IMPORTANT UPDATE: These have now been CONFIRMED FAKE as the artist has been found! They came out in a Facebook post. It’s unfortunate that these weren’t real… but let’s just hope that Game Freak manages to do even better!
These were posted anonymously, there are some concerns about the Japanese, but mostly pedantic discussion of hiragana vs katakana use. Most likely fake.
Guess we’ll have to wait for more details to see if these are real or not! What are your initial impressions?!













I’ll be choosing water easily
I dunno about y’all but the 4Chan thread is calling it fake, knowing their track record shit’s probably real.
Anyone remember Gen 5?
I know this is a dumb reason to think they’re fake, but I don’t think they initial poses for the starters would have one of them in an action pose. All previous starters have them in more or less static poses and only in 3rd versions and remakes do they get art that has them doing some kind of action. Just saying……
The bunny is cute af and the platypus is cool I suppose (just not vibing for some reason). I’ll probably pick the lemur.
funny enough my problem with the platypus is the opposite problem i have with a lot of pokemon designs in the last few generations. so many of them are really zany and funky-looking, but this guy almost looks *too* normal, too far in the other direction. it’s just a cartoon platypus, only blue.
it’s not a major complaint, i still love it, i just don’t love it as much as the other two.
Gikie!!! Your back!! (Wow it really is the return night lol) how are you doing?!
I’m doing pretty well! This is going to be a good year. Things are finally falling into place with my life. How about you?
Life is good. A few bumps in the road, but nothing majority bad
Keep your head up. Things will eventually pan it. May be soon may be later but it will in one way or another.
Thanks man, I will keep my head up
Guys I’ve converted!
nope
if i had to pick……….maybe the Lemur….hopefully it ends up tough, that’s the only driving force behind my decisions when it comes to starters
Charizard
Feraligatr
Swampert
Torterra/Infernape
Emboar <3
Chesnaught
Incineroar
wow, we have similar taste
wow…you might wanna kill yourself to save you the shame
Your taste is good till gen 5
no crap those are the easy like-ables
only i can truly appreciate Emboar, Chesnaught and Incineroar
I appreciate all three of them
Like I do like Samurott over Emboar, but not by much
Chesnaught is the only starter I like throughout Gen.6 (Delphox is meh and I hate Frogadeir with a passion)
And Incineroar is tied with the other two, but it like Chesnaught is the only one I like the whole line for (not a fan of Brionne and like Frogadeir I hate Dartrix)
I appreciate all of them. In the dumpster
Emboar is a hard like, i love pigs so this is easy
Chesnaught i don’t understand why so much hate, it’s freaking cool looking with the massive shell and club arms and i like the nut helmet
Incineroar a soft hard like but still cool in my book
Most hate Chesnaught because they don’t like the bulkier Quiladin and because most people praise the ground Greninja and Braixen walk on
one thing that i wish i could change about Quilladin is to add tiny spikes on his armor, they classify them as the spiny armor yet it at most has three/four spines (technically that nose)
but i think it’s adorable in its own way
https://t00.deviantart.net/Wfa-5iYIlbOY9n7PRsDdZkrQEkw=/300×200/filters:fixed_height(100,100):origin()/pre00/ca87/th/pre/f/2013/256/b/7/quilladin_by_girgrunny-d6lzjol.png
Out of those I like Chesnaught
https://pre00.deviantart.net/d669/th/pre/i/2013/282/7/2/chesnaught___chespin_final_evolution_by_keinhangia-d6psxas.jpg
We have similar ones
Charizard
Mostly mixed, but Feraligatr
Sceptile (Swampert is close, but no Blaziken)
Mixed, but only Torterra slightly
Samurott
Chesnaught
Mixed, but Incineroar for having most likable throughout
aw wow, i love all three of them. the last supposed leak was alright, but this time i’m actually hoping it’s legit.
also hoping they grow up to look just as good as they are now, particularly the lemur
Well got some new shoes tonight! Last pair too lol https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ef4d1900e65107c5c41c2469e6c026f6b0c5212daa3d7c756ddf986942fc78de.jpg
Well i got nothing…..going to bed….
later haters
Regardless of the authenticity of these leaks, we DO need a platypus Pokémon
i’m down for that but just don’t overdo the dang poison barb thing, yeah we get it its a freak of nature, it lays eggs, electroreception venomous barb on the elbow something about lunchables
But one that’s not ugly as sh!t like that one
Perry
Psychic fighting type
The secret agent pokemon
What about some kinda weird composit one?
