is postgame, u Can count this as a continuation of kalos?! Idk
IF it is (but the two regions are not even close to each other. Johto and Kanto are only separated by a mountain)
I thought it was datamined though?
Why? It’s happened before. Also Hawaii doesn’t have much in terms of fossil records.
I’m not trying to give myself false hope. It just seems like like a lot of people are too quick to jump the gun
We Will see, i just accepted it, its a decent bunch of new pokemon
exactly what i have been saying
Thats actually what I think. I think they purposely put some unrevealed data in the demo to datamine.
Pokemon that defenitly should have had an evo/preevo:
Confey
Pyukumuku
Minior
Ribombee
Bruxish
Pokemon that should have had a preevo:
Passimian
Oranguru
Drampa
Tortunator
no spaces between so its and the end is more
I agree but it just didnt happen
Komala should of evolved totally
That was for me the biggest shock yes
Oh yeah I forgot it.
Not all pokemon in the pokedex needs a pre-evo or evo guys
honestly Komala and Pyukumuku should of gotten one they look incomplete
So true, we can get away with Drampa and Tortunator but not those 2.
and minior
In fact, not all. Gen 6 had 5 standalone on 67 new pokemon. Gen 7 has 14 standalone on 62. Counting Legends we have 20 on 72 being stanadalone. For instance, more then 1 on 4 is a standalone.
Are you counting Alolan pkm?
Anyway, nothing could save Pyukumuku or Drampa
No. Just new pokemon. I mean Gen 5 introduced 14 non legends standalone on 143 non legend new pokemon, why shoulded gen 7 introduce the same amount of standalones having half of the pokemon of gen 5?
Gamefreak is counting alolan forms as new pokemon, that might explain why they didn’t make more pokemon. They don’t have to follow what we think they should do lol they’ve never had and never will. We weren’t expecting gen 5 to have 143 pkm, gen 6 to have so little so yeah
no discussion here, shiny vikavolt is the best shiny in this dex
Pic/link? 😀
https://i.sli.mg/OCkkxW.png
Beautiful!
Is there a place in the demo where you can manually save?
What type do we think Marshadow is now we’ve seen it?
If it truly does have a unique typing that helps us narrow. I have a few ideas.
1) Dark/Fairy
2) Ghost/Normal
3) Poison/Fairy
4) Psychic/Poison.
Of course if it wasn’t for the fact that we’ve been told it’s Unique I’d have said Dark/Ghost tbh.
I’m hoping ghost/normal
we have a dark/normal Raticate
Ah yeah thankyou, I’ll edit
Should have put a spoiler tag imo. But to answer I think Ghost/Normal but hope Dark/Fairy
I considered it but as we knew Marshadow existed I didn’t think it would be a spoiler, specially type speculation, if I’d have posted the picture I’d have put it in spoiler Tags
I think some people are trying to stay away from reading the leaks, hence the spoiler tags.
It’s not really leak since people have been guessing its mysterious typing for a while now.
I’ve been using spoilertags for spoiler things, but we’ve been speculating this for a while now, and now we’ve seen it we can guess better, I didn’t post the image so theres no issue
It’s an article about the leaks, what are people expecting to read here? lol
So, it’s basically confirmed that everything was leaked. All the Pokemon and UB’s.
What is our total amount of new Pokemon?
is this including the mysterious 7?
Yes. I suppose.
809 i think
Not bad. Not bad. But man, some of the designs are awful.
Wimpod and Salandit’s evolutions for example.
those 2 are alright i dont hate them I think its cool they try new stuff.
Really? I find them both pretty cool. Especially wimpods
I’m not actually surprised if this is the amount of Pokemon we are getting. I’ve been thinking that they would release all Pokedex (maybe keeping some legendaries as secret) till the game release. Gen 6 and Gen 7 has few amount of Pokemon because of Mega Evolution designs and new Alolan Pokemon designs respectively.
Regardless of the data mining, what annoys me is how they released so many pokemon early on, which in a sense, gave false hope and didn’t leave much to be discovered when the games are released. Same can be said for the Alolan forms.
how do i save in the demo? 😐
Watch the video
thank you 😀
Can someone link me to where everyone is seeing these damn pictures and stuff please, since Pokejungle didnt come through with that part. ^^; Because I really want to see the pictures, NOT just read about them.
https://sli.mg/a/4HOcnq
Thank you very much. 😀
ok but why UB have shinies if we “supposely” cannot catch them. hmmmm
The things we battle in B2/W2 in the film place that aren’t pokemon have shinies too I believe, they’re not catchable
Because they are Pokemon, but also humans. Hence their French names ”Ultra Chimeras”
Because it’s a programming thing, they’re met in battle, they need to have a shiny sprite as well.
such a tease lol
I really want to know what typing Alolan Diglett/Dugtrio are
Ground/Fabulous
Fabulous, seems to mean fairy in game freak eyes. 😛
Ground/Fairy
LOL dont let Earthen read this
In all seriousness though, I think it’ll be Ground/Normal. The hair just seems like an attempt to… Normalise it?
Ehh I sort of like that combination.
Normal perhaps, this one is tricky…
Grass maybe, since it seems to have “sprouted” hair?
Away to level up Pikipek, I’m sure nothing’s going to happen but I’m genuinely curious to see how the game will react since these Pokémon aren’t expected to Level up.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1259ff3777487648adfc73e46c290ace70188984df53c79ba4d745a1cc3afedb.jpg
That’s urs ?
There’s an area in the demo where you can catch and use other Pokémon but you have to release them.
Idk how many you could catch there. I got 4 and walked out lol
Twenty, sixteen Poké Balls, three Heal Balls, and one Great Ball :p
I know that ….but u almost do it ….tell me if it evolve or not.
Oh, I levelled it up, but it didn’t evolve.
Kinda bugs me they can scrub Evolutions as well as data of Pokémon not in the demo but not their sprites >->
Surprise! Nothing happened! :p https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8f1916b897b16a5168a22b35cbad38895edb7319072544e35beb87a00a971012.jpg
its been fun making all those shinies. Im glad i got very few right but gen 8 i hope to be better at photoshop and make some epic shinies 🙂
Looks like Pokejungle is #teamlitten
Oh, apparently Thunder Wave’s Accuracy was reduced to 90%
paraflinch users are shaking in their booties
So, not counting Ultra Beasts and Alolan Forms, the total number of new Pokes is 802?
794
That’s very underwhelming.
they couldnt make 6 more? bye
maybe its not all
I hope it’s not all. Cause I’m very angry!
there is an posibilty because he did say some sprites were removed
when initiating a battle while using pokeride, your trainer will don the riding gear for the duration of the battle. nice attention to detail gamefreak!
so we only have the starter, an evolution line, and the legendary as fire types this gen. What type of Sinnoh teas
Tortunator and Salandit line.
nvm 2 then. but still that so little
Oricorio too.
should be
Litten
Torracat
Lit3(beltigre)
Salandit
Salandit2(slutandit)
Oricorio
Tortunator.
So that’s 7, 8 if you include Silvally
Better then Dark and Ice merged together for sure.
Ikr? Dark and Ice only seem to have one new Pokémon each as additions to types as Pokémon evolve.
I mean I count Alolan Forms as pseudo new but it just isn’t the same when there’s very little new new Pokémon.
Oricorio? Sivally?
Can anyone tell what animals the tapus are based on
looks like a nautilus, dolphin, rooster, and bull
Omg it is a nautilus… I didn’t realize
It looks like a squid to me.
The shell very much looks like a nautilus
The shell is probably just because all the Tapus have shells
Yes, but even then its shell looks like a nautilus. Small top part, squidy parts in the middle, big bottom part.
Nautilus is close to a squid
Swordfish/Marlin, Rooster, Squid, Bull
I agree with marlin, that is no dolphin.
I can see why a glance one would confuse if but it’s clearly a fish fun and not a dolphin fin.
Remember that the leaker is just a guy who did not have the possibility to discuss with sugimori about inspiration. So, that’s the closest thing to a dolphin we had and it’s for sure what the leaker saw.
I understand that, it also explains the snowman being a yeti crab. What I’m saying is that isn’t a dolphin.
also, im highly dissapointed with the water types this gen. Popplio is fine. But the others one? underwhelming. The only that deserves loves are wimpod and the starfish. Even tho I am not a huge fan of wimpod evo, I can see why people like it
wow, I never expected to see such a group of whiners and entitled people on this site. you all are usually well mannered, and thankful for anything pokemon related.
Im happy with every except komala 🙁 its hurts me
sorry our opinion is not the same as yours?
I fail to see what is so disappointing is all. no one is even remotely thankful that we have a new gen or new pokemon, its sickening.
Excuse you? Tons of people are happy, they’re just voicing their complaints as well.
I haven’t seen to many people who are happy at all today. I scroll through, nothing but complaints.
“so and so makes me angry”
“why aren’t there more – type?”
“UB’s are awful!”
so on and so forth.
Just because they didn’t say they appreciate doesn’t mean they don’t smh
It’s an message board, and there’s not really point in expressing gratitude because the people who gave us this content (GameFreak and Leakers) aren’t going to be reading it.
maybe i’ll try to start some positive conversation to at least mix it up a little.
I’d appreciate that tbh, I may be defending the right to complain but it does get quite boring
Over reaction much?
yes, people saying they angry and no longer purchasing the game is an over reaction.
Their loss, but it doesn’t bother me as much as it seems to bother you. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, good or bad. Did you really expect nothing but praise just because we like the series as a whole? That’s unrealistic”
not at all, but I also didn’t expect nothing but anger and salt either.
Plenty of comments are full of love and praise too. But I guess people that are satisfied are less likely to make a bunch of comments as angry people that want to vent thier dissatisfaction. That’s just life.
i dont like the water types = im dissapointed. Is not really that hard to grasp. I think everyone is thankful. Not every single pokemon are a hit. we can complain if we want
I’m happy with Wimpod. He was my favorite from when he was leaked. I’m 100% satisfied. Though I’m sad about the lack of an original Dark type. Not that I’m whining about it, mind you.
thank you! I like wimpod as well, that evolution looks menacing and ready for action!
The mermaid was real and Tsareena looks cuter in game, I am elated.
yeah!
I’m super hyped. Like, heart palpitations level hyped. I wish my Solgaleo/Lunaala DS would get here already so I can play the demo!
that’s the spirit!
WELL I GOT THIS RED DEAD REDEMPTION 2 AND SOMBRA REVEAL LATER TODAY SO I CAN’T DEHYPE!
cosplay pikachu gen 6
Ash Pikachu Gen 7
PIkazilla gen 8?
Nah, it’ll just be different groups of Pikachu wearing clothes
ash’s companions pikachu
Call me an optimist, but I really believe this isn’t the full pokedex. I think this is a selective leak, placed there by GF for free marketing. Notice how we don’t got any plot details, location models etc?
Alolan persian…what the f**k???
It became a real persian cat. Probably clean-bred, high end family stuff.
Clean bred isn’t what I want, I want a lean mean black cat…not down syndrome meowth…
Persians have flat faces, are kinda pudgy and fluffy. It looks like a real persian.
Yes, I’ll give them that, but it looks so derby haha
Persians are tied for my favorite breed and now Persian comes in both varieties Sphynx and Persian yay
Are you not familiar with Persian cats? XD
I think Persian looks slightly frightening. But not in the traditional dark type way x3
Have you ever seen the tiger that had down syndrome? That’s what it looks like to me…
By the time the game is released everyone will have gotten over what disappointed them. I’ll just do what I’ve been doing till now with pkm I dislike: I ignore and never use them.
i am sorry for before
But how can you dislike any! They are all really fun!
Fun to kill
Don’t talk to me or my Sia Dugtrio ever again
SCREAMING at Sia
I’m here to provide color commentary and laughter. I have succeeded.
true. I will forget them
WHY DOES DUGTRIO HAVE HAIR
she got herself a new weave
Omfg I just realized one of the heads has that Sia hairdo going on
Surfer dude?
Exactly what I was thinking.. it hung out with too many surfer dudes
Am I the only one who’s goinh to try out every Pokémon, even the ones they dislike/ hate? I’ve actually made some favourites from Pokémon I used to dislike 😀
I don’t really dislike any Pokemon. I’ve learned to even be indifferent about Drampa. UBs however…
I’m praying they’re not catchable because if they are indeed half-human then pokemon is turning into a mess
Same. They just don’t fit in.
I don’t mind them existing if they’re from another dimension, but battling using half-human beings brings up some moral problems
What if Kiawe becomes a UB? 😉
UB10/10 Sexy
“Island” guys are so hot *cries*
He could still have me anywhere, whenever, and however he wanted
Hehe, Not if I catch him first! <3
Sweet dreams 😉
GURL pls. I’m not gonna fall for your dark void. My love is steadfast. 😉
*dark pulses your ass*
*send out Komala.*
Still gonna beat its ass
I’ll just F.E.A.R. You up first. 😉
I ain’t easily scared
I’ll just have break out some of my infamous charm then. You may not be scared but I’ll make you shudder like no other. 😉
Try me ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
eh, too boyish, gimme Chuck or Birch
I’m thinking about the future, give homeboy 5 years + I’m not really into bears
I’d love them if they were only story elements and nothing more. Yeah, battling with half humans doesn’t sit very well with me haha
I’m just saying, its kinda rude to say that you hope they aren’t catchable at all. If you don’t like them or have some huge moral conflict with a video game, just don’t use/catch them? I for one love the ultra beasts and think they are pretty cool additions to the series so long as they tie in with the story and stay exclusive to Sun and Moon.
Why is it rude? lol
Why the hell would we even capture beings from another dimension for? Battle some pikachu? Hopefully gamefreak will make the right decision in sending them back to where they came from in the end of the game
They have shiny formes, they wouldn’t if they were not catchable
Someone mentioned those things in the movie thingy in BW2 having shinies too
they don’t
Maybe the new ones, but I’m not using most of the alolan forms
only if they are competitive viable
I don’t dislike any of them(except bruxish) but i HAVE to use Kommo-O and Wimpod. Like they are instantly in my top 10 pokemon Designs, maybe even top 3
How fucking pathetic. This game is seriously babying us.
Only 72 new Pokemon introduced. JUST LIKE X AND FUCKING Y.
All the ones not revealed from before look like children made them.
Same with the rest of the Alolan Forms and Ultra Beasts. Yuck.
And Game Freak DID NOT LEARN THEIR FUCKING LESSON FROM ORAS!
people complained gen 5 had too much=Fixed, People complained Gen 4 had too many evolutions of old mons= Fixed. so what do u want from gen 8, 72 pikachu costumes?
complaining is the reason why we keep losing stuff we loved lol
Sun and Moon are obviously way better than XY, especially in terms of storytelling and lore. And as for the 72 new Pokemon, read my latest comment below.
How adorable.
case in point
Don’t play it then. Can’t please everyone
Way to treat subjectivity as objectivity brah
GameFreak just can’t win.
http://orig06.deviantart.net/107d/f/2016/190/c/2/pokemon_fans_in_a_nutshell_by_shironakarius-da9cryu.jpg
All this bitching and they’re still gonna buy the games lol.
now that I saw the leaks, I want the games even more
maybe these are not all the leaks but i agree i want this game even more now
I don’t know if it’s because I have other things to worry about but I am not looking forward to playing S&M that much anymore. I def will though
Im am back from work and have had time to see all the new babies!!! And I can honestly say this gen has some solid pokemon, I never expected Morelulls evo to become my fav but girl it has! The other UB’s look so amazing and while I was not fond of Tapu Koko at first it has grown on me and the other Tapu’s are great too. Im not even mad at the little amount of pokemon. My one complaint is Alolan Persian, its head is too big for me.
That last sentence XD
My oh my. 😉
Marshadow kind of looks like a tiki. Grass/Fire?
pure ghost imo
I could see it being ghost/normal
Thats not an unique typing…
This is why I hate Datamining. I always rush to judgment. Sorry for all my screaming.
I admit that it’ll take time for me to get used to these new Evolutions.
Salandit’s passes.
So does Morelull’s.
And Pikipek’s too. I love that line. Although going from Woodpecker to Toucan is weird. Unless they are somehow related?
The two stage spider looking line is… interesting. I can’t really say more.
Same with Wimpod’s evolution. I don’t particularly hate it, but it’s not my favorite.
Toucans and woodpeckers are both piciformes, they are omnivorous and are cavity nesters. So thats how they are related.
Thanks! The more you know, the better. I can’t wait to use it!
No problem, I knew my knowledge on birds would come in handy some day .
hey! give me you’re top 3 pokemon from the leak! remember, use spoiler tags as to not ruin it for other people!
blah blah blah
remove the spaces in between the <, Spoiler, and /.
salandits evolution, morelull’s evolution, and wimpods evolution are all awesome
Wimpod evo, Kommo-O, and the Sia Dugtrio are tied
Morelull’s Evolution, Squid Queen Tapu, and Lunala Pre-Evo
I thought I was going to be alone on morelull’s evolution glad to see someon else likes it too!
Bonnet head will be my main don’t you worry
i like it too, is just so dorky and it fits its typing very well
It’s like Vileplume and Seedot had an adorkable baby.
the spider, pikipek line, starfish
I’m really curious about the typing of your first choice. cant wait to see what it is!
i know! i can see it not even being bug tbh
electric/poison?
that’s a cool type combo. I’m thinkning water/electric but yours is cooler.
it would certainly be helpful since we don’t really have many of that type this gen
nah, gimme bug/dark
My favorite out of all of them though? literally all of them, this game is freaking amazeballs
yepp, I haven’t found any that I dislike this gen. they mostly have me curious, I cant wait to get a better look at them.
I want to know how the UBs work. I hope they are like capture challenge modes that require you to build special pokeballs. then the games would have like 7-8 “legends”
Popplio3 (duh), baby Lunala and Marshadow
yepp, that’s my starter of choice.
Popplio, Pipipek’s evo, Kommo-o, Mudsdale, Salandit’s evo, and not sure about the 6th team member (Morelull, Fomantis, or Bounsweet’s lines?).
Bewear needs love!
i love its shiny
I do too, but I prefer the original coloration.
So looks like my new team is going to be Goodra, Wimpod Evo, Golurk, Kommo-O, Toxicroak, and Mawile/Alolan Exeggutor/alolan marowak. I love that this game just gave me 2 new favorite pokemon and 2 awesome new forms.
I used Mawile in my first play of Y, lets just say my game play time increased by three hours because I kept running into only male ones or accidentally fainting the females.
You could’ve just had a male one :P. #boyscanweardressestoo
Mila ended up being a boss, she won me the elite four, just like how my Mega lopunny won me the elite four in oras.
in ORAS my Mega Heracross sweeped the e4 by himself. Kenshiro showed them the fist of the north star.
CashmereKiss was my Lopunnies name. Along with BreezeBliss the Altaria. x3
Anyone else sad that we didn’t get Pikacastrophe? :L
my new profile pic is fabulous
So where’s the fossil pokes??
maybe we will get them its not fully leaked yet
But with all of these poke designs what’s left to be made a fossil poke?!
maybe a saber tiger or a dodo
make a Moa and a Haast’s Eagle. Both are extinct, and both are from polynesian countries.
100000 years in the past
either there are none, or they weren’t spoiled.
This time 3D models look so neat!
https://sli.mg/a/4HOcnq
I still hope they go back and fix some older models like Delphox
Fix her?
Delphox’s 3D model looks horrible compared to official art
http://pokecharms.com/data/attachment-files/2013/10/18239_oct_p02_01_fa923.jpg
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/thumb/2/21/655Delphox.png/250px-655Delphox.png
Ah yes, looks too awkward and wooden, like the dress is completely solid. And the face has none of that elegant, narrow eyed charm. I see it now.
by far my favorite fire starter. so awesome!
My favourite thing from the demo is that, if you catch a pokemon with a full team, you can choose to release it. Now this may be demo only, but I’m hoping it carries to the main game, and you can choose to put it in your team after catching instead of going back to the PC.
Its a shame that were not getting 100 new pokemon this game, but atleast the stuff we are getting is cool. I love the yeti crab, and the anchor. I am sure they have some stuff hidden that hasn’t been data-mined yet. Though I am disappoint that there wasn’t anymore alolan forms than what there is. I was expecting 20 to 30 alolan forms, but I am happy that alolan Golem exist. I am a little salty about no alolan Onix or Alolan machamp. Other than that I think this stuff should be fine. I guess we may have to lower or expectations.
maybe we are getting more the dataminers said there were some sprites missing
Waiting on this 4000 block demo to install >.< So do we know if there are more pokemon than just the ones leaked?
supposedly they are 7 mysterious
I hope there are at least five more. Only because I want to see Jynx fixed aesthetically and I would like at least two more animals based on native species of Hawaii.
THERE ARE NO FERROTHORNS IN THE DEX NEITHER GLISCORS. THE COMPETITVE SCENE IS SHOOK
Until January, that is
i literally going to do as many battles until january
It’ll probably be a different ratings season. 🙂
But still a good idea if you don’t wanna deal with Blaziken.
Can I get a link to the dex?
https://twitter.com/pokeloot
Look at their pictures, they have every pokemon from each gen.
Good
My only problem with the datamined dex is how few Alolan forms there are, i a son hoping we we would get a better amount.
maybe this is not all
My little sister scares me
I gave her my old 3DS and my Alpha Sapphire and she’s got a Level 32 Skitty and a Level 25 Crobat e-e
I really want Alolan Granbull 🙁 Police hat and everything
We also got a female Island Guardian and her hair is so voluminous. I am not good with computers. How do you do the spoiler thingy? Is telling them she uses aussie a spoiler?
So, I heard some old Pokemon weren’t found in the files.
I hope that doesn’t mean Game Freak got rid of them. 🙁
no no no, that just means they aren’t part of the Alola Dex
Can they even do that?
these are the pokemon that are currently OU that wont be available until January: Amoongus, Azelf, Azumarill, Bisharp, Breloom, Charizard, Diance, Excadrill, Ferrothorn, Gliscor, Gardevoir, Hippowdown, Jirachi, Heatran, Keldeo, Kyrurem, Lopunny, Landorus, Manetric, Medicham, Rotom, Mew, Raikou, Serperior, Tangrowth, Venusaur. Thats almost more than half i think
omfg thank you……..minus my Excadrill and my main man Hippowdon
im so happy gliscor is gone. and ferrothorn. Sad that chansey is still going to be there
yeah…….its not a perfect fix
Mega Gardevoir and Lopunny T.T
Also, watch Popplio3 be the new Water/Fairy goddess of OU
She’ll probably be a good Azumarill counter
BTW, Fairy doesn’t resist Fairy.
I can smell an OU Rowlet
Meanwhile Greninja and Kangaskhan will be back in OU…
ughhh. Why is kanga even back bye. Hopefully the nerf makes it less useful but i doubt it
Yep… its main awesomeness is faking out/sucker punching a focus sasher to death. 🙂
attacking at 1.25 power instead of 2.0 is a HUGE deal.
You mean previously 1.5… the second hit used to be only half.
And now it’s half of that/half.
GOOD
So my first trek through Alola will be with:
Litten(Naming him Argyle)
Wimpod(Naming him Wesley)
Rockruff (Midnight/ Naming him London- London after Midnight XD)
Oranguru(Naming him Dr Zaius)
Alola Muk ( Naming it Gayagenda)
Palossand(Naming him Desertman in tribute of MMBN 3)
Excited. Lol
Gonna name my Wimpod Flanders cause he evolves into a muscley monster the same way Flanders is actually really buff
Damn you, Sexy Flanders!
Hidley Ho trainerinos
Wimpods Evo: Gosh Diddly darn, I accididdlydently critted it
Do we have screenshots of the demo? I need a pic of kukui with a surprised face
Should we be worried about this… “Need”?
Hehe. 😉
Haha, wasn’t gonna do anything dirty with it, but was def going to use it in a dirty joke
Hah, Fair enough. 😛
Random question, what type do you believe the Metroid spider will be?
I see some sort of electric/something for some unexplained reason
Dark/bug
Dark/electric
Water/dark
YOOOO DARK ELECTRIC SOUNDS SO GOOD!!!
I thought Bug/Ice-type when I first saw it. On second look, Bug/Electric-type?
just saw leaked regional dex… just want to point out the very little amount of gen 4 pokemon… hint hint
i said the same thing. 😉
fabulous profile pic
thank u and where can i see the dex i can’t find the link i used
can i have a link to it?
ttp://imgur.com/gallery/5C8ry put an h infront of the link
the really want u to complete the dex eh
noooo :c swirlix isn’t in there… also whats with the black question marks?
Possibly totem Pokemon.
I also noticed Wishiwashi is missing, but it’s probably the two question marks next to Mimikyu. (One is the normal version, the other is totem version.)
no its there right before the sea cactus thing and after lycanrock night form
That’s Bruxish.
… no bruxish is right before drampa, are we looking at the same picture? 😛
Probably not I guess. 🙂
What about gen 6? Not even Greninja is there…
So what if this is like sinnoh where you get more mons after beating the main game. Like more starters (greninja) -and such. Maybe even marshadows full form
so kinda just speaking my mind, one thing i love to do as i play is write my own little stories based on my character’s misadventures, Pokemon capture stories, gym battles, and big events. and i truly can’t wait to see what will come
now i gotta think of a clever way to write in my newfound interest for Wimpod
Hmmm… how about… “Trainer dismissed Wimpod, wimpod got into a battle and (as expected) wimped out, but to please its trainer it tried to get braver, so it eventually defied its ability and evolved.”
i was thinking more of an accidental capture, and no matter how many times i send it to battle or try to get rid of it Wimpod continues to follow me
It kept coming back to him after he repeatedly dismissed it, kept trying to fight him even though it kept wimping out and running away part of the way through, and you decided to capture it seeing its perserverance. Then, it is your last pokemon during a key gym battle, and it starts taking a beating, it sees the look of desperation in your eyes and determines that no, it is not going to run away anymore, and through sheer force of will evolves.
that’s kinda cliche
Just because something falls into a trope doesn’t mean it’s bad writing 😛
in today’s breed of ultra-high critics it is
Plus the idea that it was following you around trying to fight you is kinda cute.
it doesn’t want to fight me, it likes me for some bizarre reason
That also works!
That is so adorable it evolved out of love!!!! omgggg
Helix has been replaced. All hail, Wimpod.
I see Wimpod as being a little scavenger that keeps stealing your food until you beat it up, yet it rises to the challenge no matter how many times you stop him and you eventually decide to train him up because you can see the determination in its eyes.
nah i think they’d be too skittish to approach humans let alone take food from them
maybe when my team is chilling on the beach, maybe my Rockruff is playing in a tidepool and rouses a Wimpod and as it skitters into my open bag and lodges itself in a Pokeball, then it just never leaves me alone
it even pops out by itself and tries to fight, but then gets scared and returns.(I legitimately hope this happens to ash in the anime)
something like that, but it has a surprisingly strong Struggle Bug attack that all pokemon really hate
Haha, I love it. Sounds like Misty’s Psyduck But more derpy and weak. Then one day, it save you from a tricky situation and overcomes the weakness to evolve and show you that it can be helpful.
No…it shows him that it’s GOD!
nah it still kinda sucks as a fighter, i try battling, it wimps out, i leave it at the beach, it follows me, i violently huck it into the ocean and still manages to come back,
but despite this i discover that this wimpod is a phenomenal scavenger which lets me find treasures
Heh, nice one. Little beach comber is your ticket to fortune then?
You’re trying to catch your favorite ground type that’s in this game the pokemon smacks away the ball and hits a wimpod hiding nearby it catches it.
There are no more Pokemon. The numbers check out. Obviously this list doesn’t reflect the assigned number to each Pokemon, but it does count them all.
722 Rowlet
723 Draxit
724 Draxit Evo
725 Litten
726 Torracat
727 Torracat Evo
728 Popplio
729 Brionne
730 Brionne Evo
731 Pikipek
732 Awkward Tucan
733 Full Tucan
734 Yungoos
735 Gumshoos
736 Grubbin
737 Charjabug
738 Vikavolt
739 Cutiefly
740 Ribombee
741 Togedamaru
742 Salandit
743 Salandit Evo
744 Comfey
745 Bounsweet
746 Steenee
747 Tsareena
748 Komala
749 Fomantis
750 Lurantis
751 Rockruff
752 Lycanroc
753 Minior
754 Crabrawler
755 Crabbrawler Evo
756 Mimmikyu
757 Stufful
758 Bewear
759 Sandyghast
760 Pallosand
761 Mudbray
762 Mudsdale
763 Alien Bug
764 Alien Bug Evo
765 Urchin
766 Urchin Evo
767 Wishiwashi
768 Morelull
769 Murelull Evo
770 Bruxish
771 Drampa
772 Oricorio
773 Type: Null
774 Silvally
775 Wimpod
776 Wimpod Evo
777 Passimian
778 Oranguru
779 Pyukumuku
780 Ghost Anchor
781 Turtonator
782 Jangmo-o
783 Hakamo-o
784 Kommo-o
785 Tapu Koko
786 Tapu Squid
787 Tapu Bull
788 Tapu Dolphin
789 Solagaleo Pre
790 Solgaleo
791 Lunala Pre
792 Lunala
793 Magearna
794 Marshadow
This is also assuming the Solgaleo and Lunala pre-evos aren’t just formes and the Ultra Beasts aren’t Pokedex’d ‘mons. We are either at 792 or 794 Pokemon. First time we haven’t moved into the next hundred block. Disappointed for sure, but more so in alola forms than the new ‘mons. 18 just seems like such a small number… Ah well, maybe we will get more in the 3rd Game/Sinnoh Remake/Sequels if we get any of those. With the NX right around the corner though these games do really seem like the last Ho-rah for the 3DS…
source?
What source is needed? These aren’t the real numbers excluding Jangmo-o, Hakamo-o and Kommo-o that were revealed in the demo. I’m just saying that if you follow the notion that they will be the last non-legendary mons in the dex that all the other spoiled Pokemon fit perfectly between them and Volcanion. That would mean any other new Pokemon come after them (Making them legendaries) or, and far more likely, there aren’t anymore new Pokemon (except maybe mythicals that haven’t be revealed yet and weren’t coded in).
ok, didnt know the numbers are known…
maybe this is not everything
blah blah blah Just testing this to make sure I’m doing it right, before I post what I was really going to post. LOL Just figuring which one works.
Huh I guess they both work. LOL
Is the demo based on sun? Or moon?
Sun, it’s day time when it’s day time and the character is called Sun 🙂
The anchor pokemon is definitely the cryogonal of this gen.
Well I guess that proves it, (At least for me) that the
UB’s ARE basically Pokemon! I mean why else would they give them SHINY
FORMS if they weren’t. And with the Alolan forms. I thought someone said that the Alolan form for Persian was suposed to be gorgeous, OMG That is one of the uglyest Pokemon I have ever seen!!!! It looks like a warped Garfield the Cat!!!! Persian is one of my top fave Pokemon, why? Why did they have to ruin it with that abomination, they call it’s Alolan form, WHYYYYYY!!!!!! And the Tapu’s, I LOVE the cute little pink one, though I like the purple one as well.
The pokestar studios things have shiny sprites IIRC
no they don’t
in the files they do, you just can’t see them
I have never heard anyone say that until now and I’m currently doing research for this but nothing is coming up so I don’t think they do
they do
No I think you’re thinking of these two (the door also had two different variants) but they couldnt be shiny at all https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3462fc5e53db690ff2d30a498098bcfea12d8cf2983c7bcbc7ec33a2de390ba7.png https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6dc82430c83c697a81644d341ca68f96dc8312554a657696314c50eb1e4ff03b.png
Those aren’t even living being’s, there freaking mechanical stage props, that you can’t do anything with except in the Pokestar Studio’s (which I didn’t really even bother with when I played Black and White 2, it didn’t interest me at all. LOL)
The UB’s however it would be pointless for them to have shiny form’s if you couldn’t catch them at some point. I mean I could care less if something like that had a shiny form, if I couldn’t catch and keep it. I’m pretty sure that UB’s are a new type of Pokemon from an alternate dimension, that decided to come an wreak havoc in the Sun and Moon universe.
the full Alola dex is( dont know if this considered a spoiler or not but) 323
What? I counted 400 + 2 mythical + 8 Ubs
i counted that unless i miscounted badly
Yeah sorry, you are right. Now I counted 88 from Kanto, 30 from jotho, 33 from hoenn, 29 from Sinnoh, 28 from Unova, 14 from kalos and 80 from Alola (counting the question marks)= 310 + 8 Ubs
So, um, I may or may not have just accidentally spoiled myself on, um, everything.
Oops.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiZNSzWIaLo
I guess you guys are the sith? xD
The leak side has cookies! >:D
Donno if I mentioned this already but I caught a shiny Beartic yesterday,
Im in a shiny drought
that was my first shiny in X
It was pure coincedence cause I was hunting for a male Piloswine and it popped up
Haha, similar story for me too, I was hunting for a female Solosis in mirror cave and ran into a shiny woobat, my first shiny.
I’ve never caught or encountered a shiny Pokemon. xC
chain fishing is ur friend
I just found out how to breed hidden abilities two weeks ago…
I bred a perfect IV HA Shiny Tyrantrum. It took me like 3 weeks, but she is big, strong and FIERCE!
I now have a bunch of Murkrows who know roost and brave bird and have prankster.
FINALLY!!!!! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/473f8348b314dbfc05fa9024799f5aa22a3bfd1512ea215b1664dd07c14f41e3.jpg
Can’t wait to play competitive with a new limited dex. At least until January.
Majority of common OU mons will be unavailable at first.
Although I’m wondering how we will be getting hidden abilities. Any news on a Friend Safari type thing?
Maybe I’m just in denial at this point, but this seems super incomplete. No evos for Komala, Pyukumuku, Comfey and Minior? MINIor? I’m probably just grasping for false hope here? There are so many small baby looking one stages, and there are only 4 3 stages other than the starters. I want to tell myself that I’m happy with this list but to be competely honest, I’m not.
Minior is a near rhyme to meteor
It’s mini though.
Its literally a mini-meteor yeah
Minus Komala those Pokemon clearly are standalones
Well Pyuku could have easily had an evo…
Type null got one…
Somehow Type: Null isn’t complete, yet tiny little Komala is full evolved? I want to hold onto hope so bad here. My brother thinks that it was intentional, and that it’s only part of the dex, I know that’s not possible but right now I would kill for that to be right.
no, Puke stain was a stand-alone from the get go, innards out validates a single staged warrior
I refuse to believe that.. compared to the other evos that existed…
well have fun with that false hope, you know the images are all there
Sadness…
Minior has mini in the name.
i think they did that because they already did a gimmick for all the shields down color crapola
Am I the only one who saw Confey as a gimmick poke? I just never felt it would evolve. Komola makes me sad though.
I’m surprised about Komala its entry mentions its parents. Maybe the parent is us maybe its another Komala. It’s just confusing anyway.
Read one my below comments. I think this isn’t the complete pokedex. I think they purposely put some yet revealed stuff in the databanks for free marketing. The demo doesn’t include things like plot details or location models either. Call me an optimist, but this is what I think.
I agree with everything you said. I am equally as dissappointed. Maybe more so at the fact that over 80% have been revealed be GF already. They left very little to be discovered anyway. Even If the demo hadn’t been data mined
I’m not even mad at myself for spoiling myself, I’d rather get over my dissapointment now than in a month,
In a month when you have a level 50 komala on your team and then realize it doesnt evolve. Thatd be the worst
Eep, I really need evolution methods leaked, I’d hate to have the same happen to me with any of these new Pokemon.
maybe we will get more
Do we need spoiler tags? Komala and minior definitely need evos…still holding out hope but I did that with x&y and was disappointed.
I’m trying to be polite to those with a stronger willpower than I.
But isnt this article dedicated entirely to dex spoilers?
seems like Sun/Moon will have day/night variants with music… you know what else had that…. Diamond and Pearl
Litten’s final evolution looks so cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I love it!
Also 1 ice type, and it’s not even a primary typing likely. . . The next region better be a snowy region, ice type needs some love. Anyway, I just need to move on from my dissapointment with the dex and focus on the features and areas of the game rather than the new pokemon.
BUT THERE’S SO MANY COOL LOOKING NEW POKEMON! WIMPODS EVO IS THE NEW KING!
Its good
but metroid spider
1. It’s highly unbalanced.
2. No evos for Komala and Minior
3. Not many three stages
4. Too many standalones
5. I was honestly expecting over 100 considering what we got last gen. I thought it was a one time thing, but maybe this is the new norm? :/
There could be more than meets the eye.
No fossil Pokemon and that many standalones has me guessing.
Maybe this was intentionally put in? I need some hope at this point, ugggh.
Hahaha we both couldn’t resist the day after we mentioned not wanting to know the info.
Honestly, strongest gen so far in my opinion. Great looking pokemon, awesome shinies
Here’s my thoughts.
Alolan Persian… Why…? I mean, honestly, I think I would have preferred they become an elegant bipedal grey persian than a cat who let fortune go to their head.
Alolan Geodude line is okay. I honestly think I like the fake leaks more where they were volcanic.
I’m quite disappointed that GF revealed all but 17 – 19 new pokemon.
I’m definitely enjoying Wimpod’s evolution (who I’m calling Wrathynomus after the Giant Isopod genus) so much. I’m definitely getting one of these monsters. But, it does make me wonder… Are Wimpod and Crabrawler version exclusives or some new fossil-type thing?
Speaking of Crabrawler, that evolution of its… I’m hereby dubbing it Saskiwallop after the Kiwa hirsuta (Yeti Crab/Yeti Lobster) and calling the Fighting/Ice type combo. I’ll love that fuzzy lumpkin to death!
I’m not sure how to feel about the rest yet.
The shinies are disappointing imo, especially when compared to X and Y. These ones are much like gens 4 and 5’s shinies. Although, I do appreciate how Mimikyu’s color schemes are references to old gameboys. The regular colors being GBC and shiny being GB. Nice!
And I’m super sad that I saw the (what I’ll call) Eclipsed forms of Marshadow, Lunala, and Solgaleo. I’m also pretty sad I saw the Tikis and UBs. Hopefully I can forget…
Alolan Persian actually looks like a real life persian cat.
Alolan Persain looks so ugly. I was hoping for something more majestic. Not some chubby ass cheeked cat.
To me the Alolan Persion looks like a warped Garfield the Cat. It’s sooo ugly, and a huge disappointment for me personally since, Persion is one of my fave Pokemon.
What type is Golem supposed to be?
I love chocolate alolan raichu. Is that real?
Yeah the original one is maple syrup pancake form while this is chocolate pancake form.
Oh, thanks, i didn’t know that. It’s really cute.
I just noticed a distinct lack of fossil Pokemon.
Proof that there’s more to be revealed?
that moght very well be
Well gen 2 didn’t have fossils so it has happened before, but I’m crossing my fingers that there might be more.
Too late, ughh. xD
I need to get this in quickly before somebody mentions johto: Johto and Kanto and closely linked, Alola is very far away from other regions. It makes sense for Johto to have no fossils, it doesn’t for alola.
Alola is based on Hawaii which is a group of extremely new islands. Hawaii doesn’t really have fossil records of anything other than maybe some old plants or micro-organisms. I think it’s a safe bet to say there will be no fossil mons, especially with the inclusion of 5 old gen fossil Pokemon in the regional dex.
