Pokémon Generations Episode 3: The Challenger

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As promised the third episode of Pokémon Generations is now available to watch online!

Episode 3: The Challenger follows a trainer as he tests his abilities against the Kanto Elite Four.

What do you think of Pokémon Generations so far? Is it living up to your expectations or does it leave you wanting more?

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  3. I swear why does everything go bad
    I haven’t touched my 3DS in weeks, kept it nice and safe now I can’t get to eShop
    I keep getting a 005-4701 error
    I can’t tell if it’s undergoing maintenance or it’s something wrong

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  5. Ok I think it’s starting to work
    Miiplaza’s update is going through
    I am updating my Brother’s 3DS (Aka back-up DS #1)
    And soon I’ll attempt to go to eShop

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  6. Ok everything is right in the world
    EShop works, everything is updating and now I gotta leave the house for 7 hours because renovation,
    So I’m gonna chill in the woods behind my house and just play Zelda all day in the rain

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  7. Ok so I restarted my Platinum version and I’ve decided on my team to be

    Piplup- (Slippy) lvl.6
    Zubat- (Chiro) not obtained
    Houndour- (Doury) not obtained
    Ralts- (Curtsy) not obtained
    Bunneary- (Hoppy) not obtained
    Snover- (Pinecone) not obtained

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  8. I have had my fair share of competition in Pokemon but I just found a neat group that could beat some of the most overused Pokemon (M-Rayquaza, Primals, M-Kangaskahn, haven’t tried it but it’s a theory

    1. Galvantula for a Gastro Acid attack use to dissipate all Abilities (I’ve done it this is proven) and has attacks like Thunder and such to take down Rayquaza and Kyogre yet with disadvantage to Rock and Fire meaning can be beaten by those types easily some of these others can help counter that
    2. Clefable possibly one of the most confusing why no one uses it, it can use Gravity to take Rayquaza and all other Levitate or Flying Pokemon down then with Galvantula it can use its wide movepool to smash them out of the park
    3. Hitmontop the last resort v.s. Kangaskahn knowing its speed can prevail over and it using moves like Triple kick and Close Combat then Wide guard to stop Pokemon from crushing its allies in seconds
    4. Reunicleus lets be real this binds up the whole team with its use of recover, High Attack, and its versatility to use Trick room and Skill swap to take it allies up into their full potential
    5. Slaking we all knew the big fat guy might be here on this list and of what I’ve read it has one of the highest totals of all Pokemon ranking 29 highest stat totals of all time in these games and with Reunicleus’s Skill swap can unbundle its power and can send it spiraling in with whopping strength and speed with a variety of moves at his disposal.
    6. M-Gyrados no one will get this one for its power falls under its ability to take out Groudon, Kyogre, and Rayquaza for it can use Outrage, Flamethrower, and Hydro pump for Mold breaker breaks ineffective moves

    So what’s your comments?

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    • Uhhhhhhh Galvantula would just be two shouted because of its fragility and Mega Kang fake out into a Return killing it, then retreating if gastro acid (they’re NEVER gonna let that stay)
      Clefable on the offensive is decent but is outclassed by everything else better off as a wall
      All Psychic types this generation fear boosted Knock Off
      Slaking is powerful only as a Choice Retaliator but Truant still hurts it
      And seriously M Gyarados is easily wrecked by Primals since All Gyarados run the same thing, DDance, Waterfall, Crunch, Outrage/Earthquake and during the turn it sets up Kyoge can two shot it with Thunder and P Groudon disables Waterfall and Earthquake only gets it so far and before you say Mold Breaker it will not bypass a weather of Extremely Harsh Sunlight which negates Water moves

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    • Galvantula is good for Gastro Acid but it’s so frail. Chances of you being able to get it set up before it faints is fairly small with the new VGC rules.
      Clefable I almost always run because its so flexible and bulky and immune to dragon. Hitmontop is king of priority moves. They just need to bring back Sucker Punch as a tutor move.
      Reuniclus; their are some better options out there for trick room but it takes too long to set up and can be a double edged sword.
      Good luck getting a Skill Swap out on Slaking before Reuniclus is taken out.
      It’s not my favorite Mega design, but M. Gyarados is my favorite Mega to use. I’ve won so many times with it. Very versatile.

