Ice isn’t just an elemental type to deal with in Pokémon, it can be a headache of sliding and slipping around in the overworld for trainers as well. The series didn’t always include ice on the ground though—it was first introduced to the series in Generation II games Pokémon Gold & Silver.
Evolution of Ice
When players first encountered ice in Pokémon games it wasn’t quite as, well, visually appealing as it became in later titles. In fact the Ice Path, where players had to navigate a tunnel with both rocks and frozen sheets of ice, didn’t look that different from many other cavernous areas. ‘Ice’ just looked like parts of the ground that were smooth and had diagonal lines.
This was ultimately rectified in the follow-up to Gold & Silver, Pokémon Crystal, which had a much more distinct look and really sold the icy feel of the route. It was much more immersive and looked like a place that Swinub and Delibird would actually reside in. It set the tone for how Game Freak wanted to portray colder zones in the future and let Ice-type fans have their own spot in the Pokémon world to call their own.
Not limited to routes, it was also used as a puzzle mechanic when challenging several gyms throughout the series. Challenging the Mahogany Gym in Johto, Snowpoint Gym in Sinnoh or Icirrus Gym in Unova (pictured above) all required players to slide their way through the gym and find the correct route to the Gym Leader at the end. Oddly enough though, Kalos’ Snowbelle Gym lacked a sliding puzzle; it remains the only Ice-type gym not to feature one.
Where there’s Ice, there’s Snow
Not content with keeping Ice-type Pokémon constrained in cold caves, Game Freak eventually added snow to their arsenal of route designs and several regions benefited from the change of scenery. First introduced in Generation IV’s Pokémon Diamond & Pearl, snow-covered routes forced Trainers to dismount their bikes and trudge through by foot. They also featured random encounters anywhere there was snow, similar to walking in caves or surfing over water. This meant repels were needed if you weren’t grinding experience or searching for Pokémon when you wanted to move unhindered.
In Pokémon X & Y the ante was upped further—players were now forced to get through the snow by riding a Mamoswine around! It was an interesting use of the new Pokémon riding mechanic introduced in Generation VI, but certainly slowed down exploration a bit. Plenty of dismounting and remounting the patient Mamoswine meant that adventurers weren’t going to finish exploring the route in a hurry. There’s also an entire city covered with snow, Snowbelle City!
Finally, players of the latest games, Pokémon Ultra Sun & Ultra Moon, may not be able to slide around on any ice puzzles, but they can see a bit of snow and some ice crystals when they climb up Mount Lanakila on the otherwise tropical island!
Fun world-building or unnecessary hindrance?
In the end there’ll probably be two camps of people: those that love ice and snow routes, and those that don’t. Even if you’re in the latter camp, I hope you’ve been able to see the love put in by the designers and how gameplay has evolved throughout the Pokémon series in regards to chilly climates and the many places Trainers now have to explore. As a kid I always loved sliding around and trying to figure out the puzzle on my own… although many times I’d just lose patience and consult the internet.










I wish gamefreak was more creative with ice type. Really just tired of the “slide around the ice” puzzles they always include somewhere. Luckily we haven’t seen one since X&Y, but they’ll be back..I honestly love the routes to snowbelle city, they have great music and are unique. Though, like with the swampy areas in Sinnoh, getting stuck in the snow can be pretty annoying.
I will say Unova did a nice job with ice and snow with the amazing inclusion of seasons :3 that needs to come back…kalos really suffered from having random routes go from fall to snow. You enter one builing in fall and come out the 10 feet away on the other side in winter..
Kalos is really The 4 seasons Hotel…
It’s ridiculous…no region is like that
I really like Ice-types but the ice places are kinda boring and annoying :/
The only Ice type place that holds any deeper significance is the lowest part of Shoal caves
When I was a brain dead kid I tried my luck everyday for the Ice part to be accessible (I cling to my RS prima strategy guide but I just wasn’t a smart kid growing up) but very few luck it was only a year later I learnt it was a time based event and my internal battery dried out
I almost cried when I learned I could never catch Snorunt because of that
Though it taught me that I love Walrein
I dislike Ice Puzzles, I like the idea but I’m not good at them and end up frustrated. I liked that we could ride on Mamoswine but the feature was a bit clunky, same with Rhyhorn one the other route. I always enjoy the beauty and effort of ice routes, though I’m not such a fan of forced hail every battle on some of them. I think Lanakila is largely a waste of an ice route, though I have yet to visit it in USUM. I think Ice routes are a good addition, Unova did well with seasonal Winter Ice routes, I just like them to have fun elements rather than being a pain to trudge through. If Gen 8 doesn’t have one I will be annoyed.
I hope they bring back seasons honestly, that was such a neat feature and they can do so much with it.