What are we thinking for marshadow? Typing, story, anything?
According to the rumors, Marshadow’s typing is unique to itself.
Also, what we’re seeing is the “sleep size” form.
So we’re missing some things yet again. Hopefully new pokemon are missing too?
Judging by its appearance and the fact it supposedly has an unique typing I’d say Ghost/Normal. Personally I hope Dark/Fairy. It kind of looks like a Tiki as well though, so perhaps Grass/Fire?
Dark fairy sounds awesome
Hoping gen 8 will have a Dark/Fairy imp Pokemon
After looking at it, I think it is UB-08, it opens its mouth and swallows solgaleo/lunala to have that galaxy effect in its mouth
I think it’s safe to say the “missing” sprites are the totem Pokemon. We already know Alolan Raticate, Gumshoos and Kommo-o are totem Pokemon and wouldn’t you know it, but three of the missing seven sprites come after them…
but maybe they arent sothere is still hope
Also Lurantis is mentioned to be totem in original site.
That’s a good hint. Imo also Vikavolt and Kommo-o are totem. Mimikyu too maybe cause it is the only ghost type not counting Oricorio. So maybe salandit 2 is a totem for poison.
What about sandyghast?
That makes zero sense. There are two missing sprites after Mimikyu, Mimikyu would not be a totem twice, and even if it was then why are there different sprites?
Becaus of its ability it has two model. One with head on and one with head down.
Oh. ._. JUST LET ME HAVE SOME HOPE!!
Zygarde has two Question Marks too.
I hope it’s a Totem Boss or something like that.
Probably the cell and core forms, but Zygarde being a totem Pokemon would be cool too.
Yeah probably, but I have some hope there will be more. But I” content with what we have as well
I hope they make up for the lack of pokemon in cool features and post game stuff, it’s hard to keep up hope right now.
I’m actually content with everything so far. I” only slightly disappointed with the number of new mons, but I still think the games will be awesome regardless.
I’ll get over it soon enough. It didn’t hinder my playthrough of XY at all (that award goes to many more things) so it likely won’t bother me too much here. I just hope the post game excites me now.
One thing is for sure, my teams are getting revamped if this is real, which it seems to be. I just wish Komala got an evolution, do we think there is still more to come though?
The demo was too short but whet my appetite for sure, Dat music, Mmmm. I must have waited for at least 2 minutes every time a new song came on, Skull theme for the win. :’D
Also I feel like I’m the only one who loves Alolan Persian. Easily my favourite Alolan form. I hope they have hidden abilities though cause I’d like to use Alolan Sandslash or Ninetales on my team, but “Snow Cloak” is just so useless on non-hail teams and I won’t be building a hail team just to use them.
At first, it looked off to me, but now that I think I understand why it’s designed that way, I like it 🙂
Care to explain?
How I think it’s designed? It’a meant to be like Purugly, in a way. Because it was spoiled so much, it doesn’t change much from its Meowth days but get bigger.
It becomes a real persian cat. You know it is raised by a high class family, so it becomes a clean-bred animal.
Does anyone have any idea what that new Spider Pokemon is based upon?
Nope, but it’s probably the creepiest pokemon I’ve ever seen
maybe a water spider or an Orb-weaver spider, but also a bit of a machine?
Steel/Poison? I NEED THAT IN MY LIFE
I’m really hoping its Electric/Poison but steel/poison would also be really cool
YES! Electric/Poison will also suffice
why do all the fan type combos have a 4x Ground weaknesses
why do you have a 4x grass and water weakness?
i am OG
Because so little have been actually made
Cause Ground is allmighty and we want to honor that
YO THAT WOULD BE SO HYPE!
watch out for Earthquake
daddy long legs with a futuristic theme. Reminds me of an enemy in pikmin
You’re right. Kinda looks like a daddy long legs.
I LOVE IT SO MUCH!
kinda looks like a bio-organic phytoplankton
Nope, but I want it on one of my playthrough teams. I’m hoping for a good typing that won’t be redundant with the other members.
I actually in all honesty want electric/ghost. I know Rotom exists but still
Wow, they went crazy this time, it’s like digimon meets transformers. Love it (especially the wimpod evo and the astronaut spiderish thing).
Anyone have a link to the reddit masterpost with the music links and everything?
Is it just me or does shiny bruxish look like a piranha plant from mario?
OH MY GOD IT DOES XD
Honestly, the song “It’s Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christmas” popped into my head. The color choice is… festive.
Still hope that this is just a part of the alolan dex. The little amount of pokemon is dissapointing but i hope the gameplay can cover this up.
How many people thought we’d get to visit Kalos after seeing ”The Kalos region” line was datamined? XD
Me XD
I mean, I thought that from when SM was announced.
I did at first till I finally downloaded the demo and saw it is just for Greninja. But I still believe we will!
I got my hopes up and then realized that Greninja is the main demo pokemon.
Do I need to mark spoilers from the demo?
Hi Star! 🙂 No, I think since it’s public knowledge/access that it’s fine.
Alright cool. I’m goona start writing about how amazing everything is after complaining for 3 hours last night
On a more positive note the things that I actually liked from the leaks:
1. Salandit’s evo
2. Wimpod’s evo
3. Rowlet’s shiny excites me a lot, those are some of my favorite colors on my favorite starter
4. I can’t wait to get a shiny Ribombee
5. Toucan looks good
6. I love the new UBs, I’m glad there’s so many. I think UB08 will be near the final boss of the game, it looks beastly, plus IT HAS A GALAXY IN IT’S MOUTH
Stupid s.
Toucan is good but also so random..
It’s a species change for the better IMO
I just wish it was a different line and not Pikpek ;_;
Same, I was really interested in seeing what would happen to Pikipek
I just love that the shiny version’s beak is the same colors as the bi flag. Might have to get one just for that reason.
I wanted a woodpecker. 🙁
I would’ve rather it have been a different line as well, but I like it, so eh, whatever.
I wouldnt have minded a steel and flying woodpecker.
Woodpeckers and toucans share a lot in common. They are both picidae and so share many traits.
Cutiefly’s shiny line is honestly my fav.
Where are the pictures?????? They are not here will someone give link or post them please?
So riding a sharpedo scares me…
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8fab68278c2932c94423a2b828e9e10b30fc63d343d38ce4fc0f8117321dc415.jpg
Predicting Totem Pokemon and Kahunas:
Normal: Raticate/Gumshoos
Grass: Lurantis
Fire: Tortunator/Alola Marowak
Water: Wishiwashi
Electric: Vikavolt
Poison: Salandit2
Dragon: Kommo-o
Flying: Pikipeck3/Oricorio
Ground: Mudsdale
Ghost: Mimikyu
Bug: Wimpod2
Fairy: Morellull2
Psychic: ?? Do we have anyone apart from Oricorio?
Ice: Alola Ninetales or Sandlash
Kahuna:
Fighting: Crabrowler2
Rock: Lycanrock
Dark: We don’t know any yet, probaly some Alola forms
Steel: we don’t know any yet apart from Togedemaru which, you know…
We have Bruxish and Oranguru.
Oh yeah, Oranguru would be perfect for moon and I think Bruxish is forced to sun.
we will probably get more pokemon because togedamaru is not a vey good choice imo
Alolan Sandslah is Steel 🙂
but not primary
I don’t think that matters with the Totem mons. Isn’t Alolan Raticate secondary dark?
Well, Raticate is primary dark but is in the normal trial
I think they all use at least one new pokemon. We saw crabrowler and Licanrock so I thought maybe the other rwo have one new pokemon of their type.
We have Bruxish (Water/Psychic).
There is also Oranguru but he is a version exclusive.
So do we actually get to catch other Pokemom in the demo or not?
Well although I’m not done with the demo, I wanna talk about what I love so far!
1.RIDING ON POKEMON FINALLY OMG!!! When I got the riding stuff I’m thinking “wait, can I actually ride this where ever? Then I hopped on and I just started smiling as I rode through the town. I’m so glad they finally did it the way we’ve wanted since Red/Blue (also I like how you have the riding gear on when you encounter a pokemon)
2. Plumeria is pretty awesome
3. Team Skull is hilarious and I love them. They seem to just enjoy being ganstas and they are perfect.
4.I’m building an army of yungoos.
5. The new battle interface is great. The short cut for pokeballs is great. Will make catching legendaries a bit less annoying
6. I think it is so funny how when Hankamo-o comes running at you the trainer just has this dopey grin on his face like a 5-6 ft dragon raptor monster isn’t about to slaughter him.
Wait, is there any way you can catch mons?
Yeah! After you do the trial you break the rock riding Tauros then you do a mini mission where you catch a ton of Yungoos and Pikipeks
But I mean, can you actually get them out of there
Rockruff are rare. >:|
But, that seems to be about all that’s in that specific area.
And Pikachews
You can also assign Ride Pokémon to the D-pad as a shortcut.
YOU CAN YESS
7. Once you have a full team you have the option to put the next pokemon caught into it and send the other away.
Hopefully that stays.
I’m going to try to level rockruff to 100, haven’t played at all yet though.
I just realized…with Salandit’s new evolution now leaked, I am officially naming mine “Yzma”
Lol.
http://24.media.tumblr.com/2fd950f1fa13610586f38a61295e513f/tumblr_n40k08gu1g1smcbm7o1_500.gif
Yzma used Confide.
http://66.media.tumblr.com/331fbcc9f65e3f71c43eca45f55c678b/tumblr_mrzk2twM4v1qahmklo3_500.gif
What about slutander?
Slutandit
You can’t enter those 1st 4 letters in that order.
So… what do we think of the four options we were given by the Riddler it is?
2/10. Not enough Emporer’s New Groove
Potentially the final team prediction update if we don’t miraculously get more pokemon:
SUN:
– Rowlet 3
– Salandit 2
– Pikipek 3
– Lycanroc
– Oricorio
– Kommo-o
MOON:
– Litten 3
– Alolan Raichu
– Alolan Sandslash
– Ribombee
– Lurantis
– Crabrawler 2
Popplio3
Mimikyu
Lurantis
Minior/Oricoro Yellow
Salandit
Alolan Ninetails/Jangmo-o/Lycanrock/Something else not really sure
I wanted to use Komala and Minior really bad because I thought they had some cool potential. TBH that’s what I’m most dissapointed in.
Gimmick pokemon always get the best things(excluding Delibird lol)
Rowlet
Lycanrock
Salandit
Kommo-o
No idea what else without type overlaps :/
Well you’d still need a water type right..?
There’s some interesting ones there at least
Might resort to Crabrawler as another fighting type. And the water types are really lackluster.
It’s fine if I have to go with only four. Did it last time in HGSS
Rowlet 3
Silvally
Kommo-o
Lycanroc
Mudsdale
Wimpod or Vikavolt
wait a second! when gam explain did there video after their two hour preview they said they were not even to the first trial yet, but had seen new pokemon they couldnt talk about, and from this leaked pokedex the only possible thing they could have seen is pikipeks evo… but would it appear so soon? something about that seems off
Alolan forms maybe
Yeah but at this point we knew of Ratatata and would anything else appear that early
Perhaps Diglett or Geodude
Its entirely possible for those two, more so geodude
I think they actually tried out a different demo. Not this public one. Not sure, though.
They played the actual first 2 hours of the actual game
That’s . . .actually a good point.
RIght??? Even serebii the other day said how strange it was to have this info present to us in the demo, almost like they expected us to find it
There’s not too much here, so it could very well be, albeit unlikely.
I don’t think this is the complete dex just because there’s only like 6 3-stage families (not including starters), which isn’t really a lot… And because there’s really no ice or dark types from what I can see that aren’t Alolan forms.
Crabarrabwler’s evo is assumed to be ice. And some other Pokemon can be Dark type as well.
:O
:DDDDDD THE HOPE IS ALIVE!! This along with the totem thing I just realized revitalize my hope, yay!
GamexPlain got to play the first 2 hours of the full game. The demo is scrubbed so that it doesn’t spoil anything
I know
Is there any way to ask them to confirm if there are pokes we havent seen?
hmm good question if there is though I doubt they would answer
Well they dont have to tell us what they saw, just a yes would suffice 🙂
What is this mysterious 7 I’m hearing about?
The UBs?
Something about 7 sprites not being in the code. And some people are saying its totem pokemon, some say it’s missing pokemon.
I don’t see how it could be totems TBH. These are stills from the pokedex, not the in game models.
I think they say it’s totem because they are after ones we know of totems, and one is between Raticate and Spearow, and those are next to each other in the dex
But that would mean that totem pokemon have their own dex entry?
I know, it’s strange, if it wasn’t for the ones after raticate and zygarde, I’d say new pokemon
Yes. That’s tru. But for some reason there are missing sprites right after a bunch of supposed totem pokemon like Gumshoos and Alolan Raticate.
Hopefully you’re right tho
Well I mean, there are two after Jang… So maybe two more legends? 😀
Maybe.
It all comes together, when 7 becomes one. There’s also 7 Ultra Beasts 😉
I dont know why the hell alolan dugtrio exits and why the fuck doest it have a human hair cut…they are trying to make a lot of ridiculously goofly looking pokemon with human traits, I’m pretty sure its because of yokai watch
Popplio 3 has human-like hair, so does Gumshoos, Drampa, Dartrix, Tsareena etc…GF was obsessed with hair styles this gen
Okay but can we talk about the Plumeria battle music? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYc2IoG9eX8
The part around :55 sounds very yokai watch influenced.
All of Skull’s themes have been top notch, imo
Apparently you get 10 pretty wings from the guy outside the pokemon center tomorrow so I wonder if wings are making a return
pretty wings are present in every game since BW
Oh! I didn’t know that. Are they just sold for money?
poorly
I’m so happy they went with black sand for shiny palosand
Yah that’s really cool
Rowlet, Ribombee, and Vikavlot have outstanding shinies IMO.
i’m honestly not disappointed by a single shiny this gen. some aren’t as great as others, but they’re all amazing to me
I reeally wanted Pikipek to be blue and white. That’s just insult to injury. There were some pretty good shinies though. I love how Lunaala is a blood moon.
Don’t forget Minior 🙂
Ok seriously though, what type do you think Golem is? It just look rock to me.
Rock Dark or Rock Steel?
im thinking rock steel probably
Rock/Electric. Apparently based off lodestones.
That’s really cool.
Oh wow I didn’t think of that I think that’s a new type combo!
and you base this on nothing
Apparently the designs are based off lodestones, which are pretty damn conductive.
alright what makes you think that
You should be happy with Rock/Electric. 4x Ground weakness
i’m not, they took away its ground typing, bad the design is beyond awful
But, if it IS rock/electric and is a lodestone…that means that thing on its back is a freaking Railgun
Inb4 spamming Zap Cannon just because it looks satisfying
OMG DONT SCREW WITH MY HEAD FAM. ROCK/ELECTRIC? LIFE COMPLETE
Rock/electric.
Rock/electric
It’s weird back growth just reminds me of a taser lol
The “facial hair” gives me Probopass vibes
#EvolveRibombee2k16
#EvolveKomala2k16
#EvolvePyuku2k16
we still have a chance
oh and #evolveminior2k16
All I want is an evolution for Komala and Pyukumuku and I’m good this gen
#EvolveMinior2k16
#NoPleaseKeepRibombeeAsItIsItAlreadyLooksPerfect
Dont forget minior 🙂 I just wish they would make all pokemon evolve
Still no clue on anything
We Team Rocket now trying to force pokemon to evolve? 😛
I mean when they did that they got shinies too so yes.
Great point
GLORY FOR TEAM ROCKET!
Yes all of these desperately need evos
LIKE RIBOMBEE IS SO CUTE BUT IT NEEDS ONE MORE STAGE
something like leavanny plz
they’re not going to evolve further, get over it
Mysterious 7. Mysterious 7. I still have hope.
Mysterious 7?
Yes, honestly they just gave it a ribbon scarf… thats not enough
Wouldn’t mind another evo but I like it as it is too 🙂
Komala HAS to evolve – it just HAS to. Ribombee id also really like to see evolve
I think Ribombee will have a pre-evolution, and will be the second evolution of Cutiefly. Notice how Cutiefly has one ring on it’s wings, Ribombee has three rings… It’s possible that there is a evolution between the two, and will have two rings. Much like Fletchling had one stripe, and when it finally evolved into Talonflame it had three stripes. There have been others but I think you get the point. This is just my theory anyways.
Not surprised that Pyukumuku didn’t get an evolution, but wow Komala really?
Most likely they do have evos but either they weren’t in the leaks or the data miners didn’t want to spoil ALL the pokemon.
I heard they haven´t found all pokemon but there are not many left unknown.
I saw the leak and Wimpod appears to be missing a middle evolution stage
You could say the same about Magikarp and Feebas lines.
during the capture challenge, can we find shinies?
I would be sad if we could, cause I think we can’t transfer them.
I download the demo and I use Citra to open it , but damin slow…so I cut it out.
Someone help me give me some insight on what they look like if we know please I’m begging y’all
Insight on what?
Whole Dex including new alolan forms and pokemon
http://imgur.com/gallery/5C8ry
Thank you just what I want to see
Why a ? next to Raticate?!
We don’t know
Hmmm… mine won’t load past Blissey on the screen of my IPod and demo is barely loading
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwpIhRkAlRw
Is UBs are based on characters debate still going on? Because one of the UBs look like Guzma. Lel.
The fact that there ever was a debate about it makes me laugh tbh. Their French names are Ultra Chimeras for crying out loud
But I believe the point of origin of design of UBs might have something to do with characters in game. Not a story-wise thing though.
This UB, for instance ,even has three legs like Guzma.
Yes, they are humans but also Pokemon. Hence why they have shinies, but wont be catchable.
*Sigh*
They WILL be catchable, it would be absolutely POINTLESS for them to have shiny forms, if they weren’t catchable at some point in time. No body would be interested in a shiny form if they couldn’t obtain it.
*sigh*
You had to fight objects (like that UFO) etc. in Pokewood, too – they also had shiny forms, but weren’t actually catchable
someone wrote there had to be shinies, so the game wouldn’t crash…
2nd try
https://twitter.com/McfStuart/status/788439007856320512
it worked the first time? I don’t think you can do a spoiler image sorry
I don’t want to spoil it for everyone… so
here is the link:
“https://twitter.com/McfStuart/status/78843900785632051 2”
delete the space inbetween 1 and 2 at the end
I’m giving it up – disqus hates me…….
Gimmick Pokémon don’t evolve!? Since when!?
Delibird is on the scene!
Shuckle
Volbeat
Klefki]
Maractus
Carnivine
I’m being a smart ass cause it seems people all over the Internet are shocked by the lack of gimmick evos.
The lack of one new ice line where ice is present the whole time makes me think we’re missing pokemon.
But I also don’t think this leak was on purpose as a part of marketing. It’s making them looking bad and sloppy.
So… since Diamond and Pearl introduced so many new evolutions of old Pokémon, will the remakes do the same this gen?
Gosh I hope so. Heliolisk and so many others could benefit from that treatment.
Maybe Sinnoninan evolutions?
Are we sure we’re getting a sinnoh remake?
Are you really believing we won’t? Of course we will (however, it’s not sure when).
I mean, it doesn’t follow the remake pattern really. There’s been a remake for every new handhold console, and we just had a 3ds remake (ORAS).
But needless to say I’m all for it!
well that’s not the right approach
all the those Pokemon evolved via a newly discovered item or method unknown to the public
Can’t we consider Alolan formes as ”new evolutions of old Pokemon”?
absolutely not
No, they’re forms like you said yourself. The way they’re executed now, they are really lazy excuses of Pokémon.
Well, Darwinian evolutions
I will say that I really like Crabrawlers evo. I didnt like it before I knew it evolved but if it really turns into an ice type I will be using it.
IF Litten3 is Fire/Fighting, I might have to go for Popplio in Moon. I have serious issues with Fire/Fighting starters. Infernape is the only one thats actually good.
Uh…Blaziken?
Blaziken is not very good tbh
Isn’t it one of the only pokemon whose non mega and mega are both in OU?
Uber*
thanks my brain derped, meant to type the highest tier lol.
I prefer Emboar over the other two myself
Blasfemy
Emboar is my favorite starter
Feralagator and Typhlosion are mine, Emboar is like 4th
now i root for fire/fighting
I happen to like Fire/Fighting
Wanted Fire/Dark or Fire/Ground myself. Houndoom and Camerupt dedication needed
Fire/ground is clearly not happening
I like Blaziken more than Infernape personally.
Emboar is definitely the worst
I’m pretty sure it will be dark. Because Rowlet would have an advantage over litten3 meaning(if it is a fairy type) Popplio and Rowlet would be better choices for starters over all. But, I’ve seen GF make some odd decisions before… (Looking at you, Alolan Diglett)
Rowlet lines remains Grass/Flying imo.
The fairy part is meant for Pop3
But I could see how I type that that it is confusing lol
Oh right. But Popplio is already strong against Litten anyway. If Litten3 is Fire/Dark and Popplio3 Water/Fairy, Fairy moves wouldn’t be supereffective because Fairy moves are not effective against Fire
I was just commenting on how overshadowed Litten3 would be especially if pop3 is a fairy 🙂
So fire/Dark makes the most sense to me :3
Question time
What secondary types would you like to see on a Gen 8 starter?
Grass: Fairy or Rock
Fire: Ghost or Electric
Water: Ghost or Ice
Grass/Fire
Fire/Water
Water/Grass
Grass/Fairy
Water/Fairy
Water/Fairy
I just want fairies. I love fairies
I’d love to see a fairy, ice or ghost starter.
Grass/Electric
Fire
Water/Poison
Grass/Electric
Fire/Poison
Water/Ghost
Grass psychic
Fire ground
Water electric
Oh so you have to release all of the pokemon you catch -.-
Yup so irritated that I farmed for that pickachu after KOing the first lol
Wow never saw the day… That I saw something I can’t believe Komala no Evo.?
There’s still a very good chance
I KNOW RIGHT WHAT WERE THEY THINKING
I dont understand them, they could have made some really cool alolan forms for pokemon from diferent gens but instead they went and fucked up the kanto pokemon…like srsly so many of them looks lazy af, they either give them a fabulous hair, a mustache/beard and making them curvy, like wth is that persian !? some of them had good back story but this is pure crap, I dont know if thats the effect of yokai watch or what…but this is wrong
I have a feeling we haven’t seen all of it yet
Why is Yo-kai watch suddenly a scape goat for everything we dislike about SuMo?
because yokai watch sold more units than pokemon last year, and every one saw yokai watch as a serious threat to pokemon because of its wide expanding popularity, and it seems that pokemon saw it as a threat as well,…also yokai watch also a collect monster game, but their mosnters looks so ridicoules and so humanoid
Pokemon is still a powerhouse though. Second highest grossing videogame franchise. Im also pretty sure yokai watch isnt as popular outside of Japan
Yokai Watch sold more than Pokemon because there wasn’t a pokemon game last year
no I mean the where ORAS came out, also I think the anime became more popular
Remakes always sell less though
that was not expacted at all back then, its still a pokemon game.
https://com360bu.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/pokemon-games-chart.png
Remakes sold less then their original counterparts
it still a pokemon game compared to some newly made game that seems similar to pokemon, also its not just the game, the whole franshise got so popular so fast, which was definetly seen as threat
Pokemon X and Y is the best selling game on the 3DS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_Nintendo_3DS_video_games
With ORAS in 3rd place just behind Mario Kart 7.
Yokai Watch also does not have international appeal as the creatures are based on Japanese Yokai which people aren’t as familiar with in other parts of the world. It is a new property HEAVILY advertised by Nintendo. It is going to do well, but it can’t overtake Pokemon.
it came out internationaly like 1 year after the japanese release, and I was talking about the japanese sales, ofc Yo kai watch is not a threat to pokemon, but bear in mind that what you think is not a big of a deal to you can be something serous to the creators of pokemon.
I also cant find any other explantion to why so many pokemon, espacially alolan forms look like this, like they even managed to make goofly looking pokemon look even goofier than before, like dugtrio, these hair cuts than so many pokemon have now was never a pokemo nthing, even Jynx wich is based on humans didnt have a hair cut or anything like that.
Just because you don’t know why the Alolan forms don’t look good (most of them are actually good. See Ninetails,Sandslash and Marowak) doesn’t mean it is because of Yokai Watch. If you slow down and stop jumping to “YOKAI WATCH IS KILLING POKEMON” And look at the facts then you will know that Pokemon isn’t going anywhere. Mario didn’t die when other platformers came out.
where did I say “YOKAI WATCH IS KILLING POKEMON” ? and I didnt say that all alolan forms look bad, the ones you listed are by far the best of them, you have persian, golem line, diglett line, look crap, I didnt even check the rest of the pokedex to avoid spoilers.
like did you even read my whole comment ? I guess not
Uh, Persian looks fine(looks like a real persian cat), how dare you insult my Sia Dugtrio, Golem looks great.
its like alolan meowths body evolved and the his head didnt
Look up pictures of persian cats, then look at that alolan persian again. makes sense.
I know them, they actually have long hair covering their whole bodies, not huge heads
They also have super flat faces
I did read your comment actually and that was my response. That argument is alot like this http://wp.production.patheos.com/blogs/daylightatheism/files/2014/01/StrawMan2.jpg
While Persian isn’t took good looking, Golem and Digless are fine. I think Diglett is hilarious actually. Blaming Yokai Watch for designs you dislike makes no sense
Wow I’m suprised by emerald. That was a great game, so I am surprised it didn’t do as well as the others.
The alolan forms suck. Very much.
For just one moment I thought that choosing Poppulosity would have avoided me to see Tony the Tiger. Then I realized Hau is getting the starters weak to your and I was like: meh -.-‘
That’s why you choose Rowlet.
That would be the only reason for me. But queen fabulosity does not allow me to.
Ok ok but can we agree that Marshadow is one of the cutest pokemon ever?
it reminds me or Espurr
No body expected it to be so cute! Everyone thought it would be some huge beast but nope. It’s a cute Li’l shadow baby 😀
tbh it is cute, but Lunala puff is cuter
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/d/d3/231Phanpy.png
That’s a solid argument right there
it’s cute, but have you considered Goomy?
what about THIS
http://img05.deviantart.net/80aa/i/2015/118/7/a/sandshrew_for_noodlez_by_tsukiakari_neko-d3tfihz.jpg
Also cute…BUT HAVE YOU CONSIDERED GOOMY!?
the slug is not my lord
It doesn’t have to be, but it is one of the absolute CUTEST pokemon ever. Period. and that is objective.
A Sluglord?
Goomy isn’t that cute… lol
Goomy is the definition of cuteness. Look it up.
Weird… this one came up https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0aa85fe677c7e2e5fa18f7e18adb18e7691acda43ab2aa433dbdd397b1d59c25.gif
Goomy is adorable af lol. And its anime voice absolutely finishes it off
Goomy is cute, BUT not as cute as sandshrew on Mudkip. Lol
Goomy is so cute that it fucking hurts
but I think pichu is really great in terms of cuteness too
goomy looks derpy af…..ive never understood the fascination with it honestly and goodra is gross…..purple slimy stuff eww lol
You’re dead to me.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/28e107a15ad68d149ea25255fa182341d3369040ad515e0939d8b752a5896f64.jpg
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ADORABLE <3 <3
You’ve just reminded how cute phanpy is.
No we cannot
Well then we’re going to have a problem
You may be having a problem.
Me? I don’t deal with problems :p
You think I’m actually going to deal with this problem? Ha! You overestimate me!
Agree……but don’t judge by the appearance this thing hide a true terror.
Which one is Marshadow?
Tiny shadow baby
I want a thousand of them
I want to hug it and never let go!
The one that is at the very bottom?
Yes
Thanks. So cute!
Fun fact: demo Greninja’s ID is 131017. Thats October 17th 2013. The date of when Ash catched Froakie in the Japanese dub
Lucky sun of a b*tch mine an error occurred at school and I can’t get it till I’m home
Make the connection (rf) https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d251cbb0046694f401d5decbc101d65013c1ff502e2b67d90f0fbba59c4627fa.jpg
And Hala owns a Crabrawler!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH UNREAL
”But Pokemon is a children’s game”
Interspatial fusions lmao
Um… well… Hala wears yellow and blue, and I gues that’s the color scheme and I guess you could say the pose is similar. And oooh.. oooh, um… They both have a dark skin complexion?
And the fact that its a crab and Hala has a Crabrawler?
LOL
That’s not really fair. Hala will be disappointed by seeing how UB see him XD
and I have tried everything to get it into a spoiler 😀
nothing worked, so I gave up
should just have posted it
but thanks anyway 🙂
“It seems that lessons haven’t been learned from Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire and the demo files contain information on some currently unannounced Pokémon and over information”
> Tbh, it takes a lot of effort to make a separate demo that isn’t based on the complete game. That’s extra time that is best to utilize for actual development for the final product. So it’s impractical from programming standpoint, although it comes with the downside of basically revealing details from the finished product.
“The leaked Starter Pokémon evolutions are real”
> Great news! Because I’ve liked all three since the first time they were leaked. Not we only need their names…
I don’t think that’s Komala is shiny …..they look the same but with different color item maybe it will follow Farfetch’d and Marwake pattern. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/804c5c3af8256d15d7831901130f3f7eaf244aa0bfd82cc439ca8338f51105d2.png https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f6e85f95cf9c5c59c5a539c16c49e5a42b7fdb466619060cfe1d104a0b412f50.png
it’s slightly darker
Yeah I can notice that now not really now but when I use photo viewer and hide the log pillow with my finger …it exactly the same.
its illusion since its holding a bright color it looks darker.
Before we were speculating the UB’s were related to people we’ve seen, but the rest of these UB’s don’t really resemble anyone, though actually theres one that could resemble Guzma
What? (rf) https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/11ce2485d85e973d161545068ee6ec8f61ba4b6882437e5c656a64e969bce464.jpg
top right could be the guy with thr green glasses?
Yes, and the top right bottom is Hala
i can see that!
3 is Olivia, 8 is Hala
The fat one is Mr. Krabs
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/79ffc78f2d9354536358558d386443dc8dce3d270bdd2772f071b53101bbbea5.png
I believe one looks like Lysandre. But that’s probably wrong.
Ehh nobody knows what happened with Lysandre, so maybe?
Anyone that we know.
Does anyone else feel like you’ve seen the Tapu Kokos before?
Yeh one of them is a Shelmet
Also what does shiny Minior look like?
Gold, I would hope. 😛
I thought thats what the black was
It’s black with multi-colored specks.
I’ll spend as many hours as I need to hatch myself one of those – and If the IVs aren’t good, I can train ’em up! ^^
Pokemon X/Y: 71 New pokemon + 30 Mega Evolutions = 101 total
Pokemon S/M: 73 New pokemon + 18 Alola Forms + 8 Ubs = 99 Total.
That moment in which you realize x/y introduced more new stuff then s/m.
+ 7 mystery mons
Joe Merrick is fairly certain those are the Totem Pokemon though
Why would they be Totem pokemon though?
I’ve been asking the same question. They’re literally just regular Pokemon with increased stats. I dont see why they would have seperate dex entries.
Maybe because they have aura coming from them they have seperate models.
Hmm fair point
The real question is: why only 6 pokemon have the totem models? I mean I can see, Normal, Grass, Dragon, Electric, Ghost and Fire. Are these all the trials? Those actually match the captains we have except for Dragon (the ghost captain is the creepy girl seen in the demo video)
Wasn’t wishiwashi a totem?
That makes no sense. WThe aura would just be an extra texture with some partical effects. Making a model of it would be redundant
Well it may or may not. IDK. I’m not a developer. But from what I’ve known Alolan Raticate has question mark after it, Gumshoos has question mark after it, Lurantis has question mark after it. I can’t check if I forgot one but at least these three are confirmed to be a totem Pokemon.
And, the one after Raticate is before Spearow, and they are right next to each other in the Dex
There’s one after raticate in the dex of Kanto Pokemon.
Those questions marks seem to follow the totem pokemon (Lurantis, Gumshoos, Kammo-o and some not yer revealed. Those are probably their totem models (2 for mimikyu because of its ability)
I still feel like there’s more. There’s so much evidence leading to the fact that we haven’t seen everything
No ice or ghost full lines!
I know 🙁
Ehh but S/M is in almost every way superior. Some XY designs are very good though
Well unless magearna is the only event legendary, there will maybe be more.
Omg what if GF actually learned to not put the mythical pokemon in the data and put in updates so you can access the events.
probably not
Thats a nice thought, but seeing as how they forgot to wipe the shinies I bet they’re not that smart
My (terrible and rushed) idea for a cutiefly evo vs final
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/68b4575f30c817ac7772acb8865bd20f1520f3bacf903ea1cc478ae412e330ed.png https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d323e7f13ad192628ba00eaa11b6b3047f257bcfc2c04cc32b1ea5c6fed7d04f.jpg
Can someone clarify for me please. I’m seeing mixed things about what was leaked. Is this the full list of new and alola Pokémon, or are there still some we don’t know about?
there is some info that these may not be all of them.
That would be great! I like a lot of what I’m seeing but if this is it, it would feel like a huge missed opportunity for a cool concept in alola forms and a huge new game with new in game structure to have so few new Pokémon.
A lot of people think this is the full pokedex, but some (like me) believe there are more that we dont know of yet
If you watch a Verlisify video, I know I dunno why I watch them but I still od the guy has good ideas when it comes to trailer breakdowns, he points out what seems to be a rabbit with pink ears and blaack tips, now most believe it’s a Snubble, but it’s not clear, and that clearly hasn’t been leaked, so if that does exist
I actually pointed out the rabbit with pink ears weeks ago. Like I said, I really don’t think that this is the full dex. I think GF purposely added these unrevealed mons (the final starter evos are among them, and Masuda confirmed them as real 2 days ago) as sort of free marketing and to catch us offguard.
We don’t talk about that trashlord here.
Tough, the guy might be an arse, but he notices things.
The Palossand line is my favorite Gen 7 pokemon
Aside from the alolans, that line is probably in my top 3 least favorites
https://66.media.tumblr.com/a16592e3b5831e4f9e824c4c2a58d2c9/tumblr_inline_oa562oBAfx1re7j82_500.gif
Sorry to disappoint
did you saw shiny vikavolt?
Yeah its pretty sweet…but I may have to wait to have one because I want to use wimpod
is one of my fav shinies! they really did good shinies this gen
shiny rowlet is amazing. Kinda bummed shiny popplio3 doesnt have red hair like ariel
It’s a blonde bombshell
Do i have to go get Pym and have you disassembled again?
He can try. And fail.
What are the other 2?
Probs yungoos and bewear lines.
I respect the unique opinion even it’s not a one of my favorite.
I’m kind of neutral towards it, but that shiny looks CLEAN
it shiny made it love it even more
I agree. I love the line. One of my faves this gen
i really hope is good competitive. I want that sandcastle to be the new hippowdown
It would have been amazing if Water Compaction gave it a Water immunity. Or even cut Water damage by half. But unfortunately doesn’t seem that way. Still love the Pokemom though.
I cannot wait to play competitve this gen for the next to months.
Just beat the trial in the demo!! This game is amazing!!! I can’t wait to play the full game!! I will say the game play feels different. Not in a bad way, but the feel of movement is kind of different….idk anyone else think this? lol
The camera dynamic is what gets me.
I also love that the Pokemon attacks you if you snap it. I hope this always happens in the full game. It adds a new dimension to Pokemon catching.
Are people really upset, if it turns out there are no fossils? It makes sense, since Hawaii are fairly new islands and have no record of fossils or any archaeological findings.
And we get the Gen 4 and 5 fossils, and Aerodactyl in the regional Dex, giving us 5.
Fossil Pokemon are the few they tend to be creative with.
Aquatic fossils breh
Fair point but I think they shouldn’t make fossils, just for the sake of it.
I think they should, or they should make 2 fossil bird pokemon for Moa and Haast’s eagle from New Zealand.
Gen 8 region based on NZ and Aus imo
This would be the perfect opportunity to create some marine fossil pokemon then. I struggle to believe that this is ALL the pokemon in the game though. If the total was so close to that of XY i dont think they would have been revealing so many so quickly throughout the year.
If the ? sprites are indeed Totem Pokemon, for whatever reason, (It’s likely they are because theres one after Raticate and before Spearow and theres nothing between them in the national Dex) that would mean Zygarde is one too, and that’s an interesting Prospect, could it hint at a Boss Batt? http://imgur.com/gallery/5C8ry
Would assume that since you have to gather Zygarde Cells to complete it, you’d have to battle it as well.
I expected a battle, but not a Totem one, I wonder what it would call.
Interesting that it doesn’t include 100%
Xerneas in Sun, Yveltal in Moon
Oh that would be pretty cool, if not completely Deadly
maybe those are just the cores and the cells models
then they’d be before 10%, not after 50%
What scares me is that there are just 7 question marks: Normal; Grass; Fire; Electric; Dragon; Ghost (Mimikyu probably has two because of the head up and down for its ability). But we know for sure there’s a water captain and that wishiwashi looked like a totem in the trailer. So what?
Perhaps it was a boss, but not a totem, as in, it can’t call other pokemon
my team as for rn:
-rowlett
-palossand
-alolan vulpix
-salandit
-vikabolt/spider mon
-a water type (either lanturn or the starfish)
Lol spidermon
Komala *picks up white log*
Komala: im shiny now :3
omfg stop!! lol his shiny is literallly garchomp realness. is barely noticeable same with marshadow
Komala: but but my log makes me shiny not my fur :3
I definitely think we’re missing new Pokemon because Komala HAS to evolve it just HAS to tbh
My team atm:
Rowlet
Rockruff
Alolan Professor Oak
Oh yeah I forgot about that.
What type is Oak again?
Fairy
Always the fairies I hate them soooo much
Some people here think Alolan Diglett/Dugtrio Ground/Fairy. Hope its not true
I want Alolan Dugtrio to be ground/grass type you know stuff coming out of Diglet is like a sprout, more like potato sprout.
I absolute love Torterra so another Grass/Ground or Ground/Grass would be amazing 🙂
It was a joke, since gay guys are often called fairies. Please stop using ctrl+f to find comments containing the word “fairy” so you can reply to them that you hate the type.
Mullet type.
On the bright side, at least it disproves the Riddler.
BUT BUT THE RIDDLER SAID TOUCAN IS REAL AND PIKIPEK FINAL EVO IS A TOUCAN
I know you are joking but he didn’t add that until the toucan was seen on that girl’s shirt
True. But he predicted stuff like Sandygast/Pallosand, Team Skull, Mimikyu and Pyukumuku
That was ages ago though, he should have known when to stop.
He only mentioned the Toucan after someone else spotted it on the shirt, and he had it listed separately from Pikipek.
Yes, it is heart soothing that everything he has said so far is a big fat lie.
Bit overdramatic, he has said some things that came out true
I’m just being sarcastic. Nothing she has said is a lie.
I think he had a bit of Info, but winged the rest creating the illusion he knew it all
Yeah, but doing the latter thing makes him a bad person. He should have just said “that’s all I’ve got, I don’t know any more, sorry”, but instead he choice to attempt to deceive people.
