Elite Four Showdown: Kalos

Greetings Junglers, Evan here! Once again I’m bringing you the Elite Four Showdown. But first: the winner of last time. It’s Caitlin! She won with 37% of the votes. She’s followed by Grimsley (32%), Shauntal (21%) and Marshal (10%).

Black_White_Caitlin

And now: the last region for this Showdown. Pick your favorite and let us know who it is in the comments below!

MalvaXY_Malva

  • Top right encounter
  • Fire
  • Pyroar, Torkoal, Chandelure and Talonflame
  • Name: Malva (a flower genus) or lava
  • Trivia: She is the only Elite Four member who is part of an villainous team.

SieboldXY_Siebold

  • Bottom right encounter
  • Water
  • Clawitzer, Gyarados, Starmie and Barbaracle
  • Name: Siebold’s crabapple and sea
  • Trivia: Siebold is also a famous chef.

WikstromXY_Wikstrom

  • Top left encounter
  • Steel
  • Klefki, Probopass, Scizor and Aegislash
  • Name: Wikstroemia (a tree genus)
  • Trivia: Wikstrom is the first Elite Four member who appears in a Pokémon movie.

DrasnaXY_Drasna

  • Bottom left encounter
  • Dragon
  • Dragalge, Druddigon, Altaria and Noivern
  • Name: Dracaena (a tree genus) and dragon
  • Trivia: Drasna’s grandparents were from Sinnoh and taught her the myths of Dialga and Palkia, which inspired her to become a Dragon-type specialist.

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X — EVAN


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1,323 thoughts on “Elite Four Showdown: Kalos”

  1. So god damn bored
    Alright so the Demo is everyone’s biggest thought now so I figure we should lay down some ground rules
    Absolutely no doubt we’re all going to get it so I say we should try to limit telling what we see, I myself will be a temporary 3 hour leave to play the demo thoroughly and soak up all every, inch, of detail

    But the more important is if it gets datamined. And if we’re going to be posting info here under spoilers

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        • Fair. I’m of the unpopular opinion that anti-spoiler people should just avoid social media and news websites anyway. But I know that that’s too insensitive for most people to swallow.

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          • To be fair though, people shouldn’t have to be forced off of media to avoid something, because spoiler people get to stay on regardless. I do feel that giving people the choice of spoiler threads and non spoiler threads is the way to go.

          • lol Like I understand where you’re coming from, so don’t take this the wrong way, but I hate when people act like it’s some Arceus granted, basic human right to constantly be on social media and/or the internet in general and never ever have anything pop up that you don’t want to see or here. As if it’s everyone else’s job to protect you. I’ll follow whatever rules PJ decides to go with cause I’ve really enjoyed this little community, but I couldn’t care less for anti-spoiler people who need what is essentially a safe space.

          • Oh no, it’s definitely not some sort of right I expect, it’s just a luxury that I wish more people could indulge in. And there’s plenty of alternative places I can go for Pokémon news and discussion, it’s just I’m going to miss the people here.

          • I can respect that. I’m just one of those people that spoilers don’t negatively impact my enjoyment on really anything. While reading GoT I was talking to my friends about the books I hadn’t even read yet. I dunno. Im weird. I’ll admit it. Lol

    • I think for the comments there should be a guide of how to post spoiler tags etc for the comments as the featured comment so people know and can use them accordingly. I would also like some separate articles for full leaks and just Pokémon leaks.

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    • I would like to impose Deer Rule #1: PJ is our super plumber here, cuz it’s his job to stop all the leaks quickly, but also must understand the flow of water so we don’t dry up from the well for those who want water.

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          • Highly unlikely that if and when the demo gets datamined, it’ll hold no secrets. Again, it could happen, GF may have learned, but the amount of effort it’d take is huge.

          • Well to be fair it’s not about laziness or anything really. It just takes a lot of time/effort/money to take all those things out. Their mindset (as it should be) is that leaks don’t happen. I don’t blame them for not wanting to waste their time on something like a demo. Plus there are risks to cleaning out demos. Certain parts might F up the game if taken out and they don’t always know what part that is. It’s safer just to leave it all in there for the games performance sake.

    • I can’t risk it. As soon as it gets datamined I’m out; there will be people who don’t tag spoilers, you can’t control everyone.

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      • I’m not really bothered on composition or anything so I could’ve done a lot better :p

        It’s all Pokémon I’ve been dying to try out and I must say they’re all really fun ones to use.

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  2. Speaking of playthroughs, does anyone think my team is underleved in HGSS?
    – Typhlosion LV 36
    – Bellosom LV 34
    – Slowking LV 35
    – Mismagius LV 34
    – Ambipom LV 35
    – Crobat LV 34
    And I’m about to enter Victory road. Seems kinda underleved to me, but I haven’t grinded at all.

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    • Maybe a tiny bit? Gen 1/2 (plus their remakes) always did a crappy job of making sure you could get up to the correct levels once you reach the E4. I’m trying to finish Yellow before Sun and Moon come out, but all my Pokemon are mid 40’s. I’ll need to grind in order to get them at a decent level to take on the E4 and Blue…..