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      • Omg yes to the sucker punch
        Do you know how freaking long I wanted a real Sucker Punch Golem?
        Ever since they let it have Sturdy and Weakness policy

        You take a hit from many weaknesses and then boom STAB Rock Slide/Blast and Earthquake
        And if they linger SUSUSUSUCKER PUNCH
        I mean it’s a one trick….turtle but I still would like to have onesie

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    • I imagine you’re talking about doubles here. I don’t really know too much about doubles but these strategies seem really passive. By the time you set them up, they will have already taken massive chunks of damage out of you. If not already KOd the Pokemon.

      I know Hitmontop (Fake Out and Priority), Clefable (Follow Me, Bulk and immunity to Dragons) and Mega Gyarados are good in VGC however.

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    • Give it time
      I mean what other jaw dropping moments can they really do a five min short about
      Eyeballing the kabuki goyles?
      That wiener that points out the Wailmer blocking lilycove city?
      Or the Psysuck blocking the road in lake…..Valor or was it outside the milkmaids

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      • I get the feeling they’ll try to rave on about Lavender Tower at some point, and probably something about the Mansion on Cinnabar island, maybe showing the day the island volcano erupted or something mewtwo related, then they’ll want to do something in the powerplant and something in Seafoam islands, and something in Cerulean caves and before you know it it’ll be all about Kanto.

        As for interesting events from other regions, aside from the individual climaxes of each story and the champions of each league, there’s:

        Johto:
        the day the Brass Tower burned down, the incident at lake rage, the time Team Rocket took over the radio, the time Glitter Lighthouse went out because Amphy was sick, stuff to do with the whirl islands, stuff to do with the Ruins of Alph, stuff to do with the Slowpoke well

        Hoenn:
        the truth about the Regis and the Sealed chamber, stuff about Southern Island, stuff about Birth Isalnd, a history of the Cave of Origin, a deeper look at the space project on Mossdeep, the origins of Sky Pillar (e.g. who actually built it and why), the origins of the dessert ruins that appear in emerald, hosting the fossils, stuff about Mt. Chimney or Meteor falls, the history of the Devon Corp., the full story behind New Mauville and its failure, a look at the mystery behind what Prof. Cosmo’s father did for the Devon Corp.

        I could go on, but there’s 3 more regions… anyway, you get the picture.

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        • I agree they could do a lot with Kanto. Especially focusing on the transition between gen 1 and gen 2 Kanto. But I very much doubt that’s all they will focus on. There’s is so much from other regions they could go into as you mentioned.

          Personally I wanna see the fallout between team rocket following Gen 2s story climax. I also want to see the damage caused during the Gen 3 climax. Maybe some more info on Mt Pyre, the orbs, Cave of Origin and Sky Pillar. I also want some closure on Maxie and Archie and not just a ‘we’ve seen the errors of our ways’ bs

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          • The eruption of Cinnabar volcano is probably one of the few Kanto events I wouldn’t mind seeing. If they end up doing anything about Lavender Tower I will go ballistic.
            There is a lot they can do, but my faith grows thinner every time they draw the attention back to Kanto with megas, alolans and specialised Z moves (Snorlax, Eevee, Pikachu, Raichu… the pattern is there but so far nobody has questioned it)

            I really want to see some focus on the ruins of the regions and the ancient civilisations because we know next to nothing about the people who built the ruins or what the regions used to look like. It’s only in the last two games and the next one that they’ve started to try to forge a timeline/history that stretches back further than the last few years. The Kalos war, the Delta episode and the creation of Magearna.

            Prior to that all the legendaries have just been accepted as being there and they’ve mentioned the discoveries of ancient groups of humans, but never anything about the culture of the ancient peoples or any major events. It’s as if the world has only existed for about 20 years at the most…

    • Don’t forget about the concept art of N, team plasma, Kalos and the fact that the freaking poster has all generations on it and it’s called generations and we saw all the generations in the trailer.

      Trust me, don’t worry.

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      • That’s no comfort. Need I remind you how many megas Kanto ended up receiving in comparison to the other regions/generations?
        They have a major Kanto bias, I wouldn’t be surprised if there were only one episode per non-Kanto generation.