Pretty sure there’s stuff missing though.
the only way I can forgive GF for not evolving Komala and Minior is if they gave stupid crazy stats thats makes them competitive viable
And Pyuku
Pyuku’s ability is great. You have to chip it down or it just wrecks you.
no more triple battles?
Dat Wimpod evo tho lol
Yo, can we actually get a fanart of Kukui as Captain Falcon saying “Show me your moves”?
I would like to second this
THIS IS IMPORTANT
http://imgur.com/gallery/ax8ntLA
OMG YES!
I WAS JUST ABOUT TO POST ABOUT THIS HOW DARE YOU. 😉
Just tried it OMG hahaha
was that a dab
hahahahahaha so cool !!
So the characters at the end of the demo video. Kahunas or trial captains? What people think?
2 trial Captains, 1 kahuna
Makes you wonder if those ar the last trial captains to be revealed. With all the news site saying that there are only 7 total trials you have to wonder lol
They can be seven actually, I mean, assuming Vikavolt, Salandit2, Gumshoos/Raticate, Lurantis, Kommo-o, Mimikyu are all Totem Pokemon becuase of the question marks. But where’s the water totem (that should be wishiwashi)?
I already answered that for you. A Boss Pokemon that can’t call other pokemon.
I think the ghost girl is the Ghost type captain cause there’s a question mark next to Mimikyu so probably it is a totem. While the other two are the the two kahuna missing, ground type with mudsdale and Flying type with, well, Pelliper.
When does the girl appear that lets you view Dugtrio?
I feel that there are more pokemon. Afterall, it is just a demo.
Also, was it actually datamined or were these pokemon just seen in the demo; or both?
both
I love your profile pic
Noted; well, I was hoping it was just seen haha
It does seem like they sort of learned from the ORAS demo. No text really. Only models of Pokemon and some basic info.
Can someone explain why everyone is saying that the leaks are all the new pokemon I think there are going to be way more pokemon. Like more evos
I guess because the game was datamined. I feel there may be a bit more but not too much. Holding out for a Komala and Minior evolution
And pyukumuku.
And Ribombee
OMG according to Polygon Lillie has the pre evo/form of the main legendary pokemon in each game. I’m pretty sure that pokemon was hiding in her bag in the early footage we saw in E3.
http://www.polygon.com/2016/10/18/13316660/pokemon-sun-and-moon-pokemon-list-leak-pokedex
This makes sense actually lol
According to Polygon: ”All we know about it is that it says “Pewpy” a lot … so one would think that’s its name, right? We have no clue, but it seems likely.”
Makes sense, was hoping Zygarde core but this is similair
So something interesting I found was that the UB’s have shiny models. Maybe they can get caught after all?
Didn’t some of the pokestar props have shiny versions as well in b2/w2
New gameexplain, mild spoilers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9Qpz6cDBvA
wow THEY PLAYED MORE????
First 20 minutes but they got more info this time
I think the one thing I hate about these games is that it makes you press A in order to enter buildings……….
Means there are full loading screens which means they can actually flesh out interiors.
That’s true I guess…..lol
It should really make you knock and wait a few seconds. Randomly barging into people’s houses is rude.
I’M AN INTRUSIVE PERSON!!!! hahaha
I am hoping Popplio 3’s hair is customisable, I’ll give it red hair in that case. And am I the only one who remembers Mawile when looking at the amazon TCG leaked Pokemon?
You want it to be like Ariel?
Yes
Would be pretty cool. I’d like to make mine Pink like Shirahoshi from One Piece.
That’s even better lol
Yowahoshi.
People are unlocking so many things in the demo, and I’m still over here trying to figure out how to see Dugtrio. 🙁
I’m still just riding Tauros around.
Something fun and useless you can do go back with tauros where that man stand behind all thkse rocks he says that you have to go away but just keep heading back
He’s a weirdo, I must know his secrets. Is he there because he’s on some sort of Register or something?
I need to know the truth behind that smile.
I wonder what he was doing behind that Rock, he doesn’t like you going there, perhaps he has something stashed there so bribes you with Stardust ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Its with Pokefinder right? I haven’t come across any spot outside the Trial location?
Apparently there’s a girl on the beach you talk to, but she hasn’t appeared for me.
At least you’re playing. I’m at work hahaha
I left school early. 😛
Here’s something else super cool. I just used the Poke ride app and then went into tall grass and entered a battle. My model is wearing the Poke ride outfit!!!
So the guys who played the first two hours of the real game said that they encountered some pokemon we haven’t seen and couldn’t talk about. What could those have been? All the pokemon in the dex that was datamined that we now know about come way later in the dex making me assume it’s because they’re on different islands that they didn’t even get to…
Could the complete dex still be under wraps?
Could be Geodude and Diglett
It’s possible that they removed some based on some of the dexes I’ve seen (in particular I haven’t seen anyone listing numbers alongside the pokemon yet).
Marshadow looks too incomplete to not have an alt form or an evo.
i need to see Salandit’s evolution in action. It looks ehhuhwudhqwuf idk
Hopes for type of Crabrawler
Fighting/Ice
I mean if you look it’s a Yeti crab basis so Yeti’s live in fridgid climates (or speculated to) so my guess shall stand it also gives us an Ice type but proves the first ever leak possibly somewhat wrong knowing… no Snowman
Crabrawler evo at least
It is the snowman I think. Also I think the dex is incomplete because:
1. Gamexplain found pokemon they couldn’t talk about early game, and that isn’t shown here at all.
2. The 7 can’t be totems, because these are pokedex stills
THERE IS STILL HOPE
Explain number 1??
Go look at the new leaked pokemon. Do you think any of them we haven’t seen look early game? Early as in the first two hours? They sure as h*ll don’t to me.
Some of them might be early (like Geodude or that clear bug thing).
But I believe Yeti crab didn’t live in a snow right?
Crabrawler evo is a “snow” crab because yeti…get it? Laugh.
no:( explain the pun
Snow crab is a type of crab.
like the one from red lobster?
The food you mean? Probably.
yeah lol
Yeti….snow….a play on the animal name snowcrab
Something that really caught my attention, is that everywhere you walk you hear Pokemon cries. Thats actually amazing. It makes the game feel so much more alive and vibrant
I spent several minutes trying to figure out where the Pokemon was coming from. I could’ve sworn it was behind the police station, but when I would check it would seemingly move out front. :p
Malshadow sounds alot better than Marshadow
Marshmallow sounds better than both.
I’ve grown quite attached to the name Marshadow.
That wouldn’t make sense, it’s not bad or evil.
Mars probably comes from the planet (red planet, red eyes).
About to start the demo, finally! ^_^
well, just like a random youtuber said ” the game looks great but too bad most of the new pokemon looks auwful”
I Love all the new pokemon hoping for evolution for minior pyukumuku and komala
good for you
What youtuber?
The game looks great, but too bad people think a franchise must cater to their individual desires and are subsequently incapable of appreciating Pokemon for their creativity. :/
actually thats what you are doing now, just because people dont like some designs they are automatically haters that need to die
“Haters need to die”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXzEcwYs8Eo
thats exactly how you guys think, you like all of the pokemon then you are good, if you didnt like some of them you are a hater who dont appreciate anything
lol not really.
There’s your problem though. You’re tackling this argument under the assumption that liking=appreciating, which simply isn’t true. You can dislike a Pokemon and still appreciate the origin and days, weeks, or months of thought that went into making it.
Example: I don’t like Vanilluxe too much but the thought behind it is surprisingly clever!
Precisely! I’m glad my thoughts are getting across here. I wasn’t sure if I was making sense.
Please don’t put words in my mouth as I never have, and never would, say something so insensitive. You’re entitled to your opinion, but you haven’t even given them a chance. I rarely like a Pokemon the same day it’s revealed, but eventually I come to appreciate each one even if I don’t necessarily like it.
if you think they look great than its good for you, but dont accuse others who didnt like it that they dont appreciate the effort and creativity, as if there is no other choice but to love them.
What we have looks great, I’m just dissapointed at some wasted potential.
Minor qualm: The text is so low it looks like it’s touching the bottom of the screen in the cutscene.
EDIT: I mean the bottom of the screen.
Okay but did anyone notice that Shiny Bewear is an actual red panda?
Closer at least. Much better than it’s regular form. Still not how I’d like it but an improvement.
Yep, still disappointed because it still sucks.
Question Time
Who do you think is the best Tapu and why?
I really like the Fighting one, it’s very masculine and I like the colors.
i like the nautilus the most. The bull looks like it has a book stuck on his horns
I think the Sword Fish one but they are all really cool! Except Mr. Red and Yellow. I don’t know what that is
Koko, but I haven’t seen the others in action.
I like the swordfish/dolphin? one <3
I thought running was default? Is that only in the full game?
Yes. The guys from GamexPlain actually played the first 2 hours of the full game, not the demo
He said he was wrong. You have to push B also in the game
Will know 27 oct if there are more pokemon then the leak shows
hopefully we get a komala evolution and a turtonator pre evo , ill be happy then.
I hope for evos for minior or pyukumuku I just need to see them evolve
Can’t see a Tortunator prevo happening, but I do wan’t Komala to evolve.
I just hope theres more pokemon that we haven’t seen yet
So is Marshadow like semi-confirmed a legendary??
It comes after magearna so a Mythical yes
I guess it’s in the same form as pre-solgaleo/lunala and we have yet to see the real form of marshadow
If it’s mythical then what’s the third legendary?
Marshadow final form is the final part of the trio
Either there isn’t one, we haven’t seen it, or Marshadow somehow is and it’s just Mythical instead.
I’d say probably the first if we truly have seen all the new Pokemon.
Marshadow doesn’t share anything with Solgaleo and Lunala apart from an adorable tiny form.
Don’t you think that the Sol/luna pre evos and marshadow’s tiny form are similar?
I’ll qoute myself “Marshadow doesn’t share anything with Solgaleo and Lunala apart from an adorable tiny form.”
However until we know Marshadows type we can’t say. If it isn’t Psychic then I’ll doubt it even more, Legendary trios that have a common type tend to have all 3 having that type. not just 2. If it is Psychic, and has a unique type like was leaked, it’s either Psychic/Poison or Psychic/Bug, and it doesn’t look like either of those to me.
To me it looks Dark/Fairy.
I wonder if Pokeride replaces the Bike. It obviously replaces HM’s, with the old HM moves becoming TM’s, but we haven’t seen the Bike yet.
gamexplain confirmed they do replace HM’s.
I know, but I was wondering about the Bikes
hm i hope not the bikes are a staple to the series but so was HM and u need to press Y to even activate ride .
Thank GOD!!!! lol
Imagine not being able to bike in a tropical region
I’d say it seems pointless due to riding, but, it did exist alongside skates so
The bike was better than the skates though, the skates were hard to keep in a straight line/didn’t go as fast.
Oh man I hated the skates, I wanted to use the that pad for walking but everytime you used it skates came up, I wish you could turn them off
Agreed.
I think the pokeride system will replace the bike since Tauros seems pretty fast, but a lot of the pokemon are quite bulky so I could be wrong.
Fun fact: if you have a pokemon encounter whilst riding a pokemon, the battle shows the trainer in their riding clothes. And the helmet looks like a Hawlucha.
Most people know that by this point but it is a fun fact
Yeah, but still, it’s a nice touch.
And I’ve been away from the computer all day, trying the demo and sorting coins 😛
I prefer the Pokeride clothes to the default character ones.
In the real game we’ll be able to choose our own though. I’m hoping the salon will unlock in a few days time.
Yeah I know, I hope we get to try that too.
I hope Komala gets an evolution. And, is the space blob turn into that thing with the gold around it?
Watch: the Oct. 27 reveal is just one pokemon: Komala’s evo. It’d be huge news, just revealing that one pokemon.
I’d literally die of laughing. That would actually be totally awesome if they did.
It’d prove there awareness too, and it’d make the leaks seem very intentional.
name of the video: Always watching
What about: YOU THOUGHT YOU OUTSMARTED US?!?!
Or THE HOUSE ALWAYS WINS
I’d love it.
its the day ill change my handsome profile pic
Space blob thing and black hole like thing enclosed in a golden ring thing seem interesting.
Yes, is it the evolution of space blob or is it maybe version specific? Like space blob is in moon and space ring is sun?
I think maybe space blob may represent the space “void”. Ear-like things coming out of it may just look like that because certain part of its animated model is taken. It can be someting like smoky animation, stardust coming out of its body like a smoke. And space ring may represent the stars, IDK. They seem interesting.
I do like it/them! I hope it’s the evolution of space blob. Cause, and I hope it’s Ghost/Dark!
OK, so how the hell do you find Alolan Dufuqtrio through Poké Finder? Has anyone done that yet??
I’ve brought the question up twice. It looks like you’re going to have to ask elsewhere. :/
Demonic Blood ritual.
Giant new leak!
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7ecc2cc20373982a7b18b4dd5d685349a9417e963ec33be528426c1898ced532.jpg
More like a flood.
we all drowned from this epicness
Has anyone confirmed Alolan Dugtrio’s type? It’s clearly still a ground type, but what type does it gain?
I’m going to guess normal or fairy.
Mullet type, like Alolan Professor Oak.
I could see it being just Ground still. It could just be an aesthetic change with the possibility of a stat boost.
Normal/Ground?
Wig/Ground
Seems like Fairy or Normal are the most popular bets. A good friend of mine told me that it’s hair reminded him of a steriotipical surfer’s hair style. Maybe Ground/Water to make things even more ridiculous? I would die of laughter if we have a surfing Dugtrio in our hands. I personally think it will be fairy though.
oh dont say fairy, earthen will literally start the apocalypse end it just to redo it
His base ground is different maybe not ground anymore maybe rock …or ground-fairy.
Ground/Grass. Potato sprout.
Don’t you think that there has to be more version exclusive mons for this games which are so extinct about the version you play? from the new mons leaked idk which ones could be exclusives as I cannot figure out counterparts. hmm. I tend to say: there are more to come
Spider bug and sea urchin could be exclusives maybe..
I think the sea urchin may be a crown of thorns.
My, how biblical.
Lol, its a type of starfish https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/447dc3c2e47fce096040dd6f389500c2e96390c7ee0d75f80a284f9283b8bbc8.jpg
Oh, thought it was a reference to the crown of thorns they made christ wear XD
Weird, but also kind of neat.
Definitely has one of the more bizarre names in the Animal kingdom.
Drampa and Tortunator
Ratata and Yungoos
Raticate and Gumshoos
Passimian and Oranguru
Lycanroc Midday and Lycanroc Midnight
Solgaleo and Lunala
Baby Solgaleo and Baby Lunala
Possible:
That new Sea Urchin and the PondSkater thing
Ledyba and Spinarak
Ledian and Ariados
Goodra line and Garchomp Line
Electabuzz Line and Magmar Line
Braviary Line and Mandibuzz Line
Misdrevous Line and Honchrow Line
None Pokemon
UB-02 Beauty and UB-02 Absorbtion
Theres probably more but that seems like enough
Whimsicott Liligant again
Yes I just skimmed over the pictures tbh till I found a reasonable amount
As long as I can naturally get Wimpod in Moon I will be happy. Lol
Wait a minute how the leaker know this pkmn actually Marshadow while the game was scrubbed from the name ??…or maybe just expectation.
Speculation. But of the remaining choices it is likely.
This might be actually spoilery, not just the leaks/the demo content.
Does anyone else think Kahili might be the Alola champion? The way they talk about her gives me those vibes.
Who’s Kahili? I missed that part
This one lady in the demo says that she’s off “conquering the world”, whatever that means, and says that she’s really good in battles.
She runs the golfing place, she was currently out but the person blocking the door spoke about her.
Nobody cares about spoilers anymore it seems 😛
This is an article about the leaks, nobody may care about that, but to be safe I put this, since this isn’t really a leak/demo spoiler, it may be an in game spoiler.
That doesn’t really make sense.
If people are reading an article leaking a ton of stuff that required the demo to be hacked, they’re not going to see something actually observable in the demo as a spoiler.
Yes, me too, that was my first thought. Very intriguing 🙂
OH MY GOD REMEMBER IN MYSTERY DUNGEON IN THE POT GAME WHEN DUGTRIO GOT LOST IN THE OCEAN AND YOU FOUND IT ON THE BEACH???
It all comes together
Nope.
oh well that happened
Did it have hair?
no but I’m sure it would’ve if it was out there for a bit longer
Theory: the hair is to disguise itself as Gumshoos/Yungoos to frighten others away.
This is probably exactly what GF is gonna write in their explaination
The only Alolan form I’m sad didn’t make the cut. Fairy/Fighting God of Destruction.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d0d31c2ec390e5bac7cbb9500f582c548e15943b577348d67344ddb2d901cf88.jpg
When my demo finally downloads (it hasn’t taken a few hours, I had to stop it because I had to go to class and my connection to my 3DS is my phone’s hotspot)
http://66.media.tumblr.com/376d766705105b410f314cbe2e536644/tumblr_inline_mupkmtsSUj1qd5qy6.png
I’m so salty this plot line wasn’t continued
I wanted my AZ backstory D:
I did love the AZ mention in ORAS though
I’m salty we might never get to use Eternal Flower Floette
Wow so Lillie definitely has a Pokemon. Its confirmed by Ash from GamexPlain, but he is not allowed to say what it is.
marshadow?
Could be. Its getting attacked by a swarm of Spearow at the start of the game and the PC rescues it
Either the other starter, Alolan Vulpix like the anime, or whatever is in her bag
I think the pre-evolution/ forms of the legendaries.
Anyone else exclusively riding Tauros as their main form of transportation? I refuse to walk when I can just bust through town on Tauros’s back lol
Yes. One of my favorite Gen 1 pokemon!
Normal/Steel Alolan form imo
Hm?
What I want lol
Lol I see. 😛
I probably won’t as soon as I can customise my outfit.
I was just reading some of the leaks and many of them are now very credible
It seems we will get alolan ekans, and dodrio line and maybe more pokemon
http://forums.bulbagarden.net/index.php?threads/rumours-fakes-leaks-discussion-thread.214874/
Which ones specifically have gained validity? I’m in a hurry, I don’t have time to look through them all.
Solgaleo and Lunala pre evo one for sure lol
It totally blew my mind. This is the first time legendaries actually have a pre-evolution
Should be cool to see how it’s implemented.
But since they’re still genderless, could it be its not really a pre-evolution but more like an ”unreleased” or ”incomplete” form like Zygarde 10% and 50%?
This is true. I suppose we won’t know until it’s revealed lol
Are we sure it isn’t just a form change?
I suppose it could be. Just seems right to jump to conclusions hahaha
I can’t read the rest of it. ._.
And the alolan ekans and dugtrio line
I cant see how there would be any more pokemon all of the sudden xD. I think the leaking is done..
OMG, WHAT IS THIS INFORMATION, I need to calm down. Finnaly I’m home and what is this, so much information? Now my mind is blown up.
Can someone post the Salandit evo, I really want to see but I can’t find, please help me.
http://i.imgur.com/VA9IrsN.jpg
What are those question marks?
Unincluded sprites. People think they’re totems, I don’t for various reason.
Komala isn’t there :c
Look harder 😉
Komala is under Oranguru, to the right of Comfey.
Now I see, Thanks 🙂
to the left of turtinator
Unrevealed Pokemon. Lots of people think they are the Totems though
Then why do raticate and Zygarde have them after? I’m not saying they’re totem, but they can’t be new pokemon because of that reason.
Between Raticate and Spearow, there is a question mark.
I personally don’t think its the Totems. Why would there be seperate dex entries for regular Pokemon with mere enhanced stats? Doesn’t make sense imo.
That doesn’t make sense, but it also doesn’t make sense to have one between Raticate and Spearow.
Or between Zygarde 50% and 100%.
Which makes me think there are at least 7 new Pokemon we haven’t seen yet
But, between Raticate and Spearow, who are next to each other in the pokedex. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a892e91ada552811055122417e9bc9555da70ab31ac4a81ed9c4ab78468a0c8c.jpg
seems like 2 much of a coincidence that raticate (who is a totem) + pretty much all the other new pokemon that are totems have a questionmark next to them
Zygarde too, but not after 100% , though this could be Core and Cell https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e2d501397f2a31a550fc577624512125663d6923ca56df0e8e03874e716e83fb.png
zygarde 1% & flat zygarde 1%?
Yeah thats probably Totem Raticate then
And if that is, then why can’t the others be?
Well those two ?? between Zygarde 10% and 100% do raise a question though? Totem 10% and 100%?
Maybe Totem 10% and Totem 50%. Don’t think they’re a trial, may possibly be a Boss Battle, maybe Post Game, or maybe as part of the main Story, say that’s the main legend in the story all along.
noooo zygarde flat 1% & zygarde 1%
I’m not completely sure, the person said something about totems, but I don’t know.
Those are obviously only the Melemele Island Pokemon
What?
We have three other islands
But maybe this is all :c 80 new Pokemon this is so lame.
And only 4 lines worth using. Even more lame.
And 8 aren’t even pokemon, they’re Ultra Beasts.
Maybe we can use it, I guess.
but but but.. we don’t want to right?
I want. They are Weird creatures, I like them. Give it time you will like it.
I see them (IF you can catch them) pretty much as legendary;s. I always box them
I hope they aren’t overpowered. I like some of them.
I don’t want to, I think they’re hideous. The only one I like is UB01
haha funny
Seems like a lot for one island, I don’t think they are just the melemele ones.
The alolans were in different images btw, the person ordered them by generation/relative number
i would love to have you make the next pokemon game
Pfffttt…..if you want at least 5 years, I will happily oblige.
Not because it’s going to be good, but because I’ll be procrastinating hard.
allright.. not making the next one, managing?
Seems like wishful thinking, but anythings possible.
So say Marshadow IS a Fairy type. That would mean that if all we’ve seen is all we get, then all Legendaries/Mythical but the Boxart Legends are Fairy, assuming the other 3 Island Guardians are, and that seems off
I think the other 3 Guardians are definitely at least part Fairy, it would fit the whole deity thing as well
Psychic/Fairy, Ghost/Fairy and Fire/Fairy
I’m sure Solgaleo and Lunala will get alternate Forms that are part Fairy.
The fairy revolution is in full swing.
Fairy is the new Dragon
That makes no sense. We hardly had any dragons at the time of their release.
Dratini line were the only ones actually
Legendary wise, for 3 gens in a row we got 3 Dragon Legends.
Then Zygarde.
I should have said the new Flying, theres lots of those Legendary.
Just stop there’s too many fairies
I love everything fairy but even I don’t think it will be fairy. I say ghost/normal is the only thing that makes sense to me
All we know is it’s a Unique type and is most likely Dark or Ghost with something. It’s just exactly how my idea for a Dark/Fairy looked in my head.
thats fair
OMG THE TEN CARAT HILL MUSIC
OMG I can’t get over how freaky Wimpods evo looks!!! I needed a water type and Wimpod might be my ticket now lol
Woot! 🙂
Is the Anchor pokemon the (2nd) worst design?
I actually don’t mind it.
It’s the worst imo
Well I mean it is the worst design actually but Pikidisappointment is the worst pokemon
Hahaha
What did you expect? A bigger woodpecker?
Yes. Lol
YES AND IT WOULD BE BIG AND MAJESTIC
<3
It’s cool
I wish it resembled a clock.
That was random, but I want a clock pokemon.
http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/fairytail/images/f/f2/Lucy_inside_Horologium.jpg
I actually like it lol. Probably not going to use it though
One of em. So weird. I foresee it maybe being part ghost type
First being?
Toucan?
I don’t mind it, granted it does look just like an actual look.
No it makes me angry no one is allowed to like it stop
At least be only half or malcontent 😉
Do you mean it looks like a real toucan cuz I agree? Where’s the gamefreak touch that takes normal animals and makes them pokemon?
Thats a mistake, I meant toucan.
The eyes are interesting.
Tbh though the regional birds have always looked like real animals.
I like the Toucan lol
I love the toucan just like most people, only not as the pikipek evo, just like most people xD
Still better then Pidgeot or Unfezant (and in my mind Staraptor, but for some reason a lot of people like Staraptor).
Pidgeot isn’t bad, it is… it is… ok it is bad, but Unfezant isn’t. Wait, well at least we have Talonflame, and it is good-looking.
I love both (mega) pidgeot & unfezant, don’t like staraptor
Fair enough, makes a change at least.
Unfezant is half an half, it was good for being sexually dimorphic but we have too many normal/flying pokemon.
Yhap, let’s see if this yeah the toucan pokemon is not normal/flying.
If it’s Ghost I’ll like it; if not I won’t. The typing can make it break that one for me.
Depending on how it looks in battle I might prefer it to Silvally/Type: Null.
Surely Binacle and Wigtrio are the first and second?
Oddly I’m ok with wigtrio, but I agree about the Binacle line. Hideous.
I still can’t get over how well designed these Pokemon are. Apart from just a FEW, this ‘dex embodies what it means for quality over quantity. STILL, I will hold onto my belief that this is not the full ‘dex.
Is there a comprehensive list of all the images and info we got from the data mining anywhere. I know the article has some stuff, but I’m looking for everything. Since it doesn’t seem like the demo had story stuff I think I won’t hold back from the leaks hahaha
These leaks aren’t satisfying
I’d rather see typing and stats
If they took out the bike though, that would mean you’d have to do pokeride to hatch eggs efficiently. Which might work out cause they seem faster.
Depends, might not count when charging.
That would suck
I hope we can ride Zebstrika. I imagine it being the fastest transportation to date.
I suppose this all means the starters really don’t have split forms for their finals……That’s a shame, but I do like what we got! Now I wonder what their secret really is!!
*does the gloat dance*
Seems unnecessary, but ok………lol
Sorry, I like being right about leaks being fake/true lol
Can we get a poll on the most hated type? I vote fairy
Don’t even get Earthen started hahaha
He’s going to make fake accounts just to ensure Fairy wins that poll
Yup hahaha
I saw his comment down and thought about how much I hate fairies as well
:<
Hey Fairy! How are you doing today? 🙂
Great, me and my friend were Playing Overwatch and I sucked but I feel my strategy is getting better
Who were you playing? 🙂
I was pretty much all the supports and, Tracer. Definitely getting the hang of Lúcio and Tracer which has got me happy
How have you been today?
I’ve been good! Spending my time off researching these leaks lol
I love the supports in overwatch. Whenever I play with my brother they’re usually my go to. Love me some Lucio and Mercy
Mercy is pretty much my main 😮
Sorry for the late reply BTW, was walking home from my friends.
Mercy is my main, too, usually!
Sorry I love dragon and can’t stand dendne being switched out on my x4 attack outrage garchomp
Then just Earthquake it :p
But it got my garchomp confused
That’s just what happens with immunities, you should’ve taken it out before hand.
This immunity doesn’t make sense though just like the normal type being immune to ghost, its wrong
Either does the Dark Immunity from Psychic. It’s for balancing reasons.
I vote Normal. Every Normal type could easily be something else or have it removed altogether.
It used to be grass for me, but yeah, fairy isn’t really being handled well in my opinion.
Traitor :<
:/
Fairies should be special, but they seem to tack Fairy onto everything just because it’s cute or pink :/
Or anything mythical in design.
I sort of agree with him though. I mean I love Fairies, but they are too powerful. They need a nerf and also a new weakness and remove their immunity to Bug. I vote Fire weakness
Probably Bug or Normal
Even though Fairy is my least favourite I wouldnt say I hate it.
Poison
I love poison and I feel it’s forever getting shafted.
I love dual Type Poisons, just not fond of Pure Poisons, Toxicroak is one of my favourite Pokemon
I have to agree with you there. Toxicroak is awesome. One of favourite 4th gen pokemon.
And Salandit looks like it has potential, its just, Pure Poisons are a bit lacking compared.
Isn’t Salandit Poison/Fire?
Yeah, hence why I said it has potential
I’d have to say Rock. It’s so meh
oh great another fairy hater… how about we not do a most hated types and do something more productive with our time mkay? -_-
Fairy. It’s not for what it is, but for the lack of clear definition of what it is. GF is handling the type very poorly IMO.
I agree. I loved the concept of fairy as the “light” occult to be a force of opposition to the Dark(ghost) Occult. But, fairies just seem to be either cute or pink. :/
I vote ground
I was ok with fairies until it turned into a “everything that’s pink is a fairy” thing.
Now the question on everyone’s mind is who is going to be the L’Oréal representative this coming winter!
My boy Wigtrio
Popplio3
I’m having a deja vue moment with the baby forms of Solgaleo and Lunala and I don’t know why…
Same.
This is TERRIBLE!!!!!! How could they take out the one feature that made the series complete?!?!?! I want to be able to SIT!!!!
1 Minute of Silence for the best feature ever…
Lol Uh huh.
I mean, your mom sits through the whole demo, why can’t you?!
Right? Maybe your character is butt deficient……
Have you seen how flat he is? Man, I thought I was flat, but his butt is literally concaves into his body…
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/be742d3a8b52edc90cdb8338857fb94cd4bb3ba9c3a8a0ab18118fd66f28a8c7.gif
I WAS HOPING THEY’D GO FURTHER AND INSTALL A TOILET, then I could also sit with an h after the s.
And that’ll be how we save!
LOL well sitting might be in the full game who knows
The main thing I was thinking during the demo… WHY IS THE PIKACHU NOT EVEN SHARP (PIXELS)
I also had this thought, it bugged me sooo hard
thanks god I wasn’t the only one, I honestly wanted to quit the demo right away
Best designs for me:
– Tsareena
– Lurantis
– Arrowal
– Sirene
– Beltigre (looks sooo much better in-game)
– Alien spider/bug/arachnid
– Alien isopod (Wimpod’s evolution)
– Marshadow
– Sea urchin monster and its evolution
– Jangmo-o line
– Oricorio
– Sandyghast line
– Vikavolt
– Lunala
– Solgaleo
Arrowal?
I wish people would just say Rowlet3 😛
Thanks xD
Ugh, iron tail is so unreliable. I hate it.
Ftr I correctly predicted the city’s name based on the German and Japanese names 😀
FINALLY 😀 I’m just glad I have time to play it before choir rehearsal <3
Play what?
The demo
It’s fun, you will enjoy it 🙂
It
Clearly 😉
It’s quite short tbh, but more events will unlock in 1,5 and 18 days (and I think a few more).
I really don’t care, at least I experience the game somewhat before next month :3
I’m not saying it’s a bad thing, it’s only mildly disappointing. If anything I’m definately looking forward to the main game after the demo, because if you put aside all the potential for the story and pokemon to be disappointing, the graphics, music and mechanics are good enough to make it a lovely game
I think there is still a chance for story potential, imo. And the Pokemon aren’t disappointing to me.
So it all adds up to be an amazing game that celebrates Pokemon, I feel. <3 🙂
1 day guy outside pokemon center
5 Days. Woman in bottom left corner of city
12 days Pikachu man in town hall
18 Days, Dock Police
24 days ship
Cant forget about shy ship lady lol
One of the trials is apparently catching a specific number of the same Pokemon.
#gymsbackplz
I think it’s just catching Pokemon in general…..I caught 6 and got a nugget. I was very confused as there was very little direction other than “Catch Pokemon!”
No a Nintendo rep told GamexPlain that this is one of the trials. They said it in their vid
Ooooooooh you mean in the real game hahaha thought meant that dumb trial in the demo lol
I got the nugget for 3.
Same, I caught 6. Was hoping to get to keep them, but nope ; n ;
Pokemon Go style? Ain’t that just wonderful.
Hey guys, I haven’t seen any spoilers and I don’t intend to see any. I just want to know how long the demo is, can anyone tell me, please?
Not too long, but apparently there are events that’ll unlock after a certain amount of days. So very similar to the ORAS demo.
Oh, I see! Thanks guys 🙂 Enjoy the leaks xD
Short, but we will have ne features in a few days.
Depends on you tbh
It presumably doesn’t follow any main game plot, so it’s unique. If you only do the basics you could probably complete it in ~15 minutes, but I took ~90 minutes because I explored every inch of the land and spoke to everyone.
Oh damn you can transfer Pokemon with HMs from XYORAS to S/M, but those moves will nog longer work in the overworld.
Nothing new there though tbh.
Is that from Gamexplain? I was gonna watch the video, but they were talking story stuff and that’s a no no.
The video I am watching isn’t about the story. But thanks for the heads up, I wont be watching other vids now 😛
What video is that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9Qpz6cDBvA
That one has a some early game story stuff tho…..At what point do they stop talking about what the player does and only talk about features?
7:45
Gotcha thanks!
They can still be used in battle, as seen by Wishiwashi using Surf.
Well yeah, that would make sense, seeing as it’s looking VERY likely that HMS in the overworld are no longer a thing. Thank god.
When every time the music changes in the demo, and you squeal like a fangirl that you are.
https://media.giphy.com/media/tiIjPUS6ecFWg/giphy-facebook_s.jpg
I have looked all up and down Ten Carat Hill, but I still have no idea where to find Dugtrio……so frustrating lol
I want to know where is it too.
Apparently you talk to a woman and she tells you to use the poke finder
Any idea which woman?
Its a woman on the beach, but the ones I spoke to didn’t let me use it
Hmmm…..ok……lol
Sorry for being vague but it’s apparently a woman on the beach. I haven’t tried it myself so I don’t know how reliable it is.
I get the impression it’s a rumour someone made up.
Then where did that screenshot come from? If it wasn’t in the demo then they’d only have it’s model like all the other leaks.
Maybe they photoshopped it’s model in?
I dunno.
Omg why would they bother……lol
Idk how to feel about morelulls evo…it’s kind of derpy.
Yeah, I’m disappointed. Morelull had such promise, but that thing is pretty bad.
It just doesn’t feel very special. It looks like it belongs in Mario if that makes sense.
I kind of see what you mean – the face is pretty bland.
http://shirtigo.co/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/turnupmario.gif
It my favourite one this gen :c and possible my fav ever soon
HI!!! IM TOAD!!!!!!!!!!!!
Worse than toad. Toad’s face is expressive, this thing looks like a caricature.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlqGQW5uY_o
I can’t get over this guy! So awesome! <3
(Does he remind any of you of a bug version of the Bone Vampire from Futurama?)
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1654d9ceac84a06c7474c82750b731aab2f262760fa9611855ae740d686e15ce.png
So cool. Bug types ftw
I LOVE it. Who knew Wimpod would become such a badass? xD
So there’s a woman that says she was saved by a strong man once and that they are meeting in 5 days. Any guess as to who this strong man is? I imagine we’ll meet the guy lol
Watch it be a Machamp. :p
Lol oh please
There seem to be a bunch of them around the city, so it wouldn’t surprise me.
That guy who pilots the boat in the trailer.
Or Hala maybe.
Could be Hala. I’d imagine we’ll get to meet him and Lillie in the next event lol
Ok so I wasn’t paying attention. What do you do after you talk to your mom in the demo? When she talks about moving and meowth?
I wish Pokémon would change things up and have the father be at home with the PC and play the mom up as some amazing trainer. One day… lol
I was always under the impression that (apart from in Hoenn) the father left home and the mother was single.
I would like a single father as the parent for a change though, or to actually have both present.
I always got the same vibe, too. It’s an odd tradition with Hoenn being the outlier of course.
Mew is totally under that truck btw. If you catch 100 pokemon you get strength and then you teach it to Greninja and you can find Mew. It’s true seriously
I thought the same thing when I saw that first truck lol
Is it squished with tire marks through the middle?
I’m not gonna lie, when I was reading that opening letter that gives you Greninja my mind went to “OH the players dad is ASH!!!!” Seeing as it starts with Sun (son lol) That’s the first thing that popped into m head hahaha
And Sun is from Kanto, that’s where they lived since Ash went on his journey.
Submitting some of my (crappy) ‘art’ again.
Fakemons ahoy.
http://img10.deviantart.net/ba69/i/2016/292/5/4/fakemon_concept_lineart__007___evil_fairy_by_pharap-dalk1jf.png
http://img11.deviantart.net/5b38/i/2016/292/e/d/fakemon_concept_lineart__006___dead_mushroom_by_pharap-dalk1ey.png
http://img12.deviantart.net/33b7/i/2016/292/3/8/fakemon_concept_lineart__005___mycellium_by_pharap-dalk15x.png
Love the dark fairy >:D
I liked it when I first drew it but afterwards got unsure. I also considered making it Poison/Fairy. It’s supposed to be purple with stripes of dark green or black.
I think it’s tragic that almost all fairies are pink and pretty, we need more mean fairies.
I like its theme. It’s like an imp or a pixie.
Yeah, half inspired by cornish pixies/fairies/fey folk, part inspired by Jynx from teen titans, part inspired by Maleficent.
No wonder I like the design so much, but also I was a goth in high school so it makes sense that I’m drawn to it. Lol
I like the second one best, could’ve been Morelull evolution.
Second mushroom or second picture?
Second Picture. Looks like it could be Evil Grass/Fairy instead of Ghost imo.
It helps when shading to not just scribble with your pencil. What I was taught is to use your finger to smudge what you want to shade, because it makes the color more uniform.
*continues scribbling*
Washing hands is effort.
Besides, it’s easy enough to digitise later.
I’m mad in the catching challenge you have to release all your new finds I had Pikipek, Yungoos, and Rockruff and I lost them all angry!!!!
That was half the point of it being a challenge and them not just giving you pokeballs from the start.
I went and got them back and found Wild Pikachu
I specifically searched for a Skill Link Pikipek too 🙁
I really wanted to evolve a Pikipek, but I couldn’t keep one alive long enough to level it up.
Right? Did it seem like the battles got harder when you entered that challenge?
Definitely.
IKR. I was so happy to get a Rockruff 🙁
Now I got a Pikachu as well but sadly it has red health Greninja and Rockruff fainted and Pikipek and Yungoos are in low Green health
Are there any more than those four in the challenge??
I haven’t heard of anyone catching anything other than those 4, no.
JUST FWI for you fairy haters out there…. only two fairy pokemon this gen are pink. Its a bad argument
Color scheme isnt the reason people hate them lol
its some peoples reason
Are you counting shiny Ribombee?
no, morelull, and its evo. although it may be three once we know squid tapu’s type
You’re adding to my arguement here. ._.
My issue is what they consider a fairy type. For example, if fairy was pink, why isn’t chansey fairy? If fairy was alien, why are solrock and lunatone fairy? If fairy was cute, why isn’t sentret fairy? If fairy was beautiful, why isn’t Milotic fairy?
—-
You get what I mean here? The loose inconsistent definition of a fairy type bugs me, hopefully it’ll be better defined in the future.
I mean if I take a step back I understand where you’re coming from but at the same time thats no reason to hate them. I don’t really understand hating a pokemon type or a pokemon. Even pokemon I’m not fond of I still love because they are pokemon, I just don’t get it.
The problem is that there are too many of them in this gen
No, there are not too many fairies. there is too little of everything else
You think it’s fair that we got 8+ fairy types, and 1 ice type? Even for a tropical region, this is abysmal.
yes I think its very fair we got 8 fairies, but its not fair we only got 1 ice type
when did we get an ice-type, i’m still waiting for one *cries
snow crab
so it’s dat the snowman pokemon everyone were goin’ on bout!, oh man i expected a ghost/ice scary-looking pokemon. But i still love it, heck i might even get crabrawler now xd
I’m holding out yet for more. I’m holding onto hope!
When they leaked the snow crab from the demo hacks.