It really was, I enjoyed all the differences, made going back to previous areas seem more exciting.
That’s one thing about the 3DS generations that I really didn’t like: the puzzles were basically nonexistent. The ones that are present are laughable. I always liked pushing around the ice blocks for some reason, and it just felt like Pokémon to me. For Gen 8, I’d love for them to bring back some challenging overworld elements and stop doubting the intelligence of the player.
Am I unintelligent because I struggle with the Ice puzzles https://media.giphy.com/media/hppWdK8gcmzXq/giphy.gif ?
I think it’s good if you struggle because at least the game forces you to think. I haven’t had to really put that much focus into anything in Pokémon until USUM’s occasional tough battle (because I chose not to use Z-Moves and all of that nonsense).
It’s not even that I have to think that much with them, I just end up mis-clicking all the time and then having to start again. I tend not to use Z-moves, partly because they take so long.
Y’know what would be cool, an Ice village, maybe based on the Inuit, where there are roaming Swinub and Piloswine that are used to find hot springs as an actual mini-game, or just like Tauros and Miltank on ranches. I think there is alot of room for new forms of Ice related areas. Ice fishing could be good, under ice diving maybe, igloos would be nice.
I love snow and Ice routes. Experience all the beauty of the snow and ice without having to be actually cold. I wish they did more with them though. It’s almost always one or two places post game. I like how in Sinnoh the whole route to snowpoint was all snow. It felt like it fit. Rather than something like the place in Kalos where it was sunny one routeand snow in the next with no logical sense. I also wish they made ice a little more early game. I dont see why it’s so late game all the time.
But I do believe all the ice areas in pokemon were amazing. Icy cave, and Shoal Cave were probably the worst because it felt so random to just have a snow cave out of nowhere. I personally like Ice puzzles, and I dont see how they could change it.
Though the pokemon may not be the best, the terrain of snow/Ice is just amazing. Can’t wait to see 216 on Switch graphics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8cLW0Lckhc
Sinnoh NAILED the theme. Perfectly fits the Ice.
I will always love hoenn and sinnoh the most! Hoenn being my first region I explored and sinnoh being the first time I really knew what I was sort of doing! I seriously am excited for the eventual sinnoh remakes! Probably won’t happen until like 2020 but still!
Finally the US and maybe Europe gets something before Japan does
https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/tldr/2017/12/18/16791778/giant-pikachu-tail-pillow-eevee-pokemon-store
Oh I thought it was some sort of new game….turns out it’s just a stupid pillow.
Fangame areas going up later
How dare you forget sea foam islands
What gen are they from? Gen 4? 2? 3? 6? 5? 1? 7?
red blue green yellow Fire Red Leaf Green
And I think gen 2 not sure if they removed it
Ah ok.
HGSS as well
God I love Ice path in HGSS, the music, the ambience, the puzzles, the art and mapping. Everything :0
They definitely ranked it up from GS and even Crystal.
On the subject of cold snowy frictionless levels in gaming I want to compile my top 5 favorite/memorable Ice themed worlds in gaming (that I’ve played)
5: Dun Morogh (World of Warcraft) as a Dwarf I started my journey in the chilly mountains of Dun Morogh, Fighting Troggs and Ice Trolls and making my way to the great Dwarven city of Ironforge
4: Snowhead Temple (Twilight Princess) the experience was different a mix of treacherous snow topped cliffs, a loving yeti couple and finding a wheel of cheese,
3: Sherbert Land (Mario Kart 64) let’s face it anyone who grew up with an N64 and played the famous racing game have either cursed their mouth off bumping into penguin or missing the right turn in the caves or fallen in the water and was frozen solid
2: Cool Cool Mountain (Super Mario 64) the pure nostalgia of racing down a Icy slide, trying to find the sweet spot for the cannon and delivering lost penguin babies (who I occasionally threw off a cliff for fun once or twelve times)
1: Hailfire Peaks Icy Side (Banjo Tooie) without a doubt one of the levels I spent the most time in by choice, the music the landscape and learning the very use Glide ability, I almost put down Freezeezy Peak but I just liked Hailfire Peaks so much more
Snowpeak Ruins*
Shut up
Seaward Cave is Cold(at least in Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon)
Yep, Smoochum is there now so I think it counts.
So is Seel, they say Seel can only live in cold waters according to USUM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=PL_t2W3P84t9bfLe3EQUwjf_YDRHHi2xjq&v=Ln1pzz9l5p0
I was reading Bulbapedia for Fun and Realized how Weird it is that the Good Rod is in Fuchsia but the Super Rod is on Route 13, ONE OF THE TWO POTENTIAL ROUTES TO FUCHSIA.
I think I often got the super rod first, then when I got the good rod I was like “well that’s nice I guess”.