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        • Need I remind you that Kano, being first, is also the least useful gen of pokemon. Most gen one pokemon were considered trash pre gen 6. They needed the boost more then any other pokemon, with gen 2 close behind. As well remember we’ve already seen footage of the legendary beasts in Jhoto, so we know that their likely coming soon, probably next episode honestly.

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          • They could have just tweaked the stats with little effort and they probably wouldn’t have had much complaint from fans, but instead they decided to make them centre stage, to the detriment of the new region’s own pokemon.

            We know they make an apperance, but we don’t know how many episodes will focus on other regions. They may only do one episode per region.

          • tweaking stats slightly isn’t easy in pokemon. Simply its easier to create new forms where you can re-balance it how you would like, which is what they’ve done.

          • From the programmer’s perspective, it’s as easy as overwriting a few bytes of data.
            It’s the community that finds issues with it.

            I would still have rather they attempted something region forms prior to G7. One of the biggest issues I have with megas is the non-permenance.

        • I see where you’re coming, but if you look at the Mega evolution distribution across the generations, Hoenn has the most (In X/Y: Kanto: 10, Johto: 5, Hoenn: 8, Sinnoh: 3, Unova: 0, Kalos: 0, In ORAS: Kanto: 3, Johto: 1, Hoenn: 12, Sinnoh: 2, Unova: 1, Kalos: 1 => Total: Kanto: 13, Johto: 6, Hoenn: 20, Sinnoh: 5, Unova: 1, Kalos: 1). It makes sense for Hoenn to have the most b/c of ORAS, with Kanto in second b/c of X/Y

          X/Y, Origins, Sun/Moon etc. definitely display a Kanto-bias, but I suppose that’s to try and bring in the older fans.

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          • Hoenn only ended up with the most when ORAS added more, prior to that Kanto was king. I admit they probably gave Hoenn too much focus too, but that’s a bit more understandable since they were remaking the region. In particular, it’s tragic that Kalos, the region that introduced megas, has only one mega evolver, and it’s a legendary.

            And the key thing about those 3 are that they’re recent, much like generations. The only recent thing to not show Kanto bias is ORAS. It showed Hoenn bias, but it was set in Hoenn – it’s supposed to. Every game should be centred around the region it’s set in, with older generations either being linked in with the generation (e.g. via evolutions like Tangrowth, Roserade or the Eevee-lutions) or making less prominent appearances as catchable pokemon in the region.

            They’ll never bring back the ‘older fans’ because those people (without meaning to invoke a fallacy) are not true pokemon fans. They made their decision to abandon pokemon long ago. The only thing they feel is nostalgia, which isn’t the same as genuinely liking the series. Granted, even the real fans have things they dislike about later generations, but at least we can see and accept both the good and the bad and just not abandon them just because of the few things we dislike.

        • I mean. Maybe.

          But why else would we have a Pokemon generations poster with the primals, with Lysander and AZ, N, and with Cyrus? I mean I would be very suprised if they did all of that for all kanto or even just one episode of non-kanto. Plus in the trailer they show us mostly non Kanto stuff. They also showed us a lot of stuff in the trailer that isn’t Kanto too.

          So there is hope. Don’t worry

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          • One episode per generation (Lysander and Az for G6, N for G5, Cyrus for G4).

            No logical argument is going to convince me, it’s a matter of faith in this case.

    • Don’t forget a lot of kanto was already covered in Origins. I don’t think they’ll linger much longer, if at all. Blue vs Red is basically the last arc from kanto, other than mewtwo, which they did in Origins.

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      • You have greater optimism than me.
        Volt Tackle, Megas, Alolans, personalised Z Moves – their determination to bring the focus back to Kanto will never cease.

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          • Jeez when you put it this way I realize how much it seems like some kids birthday party and there is one kid in the corner that everyone is giving attention instead

          • Exactly. They need to make all regions shine, not just Kanto.

            So far the closest they’ve got to that is the monthly legendary pokemon download/giveaway. It’s certainly given me more appreciation for legendaries I had previously forgotten about by making them more accessible. For example, I think this is the first time I’ve actually owned a Shaymin.