Fairy types only make up 5% of the pokedex, they are the 2nd rarest type after ice, oh and most of dem are pokemon that were prior types. So it makes sense why the creators would feel need to create more fairies
In gen 1 we only had one dragon like but in gen 2 we didn’t get 10000000x fairies. The fairy type is corny I’m sorry, it’s ok if you like cute things but it’s just corny and while it did make dragons less strong it just created another problem
It didn’t make problems for the dragon type, it created an equilibrium in the pokemon world, which enabled every types to have fair advantages and disadvantages with each other, btw i don’t like fairy types because they are cute and feminine, but cause they are interesting types that consist the array of diversed pokemon
I didn’t say the problems were for the dragon types lol. Fairy is the new overpowered type. It needs another weakness.
yh u gotta a point there i give it to ya, and yh i understand why there are ppl who despise fairies
I love a lot of the fairies (sylveon, ninetales, popplio, that flower fairy one whose name I forgot etc), but to gamefreak fairy is basically an excuse to make small, cute pkm
Hhahah comfey, yh, dat true too mut like i realise in this gen there are feminine pokemon like Tsareena that ain’t fairy, it’s obvious gamefreak wants to draw more female viewers xd
I live for feminine pokemon, gardevoir, milotic, all of that. But those cute small ones who can kill a dragon just don’t work for me xd
3rd actually. Ghost is also rare than Fairy.
Here’s where you messed up: “that’s no reason to hate them”
This is my opinion, I can hate them for whatever reason I want, be it because there’s a loose definition, because they’re OP, or because we got way too many and only got one ice type, it’s still my opinion.
And I don’t really hate them, I just feel like they were handled very poorly this gen and the last.
Yeah. I want more scary fairies.
(And no, Mawile doesn’t count).
Id be down for that
Also you could make this argument about a lot of types considering there are tons of pokemon who’s type don’t really have much of a reason
name a few just so i can prove you wrong
Support, just when I need it (but seriously I had this)!
Where have you been? I’ve been waiting for you. Lol *Grabs popcorn*
i was at the gym
Watching Zootopia while on the Elliptical
Nice my gym doesn’t have any TVs :/
hell no, i bring my ipad mini
i wish i had a home gym, i hate working out in public
Same. People have annoying egos at the gym. Lol Plus the “moaners” freak me out.
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/thumb/9/9e/325Spoink.png/250px-325Spoink.png
the giant psychic pearl on its head, also pigs are actually quite intelligent
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/thumb/1/17/202Wobbuffet.png/375px-202Wobbuffet.png
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/thumb/4/44/249Lugia.png/375px-249Lugia.png
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/thumb/6/60/494Victini.png/375px-494Victini.png
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/thumb/3/36/527Woobat.png/375px-527Woobat.png
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/thumb/7/70/079Slowpoke.png/375px-079Slowpoke.png
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/thumb/2/24/103Exeggutor.png/375px-103Exeggutor.png
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/thumb/e/eb/337Lunatone.png/375px-337Lunatone.png
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/thumb/d/da/Bruxish.png/375px-Bruxish.png
*Cracks Knuckles*
Wobbuffet has ties with a late Japanese comedian Sanpei Hayashiya, and the teachings of karma that it only strikes back only after hit also the sheer mentality on how they mentally endure themselves to never strike back
Lugia is the guardian of sea, not the embodiment
Victini is just another psychic mythic Pokemon, it has a fiery mentality to fight and win
Woobat is all about courtship and happy emotions
Slowpoke’s brain though dopey is still very powerful
it’s been clearly stated that Exeggecute and Exeggutor have telepathy
Lunatone and Solrock are just meteorites that enrich with power when bathed in solar or lunar rays
and lastly Bruxish is based on Bruxism which is a mental quirk where you grind your teeth, it also states it uses the antenna in its head to emit psychic ewaves and it gnashes its teeth while doing so
Psychic isn’t really a visible type since the mind is internal. Also psychic types have more variance than faries. Pretty much all faries are pink or cutesy.
and yet little old you cant do the same for any of the fairies? hmm
the only Fairy that shouldn’t be is Azumarril the rest have ties to their typing
I could say the same about physic I guess (definitely not my favorite type) but what about the others?
Doesn’t really change the fact that there are pokemon who are fairy because they’re pink.
This is probably a dumb question, but has anyone actually tried changing the 3ds clock for the timed events.
That actually just resets the clock for daily events so you would have to wait 48 more hours for something new
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvDMABiWAAArxDc.jpg
I CANT GET OVER HOW CUTE THIS LITTLE SHADOW BABY IS
I WANT TO HUG IT AND NEVER LET GO. MY NEW BABY!!
ONE OF THE BEST POKEMON THIS GEN REALLY
Do you think it could be the new Mew, Celebi, etc.? I could see Zygarde completing the trio for Solgaleo and Lunala.
The only issue with Zygarde completing the trio is it’s Type tbh, it’s not Psychic.
Agreed. although its super effective against Solgaleo
Until it turns into a planet-eating demon.
What if he’s a black hole. o.o
iT WILL BE eating planets with a smile though1
Cutest…….Little…….Tiny……Baby…….Ever!!
I LOVE IT!
Marshadow is adorable, but I can’t help thinking that’s not its only/final form. It reminds me of Zygarde core, and of Solgaleo and Lunala’s prevos.
I’m gonna have to do some soul searching in regards to my team now……..so many great Pokemon and now I have to choose only 6? Sheesh……….On a side note anyone notice the weird loading to get in and out of the demo? Makes it seem off putting when going to play or stop playing….lol
Holding out for new pokemon. Say what you want, but right now I’m of the firm belief that this isn’t all.
Something about UB08 (7?) I thought was cool: It has a galaxy thing in its mouth. This leads me to believe maybe it faces off with the cover legendary, because, as protectors of their respective celestial bodies, they’d feel threatened by something that eats galaxies.
Your logic is good but I don’t like its design tbh, I’m sure I’ve seen similar in spectrobes or something. The UBs are starting to feel like the spectrobes summoned by geos.
I loved spectrobes.
And yeah, it reminded me alot of Krawl (the enemy race in spectrobes).
And so I wake in Alola,
And I walk in the grass,
And I call up a ‘mon to use Rock Smash,
And I can’t believe what I see and I yell,
WHO’S THAT POKEMON?
http://i.imgur.com/GcRoRMf.png
(i stole this https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/5867uz/with_the_reveal_of_a_certain_alolan_form_i/)
Fabulous secret powers.
http://i.imgur.com/NseHEq2.png?1
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What’s to hate about it…? It looks really nice.
1) Not Pikipek in anyway
2) Giant ugly beak
3)Disproportionately small wings
4)Weird eyes
Your problem mainly seems to be directed toward actual toucans.
And I am a little bummed it doesn’t resemble pikipek at all, but it looks very clean and cool.
Also I don’t think the eyes are always going to look like that. It’s an action pose, like with the starters.
1) we’ve had a dove/pidgeon turn into a pheasant before so this is no different.
2) why don’t you google a toucan sometime.
3) Disproportionate to its beak? Or? Idk it looks fine to me.
4) the eyes are the only thing besides the weird tail that makes it a pokemon instead of just an actual toucan.
Technically the collar is the only thing that makes Rockruff a Pokemon.
I actually really love it, the new Pokémon this gen are so cool!(except maybe stuffle and Alolan Persian)
Are you kidding?!
That thing’s beautiful, the second best regional bird we’ve had yet!
So what’s first?
Oh, staraptor
I’d rank it third
1) Staraptor
2) Talonflame
3) Toucan
4) Noctowl
5) Swellow
rest.
I’d switch 4) and 5) and add pidgeot between 2) and 3)
Pidgeot makes me want to barf. Its design is basic, its movepool is shit, its stats are shit, everything about it basically sucks. But I can respect you if you like it 🙂
I’m not offended, it’s not that great or anything, I’m really just not a fan of flying types por lo general.
I do like flying types, but they don’t seem to range much, you know? They’re all basically birds.
1. Staraptor
2. Toucan
3. Talonflame
rest
1) Staraptor
2) Talonflame
3) Pidgeot
4) Toucan
5) Swellow
6) Unfezant
7) Noctowl
1) Talonflame
2) Toucan
3) Noctowl
4) Swellow
6=) Pidgeot
6=) Staraptor
7) Unfezant
Did u know y do u like Toucan ?
It’s more colourful and interesting than the other birds, and it looks quite sleek/neat.
Agree but didn’t like it just cuz of that u know that woodpeckers are within the toucan family so u can understand the concept and the change.
Don’t hate on Toucan Sam.
I’m going to need more than a lifetime supply of fruit loops to forgive this
I never planned to use Pikipek anyway, so it’s not really wasted potential IMO. I love it.
Yeah, I’m so glad not to be chained to a regional bird for fly actually no way that I think about it.
Tony the Tiger, Toucan Sam, we’re getting all the cereal mascots in this gen aren’t we?
Ribombee is Buzz (the Cheerios bee).
Don’t forget the guardian of MeleMele: Tapu Kookoo for coco puffs!
Looks like a Toucan. I don’t like it likely being Normal/Flying AGAIN.
Y’all can live in your hate of fairies, I don’t care, but I’m sick of seeing it trashed everyday. This is why I don’t come here very much anymore.
Bye
It’s just opinions :S
I love fairies, my favorite type maybe tied with Ghost but I can understand how some don’t like them. Ok no I can’t but I respect that opinion
We have the same favorites!
Same
-_-
Nobody’s trashing fairies, we’re simply stating opinions in a non-offensive manner (well, at least from what I’ve seen.)
There will be people who don’t like something you do, don’t let things like this ruin something for you.
You should cool off a bit. Not everyone is going to like every type. People are going to have different opinions than you and it’s best to learn to just accept that. Fairy is also still the new guy on the block so opinions on it are going to range.
I’m good now, just get overwhelmed and feel alienated sometimes I have mental health issues. But I’m good now
Good to hear!
Good, I don’t like it when people leave
Hey, it’s okay! If you ever need to talk to someone I can lean a ear(or eye or two ;P). You shouldn’t ever have to feel alienated! 🙂
Lend* not lean lol
I don’t hate fairy types, but I think Pokémon like Gardevoir, Xarneas, and Togekiss embody what a fairy type should be. They should have some mystic power attached to them. But, sadly *most* fairies fall under two defining characteristics: cute or pink. I don’t think that should be enough to define a class. I think the Tapus are a step in the right direction. My only real criticism for fairies is they lack certain direction. Sorry if you felt we were personally attacking you. That wasn’t any of our intentions, I assure you. 🙂
No dude I’m good, sometimes on the internet I have trouble explaining myself and the like, no hard feelings I’m literally 100% now
Hug it out! 😀
Last time I checked, we’re allowed to have opinions.
I never said you weren’t
Currently looking for an adamant skill link Pikipek so I can actually have a shred of hope for evolution. -.-
Why are you even looking for one? I don’t think you can keep demo pkm. Or can you? hmm
You can’t, but I want to prove that it can be evolved. Someone may have already done it, but I want to see for myself. If I evolve it I may never leave that patch of grass.
You cant evolve the mons you cause cause you get no exp after you finish the main part of the demo
What does adamant skill link have to do with evolution?
It’s hard to keep them alive, so my only hope of getting EXP is via OHKO which is made more possible with adamant and skill link since it knows Fury Attack.
Oh. Good luck then!
I’ll need it. 😉
At least I’ll have Salandit2 to take care of fairies. I’ll have 2 on my team (popplio3 and ninetales) but they’re decent ones, not small mushrooms and all of that
I’m saving Ninetales for a third version or sequels or something. Considering Lycanrock or maybe Goodra as that’s in the dex. Although I want to use only Alola pokemon. Maybe Tsareena if its moveset is different enough from Lurantis
I’m using ninetales because I love the normal one + it’s part ice.
I’m trying to avoid having 3 faries but I may just use it anyways. IDK
Kinda hard this gen
I like Salandit 2 a lot, but for some reason it reminds of those “naked pokemon models ORAS” videos I saw on youtube a while back.
Oh no what
It’s not really naked. Look it up on youtube, I swear it’s tame.
Its more and glitchy than anything.
My Salandit 2 will cut and burn bitches
I’m the exact opposite actually. It looks so boring and uninspired to me…
My team is definitely at this point
Entermaid
Gumshoos
Mimikyu
Alolan Muk or Sandslash
Weavile or Lycanroc
Tsareena
Togedemaru or something else
Morelull could have been good, they ruined it.
Do we know Marshadow’s typing?
Most likely Ghost/Fairy
can we stop making everything a fairy
I want to see if it might even end up a Ghost/Normal type
But its cute and small so its a fairy
so is my anus
http://24.media.tumblr.com/8c1ce4ccf1def2eefdeef30c78781e4c/tumblr_mt8n03h0UN1rey868o1_500.gif
I’m gonna go with Dark/fairy.
That’s probably right actually since Lunaala is ghost type
I doubt that, it’s a “unique typing” and we have two ghost/fairy pokemon.
2? I thought it was just Mimikyu?
Tapu Poni
Oh .-.
Nope.
God type.
ultrabeast type
Ghost/Normal to me.
I’d love that
Dark and maybe Ghost or Fairy I think. Though it could be anything at this point.
I wish we had access to more than one potion. I could evolve Pikipek much faster if I had healing options.
Update: my Pikipek is halfway to its next level!
if it’s at level 30s wouldn’t it evolve in just one level up?
That’s the idea! I hope it’s not capped somehow because I’m putting too much time into this. I just want to get an evo name!!
It won’t evolve, at least not in one level. I saw someone try it, but maybe if you keep trying?
Good luck!!!!
Update 2: couldn’t run from the Pikachu. Starting over. 🙁
D:
Wait where did you go to level it?!
I highly doubt they’ll allow for evolution in the demo lol
It’s not going to happen, I tried earlier today and shared my results
I can come to terms with Litten turning into Tony the Tiger’s lucha libre cousin but only if it gets fire/dark typing. If it turns into another fire/fighting, It’ll be the first starter ever that I truly have no interest in using.
Luckily the other 2 look pretty darn good in their final stages.
Man it sucks that we hardly got any ice or dark type Pokemon, heck not dat many electric, steel or psychic type either dx
There’s too many normal type pokemon taking up all the space in my opinion dx
There may yet be more! 😀
Not getting my hopes up at all.
From hoping like hell that emboar was fake when the unova starters were leaked and hoping we had more XY Pokemon and more oras megas I hate to say it but I agree- this gen has many amazing things which we don’t have to hope for and we should be happy about those! But people are still allowed to moan if it makes them feel better
Hope so *cries
Hmmmm so here’s an intereting thing. Of the leaked Pokemon from the demo none of them were a snow man or dolphin. I wonder if we really do have more new Pokemon coming our way.
Snow man might have been the yeti crab evo for crabrawler. Dolphin may have been the purple koko that’s actually a swordfish thing.
These are both a stretch, but:
Snowman – crabrawler evo
Dolphin – tapu poni
—–
Yet, it seems odd, because a few credible leaks said Ice/Ghost, and Tapu Poni seems more like a swordfish to me. I do however believe we’ll get more.
I feel like those aren’t the ones talked bout. Like you said they seem more like a marlin and yeti crab doesn’t match what we’eve heard. I’d find it odd of the Chinese leaks got every other Pokemon it specifically talked about right and then those two were left out or misleading.
Plus the GamExplain stuff
So I figured something out. From what we have seen, Marshadows is #853. Volcanion is #728. That means there’s 125 difference there. Minus 8 Ultra Beasts, minus 16 Alola Forms, That equals 101. Then take out 73 (Gen 7 pokes plus complete Zygarde), that leaves you with 28. WHERE ARE THE 28 MISSING POKEMON? IN THE FINAL GAME!!!! PROBABLY POST GAME LIKE SINNOH. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a3e3faab3ec1f71fe56156b5113d093de4c925574ea94618d16e0cf13a67e8a7.gif
Where did you hear 853?
Look at the pic I posted right below my original post.
Wait, how do we know Marshadow is 853?
Hmm, where did you get this 853 from? Someone would’ve noticed this hours ago if it was true.
I could be wrong. Let’s hope I’m accurate.
Yep.
Unless Alolan Forms share numbers with their Kanto counterparts and have multiple dex entries.
Just one big problem. Volcanion is #721.
How’s that a problem?
The big problem is the source of information.
Here. One of the dudes that was leaking the mons last night had it on his twitter. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e9ce248279084e7c8594fd602e3a93c6cc34915fe5b4510db80f5302d5fc01b5.png
I could’ve sworn that they said there was no dex numbers, but hmm.
Wait I’m confused. If the egg avatar person asked a question, then how do they know an answer for the courtney avatar person’s question.
Wut.
New person here. I think you are referring to the zip file that has all the pics in it. But it doesn’t have all the Pokemon and also counts the shinies.
Ok so if the mystery things are totem pokemon, why are those separate but not those Lunaala and Sogalao forms from CoroCoro?
http://pm1.narvii.com/6162/186ca92dfd6212f14724ae22dd9a81c570104cab_hq.jpg
I think this is just move animation.
These are pokedex stills, you know the 4 animations we see in the JP trailer for every new pokemon. Therefore, totems should not have pokedex stills, the difference is an orange aura.
What if this is their zmove.
They have a Zmove, solgaleo gets yellow when he uses it
Something I just discovered, don’t know if it was already pointed out. You can assign the pokemon from the poke ride to the direction buttons. For example if i push the left button tauros appears. It’s like you can assign HM
Does it just run up out of nowhere?
Yeap.
Pokeball light explodes around you and you’re on it in full ride gear, like it does anyway.
Yo guys I need your help! My 3ds can’t connect to my university’s wifi. I could create a hotspot with my phone but I don’t want to use that much data. Is there some way I can use my laptop to send out some kind of wifi signal I can use with my 3ds?
Do you have a McD’s or something nearby with free Wifi? Might be easier. Idk much about these things tbh, sorry I can’t help :/
Does any one here hate litten3 IMO it looks like guzma when he crouches and i think it will be fire/dark
I love Litten but I wish Litten3 could drown in the ocean.
I think it looks better in game than the concept art and like I said it just resembles guzma imo
Are u going to pick litten and fully evolve it or pick a different starter or everstone torracat
Gonna get Popplio
I love Litten3 XD
Does it look like guzma to u because of his pose that litten3 has and guzma to
Uhhh, hmm. I’m not sure I see that comparison
Guzma has his legs crouched in battle and litten3 has them slightly crouched
I like it. Prefer Rowlet3 though. I hope for Fire/Dark.
I think it will be fire dark because it’s meant to be a heel wrestler. Litten3 probably for sun and one of the other two for moon
If I get both I’ll use it too.
We’ve been hating it for months.
I think it looks cool probably because I like most fire starters and wrestling
More likely the latter.
‘Some’ have, I somewhat like it, not what I’d have wanted a Tiger Pokémon to be (one of my favourite animals) but not that bad.
Monkeyfuzz do u think it resembles guzmas pose in a way
Kinda, but I wouldn’t think he’d have one. Unless other major characters have the other 2 outside of what Hau gets.
I know he wouldn’t have one but I mean litten3 Sprite pose looks like guzmas in battle
Maybe it’s universal bad guy pose in Alola?
I detest it. The design is ugly enough as is, without the fact it ruined one of the best Fire starters ever.
Doesn’t mean everyone has to. Can we agree Rowlet3 is the best one?
There are a lot of people who do though.
Rowlet3 isn’t what I hoped for but it’s definately the best of the three. That seems to be almost unanimous too (http://pokejungle.net/forums/index.php?/topic/162-what-are-your-feelings-about-the-starters-leaked-final-forms-potential-spoilers/ )
A lot =/= the right to say “We’ve” as if everyone is unanimously in agreement. I admit I’m being somewhat picky here though.
What did you hope for Rowlet3?
I said “we” as in “we who dislike it”.
I didn’t say “everyone”.
Not sure, there are a few fan-made designs I like, but tbh it’s mostly the hood and the feather fingers I don’t like and I’m not too happy about the face seemingly changing species.
It’s a Pokémon, I can forgive the face change, as it isn’t that drastic compared to say, Octillery. Feather fingers are weird, I agree, I guess they thought that was the only way they could make it an archer?
I like all them but if I had to put them in order favourite to least favourite 1.Litten3 2.Rowlet3 3.Popplio3
1. Rowlet, 2.Litten, 3.Popplio for me. I don’t hate any of them, I’ll save that emotion for Alolan Fugtrio and Persian.
I actually started to really like it, simply because the starters this time around seem to be bursting with personnality =D though I’m still going with Rowlet
I’d like it if it didn’t look like every fire starter apart from delphox and if it wasn’t quadrupedal. It’s so cruel… last THREE gens they’ve started out on all 4s and then progressed to bipedal. It’s like they’re doing it on purpose…
Even though it’s actually connected to her top, it’s kinda funny how from the back it looks like Plumeria is wearing a thong.
Haha I also noticed that! Totally not E for everyone lol
What if marshadow is what is underneath a Mimikyu?
It’s not
HE has to have a full form. Just like the puñalada and sol have the baby form.
Well Komala doesnt evolve so
Yeah. But marshadows is part of the whole mascot team. They all normally fit the same theme (birds, beasts, weather, etc )
YES IT DOES, LET ME HAVE MY DREAMS
No it totally does evolve, it just hasn’t been leaked yet.
Didn’t notice him before, but there’s a guy next to the Pokemon Center that says he’ll give us something tomorrow and only tomorrow.
This pokedex isn’t complete, Komala can’t be a stand-alone pokemon :c he deserves to evolve.
Neither does Minior, Pyukumuku, and some other pokemon that I’m forgetting.
Plus the credible leaks, some stuff is missing.
Plus the gamexplain stuff.
Plus something else I’m forgetting.
Wow I’m really forgetful right now.
Woo, new avatar. Don’t know if I’ll keep it or not, it seems kinda blurry.
Looks good to me!
It doesn’t look as blurry and pixelly as I expected it to, great!
Yeah it looks cool, I like it 🙂
Thanks!
I’m leaving for a bit, see ya!
There are not anymore Pokemon. Sorry it just isn’t happening. I know it’s disappointing, but just get over it and learn to like these guys. The Chinese leaks could have been mistranslated. Snowman could have easily been referring to a yeti as in a yeti crab as in Crabrawler’s evo. And that Tapu is a dolphin. There are other types of Dolphin than just bottlenose ones. A Rugby monkey isn’t exactly what Passimian is either, but you don’t have people screaming out that that leak hasn’t come to fruition. Based on Hakomo-o’s pokedex number that was extracted with his base stats there is exactly the right number of Pokemon between Kommo-o and Volcanion that have been extracted. we have them all. It’s a done deal. There will likely be more in the third game/sinnoh remakes.
What were hakkamos base stats
Just found this on 4chan. Idk if it’s true or not. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c5c521f1b875a317fe6e37319c8b204d6390006cf74b719a9a819a48a1c57f83.png
Spoiler tags plus a mention of what the potential spoiler may contain would be nice, such as “Potential story spoiler”.
this is a bunch of sloppy crock
but i will give him a single credit that Marshadow’s unique typing is NO typing that would be unique
Lies.
If Wimpod’s evo is named Champod it’ll be the one pokemon I’ll never nickname.
Someone else already predicted ‘Champod’ so it’s probably fake.
That doesn’t mean it’s fake. Just what they thought it could be called.
It’s still possible. Unlikely, but possible.
It implies it’s fake because someone else is reusing something already suggested in a fake leak.
I predict most of these….but not UB 6 and UB7 I thought they Dark-steel and Ground -ghost respectively.
Are we going to be able to transfer the pokemon we catch in the demo? And also does anybody know if it’s shiny locked?
You don’t catch any.
But I can catch some by carat hill a guy gave me pokeballs. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/64ff25b127fe0c04dcb5527d4c586506addc601311d1f9833c0e4a3bdb0dfac7.jpg
Once you try to leave he force says you to release the
You don’t keep them.
You can’t keep the ones you catch. You release them as soon as you leave the area.
Aww?
Ewww torracat ….
Gasp! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e92eb92a859288444d5083ea75cc863d08304b37666140265d65fec2afcdede1.gif
I can’t forgive it for what it becomes. Torracat itself is good, still not as good as litten though
Torracat is ok, its evolved form is hideous.
You can watch Marshadow upside down and it still does look like a pokemon 🙂
Mahalo trail has some decent music lol
Ten carat hill’s music is gorgeous.
Am I the only one who has ZERO problems with all of the things that have been introduced into Sun/Moon? I swear, people are so picky about these games. I’m just glad GF is trying something new, and while some of their decisions may not have been the best I can still respect the effort that they have put into these games.
This has me 100% hyped. Anything else at this point is just icing on the delicious cake that is Sun and Moon! Plus, I think trials will be pretty fun!
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1654d9ceac84a06c7474c82750b731aab2f262760fa9611855ae740d686e15ce.png
You probably are the only one.
As for new things, some of us were happy with the old stuff.
Alolan Fugtrio = 0.32% effort
I was expecting Alolan diglett and Dugtrio to be above the surface if they were given an Alola form. I was very wrong. Lol
That would have been cool
Would at least have made them a bit better, even if they kept the hair.
Mhm..
Tbh I don’t mind it too much. That’s probably because I wasn’t expecting it to magically become Ice type or anything like a lot of people have been.
I think it’s frivolous like alolan Exeggcutor and makes an otherwise boring Pokemon a bit less boring.
I didn’t want it going Ice type too, I just think it’s lazy, completely ridiculous(seriously how will they explain it?) and still boring.
They’ve given up on explaining things as of Raichu.
And my money is still on it pretending to be Yungoos to scare off other pokemon.
God forbid we each have our own opinions.
I never said you couldn’t? I just stated the obvious that some people are picky. I can understand the viewpoints of most people’s problems with the games, but some people flat out just complain about every single thing.
If we just all sat here and agreed on everything the world would be a pretty boring place.
I never said everyone had to agree? As I said, I can see the points people make about certain things (Litten being bipedal, Alolan Formes, etc.) and why it upsets them. I personally, just haven’t been adversely affected by any of the things revealed/added.
“People are so picky” sounds like an attack IMO.
I don’t see how, but okay.
I think most people are happy overall,but there are some things which they could have easily resolved. I think it’s okay if people express dissapoinment though, some points are quite valid ( another bipedal fire starter, small Dex etc.)
You don’t have a problem with the fact that two types were completely neglected other than reskinned Gen 1 Pokemon.
I dunno. There’s plenty to not to be too fond of, but I guess there’s also plenty to keep most people happy.
I will agree my favorite type (Dark) got shafted this gen. :/
I think that’s actually my biggest pet peeve. No balance to the Pokemon types.
I didn’t even get any Steel Types bar 2 legends and Pika Clone.
And an alolan.
Whoop de doo
GF were hoping everyone would embrace the alolan Pokemon as if they were new Pokemon.
And that’s what’s really getting to me. People will always quickly point out the Alolans as soon as I let my grievance be known.
I mean, at least a Pokémon I like(Muk) became a Dark type so it’s not too horrible.
But still pretty bad. :/
It was a decent idea that was wasted. Even if it was limited to Kanto, there were plenty of options to reinvent and give relevancy to Pokemon but instead we got re-colouring of Pokemon.
Tbh if they weren’t just recolourings with a bit of difference they might as well be new pokemon entirely.
I wouldn’t have minded a more vibrant colored Abra line who became a Dark type and the spoons changed to knives. Lol! But, perhaps that’s a bit too dark for kids. XD
That’s what I’ve come to realise. Instead of 18 lazy designs of old Pokemon, we could have received brand new Pokemon of their typings. Then we wouldn’t be upset about the lack of new Pokemon and in particular the absence of dark and ice types.
I feel like I need to give up on ice ever getting fair treatment.
I have a problem with Alolan Dugtrio. Besides that I’m happy with everything they’ve included, even though I’m still processing these designs.
Anyone else like the Alola Geodude line?
i want to know typing and just more about it in general, but designs look cool
The general consensus is electric/rock so far.
I like the magnetite/ lodestone inspiration, as for design, that’s another story.
anybody else trying to get somebody to evolve in the demo? i figure 30’s is high enough level for atleast one of them to evolve by level up…3/4 of the way up a level on pikipek
It won’t work, there’s a cap.
Apparently hakkamos base stats were revealed ? What are they? I reallly want to know as I can’t see how they’ll make this guy strong offensively and defensively
Somewhere in here: https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/581sas/updated_info_on_data_mining/?st=iug1umy7&sh=08b441fb#spoiler
I just realized something that 100% convinces me we don’t have all the pokemon: we don’t have the strange souvenir pokemon/the pokemon on the tikis on Mahalo trail. Sure, they were never really confirmed to be pokemon, but if they’re everywhere then there has to be some significance to them.
So apparently Jangmo-o dex number was found to be 782. If you put all the pokemon within it and Volcanion the number fits perfectly:
722 Rowlet
723 Dartrix
724 Rowlet3
725 Litten
726 Torracat
727 TonyTiger
728 Popplio
729 Brionne
730 Poppulosity
731 Pikipek
732 Piki2
733 Piki3
734 Yungoos
735 Gumshoos
736 Grubbin
737 Charjabug
738 Vikavolt
739 Crabrawler
740 YetiCrab
741 Oricorio
742 Cutiefly
743 Ribombee
744 Rockruff
745 Lycanroc
746 Wishiwashi
747 Sea Urchin
748 Urchin2
749 Mudbray
750 Mudsdale
751 BubbleSpider
752 BubbleSpider2
753 Fomantis
754 Lurantis
755 Morelull
756 Moremorelull
757 Salandit
758 Slutandit
759 Stufful
760 Bewear
761 Bounsweet
762 Steenee
763 Tsareena
764 Comfey
765 Oranguru
766 Passimian
767 Wimpod
768 MegaWimpod
769 Sandygast
770 Palossand
771 Pyukumuku
772 Type:Null
773 Silvally
774 Minior
775 Komala
776 Turtonator
777 Togedemaru
778 Mimikyu
779 Bruxish
780 Drampa
781 Stangeanchorthing
782 Jangmo-o
783 Hakamo-o
784 Kommo-o
785 Tapu Koko
786 Tapu 2
787 Tapu 3
788 Tapu 4
789 Baby Solgaleo
790 Baby Lunala
791 Solgaleo
792 Lunala
793 UB-01
794 UB-02
795 UB-02
796 Ultra4
797 Ultra5
798 Ultra6
799 Ultra7
800 Ultra8
801 Magearna
802 Marshadow
Yay, at least we barely broke 800!
theres still hiddens one tho
There are?
i think so, i think 7?
What do you mean by that though? Why aren’t they in the demo?
http://i.imgur.com/VA9IrsN.jpg
People say totems, I don’t believe they are however.
i can’t either why would mimikyu have two next to it while the rest has 1
People say it’s because it has the pikachu form and then disguise lowered form. But there’s just too much evidence for this to be the full dex IMO.
A lot of those positions look like evolutions or pre-evolutions, but that one after Kommo-o could be some super-powerful pseudo.
Then explain Raticate and Zygarde https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e2d501397f2a31a550fc577624512125663d6923ca56df0e8e03874e716e83fb.png https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a892e91ada552811055122417e9bc9555da70ab31ac4a81ed9c4ab78468a0c8c.jpg
If you refer to the question marks, those are quite surely totem pokemon models, as there’s one between Raticate and Spearow and we know there’s no one between them in the pokedex
But still there are two behind Mimikyu and none behind Wishiwashi?
Mimikyu has 2 models.
Cause Mimikyu has two normal models, one with the head on and one with the head down when it activates its ability. Porbably wishiwashi school form is already considered as a totem pokemon, calling allys to create it
Then why isn’t the Gumshoos we’ve seen considered a totem? Literally all a “totem” is is orange aura.
I meant that Wishiwashi school form is actually a wishiwashi calling allys to create it which is what a totem pokemon does. Gumshoos is a normal pokemon, it does not call allys to create a new form so it gets the orange light
But Wishiwashi School Form is a completely new sprite, while Gumshoos only gets the orange aura? It doesn’t add up and we’ll see soon enough.
Plus there’s only 6 here and we know of at least 7 trial captains.
I’m glad someone gets me. I believe we have two scenarios:
1) They are new Pokémon;
2) The data miners fooled us.
Scenario 1 is most likely. We have more than 1 datamined I think, and that’d be hard to pull off.
could u go on discord?
in like few minutes
Sure.
How would you explain the question mark between Raticate and Spearow where we know for sure there’s nothing?Those are for totems, sorry
I can’t. And you can’t explain the Wishiwashi. We’ll just see.
Actually I could. None of the other Totem have forms. Wishiwashi has a form where It call other wishiwashi to help and actually create a totem form. Wishiwashi school form is already more powerful than normal wishiwashi like all totem are stronger then their normal form
No god that’s stretching it too much. Ulgh I can’t with you anymore, sorry.
Also consider that people who played the game said that not all trials involve fighting pokemon, so the water starters could be just to discover that wishiwashi is in the sea and has a school form.
water trial, sorry
And before anyone accuses me of miscounting, Mimikyu’s 2 are just 1.
Lurantis, Gumshoos/Raticate/ Salandit2, Jangmo-o3, Mimikyu, Vikavolt, Wishiwashi school form
I would assume all totems get the orange light, that makes zero sense if they don’t.
so why wouldnt wishiwashi have a question mark if it has two forms?
and fun fact Mimikyu, down form is actually in the files as its shiny so why would it not be for its regular https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b242719b47b4e0c4a7c50c98e09339c3d660556fc309c90ed9e0f2732929f4ce.png
The wishiwashi thing is a good point.
You know what? I just thought of something. Mimikyu is obviously a Totem, but what had me confused was why it had two ? next to it. It just hit me! The second one would be for the drooping version of it’s model lol
we saw the the drooping verison in files already though so it’s not the gap 😛
Source of the number?
A member of Serebii staff on forum.
I mean where did they get it? From what I’ve heard dataminers say that dex numbers are scrubbed.
Can’t say I’m surprised. Many of the leaks and rumors we got were saying that there were more, but by much in terms of Pokemon when compared to XY. Seems about right to me.
How do you hide text with the grey box thing?
Text here no spaces
oh ok lol
The entire Pokedex with sprites and stuff is there. Is this a known fact here?
Kind of spoilers. I didn’t say any info.
Pretty much.
No, I had no idea!
Sorry for the sarcasm, I just had to. Yep, we all know, sadly enough.
Rip; Adrenaline pumping trailers
Well, we still have new features (and NEW POKEMON!)
I don’t know if I want to use either Alola Persian or Dugtrio, or both.
I can’t believe there’s someone who likes one, let alone both!
Hakamo-o: 55/75/90/65/70/65
Pikipeck: 35/75/30/30/30/65
Rockruff: 45/65/40/30/40/60
Yungoose: 48/70/30/30/30/45
Rockruff has some pretty poor stats.
probably gonna be a glass cannon
I’m just happy we have fast rock type
It didn’t look that strong but dam I want it on my team.
I heard they nerfed Def and SP-def state to make the demo easier.
I haven’t heard that. But they could have done.
I’d like to point out that these stats likely don’t reflect EXACTLY how they will be in game. The Pokemon are obviously made to be easier to beat as it’s a demo. Seems like there are some stat tampering to make things fit for the demo.
Could be a possibility, but I very much doubt it.
Look at Hakamo-o for example. It’s stats Total is 420 which is similar to the 410-420 range that all the other Pseudo middle stages have. It’s stats will unlikely be higher in the real game.
Hmmm I suppose so….lol
That attack for Pikipek is insanely high for a basic Pokemon.
Look at that beautiful defence stat on hakkamo. #CHALLENGE TYPE CONVENTIONS
Fighting types have decent defense and hp though
Spoilers for Dex Leak
Even though I’m convinced they’re (the blanks) totems, humoring the idea that they’re completely new, unseen Pokémon, what do you guys hope they’d be?
Tbh I’d want
-1 Komala Evolution
-1 Pyukumuku Evolution
-3 Ice/Dark Pokémon in a line
-2 Rock/Psychic Tiki Pokémon
All of that + Ribombee evolution and maybe one more Salandit
Completely forgot Ribombee, turn that third one into a two stager :p
Ribombee and Salandit need one. We have such a small amount of 3-staged Pokemon. :C
Ground/Fighting….but i know that its not new unseen pokemon
Would you use Alolan Dugtrio if it was?
there’s no chance in all 9 layers of hell
What are you saying? You love ground types!! lol
i do but A: all alolan ground types have had their ground type scrapped
alolan Dugtrio is a joke
c; i hate you
You missed “B” there, but that’s ok. I honestly don’t think Dugtrio will lose it’s ground typing. It’s to…..well ground-y to. Know what I mean? lol Also I love you
I had a feeling you might be like that. I don’t much care for it either.
One day!
YEAH FUCKING YEARS FROM NOW
Maybe there will be an awesome sinnoh form of Excadrill making it Ground/Fighting or something!
You freaking dolt, if nothing comes up within the next 4 weeks I’M TOTALLY SCREWED
Then i’ll have to wait 4-5 years until gen 8 and what happens if even that gen doesn’t have one, it’s not even a outrageous type, but i still haven’t gotten one
Why are you so closed off to a well designed Fighting/Ground alolan form?
There’s no way that they’re totems IMO.
But, in the spirit of guessing:
1 Komala evo
1 minior evo
1 pyukumuku evo
2 ice/ground beast
1 Salandit evo
I should have stopped looking at news earlier. Whatever.
Attempted to evolve a Pikipek and then Pikachu ruined things ; n ;
Doesn’t work
🙁
I feel like during that challenge the battle got a lot harder…..
I don’t think the battles were harder, it’s just that you need a lot of them.
That’s true and without having the ability to heal it becomes way more of a pain lol
I’m keeping my super potion in reserve 😀
I used mine and it didn’t help lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3Jw4Iv8nmo
Regardless of the data mining, what’s frustrated me is how they released so many new Pokemon through the trailers. It honestly didn’t leave many Pokemon to be discovered when playing the actual game. It also gave me hope for a pokedex that at least broke triple digits.
Simple theory: Ultra Beasts are humans fusioned with Marshadow.
Woah, I really like that. But it isn’t happened at all.
Plot twist: everything that happens in the story is all because of Marshadow and the final boss is Marshadow in its true form. I mean, it does have “shadow” in its name, possibly hinting at its play as an essential character puppeteering everything from behind the shadows and Solgaleo and Lunala take the form of the baby Pokemon to try and alert the humans of Marshadow and its minions of Ultra Beasts… Okay, I’m getting too fan-ficky! 😀
Why are we assuming that Solgababy and Lunababy are independant pokemon? Legendaries have never evolved before, so why would they now?
We’ve always had Gyms, why would we lose them now?
Fair. But still, my reaction is form change, but somehow most of the internet sees them as prevos.
Good point, could be a form change, like Wishiwashi.
I feel like I need to put out a PSA with the amount of times I see people attempting it 😡
You can’t evolve any of the Pokémon in the Demo, if you could one of the many people who’ve already tried would’ve said so.
I’m having flashbacks to ORAS when there weren’t any more megas
There won’t be new megas.
I’m saying that we were all hoping for new megas from the demo leaks but there werent any. They revealed them all.
I wasn’t, I was expecting them to give up on megas.