I see a platypus with a very small body (like exactly the size of a Skitty’s) but its bill and buckflapper are very large and wide and the exact same size and shape it’s weird but interesting
Sounds like it would be a really ugly pokemon
It’s a platypus, god clearly gave up on it
eeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwww
Just a thought, it’s better than some run of the mill chibi pollywog
its not tho…. A beak that large would be just gross
Bill….it’s a bill, but like I said it was just a different perspective and I might even draw it to see how it looks
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/039f0f4d10144db78fa978acb4a71697dfa529cf773116ca6ff0c8089695a268.jpg Small tidbit about my fangame
Rumor VA.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1543bfa304731357d1ab8b5a59e4cefdf2e516ca0f04bffac32260c50052259b.jpg
VOICE ACTORS???!?!?!?
Same actors were rumored for the last fake starters
Yo Ryuku, can you be a FUCKING platypus? Kay thanx
Correction
Best Platypus
Don’t lose your way
What starter would you choose?
*sees Yukiko*
Ooh
Oh, Ryuko’s there too, didn’t see her
Yeah.. this is really too
Please can someone tell me
WHY ARE JAPANESE OP’s so catchy???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkZvPLMydAQ
Well I am seeing black panther Thursday! Excited and can’t wait to see it!
Enjoy 🙂
Thanks! Have you seen it yet?
Yeah, I thought it was really good.
How many end credits scenes are there? Want to know how long to stay after the movie lol
It’s really good. Top 5 Marvel movies for me, though it’s getting hard to rank them at this point. Win after win
How many end credits scenes are there?
There’s 2, one at the very end.
Thanks ignore my last comment lol
Faaaake. No. I Don’t like when stuff like this… So Obviously fake is posted. I draw the line at fake art
What
The thing is, we don’t know if it’s fake yet
IT IS
Calm down lol we don’t know for sure yet if It’s real or not and won’t know until someone comes out admitting to faking them or otherwise. Better to not take a stance on it until we know for sure.
I feel like I’m going crazy. Are we never going to freaking learn? Every single leak ever we have seen the past couple months has had some reason it COULD be real and they NEVER ARE.
I just hope GF reveals something soon so the leaks stop
Zeraora. The pokemon we don’t know about 😉
Dude, the leaks don’t stop. Even after the game releases there will be “leaks”
I know that but there will be leaks on something besides the starters and we have something that we know is real
*stage whispers* We already have something *overly obvious wink*
WINK WINK
See, I don’t share the opinion that the previous leaks were as believable. Some of them have interesting ideas or thoughts, but nothing that pointed to as much legitimacy as these do.
WHAT IS LEGIT ABOUT THESE???
The sugimori art style isn’t hard to emulate. We see people do it all the time. The single thing this one has over everything else is that the Japanese is correct like… so??
That’s what sank the other set of starters. I’m sure the faker figured out that you need proper grammar
WHAT WAS LEGIT ABOUT THE ALOLAN STARTER LEAKS? JEEZ CALM DOWN
THE FACT THEY HAD A CHINESE LEAKER BACKING THEM UP THAT WAS CREDIBLE AND THAT THEY WERENT FOLLOWING ANOTHER CONCEPT ART LEAK THAT EVERYONE LOST THEIR MINDS OVER
THOSE WERE DIFFRENT! THEY HAD PROBLEMS THAT WERE OVERLOOKED. UGHHH THEY NEED TO EITHER REVEAL THE STARTERS OR THE ARTIST NEEDS TO COME OUT BECAUSE THIS HATE TOWARDS OTHERS IS RIDICULOUS!!