          • I think a lot of people haven’t knowing everyone looks for them and if I wouldn’t have lost White I would have 5 I’m on fire with them

          • kalos actually has an interestingish environment though, kanto does not. Cliffside lookouts that you can see to the routes and cities below, a desert area with a gorgeous cavern, the reflection cave, a ghastly marshland, and the booming lumiose city, just to name a few. kanto is mostly isolated cities, with a cape town or 2. that’s definitely due to hardware difference however, as I’m sure kanto could be interesting with a 3d environment and a little polish.

          • The things I like about Kanto is
            1. Revisiting it in Johto
            2. Vermillion City and its HGSS music
            3. It’s great difficulty curve

            Other than that all it has is nostalgia

          • revisiting it in HGSS was what I liked, it had effort put into it this time around, it was blank as heck in the original G/S/C. I didnt find that game any more difficult than the others though. I played through yellow recently and dear god my poor moltres doesn’t learn any moves leveling up in that game other than agility…. good thing blaine gave me a fire blast tm.

          • Move sets in gen 1 were just awful. Articuno was probably the best of the birds back in Kanto though. Wish it didn’t get overshadowed. Stealth Rock and Ice just being a vastly underpowered type just destroy it

          • 3 is more about G1, not the region itself.
            And the difficulty was more to do with the restrictions built into the game than anything else. If you played a modern game and limited yourself to using G1 Pokemon with G1 movesets you’d find it a lot harder.

            Not to mention the differences in damage calculation and other things.

            Also it sounds like you’re only imagining Kanto in its HGSS incarnation, which is admitedly is probably its best incarnation (despite the lack of Pokemon mansion), but that’s still a slightly biased way to look at it.

          • That’s probably more to do with the way the Exp mechanic was than anything else. They didn’t have a way to boost the exp gain of a single pokemon, only to share the exp earned out over the whole team.
            Plus the distribution of grassland/caves/water was a bit odd.

          • I haven’t worked it out, but I get the imprssion that proportionately there are more Kalos pokemon that I like than Kanto pokemon. e.g. Trevenant, Gourgeist, Noivern, Aurorus, Hawlucha, Slurpuff, Aromatisse, Pangoro, Gogoat, Talonflame (genuinely my favourite regional bird).
            As for the locations, I’d say they’re equally bland, but possibly a little bit prettier.

            Regardless, I also cannot wait for the genwunner phase to end.

            It’s clearly a double ploy to A) try to hook old ‘fans’ back in (which is practically impossible) and B) to try and capitalise on the popularity of Pokemon Go (more plausible, but still not going to work as well as they expect).

          • I love people saying that the new pokemon are poorly designed when a lot of gen 1s were pretty bland. I mean, I like them okay, but.. Tauros? Seel? Pidgey is literally a freaking bird.

            I had such a hard time making a team when playing through Red honestly. Blastoise, Jolteon, Ninetales were obvious picks. Then.. Vileplume I guess? Ok I guess I can use Marowak. Ehhhh I mean I didn’t want to use a legendary but Articuno I suppose.

            Even Gen 2 had better mons. The starters all were cool even if they had pretty bland typings, Furret, Ampharos, Tyranitar, Espeon/Umbreon, Slowking, Crobat, Togepi line, Jumpluff, Scizor, Heracross, Marill, Hitmontop, Kindra, Skarmory, Houndoom, Sneasel, And awesome legendaries.

            And yeah, they have been trying to get old fans back since Gen 6 and it didn’t work so IDK why they think doing it again will help at all. GO is so different from the games anyways that I doubt it would actually change much

          • I’ve always been half and half about Venomoth. I don’t hate it like I do some pokemon, but I’d rarely consider using one.

          • Yeah. Granted I dislike (e.g.) Trubbish and Vanilluxe, but I also dislike Grimer, Seel, Rattata, and (to a degree) Ekans. (Tauros is probably one I like slightly more even though I rarely use it. I like it more than Miltank at least.)

            Yeah, it’s not just the limited choices, but also a lot are much more difficult to catch, especially the Safari Zone pokemon and the inability to hatch new pokemon from eggs.