Ok but most people did
Star’s referring to how ORAS revealed all Megas before the demo was datamined and people were pissed
It’s comparable to the reaction to the reveal of the SuMo Dex. Not because of no Megas, but because of the low number and lack of certain Pokémon.
Also, I find it fairly obvious they’ll probably go back to Megas in remakes, you’re technically shoving in new content you can get away with.
And XY when we were dissapointed in the dex numbers. I was hoping sun and moon would be an exclusion to those dissapointments, and I’m glad to see that it will be.
I don’t think this is meant to be a definitive list of ALL of the remaining dex,just what some have been able to uncover so far in the coding. For starters, there are surely more unrevealed alolan forms than that, and none of those unrevealed pokemon are the snowman and dolphin ones we know exist thanks to the chinese leak. Komala is 100% getting an evolution, there’s just no way it wouldn’t.
Hope hurts sometimes. 😉
It’s not even hope though, we know for a fact a dolphin and snowman pokemon exist, and this doesn’t mention those. So that confirms it’s not a complete listing.
And the ? can’t be totems
And the gamexplain stuff
And the strange souvenir/mahalo trail statues
Just let me hold onto this ;_;
Snowman and Yeti are the same word in Chinese
Crabrawler’s Evolution, a literal yeti crab
Dolphins are very roughly similar to marlins and swordfish, especially when used vaguely.
Tapu Poni
Is that the tapus real name ?
Nah, it’s Tapu + What we believe it’s island is called (its Hawaiian for purple)
I thought that was a clam hahaaha…
I guess I can see how Crabrawler’s evo would have been called a snowman by a chinese person, but calling Tapu Poni a dolphin is a major major stretch. Still think there’s a few missing (the dolphin line, evo for komala, maybe an evo for pyukumuku, a legendary or two).
Ten Carat hill music is so good, I want to try battling some trainers but I can’t get myself to let the music stop. o.o
I’m legitimately curious now if Alolan Dugtrio can get the Furfrou treatment.
More Pokemon should be customizable.
The only good thing would be Punk hairdos.
That, and Jheri curls.
Mullets would also be acceptably funny.
My question is:
What new pokemon is the mysterious artifact from X and Y based off of. None of them look like the artifact.
Also, what is the secret now with rockruff and the starters that only they share?
These leaks lead me to believe there is more.
Yep.
I’m downloading the demo now. I was 15 years old the last time a new Pokemon game came out…that’s a long time ago in teenage years. I’m excited to readjust to the Pokemon life!
You’re only 17? Wow. For some reason I expected you to be older
Because of Xatu’s wisdom…
The third eye! ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
Lunala has a third eye…. Reason I love it so much ( Third eye is also one of the best songs ever…)
Thank you, but I think that’s just because of the way I type 😛
I was 13. Ugh I hate my old self so much, I prefer not to think about it.
Ya’ll tiny little babies lol
Wait until you’re in your twenties, you’ll dislike your current self even more probably.
eeeyup
What fun. -____-
As you get older you get better at life in general. And at art
http://silverriolu295.deviantart.com/
look at some of this garbage
Can anyone link me to a pic of morelull’s evo? I can’t help myself.
Don’t set your hopes too high
I love it :/
Even while I am dark type specialist still love it.
That’s good! Some people were just disappointed is all.
https://i.sli.mg/6lhmMp.png
Looks like Satan
That a good point though.
I actually love it! So cute!
The bloody creep is wearing a stupid diaper
disgusting
THIS HAPPENS BUT NOT A KOMALA EVO
It’s kind of a Pokémon tradition to include a two-stage Grass Mushroom In the odd Generations :p
One that spans back to Gen 1 and has outlived Gyms XD
http://i.imgur.com/y9l5V8U.png
I warn you, it’s disappointing.
“I warn you, I find it dissapointing”
FTFY 😛
My opinion is law.
same fam
Litten3 looks so much better in-game! Honestly it looks, in my opinion, better than even Popplio3 and Rowlet3. Never thought I would say that.
Hey everyone,
I found out how Dugtrio got his luscious locks!
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/aa5c23b70d542a96acab86834f98a00b5deeab5c2e2f1fa1133998d078113d32.jpg
I still can’t take Dugtrio seriously. WTF is that thing?!
Let’s recycle our old Ampharos jokes from 3 years ago! Yay!
Does anyone else think the leveling up seems to take a bit more? Idk if it’s just because grinding against first stage Pokemon isn’t all that great or if the experience gain is tweaked in the new games.
It definitely runs off of BW’s experience system, so it has changed from X/Y.
And experience may just be nerfed to avoid leveling in the demo since its frankly useless
Do any of you guys get those Home menu selections which advertise demos (like for Disney Art Academy, Yokai Watch 2 and Lost Reavers)? How do I get rid of those?
Yeah I typically choose to delete them
Alolan persian is awful ; n ;
The head…
lol
Idk I think it looks funny lol
It’s one of the pokemon I desparately didn’t want to be funny. I was hoping after seeing how Meowth looked cool that Persian would look cool, but it looks awful ; n ;
i think it’s supposed to look chubby due to it’s pampering. I wouldn’t be surprised if that were the reason anyway lol
It looks like its real world counterpart. Chubby, flat face, everything.
So I think I love the fact that you can use Poke ride anywhere. The fact that ytou can just ride around on Tauros in the middle of the city is great hahaha
Can we talk about these two Pokemon though? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/803a29326e1eb3377ebebcf52b212f8ed6be6594def942692d86a137c0d7a8a4.png https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/16c4dbe31babc823e4174df0b9900477f1b455cd71748c02b56942b36254f22d.png
they are awesome
If they’re both Bug-Types, they’ll go amongst the best designed Bug-type Pokemon.
#IDidn’tChooseTheBugLife #TheBugLifeChoseMe
either a gem or a plankton
but that Wimpod evo i just love it, or am i just attracted to those long, sharp sexy claws
https://memecrunch.com/meme/OA4D/big-meaty-claws/image.jpg?w=400&c=1
It’s a diving bell spider :p
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5e899fcf550d1fb944f7a8c7936c0329b58c3dfbd0786dea461273a6677c8cf8.jpg
can’t argue with that
Ah, I thought I recognised the design. I’ve seen those things before.
First is meh
Second is surprisingly good. Not a fan of its legs, but the upper part is golden
I would like it a lot more if it was just the head and those appendages connected to it.
I think it will be Bug- Psychic …..I wanna use it but no space left.
Same
Listen……..I honestly think they could pass as creatures that aren’t Pokemon. They’re definitely a step away from the cute and cuddly we’re sued to. That said……DAT WIMPOD EVO IS BALLER!!!
The former yes, the latter feels like a pokemon still. It looks like what a bug type would look if pseudos were bugs instead of dragons.
It reminds me of Haxorus and Garchomp.
Yeah I guess so. Either way they’re both definitely a bit more…..dare I say edgy? lol
I want to know the first ones typing..I think it’s a combo of two of these four: water, dark, electric, bug…
I’ve read it’s Poison/Water, but I’m not sure if that’s real.
Hm, I’m wondering how someone would know
I’m thinking electric/water.
I thought the same.
Even though it’s not my fav, I’m hoping bug/dark or dark/electric. I feel like water is most likely one of its typings though.
It’s on my “accepted as existing but I probably won’t use it” list.
I might, depending on the type. If it’s electric I might drop Vikavolt (despite having a superior design) so that I can use wimpod.
They are awesome and I want them both on my team with a lot of other Pokémon. But that is why I am gettig both games.
Depending on it’s type I’ll probably use the 2nd one.
I’m expcting it will retain its water/bug typing, or maybe become dark/bug or fighting/bug with some luck. But mainly water bug because it wouldn’t make sense if it lost its type.
Bug/Water
I hope it retains Water/Bug.
hope the bottom pokemon is still bug/water
both those pokemon probably be version exclusive -_-
idk why but the bottom one reminds me of a Lurker from Skyrim. Or maybe something related to the creatures in the works of HP Lovecraft. Very alien looking, but Im slowly growing to love it. Ill name mine Cthulhu
nahh it’s a Mirelurk http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/0/06/Mirelurk.png/revision/latest?cb=20150418180927
That looks a lot like it, but I have never played fallout, just watched others play it
One word
Perfect
First we denied gen 5th starters evolutions, but they were real.
Then we denied the existence of fairy type, but it happened to be true.
Then we denied 6th gen starters, but they were real.
Then we denied that gen 6 has only 70 pokemon, but those were the only ones.
Then we denied that all mega evolutions were revealed by GF before OraS release, but there were no new ones.
Then we hoped for third game with gen 6.5, cause Kalos was incomplete, but it never
happened.
Then we denied Gen 7 starters, but they happened to be true.
Now we are denying that gen 7th has only 70 new pokemon.
The history of pokemon fans is all made by denials. If you wanna know how is gonna end the last denial I suggest you to look at the past.
We denied this too
https://archive-media.nyafuu.org/vp/image/1463/97/1463972219281.jpg
And thank god we did.
It surprisingly had alot of fan art
But those were not datamined 🙂
WeI’m not denying that the leaked stuff is real, I’m denying how everyone thinks this is complete.The hackers found out Jangmo-o dex number and if you put them together with jangmo-o being the pesudo, they all fit perfectly. Trust me, I’ve been playng pokemon since 1998, I really would like a bigger dex but I’ve learned what to expect and what to simply accept as evidence
I’ve also been playing since 98 and I don’t think it is complete.
same
The thing is that there’s no rational here, you know. You have to accept the idea that we pretend other pokemon just because we think some need an evolution, while at GF they do what they want. So hey, how are you sure there are other pokemon apart from feeling there are? Cause evidence in this moment points in an onther way
Where did they get the dex number? I heard the dex numbers were scrubbed.
I didn’t mind them that much tbh
I hate u.
Um
Well that escalated quickly
Fair enough.
And the Litten3 evolution was awesome! Just so epic!
That rowlet is way too humanoid for a pokemon, even by pokemon standards
Those are awful tho……..
That’s y I hate humanz.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfYRLmSIgEs
I wanna tell u something………. I like that.
Undertale and GameGrumps are both really great. Putting them together is only greater!
and there’s another reason I like Skeletons.
Cuz they so spooky!!
JUST LET ME HAVE THIS! ;__;
Just ignore the pain and focus on the positives! No gen is going to be perfect.
I am not in the denial phase any more 🙂
sooooo can we expect anything else to leak? :3
Yes completely 100% confirmed fact
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At least IMO
If there is any other Pokémon, they’re not going to get mined. They would be already
if there are more they are likely not present in the demo much like the story elements and such
Yeah, they did a good job on everything else. My brother thinks it was intentional that these things got leaked, that’d be cool if it was the case.
serebii was skeptical too about it I saw
I dont know if this was posted buy http://is.4chan.org/vp/1476821341519.png
RF added a bit more info
Question is does she have the opposite one to the box legend. Like will we be able to get both in a single game? lol
Idkkkkkk and also put a spoiler between ur text its a big detail
Whoopsie daisy sorry………. lol
Or maybe its Marshadow….
Yeah, I can see baby Solgaleo and Lunala getting the Bonnie/Punicham threatment
That one black obsidian-looking UB with the sharp edges is one of the coolest sprites of all in my opinion.
If we get to capture it i’m nicknaming that hoe Starscream
I like the one with the laser canon unattached arm things.
Ewww no it looks like brooms. Some how uglier than barbaracle line. Takes the crown of ugliest Pokemon thing for me.
Wait so is marshadow the fluff ball or the thing after magearna which looks like phantump?
ISNT IT JUST PRECIOUS
WHICH IS IT ?
The Phantump
So what’s the fluff ball
ADORABLE SHADOW BABY MARSHADOW
OH wait no lunaala thing
The purple thing? It’s somehow related to Lunala
I thought that was the orb with the gold rings around it
That’s related to Solgaleo
But there are 2? One red one purple
The shiny version maybe?
Thank you! Baby lunala looks very different to baby Solgaleo
Shinnies
Very different to the horrors the name suggests
I’m just so excited for this game. The amount of hype and potential is just incredible. I just started playing the demo after downloading it at work and it’s just everything. To me it feels like playing the original Ruby and Sapphire all over again when I was younger.
Reminds me more of Sinnoh than hoenn :/ tropical, but Pokemon designs feel Sinnohy
And the fact we have separate day/night themes :p
Oh I agree on that aesthetically it’s more similar to sinnoh but it just matches the level of excitement I had when Hoenn came out.
Ah I see! I love Sinnoh but hoenn my least favourite Gen with kalos so I was worried
Gotcha gotcha! 🙂
So, in the end, what was the “all high and mighty amazing secret” shared by the starters and rockruff? Nothing but buzz i’m assuming…
Mistranslated apparently?
Mistranslation and nobody bothered to check the translation for months?? xD
there are translating issues
Yeah that is odd.
Probably something mundane.
People assumed they were shared when it was literally just saying they all had secrets
As for the starters, I’m guessing Z-Moves
Probably so. It’s a pity though.
No Synchro then ? Was hoping delphox and chesknaught at least would get something. Oh the favouritism.
Right? Anything would’ve been better than being completely ignored.
Still going with it being a lost in translation kind of thing. That happens almost every gen with at least one piece of CoroCoro info.
Yeah, this must be the case.
So I’m a mild arachnophobe IRL (if it’s bigger than a penny I’ll freak out and fight or flight) but is it weird I love spider Pokémon? Like Joltik, Spinarak and Diving Bell Guy are adorable and I think Ariados, Galvantula and Diving Ball Guy Sr. are badass
is okay. I hate animals that are related toxins that can kill you (specially scorpions), and poison is one my fav types
http://discount-supervillain.tumblr.com/post/151995727587/rlqiuckthing
The fact that there seem to be less than 100 Pokemon this generation, along with the fact that Gen 7 seems connected to Gen 6 in many ways, makes me think that next generation will be another series reboot. Just like how Gen 5 had about the same number of Pokemon as Gen 1 and only featured those new Pokemon for the main story. I’d consider both Gen 6 and Gen 7 to be one big “3DS Generation”, with Gen 8 on NX (maybe) starting with a clean slate.
Depends what you mean by ‘clean slate’ and ‘reboot’.
RETURN TO KALOS
Please no.
PLEASE YES
Kalos was meh.
I’d rather return to Hoenn, Johto or Sinnoh.
I’d love to return to Kalos. It needs a second chance.
That’s what remakes are for :p
The Kalos Region is listed as a location so….
That’s for Ash Greninja, since Ash met it in Kalos
If we were exploring the whole of Kalos, it’d have individual place names.
That might be due to Ash-Greninja, so don’t get your hopes up.
And the other regions aren’t?
Yass
Well, someone brought up the fact that Marshadow is number 853 or 835 in the Dex, leaving over 100 spaces for only 70ish revealed Pokemon. Could there be more?
There’s no real evidence behind that. However, I definitely feel like there is more we’re missing.
I had the idea that maybe everything that was dumped is set to be featured in the upcoming news dump(s), but they wouldn’t reveal shinies and so many of the Legends at once. Besides, that’d only leave a quarter of the Pokemon left to discover for ourselves in the final games.
With any luck. But honestly there’s so much loose evidence at this point that I seriously think there’s more.
Hopefully. There’s been a lot of tradition breaking, but no fossil Pokemon and so many standalones leave me wondering.
Plus the stuff gamexplain said
and the lack of a strange souvenir/mahalo trail statue pokemon
and the “?” literally can’t be totems
What did GameXplain say, exactly?
I hope that’s true. If it is, then there is no doubt we get more.
It almost makes me wonder if GF wanted people to datamine the game for marketing purposes….
My brother thinks that’s the case. It does seem odd that they missed one thing though.
I know. and think about it. We didn’t REALLY find out that much. Several evolutions and tapu guardians. We already knew about marshadow (not sprite but that it existed) and started evolutions, and slandits evolution.
If we didn’t really find out that much it makes me really suspicious.
That’d be amazing. If that’s true, I bet they’ll let us come to terms with it until the 27th, when they reveal Komala’s evo. xD
To be honest I’m hoping that the beginning of Gen 8 is a completely blank slate with features retained (moves, the eighteen types, the eighteen default Z-Moves, etc) but Pokémon from past Gens return in either a third version/sequel and or remakes.
Depends how good the pokemon are.
And bringing old ones back later on would half defeat the point of getting rid of them for a generation
So no NX reveal today .-.
Didn’t think there would be.
Still could happen tomorrow. This week remains highly suspect.
I hope they reveal some crazy pokemon stuff with it like a version of SuMo on it or something like that
So did a few weeks ago. And a few weeks before that. And before that…
My money is on it either not revealing until late november or not revealing until early next year.
They clearly have no idea what they’re doing sadly.
That’s what they all said last time…….I’m so sick of waiting……
I bet the NX is a one sick psychological experiment.
Pikipek learns Rock Smash apparently.
It should wood smash.
I guess they thought it was close enough :/
Yes it does.
I mean I just fought one with it.
Hence “yes it does”
I thought you interpreted my ‘apparently’ as if I had only heard it somewhere 😛
Makes sense as it’s evo has such a big beak
I wouldn’t mind it becoming Flying/ Fighting, I know it won’t though.
If it becomes flying/normal I will be upset but thanks to its design I’ll be more ok with it than with other regional birds.
Holding out for flying/dark though.
Look at its menacing, malicious gaze! That is the gaze of an evil-type e-e
Also Pikipek is noted to Thief things at times.
I just find it ironic that out of Pikipek, Yungoos and Rockruff people were expecting Pikipek to be Dark the least :p
Flying/Dark would be the dream. Even Pure Flying would at least be new outside Tornadus.
Give Alolan Persian Rock Smash too, its head is FAT enough to smash rocks, lol
Should learn Head Smash.
I’m not sure if these were posted, but these are spoilers for moves and such:
Psychic Terrain: which negates priority moves for Pokemon on the ground and boosts Psychic-type attacks
Throat Chop: sound-based moves negated for two turns
Aurora Veil: halves the power of physical and special moves for 5 turns
Laser Focus: 100% of critical hit on the next turn after the move’s use
Aurora veil is combined light screen reflect?
Basically.
Is this confirmed?
I’m not sure, but the person who leaked this is the same person who leaked the Poke’dex, so it’s highly credible.
What are our fossil pokemon? Wimpod’s line and that weird sea urchin thing line?
no fossil this gen apparently
Just wait…
i am waiting 😐 there’s a lack of rock types this gen
Minior imo is like the coolest rock type ever
Wimpod and its evo look like a fossil pokemon, but it is weird they wouldn’t be rock.
Again, I’m still not convinced this is all of them. No fossils apparently, no evo for Komala or Ribombee, no dolphin…just seems like there’s still stuff missing.
The Ten Carat Hill music is making me happy inside 🙂
I’ve been standing on ten carat hill for like an hour now for the music. It sounds like it’s telling me “the release is so close! Hang in there!”
Salandit kinda remind of purple dragon gang from ninja turtle and ….some one remind of Shredder though…. I mean these http://application.denofgeek.com/pics/film/tmnt/tmnt5c.jpg remind me of these could be spoiler though. http://i.4cdn.org/vp/1476815957812.jpg
http://boards.4chan.org/vp/
Toughpod looks like Shredder
Any one else notice a bunch of time sensitive events in the demo?
Ok Salandit has grown on my but I still think it needs something on its head or another evolution
So I caught Pokémon using all twenty Poké Balls in the capture challenge and your reward is…
The guy falling asleep and not giving you anything
;-;
What!? XD
I was hoping he’d give me a comet shard seeing as it’s an item in the demo’s code
It took a long time and dedication ;-;
Plus I need all the sellable items to pay for what I’m going to waste on the salon and clothing store in that first major city, unless its festival coin only.
Wait are you serious….?
Yup.
I got a nugget…
He’ll give you that if you get over three the first time :/
Well I thank you for your sacrifice now we don’t have to waste our time lol?
If we do return to Kalos, hopefully the 30 spaces remaining for the Poke’dex are new Pokemon or evolutions for Kalos-Pokemon… 😀 xD
PS: I’m still in the denial phase.
Heliolisk evo!
electric/dragon!!!
😀 You know it!
All I need from Sun and Moon is a robust Safari Zone with hundreds of Pokemon from all generations. I’d spend many hours there.
Someone brought up the fact that there are about 20 Pokemon that cannot be seen in Diamond and Pearl until you get the National Pokedex. This could very well be the case here! Maybe?
National Dex, fixed.
I mean, I doubt it. Don’t forget we have all those standalone pokemon and they are there.
wait really? what ones were those?
Most of the ones that were new evolutions for previously existing Pokemon
If that’s an explanation as to why the demo might be missing pokemon, it’s less convincing than the ‘demo only coveres a few islands’ theory.
Just a thought, no real justification behind it.
Is it just me or do these trails seem incredibly tedious.
I’m seriously hoping the actual games are much better.
I’m basing this on what I’ve seen and read as I haven’t actually played the demo yet, probably not going to to be honest.
Trials feel very natural, which goes with alolas theme. The issue is they a feel a bit like side quests, in my opinion.
From the videos I’ve seen and from reading what people are posting on here, it just seems really tedious and basically spoonfed to you. I mean the photographing one literally tell you where to look.
This is a demo though. If people play the demo and can’t beat it, they won’t want to buy the game.
Why not? The demo is supposed to give us an idea of what to expect in the game. I’d be more put of if I didn’t think it was challenging enough.
I’m hoping that the photographing trials make some Pokemon hard to find. Also throw in other random Pokemon to throw you off. Make it so you have to lure some Pokemon to the right spot. Or even make it so you have to position yourself properly, or have the Pokemon run off if you take too long.
I’m going to miss the gyms puzzles. Candice’s ice one is still my favourite 😀
I would like some trials to be puzzle based so you have to solve something in order to proceed. They can still put ice sliding puzzles in to navigate the snowy area.
I just hope we can battle trial captains, whether that be a post game thing or what.
Is anyone else dissapointed with pikipek evo? I mean it’s so underwhelming unlike that little bird…
I hate it so much. probably my least favorite pokemon ever
U will end like u ended with Salandit evo …..remember that.
Salandit is at least a queen who slays. Toucan Sam can get out
It will be funny character I am sure of it.
I’m happy with it, still better than most regional birds.
It’s shiny looks awesome though! The only problem I have is that it looks like an actual Toucan.
I agree, it’s very toucan like.
I’m still laughing that it turned into a Toucan. I don’t mind the Toucan design, but fr a woodpecker? XD
I didn’t have high hopes for pikipek either way…l
I was thinking of a Steel/Flying or Fighting/Steel with bandage-like appendages hanging loosely from its vicious feet able to kick and pummel opponents. Basically think of Crane from Kung-Fu Panda but more badass.
Crane from Kung Fu Panda is a rare kind of Japanese Crane.
I know. I was just taking inspiration from cranes. Plus, woodpeckers are very territorial and aggressive towards other males who enter their territory and will fight just as aggressively. 😀
Oh, and I see what you mean.
Nope, it’s one of my favorite regional birds.
I love the design. it’s just an awkward transformation.
Not at all …@Pharap:disqus just tell him cuz I feel lazy.
I know that woodpeckers are within the toucan family. It just looks nothing like pikipek. they could have at least made it look smoother….
I think it has a nice sleek/neat design.
Its second stage is a bit awkward but the transition does make sense when comparing all 3 forms and not just the first and last.
Besides, most regional birds are bland, at least the toucan is nice and colourful.
I love toucans, so not at all.
It could have been a separate Pokemon. Pikipeks design had more potential. And it’s yet another normal flying type regional bird. They could have ad t steel or grass or something…
its amazing
Most unexpected evolutionary line this Generation, I think.
That’s fair. Personally I think Crabrawler is weirder though.
What was GF planing to give us in the next month? could they want to reveal everything before 18 November?…..I mean just few pkmn left to reveal.
thats why i think there is more then what we see.
There’s too much evidence at this point IMO for this to be all.
im 50/50 so i dont get disappointed
another suspicious piece of evidence: Game freak really hasn’t taken down any of the pictures yet. I mean, I haven’t seen one website down or video blocked about these leaks.
There’s no point, they’re out there now and it’s only images.
well, I would at least try to get stuff off. But I mean, they’ve kept quiet and I think that’s a little strange…. Or maybe they’re firing people IDK XD
does anyone else hear this like weird almost record scratch like pokemon cry in the background of the demo, it happens every so often while I’m in the city part and its so weird
It matches up with the cries of Pokémon you can find in those areas, so it’s most likely wild Pokémon cries.
Didn’t figure it out til I heard Pikipek’s, I thought my demo was bugged at first.
ohh ok thank you
Oh god I have the PSATs tomorrow and I’ve spent my whole afternoon doing this and playing the demo.
Eh, whatever.
YOOOO SAME HERE
Hopefully it’s not too easy, because I’m not studying at all. But then again my school told me it wasn’t nessicary to study.
Oct 27th Trailer name
“YOU THOUGHT U DATA MINED WE PLANNED THIS HAHAHAH!”
Watch it reveal all of this. xD
63 exp until levelling up a Pikipek.
Why?
Because I want to see how they subvert it evolving.
Lame, nothing happened ; n ;
I’m pretty sure me and some them guy tried out out in the morning :p
Wasn’t here this morning.
I think the reason why it was reported as Marshadow being 835 is because it counted each one of Type: Null’s forms as individual Pokemon, as well as every other Pokemon’s shiny.
Or 854, whatever that number may have been.
Why didn’t they do that wish Arceus then?
I think this is an extremely Captain Obvious statement, but Silvally happens to have the same shiny colors as a certain deity.
Speaking of captains, that guy in the demo video is definitely a kahuna.
@Dicie Gamexplain said they encountered a few (more than 1) new pokemon in the first two hours that we don’t know about yet, and none of the leaked pokemon seem to be early game.
He’s not referring to Pokemon that haven’t been officially announced?
He is, but none of the leaked pokemon look early game. Plus he said more than 1.
Plot twist
The new Pokémon was Alolan Diglet
A few is more than one. 😛
Alolan Dugtrio
I expected that lol.
You dug yourself into a hole there :p
I’d scream
I’d be interested to see if they respond if we ask if any of the datamined Pokemon were found. If not, we can definitely get hype.
I could try to get there attention?
That would be great.
Time to learn twitter lol. Should I ask: Did you see any pokemon in the game that aren’t on this image? *show image*
I’d ask if they’re avoiding them first, it’d suck to ruin their experience of the game
Yeah.
*their
TBF though they may be avoiding the datamine themselves or still can’t talk about them.
It’s worth a shot. Also they of all people wouldn’t be the ones to avoid spoilers, that’s sort of their job.
You’re right. The majority of what we got is first evos and such.
RAY OF HOPE
I must convince everyone here! xD
My thoughts exactly! He didnt even get to the first trial apparently
What if the anime is set several years before the events of the games and Ash is the Alolan champion? 😀
“You did an amazing job, son/daughter! I’m proud of you!” – ???
*Player looks behind him to see an older man with a Pikachu situated atop his shoulder, smiling*
“Now it’s time for your biggest trial: defeating me!” – Ash Ketchum
“Pika! Pika!” – Pikachu
All along, your goal had been to defeat the very father who left on a journey wanting to become a Pokemon Master and to be better than him: to reach the goal he never could.
Ehh I’d prefer to keep him out the games as much as possible, the demo even avoids name dropping him
Don’t kill me: I’m just throwing out baseless ideas.
Nah, it’s a good enough idea, but it’s one people wouldn’t be fond of :p
Replace Ash with Red or Gold and I’m all in
Fine: Red since he’s my bae. <3
Not that overhyped trainer again. He’s so lacklustre. I mean every protagonist after him has achieved the same thing he did. What makes him special, I will never know.
Nostalgia and Poikachew
since Ash cant win a pokemon league and there wont be none in new series, he will fail school and be stuck in alola region forever
I’m betting the champion is Kahili
I agree with this. and maybe he/she are off on that golf course in akala island?
Wait, what’s this character’s association with golf? I just thought they owned the clothing store
There’s a Kahili Golf Course in Hawaii.
I love that shiny Sandygast and Palossand are black…Black sand beaches!
Was thinking the same thing! Hopefully they have one in the Alola region (can’t remember off the top of my head).
I love shiny Ribombee. For some reason Ribombee reminds me of fall, and it’s shiny colors do so even more.
Hopefully this region’s champion is proactive like Alder and Cynthia instead of letting a 10 – 16 year old save an entire region as they sit on their throne watching this all occur.
The only champions to do nothing in the games were Lance and Diantha.
Diantha who?
Oops, never mind! 😀 xD Forgot she existed!
She was badass in the anime Team Flare Arc so she exists now
Lance did in GS though
To be fair, he did help out with Mahogany hideout.
Scratch that, it’s just Diantha.
Can you imagine if the Champion is Ash. Like all grown up or whatever. Being that he does give you the freno have and a pikachu.
@Demonslayerx8 on Twitter claims there are 9 Pokemon yet to be seen.
:O that’s the account that leaked all the sprites.
*tries not to freak out.
WELL SPILL IT ALREADY DEMONGUY!
How is his twitter even still alive
That’s what makes me suspicious.. I’m still wondering if GF WANTS us to see all of this….
I think they do.
any kind of publicity is good publicity
Maybe there are 140+ and we’ve only stumbled upon half!
Nah…
Would be the best strategy IMO, let the hackers think they’ve won then reveal there’s a ton of pokemon that got left out.
It’s an amazing marketing strategy and look how much hype was built around these leaks….. Also let’s point out that the leakers are VERY confident everything was out except for those few missed sprites…
Yeah, remember when the leaks came for XY nintendo found them so fast it wasn’t funny
Yup a lot of twitter accounts shut down, websites taken down, etc…
well if I’m not mistaken thats the reason we lost our article the other day? and yet if they looked at any of the comments in that article they would know exactly where to look for the leaks.. heck its not even that hard to find on twitter
Yup they removed the article in case the site gets shut down….
I wonder why those in particular were scrubbed.
Still keeping my hopes down but
-Pyukumuku evo
-Komala evo
-Mimikyu evo or final Pyukumuku/Komala evo
-Alolan Ponyta
-Alolan Rapidash
-Ice Line Part 1
-Ice Line Part 2
-Alolan Something
-Alolan Something
Just give me Komala and Minior evos please. . . .
Please no more Alolan. After Dugtrio and Muk…
Alolan Muk is awesome
Meant Grimer. I love Muk and actually want it on my team, but I only do NEW Pokemon on my first run-through.
Please….just please…Ground/Fighting type
Seriously, how does Komala not have an evolution?
hopefully we still have a chance….
My hopes … Yes, I know they are awfully high & specific, but one can dream right? I’d gladly just take a dolphin Pokemon and 3 new Alolan stages
– Dolphin Pokemon ???
(Water/Psychic)
– Snowman Pokemon ??? (Ice/Ghost)
– New Dark-type line (2 or 3 stager)
– Komala evo (Normal)
– Alolan Butterfree (Bug/Psychic)
– Alolan Lapras (Water/Fairy)
– Alolan Growlith/Arcanine (Water)
– Alolan Ponyta/Rapidash (Electric)
– Alolan Koffing/Weezing (Fire)
– Alolan Jigglypuff/Wigglytuff (Water/Flying)
– Alolan Mr. Mime (Dark/Fairy)
– Alolan Jynx (Psychic/Grass)
He/she said that because of the blank spaces cause no one has seen them, even he/she. But that blank space between Raticate and Spearow really points to Totem models only. While if they are really new pokemon this would mean other 8 standalone pokemon and maybe a mimikyu evolutions, which is really unlikely
In 12 days you can help an old man celebrate his pikachu’s Birthday in the demo, how adorable is that
The old man: “It’s our 1 year anniversary and I’m still 79!”
4, 11, 17, 23, day events I have found, though the date has rolled over for me.
0 – Some guy gives you 10 pretty wings
4 – A girl waiting for a strong guy who helped her.
11 – ???
17 – Police officer sting.
23 – Escort a girl on a ship.
11 is Pikachu Birthday.
Any idea where he is?
The guy is outside the pokecentre
The girls is in the bottom left near the town hall
The police officer is in the marina
And the boat girl is in the boathouse in the marina.
The building where you start, Pikachu is stood next to him.
City hall all the way to the left.
Somehow Ithsme is already taken on twitter. Huh, I really thought it was an obscure name.
So far I’ve never had a problem owning the name Pharap. If there’s a Pharap out there, there’s a 95% chance it’s me. Except Twitter and Facebook ofc
I only need a twitter for asking GX some questions. Do you know what the best account to go to would be?
Nope, I don’t use Twitter XD
How to know if a Pokemon game or anime will be good:
– If the games are lackluster, the anime will be amazing –> Ex. X/Y
– If the games are amazing, the anime will be atrocious –> Ex. B/W
– Outliers –> D/P/P and R/S/E
I guess we’re in for a good game then!
Too soon, my friend, too soon.
Well just look at it.
Don’t judge a book by its cover. 😀
Or in this case an anime.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvEoMHWUIAA2ghg.jpg
And the black images are scrubbed?
I don’t want to raise my hopes :/
Where’s Komala? I swear I’m blind or something
Nvm
It’s 789 and 790.
We should have more than 6 totem pkmn ….something unmatched here.
Team Skull is already the best “evil” team ever
Ok, for the people who want me to ask the question to GameXplain, what would be the best account to go to?
Use the name SharkeishaAteMyBaby
No I mean whose account on Gamexplain should I ask?
oh ummm, I’m not sure O_O
I feel like now is a good time to post this again. This building is covered in representations of Water types, yet I cannot identify who this bird is even after we supposedly learned of all the Pokemon. Some said it looks like Lanturn or Oricorio, but I included pictures to show that it can’t be then by comparison.
This makes me believe wholeheartedly that don’t know everything yet. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c1aed5572de404704f7cf0b2b59c87ff36220a338f1af06e68a81539dfb2baf0.jpg
At first i thought it was Piplup, Kyogre, Whiscash, or some new Pokemon.
I hadn’t considered those, but they don’t exactly line up either. This creature is perplexing me.
Looks kinda like Prinplup to me, but there’s definitely stuff we don’t know yet.
Prinplup doesn’t quite match up either.
Maybe that is the pre evo to our dolphin1
Maybe, but I can’t see it as anything other than a bird. Perhaps we’re looking at it differently.
Is it the biggest one in the picture? Becuase it’s very obviously Bruxish.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3a4b6181f71db407f3e5ccc98c6788e23ad4d10b7016ed7380dbda3d4b4d845d.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a2026b7ffec81fec9d00557e93301c36e7e8c1436bbaebdf5225bcaec4c1ed89.jpg
Sorry but that picture looks NOTHING like Bruxish.
Agreed. They both have the protrusion on their heads, but other than that I see no resemblance.
Lips? Check.
Separate body colour on the bottom and around the eyes? Check.
Protrusion? Check
Its so obviously a simplified Bruxish that it physically hurts
Can you outline/make it more obvious?
Sorry, I’m on phone but I’ll try something
Please do I’m seriously trying hard even to overlap or put them side by side but I can’t see Bruxish o.e
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/aa8bb549c660fff76bd7791ae49876aaeb3f8d3e9c1e69cde6e4f60877f80044.png https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/403eae68f2b55faf6d0cce88efa398f61c639cd4f40bf8989f3580e7aa62038f.png
The circles on the mural are really thin, someone tell me if I need to make them thicker
if you squint and look at it you can actually tell perfectly what it is
I can totally see Bruxish now, thank you. Damn it dreams of another Water-type just crushed xD
Jokes aside, Wimpod’s evo if keeping Water-typing is my new fav
Wimpgod is a total BA
I sincerely hope its name is Isotough because it would be the greatest pun they have ever made
There’s a neck, a beak, and a whole different head lining. It’s not Bruxish nor similar.
There’s no neck, that’s an effect caused by the drawing being only in blue and the background colour when Bruxish has three colours
Those are lips
It even has the exact same spot as Bruxish near its lips
Try now:
http://i.imgur.com/l3z6Rv1.png
I wouldn’t say obvious, but it’s definately bruxish.
Oh I see it sorta. Not convinced though
http://i.imgur.com/l3z6Rv1.png
I apologize, I see it now. I had to start at it for like 10 minutes and let my vision blur, but I completely see it now.
More evidence yay!
It looks like a full bird, a bit “fat”, if you consider the bottom two “nipple” blue dots underneath the “neck” are still from its body. We also had Tucan on a T-Shirt and turns out it was a real Pokémon (Pikipek’s evo), so I think this is a new Pokémon.
U should check the left side of the building too.
Looks like Luvdisc a bit.
It’s a jigglypuff as viewed from above
https://twitter.com/KazoWAR/status/788261426867691520
The trainer looks cuter than that atrocity.
They really should fire the person who came up with the idea to give an existing Pokémon only luscious blond hair and call it a new form.
Well they all seemed to agree with it by having it exist. So fire all of Game Freak. lol
Ppl talk about how adorable was that …..and call shit at the same time ….human logic.
I don’t like it, I just wonder how you get it to appear in the wild like that. Unless it’s a hack.
It’s hacked because it’s full model is in the demo, you can tell by how badly the game glitches with it
Oh it’s hacked all right, just thought it gave a better look at how terrible it is.
Can’t load the vid :S
It’s encountering Alolan Dugtrio in the wild, battling it with Greninja.
This is fake right?
nope, they hacked to show dugtrio in battle
Oh, I thought they only found pokedex stills? I they can do that then can’t they hack in the new pokemon to find types and such?
Alolan Dugtrio has data in the demo as you can see it via Poké finder by random chance
They assigned the model to Pikachu’s data, so it has Pika-stats but Dugtrio name + model.
Yeah, hacked in.
Yes and no.
It’s hacked in but the models and textures are real.
Is it normal that i like it just because of how stupid it look?
Probably not, but if that’s true, I’m not normal either. I’d rather it be funny than bland (hence I also like Alolan Exeggcutor.
No, please leave right now (jk)
I see that Salon Roquet had their hands on Dugtrio.
Dear God…
WHERE’S OUR DOLPHIN?
One of the Tapu Legends.
That’s just not cool.
Yeah, we pointed this out in staff chat, but we’ll need to see after it “breaks out of its shell,.”
I actually love that one tbf.
That’s the painful truth.
That doesn’t count: I WANT MY DOLPHIN and not some chimera/hodgepodge of every dolphin-like creature.
ABOUT THE DEXSo that DSX8 person on twitter flat out said that the leaks they gave us were from the demo only and that the full game might have more!!! So Even they are not convinced!!
Which makes me inclined to think that perhaps the models were left in the game for a reason. Maybe not all of them, but I’m not sure.
Nah, they could scrub the models just as easily as they could scrub images. Leave a box or something in place of the Pokemon.
WOO! MORE EVIDENCE! Let’s keep em coming!
I swear if I see an Alolan Dugtrio in the wild (refresh):
http://66.media.tumblr.com/2186119dfdaa9dd902f83de257848791/tumblr_mxafseOv4F1qiohboo5_400.gif
i made the same joke dsnjsdjjds. snatch her weave mama
I’m so salty about Dugrtio! THAT TIME AND ENERGY (IF ANY) COULD HAVE BEEN USED TO CREATE A NEW POKEMON! X_X
“time” as if they took more than 3min to create that
Reporter: How did you get inspired to create the Alolan form of Dugtrio.