Sorry if I offended anyone
It’s not the language and it’s not something that is easily singled out. It’s a combination of the art style, the level of quality that went in to the designs themselves, the style of reference poses, the use of uncolored background pieces. It’s an overall collection of elements that feels exactly like previous, proven reference sheets. It’s a level of time and effort that fakers simply don’t put in to their fakes.
Japanese is a hard language, just saying.
It’s not like ‘oh right gotta have proper grammar’ because Japanese as a language is different from English.
So that’s why it has points for me, for having Japanese that makes sense and not something from like google translate or something
I see and understand your point, but there’s also nothing saying that whoever drew these needed to write the Japanese descriptions. They could have gotten help from a friend or something, or a friend of a friend, who speaks fluent Japanese.
I understand that too, hence why I said it has points for me, and I’m not saying it’s real.
They could just be Japanese.
It’s not that big of a deal lol you need to calm down and realize it really isn’t that big of a deal. If people want to believe they are possibly real let them. No use getting pissed off over it. I am a wait and see person because honestly you never know. Anything can happen
No that’s fuckin stupid. It’s so frustrating to watch everyone be convinced a leak is real for literally no reason.
Every week there is some new thing everyone just believes.
Before you bring up the gen 7 ones, they wouldn’t let the same thing happen again and those were part of a larger leak that gave them credibility
These have nothing but everyone just eats it up
Whatever star just get over it. Everyone has a different opinion and just because you don’t agree with it doesn’t make it fuckin stupid as you put it. Let other people think what they want and live your own life
So you’d rather just ignore the fact that this clearly has zero credibility and continue believing something that is obviously not true.
Sure ok I mean people are pretty good at doing that already
Yep if that’s how you want to put it go ahead lol whatever helps you sleep at night I guess
Not a life I wanna live where I just ignore facts and never think deeper about things
And You can live your life that way lol at same time you can’t get mad at people living their life the way they want to live it. It just doesn’t work that way.
Nah I can because it’s frustrating seeing people acting in ways that clearly make no sense
Whatever star. I am not saying anything else because I am convinced I would be better off banging my head against a brick wall at this point lol you have a nice night/day whatever time it is where you live
What facts are there for being fake tho? You just say it’s fake. I’d like to think deeper on it but you are not providing anything.
“They wouldn’t let the same thing happen again” but didn’t they allow the USUM demos be data mined just like the SM and ORAS (I believe) ones? I wouldn’t be surprised if these were leaked to build hype for the upcoming games
You know what would build hype for upcoming games?
A trailer
Of course a trailer would build hype but TBH rumors make waiting for a trailer easier. Its your own (not yours specifically) issue if you believe that the rumors are to be true and then become disappointed when they aren’t. For all we know Nintendo might make a Direct soon discussing the upcoming Pokémon game and they might reveal the starters. Possible leaks always lead to a trailer. Look at KH3 and how there were images of the Monsters Inc. world before it was even confirmed and they were written off as fake images because of how blurry and out of focus it looked. Lord and behold there’s a Monsters Inc world. Its just a matter of waiting for confirmation and until then these pokemon may be real or they may not be
What’s so special about them? They were released Literally right after a leaker described them.. and they outline for real leaks is already online. Y go alone believing some bs anyone can create nowadays. Besides.. Pokesirena says she believes they are fake herself.. they didn’t even use the proper wording between the pics according to her
Like I already said to star I believe in waiting until we have more info. That said thanks for actually talking to me in a calm manner you get an upvote for that
IT IS NOT *ignoring Josh’s rational response*
I just got called rational…..there’s a first time for everything 🤣
AGREED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyh0zqBSHEo&t=0s
I predict the next rumor will be of an early game mon and everybody will flip out.
Predict*
I want a humming bird Pokémon…..would bring back memories of watching them at my grandparents as a kid!
My money is on eeveelutions next. Bug type please. Please? Pleeeeheeeheeeeease? *cries a little*
I needs to be called scorpeon
I’ve seen some pretty sweet wasp inspired ideas of a bug eevee, as well.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2b59aae00e2c5e58358e0b7cf12eaae7b8e70c5a9d068192f94498b17547b2f6.png
What would angry gay noises even sound like?