Phoenix Grace- The first time the user is knocked out by an attack, its health is restored to half. However, it is forced to switch with another teammate.
Climatic- It will change form to match the weather.
Temperate- Immune to ice and fire attacks
Frostbite- If a foe is frozen, all moves used by this Pokémon will be critical hits.
Aurora Winds- The Aurora veil status is set up whenever this Pokémon enters battle
Love that first ability
😀
The second is a rename of forecast right?
Don’t spoil the secret ;3
Temperate is just a strictly better Thick Fat.
yee
Idea: Steel Type Thermostat Pokemon
Maybe it’s either Fire or Ice too depending on the weather?
Thats the Idea 🙂
also maybe if it holds a corresponding item/uses a move of that type
Hm, you could make it like Rotom I guess, or a lesser Protean type ability.
Move Idea: Chill Out
The User Unleashes a Blast of Extreme Cold upon the target, the Target is frozen if it hits.
Personally I prefer Arendelle, it’s so royal and has actual stuff unlike those dumb ice caves.
Snow Encounters weren’t a thing in Gen 4… they’re only a thing on Kalos Route 17
Huh. The more that you know, the more you can sow.
I’m just saying the Article is Wrong.
That is odd. I remember them in Diamond.
there’s Grass on Routes 216 and 217, and Acuity Lakefront.
No I rememeber the snow encounters and how aggravating they were
Bulbapedia says otherwise, altough the snow is INSANELY SLOW to tread through, THANK ARCEUS FOR FLY.
I finally decided what to do about Christmas…I’m getting my family two Google Home Minis since I’d like to introduce the whole smart home concept to them. It’s a double whammy because I’ll be the alpha male when I get the Google Home Max next year 😛
Anyone here heard of Pretty Cure?
No but I could do with an ugly cure.
Anime.
Favorite Legend of Each Gen(Legend Specifically, Ignoring Mythical Pokemon like God)?
1. Zapdos
2. Raikou
3. Latios
4. Uxie
5. Zekrom
6. Xerneas
7. Solgaleo
I don’t know which ones count as Legends, and which ones are ‘Mythical’.
Mythics are Event-Only… so Mew, Volcanion Etc.
Anything that is event exclusive (or Deoxys) is mythical, everything that’s in game is legendary. Silvally is a legend (which you probably know), yet Phione and Ultra Beasts are debated legends.
Silvally is Weird, what reason does it have for being so? other than being a Genetically Engineered Pokemon Designed to Kill Ultradimensional Threats and also based on GOD.
Probably its power and rarity
Either way it’s a Legend on a Technicality.
The shiny silvally distribution refers to it as a legend. It is a legend. Being artifical didn’t stop Mewtwo or Magearna from obtaining their status.
Magearna’s a Mythical though
Magearna is Mythical… and Mewtwo is a DIRECT CLONE of a mythical pokemon.
Mythical and legendary are rarity terms, they’re pretty much the same thing lore and power wise.
Where would Keldeo stand? Is it Mythical cos its and event or legendary since the rest of the Muskateers are available in-game?
Events are Mythical… it’s always been that way in Japan and International followed suit recently.
It’s mythical because it’s event exclusive. Imo it’s kinda dumb and doesn’t really matter, especially because Keldeo and Darkrai are part of a group with (a) legend(s) and thus the title is pretty much pedantics
In sequels or Remakes they should do a Deoxys
Turn from Mythical to Legendary
Lol, exactly what i was getting at. I’ve always referred to them all as Legends. In my opinion all Mythicals are Legends, but not all Legends are Mythical (if that makes sense to anyone)
That’s exactly how I feel. It’s a subsection of legend based on rarity, not a totally different grouping.
Simple
Legend is it can be found naturally in game
Mythical if by event
1.Articuno
2.Lugia
3.Reggie-Ice
4.ANTIMATTER JESUS
5.Virizion
6.DEATH BIRB.
7.NEBBY
Mewtwo
Ho-Oh
Groudon
Heatran
Zekrom
Yveltal
Necrozma
Zapdos
Entei
Latias
Regigigas
Kyurem
Mewtwo X (if it counts)
Tapu Fini
1. Mewtwo
2. Suicune
3. Registeel
4. Dialga
5. Terrakion
6. Zygarde
7. Tapu Bulu
Mewtwo
Raikou
Kyogre
Mesprit
Virizion
Zygarde
Tapu Lele
Articuno
Lugia
Rayquaza
Giratina
Reshiram
Xerneas
Lunala
so you like Antimatter Jesus as well I see.
You mean Satan
Zapdos (I guess)
Pass
Groudon
Palkia
Landorus
Zygarde
Solgaleo
Why not Zygarde? Has it caused you too much grief?