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    • My whole team was 55 when I did it so maybe? Then again I’ve been over training in every game since gen 1 as a result of having a massively hard time against Gary. By gen 3 and up, my standard was that my entire team be at 75 for the E4. In 6 they ended up being 100 because the exp share made it stupidly easy to grind

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        • Well, like I said, in gen 2 it was because I didn’t want to lose ever again and I really didn’t understand the way RPGs worked as a kid. So I 15 by the first gym and then 5 levels every gym. It also helped to pad the game so I didn’t beat it too quickly.

          By gen 3 this got messed with when I was at 20 near granite cave. I wandered in without flash, got lost and didn’t find the exit until like a week later and by then my pokemon were around 24-25, so I just made that the new standard. I wotked really well in gen 4 since there was such a huge gap between gyms which gave me more time to train.

          Hell, I remember abusing the VS seeker in FRLG so much that my team was over trained. One day my friend came over and accidentally took my copy thinking it was his green. As a gentleman’s agreement, we looked over each one’s data without saving just to see where the other was. He called me though and was like, “Dude, why is your team lv 50…and you only have 3 badges?”

          I guess it just got out of hand after a while lol

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    • You have Ice Beam? ’cause you’re probably gonna need it. I’d think at least early 40’s, mine were only around 42 when I went in I think.

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          • Actually if Ithsme wanted to he could get a Choice Specs at the Lake of Rage if he doesn’t think Blizzard would be strong enough to take out his Dragonites. It’s an option, but I think he’ll be fine because Slowking has a 100 SP Attack stat, which should be able to take out a Dragonite or 2.

          • The issue was more if Blizzard will actually hit, it’s definitely powerful enough, but it’s accuracy is somewhat lacking.

    • I would say grind up to the low 40s or something higher than that because even with leveling up my Pokemon to that level Lance kicked my ass and almost beat me, if it weren’t for my Ampharos’s Thunder.

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  3. Have HMs been confirmed as removed from Sun and Moon with the introduction of Poke Ride? I think it would be a tad silly to mount a Pokémon just to cut down a single bush blocking your path. 😛 (or maybe cut/bushes are no longer an obstacle?)

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    • You probably won’t get to catch any Pokémon. Just your starter and Ash-Greninja. Or maybe just Ash-Greninja since we’ve only seen starter evolutions stage 1.

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    • I don’t think we’ll be able to catch it, only Greninja has been confirmed and I feel like the middle starters are the only others we’ll get.

      Though if we get more I feel like evolving will be blocked for certain Pokémon.

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  4. I just thought of an idea. Bounsweet should have a hidden ability called “Ripen”
    Mangosteens have a property in which fruits that are sealed with them get ripe faster and stay that way longer. Maybe this could be a Grass type version of Flame Body (minus the burn)

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  5. Is anyone else digging how much Ghosts there are? Like having tons of Fairies, Grasses, and Normals is really easy to guess of region like Alola, but it’s a nice surprise to see one of the rarest types get more. Hopefully next Gen is something like Canada, Russia or even a hyper exaggerated Scotland so we can get more Ice Types.

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  6. Comment Question (since this page seems a little empty with comments today):
    What was the team that you used for HG/SS, where did you get your Pokemon from your team, and what was the most memorable part about the game?

    For my answer, my team was:
    Typhlosion (Kai)
    Crobat (Violet)
    Ampharos (Wyatt)
    Heracross (Ceros)
    Tentacruel (Brook)
    Tyranitar (Ninkovich)

    I got Kai as a starter, Violet when I went to explore Dark Cave, Wyatt when I needed a Pokemon to take out, so I went to Route 32, Ceros when I was just head butting some trees in Azalea and then came across it, Brook when I surfed around Route 40 (with my sentret), and Ninkovich after I spent half a week trying to get a Larvitar in the Safari Zone.

    A really memorable part from HeartGold was the Champion Battle, because all of my and Lance’s Pokemon got knocked out, so his under leveled Dragonite and my Ampharos were battling for a very long time. We both were using up our moves quite a bit, but my Ampharos narrowly finished off his Dragonite with the remaining PP I had on Thunder. I felt so accomplished after that.

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  7. So I know I’ve brought it up a bunch but it’s never been as it’s own comment, just in to the comments of comments, and it can help kinda buffer out the low convo count, but would anyone be seriously interested in a story project for SuMo?

    Basically, it’d be a shared universe everyone could write in and could have crossovers based off our SuMo characters and Pokémon, although obviously adjustments will have to be made (not everybody can be carrying around an Solgaleo and Lunala and not everyone can be the hero of Alola :p).

    I feel it’d be a good opportunity to get some more writing practice and encourage members to write :p

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        • Exactly! I just hope Wimpod is available early in the games. But, knowing Pokemon’s formulatic distribution it probably will be a post 3rd “gym leader” type of deal.

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          • It’s a weak Bug-type so I feel it’ll show up fairly early, but I doubt it’ll be past half way through Akala Island which is only about 3/8 through the game (and thats assuming all the islands take the same time to complete, which they almost definitely won’t)

            So definitely early game or the start of mid game.