Really frowny lisps?
What I have sounded like all day
Grrrrrrrrrr
Every time I come here and see those pictures again, I remain convinced that they’re real. My brain just can’t come to any other conclusion for some reason. I’m totally open to someone coming out and claiming them for publicity or whatever, but I feel the fact it hasn’t happened yet speaks volumes.
Damn it Xatu I can’t even rely on you
But Star, you have to…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEXQkrllGbA
Woah, this leak is ripping people apart just like the starter leaks
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/bb6382c1811585bf17afe3343e5206eac8df1e22390ce81baab66254bb70412d.gif
Someone recaption this to say ‘leaks’ instead of ‘Lisa.’ I think it will find infinite usefulness.
Yes
I’m telling you, it’s the final Alola starter forms all over again. I’m convinced.
Agreed 💯 % unlike the last few all of these feel like gamefreaks creations
https://media.giphy.com/media/3o7bu5EmEyJr15fTK8/giphy.gif
Nah, they’re fake. The whole rabbit zodiac thing is the nail in the coffin
???
???
???
That pattern just doesn’t work for me. And even if they are doing it, clearly they weren’t planning on it till at least gen 3, seeing as Cyndaquil is not a rat. And at that point, why even make it a pattern if it doesn’t work all the way?
huh?
That is not a valid reason for it being fake and you know it.
It’s just so.. expected. If, when the gen 8 starters are officially revealed, it’s *unmistakably* a zodiac animal then I will believe this supposed pattern
I see where you’re coming from but there really are only a limited number of animals they could go with anyway. Maybe they are basing their choices off of the Zodiac but it’s likely because they would end up choosing one of those animals at some point regardless. A fire bunny rabbit starter shouldn’t really surprise anyone.
Idk I feel like they could do a lot of things. I’ll give it this, the drawings are very well done. The platypus though is kinda lame though.
I’ve heard people say that all three of them are lame for whatever personal reason. Some people love the monkey but hate the platypus, some people love the platypus but hate the rabbit, etc. Now THAT is one of the most convincing aspects of this leak to me.
True. There’s never really a batch of starters where are the main ones are good… Usually. Gen 1 has good base starters
Oh?
What, are you an egg hatching?
Nah, I sr now
Gen 4 say hello?
(And also Gen 7 but I’m one of those weirdos)
I mean, subjectively, yeah, I think they’re all adorable! But I’ve seen some people dislike Turtwig..the least divisive I’ve seen among fans is the kanto 1 stage starters. Don’t really hear much complaints about them cuties
I will agree on that, even though I don’t care for Bulbasaur. Still like it but ehhhhh
Honestly all first stage starters are adorable to me in some way or another.
https://twitter.com/pokejungle/status/966162731563761664 Opinions?
Nothing we didn’t already know
Would be so happy if these end up real! Just have to wait and see what happens!
Notice how this couldn’t be said for the other “leaks”.
Other leaks like
The gen 7 starters
Only the fakes ones have crappy Japanese, unless those starter leaks also had some mistakes (which I seem to remember…)
The final evo ones did
That in itself is a bit strange, I never really thought about it. I’m not sure if perfect Japanese actually helps or hinders this leak now.
Either way it’s still a low bar
Yes…YES!!
I really don’t think these are real, but I certainly wouldn’t mind being wrong. :’)
That’s good, ’cause you are.
😀
Good to see some positivity in the sea of hate
Yeah
Hate
That’s what it is
-.-
Without actually providing evidence, it can be seen as hate, so yeah.
Are you fucking kidding me.
Yes, because you’re just screaming fake at this point without actually saying why or how. That’s why people think it’s negativity.
…
Yes I have
This entire time…
Over and over…
Also why the sudden need for evidence anyways
When? I’ve never seen it personally, so I’d like to see.
And it’s not sudden, I’ve been asking for your points the whole day I’eve been here.
If you’re gonna claim something, you need proof. Both for real or fake.
That’s just who I am. I need facts to back statements.
Fine even though I have repeated it over and over I’ll say it again
– The last big leaks were starter concept art leaks that came out MONTHS before even the mid evos. They would NOT let that happen again especially when the images are such high quality.