            The G2 starters are one of the very few cases where I actually like all the starters. (Not equally, but to some degree, i.e. there is nothing I dislike about them)

            Furret is one of my favourite pokemon, I just wish Sentret were a bit cooler and Furret were a bit stronger.
            I’ve always liked Ampharos, but I wish it had always had the mane of wool its mega form gets. That’s one of the reasons why I don’t like megas – Ampharos deserves a permenant wool mane outside of battle as well.
            I actually used a Crobat for my ORAS playthrough.
            Espeon and Slowking are two of my favourite pokemon as well (again, despite their weaknesses). Scizor is both one of my favourites and strong, like Crobat.
            Heracross is another one I like, but I wish it had got a proper evolution instead of just a mega.
            Kindra is one of my favourite Dragon and Water types, and made me like a line I otherwise wouldn’t have liked much.
            I always liked Sneasel and I like Weavile even more (I just wish it didn’t have so many weaknesses with its typing).
            The rest aren’t among my favourites, but I don’t dislike them either, I appreciate them all as decent pokemon.
            The legendary dogs were infuriating to catch, but a good idea nonetheless.

            They just won’t give up.
            It’s only recently occurred to me that it might be only Kanto pokemon getting personal Z moves, so far they’re 4 for 4, so I seriously hope I’m wrong about that.
            Go is different, but I’m sure in someone’s mind the prominence of Kanto pokemon is going to somehow make P-Go players decide to play Sun and Moon (ignoring that it would mean buying a 3DS instead of staring into a phone all day).

          • Yeah. Why are Alola firms only for Kanto Pokémon? That’s makes no logical sense unless Alola is inhabited only by Kanto and Alola Pokémon.

          • There are so many pokemon that could use alolan forms. Imagine an Ice/Grass Jumpluff. A ghost/water ludicolo that does that spirit dance from Majora’s Mask. Poison/Fairy Vespiquin! A Fire type Zebstrika! Dark/Fairy Leavanny

            SO MUCH POTENTIAL

          • Not sure about those examples given (I still feel there should be precise justification to the retypings) but I agree there are a great many Pokemon that could benefit.

          • Ice/Grass Jumpluff would be like a hoppip that was flying around and got stuck in a snow storm and some how gained ice typing.

            Ghost/Water Ludicolo would begin to do some crazy spirit dance that would give it supernatural powers. Maybe give it a unique Z-Move

            Poison/Fairy Vespiquen would be like, some magical bee princess thing? IDK

            A Fire Zebstrika could be in an environment that causes it to convert its electrical energy into heat energy.

            Dark/Fairy Leavanny… idk. I just think it would be cool. Ate too many pancakes

          • “somehow” is not specific enough for my tastes. I like specific stuff. Vulpix and Sandshrew make sense because of their real world arctic equivalent, Meowth makes sense because of breeding and Marowak makes partial sense because of trying to overcome its weakness to its predators (similar to why Zangoose has the Immunity ability).

            I dislike the Ludicolo idea for the same reason I don’t like Marowak having Ghost typing. One does not become Ghost type by learning to dance.

            Vespiquen losing its Bug typing wouldn’t make sense, but attaining Fairy or Poison alongside it I could believe.

            The only reason I dislike Fire Zebstrika is because it would be too similar to Rapidash. I could believe it becoming part Grass because of its Sap Sipper ability, but Fire seems a bit odd. Would need detailed justification.

            Again, Bugs losing their bug typing wouldn’t make sense. Bug/Dark or Bug/Fairy I could live with. I could imagine it gaining Dark from living in a dark forest or Fairy by living near other faries or fairy rings. Losing its grass typing would require its form to change quite drastically though, it would have to stop looking like a leaf. Unless it became Fairy/Grass by somehow ascending into Fairy form, (which I guess means there is a circumstance in which I could accept Bug type being dropped, but that’s probably the only case I’d be happy with).

            Bottom line, I really don’t want region forms to be an excuse to just give every pokemon a crazy typing for the sake of ‘being cool’. They have to be properly justified. Gaining a typing to overcome a predator or adapt to an enviroment are the two best reasons for doing that, as long as the shoe fits.

          • The Keystone would be a Volcanic rock and it’s body would be fire. This could be based off the “curse” tourists will get if they take Lava rocks home from Hawaii. It works perfectly!