          • I’m just wondering if you have any other planned team members. I can imagine some interesting team dynamics with other Pokémon :p

          • Well, I’d really love to see the full roster before choosing, but I could see me having a Rockruff, Litten, Komola, Pikipek, and a Salandit.

          • Yeah, I’ve already got a lot of stories set up but I’m paranoid about the possibility of more Pokémon showing up I want to use instead ^^;

          • I know! I hope they didn’t butcher Komola or Wimpod’s evolution. I really hope Wimpod becomes the Gyrados of Alola. That would be awesome. Bottomfeeder to Alola God! Haha!

            Plus the riddler says we don’t know all there is to know about the starter’s evolutions. So maybe the split form is still a concept worth considering?

          • Unless Popplio3’s split form is also likely to be Fairy it has nothing on the leaked one :p

            I’m hoping they don’t botch Salandit’s evo, I’ve got a theme going and I finally got a good fire type for it :p

            But Wimpod being the Alolan Magikarp is something I see happening.

          • Well, I originally wanted a clown Popplio. I like the Siren, but I still want my clown water puppy lol

            Omg, I know. I’m scared for Salandit. The conceptual art I’ve seen for its evolution by fans leaves me a bit uneasy.

            All hail Wimpod. (You’ve been replaced Helix.)

          • I’m the opposite, I was happy with non-clown Popplio because I was afraid it’d be ugly :s

            Yeah, it’s gonna be hard to make an evo for 😡

            Wimpgod :p

          • I think GF could have done a decent job at it, but then again: Mr. Mime. *Shudder*

            I honestly wasn’t expecting a female based Salandit evolution when it was first announced. It will be interesting to see where it’s going.

          • I was expecting a female based evolution due to the females producing pheromones, but at the same time I hope the male Salandit don’t get shafted and it’s a Vespiquen situation :s

          • My story is always a continuation of my in game character moving on to the next region and getting caught up will all sorts of bullcrap

          • That’s fine, you’d probably have to cut out the ‘saving the world’ bit if you were to get involved with the project because I don’t want to have anyone as some sort of world saving hero for balance reasons. But a veteran trainer who’s travelled around the world is fair game, just as most backstories are as long as they’re not Mary-suey.

    • not sure I 100% understand what it would be but I’m 100% interested! I like to think if I were a trainer I would always start fresh in a new region only bringing along my trusty Swirlix and my goal in each region would first and foremost to be to catch and research every type of fairy I could find (the gyms and i guess trails just being a side thought for me)

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      • It would basically all just be stories in Alola (unless it’s backstory) but I like the idea of being a type researcher, it’s a really cool idea o haven’t seen yet!

        BTW you don’t have to do trials if you don’t want to, your character could just have a different goal in mind ^^

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  8. Just wanted to clarify since people might still be unsure of this. Silvally is a combination of silver and ally. It’s not pronounced sil•val•lee. It’s pronounced silv•alī. The proof is in its name in other languages:

    French
    Silvallié
    From silver and allié (ally)

    German
    Amigento
    From amigo (friend) and argentum (silver)

    Japanese
    シルヴァディ Shiruvadi
    From silver and buddy

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b0a3db01bd0fde9de7c8819d7f8106dd1065c3ad9756cc5280c02b9bb6f54a53.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4b90ec2067a12eb5bd5753c83fbc3569e075a6dc42b9e31bc6c47b1225fc3841.png

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    • I can’t comment on the French and Japanese translations, but amigo is definitely a Spanish word (for friend) and not German. I’d imagine that the German name would be a composition of German words, not Spanish.
      Furthermore, I looked at the Spanish site and the name is the same as in English.

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      • Spanish and Italian Pokémon names are always the same as English ones.
        German Pokémon names tend to use other languages, including the dead language known as Latin, as well as their own language. Actually, German is the only language that has Pokémon names originating from other languages. English and Japanese does this as well.

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          • I go to Bulbapedia for name origins. I love Pokémon etymology~!
            It provides extra depth into what a Pokémon represents.

        • It should be noted that Type: Null is the only Pokemon that has its name changed in Spanish and Italian games. It’s literally the translation of Type: Null in both languages and it shows that Type: Null is not really a Pokemon name, but it’s something different, more literal.

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  9. Wow I almost beat the E4 AND Champion in Yellow! I didn’t think I’d get as far as past Lorelei, but I beat her and then I beat Bruno and then I beat Agatha (tougher than the others actually) and then to my surprise I actually beat Lance! I got through Blue’s first Pokemon (Sandslash), but then his Alakazam wrecked my team. I went into this with very little potions and by the end I was relying on revives to keep going. If I had more Super Potions and my Pokemon were a little bit higher in level I would have likely beaten it. lol

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    • I can believe that a Pokémon so many people just kinda swept to the side has become so popular as speculation, art and just as itself.

      Also, spectacular art, the artists out done themselves.

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      • Yeah, I didn’t expect Type: Null to evolve and definitely didn’t expect it to look pretty similar only bigger, but it’s a really interesting Pokémon over all. I likes.

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  10. This is easy. Malva, especially thanks to that fun turnaround twist in the XY&Z series. Siebold comes 2nd, with Wikstrom my least favorite.

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