– Everyone wants to make fake leaks like those now. There are so many concept art leaks. They’re just like Coro Coro scans from back in the day but easier to make because you don’t have to make it look like the worst designed, most eye bleeding magazine in existence. Just draw them in a few poses and add some Japanese text.
– There is no credible leaker backing this up with more information like the Chinese leaker with SuMo.
– The only evidence supporting this is real is the Japanese text. While yes it’s a difficult language, that’s an extremely low bar isn’t it?
– The sugimori style isn’t that hard to emulate. Take two seconds to look online.
I say why the sudden need for evidence because everyone just accepts that these are real without anything to really back it up. But then I’m hateful because I’m the only one not just agreeing with everyone because I want it to be real.
And yeah like I would love these. The bunny would be top 3 starters for sure but you gotta look at facts.
Thank you, I haven’t gotten anything like this since I was here, maybe you said most of this earlier before i got here, but I missed it so I was honestly confused.
And I’ve always been for evidence regardless of other people. I don’t accept it willy-nilly, heck I;m STILL NEUTRAL about it because it’s an isolated thing and the art style being so easy to copy. And personally, my opinions are not for anyone else, they are for me.
I gave it points for Japanese, but you’re right, friends can help out or they are fluent, but some part of me feels that’s off. I don’t think it’s a low bar at all because that’s an impressive feat for an artist to have but whatever.
You’re free to say your opinion, I just think the way you went about it rubbed people the wrong way. That’s probably why it was seen as negative. No hate on you just the way you went about it.
OOOOOO! See Star admits it. *dramatic gasp* I am shocked and scandalized.
I’m in an unusually silly mood, so….
I don’t really see it as hate. But in terms of pokemon “leaks” I kinda think everything should be considered fake *until* credible evidence comes along. The Alolan final starters had credible evidence because they featured Mallow, who then was revealed later. There’s nothing to go off of with these so I think a lot of people are getting their hopes up for no reason other than “good Japanese, good art.”
Hate to say it, but I’m sure there are native-to-Japan pokemon fans who are good artists
I think considering everything fake until it is officially revealed just dissuades speculative discussion, which is what Pokejungle posts these rumors for. And you say that Mallow’s presence was credible evidence, but not everyone has the same lines of credibility as you. I remember people screaming “Fake! Everyone who believes them is stupid!” all the way up to their official reveal when they suddenly about-faced and always knew they had been real (not on here, mind you, I wasn’t involved with PJ discussions then).
It’s perfectly acceptable to believe they’re fake, but insulting other people just because they don’t share your opinion is not. (Not talking about you here, Ultron, simply past experience)
I’d rather discuss leaks that actually have validity of some sort. We won’t have that until the game is announced.
See, different lines of credibility. I don’t believe the games being announced makes a leak of information any more credible that it would be before the announcement.
They would be more credible because we have some standard to judge them by. We will actually have information that we can use to judge how true a leak is
Well people who thought they were fake even when mallow was revealed are simply dumb, to be quite frank lol.
I’m not trying to stifle discussion at all. I love rumors and pokemon “leaks,” but I don’t think they should be taken too seriously at this point. We don’t even have titles or a released date (or zeraora) so it’s just unlikely to me something like this would leak in such high quality. But we’ll see, I’m not dismissing them as impossible*, but I’m not saying they’re any more credible than most of the things we see
It’s the fact that people are getting
WAY to mad about the whole thing
The only thing I’m legit mad about is that if these are real, the platypus is lame
Here’s hoping!
I don’t really care, tbh
Meh doesn’t change anything. Just means who ever made them knows how to write in Japanese. Doesn’t mean they’re real
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/353498e9131e1d7043b1a35998dca5be091f9edcd62b529469f0467df5e0d3d5.gif
Welcome to my least favorites list, Lucario. Enjoy your stay
We’re not friends anymore (I’m kidding, don’t take this seriously)
WEL P
Why?
Pokken
That is all
.. it’s okay….
That’s all I have to say
I think everything is getting lost in translation
There’s no issue with thinking these are real or fake.