          • Well Froslass is based on a japanese legend of this woman in a kimono getting lost in a snow storm and becoming a spirit? Something like that? So it could be similar, but have it be all hawaiian

          • Oh. I thought you might say that. That’s why I have one. With only one icy mountain in Alola, not many people climbed and Frosslass didn’t get prey. It decided to hide in the dense forest which lots of tourists went to and kidnapped them there.

          • That doesn’t make sense, there are plenty of Sandshrew and Vulpix about.

            Plus you’d have to change Snorunt and Glalie too because if there were no food on the mountains then they’d have to come down into the forest as well.

          • Yeah, there are so many possibilites.

            For example, I would love to see a Jungle or Mountain variant of Gogoat.

            And there are plenty of Normal pokemon from the various generations that could benefit from a retyping.

  13. Hey I have a question why are some abilities in ORAS is it that not one Pokemon has it like rebound, persistent, and Mountaineer there are no Pokemon with those abilities

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  19. I got mixed feelings about this Pokemon Generations. I mean these animated shorts are AWESOME, the same way pokemon origins was, but on the other hand I hate the fact that this is not a regular series. The more I watch it, the more I wish it was! so that’s way I don’t want to get too hyped about it. This is a wasted opportunity, a gold mine….but instead they just want to keep with the current pokemon cartoon with lame Ash and company xD

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    • I’m seriously Amazed whenever someone says that Generation is good. We got 3 shorts with nothing at all. The only good thing we got was the animation.

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      • Sometimes when you’re exposed to something, you can see all of its hidden potential even if it’s just a small glimmer. Judging from these three shorts alone, many of can tell beyond the shadow of a doubt that a full length Pokemon series with this tone, dialogue, story, and animation would be phenomenal. Sorry if you can’t see the vision 🙂

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        • It could be
          But it isn’t.

          A full-fledged anime based on the games, or preferably pokespe would be a dream come true. But sadly, Generation doesn’t even come close to fulfilling it.

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    • I adore the animation. It’s so smooth and just… MMMMM I love it. I’m still on the fence about it. The new one left me a tiny bit thirsty for more. For one, I wish they would just clarify who the champion was beforte Blue, I also wish all of the E4 got as much attention as Agatha. I mean, Lorelei’s breasts were bigger than her character development

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  20. Something I hate about all this gen 1 love: they’re catering to their least loyal fans. The genwunners. The ones that haven’t played your games in years, GF! Or maybe it’s for Pokemon GO people, but the main games are vastly different, so they likely won’t even like the main games.

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      • Fans: GF we want the battle frontier!
        GF: We’ll put an Easter egg that will make you think DLC is coming, but it never will!
        Fans: Give us back difficulty options!
        GF: You clearly want easy mode, so we’ll just make ORAS mind-numbingly easy!
        Fans: Hey stop giving gen 1 so much love.
        GF: Did somebody say “giving gen 1 so much love”?

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      • They’re obviously not if they’re changing up a decade old formula in favor of something new and exciting. Sometimes developers DO know and GameFreak, compared to other companies is obviously much more in tuned with their fan-base then people give them credit for. Maybe they’re not catering to Generation 1, but rather catering to nostalgia itself and want new players, returning players, etc… to re-engage with the original games that made Pokemon what it is today.

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      • I’m willing to bet that 90% of Pokemon GO players won’t even buy the games (I mean the ones that only play GO). What confuses me is that time after time they’re catering to their flakiest audience, whether it be young kids, genwunners, and Arceus knows what’ll be next.

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    • Johto starters were the worst. If anything needs a mega, it’s them. Although I don’t see how we could make those terrible things any better. Unless they get the Mega Beedrill treatment.

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        • Honestly I’ve just never been a fan of the Gen 2 starters. They were terrible even in-game. Designwise they’re not the greatest either in my opinion. I just felt they were really …. boring.

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          • Interesting. They are only the first set of starters I had issues with. The second set were Gen 5. I just think if the starters aren’t something I’m gonna enjoy using in-game, they don’t appeal to me. Even when not look at them from a competitive standpoint.