GameFreak: Well we were watching some Loreal commercials, and the luscious hair attracted us so much, we thought it would make for a great concept!
Or, they developed that hair to shield them in the region’s harsh sunlight. They are known to have super sensitive skin which is why they spend most of their life underground.
Almost better than my “to disguise themselves as Yungoos” idea.
they were watching rupaul allstars
I feel like that is their process in conceiving a number of other Pokémon.
I feel the same about Raichu, Raticate and Muk, but hey-ho.
While I’m at it, might as well snatch the other two *refresh*
http://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad65/lorcy/redhead_wig.gif
Back off my Sia Dugtrio.
Crabrawler’s Ice/Fighting evolution is one of my favorite Pokemon now. It probably pounds its claws into the snow to leave giant Yeti prints, while in reality humans think it’s a Yeti…but the Yeti doesn’t really exist! I love that concept so much.
It’s grew on me …..so I think Crabrawler could back to my team.
i still have my yekid and Coldossus ice/fighting type
And I have my Yetiny and Yetitan Ice/Fighting as well 🙂
“When you turn 11 in alola, you can participate in our local rite of passage – the island challenge”
Inb4 Ash finally becomes 11.
He was 11 in X/Y anime, they say it in the pilot…
¯_(ツ)_/¯ Ash is too old then.
He became 11 in Johto, then was magically 10 for B/W and X/Y
Okay so barring any unknown version exclusive restrictions i think i have worked out my teams fo my first run of each version (i like to try and stick to new Pokemon or forms (in this case Alola Forms) but and please excuse the crappy placeholder names….):
Sun:
1 – Arrowhood (Final Grass Starter)
2 – Lycanroc
3 – Kommo-o
4 – Alolan Raichu *
5 – Alolan Marowak
6 – Alolan Ninetales
Moon:
1 – Sirene (Final Water Starter)
2 – Salandette (Salandit Evolution)
3 – Wimplash (Wimpod Evolution)
4 – Lurantis
5 – Vikavolt **
6 – Alolan Sandslash
* Will be replaced by Tapu Koko if it is not considered a legendary in the game and is not overpowered.
** Will be replaced by Alolan Raichu if the above happens and failing that may still be replaced by Alolan Golem if it is indeed Rock/Electric type.
Sorry for the spam, but I need to know which one of the GX people played the demo. If I don’t get a response I can’t ask the question.
Ash and Derrick did
Alright, I’ll try to ask them. Thanks!
what your opinion on pikipek evo line
I love it, I love toucans.
right! what typing you think is going to have?
Normal/Flying or maybe Dark/Flying. Likely the former, but the eyes make me think the latter.
My dream tonight: Game-Freak reveals all of these Pokemon are from just the first island… 😀
I would expect they’re from two islands, I’m reasonably convinced that the ferry will open up later and we’ll get to visit a small part of another island.
I want to believe this but it doesn’t explain the legendaries and the UB! Im so torn
Before the leak I had a dream about Starters customization …..And 2 headed Typhlosion.
Honestly, I’d take a complete Pokedex over a full plot dump any day.
as would I, the plot is what I really don’t want spoiled, the pokemon Im ok with
Tbh, even a plot dump couldn’t ruin this now, the graphics, music and mechanics have me hooked.
(I’ll even put up with the cringey ‘alola’ greeting)
Yeah I’ll admit that sucks
I’m not sure what’s cringeyer, the happy-go-lucky “alola *waves hands like freak*” greeting or those “Innit blud” chavs called Team Skull Grunts.
Either way, Scenery > People.
I’m perfectly happy to run around and listen to the music XD
Team Skull might be cringey but they’re amazing.
same
I’m still going to avoid plot spoilers at any cost, I’m still leaving if somebody gets the full game (for real this time, oK?)
I’d give it another week or two until that happens.
Yeah, I’d say around two weeks before the release.
One week maybe. Assuming you mean the ‘murican release.
To end the discussion:
I love the gardian deities #TapuYolo
TFW Dugtrio’s hair is longer than the protagonist’s…
Maybe a sign of things to come?
If I can’t have hair as long as Dugtrio, I’m gonna go ballistic.
Kill one and make a wig from the corpse’ hair.
To end the discussion:
https://s11.postimg.org/75ffogws3/3a4b6181f71db407f3e5ccc98c6788e23ad4d10b7016ed73.png
Yep, definitely see it now.
I don’t see it.
🙁 i see it
I’m in love with the Kokos…
Did you find them in the Alolos?
I’m going to miss this series so much! Did so many things right for once for the Pokemon anime! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3f815f09645b1c5489eccbf2f58bc23f9de895c05d2807cdfb9da5977a2a1c46.png
Except for the championship. That was just piss poor writing.
So late in realising this but just as i was sitting planning my team i realised that owed to the lack of Alolan Cubone, Alolan Marowak is the only Pokemon to not carryover ANY typing from its pre-evolution. Strange
In a few weeks we’ll (the people who watch the anime regardless of the narrative faults) be saying goodbye to the XY&Z gang! Honestly, the XY and XY&Z series have become the #1 Pokemon series in terms of plot, characters, development, battles, and many more! Going to sorely miss the group, but keeping an open mind for Sun/Moon.
http://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/13437239_1569219573372488_1602060575_n.jpg?ig_cache_key=MTI3NjMyNTY0OTAyMjk3NTA1NA%3D%3D.2
good riddance
this cast was beyond insufferable
I loved them all equally. This series had iconic episodes from Serena’s hair cutting episode, to the Team Flare arc, to the gym battles, and the evolution episodes.
The animation quality in the SuMo anime looks fantastic, so I have hopes.
The only part I didn’t like was ash greninja beating dianthas gardevoir then loosing to Alain. Gardy should have been the strongest in the region
D*mn, somehow the twitter account I made literally 10 minutes ago has done something to violate the rules. I haven’t done a single thing yet, what? xD
GameFreak knows all 0-0
they’re watching me…
Always watching
This is all part of the plan
We must offer a sacrifice to appease our mighty overlords
*Grabs Fairy and tosses Him into a volcano*
Twitter must hate you.
ok i need help. this morning i found this great site on twitter that had like all the information in one place. it was like a black bacgrown with a long scroll thru for all the new pokemon and shiny forms and alolans. does anyone know the site or have the link?
Did u mean that? https://twitter.com/kaphotics
no it was a site someone posted on twitter. not a zip file. just a site. someone just took all the pokemon info and put it all together on a big site
https://sli.mg/a/4HOcnq maybe this…
i want dugtrio wig as part of character customization. all 3 of them
Wait, is it called Ten Carat hill because it leads upto the pokemon counterpart of DIAMONDhead?
Or pearls, or gemstones, or gold. Lots of things.
…that’s genius
I’m 80% convinced there are more pokemon that aren’t in the demo.
GF went to the trouble of scrubbing the Pokemons’ stats and preventing them from evolving, so it would seem odd if they hadn’t scrubbed other stuff too.
http://i.imgur.com/HuX7Xe6.jpg
I never thought Id see the day were Pokemon Conspiracy theories arise.
But I believe you are correct
They also forgot to scrub four moves that don’t even feature in the demo.
Moves that haven’t featured yet, I doubt anyone has analysed the script for the demo (i.e. what pokemon will appear). Sure there will be moves that weren’t used, but still. Besides, it might be harder to remove moves.
True, they could show up later in the demo, but if they don’t it’s really weird.
Also I doubt its that hard, they literally scrubbed every move except those four new moves and the ones that the demo Pokémon used: even the old ones and new ones already revealed, which altogether make like at least over 200.
The reason it might be harder is because moves probably require actual code. Stats and Pokedex entries are just data (numbers and text) but moves actually have effects, which implies they also require code, so unless GF has some sort of Pcode/Bytecode/data-based system for handling moves, they might be a different matter.
That or they just don’t care about leaked moves.
I’m 100% convinced, have been all day.
Wasn’t convinced until the hackers got on board but for now I’m that one guy always prepared to jump off the hype train in case it crashes
Fair enough. Though I’d like to point out this has convinced me more than most rumours ever did since it’s based on analysis of discrepencies in an actual technical artefact.
You can view them in battle though? I am looking at it right now.
What do you mean “you can view them in battle”?
The stats. Summary screens are available in battle.
yeah the pokedex seems incomplete
For the first time in two years, Pokemon is FINALLY breaking the 4.0 ratings and DEFEATING Yo-Kai Watch with its ratings!
– Pokemon X and Y debut with a 5.3 rating
– Pokemon X and Y ended with a 4.2 rating
– Pokemon XY&Z debut with a 4.4 rating
– Pokemon XY&Z consistently dropped and wasn’t registering in the Top 10 for quite some time, but after the League it’s picked up pace and S/M should debut anywhere between 3.9 – 5
omg consipiracy theory: what if GF decided to leave all those shines to trick us that is the entire pokedex when in fact there are more pokemon scrubbed and nobody had crack the code yet
yeah thats what people have been saying
you don’t scrub a pokedex of names and typeings and leeve the images thats the biggest part!!!!
I don’t have this woman in my game https://twitter.com/ruiisud/status/788211743201734657
um…. were you allowed to zoom in when taking the pics of jangmo-o?? i didnt realize this lol
No. It unlocks at Dugtrio apparently.
ah ok good… i was having trouble with it when i didnt it lmao
While I watching some steams no one does.
I don’t either.
I believe she randomly shows up
I guess I’ll keep going back and forth for a bit then.
I’m betting on it being when you get a perfect score in the catching challenge or something.
I got a perfect score and I don’t think she’s shown up for me 😡
Fair enough then.
She looks like the 4 day woman, maybe they hacked her thing to happen early.
I’m expecting it was hacked, but I’m feeling too nice to auto-assume it today.
found it!! https://sli.mg/a/4HOcnq i just love how its all together
Oh well, it wants me to put in my phone number, which I dont want to do, so now I have to create a throwaway email adress for a throwaway twitter account.
This is such a chore, I better get a response.
We believe in you! *cheers*
for what ithsme??
Yeah, I get annoyed with that.
What do people do when they lose their phones?
(Though in 10 years I’ve never done that)
I lose my shi*t and pray to God and then I realize it’s in my locker.
And when it isn’t?
(And damn, we never got lockers.)
Most of the time it is or my friends have it.
Would never trust my friends to handle my phone.
Meh. We share a lot of things, and we’ve known each other (most of us) since pre-school, so we basically act like family.
One way or another I’ve lost contact with almost all my friends.
:C I guess that’s apart of life. Once we reach certain steps in our lives, I’m sure my friends and I will drift apart as well, but I’ll enjoy the ride while it lasts. The ride with them will always be worth the fall in the end.
I’m just really happy you can dress like Team Skull, or close to their attire. 😀
Dress like a chav? *cringe*
It’s the opposite of how I dress in real-life, but I find their clothes to be somewhat appealing.
I’ll be fair, I like their bandanas, but their admins have more style than the grunts.
Newly released images of Team Skull on their day off:
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/5/6358421_b0b13495e1.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/CM9bhPKYPi8/maxresdefault.jpg
http://media.thedailytouch.com/2015/06/ChavFeature.png
Umm… okay… ?
lol You’re too much.
I’m just salty because I live in a town where 20-30% of the young population are chavs 😛
When I encountered Team Skull in the demo and saw their text I thought “Oh god it’s secondary school all over again” XD
Lol Yoire going to have a lot of fun beating Team Skull, aren’t you? 😉
On the one hand they irritate me, on the other hand beating them and watching them panic made me happier than expected XD
Lol. They have a solid theme though! To be honest, I feel like as of right now excluding team rocket they are a more realistic team. Team Flare I think was the worst team plot in the series. XD
Fair enough.
So what did everyone think of the Totem battle? I was surprised that Hakomo-o was able to summon Rockruff rather than Jangmo-o. I wonder if that means that Totems can summon Pokemon that aren’t part of their line
I was of the opinion it summoned Rockruff to give you something to activate Ash-Greninja off of since it’s weak to Water Shuriken.
That could be
I don’t know what this Pokemon is… help!
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/24835731ba41ff9f27244628163f3e6cdf6b4868223304ea8a70ddd9f3aa7d62.png
Another pic
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5c51359f5d81602634532da31a84bc16de2579abd51d10315d9a04338502c0b5.png
Rhydon?
Growlithe or Rockruff?
Where was this taken from?
Probably rockruff.
The status shouldn’t be a pokemon all the time right?……wat if I told u it could be Marshadow.
Hmm… https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/50893b2a83323bd2e1265567007dd6159fd26a3c2f8028e59b6571dbe348b000.png
It shares Ghost/Fairy with Mimikyu and maybe the purple Tapu tho
Hey I’m awake! How long was I… Hey cousin your finally here!!!!
Your cousins are ugly. Tell them to scalp themselves.
But wouldn’t that make me a bad Diglett to be telling them what to do when I’m in their home now?
No. You’d be helping them.
They said no they want to grow it to become a surfer
Don’t mind Natsu, they just have bad taste. Sia, Tay-Tay and Madonna ‘gon teach them
Gaga and Mimi are my queens, don’t reference those names (except Sia because I adore her) in my presence… jk! 😀
I guess Gaga could work instead of Tay-tay. At least then the FabTrio would be based off of talented artists.
Am I just stupid? I can’t figure out how to tweet at someone.
do you have their twitter handle?
wut
their username
The @ thing?
Aye, the @ thing.
You probably don’t use twitter enough you are not stupid
I’m surprised that the data miners didn’t confirm that the ultra beasts can be caught in the game.
But Ash-Pikachu can
TFW Kukui calls the player “cousin”…
Lilo & Stitch reference anyone?
not a reference…
that’s just a normal thing in alola/hawaii
Weird. Komala’s definately a reference though right? ; n ;
Im pretty sure they actually do that in Hawaii
Not really that’s a real custom in Hawaii so it is but it also is just natural
Weird.
Then again…
*comes from an area of England where some people refer to each other as ‘me luvver’*
https://www.gamnesia.com/news/nintendo-confirms-you-can-catch-ultra-beasts-in-pokemon-sun-moon
Well there you have it lol
I cant wait to catch very Ookémon
Awesome!
All I want to know is what types they will be.
I was thinking that this would be a good opportunity for them to make legendary Pokemon with three types at once. UB02 Expansion could be Bug/Fighting/Dark for example.
And UB02 Beauty could be Bug/Fairy/Ghost? I actually would like legendary Pokémon to have three types, but I know it’s not going to be possible.
Yeah you gotta admit that if it did happen it would be pretty awesome.
URGHHHH whyyyy… Why couldn’t they just let them be uncatchable story bosses so we wouldn’t have to see them again. They clash so badly with the pokémon aesthetic it hurts. IMO they’re just a waste of development time and code in the first place.
Oh well, at least some people are happy about it…
I agree 100%.
Yeah I have to agree they are quite different from what we typically get. I would have thought they’d be uncatchable too. I always got the feeling that unlike Pokemon (animals essentially) They were of higher intellect and more on the level of humans in a way. Which is why I wouldn’t have thought them catchable.
Alakazam has an IQ of 200… (Damn, kind of feels like slavery now I think about it)
I agree that they don’t really seem like catchable pokemon.
Well……ok yeah Alakazam is a bit different, but you get what I mean. Avoiding the whole enslaving of animals thing is wrong part you’d think that the UB’s weren’t on the same level as Pokemon and thus wouln’t be able to be caught lol
I’d say the reasoning is more that they’re from a different dimension and they look completely different, but yeah, they don’t look ‘catchable’.
(I liked Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker, you didn’t catch monsters, you sort of overpowered their will and they agreed to join you. Just for the sake of mentioning it :P)
I love Kukui’s theme. It sounds so romantic
Sycamores theme nuff said
I’m gonna sleep now and hopefully more stuff gets leaked while I’m asleep because that usually happens.
You can catch Ultra Beasts. Oh God no…….. noooooooooooo…….
Wat the point of them then?
A dark stain on the Pokedex…
How many people have already gotten the demo? I’m getting mine on Thursday.
Almost everyone here I expect.
Downloaded it at 11am this morning whilst in the shower 😛
Why haven’t you gotten it yet?
I’m not old enough to drive yet and my parents are busy when I come home. I have Thursday off so I could go early when my dad’s not working.
The demo is on the e-shop?
Yeah
It’s an eshop demo.
Yeah.
Oh wait. I’m stupid. I can’t play on weekdays though, so…
Oooooh ok that makes more sense lol I was gonna say you don’t have to go anywhere to get the demo lol
Why do you need to drive to get the demo?
Yeah.
My buddy at GameStop gave me some extra Volcanion code cards. I have 4 of them if anyone needs one 🙂 I’ll be home in about an hour
I was going to go into town to get some, but if nobody else desparately needs them (i.e. actually can’t get to a place that does them) I wouldn’t mind not having to go to town XD
They are region locked.
Dang, didn’t know that.
What region is Scizor from though?
They said Gamestop, so probably not a Pal region.
Derp, too many comments to read, not taking it all in XD
Oh well *pencils in trip to town*
US
my country doesn’t have a gamestop so if you’d be so kind to give me one :3
I can only give it to people in the US regions
They’re region locked. I can only give them out if you are in a US region
I could use one! 😀
Are you in the us region?
Are you in a US region
Please! I live in Brazil and there’s no way for me to get one. 🙂
Okay lol. I’ll message everyone that asked for one when i get home
Thank you SO much! I can give you a shiny if you want, got some. 🙂
Nah. I’ll just give it to you 🙂 I don’t need anything in return
OK, thanks a lot then! If you change your mind though, lemme know, it’d be a pleasure to help you back somehow.
Are you ready for the code? I’d recommend having your DS on just so no one tries to take it lol
I’m here! 😀 and ready. :))
A6z7gtgdxggr2ee3
It worked just fine!!! I cannot thank you enough. Here’s hoping all the best for you!! <3
Glad it worked! Enjoy da Volcanion! If there’s anymore that come out at GameStop let me know and I’ll get an extra one for you 🙂
Thank you very much! If you want some shiny, maybe I got the one you need. Or anything else! Let me know. I’ll enjoy it, it’s Modest so it’s perfect really. :))))
Oh nice! I can add you to my friends list if you want. I usually give away by breedjects sometimes and love trading lol
Please do! I don’t know how to do it hahaha… x)))
I heard they’re region locked, so make sure you check people’s regions first. (I’m in PAL so an NTSC one won’t work aparently)
Pharap, for Brazil it’s the same as the USA’s. I believe it won’t work outside the Americas though…
That was a general comment, not specific to your case.
Of course, thanks anyway for you help and concern mate. 😉
I want one! Please!
ARE you in a US region
I’m in Brazil, so yes. 🙂
Sorry about the late response. Let me know when you’re ready for it
That’s ok! Im ready.
When I’m done with work I’ll give you the code 🙂
Ok, I’ll be waiting. Thank u!
Ready? 🙂
Ready!
Okay here’s the code! A6z7gsddasfja9hm
It worked! o/ Thanks to you my National Dex is finally complete! Thank you very much! Arceus bless you! :DDDD
No problem!
Why is there a crack in the wall next to the line of slowpoke?
in the main game you can use the poke finder
That makes sense.
I’m surprised they didn’t let us do it in the demo. Doesn’t seem like something they’d need to keep from us lol
The better question is why won’t those things die after I ram into them with Tauros
Everything would die if Tauros could actually do damage. I’m gonna make it my main form of transportation once the games come out lol
The kid you battle first didn’t, believe me I tried.
Tauros, the gentle rampaging beast!
because you can catch the UB, would we consider them technically pokemon?
I guess………*sigh*……….
Depends how they’re presented within the plot. I’m surprised, but not disappointed, since they represent humans very clearly. So are we technically catching human-robot crossovers? Robots with human souls?
imo: if they have abilities, we can use them in battle and have base stats they are pokemon. in a way they are the pokemon of the future
IKR! They should be considered as Pokémon! Maybe a different race or species of Pokémon?
Maybe we’re heading into a new breed of Pokemon so to speak. You all see them edgy Pokemon we got in SuMo now? lol #WimpodEvo
The Hashtag. That is all. <3
Probably, however they are a danger to both human and Pokémon according to the main website.
Someone suggested the name Champod for its evolution, and that is so incredibly genius I might end up naming it that regardless.
That would be cool. To me, I see Wimpod as the next Magikarp that can actually do something.
I WAS JUST SAYING THAT!! Hahahaha
Lol! Well at least it’s evolution look kinda cool.
Yeah honestly I think the idea of Wimpod being this gens Magikarp might have been spot on. I can see its evo being super strong and worth the endless attempts of wimpod trying to escape from battle lol
Very very, excruciatingly, begrudingly, sadly, yes.
It has been confirmed? Oh man….
Lol expect a big incoming reaction paragraph, I’ve a lot to say about all this and how the pitiful number of unrevealed mons made me decide to just give in to spoilers just like for X and Y.
Out of curiosity, what are people considering worthy of a spoiler tag here?
Also about that weird bug line that was one of the only completely new things, people are saying it’s a water spider, and that definitely seems to be an element… BUT when I saw them, the first thing I thought was “OMG VIRUS POKÉMON Virus pokémon!” . I’m pretty sure I’m right bout this, it’s especially true of the prevo that looks an awful lot like a bacteriophage, and their general alien look is better explained. Thoughts? Has anyone else said this?
Oh, I’d love for that to be the case.
I’m leaning towards water spider tbh
Doesn’t look virusy enough.
Also I don’t really thing it warrants spoiler tags, this place has pretty much become a spoiler free-for-all.
Eh, I’m gonna stick to my virus interpretation, I’m pretty convinced.
I guess the jury is out, we’ll see how the consensus settles when it all goes mainstream.
So I’ve composed a tweet but the “tweet” box is faded out and won’t let me click on it. What does that mean?
Too many characters maybe.
Yep. Man they really limit those things.
Hooray for Sirene! 😀
I really don’t know what to feel about the whole Ultra Beasts thing, man..
I vote “upset” and “annoyed”.
I think it’s great. Seems like we’ll have a pretty beefy plot for SM. So far, we have a UB storyline, a Solgaleo/Lunala storyline, and a Zygarde storyline.
Which I’m all for, since it gives a brand new threat to the games other than “I’m a big baddie who wants to take over the world”.. However, I’m disappointed that they are catchable, since they’re not even considered “Pokemon” or even remotely resemble one.
Now it’s “I’m a big baddie from another dimension who wants to take over the world”
“But you can catch me if you want”
Don’t want, don’t want.
Plus what the h*ll your father has been up to for years.
I love what they add to the story, I wish they weren’t catchable, but it doesn’t matter too much. I hope they get formal names though.
I Nothing them. Perhaps time will change that. They don’t look like Pokémon at all to me.
I don’t really see the problem. It’s great for people who wants to catch them. If you don’t, just don’t catch them and be happy about it too. People tend to overcomplicate stuff, but in this case really, there’s no reason to do it at all.
Can’t be happy about not catching them, that would leave Pokedex gaps.
About the UB…
Maybe they are not catchable at all in the story mode fights they feature in (like say, happens when Ghetsis’ staff repels your Pokeballs), but if you’re a hacker and spawn them in a wild battle they will be.
Oh, and before you say uhhh then only hackers will have UB’s, well only hackers will get UFO’s and Eternal Floettes anyway…
I think that’s wishful thinking, but I hope so.
Well that’s what we’re doing until the release right? Wishing and hoping, grasping at straws? HEH HEH HEH. <3
My faith in gamefreak gets very thin sometimes *looks at Morelull’s evo and the UBs*
Bahahaha. Yeah. It’d take them a massively epic fail before I stop buying their games though.
Question to all who are around: If I change my avatar to a new Pokemonfrom the data mine….would everyone be ok with that or would that be a faux pas? I won’t show off a new Pokemon if anyone still wants to stay away from them lol
I was going to do that for the Morelull evo but I thought against it
I’ve been struggling with this as well. I’m waiting out of respect for others.
Yeah same that’s why I ask hahaha
That’s a bit of a false question since everyone still here has accepted the leaks and the people who don’t accept them won’t be around until the next non-leak article.
That’s fair, but I’m sure there are some people who would like to keep at least some of the new mons secret. Twas just asking out of respect lol
I mean it’s impossible for most people here to say since we’d effectively be giving an answer on behalf of other people. Best wait until a new article and then ask people who genuinely don’t want stuff leaked how they would feel.
I’m entirely expecting a ‘no’, but for the sake of being fair and absolutely certain 😛
You could always do a Riddler style “Rock Paper Scissors/Organs” thing.
true. I’ll probably wait lol
Same here lol
I mean, my avatar is kinda a spoiler already, so just go for it I’d say.
Eh, but yours is different since it’s just Rowlet……a very sexy shiny version of Rowlet that is lol
Totally getting one or two of these things. xD
Olivia is so much fun to draw but all of the necklaces and ties and things are crazy
Get it, girl. Lol (I love her.)
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f9316becbba030c6ed22ef92e77f14304c778cc2fcdcc12ab15830bbd72f024d.gif
Damn girl! She’s got quite the……..booty……lol
She has side boob action going on… xD
This! this is true too hahahaha
She’s the best!!!
Jellyfish, Mosquito, Insectoid thing, Cables, Bamboo, Origami, Mouth Crab Thing, Carbon…
I’m getting that Yokai Watch vibe.
I’m getting inspirational, well thought out, and creative vibes.
Bamboo, muscquito, and galaxy eater make me so happy, I love the UBs.
I should’ve been asleep hours ago, night all zzzz….
night!
You can assign ride pokemon to the D-Pad! Neat!
Yup! Should come in handy a lot!
I wonder if the bike will be back
Predicting no
Damn after 6 entire generations
Gyms. Nuff said.
Well I mean riding a Tauros is way cooler in my opinion
I’m half and half. It feels faster, but I think Tauros is a bit on the large side compared to NPCs, also makes grass harder to avoid.
Alright, after too many struggles for a single tweet, I now await a response from one of the GameXplain-ers. Hopefully it isn’t just disregarded for the amount of effort it took lol.
What was the tweet about?
Basically they claimed there saw more than 1 new Pokemon during their 2-hour playthrough of the game, but the dumps don’t seem to show and early stage Pokemon. Aside from the fact that there are supposedly 9 left, the possibility we haven’t seen everything is high, and we’re gonna try to confirm that.
Gotcha. I wonder if they’d be willing to (or at least allowed to) comment on the data mining leaks. I would assume they are under a NDA so they may not even be able to answer.
Perhaps so. I can’t take another month of waiting though. THERE MUST BE MORE
And there will be. Have patience, I have no doubt there will be more.
So wait they’re 9 left? Really when was this found out about?
Just realised why I recognised the world eater UB:
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spectrobes/images/7/79/Naguzoro.jpg
Digimon?
Spectrobes
http://spectrobes.wikia.com/wiki/Naguzoro
Is this game good?
I enjoyed it. It’s a better Pokemon-clone than Yokai Watch.
It’s about digging up alien fossils, reviving the creature inside (“Spectrobes”), and battling evil aliens (“Krawl”). Spectrobes also ‘evolve’ through different methods.
Found this on reddit http://i.imgur.com/BsbjTP4.png
My friend just spoiled the datemine, and honestly…
It’s not that bad. Just confirms a few new things and doesn’t reveal everything.
Yeah honestly it does seem like GF tried at least a little. No real story spoilers and it almost seems like we don’t have all the Pokemon. We’re still in for surprises that’s for sure lol
We received ZERO story spoilers apart from tenuous hooks here and there which I can live with any day. I would rather they data-mine all the available Pokemon than know the whole entire story.
Oh I totally agree. I actually like seeing all the Pokemon so I can choose for my team. The story I want to see unfold for myself lol
It is odd that we have pokemon spoilers, but that’s it. No characters, no locations, no text, nothing, just the models. Almost makes you think it was intentional, as crazy as it sounds.
Probably was: Pokemon’s been trending for the past 48 hours and then some anywhere between #1 to #10. If it weren’t for the data-mine, less people would be talking about it. Creates more conversation from a marketing point of view.
Pokemon Sun and Moon are #1 on Facebook right now with over 1 million people talking about it during its peak hours.
Plus in retrospect it didn’t reveal that much, only about 2-3 trailers worth if that. Huh.
I’m convinced it was intentional.
I am of the firm belief there will be more.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dTOJF1NQqTg
This video proofs Protean greninja is still stronger.
The night theme gives off sooooooo much D/P/Pt vibes. I love it.
Link?
I don’t really have a link to it, I just heard it off of the demo haha
What time becomes night?
It alternates every time you reload the demo.
Oh, I gotta try that.
It switches between day and night every time you load the demo? I feel like I’ve loaded it twice and it was day both times.
Might be random, I’ve had it turn night during day and day during night. The reload from after seeing the trailer doesn’t count, you have to actually close and reopen it.
Mine turns night during daytime as well. Much like how time functions in Moon, so it could probably be that?
Mine has done both, so it’s either random or it alternates in some pattern like what time you start it or something.
Every time someone mentions D/P/P I get so excited! #SinnohConfirmed #ForeverSinnoh
Yessss take me back to Twinleaf town T.T
Pokemon Platinum: where my journey as a Pokemon trainer began! <3
Also can anyone give me very small hint/description of what Marshadow looks like?
Shuppet. That’s your hint.
Really? That’s what it kinda looks like? That’s a little dissapointing. Was expecting something like big and something that was going-to-wreck-the-world type. That’s a little lackluster…
Remember: this isn’t everything
And also rember: the zygarde scenario
Yeah, it reminds me of the Lunala and Solgaleo “pre-evolutions.” It has to be a badass beast at some point.
Still convinced they’re forms.
Yeah. Whatever they may be, it’s a first for Legendaries!
I thought tbh they were probably along the lines of Phinone and Manaphy
May not be. They could very well be like the light stone/dark stone from BW
So why would they be in the sprites list. That doesn’t make sense….
I mean more like a living form. But I guess you’re right.
Again, another reason why I think we don’t know everything.
Why’s that?
Cuz I feel like marshadow has another form or even an evolution
It just, doesn’t seem right. I feel like all this confidence about there being more than what was leaked might get me dissapointed if there’s not but there is no way there can’t be more to the leaks and marshadow.
We don’t have any more models for Marshadow.
I assume it will be something akin to Hoopa
Hopefully, I mean I really wanted it to be something that was very threatening and stuff but turns out it isn’t
Omg that’s extremely accurate…..
It’s a super duper cutie pie and that’s all you need to know lol
Take a shuppet and mash it together with an Espurr
no shuppet plus castform
…oh… So… Nothing large and like what Kyurem and Zygarde were like..
It will be but it acting cute right now.
Ok, in that case please GF make Marshadow evil looking and large
Yeah this thing cute and small but it hide terror through it eyes.
Best I could describe it is.. a dark-coloured Litwick with hands and feet. Also, a lot “smokier”.
Didn’t think I could do it.. but I actually like a Lot of the new pokemon.. just not many right for me to use
Team:
Togetic
Rowlet3
Litten3
(Pyukumuku?)
Rockruff (sun)
Raichu (alolan)
Ash Greninja? (likely for league and post game if not pyuk)
Oh my god that jazzy Hau’oli city night music is gorgeous.
the way the demo starts up and closes out is so weird. It’s like it’s resetting the system…..anyone else find this odd?
Damn it! CoolGlaceon brings up Pokemon D/P/P and I’m in a puddle of my own tears! This is the power of Pokemon, this is the power of nostalgia, this is the power of wanting to catch ’em all! T_T
https://www.theedgesusu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/pokemon-games.png
Go listen to the night Hau’oli city music. Right now. It sounds super sinnohy, no joke.
Sinnoh Confirmed
Oh my gosh! So true! I love it!
Because it’s jazz. Sinnoh was the jazz generation
Add sun and moon to that roster and we’ve got a look at what an amazing franchise looks like…
Also the stars are so beautiful in the game! D*mn you light pollution! :'(
My dream is to one day live in my house with a family of my very own and look up at the night sky above and see trillions of stars glittering like diamonds.
That’s pretty cool actually, kinda like me.
The one thing I want to do before I die is go out in a remote place somewhere away from the cities and see the stars like you described.
The night music is enchanting! <3
Better than the day’s music even. Makes me want to play Moon first kinda.
Any new Pokemon y’all find in the grass? Cause I just found myself a Pikachu and that’s different. Also the night theme is sooo Sinnoh
I think the only ones in the demo are Rockruff, Pikachu, Pikipek and Yungoos
Oh ok… Was hoping for a little more
There will probably be more in later days or something.
Pikipek, Yangoos, Rockruff, and Pickachu were all I saw
HOLY MOLY
The Hau’oli City theme night is so jazzyyyyyyy great job masuda! I guess he is a tru swinger
It’s amazing, I know!
I feel like I’m in a jazz club, fr.
Uh, it’s still daytime in my demo,no matter what my time is set to, I don’t get why.
Just look up the music on Youtube you can listen to it…
I just don’t get why it’s still daytime in my demo,
Hmmm…. That’s weird!
Sad, I want to see the nighttime changes.
Ohh, but now it’s night, oh well.
Oh god yes, this music is so godly. Ahhh.
That upright bass is slaying me
Sinnoh, is that you? 😛
Masuda hardly composes music. He only composed a lot of themes in Gen 1 and 2, only composed battle themes for Gen 3-5, some battle themes for Gen 6.
I feel that people need to acknowledge the other composers for their work.
I don’t think Sun and Moon will be the best games for long. I can tell that the Sinnoh Remakes will be perfected just from SuMo’s presentation alone
and that music
Are we 100% sure that there will be Sinnoh remakes this gen?
I’m all for it, but I don’t know if we have lots of evidence of having it this gen.
Well, we do have a number of hints.
-Similar music
– Team skull use blue and pink for colors, like Diamond a Pearl
-Mele Mele island has locations based on DIAMOND head and PEARL harbor.
and the list goes on.
did they really name a place pearl harbour in it?
Name it, no. Melemele is based on the island of Oahu, which is home to both the previous locations. The crater shaped mountain on Mele Mele is clearly Diamond head, and its likely that the harbor in that main city is a reference to pearl harbor, given their similar locations.
ohh ok
Indeed, but there is much more evidence going against it unfortunately. Also I think that last one is just a coincidence (maybe not :D)
I mean, we literally just had a remake on the 3ds. I feel like they are saving sinnoh for the next handhold console.
UNLESS, the NX is handheld and home console hybrid and Sun and Moon/gen 7 is playable on it.
And that really doesn’t mean anything. We would have gotten Gen 3 remakes back on the DS if they didn’t decide to go with direct squeals as an idea for a gen, and it backfired. Their not going to put remakes on unproved hardware that they haven’t had much experience with and they have no idea how it’ll sell. I really doubt that we’ll see any main series game on the NX any time soon, and they’ll probably make the Sinnoh remakes on the 3DS to give the handheld a strong sendoff.
Maybe… Probably not the NX.
I mean, I don’t think Black 2 and White 2 was really a bad thing.
But I feel like they’ll stick to the new handheld console pattern for remakes. Who knows, I might be wrong. It looks like a completely new game and engine in these games so you never know 😀
While BW2 weren’t “bad games”, they didn’t sell well. To this day their still the lowest selling main series game. So I don’t find it likely that they’ll ever do a direct squeal again. More likely that they’ll leave a few loose plot threads to be picked up on in the next game, like we’re seeing with Zygarde now.
Also I wouldn’t call this a new engine. Its more like a modified version of gen 6. Kind of like how gen five used a modified version of gen 4’s engine.
Yah… That’s true. But they definitely really improved with the graphics…
I’m very impressed, and let me just say. sinnoh remakes IN THESE GRAPHICS?!
HELL. YES
Probably because of their proximity to the originals and people feeling like Emerald/Platinum weren’t a big enough change and expected more of the same.
A little too early for that? xD
Also I hope SM has a battle frontier. I know that was random but I want it so bad. O_O
Sinnoh <3
Something I wish was in the demo but can’t wait to do in the real game (that would apply to a number of things honestly): more times of day, like the twilight from the E3 demo or dawn
I really miss Sinnoh’s dawn and dusk time, plus the slowed-down music that went with it 🙂
Something bothers m about …..where’s its eyes?….that’s clear it looks like a blue mask with broken teeth but if these things we saw as a teeth actually its eyes ….its character will completely different ….unlike coconut crab yeti crab can live in water and I don’t believe they can live in snowy habitat …….but I want Fight-ice compo so badly.
http://i.4cdn.org/vp/1476835405400.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/KNWsXf1.png
Yeah I know but I am asking wat if these actually an Hawaiian mask and true eyes down below and wat actually we think it’s a teeth it’s actually eyes?
That would be weird.
Regardless I just want him to be Fighting-Ice type.
Tauros!!!! Where’d your front feets go?!?!?!
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ee9556fd5dc6702e0629ba6383e304e02ddde9c0591b6f16239f501933adc00e.jpg
they probably wore down to the nub, pressing b like you own the place
Hahaha this might be true
Secretly there’s a camouflaged Palossand underneath, swallowing it up and sucking away its life force.
Something I wish GF would do is make IVs visible on the pokemon’s information page.
I think your able to do that now with Hyper training.
Hmm, I hope so, but I wish it was available on it’s stat page 😛
As much as I feel there are more pokemon to be revealed, I feel like all of the Ultra beasts were definitely released
The UBs are complete IMO, but the pokemon are not.
yup, same. I feel like we won’t even get a lot more pokemon, but just enough to satisfy me.
*prays for Komala evo and Pyukumuku evo
Yeah I don’t think we’ll get anymore than the 8
I’m satisfied with those, I love Galaxy-eater guy.
Yeah me too. And the taller black on is cool too! Lol
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spectrobes/images/7/79/Naguzoro.jpg
Where is this from?
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Spectrobes.
http://spectrobes.wikia.com/wiki/Naguzoro
Hmm, I played those games but don’t recall this. UB Galaxy-eater reminds me of the one planet that had a bite taken out of it though.
Maybe you didn’t collect all the spectrobes?
The moment I saw the planet eater I thought “I’ve seen this before somewhere”, so I did a bit of digging and turned up this. I’m sure I’ve seen another similar creature elsewhere, except it’s green… Can’t remember though.
I didn’t collect all the spectrobes, that’s for sure.
On a different note it’s unlikely but I want another sequel.
I did 😛
Would be nice. Spectrobes would be great on 3DS.
Upset that the game is still using the American date format.
Muahahahaha
:C
I can’t wait for Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon to be released on 11/18/2016. November 18th, 2016 is going to be a great day. :]
So, in each generation I make a special team with all three starters and Pokemon native to that region, named after RPG summon monsters, and I’m working on this gen now that the dex has leaked. I’m a little unsure of my Litten’s name, though. None of the newly unveiled pokemon fit my team, so no real spoilers.
Rowlet3 (grass/flying) – Garuda
Litten3 (fire/dark?) – ?????
Popplio3 (water/fairy?) – Undine
Vikavolt (bug/electric) – Ark
Lycanroc (Day) (rock) – Ramses
Kommo-o (dragon/fighting) – Yojimbo
I’m so stuck on his name because I’ve used most of the good ones on past generations. Any ideas, friends?
Ifrit?
Naturally, it was taken by Infernape ages ago, and I think of my teams as one big roster, ya know? I was flirting with the idea of Efreet from Tales of games, but they’re basically the same name… I hate being OCD about these things. Thanks for the suggestion!