The issue is that people are jumping on the ship that it’s one or the other way too fast. It’s fine to be hyped and hope that these “leaks” are real, but don’t count on it. Be ready to accept either outcome.
I know not everyone is doing it but the fact that some people are firmly believing that these leaks are 100% real or fake is what the cause of this “hate”.
We’re all a family here, lets not let Weed King Julien, a lit easter bunny , and perry the platypus tear us apart, kay?
Omg those names tho XD
Also agreed 100% it seems as if the two sides are at each others throats
I am not! *at least that’s what it sounds like, hard to tell with a throat between his teeth*
Agreed 100 percent. I am staying on the fence right now. If these end up real I will be so excited! If not oh well crap happens but if the artists would definitely deserves mayjor props for them. And them names though 😂
Pokesirena even thinks they are fake because of… Facts. Y should we get out hopes up whenever some artist has too much time on their hands? So no. It’s perfectly fine to pick sides. Can’t be doing this all day everyday
These starters are
Peter Rabbit
Gr8 Ape
Perry the platypus
Screencap this
I still prefer Zoboomofruit (which I absolutely spelled correctly earlier so don’t go look) >.>
Omg someone else remembers zoboomafoo! And if it’s real I may need to steal that name 👀
Ok but… Y did no one tell me Boruto is So Good! 😍
He kind of reminds me of… me.. when I was in school. Except being well known Doesn’t equal popular 😅
I only felt some of the action sequences were a little silly at the start.. too unrealistic.. even for an anime
You mean Boruto’s dad’s son?
So…. Boruto? yes Boruto
It’s a meme
I dunno et… I just started watching.. :3
You know, it reminds me…
We should get a series for Boruto’s dad sometime.
Ughhhhhh I lost my lucky chest hair (again…) it’ll be months until he comes back ;_;
I love how there’s all this debate
and than this comment
Earthen, if you feel the need to publicly state that you’re going to bed then either do it or don’t waste energy typing it out.
Oh so you don’t know what he means by that
https://media.tenor.com/images/d56e0e59d0905e28339a11a3f655e650/tenor.gif
And the award for the most appropriate GIF of the day goes to…
Bless you Earthen
Even if this is the weirdest fucking thing I’ve read today
Yooooour welcome
Yooooou’re*
Bite me
*clacks his teeth together threateningly*
You don’t got the guts or the constitution to bite all this
USe bug bite on him!
*checks his character sheet* Oh, you’re right. I dumped it all into Charisma *rolls Bluff check*
I did strength and stamina baby! I can go all. Night. Long.
Well okay then 😂
RIP Earthens lucky chest hair. Never forget
IN THE ARMS OF AN ANGEL
FLY AWAY WITH ME
No don’t bring up that song!!!! It brings up the sad animals commercial to my mind D:
It’s okay, it’ll be over soon 🙂
Somewhere….there’s a abnormally long hair floating on a breeze with soothing inspirational music in the background, Flying over important landmarks until finally landing in somebody’s food or drink looking disgusted
Eww…
That’s….not what I had in mind when I thought of the song, but sure, we’ll go with that.
I am laughing way too much at the thought of this lol would prefer it land in my ex’s food 😀 is that bad? 👀
Depends on the ex.
Well considering she cheated on me with my friend yeah I say it’s justified 👀
Ooooo yes, totally. Go wild. Just not TOO wild.
Will try to stay somewhat tamed lol
I’d encourage it
Then I will continue laughing at that thought lol
https://youtu.be/5XTBCbdT5M0
I remember that scene lol
(Titanic song plays in the background)
I totally think Arms of an Angel fits better, but that’s cause it’s my go-to for making a sad moment hilarious
In all seriousness I am legitimately upset to notice it was gone
All life goes on. It’s the circle of life after all.
Yeah but he’ll be back in a couple of months, he always grows in
I wonder if that part of my chest has abnormally high keratin
*Salutes*
21 gun salute
Ummmmm…tmi?
NEW LEAK FOR THE GEN9 MYTHICAL
THE LUCKY CHEST HAIR!!
DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYS
There’s no such thing as too much information