            I didn’t enjoy playing the Gen 2 games because of that, and Gen 5 thankfully had Pokemon like Excadrill and Scrafty which I enjoyed using, so it made it bearable.

            I’ve actually liked the starters of all the other generations (yes, even Delphox was fine).

          • Delphox wasn’t one I had issue with. I actually regret not choosing Fennekin and wish I’d had Delphox as my starter.

            I didn’t like Greninja because of its creepy tongue scarf, I like Chesnaut and Chespin but I feel Quilladin doesn’t fit.

            As for the others, I don’t like Samurott, and I’m not a hug fan of Venusaur, Empoleon or Torterra.

            Starters are never a game breaker for me, but this time round it’s starting to look like it’ll be the first time where I stick my starter in a box and use only pokemon caught in the wild, but it depends on the second stage forms and whether or not I change my opinion about the final evos after seeing them in game.

          • I’ll join for the sake of it:
            Hoenn
            Johto
            Sinnoh
            Kalos
            Kanto
            Unova
            (With Alola at the bottom unless something changes my mind later)

          • I can live with everything but Unova being higher than Hoenn.
            That equates to saying Samurott is better than Marshtomp, Serperior is better than Sceptile and Emboar is better than Blaziken.

          • They get some bits right (like calling plumeria ‘big sis’) but others are pretty awful (mainly Z moves).

            I’m halfand half about wishiwashy. On the one hand it’s a bad name, on the other hand it’s an accurate translation and I can’t think of a better one.

          • Things I dislike:
            – Passimian ISNT A SIMIAN
            – Pikipek’s name
            – Crabrawler. The words crab and brawler only overlap one letter, I feel like they would’ve done better.
            – Lunala isn’t Lunaala
            Things I think they did well
            – Type: Null’s name seems fitting
            – Komala’s name
            – Jangmo-o’s name (even though I prefere Jangmo’o)
            Things I can’t forgive
            – Lycanroc’s name
            – Sandygast’s name

          • To clarify about lycanroc, I realize that a lycanthrope is a werewolf. I just think that Lycanthroc is a better name; at least it has an overlapping letter, it isn’t just two partial words slapped together.

          • The problem is, it’s only a wolf, it’s not a man.
            Lycan = Wolf
            Anthros = Man
            Lycanthro- = A portmanteau of Lycan and Anthros

            I’d be more in agreement if your complaint had been the lack of a ‘k’. (‘Roc’ was a legendary bird, which is unfitting)

          • Passimian is a Prosimian

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosimian

            -Pikipek doesn’t bother me, but I’m not going to judge it until I’ve seen its other forms.

            -Crabrawler I’ll grant you is a bit odd.
            -Lunala is a bit of a tough one to call, looking at the Japanese I’m not sure if it’s suposed to be Lu-na-la or Lu-na-a-la
            -Type Null is just stupid, but it’s accurate. The Japanese is Taipu: Nuru
            -I like Komala’s name. Coma-koala
            -Jangmo-o I very much agree with. The original name is Jarako out of interest
            -I like Lycanroc, particularly because it uses the word ‘Lycan’ (meaning wolf)
            -I agree Sandygast is awful, I’m not a fan of Palossand either

          • The only thing I hate about those sand ghost are the fact that they have shovels in their heads never really liked any pokemon that hold man made objects.

          • I agree about pokemon holding man made objects, but in this case I dislike the name and the pokemon designs, shovel or no shovel.

          • The Lycanthrope reference is cool, but it seems illogical to leave off the “thr” part, esepcailly since rock starts with “r”. Also the Passimian thing is cool, thanks for sharing that with me.

          • Someone else pointed out the ‘prosimian’ to me the other day because I missed it on my first read of the wikipedia article on Lemurs.

            It does sound better, but the reason for leaving it out is (as I mention in my other comment) that ‘antros’ means man, and it’s not in any way human, it’s simply a bipedal wolf.

          • Out of interest, I just dug up my guess for Rockruff’s evolution’s name and my guess was “Lycanoctis”.

            So close 😛

  25. The best moment in a battle on Showdown.

    When you accurately make a prediction that involves a risky play, and they call you out for being a bad player…and then proceed to rage quit

    I always troll these guys until they go off line.

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