Well, you could go with Dante?
Astaroth, Azazel, Uriel, Belial, Abaddon
Tony
You’re the worst lol
I try 😛
I can help with that! Love the idea and I do something along those lines too when it comes to nicknaming my Pokémon. Maybe this’ll help – http://goldensunwiki.net/wiki/Summon
My suggestions would be:
Zagan – in demonology is a Great King and President of Hell, commanding over thirty-three legions of demons.
https://media.giphy.com/media/3o7TKuWEZVzhneFvBm/giphy.gif
Or…
Haures – is a powerful Great Duke of Hell in demonology and commands thirty-six legions of demons.
https://media.giphy.com/media/3oriNSnsQJ5nK0WF6U/giphy.gif
My favourite game on the GBA. Or you can count both Golden Sun games.
So if I know only the stuff that Pokejungle told us on this page, plus an idea of what Marshadow looks like, then am I safe from not knowing most of the dex so far and spoilers?
Edit: Last thing I’m asking
What do you mean?
Under New Pokemon and Ultra Beasts, it just lists a few stuff. Thats what I meant, sorry if I was unclear
thats the full dex listed. . . lol
What I mean is where it says New Pokemon and Ultra Beasts up above, like the few things thats listed.
As long as you don’t look too far down the page, yes.
There’s 21 new Pokemon leaked by the dex counting the UBs and evolved forms of existing pokemon.
Oh so that isn’t too bad, alright well I can still go into this blind. Thanks
That’s also discounting the one that got leaked by Amazon for the TCG btw.
If you want I can hint at what does/doesn’t evolve or do a riddler style thing for some of them if there’s anything else you want to know in particular.
Nah I’m good, it’s best at this point to not know much more except the upcoming few SM news
Fair enough. The only other thing I have to say is there’s a lot of unexpected stuff.
Good, the more unexpected the better for me
So my tweet wasn’t directly replied to, but they said they weren’t answering datamine questions.
at least you tried
It was so much effort lol.
i figured as much. I feel like they probably can’t due to their NDA. Seeing as the mining info isn’t supposed to be out yet they likely won’t fully acknowledge it right away.
Wimpod turns into something out of Men in Black.. glad people like it but i dont get it.
Also i dont feel like seeing ash with a legit toucan.. i need to google what they look like because i cant tell the difference
Prediction:
2017: Sinnoh remakes
2018: SuMo sequels or third version
2019: Kanto remakes
2020: Gen 8
2019 is going to be horrible.
Kanto remake, huh? I feel that is the least likely.
My reasoning is that FRLG is older than Sinnoh. When I first realized this I thought maybe they’ll throw Kanto in with Sinnoh or SuMo, but now with another gen with 99- new Pokémon I’m realizing how taxing 3D models are for GF and how they’re actively trying to lessen their future burdens. SO my thought is that they’all just start doing additional remakes in order to maximize their revenues off of any current engine being used.
A remake of a remake would be weird.
I don’t totally disagree. But nostalgia sells lmao We know that much.
Any other region and I’d agree.
Honestly we if it was as simple as snapping one’s fingers I wish we could have all the regions in every visual style they’ve had over the years… Especially gen 6. I loved the chibi overworld. Though SuMo’s more fully realized world is amazing.
HGSS and RSE will always be my favourite stylistically (discounting G7 until I’ve actually got SM in my hands).
Though I personally wouldn’t buy it UNLESS they brought back pokemon following animations!
Id be down for Kanto in 3D
They’d need to fluff it up a lot, those games are weak content wise.
Yeah, they’d need way more than just Sevii islands, they’d need to give most towns a big revamp, maybe even put a new storyline in place.
Maybe give Team Rocket an actual endgame?
If it involves Mewtwo I’d be all for it.
Witnessing Mewtwo having an actual conversation with Giovani in Giovani’s mansion/base would be a nice touch. Even better if they effectively recreate the first film and let you travel to mewtwo’s weird castle/lab island.
Yeah, the backstory was there, but RBY suffered from a weak villain storyline. I agree with all you said! Maybe explain Mewtwo and Mew’s origin story and how Newtwo makes its way to Cerulean cave.
Yeah, Mewtwo had no backstory in the original because it hadn’t been fleshed out yet. They missed the chance to fix that in the first remakes.
Tbh Mewtwo is still one of my favourite legendaries because of how deep his backstory goes. He’s not just a legend, he was created in a lab, abused by Giovani, and lived his life stuck between deciding whether humans are good or evil and not really knowing who or what he was.
That’s something almost everyone can sympathise with – betrayal and being unsure of who you are or what to make of the world.
Mewtwo is my favorite legend For the very same reason. He struggles with feeling if he is an abomination or a creature worthy of the life he was given. Honestly, a remake with Mewtwo as the boxart legend would be amazing, but it CANNOT be another simple remake.
eh, yeah they are but I’d still probably like them they could do a complete story rehaul or something maybe just set in kanto. TBH I don’t really know how I’d feel about a D/P remake either, I hope I’d like it but I hated the originals more than any other main game
Maybe change Kanto entirely? Make it bigger with more landmarks, features, routes, and towns.
“Kanto 10 years later”
*20
Whichever 😛
I agree, but the reasoning does make sense.
I can definitely see it happening one day. Except instead of yet another remake, I would prefer a brand new story set entirely in present day kanto. Everything in beautifully rendered 3D as well as updates on all the Pokemon. Plus Think of how much Kanye has changed in 20 years! Regardless I don’t see this happening until next decade
Who’s Kanye?
No one you want insight on. Trust me
Oh wait, I might know. If it’s who I’m thinking of, you’re right, that guy’s scum.
Gamefreak have a real boner for Kanto. I’ll bet it’s coming back at some point, in some form, to the main games.
Oh, I know. I just wasn’t expecting to see one so soon 😛
I think Kanto remakes are unlikely I think it’ll be a little hiatus like 2015….
possibly kanto remake hinted by snorlax Z attack???
dam I am extremely exhausted just cuz last night hype almost didn’t sleep …….I just want to assure if there’s Dark and Ice type in this gen I mean Litten3 and Crabrawler evo…..Zzzzzzz.
It really disappoints me how underrated the story in Black and White is in the industry. Iy gets almost NO recognition. It deals with mental abuse, morality, animal violence, and ideology in ways other games wish they could. Yet no one seems to notice and just look at the surface elements. “It’s a pokemon game”. Even with just how complex N is as a character shows how much thought and effort they put into the story.
The story is also intertwined with the mechanics. It directly questions whether your actions throughout these games is right or if you really are enslaving these creatures. It asks you to look at it from a different perspective.
I wanna talk about N for a second because he is developed so well. While it is obvious he is a villain from the moment you meet him, he starts out by stating that he can hear what your pokemon is saying. This sets him apart and is a major part of his character. N was taken in by Ghetsis as a young child. It is actually implied that kidnapping may have been involved. N is isolated from the rest of the world. In order to further his own agenda and plans, Ghestis brings him only the pokemon hurt by people. N is raised with a skewed view of how pokemon are treated, but he also grows up connecting with pokemon in a way no one else has. This means he both understands pokemon more than anyone, but also doesn’t at the same time.
His views are soon challenged as soon as he goes out into the world. By now he is crowned king of team plasma and believes he is fighting for the freedom of pokemon, no longer letting them be hurt by selfish people. (Actually the grunts using pokemon themselves illustrates how many are on board with Ghetsis’s actual plans making the ones remaining who follow N in B2W2 very interesting). When N sees that pokemon are enjoying being with people, it makes no sense.
By the end of the game, he still isn’t convinced though. He finds out he was essentially Ghetsis’s puppet and is even verbally assaulted by what he saw as his Father his whole life. The game ends on him saying “Farewell” and he flies off with Zekrom to really find out what the truths are.
Brilliant writing. I hope this game will get the recognition it deserves.
Deals with “serious” issues?
Oh please, SM has interdimensional beasts resembling important characters, what could beat that?
Agreed. BW sucked me into that world like no other game before or since. This is my nostalgia speaking but I’d take a remake in the style of SuMo and delay SuMo if I could. lol
Exactly! I hope SM has a very solid story, maybe even a story that exceeds or is on par with BW. It has the tools to be one, so I’m pretty confident we’re in for a great story.
The animal stuff and questioning the world I sympathise with/respect, the rest didn’t seem that impressive though.
Also I don’t like ‘implied’ without some form of evidence that makes it almost irrefutable, otherwise it’s too open to interpretation.
this…….THIS THISSSSSSSSSS a thousand times yessss 100% agree, its one of my main reasons why 5th gen is my fav (also 3rd gen too)
I thought B/W were super cliche and boring storywise.
Then I really need you to got back to literary analysis and creative writing, because B/W is one of two pokemon games with the least amount of cliches. Sun and Moon maybe the second. Same with storywise. The story in B/W and B/W2 were much better than most of the other games.
I just found yet another small ting GF added to the games! Just like if you keep spinning your character does a little spin thing, if you repeatedly press the B button quickly while walking your character will trip lol
That’s pretty cool, I just tried it out,
It’s so cool how much life and personality they’re putting into these games. Obviously we don’t need a trip animation, but it’s cool that it’s there hahaha
Yeah, found that a few hours ago when StarStorm posted a gif of someone doing it.
Oh sure, they’ll programme tripping in to add a little touch of real-life, but they take out the ability to sit on things :/
starter pokemon prediction
-grass based on Velociraptor
-fire based on cow
-water based on dolphin
final starter evolution
-final grass evo based on samba
-final fire evo based on minotaur (hopefuly not fire fighting)
-final water evo based on mixed Narwhal and knight (similar white dolphin from yugioh)
region based on singapore or not??
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/50671a7e1d074f1678f7cf1a3307f99276d539278887901c8e6372da703bf209.jpg
y’all need to slow down, gen 7 isn’t even out yet *_*
LOL these people ain’t got no patience
People: “game got datamined, we know everything, time to move on to gen 8”
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We’ll get new stuff though trust me
Oh bruh I trust you.
I’m like 85% sure we get more stuff we haven’t seen.
If not tho, I’m trying to keep my hopes down because Imma be really dissapointed.
I’m expecting more but I won’t be disappointed if we don’t because the region is beautiful enough to be its own gift.
Yah I’m sure the games will be great regardless. It’s just disheartening to hear not one single ice type chain or dark chain (potentially).
And a crap ton of standalone pokemon? Nah this can’t be true.
I wouldn’t be surprised tbh
Gen 7 already has Singapore influences. People keep saying Hawaii, but it’s all of Pacific Asia too.
Thats is a huge stretch!
It’s really not at all. There’s even a hotel somewhere in the game that’s based off of a famous hotel in Singapore.
First impressions
Alolan Dugtrio – Nice and understandable. Some can argue it’s a wasted opportunity tho reveal its real body, but why reveal the man behind the curtain? It’s their mystery, one of which may never be explained if they really stick to their roots – which they do a lot nowadays. Maybe and if when it’s close to an ending for the franchise, they can though.
Alolan Persain – I really don’t see a reason, even though I’m sure they have it, for its existence right now. It’s not only ugly, it’s grotesque. Hopefully it’s to do with something meta so we can bear it, otherwise just kill it with fire.
Alolan forms – They really wasted opportunities here. Lots of mons could breathe new life like Ninetales and so on. Lots of types would benefit with new additions. So, why exactly introduce just a few and some questionable ones? That of course, if this is all there is. Would be nice to have some insight from the development team in that case.
New pokemon – I’m generally satisfied, specially with potential Fairy/Poison and Bug/Dark new mons. My only complaint is the excessive amount of standalones – again, if this is all there is (which I believe it is). Why? The first generation’s got almost all of the mons covered with post-games evolutions (mega or not) and it just goes against the franchise’s main deal. I really don’t understand, it seems lazy.
The designs, though, all are refreshing. I don’t care if it’s only a few new ones, I wanted new megas for sure, but the ones we’ve got are awesome. I even like the freshness of UBs. Still, it’s sad to see types like Ice getting no love, as always.
Well, I’m very pleased in general! Nothing can be perfect though, right?! 🙂
you know what’s weird is shiny rowlet and dartrix are actually one of my favorite colors which is blue and teal
https://twitter.com/RealShigeruM/status/788471043279220736
O.o
I like the Ash Pikachu thing. Seeing a Pikachu wear Ash’s caps is cool. But I’m interested in Solgaleo and Lunala’s pre evos/lesser forms…
Meanwhile over at the Gen 8 design boards…
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvFHhZmXgAAcooH.jpg
Someone said the Morelull and Salandit evos were disappointing. Umm where are they? I wanna see them 🙁
Just them or the whole list?
EVERYTHINGGGGG
http://i.imgur.com/6vg8DbK.jpg
Spoil me like an only child on his sweet sixteen
A) That was disturbing.
B) Do people have sweet 16s these days?
XD
I was always told only girls had sweet 16s, aka my sisters had big blowout partys, and I got a small cake
On the one hand that’s sexist, on the other hand I wouldn’t want one anyway so it wouldn’t have made a difference to me ¯_(ツ)_/¯
It was just a simile :/
And idk isn’t there an MTV show called my super sweet sixteen?
I dunno, I don’t think my country gets MTV or celebrates sweet 16s ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Are you seriously doing that subtle thing where you act like you don’t know about something just to say you’re not american?
No, seriously I have no idea what sort of stuff MTV has on, last time I checked we don’t get that channel here.
And I’m serious about the sweet 16 thing, never heard anyone discuss it when I was 16.
its all subjective, Morelull evo is my fav, and salandits evo’s shiny is awesome
No my point was the fact that someone said that, meaning they saw the evos… I wanna see them too. Where can I see them?
If you want the whole list I can direct you to it, if you just want to see those two I’ll cut them out for you.
Yessss please
star just posted them above I think
Salandit’s is unexpected, if you’ve been disregarding what the leaker has been hinting towards all this time, that is.
Morelull’s is… ok? I don’t love it but I don’t dislike it either
Show me!!!!!!
The Riddler’s hints don’t match up with Salandit’s evo at all.
Without a pokedex entry, it doesn’t look like it at first glance.
It does look a lot more feminine, and I can see it luring male pokemon in to… erm… You know.
I don’t think it looks particularly feminine.
https://i.sli.mg/6lhmMp.png
https://i.sli.mg/y7vKKe.png
Omg I love them actually
Salandit’s evo I can understand liking, but not what they did to Morelull.
Really? It makes sense tho. It looks like a high guy on shrooms.
That’s not a good thing, it’s supposed to be suitable for children 😛
Plus the face looks really badly drawn on.
Designs are for children. The stories behind the designs are for the adults.
YAY more Morelull evo fans
My brother is devastated by Salandit’s evolution. Lol and I’m just here like: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/dd64cf99f9c85625460b09c4d5f2898d459517696715a7ec280cc27ed6919c0f.png
It has definitely grown on me
I don’t get why. What were people expecting?
It’s more slender than I was expecting but other than that it’s mostly what I expected.
He was expecting a toxic-dripping drake, apparently.
Lol as if GF would do that
Lol I did want a Komodo dragon.
In this case I’m happy it stayed a hunched-over biped. Might have been interesting though.
She might be pretty interesting to be honest!
What makes you think it’s a she and not both male and female?
I’m still going by the Riddler’s leak saying it was a female based evolution. Has it been confirmed otherwise!?
No, but if the Riddler is right I’ll be kind of upset. Also I’m pretty sure the Riddler started making stuff up near the end.
If nothing else he got the Toucan wrong.
True. I honestly hope he’s wrong as well. I still don’t get how a woodpecker becomes a toucan. Lol
Imagine the toucan pecking at the speed of a woodpecker. Dem holes XD
Right!? XD
They are related species, and the evolutionary line showcases the beak getting bigger. It really isn’t that much of a stretch.
Hm, well they are related in family, but that doesn’t make it an acceptable evolution line. The reason toucan and woodpeckers are in the same family is because of the way their feet are developed(If I recall correctly). Toucan use their long beaks to pilfer through holes in trees, etc. to steal eggs from other birds or eat fruit whereas Woodpeckers are insectivores and only eat bugs. Vastly different creatures with slight similarities. We’re related to apes, but we’re quite distinct, right?
I love slender Pokemon so salandits evo is perfect for me!
never cared about the first one so the second one I didn’t either lol, they are fine though
Glad you’re feeling better, buddy! 🙂
I have a meltdown like every second day, its nothing new lol, but thank you 🙂 ~~~
*pretends you didn’t originally reply to the wrong comment*
Honest to arceus I clicked on him and it replied to you 😛 sorry
No worries! 🙂 Just glad you’re feeling better!
I wonder if it stays part Fire type
Both among my faves
https://twitter.com/RealShigeruM/status/788434543401369600
Ewwwww lol
Puke-umuku… tbh though i like its shiny colours
But @Pharap that pic just has what was datamined right? Because I really hoped Comala and Pyukumuku would get evos
Yeah, just what was datamined.
It’s sill plausible that there’s more stuff but we don’t know for definate.
Don’t worry! 😉
-worries-
*gets angry*
Night guys! Today’s been fun but I have a big day tomorrow so I need to get some rest.
*looks at time* 3:40am
I’ve done it again…
*cries*
You from Europe too?
Britain.
I feel ya I have PSAT’s too
Good Night everyone!
I’m glad I decided that Moon will be my main game because this Night music is so much better than the Day music in my opinion. It sounds very reminiscent of Sinnoh music.
http://orig10.deviantart.net/eaf1/f/2016/288/3/6/mallow_as_steenee_gijinka_by_cjsux-dal4i8q.png
Gonna go, I’ll leave you people with this:
http://waniowani.deviantart.com/art/What-Bounsweet-is-evolving-640212416
It’s kinda weird how Joe Merrick is 100% certain that EVERYTHING was shown. That there is no possibility of new Pokemon.
Either he’s on the GF pay roll or he’s making a big gamble.
Big gamble I’d say. Or trying to stay quiet so GF doesn’t take Serebii down or his twitter account.
https://twitter.com/JoeMerrick/status/788246785940656128
Perhaps
Yeah. A lot of this seems strange. Heck I’m still pondering the vague working around that one game rep from that recent gamexplain video and the status of new megas. Off topic of course.
It seems unlikely that this absolutely everything. The dex feels strangely hollow.
yeah, even compared to gen 6, there was more diversity in that even with only one bug line, the pokedex seems more incomplete if thats possible
Heck it could be highlighted by the lack of charizard in the dex, according to what was leaked. It seemed all but confirmed that the Kanto starters were in the game, and we even ride on one. Seems really strange that the good folks of Pokeride simply import the overgrown salamanders for people to ride on, and yet there is no way to obtain one in the game.
And that’s blatantly ignoring the riddler leaker who seemed to imply that a lot of other pokemon were confirmed, but not in the data that was leaked. So who really knows now.
I guess we’ll have to wait and see
He’ll see in time, 😉
I doodled Olivia
https://67.media.tumblr.com/d980e3a666fb9d5c27a8ef828d6f1a9a/tumblr_of9yd2YNFq1rks5v8o1_1280.png
THATS AMAZING!
Thank yoouuuu!!!
wow star your skills are improving beyond belief, her face highlights I especially love. Good job, I’m so proud
Thank you! I’m so glad you like it! I took some time to practice on a school project and experimented with styles and watched some tutorials yesterday. I’m excited seeing how it is making things better!
love it! do you take requests?
Yeah! I love requests!
Do you think you can draw Ribombee? I’d love to see it in your style, if you would like to draw it 🙂
Sure! I’ll draw it tommorow!
Thanks, can’t wait to see it 🙂
I haven’t seen anyone draw a decent Wicke yet! I know you care more than capable.
Looks great! 🙂
Thanks!!
Nice, nice, nice! Overall nice looking pic!
Things I can see that can be improved are that she needs more body on the back of her head/skull, and the right arm should still be covering her armpit, plus her foot needs to be bigger.
Yeah you are totally right. I gotta work one that’s! Thanks for the constructive criticism!! Really helpful!
Crap….just got up and nothing else was leaked…but I’ve been wondering who is our mew/celebi/jirachi/laketrio/victini/hoopa of this generation? Could it be the thing we’re calling Marshadow but if that’s that then…..who is our real 3rd main legendary to complete the trio? Zygarde? Is it possible that Kalos and Alola both share the same main legendary? Instead of a legendary trio, there is actually 5 main legendaries (sol+luna+yvel+xer+zy)??
Magearna is our first event.
Marshadow is likely the third Pokemon but could also be another event.
If Zygarde is somehow also the third Pokemon (again) it’d be weird, but I guess Zygarde’s plot wasn’t discussed too hard in XY so it was more like a bonus capture rather than part of the plot.
I feel zygarde will most likely serve some sort of plot in this game, whether that be post game or main quest, something will likely happen.
As for legendary trio, I think the legendary quartet of Tapu Koko and Friends serve as their replacement. So it is also possible that there’s no real “third legendary” since it was moved to be one of the quartet.
I’m talking about main trios. Like Rayqauza, Kyogre and Groundon.
I think Marshadow is the third pokemon.
But then who is the celebi/mew/victini?
Or maybe we don’t know everything and we don’t know our third legendary yet.
Or maybe I’m really keeping my hopes up and will probably get disappointed later on.
So I’m thinking the pokeride has to be like soar rather than like fly. Or at least different flying pokemon will do different things.
Well, sometimes I wanna Fly for convenience, sometimes I wanna enjoy the scenery… I would hope there’s a separate Flier and Charizard is the Soaring Pokemon.
I think that’s most likely. I’ll be disappointed if there’s not the option.
Ah. Well the alternative is that Charizard is both the fly and soar Pokemon, but that’s also disappointing.
I just want soar to stick around. I bet Alola would look beautiful
It’s possible Fly can still be used outside of Battle as it always was, Just as a TM, which Charizard for Soar.
Alola Marowak isn’t in that leaked link that showcases all the Pokémon…
I have 2 image files saved to my laptop incase they become hard to find: one of the entire list of non shiny pokemon introduced in gen 7, and one of all the alolan variants, shiny and normal, which does indeed have alolan marowak.
Do I just turn off the demo to stop it?
You can if you want
Yeah basically, when you complete an important event it saves automatically
Yeah just go back to 3DS main menu.
It only saves and goes back to the demo’s main menu when we complete the event.
Apparently fossil pokemon have been found, I heard is on the smogon leaks forum but I cant navigate their site
From the same place just just confirmed Fly and Surf as TM.
Links to that info, please and thank you?
http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/pokemon-sun-and-moon-demo-datamine-collection.3584810/
But this doesn’t say anything about the fossils or TM’s… hmm
Latest page. Yeah I don’t see any fossil talk yet.
edit: The TMs were mostly on the IRC only so far. I guess they didn’t feel like reposting on the smogon leaks thread until datamining of TMs are complete.
nvm I see talk of TMs now just not fossils
I saw that too being said on twitter but I cant find any actual info :C
omg omg omg omg omg please be a cool dino :3
When people post information, it would be great if you could post sources for that info, might help us debunk or confirm it.
This has probably been posted before, but what if the thing that’s in Lillie’s bag are the Legendary pre evolutions?
Before, we thought it was a Zygarde cell.
(Not spoilered because it was in a trailer.)
The very first time I saw that part in the trailer, I thought it was the other starter; the one that didn’t get chosen. So, basically, Rowlet.
Oooh that is cool too. That plays in with the conspiracy theory that Lillie is really a good battler/e4/the champion and is just hiding it…
It has been confirmed by Polygon that it was indeed the pre evo/form of the legendary pokemon of each game that was in Lillie’s bag.
Polygon confirmed that it is. They said that Lillie had Lunala’s. Given that the copy that the press played for 2 hours were all Pokemon Sun. I think you can find the other legendary but instead they’re the small ones we see
Yeah, I wouldn’t take Polygon’s word for anything. They’re known for clickbaity sensationalism.
Proof.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/33aa3915daa079930075fbdc7cce7639700a99b75b33c7ae89e7b6449d2daba9.jpg
there’s more guys! https://twitter.com/SciresM/status/788598271048646661
AHHHHHHHHHH
Yayyyyyyyy!
This couldn’t possibly be more Pokemon could it? It’s probably items or something.
TMs and trainer types are very likely too.
Also yeah sprites of items.
pokemon sun moon now avaiable steam?????
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6fada456c8bb555b704c001726eb67a0519d3b089ba3affd4519a9caf08caa3e.jpg
So if we are expecting Fossil pokemon, if their similar to Hawaiian Fossil records I can see it either being a botanical or marine in nature. Since most of hawaii’s fossils are aquatic life or plants, iirc.
So Icthyosaurus or something like Lileep/Cradily…
These maybe most modern fossil we will have to date in this game since most recent fossil in Hawaiian come from this period, the Quaternary Period.
Quaternary meaning after the ice age? Hmm… that’s tough. That makes me think, why not just make non-fossils instead.
Though, there are some extinct hawaiian species like certain dog breeds and at least one flightless bird, right?
I mean I can see Rock/Grass that looks like an ancient plant, I can see ancient marine line such as coral, mollusk, sharks. Or some post ice-age fossil.
Wait so is that really the full pokedex leak, even though there isn’t any fossils?
My team so far I think https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e5a5ee97d7a8f4335d4c57f64ce925ebcea5b8d539ca1568c09685fd01114588.jpg
I couldn’t help myself myselfI poked at the list. The amount of stand alone Pokemon astonishes me.
I know right?!.. I have a feeling we will see more
Do you know what I hate more than Fire/Fighting…
Normal/Flying.
It was a long trend from the very beginning that the regional birds had, until Talonflame broke it. Not only that, but there’s Fearow, Dodrio, Farfetch’d, Chatot, and Braviary.
And Pikican doesn’t seem that it will be innovative. I guess that they sacrificed unique rodents and birds for a unique bug
I wish there was more variety for sure. But I also kind of like the consistency. It makes the game feel more like a consistent world with a standardized biology. Like real life, there are some exceptions, but a lot of the worlds wildlife is a variation of the same thing, in a different region.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh7RNb_PK1c
That new ball looks dope even if it’s only for UBs, based on its design and light effects it makes sense it would be only for them. Just a bit sad you can catch them since it lessens them in a way
IN TERMS OF FOSSILS, Kaphotics has confirmed that there will be no new fossils in Sun and Moon, since there are “no fossils on volcanic islands.”
IN TERMS OF THE DATAMINE VIDEO PART 4: The link to the video is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh7RNb_PK1c. Kaphotics confirms that HMs are gone and gives the full TM list. He describes some new items, as well as the Strange Souvenir, whose item data is not changed. There are Z-Moves for every type. Primal Reversion and Hoopa Unbound were found in the data. It also appears that what we got is what we are getting for Sun and Moon. All new Pokemon have been revealed.
It just seems weird that there are so many standalone mons
I don’t mind standalones, but it does make me sad if their stats aren’t good enough to make them usable, because then they’re pretty much just dex fller. I hope I’m going to be proved wrong, but Komala does not look like it’s gonna be very capable in battle.
I think Komala could potentially evolve in another game.
I’m sorry but this whole ‘there’s no fossils on volcanic islands’ explanation is silly. I’m pretty sure pandas aren’t native to France, yet we still got Pancham in Kalos. If there’s no fossils, fine, but I wish people would just say that and not feel the need to come up with a very real-world excuse for a very fantastical game.
Tm Leech life? Just what I always wanted XD
What ever fastened to the original Chinese leaker’s dolphin and snowman? I wonder if they were removed during testing…
snowman = crabrawler’s evolution = yeti crab!
dolphin = purple koko!
*cries*
I know at this point, that’s probably what it is, but the purple Tapu still looks more swordfish/marlin to me than a dolphin.
eh close enough i guess 😐
I guess when it comes to things like this, it’s close enough, but whatever. I’m cool with what we have anyways (although a real dolphin mon would be nice)
I’m curious: I wonder what people’s problem is with the quantity of standalone mons like Tauros?
I have no problem with them but I really expected/wanted the koala and sea cucumber to evolve :/ they’re so smol
No problem, it;s just that during my first runthroughs, I like using Pokemon that evolve. It’s just something I do.
Cool, that’s fair!
Tauros looks like a complete Pokemon. It functions well as a standalone. Same with Lapras.
Komala looks like it could have an evolution
The problem is not with the standalones, it’s when a standalone Pokemon looks incomplete as if it could have an evolution.
I feel it saves a lot of variety. For instance there’s a lot of Pokemon who people consider their pre-evolution to be far superior to their final forms. However by choosing to opt out of evolving, your using a viable, but still significantly weaker Pokemon. So with these ones that feel “incomplete” there are Pokemon for people who aren’t just trying to get a bigger Pokemon and are happy with the small.
I like evolving Pokemon more than ones that don’t but I 100% get the appeal of Pokemon that don’t evolve and evolution that are disappointing. I feel like there’s also a weird bias at play which takes something small and assumes it always has to be something more. Which is a design consumption flaw, even when it’s Pokemon.
But if we wanna talk about incomplete Pokemon, people have been waiting for that farfetch evolution since blue/red, haha.
The idea of giving Farfetch’d an evolution as late as Gen VII would be a bit… far-fetched 😉
But for srs: Dunsparce.
Sometimes it’s about stats and competitive play as well. I know a lot of folks were hoping to use komala but something like that would never stand a chance in competitive play
Maybe someday. Though the did stop making prevos/new evos since Gen 4, the next gen is 4×2…
They have a bias for big vs little. Where if something is small, it has to turn into something big to be worth it.
There is also a sort of spoiled aspect, that’s totally fair. Where Pokemon used to be about evolving them. But now the games are becoming more about the Pokemon and their varieties, and not just how they change. Which I think is a good thing. I don’t need every cool pokemon to evolve into something ugly.
Evolved Pokemon also tend to have better stats. I doubt komala is as strong as Tauros….
Aha good point. So it’s like saying Sunflora or Sudowoodo (though both did evolve from something) is “incomplete” or something…
So this really is all the pokemon we are getting?
It’s just so weird with certain mons that I sort of doubt that’s all we’re getting. But if it is all that we’re getting, it’s just what we gotta accept really.
I’m hoping GF will catch us off guard and reveal a Pokemon not in the leaks and have us all question reality
Same, I think that would make me so hyped.
The dataminers have confirmed that all they can find in the demo is the data for the regional dex. So the only way we’ll have undiscovered Pokemon is if Gamefreak do what they did in D/P and have new Pokemon in the full game’s national dex. It’s unlikely but not completely impossible. I think we should brace ourselves that this is all we’re getting.
Nope IMO.
List of TMs (spoilers)
http://imgur.com/aIzjCi5
Legend: Red is the move it used to be. Blue underline = former TM. Yellow underline = new unnamed moves.
WHAT THEY SCRAPPED DIG THAT CANT BE ITS ALWAYS TM26 ALWAYS
Replaced by leech life no less.
Aw… dig was cool. And so was the Gen 4 Stealth Rock TM…
yfw when Wimpod’s evo is still a wimp, and still has Wimp Out and has idle animations of it curling up into a ball and crying during battle.
No! Don’t say that! T.T lol
If the new pokeball is used for UBs only and you are given only 1 per game, who will you catch?
I am catching UB-02 Beauty
I’m throwing it away
Give it to me and I’ll give you a Ho-Oh instead
I mean, If we need special powers to defeat them how the hell would we even be able to use them in battle? I’m personally not catching any
You need the special power only in the in-game encounter I guess.
I am offering 5IVs or any legendary for an extra ball like that 😀 can I reserve yours?
Sorry but I refuse to catch or let people catch them If possible x)
Ah you evil Dark type devil, I am gonna catch every damn UB lol even if I have to trade my shiny 2011 Suicune for those 7 New balls. Leo you are BAD at doing business, BAD!
I don’t really care about shiny pokemon anymore since I was able to RNG a shiny feebas in HGSS + I don’t play competitively. There is only one person here to whom I could give it but they are ignoring me lol
My theory is that they are just the same as any other legendary Pokemon. Perhaps, the only thing that separates them from legendary, is that they are man made. Which could qualify Mewtwo as an ultrabeast too.
But like any other game with a special mechanic, it’s not all that special in the end. So the UB’s will be fine I’m sure.
Aren’t they from another dimension though?
they emerged from the Blind Eternities.
I don’t WANT them. I’ll kill one any day but I’m not befriending those fucking things. Imagine? Yuck
LOL
anyone else think Ultra Beasts are like Eldrazi?
Either that or Phyrexians…
What the hell happened to AZ Floette?
Lots of untied ends
HMS are gone, folks, can I get a HALLELUJAH? 😀
Sad about the loss of the bike. I know we have pokeride now, but as a breeder I spent so many hours on the bike and always considered it a neat part of the game that should never be scrapped.
I want the bike still be there. It’d have to be faster than the Tauros/Stoutland.
(And it’d be awkward to go around Festival Plaza with Tauros to hatch eggs all the time…)
Tauros, mama needs to hatch some eggs! Run! XD
I honestly prefer pokeride so much. I love that thing. Can’t wait to ride mudsdale through the town
So, Ultra Beasts can be caught using the new ball…
Has that been confirmed, or are you speculating?
Kaphotics showed a video of the Ball being used, which when opens, has the same portal animation that UB01 had when it appeared in one of the trailers
Knew about the new ball, but I didn’t notice the similar animation. Thanks.
What will happen to Surf? Or Dive and Waterfall
Confirmed to now be TMs
Well three HM’s are confirmed to be Tm’s. The others seemed to be scrapped.
Yay!
Surf, Fly and Waterfall at least are TMs.
Cut will probably be distributed to Pokémon now via level up, and Dive has already been through times where it wasn’t a HM.
So happy that there are no more HMs! Goodbye to dead traditions
To be honest, the more I think about it
Komala and Pyukumuku not evolving makes sense: Komala already resembles an adult Koala! It’s already fully grown, it’s just that it’s a small Pokémon based on a small animal. As for Pyukumuku, the same kinda applies, as well as the fact it seems to be the joke Pokémon of this Gen due to how it fights and how it’s so inefficient it’ll sometimes let itself starve to death before moving.
Comfey and Mimikyu are less surprising, but it’s obvious it’s because their abilities. Tbh I wouldn’t be surprised if they got Evolutions in the future if GameFreak ever returns to them if they turn out to be flops.
Oranguru, Passimian and Anchordude just look like stand alones.
hey you get your diva Salandit now lol
In ancient wars, we used to catapult Komolas towards our enemies. If the log didn’t take them out the drool would. (Lol Pokemon warfare)
“HMs no longer exist and are not available as a regular TM”
HM slaves be like https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f0222c480b9c58eef77147a502912abbfc034b9d0cc2f49673454f86d6dadd56.jpg
You mean “now available” right?
i copied and pasted that, blame the writer 😛
“The Pokémon models found within the demo are only from Pokémon found in the Alola Pokédex”
So, it’s possible, but not likely, that there are some more new Pokemon, but they aren’t in the regional Dex, like Gen 4 Sinnoh. But I doubt it.
So what does “The Pokémon models found within the demo are only from Pokémon found in the Alola Pokédex” really mean? Is there any chance that there are still more new pokemon unrevealed? 🙁
That chance was always there.
What do you guys think of the full Alolan dex, including all old pokemon. It looks like theres around 280 in total, which is considerably less than the Kalos dex.
So far so good
I’m kind of glad they’ve decreased the size of the dex, it promotes the new pokemon, which is something XY failed. What I don’t understand is why we need so many returning pseudo legendaries.
I hope the in game trainers use those pseudo legendaries to make the game harder
That would be good. On the whole, I hope all the trainers are harder than XY, especially the trial captains and Kahunas
I counted around 320 actually
Can you give me a link to the source because I’ve recounted and I’m still getting around 280. This includes Ultra beasts and Alolan forms.
I like the B2/W2 amount rather than Kalos’ pseudo National Dex
I agree with you, BW2 had a perfect size. Kalos was too big.
Kalos’s PokeDex was *way* too big. I couldn’t decide what to use, and some only showed up in hordes which means they were way lower level than all your Pokemon and if you wanted, say, a Murkrow, you had to train it up a lot, then you might find something you like better on the next route… I’m a catch ’em all trainer, and it was overwhelming.
Excluding Alternate forms:
Gen 1 88
Gen 2 30
Gen 3 33
Gen 4 29
Gen 5 28
Gen 6 14
Gen 7 82 (Including Ultra Beasts)
So 304
Though I maye have counted wrong, I didn’t count Alolan forms as different from their normal forms but I’m not quite sure if by Nat Dex they would be. All Zygarde are counted as 1. And the blank spaces aren ot counted.
http://imgur.com/gallery/5C8ry
Either way, so glad it isn’t as overcrowded this time.
“The Pokémon models found within the demo are only from Pokémon found in the Alola Pokédex”
So, it’s possible, but not likely, that there are some more new Pokemon, but they aren’t in the regional Dex, like Gen 4 Sinnoh. But I doubt it. Though, this could be where the “Earth/Eclipse Legend” is if we do get one, cause I doubt it’s Marshadow.
Also, the question Marks CAN’T be new pokemon, because then how would you explain Raticate and Zygarde. Theres no Pokemon between Raticate and Spearow in the Dex, this is why it’s more likely totem pokemon for some reason. And in the case of Wishiwashi, it’s not a Totem Pokemon, just a regular Boss on account of it’s School Form . If this is the Case, Zygardes gonna be one hell of a Battle, what would it call? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a892e91ada552811055122417e9bc9555da70ab31ac4a81ed9c4ab78468a0c8c.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e2d501397f2a31a550fc577624512125663d6923ca56df0e8e03874e716e83fb.png
Lack of Alolan forms make me sad after introducing such a cool idea. Guess we’ll see more in the third game?… If there is a third game?…
They showed us the completely different ones first, then as time went by the showed us the seemingly lazier ones, there was a lot of potential, though we have to wait and see the reason for Diglett, Dugtiro, Geodude,Graveller and Golem we also have to wait and see their types.
I’ve heard it before, but what is golem supposed to be?
http://lunar-xerneas.deviantart.com/art/Starlight-640974503
I have waited so long for a graceful water starter to happen
Hey, Feraligatr is graceful. XD
best final evo by far, i’m so jealous… tony the tiger is terrible 🙁
I love its design. To each their own, I suppose.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/76c114adc32b4041b9f132c5ba22793e91bb2651ee124e0c347d171ffc810c29.png
fanart is cool, but it isn’t the real, I just can’t accept a bipedal cat hahah
I was expecting a new arcanine bad ass, not a machoke :/
That’s the problem, buddy. :/ I was originally team Popplio, but I was expecting a clown evolution. I don’t hate Popplio3, but when I see it it makes me a little sad. Lol
I’m team fire forever, and now was the same nightmare like the past generation. Fennekin was perfect but grew up biped and ugly..
I loved Popplio3 by far the best starter evo.
Very nice art looks like it’s from DBZ not a pokemon lol
There’s my bastard
YYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
UBs are so ugly, i can’t like them..
they are clearly influential in the story and resemble some characters. one looks an awful lot like Ya Boi Guzma
Quick question, are you able to save by yourself in the demo?
No, but luckily it saves after you do important stuff
Thanks.
I would just like to say I TOLD YOU SO to the people who didn’t believe me when I said I bet we’ll be able to catch UB’s all those months ago. Suck it! Also, Bike, you will be missed.
not gunna lie, this makes me worried about how one of the best water type moves, surf, is going to be distributed.