I honestly forgot of Zygarde
It’s even a Ground Type!
I’m having a mentally rough day
It seems and acts more like a Gen.7 Pokémon tbh
I mean they did skip Giving it it’s own Game(s?) to Go to Hawaii, and then it showed up there for no real reason even though it’s on the other Side of the F’n World from France
Well it does go and reside close to where order will go amok soon
Because Zygarde-Complete was so broken and it was hilarious how no one saw it coming.
It’s the Only Pokemon(to my Knowledge, but not written on it’s BP page) that Gains HP via a Forme Change.
I loved it in Volcanion’s movie
I loved the Zygarde Arc at the end of the Kalos Anime.
Meh until the end it was kind of pointless tbh
Squishy was a big role in about 5 episodes before the final 5 some
I still think Ash-Greninja will pull a Charizard and rescue Ash in world ending disaster then leave again
I didn’t watch the rest of the anime, hell i even skipped over the league. But that Arc in my opinion redeemed Team Flare and Zygarde to an extent.
I only still liked Xerosic, who was a complete psycho
Member my old theory about Zygarde’s special power was a planetary reset?
You had a Theory Zygarde was Sailor Saturn?
I don’t know jack about sailor moon
My theory was that it’s power was that if humans harmed the ecosystem that it would deem humanity unworthy and destroy the planet from the inside out and hope that the life born from the ashes would fair better
So kind of like the Ragnarok from Norse Mythology?
Humans failed to respect and cherish the land therefore they must be purged
Sailor Saturn’s Job/Power is to Nuke Everything…
I actually don’t remember, sorry.
The only thing i do remember however is everyone laughing at Complete-Zygarde’s stats, and me deciding to use a Sub-Coil in OU once it was released.
You don’t like Entei? I thought it’d be right up your alley :0
Ehhhh I’m a firm hater of the Legendary Beasts
ESPECIALLY THAT CHEAP FREAKING SUICUNE
Love Suicune most of the time
Absolutely hate it in comp
Seriously Scald makes it a billion times worse
It’s just so unfair it doesn’t even care about damaging it just has to wait for 30% burn
Same with Toxapex
Competitively Suicune is evil
Design wise, best of Gen.2 Legendaries
Articuno
Lugia
Kyogre
Giratina
Zekrom
Yveltal
Tapu Koko
Gen 1: Articuno
Gen 2: Ho-Oh
Gen 3: Kyogre
Gen 4: Dialga
Gen 5: Meloetta
Gen 6: Xerneas/Diancie
Gen 7: Lunala
Articuno- Es beautiful
Lugia- Es powerful
Rayquaza- Es iconic
Dialga-Es Steel
Reshiram- Es Blue
Xerneas- Es ok
Solgaleo- Es the best
Mew
Raikou
Rayquaza? Idk honestly
Darkrai
Victini
Zygarde
Zeorora
You included like 4 mythicals.
They have best designs boi :3 I almost put jirachi for gen 3
Mythicals are not Legendaries. Mythicals are not legendaries. Mythical are no legendaries. Mythicals are not legendaries.
YOURE NOT A LEGENDARY.
IMO they’re subspecies of Legendaries.
That may be but the question states not to include them.
I thought it meant like Arceus 🙁
Migt change darkrai for giratina origin…hard call
Gen 1: Moltres
Gen 2: Lugia
Gen 3: Latias
Gen 4: Dialga
Gen 5: Reshiram
Gen 6: Yveltal
Gen 7: Lunala
Gen 1: Mew
Gen 2: Lugia
Gen 3: Rayquaza
Gen 4: Giratina
Gen 5: Reshiram
Gen 6: Yveltal
Gen 7: Necrozma
Edit: Forgot mew is a mythical so mewtwo for gen 1.
You know it really bothers me how you can’t name yourself Platinum in Platinum Because trainer names are ONE CHARACTER too short.
Never for me >:3
I only need 3 characters or 7
Lucky me I go by a few names in games
Male: Alex (My real name), Kurusu and Wally
Female: Normally one of my female friends names
It fits in Japanese is the Thing, because Pu Ra Chi Na is 4 characters and they give you 5
You could do Pla’num, it’s close enough…assuming you can use an apostrophe.
Or just Platnum barely a difference lol
You could go for Plato, short for Platinum.
This is My Second Platinum Run and I went with Dwan this time so I called her platina, Plato is the Semi-Official Optional Name according to bulbapedia.
I think after work I’m just gonna stay in my room for 24hrs straight
They’re constantly on my ass for EVERYTHING today
I wish I could do that, but oddly my wants revolve differently than my families
When I want to have quiet time and peace, they need me and are my a$$ about everything
When I want to spend time with my family, they shoo me away and want to neglect me