People in the comments below said fly, surf, and waterfall are TMs.
well I most certainly hope that’s true, those are probably the best hm that are used in battle, but the article doesn’t reflect that.
There’s a TM list below, so I can confirm they are.
neato, I will scroll and see if I can find it. thanks ultron! now go destroy sokovia.
We saw Wishiwashi use surf in previous trailer.
anyone know how to spot Dugtrio in the demo?
From what I’ve seen, there is sometimes a lady at the beach area of Ten Carat Hill that when you talk to her will get you to use the pokefinder to take a picture of the dugtrio. Also you can encounter it in the tall grass there but very rarely. I am yet to see the lady there or encounter dugtrio in the grass, so I can’t confirm it for myself
same. that’s ok I know what it looks like I just wanted to do it myself
YOU CAN SEE IT IN TALL GRASS?!?!?!
I went back to where I saw the video and just now noticed that the guy who uploaded it hacked the dugtrio to show up in the grass. My bad!
Booooo that sucks!!! hahaha
dig replaced by Leech life?!? they had better of buffed that to match giga drains power. and no more power-up punch? that was my favorite move introduced last gen… 🙁 oh well, I’m sure there will be move tutors somewhere.
Lol.
Parental Bond nerf
No Power up Punch TM
Kangaskhan is crying in a corner right now
it was good on more than just kanga… my weavile enjoyed it more than anyone.
True. I quite liked it on my AV Muk
huh I will have to try that set that sounds interesting.
Power up Punch, Shadow Sneak, Gunk Shot or Poison Jab, Ice Punch.
Ability: Poison Touch
If only it got Drain Punch
Yeah I feel like those changes were really just to destroy M Kang lol
THIS IS A BLOODY MISTAKE
DIG WAS ALWAYS TM 28 SINCE RBY AND NOW ITS REPLACED
something tells me it was buffed, and maybe turned special (like water shuriken). because leech life is a garbage move compared to dig if its not buffed.
UGHHHHHHH IS THERE NO STOPPING THE BAD NEWS
that’s about the extent of that bad news. which is honestly not even that bad. least earthquake is still a tm. otherwise this gen is shaping up great.
Wait… leech life is now a TM? That’s morally wrong and disgusting.
Ding Dong HM’s are dead =D I mean I pretty much already knew that with the Pokemon Pager, but I still love hearing it
its awesome!
Inb4 Fossils are National Dex pokemon.
I’m currently trying to see what happens if you successfully capture 20 pokemon in the capture challenge. getting there, only 11 to go.
I’m glad they were smart enough to include Surf, Waterfall, and Fly in the tm list. They’re the most useful out of all the hms and it would have been painful if they took them out. In a way I think they could have helped some of the others out a bit too tho….Strength to be honest isn’t that bad of a move and if they had just changed its typing to but or grass and buffed it a tiny bit Cut could be useful too…….but what’s done is done lol
i love strength….. in wanted to give it to Bewear
bewear would benefit much more from body slam or return.
I think strength is one of the more underrated moves from the hm list. Even in my own head I keep thinking about how I don’t like putting it on Pokemon, but in all honesty it’s a decently strong move and can be quite useful for a normal type attacker
Maybe it learns it by level up
no it won’t don’t be dumb
It’ll probably be back for DP remakes so you’ll be able to teach it to bewear then
Well if it’s no longer a HM or a TM then Level up and Move tutor are the only ways
Nit pick but after Rock Climb was dumped a lot of Gen V Pokémon got it sooo
Maybe an egg move? With older gen pokes being able to pass down HMs
If Charizard is soar, then it’s possible we can still use Fly outside of Battle, I doubt Surf and Waterfall would be though.
Also I remembered what the ultra beasts remind me of, https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f66705f42b768a47803607a5668754bfafd5a03d5cc7c641c31d2eedbad77ec7.png https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/df49860002350f1d171fa9e6fee0a2477a83a9330f1fdfd2e20569ceb048214d.png
Gamexplain already stated that you can not. even if the 3 are in the game as moves they aren’t useful in the over world
I’ve watched their videos and they never explictly stated that you can’t use certain TM’s out of Battle, just that HM’s are gone. TM’s being useable outside of battle isn’t unheard of, specially ones that used to be HM’s. I’d hate to be locked to having to Soar instead of Fly.
Well to be fair we still don’t know for sure if the Charizard Poke ride option is exactly like soar. we still haven’t seen it in action. The only thing we’ve seen is the player taking off. Fro all we know it’s more like fly than soar. lol
In one hand, if fly isn’t available outside of battle then Charizard should be logically used like Fly.
On the other hand, what’s the point of Ride if you don’t actually get to ride it?
Well idk….maybe there’s a quick warp option so you don’t always have to move yourself over to the area to land. A lot of other games have that kind of option in addition to actually doing something similar to soar.
Possible, but with Fly known to be in the game, seems a bit redundant
I suppose. Maybe fly will be that one exception where they let it have its old function.
Crabrawlers Info seems to indicate that Headbutt is useable outside of battle, I know that’s always been a TM, but it was useable Outside of Battle, so letting it have it’s old Function isn’t that farfetched. However, Teleport could be updated to do basically what fly does?
eww god get that trash outta here lol
No, I love Yokai Watch
I was joking people can discuss what they want. I’m not a fan of yokai watch, but I’m not going to stop others from enjoying it
best case scenario : (since the leaker said that not all sprites were included)
Pikipek has a gender dependant final evo, and the one shown is male
Koala has at least one evo
Comfey is standalone but has great base stats
Drampa and/or Turtonator have a preevo
I kind of wish the demo allowed you to battle the npc’s more than once…..I want to battle, but going up against wild Pokemon is kind of boring lol
I’m currently trying to get the best possible score on capture challenge. only 3 to go!
I think you’ll be disappointed lol
I’m not expecting anything honestly. but at least I can officially say that it grants nothing and prevent others from attempting.
It would be better, specially when Ash Greninja requires knocking out a Pokemon to change form.
Right? I’m sure once the other events happen on their given days there will be something to do with Ash Greninja, but now I feel like there’s no way to get the transformation…..lol
The Police at the docks one looks likely, but that’s all the way in November.
Well I must say 100% capture challenge is pretty funny.
Zzzz
I hope this game does more stuff like that, I think that was totally worth it.
What happens?
the guy cheering you on gets bored and falls asleep on the ground, but gets startled awake and assures you he’s been watching the whole time
That’s great!!
So is this the full dex?
Seems to be, though not everyone is convinced
Yeah :/
Actually it is larger if we count in all the Alola forms (+ UBs if they turn out to be Pokémon).
I saw someone post this on Facebook, I don’t know the source but, I don’t think it’s right
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If the Picture doesn’t show,
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I mean for starters, isn’t Marshadows type supposed to be Unique, meaning it has a Dual typing we haven’t seen, if it’s just Dark that isn’t unique. What’s interesting is they gave the bug thing Ice, I’d have given it Psychic, Water or Electric.
Also while I know this isn’t a dealbreaker, if one starter is fairy and one is Dark it’s a bit unfair tbh when the first isn’t a type that counters them. Though Swampert is so weak to Sceptile so.
Also isn’t it off how Lunalas Pre Evo isn’t next to it.
Also do you think the UB’s have types? I mean, They’d have to cause you catch them but, I mean, what types do you think, and do you think some of the ones we’ve seen may be classed as the same one, so say, 2 are classed as UB-04 like UB-02 is.
They’re saying that the spider thing is an ice type??
Yes
I don’t see it. But it’d be a new typing. Rather have it be dark and bug though
it’s apparently a Yeti Crab (like snow monster crab). Sorry, I can’t figure out how to do the grey box….
is that the one you are talking about?
never mind, I see what you’re talking about
No, I think he’s talking about the weird space bug thing that looks like a spider.
either this is a glitch up or a fan made thing but they got Solgaleo and lunala’s typing reversed
i know for a fact they’re Primarily Psychic/Steel and Psychic/Ghost and before start saying it doesn’t matter, i will in fact say it DOES matter
I’m pretty sure it’s speculation
so nobody should believe it as hard
I mean if the Marshadow being a Unique type combo is True then this is 100% speculation.
well nobody official said marshadow was to be unique its all technically 100% rumors
i liked that idea that it has No typing
No one official, but I doubt this leaker got 1 thing wrong when everything else seems to have been more or less spot on so I’m not sure why that wouldn’t be. No type would be odd, and how would that even work. At the same time, it’s odd to know of Marshadow this early if it’s a Mythical, so it might be connected to Type:Null. It was created to fight a Pokemon from Mythology, though most people say that to be Arceus but Arceus doesn’t make as much sense apart from the type thing, but needing a pokemon that could change types would help, basis, not the reason to create it. Perhaps Marshadow is every type.
How does arceus not make sense though? It basically has arceus’s ability and it even has its ring.
I mean in terms of what it was made to fight.
Yes it has inspiration from Arceus, the ability, but I don’t think it was create to fight Arceus, but rather a Pokemon that’s actually in the regional dex. Which leaves the Box Legends, Ultra Beasts, and Mythicals (Magearna and what we assume is Marshadow). Arceus is more of what they based it on, rather than what they created it to fight.
I guess that is possible. Although I’ll admit I’d rather it be to fight arceus. That might also point toward the notion of marshadow having no typing/strange typing or ability
It’s possible that, unlike other Pokemon who need outside help to change type, it could change types on it’s own. Not sure how that would work however, but think of it as it has a different type naturally. That would make it very unique wouldn’t it? It does have a castformesque vibe.
It has to have some other sort of form…it’s too small looking to be the third to their trio
I don’t think it’s related to the Box Legends. It feels more Hoopalike. It’s bound to have another form, of some kind, probably bigger and less cute.
On account for a third legend, the ones we’ve seen are the whole regional Dex, but like D/P there could be a couple of Legends outside the regional Dex, so if there is a third that’s where it is. Though with Zygarde in the regional dex I doubt it. Whats odd is how Lunalas “Pre evo”, isn’t next to it.
T_T ok this is what totally annoys me
it is designed to synthesize the powers of every Pokemon but to say it was meant for Arceus is stretching it’s all the way from the Sinnoh mythos thousands of miles away, it is clearly meant to fight the Ultra Beasts which pose a threat that not even legends might have the power to vanquish if gotten out of control
and that ring doesn’t make it necessarily connected to Arceus, it might be just a nod or totally unintentional i thought it more as a holding pin that keeps the mask on
and before the whole AKS System, yes it sounds like Arceus it stands for RecordKeepingSystem which explains why memories are the item, which store the Type Data which it activates on
It’s not clearly made for UBs at all….I think it’s as much for that as it could be for arceus. Just because it’s a different region doesn’t make the connections any less plausible.
I’d say the ring being a coincidence is extremely unlikely because it’s the exact same design.
RKS sounding like arceus is almost definitely intentional. They could’ve just called it disk system.
you’re nuts, i can’t wait until everything comes out and everything i’ve theorized is much more truer then you
How mature of you…too bad none of what you’ve said has any more credibility than mine. I’d suggest you stop thinking your opinions are better than other people’s. You were already wrong about being able to catch UBs.
I only based that on some of the bosses in the PMD series like the Bittercold and Dark matter which were fightable and not actually pokemon
No type would make great sense, it looks kinda like a shy meaningless spirit, just a mere shadow of this and all worlds, it has no powers no solid type, just meaningless sentience cursed to wander about
kinda sad actually
So then it’s basically a normal type without a fighting weakness. In which case, Ghost/Normal is a possibility.
i prefer Normal/Ghost i had this idea of a tiny white creature who’s shadow is alive and protect’s it body
You’ll hate me for this, but the Sprite we assume is Marshadow, looks exactly how I imagined my Lullabye idea. You don’t like Fairy though. Also if it was Fairy/Dark that would make most legends/mythicals this gen fairy so I don’t think that’s likely anyway.
my Dark/Fairy is a Satyr
I’m actually happy with all this. I’d really like if that alien bug really turns out to be bug/ice.
I said this before but there’s no guarantee this pkmn is really Marshadow.
There is that too, I wish we knew the names
But wat the leaker source?
The source for what?
Of this pic …how can the leaker know the pkmn type while it was scrubbed?
Because it’s some dude speculating
So that just a prediction right?
Yes
Dam I want a guarantee for Fire-Dark and Fighting-ice.
My idea is that it’s Marshadow preevo. I mean Lunala and Solgaleo have one, so third legendary should have one too, right….?
Yeah I was predict that before ……but shouldn’t call it preevo ….Legendary does’t evolve, it will be like core pkmn or some kind of supporter.
If Marshadow isn’t Psychic, then it’s not the third legend, if we even get one
Is there any news on new Alolan versions and their typing?
Nope, though I don’t think this is official, this is speculation if you ask me.
I’d bet you $2 the Golem line is part Dark type, since they gained Snidely Whiplash-esque mustaches a la Rattata.
Mustaches do not equal dark type people. Instead of focusing on the facial hair, why don’t you take a moment to notice the giant magnetic looking machine sticking out of golems back? It’s obviously rock/electric
I admit I wasn’t paying much attention. I just figured Alolan Rattata & Raticate, Meowth & Persian, Grimer & Muk were part of a pattern.
I was Thinking Rock/Steel because of Probopass.
They’ve never really cared about balance that much though, Empoleon gets slaughtered by Infernape and Torterra’s secondary types and having Popplio be Water/Fairy isn’t even that bad seeing as Fairy isn’t super effective on Fire/Dark
Ah yeah, I forgot Fire resisted Fairy, which is a fairly reasonable thing to forget. In which case it’s fine.
Yeah, it’s not exactly a highly advertised resistance and its not very memorable via logic itself
Ummmm actually fairy is super effective against dark, soooo yeahhh…….
(I should know, I ususally have a Silveon on my team. 🙂 It totally annihilates dark types.
Ummm actually Fire-Types resist Fairy so it’s neutral on Fire/Dark-Types
I should know, I literally named myself after the type 🙂
😛 Delightful.
I can see the crab being Fighting/Ice. I hope so, that would be so DOPE!
I hope so, ice seems forgotten this gen 🙁
To quote a legend: Oh myyy. Lol
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lol awesome
https://youtu.be/t-3qncy5Qfk?t=1m13s
HUMP-CATTING
alola heihachi??
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/08/Heihachi-Mishima.png.
AW YEAH!
Finally we know about the starter evos. I can at last be at peace about it.
Also, going on the pictures here: http://heavy.com/games/2016/10/pokemon-sun-moon-demo-datamine-4chan-leaks-images-pictures-new-pokemon-alola-forms-geodude-persian-toucan-final-starter-evolution-confirmations-screenshots/7/
I really like Salandit’s evolution. I think it looks like a smug velociraptor.
Alola geoduck is electric-rock, take a closer look
Gonna guess the types of the leaked Pokémon
-Rowlet3 (Grass/Flying): Heavy emphasis on feathers and wings.
-Litten3 (Fire/Dark): Violent wrestler with dirty moves, and frankly just resembles a Dark-Type.
-Popplio3 (Water/Fairy): Based off mythological creatures including the siren, Popplio learns Disarming Voice.
-Pikipek2 & Pikipek3 (Dark/Flying): Both look noticeably more aggressive compared to the adorable Pikipek, and may take Pikipek’s occasional thievery to a whole new level.
-Crabrawler2 (Fighting/Ice): Is a play on ‘yeti crab’, being a crab that is also a yeti. Could evolve from a pure Fighting-Type in a tropical region via the Ice Stone believed to evolve Alolan Vulpix.
-Spiky Aquatic Creatures 1&2 (Water/Poison): Aquatic? Check. Spiky? Check. Purple and blue? Check. The design just lends itself too well to a Water/Poison. Although it’s a bit shaky and seeing as it appears to just sit at the bottom of the ocean and not swim around I wouldn’t be gobsmacked if it’s Poison, Poison/Rock, Poison/Steel, or Poison/Dark.
-Diving Bell Spiders: Didn’t list a type or two because they have so many options. We’ve had non Bug-Type Arachnids before in Gliscor and Drapion due to other types fitting, so the lack of the commonly guessed Bug wouldn’t be surprising, but it is hella obvious. They look sinister, so Dark is a good candidate, as is Water due to them being Diving Bell Spiders and having Water around their heads. Ice is kind of a wild card due to the snow ball looking thing on the second evo’s legs and Ice’s ties to Water. Also, the ‘helmets’ could be ice with air/water inside? It’s a loose connection for me tbh but others seem more convinced. So in order from most likely to least likely I can see:
1) Bug/Water and Bug/Dark (Bug/Water would be higher if Wimpod didn’t exist)
2) Water/Dark
3) Bug/Ice
4) Dark/Ice
5) Water/Ice
Morelull2 (Grass/Fairy) and Salandit2 (Poison/Fire) : Bundling these two together because I sincerely doubt either one will change type.
-Wimpod2 (Bug/Water): It just kinda turns Wimpod badass so I don’t think a type change would immediately be obvious. However, it does look more land-based and we may have the Diving Bell Spiders as Bug/WATER so a type change to Bug/Fighting (DO YOU EVEN LIFT?), Bug/Dark (Viciousness), Bug/Dragon (It looks cool, seems good enough for GF), or Bug/Poison (Wimpod is mentioned to have toxins).
-Anchor Friend (Steel and either Poison, Ghost or Water): It’s obviously going to be Steel IMO, it’s made of metal. Poison seems farfetched but it looks rusty, and could be represented as kind of a plague amongst Steel-Types similar to organic ailments such as the benign acne to something terminal, which fits quite well with Poison, as well as something being destroyed over time-like Poison and disease does go organic beings. Although that’s mostly wishful thinking. Steel/Ghost seems very likely as nearly every inanimate object based Pokémon is Rock (inanimate objects anyway, but inanimate Rock-Type Pokémon tend to be animalized more than other inanimate Pokémon types), Steel (same reasons as Rock but they tend to be animalized less), Electric (like machines running on electricity), or Ghost/Psychic/Fairy (mysterious forces controlling an intimate object or the object comes to life). However, I’m hoping it isn’t to avoid stepping on Honedge’s territory, but it is a stellar type that has been barely used. Furthermore, one could see rusting as iron dying. And must I explain Water? It’s literally an anchor, and water is a frequency cause of rusting due to chemical processes involved. So in order of how likely each one is:
1) Steel/Ghost
2) Steel/Water
3) Steel/Poison
-The Tapu Guardians
Their bodies highly resemble Tapu Koko’s and they from a quartet so like everyone else, I’m assuming secondary Fairy-Typing. They also match with the colours of Oricorio like Tapu Koko does with Pom Pom Oricorio, and those two match types, sooo:
Tapu ‘Akala’: Psychic/Fairy (backed up by Psychic Terrain)
Tapu ‘Ulaula’: Fire/Fairy
Tapu ‘Poni’: Ghost/Fairy
-The Lesser Legends (Psychic/Ghost and Psychic/Steel): These things turn into Lunala and Solgaleo, so they’re probably at least going to keep Psychic as it’s their ‘evos’ primary type as well as having their own space themes, and I’m guessing they keep the secondary types because Lunala0 looks like an adorable little spirit and Solgaleo0 is literally just a cosmic eye embedded into metal.
-‘Marshadow’ (Various): A reliable leaker said it has a unique typing, and I’m inclined to belive him since it looks like it could anyway. I’m going to guess, in no particular order of likelihood:
~Dark/Fairy: It looks dark and mysterious, and also looks like a little sprite. It’s a unique type too, and seemingly goes with the game’s Fairy Flattery :p
As a bit of interest, Mars (Marsshadow) is kind of literally Earth’s shadow (Marshadow, being behind it (like a literal shadow) and being inferior (no longer holds water and can’t hold life) to it. It also doesn’t provide/sustain/protect life like the Sun, the Moon and the Earth. This typing however, gives it advantages over Lunala, Solgaleo and Zygarde (who seems to be the Earth Guardian). The idea of Mars being inferior to earth also explains why it looks like it’s own diminutive form when Solgaleo, Lunala and Zygarde all have diminutive forms they come from, and may be able to revert to and from.
~Ghost/Normal: It looks like a ghost, whilst also looking quite ‘normal’, too. Also, ‘shadow’ is tied to Ghosts in Pokémon (see: Gengar, Shadow Sneak, Shadow Punch, Shadow Claw Shadow Force, ‘Shadow Ray’). Also, if you support the theories of Marshadow tying into Mars, and then Mars once sustaining life but no longer doing so, Ghost makes a lot of sense. Hell, you could even just call it a ‘ghost planet’ because of how utterly barren it is. Also a never used type.
~Psychic/Poison: Mostly if it turns out to be related to Lunala and Solgaleo, which I doubt at this point unless it gets a form in the next games (either Giratina style, Kyurem style, or Zygarde style). A unique type which would frankly be awesome seeing how mistreated poor Poison is (also finally a Poison legendary). Psychic for space shenanigans, Poison from its name (Mar as in for something to deteriorate or be ruined) or once again the spiel of Mars once holding water and possibly life before becoming the Mars we know and love today.
There’s also Poison/Fairy which is an unused combination made of the already included types, but it’s design doesn’t really scream Poison/Fairy. Wouldn’t be terribly surprising, but I don’t expect it.
Omg the gen 1 fanservice is AMAZING.
Just watching GameXplain’s youtube vid where they chat about playing the first few hours of Sun/Moon, and apparently Lillie and her Pokemon are attacked by a horde of Spearow and your player character protects them with their body!
That’s one of my favourite moments in the Pokemon franchise EVER so I’m delighted they’re referencing it in game. I understand now why this game was called a ‘celebration of everything Pokemon’ by someone who played it.
Genwunners!!! WHY!?
The new Pokeball, is for catching the UB’s. 😀
I can’t help but wonder, when we transfer Greninja to the main game, what will happen to the player character in the demo. He’ll be left Pokemonless.
The OR/AS demo we still had the 3 starters when we transferred Glaile, but this time we don’t have any other pokemon.
Maybe we get the Pikachu Back…
You mean we might have use for that Electrium again? :p
Well we have use for it doing the capture challenge when you find a Pikachu there, but yes. I just don’t see them leaving him Pokemonless in his little unfinished dimension where he is bound to do the same thing every day.
Describing it that way is a serious mindscrew :p
To be fair though, those are all temporary Pikachu :p
But damn, you’ve genuinely got me curious.
Yes
It appears that Greninja will be copied to the game and not transferred?
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Ah, that answers that then.
A moderator need to change under the “NEW Moves” section to say that Surf, Waterfall, and Fly can all be taught via TM.
ECHO ECHo ECho Echo echo ᵉᶜʰᵒ
Maybe this isn’t the entire Pokedex? #hopeful
If it is, I’m okay with this, and my decision with the starters hasn’t been swayed. Rowlett for Moon, Popplio for Sun.
PLUS I’m digging their shinies. SPOILER IMG!!
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e2e38182709224714747a8fe9753938624b8ba14f340a8c0ada272018d407622.png And why do the UBs have shiny sprites?
An Article on Polygon says that a Gamefreak employee came to them and said they were catchable.
I’m sure its been said before but I think Alolan Diglet and Dugtrio are going to be Fire/ground, Mostly because while i was looking over a website i noticed someone brought up Pele’s hair, which is basically Golden looking Fiberglass caused by Volcanic activity, and The rocks beneath it resemble volcanic rocks imo. I could be wrong but we will have to see.
Website wouldn’t hapen to be 4chan would it? lol
Nah. i don’t really frequent 4chan. Rather i found it on Tumblr.
Tumblr probably stole it from 4chan then, they’ve been discussing it for hours.
I don’t really care whether it was stolen from 4chan or tumblr or whatever. From what I’ve seen and heard both places are full of terrible people. That of course doesn’t mean everyone who frequents those places are terrible. just that they have some pretty shitty people who frequent there. All i know is its an idea that makes sense.
Tumblr’s full of terrible people.
4chan is organised chaos that is capable of producing good ideas because nobody takes insults seriously.
If the hair thing is true, Ground/Rock is looking most likely.
I happen to know some Decent people on Tumblr but i can understand. Tumblr can be an incredibly shitty place, with people who steal art, spread miss information, etc. And that Typing makes sense. i feel it might go either way but we won’t know till we see.
So any word on names and types for these new guys yet?
Those were scrubbed from the demo data, chances are we won’t know them until release. At least it gives us something to look forward to in the official reveals :/ .
Right, thoughts time:
I was honestly gonna try and stay unspoiled. But as I had planned, I got someone I trusted (my brother, turned out) to give me the lowdown on pokémon numbers… and just like XY, my massive disappointment meant there was no justification in making efforts to avoid spoilers, as I was only setting myself up to be disappointed once the game came out. Seriously, we only got 73 actual new pokémon, 8 UBS and 18 Alolan forms… A total of 99 overall, LESS than XYs 101 new ones (72+30 megas). I hadn’t realised this until I did this calc either, WHAT THE DAMN HELL. This is an ODD GEN!!!! EURGH…
Anyway, HAHAHAHAHAHA, of those, only 16 pokémon were left to be revealed (not including the amazon leak, or the starter evos), 6 of which were legendaries, and 7 of which were evolutionary relatives of previously revealed pokémon… Leaving 3 completely unexpected normal “wild” pokémon to be discovered. THREE. And only 7 evolutions! Absolutely not worth the hassle of no spoilers. Of the Alolan forms left unrevealed, there was only one new line, wow, amazing, and of course it turned out every single one of the remaining Alolan forms were basically pisstakes. Really satisfying, that. Then we had five new UBs, each of which only comforted my feeling the whole idea was a pure waste of development time and code.
As the direness of the numbers dawned on me, I just decided I may as well make the most of it, so me and my pokégang just got on skype, and the three of us who’d avoided the leaks discovered them together. At least that was fun to do.
But honestly, I feel Game Freak once again completely dropped the ball here. I was truly, dearly looking forward to discovering a whole region of new pokémon on my playthrough for the first time, to feel it was all earned after making efforts to avoid the spoilers. But now, all that’s not going to happen. New pokémon are the heart of each new game to me, I’m really not that bothered about the story (come on, it’s pokémon, not Game of Thrones…) or anything much else in comparison, except maybe the locations. I guess at least now when the games release in the states, I won’t have to avoid them like the plague. wooo….
All those leaks were promising over 100 new pokémon. I was expecting at least a decent (compared to XY) 90 new pokémon (as in not including alolans or UBs)… But no, we get the absolute lowest amount possible… Slow clap.
I love how GF were going on about how Alola is teeming with life and new things to discover. Now, this isn’t in itself contradicted by the number of pokémon we got, but I certainly feel this absolutely sh*tty tally clearly violates the spirit of that ethos. Now yes, I know GF want to slow down the number of pokémon as they get near a thousand. But then, come one now, don’t waste time on crap like UBs, and give us at least as many Alolan forms as XY had new megas, especially if you’re going to make half of them silly jokes. And yes, a lot of the new designs are amazing (there are massive duds too of course), but don’t you give me that “quality v quantity” crap. Gen V stands as a clear counterexample (to me at least, and to many other people too I’d think), and had a similar dud to gold ratio as gens VI and VII. And if they’re gonna give us such a low number of newbies, it’s just shameful to show over 80% of them before release as their advertising strategy does. In no way do they actually need to do that, they could divide the amount of pokémon per reveal by three and still get the same amount of hype, or at least sales…
Lol, I felt like I was being realistic simply by not expecting new megas or evolutions but expecting a decent amount of new pokés. Turns out I was still completely wishfully thinking.
Now, time to look at the actual content I guess:
The unrevealed pokémon are for the most part pretty cool or amazing:
-Didn’t expect the Toucan being Pikkipeks evo, and it would have been nice to get a proper big woodpecker, but honestly I llike this, it makes biological sense and is a pretty fun surprise. I guess it’s weird the toucan looks so much like a real toucan to the point it’s slightly jarring (except it’s eyes, man, what is up with those, I mean I don’t mind them, but dang).
-Salandit’s evo is pretty much as expected and really cool (especially it’s shiny form), though I think I would have preferred a quadruped, I’m more lenient on herptilian bipeds because of the obvious dinosaur vibes, and the feminine look really works on this one
-Morelull’s evo is good in some ways (love the creepy face and salad fingers), bad in others (hat the whole frilly hat thing and the loss of the multiple mushrooms)
-Wimpod’s evo is an absolute BAMF
-Urchin’s evo is neat, very fitting
-Crabrawler’s evo is amazing… I’ve always wanted a yeti crab pokémon, and to have one that’s actively dedicated to faking the existence of the yeti is pretty hilarious. Really hoping it goes ice-fighting (turns out we probably do get an new ice type after al-new dark type too somewhere I’m assuming?). I’m gonna call that it evolves with an ice stone, because it’s base stage goes through quite a drastic change to sudden icy appearance.
-I didn’t see the anchor at first and was gonna complain we had no new item pokémon until I saw it and forgot the sandcastles (yeah I’ve realised I actually like item-based pokémon). It’s really weird and I need to see more to get a proper opinion, but on first glance it looks worse than klefki, and that’s not good. It’s also a bit weird not to have the possessed archeology line we’ve had each gen since gen III this time (baltoy-bronzor-golett-honedge), and this thing would only very vaguely fit even if ghost type.
-The water spiders (which I first thought were viruses, and I maintain that’s probably an inspiration, look at how the base stage resembles a bacteriophage) are hella amazing
-Dissapointed with the guardians, they had some really amazing ones in previous fake leaks and none of these come close.
-Dunno what to think of the Legendary “prevos”, hope they’re forms
-Marshadow is kinda cute, but I’m dissapointed it’s not an awesome huge third legendary. I’m thinking as many others this just might be the chibi form. Wondering if it might not just be our mythical for this gen instead though
-What’s up with event pokémon then? Are they gonna be added through patches? Are they not a thing anymore? Is marshadow one, and one and only? This is one of the key remaining questions IMO.
I’m really dissapointed by the number of unevolving pokémon, it’s way too damn high. I can understand Pykumuku and Komala not evolving (though it would have been cooler for both to have evolutions), they both have pretty self-sufficent designs and work perfectly as pokémon versions of their real-life counterparts-ex: Komala is super cute. I have more trouble understanding Drampa, Turtonator, Oranguru ad Passimian not having prevos, they really had the potential for amazing ones. Minior not evolving into Mighteor is a waste (and the fake leaks had such good desgins for evolutions)… Bruxish could have used a relative as well.
I’m really gutted we didn’t properly get our snowman and dolphin, and I honestly thought the leaker had lied until I saw it pointed out he was referring to the tapu and the yeti crab. I guess those were pretty neat as cryptic hints then, but we still need these two ideas to be made into pokémon (seriously, we have a dolphin-symbol pokémon but no actual dophin??? Also where my cute/cool snowman at?)
I haven’t even covered my biggest frustration with gen VII: NO BLOODY FOSSILS. And don’t you dare tell me that “Alola is a volcanic island” crap, not only has game freak never cared about such things so why should they now, but these place do have at least subfossils IRL, and most importantly, the Alolan pokedex doesn’t just include KOALAS and RED PANDAS, but also fossils from previous generations…
No, this is honestly another one of GF’s typical and inexplicable random and stupid choices.
They denied themselves a whole, still extremely broad pool of ideas.
The fossils are always the pokémon I look forward to the most. SCREW YOU TO HELL, GF.
Now about Alolan forms: when it was first revealed, I really adored the concept, it held such high promise and the first batch was a very promising start… But then from there it only went downhill, to pokémon who were fine or were cool but had wack explanations (I’m looking at you, Marowak’s ghost type), or explanations that were just taking the pisss (Raichu). And then it ends on this batch of complete and utter jokémon. Now don’t get me wrong, I usually find joke pokémon funny, and I like the diglett line’s completely idiotic surfer style (though I’ve seen much better fake alolan digletts). But revealing the concept with Aolan Exggutor and Ninetales, and leaving us only Garfield Persian, surfer diglett and Geodude with facial hair to discover in game is disingenuous and cruel. Plus how the hell could they only be bothered to make 16…Why don’t we have at least the Koffing, Ekans and Machop lines to counterpart grimer, sandshrew and geodude?
Having seen in the gamexplain interview that they said they chose first gen pokémon as they were going to be most recognisable yet most striking as redesigns seems fair to me. But them saying they made them as gifts to long time fans who suck with them since gen I is just insulting and makes me sad. I’m sorry but that’s clearly not what anyone wanted. A real celebratory gift would have been to pick pokémon from each generation. Either GF are, as they often seem to be, completely clueless as to what people actually want, or they didn’t want to admit this was just a ploy to get the attentio of pokémon GO franchise relapsers, and genwunners. In any case it makes them look bad
I never liked UBs when they were first revealed and just immediately got to wishing they never existed, and this new batch of five doesn’t change that opinion in any way, it only strengthens it. Now don’t get me wrong, they’re interesting designs, they just have flip all to do with the aesthetic of the pokémon universe, and badly clash with it IMO. Them being confirmed as catchable only makes it worse. They would have been jarring enough as tough, uncatchable story bosses, but now we have to tolerate their usability in all future generations…
I get they’re supposed to be interdimensional entities and all that, and it’s a cool idea (strangely close, in fact, to the weird “alien type” idea I’d had as a kid for weird pokémon that would look like no others and come from space), but in practice not a single of those designs feels at all at home in a pokémon game to me.
A few more random thoughts about miscellaneous info, the demo, the gamexplain dev interview:
In the interview, they say thet basically added in ash-greninja as fanservice, as they knew fans, and especially, kids, loved it and thus wanted to give them the ability to use it… This is definitely why we have ash pikachu too. Now I wouldn’t be fundamentally agaisnt this in principle, but the seemingly shoddy way in which it’s being implemented annoys me to no end. Rather than give any explanation as to what ash-greninja is supposed to be, or give it any concept oustide of the anime (such as being a mega), they just throw it in, with all the anime strings attached. Well done one making the canon any clearer GF…
The fact they do this kind of fan service (another example of how they often are very aware of what fans think and often moreso than they let on), yet ignore much more sensible fan wishes and keep going with their typical inexplicable attitude, while delivering this sort of thing with so little proper thought is so typical GF, and so revealing of their infuriating half clueless/half careless attitude.
-A funny thing they said in the interview was that they themselves saw Samson oak as an Alola form.
-They also said megas were confined to the postgame.
A few things about the demo:
-So basically it seem your mom is going to stay in the town hall for over a month waiting for the authorities to process that you have moved to alola… Stuck in literal bureaucratic hell. Is this demo attempting to pull of some lowkey Kafkaesque satire?
-I noticed if you battle while using poké ride, you wear ride gear in battle.That’s neat!!
So overall, though I’m quite happy with most of the last few pokémon we discovered (though not with the alolan forms or UBs), I’ve really been let down by the dismal amount of new pokémon. I’m not gonna sugarcoat it, that has ruined gen VII to me to some extent. I’m still gonna massively enjoy the games and discovering what’s in them, but the whole promise of this lush new world full of unknown pokémon to discover just got killed, and there’s no way I’m gonna feel as hyped as I was about these games again.
On a final note (and wow, congrats if you read up to here, or dang, even if you made the effort to scroll, you crazy?), I’d absolutely love it if this weren’t the full pokedex, I really would, more than anything. I would give anything to have fossils, more evos, and more unknown lines to discover. But the fact is, I think the people who believe we’re in for more are just deluding themselves, as people did back when we discovered XY’s pokémon count, and they’re just setting themselves up for dissapointment. I’d rather not do that, I’ve already been hurt enough :'( .
This was all so beautifully said, I have nothing else to comment on
Your post seems mostly like a rant. I am also disappointed by the fact that we are getting over 100 new Pokemon, but I do appreciate the fact that the game devs went through the difficult process of improving the graphics, and creating a new engine for the game. As for there not being new fossil pokemon, that is pretty lame, but not every region needs fossils. Johto was just fine without new fossils. Hopefully the next generation has fossils though. I do wish that we would of gotten more alolan forms, but we can look forward to the Gen 4 remakes and having Sinnoh forms of certain pokemon.
Yeah, I can definitely see that, it is a rant in many ways, but it’s all backed up by thoughts and arguments, so a rant is really only a faithful representation of my opinion.
I’d disagree vehemently that not every region needs fossils, johto may have not had any, but it was essentialy Kanto.5 in may ways, and more importanly we’ve had fossils each gen since gen 3, so there’s no excuse but the usual GF shrug we must imagine they make each time they make a boneheaded decision.
But yeah, hopefully we get Sinnoh forms (which I’d actaully expect to be of Gen V/VI pokémon, which could be really cool.. except they’ll turn 40% of them into jokes at this rate) if we get gen IV remakes this gen, and a few new megas would be nice too.
You know Sinnoh forms are going to be great. I suspect that sinnoh forms will be for pokemon from Unova and Kalos, and potentially Hoen. I hope we don’t see any other Kanto pokemon getting buffs other than the Machop line because they honestly need a little love. I am expecting North and South version of Shellios and Gastrodon as well. I understand that its your opinion back up by fact. I am hoping that they will add 3 fossils in the gen 8 games. They could of made a few fossils for Alola, but they decided to try to follow the history of the Hawaii islands. They could of made a Sabertooth tiger or a Mammoth for the island that has the snowy area or a new water fossil, but I guess they decided against it. Though the Sinnoh remakes will hopefully make up for it. Also there seems to be too many 1 stage pokemon this gen, which makes me believe that they could possible pull a gen 4 in gen 8 by evolving some of this stand alone pokemon.
I’m not confident we’ll get gen IV remakes this gen, patterns can be hard to discern at this point but we’d at least expect them to be on the Switch, which would imply a massive graphical overhaul. If we do, and we do get sinnoh forms, I think it’d be most logical to get Unova and Kalos pokémon only as they don’t involve any retcon, though they could very well add johto or hoenn mons.
I’m honestly sick of the “geological history of alola” argument, there’s many reasons why it’s bullshit, the main ones being that hawaii does have some fossils, and that fossil pokémon for other gens are in the Alola dex. No fossils this gen is just one of those random idiotic GF decisions that make nos sense, and I’m not gonna let them get away with any excuses.
As for gen 8 being like gen IV, that would be amazing but I just don’t believe it can happen judging by the direction GF has been taking in past years. I guess our best hope now for having fewer standalones is that idea that this isn’t the full pokedex, but that seems like wishful thinking to me
That is all very true. If we don’t get sinnoh remakes I think people would be mad. I think we could possibly be getting a game on the switch based off of the region where yungoos and gumshoo come from. I think were pretty likely to get a fossils if thats the case. Switch gives them an opportunity to redeem themselves. I would also like some more steel types. I am just honestly happy that weather wars are nearly over. I am getting a little tired of primal groudon and primal kyorge.
The Pre-evolutions for Solgaleo and Lunala are mostly confirmed to be part of an evolution chain that evolves into the Box legendary, not separate Pokemon. This is supported by the datamine.
Thanks for all these Pokemons!
Don’t forget about Mimikyu and Mimikyu’s rap (; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXIoyRIBjxA
I don’t get why people say the Spider thing is a Bug ice type… it looks nothing like an ice type to me. Is it the light blue orbs on its legs? if i had to be honest it looks more Water or electric then ice. but the electric part or water part of my guesses could be based on similar assumptions as the ice typing for it.